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Political betting is being blamed for the Tories losing control of every council tonight

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  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,784
    BBC:

    "It's more than 60 years since a Labour government lost a by-election within a year of winning office in a general election.

    The party lost Leyton in 1965 when Foreign Secretary Patrick Gordon Walker was parachuted into the "safe seat", following the elevation of sitting MP Reginald Sorensen to the Lords.

    The plan backfired when Tory candidate Ronald Buxton won the seat, pipping Gordon Walker by just over 200 votes."
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,348

    Incredible. BBC local guy talking about how winter fuel allowance still comes up on doorstep.

    Has there been a more stupid political decision by a CoE in decades?

    Stupidly messaged decision, certainly.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    Jeez. BBC studio is like robot city.

    Do any the parties have some actual human communicators available???

    Is this how modern politics is?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,224
    Omg Labour held a seat . Get out the bunting !
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The most spectacular result for RefUK would be to win the West of England mayoralty instead of the Greens. Can't see it happening myself.

    They will be rioting in the streets of Bristol if they do.
    Surely there are too many votes within Bristol to prevent Ref from winning that election.
    Not if they're split three ways.
    The Tories aren't very popular in Bristol these days either, so I can't see them being one of the 3 in the 3 way split.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,330
    Britain Elects@BritainElects
    Ockendon (Thurrock) council election result:

    REF: 49.8% (+49.8)
    CON: 21.9% (-33.3)
    LAB: 19.6% (-13.8)
    GRN: 3.8% (+3.8)
    LDEM: 3.0% (+3.0)
    IND: 1.9% (+1.9)

    Reform GAIN from Conservative.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918086513197252851
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,613
    Two more Reform gains from Labour in Northumberland, and one from the Conservatives in Thurrock.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,078
    Helsby

    46.3% turnout down from 58.7 in 24
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,676
    Lots of dockside hooker treatment as TSE would say is going on by the looks of the results.
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,315
    Lab and Con on the board holding Ashington C and Cramlington SE respectively.

    Ref pick up 2 more in Northumberland
  • theoldpoliticstheoldpolitics Posts: 282
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The most spectacular result for RefUK would be to win the West of England mayoralty instead of the Greens. Can't see it happening myself.

    They will be rioting in the streets of Bristol if they do.
    Surely there are too many votes within Bristol to prevent Ref from winning that election.
    Not if they're split three ways.
    The Tories aren't very popular in Bristol these days either, so I can't see them being one of the 3 in the 3 way split.
    Labour, Lib Dem, Green.
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,315
    46% turnout in Runcorn
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,224

    Helsby

    46.3% turnout down from 58.7 in 24

    That’s quite high for a by-election . Must be good news for Reform.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,330
    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    Turnout is apparently 46% in the by-election which is a lot better than the 37% I'd predicted.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,613
    carnforth said:

    BBC:

    "It's more than 60 years since a Labour government lost a by-election within a year of winning office in a general election.

    The party lost Leyton in 1965 when Foreign Secretary Patrick Gordon Walker was parachuted into the "safe seat", following the elevation of sitting MP Reginald Sorensen to the Lords.

    The plan backfired when Tory candidate Ronald Buxton won the seat, pipping Gordon Walker by just over 200 votes."

    I think Peter Bottomley gained Woolwich, in 1975.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    Andy_JS said:

    Turnout is apparently 46% in the by-election which is a lot better than the 37% I'd predicted.

    Beeb making a massive deal of this.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999
    Reform cutting a swathe through Northumberland. As predicted by me and @Gallowgate.
    Three out of the first five. One each for Lab and Tories.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,244
    edited May 1
    Currently Reform have 3 county councillors, the Tories 1 and Labour and the LDs and Greens 0.

    Only county council results fully coming in overnight though from Northumberland which won't be finished until 7am according to the newspaper estimates
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,801

    Lab and Con on the board holding Ashington C and Cramlington SE respectively.

    Ref pick up 2 more in Northumberland

    Must be the new rail station for Ashington :lol:
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999
    HYUFD said:

    Currently Reform have 3 county councillors, the Tories 1 and Labour and the LDs and Greens 0.

    Only county council results coming in overnight though from Northumberland which won't be finished until 7am according to the newspaper estimates

    Labour has one.
    Northumberland is technically a Unitary.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,801

    Jeez. BBC studio is like robot city.

    Do any the parties have some actual human communicators available???

    Is this how modern politics is?

    JRM and Tom Harwood on GB News a bit more lively :lol:
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,208
    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,676
    edited May 1
    Campaigners have questioned Health Secretary Wes Streeting's commitment to maternity safety after his department watered down funding levels.

    Almost £100m was invested into improving maternity safety annually following the publication of an interim report into poor care at the Shrewsbury and Telford NHS trust. But changes by the Department of Health mean that just £2m of the funding is guaranteed to be spent on maternity care this year.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwynqx77dn5o

    This seems like the changes for counselling for adopted kids, tiny amounts of money in the grand scheme of things, but things that the public highly value.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,078
    edited May 1
    Farage is going to be all over the media this weekend celebrating his success and a salutary lesson to those who predicted Reform were finished

    Amazing really in view of his connection with Trump and and is a huge thumbs down to Starmer, Reeves and labour
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,224

    Farage is going to be all over the media this weekend celebrating his success and a salutary lesson to those who predicted Reform were finished

    Amazing really in view of his connection with Trump and and is a huge thumbs down to Starmer, Reeves and labour

    The media don’t seem to have nailed him on his Trump and Putin fawning .
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671

    Farage is going to be all over the media this weekend celebrating his success and a salutary lesson to those who predicted Reform were finished

    Amazing really in view of his connection with Trump and and is a huge thumbs down to Starmer, Reeves and labour

    I may need sick bucket.

    :unamused:
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    edited May 1

    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
    Didn't it use to be a Labour area a few decades ago? I don't know this part of the country very well.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999
    dixiedean said:

    Reform cutting a swathe through Northumberland. As predicted by me and @Gallowgate.
    Three out of the first five. One each for Lab and Tories.

    All in the Reform friendly urban SE, mind.
    Labour held on by six votes in Ashington Central.
    That is without a Green who came second with 27% last time.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,244

    Farage is going to be all over the media this weekend celebrating his success and a salutary lesson to those who predicted Reform were finished

    Amazing really in view of his connection with Trump and and is a huge thumbs down to Starmer, Reeves and labour

    Who predicted Reform were finished? They are clearly picking up most of the protest vote at the moment
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,676

    Farage is going to be all over the media this weekend celebrating his success and a salutary lesson to those who predicted Reform were finished

    Amazing really in view of his connection with Trump and and is a huge thumbs down to Starmer, Reeves and labour

    I may need sick bucket.

    :unamused:
    GB News will definitely be one to give a miss....
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543

    Farage is going to be all over the media this weekend celebrating his success and a salutary lesson to those who predicted Reform were finished

    Amazing really in view of his connection with Trump and and is a huge thumbs down to Starmer, Reeves and labour

    Reform voters don't particularly have a problem with Trump IIRC from the polling.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,078
    edited May 1
    Conservative concede Reform are significantly ahead in Lincolnshire mayoral vote

    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918089260214763565?t=AGbsPMRQzYZ0FTXpxMQbWw&s=19
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,244
    Herne Hill and Loughborough Junction (Lambeth) council election result:

    GRN: 48.3% (+9.9)
    LAB: 39.7% (-11.0)
    CON: 5.0% (-0.3)
    REF: 3.7% (+3.7)
    LDEM: 3.3% (-2.2)

    Green GAIN from Labour.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918084674775117909
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,676
    Jolani’s forces are advancing toward Suweida Governorate, a Druze-controlled region.
    https://x.com/Osint613/status/1918007228277104684

    ISIS in blazers at it again.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    Go Liberal lass:

    Telling reform twat that getting rid of a few diversity officers will not save local government.

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
    Didn't it use to be a Labour area a few decades ago? I don't know this part of the country very well.
    Cramlington was a mining village. It was Labour but had a population of around 3k. That's Cramlington Village.
    The other 27 000 is owner occupied new build new town commuter sprawl.
    Very soulless. Most interesting place is the hospital. The only reason anyone goes.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,208
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
    Didn't it use to be a Labour area a few decades ago? I don't know this part of the country very well.
    Cramlington is a new town made up almost entirely of suburbia new build estates built within the last 30 years. Traditionally Labour yes but Tories done very well in recent years.

    It was actually Cramlington North I was thinking of. The Tory candidate got 90% in 2017.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    "Two Green Party agents, watching ballots come in from the Lib Dem stronghold of Bath & North East Somerset, said: “There is a lot of Green and Labour and Reform are consistently surprising us in every ward, there was one box where Reform won it and we didn’t expect them to win any here. The Lib Dems don’t seem to be anywhere in the picture, coming fourth or fifth in the boxes we’re seeing, and the Conservative vote has collapsed.”

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/local-elections-results-2025-latest-news-live-837xp9bf9
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    nico67 said:

    Farage is going to be all over the media this weekend celebrating his success and a salutary lesson to those who predicted Reform were finished

    Amazing really in view of his connection with Trump and and is a huge thumbs down to Starmer, Reeves and labour

    The media don’t seem to have nailed him on his Trump and Putin fawning .
    Early days.

    Trump has barely begun his fuck up for the US and world economy.
  • DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 1,322
    Sean_F said:

    carnforth said:

    BBC:

    "It's more than 60 years since a Labour government lost a by-election within a year of winning office in a general election.

    The party lost Leyton in 1965 when Foreign Secretary Patrick Gordon Walker was parachuted into the "safe seat", following the elevation of sitting MP Reginald Sorensen to the Lords.

    The plan backfired when Tory candidate Ronald Buxton won the seat, pipping Gordon Walker by just over 200 votes."

    I think Peter Bottomley gained Woolwich, in 1975.
    Yes, and there was two such losses within a year of the 1966 election. Gwynfor Evans gained Carmarthen in July 1966 and then Esmond Wright gained Glasgow Pollok in March 1967.

  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,208
    dixiedean said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
    Didn't it use to be a Labour area a few decades ago? I don't know this part of the country very well.
    Cramlington was a mining village. It was Labour but had a population of around 3k. That's Cramlington Village.
    The other 27 000 is owner occupied new build new town commuter sprawl.
    Very soulless. Most interesting place is the hospital. The only reason anyone goes.
    There’s a nice Indian restaurant in the Sainsburys car park
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,676

    dixiedean said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
    Didn't it use to be a Labour area a few decades ago? I don't know this part of the country very well.
    Cramlington was a mining village. It was Labour but had a population of around 3k. That's Cramlington Village.
    The other 27 000 is owner occupied new build new town commuter sprawl.
    Very soulless. Most interesting place is the hospital. The only reason anyone goes.
    There’s a nice Indian restaurant in the Sainsburys car park
    Is the most British thing ever...
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,315

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
    Didn't it use to be a Labour area a few decades ago? I don't know this part of the country very well.
    Cramlington is a new town made up almost entirely of suburbia new build estates built within the last 30 years. Traditionally Labour yes but Tories done very well in recent years.

    It was actually Cramlington North I was thinking of. The Tory candidate got 90% in 2017.

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
    Didn't it use to be a Labour area a few decades ago? I don't know this part of the country very well.
    Cramlington is a new town made up almost entirely of suburbia new build estates built within the last 30 years. Traditionally Labour yes but Tories done very well in recent years.

    It was actually Cramlington North I was thinking of. The Tory candidate got 90% in 2017.
    They’ve held North too
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,078
    Just imagine if all the elections had taken place !!!!
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,224
    We need Reform to win some councils .

    Instead of carping from the sidelines they can put their cost cutting plans into action and then can be judged accordingly.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999

    Go Liberal lass:

    Telling reform twat that getting rid of a few diversity officers will not save local government.

    As we are about to discover...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    Renyolds: local councils are under huge pressures, just for statutory work. It is all so hard but...

    Well - you are in government, fucking do something.

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    32,740 votes cast in Runcorn & Helsby. Don't know if this includes spoilt papers or not.

    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918088538727305699
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999

    dixiedean said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    fitalass said:

    Britain Elects@BritainElects·2m
    Cramlington South East (Northumberland) council election result:

    CON: 53.8%
    LAB: 23.3%
    REF: 18.8%
    GRN: 4.1%

    Conservative HOLD.
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918087604781674590

    I'd guess this is a personal vote for a popular councillor.
    I am pretty sure that (or a neighbouring ward) was the most Tory ward in the country at one point. Something like 90%+ owner occupier.
    Didn't it use to be a Labour area a few decades ago? I don't know this part of the country very well.
    Cramlington was a mining village. It was Labour but had a population of around 3k. That's Cramlington Village.
    The other 27 000 is owner occupied new build new town commuter sprawl.
    Very soulless. Most interesting place is the hospital. The only reason anyone goes.
    There’s a nice Indian restaurant in the Sainsburys car park
    Is the most British thing ever...
    Needs late night dogging for the trifecta.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,784
    Off topic: blood plasma is 2% of all US exports by value; 38% of all plasma used in europe is imported, mostly from the US. Astonishing.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs
    🚨NEW: Ockendon (Thurrock) Council Election Result:

    REF: 49.8% (+49.8)
    CON: 21.9% (-33.3)
    LAB: 19.6% (-13.8)
    GRN: 3.8% (+3.8)
    LDEM: 3.0% (+3.0)
    IND: 1.9% (+1.9)

    Reform GAIN from Conservative.
    Changes w/ 2024."

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/1918086897428996453
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,224

    Just imagine if all the elections had taken place !!!!

    It would be even worse for the Tories with Reform gains in East Anglia and more Lib Dem gains further south .
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    carnforth said:

    Off topic: blood plasma is 2% of all US exports by value; 38% of all plasma used in europe is imported, mostly from the US. Astonishing.

    Trump likes exports.

  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,330

    Incredible. BBC local guy talking about how winter fuel allowance still comes up on doorstep.

    Has there been a more stupid political decision by a CoE in decades?

    Not since a Labour CoE ditched the 10p tax rate...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    BBC: Labour think it might be a bit closer in Runcorn.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999
    Ex Blyth Valley MP Ian Levy defended Newsham ward in Blyth for the Cons.
    Came third of three.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,224
    Andy_JS said:

    BBC: Labour think it might be a bit closer in Runcorn.

    Have they been drinking ? A high turnout must surely favour Reform unless there’s been some sudden stop Reform tactical voting .
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,330
    nico67 said:

    We need Reform to win some councils .

    Instead of carping from the sidelines they can put their cost cutting plans into action and then can be judged accordingly.

    I second that. It will also be interesting to see how many future local by-elections are caused by some of the newly elected Reform councillors tonight.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    nico67 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    BBC: Labour think it might be a bit closer in Runcorn.

    Have they been drinking ? A high turnout must surely favour Reform unless there’s been some sudden stop Reform tactical voting .
    It's in the vicinity of Merseyside and Labour always does better than expected anywhere near there in the circumstances.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,360
    I think a few pb tories will be going on the proverbial "journey" over the next year or two.

    "Yeah mate, I mean if you really listen to what Nigel is saying then it makes a lot of sense."
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    First result from Leicestershire.

    "@BritainElects

    Glen Parva (Blaby) council election result:

    REF: 43.2% (+43.2)
    LDEM: 34.8% (-20.9)
    CON: 11.0% (-11.8)
    LAB: 5.8% (+5.8)
    GRN: 5.3% (+5.3)

    Reform GAIN from Liberal Democrat."

    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918095861722005692
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,078
    Dura_Ace said:

    I think a few pb tories will be going on the proverbial "journey" over the next year or two.

    "Yeah mate, I mean if you really listen to what Nigel is saying then it makes a lot of sense."

    Looks like lots of Labour voters are already doing that
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,613
    Northumberland is now 9 Reform, 3Con, 1Lab.
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 860
    edited 12:17AM
    nico67 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    BBC: Labour think it might be a bit closer in Runcorn.

    Have they been drinking ? A high turnout must surely favour Reform unless there’s been some sudden stop Reform tactical voting .
    "closer" is still losing lol.

    *removed drunken paragraph that made no sense and sounded very weird*
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,784
    Andy_JS said:

    First result from Leicestershire.

    "@BritainElects

    Glen Parva (Blaby) council election result:

    REF: 43.2% (+43.2)
    LDEM: 34.8% (-20.9)
    CON: 11.0% (-11.8)
    LAB: 5.8% (+5.8)
    GRN: 5.3% (+5.3)

    Reform GAIN from Liberal Democrat."

    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918095861722005692

    Looks like this was a by-election?

    https://www.blaby.gov.uk/elections-and-voting/elections/district-and-parish-by-elections-on-1-may-2025/
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    carnforth said:

    Andy_JS said:

    First result from Leicestershire.

    "@BritainElects

    Glen Parva (Blaby) council election result:

    REF: 43.2% (+43.2)
    LDEM: 34.8% (-20.9)
    CON: 11.0% (-11.8)
    LAB: 5.8% (+5.8)
    GRN: 5.3% (+5.3)

    Reform GAIN from Liberal Democrat."

    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918095861722005692

    Looks like this was a by-election?

    https://www.blaby.gov.uk/elections-and-voting/elections/district-and-parish-by-elections-on-1-may-2025/
    Thanks for flagging this up.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,784
    "Or you are either a citizen of:

    Denmark, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal and Spain who is resident in the UK, has permission to enter or stay in the UK, Channel Islands or Isle of Man, or who does not need permission

    Any other EU country who on or before 31 December 2020 was legally resident in the UK, had permission to enter or stay in the UK, Channel Islands or Isle of Man, or who did not need permission, and this has continued without a break"

    Didn't know we'd done some per-country deals on voting rights for post-brexit new immigrants.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,126
    edited 12:19AM
    nico67 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    BBC: Labour think it might be a bit closer in Runcorn.

    Have they been drinking ? A high turnout must surely favour Reform unless there’s been some sudden stop Reform tactical voting .
    The closer turnout is to what gave them the huge result last time, less of last years Labour voters have sat on their hands.

    Although results presented implying switchers by showing swings, stay at home previous and future supporters are there in numbers across all these results. Particularly Conservatives.
  • vinovino Posts: 181
    carnforth said:

    Andy_JS said:

    First result from Leicestershire.

    "@BritainElects

    Glen Parva (Blaby) council election result:

    REF: 43.2% (+43.2)
    LDEM: 34.8% (-20.9)
    CON: 11.0% (-11.8)
    LAB: 5.8% (+5.8)
    GRN: 5.3% (+5.3)

    Reform GAIN from Liberal Democrat."

    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1918095861722005692

    Looks like this was a by-election?

    https://www.blaby.gov.uk/elections-and-voting/elections/district-and-parish-by-elections-on-1-may-2025/
    That result must have upset a few PB posters
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999
    Sean_F said:

    Northumberland is now 9 Reform, 3Con, 1Lab.

    Will be largest Party I reckon.
    The 4th different largest Party since unitary status in 2009.
    Another reason I'm glad I'm no longer employed by them tbh.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,999

    nico67 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    BBC: Labour think it might be a bit closer in Runcorn.

    Have they been drinking ? A high turnout must surely favour Reform unless there’s been some sudden stop Reform tactical voting .
    "closer" is still losing lol.

    *removed drunken paragraph that made no sense and sounded very weird*
    You'll never write for the President with that attitude.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    dixiedean said:

    Ex Blyth Valley MP Ian Levy defended Newsham ward in Blyth for the Cons.
    Came third of three.

    Could have been worse.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    Posher parts of Runcorn turned out far more (50%+) says BBC reporter.

    DYOR
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,224
    Interesting the BBC saying turnout is lower in Runcorn than more affluent areas where it’s over 50%.
  • Nunu3Nunu3 Posts: 278
    nico67 said:

    Interesting the BBC saying turnout is lower in Runcorn than more affluent areas where it’s over 50%.

    that always happens. Reform are winning in the rural parts of the North as well.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,330

    Farage is going to be all over the media this weekend celebrating his success and a salutary lesson to those who predicted Reform were finished

    Amazing really in view of his connection with Trump and and is a huge thumbs down to Starmer, Reeves and labour

    To be honest, Reform really would have been finished if they had not mopped up in these local elections less than a year after the Conservatives suffered a brutal GE defeat after 14 years in power and after this new Labour Government had about the worst first year with no honeymoon because of their disasterous budget after spinning the state of UK economy into the ground. No new protest party worth their salt would have wasted this opportunity to run a campaign based on 'a plague o' both your houses' after the perfect storm of the last year.

    Dan Jarvis was tonight disingenuously trying to claim that the big losers tonight were the Conservatives and not the new incoming Labour Government because they should have been winning seats not Reform. He obviously was not around in the early years of the last Blair Government following the last huge Conservative defeat in 1997. The Conservatives continued to do badly in local elections and Westminster by-elections in the early Blair years, but back then it was usually the Libdems as the third party who would pick up the protest vote.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,410

    Posher parts of Runcorn turned out far more (50%+) says BBC reporter.

    DYOR

    Hmmm. I may lose my bet as posh people vote Labour to keep house prices up. We will see in a bit.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    How's Laura Kuenssberg doing on BBC? I've mainly been watching Sky News.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    nico67 said:

    Interesting the BBC saying turnout is lower in Runcorn than more affluent areas where it’s over 50%.

    It would be unusual if this wasn't the case. Posh areas nearly always have higher turnouts.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,676
    Another candidate has arrived here at the Runcorn and Helsby count - and a party leader at that.

    It’s Howling Laud Hope of the Monster Raving Loony Party.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543

    Another candidate has arrived here at the Runcorn and Helsby count - and a party leader at that.

    It’s Howling Laud Hope of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

    IIRC he was once elected to a town council in somewhere like Tiverton.
  • vinovino Posts: 181
    nico67 said:

    Interesting the BBC saying turnout is lower in Runcorn than more affluent areas where it’s over 50%.

    clutching at straws
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,671
    Andy_JS said:

    How's Laura Kuenssberg doing on BBC? I've mainly been watching Sky News.

    shite
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,955
    https://x.com/britainelects/status/1918102766553117133

    Curborough (Lichfield) council election result:

    REF: 38.5% (+38.5)
    CON: 23.2% (-12.1)
    LAB: 21.9% (-42.7)
    GRN: 9.3% (+9.3)
    LDEM: 7.1% (+7.1)

    Reform GAIN from Labour.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,676
    Andy_JS said:

    Another candidate has arrived here at the Runcorn and Helsby count - and a party leader at that.

    It’s Howling Laud Hope of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

    IIRC he was once elected to a town council in somewhere like Tiverton.
    Bloody hell he is 82 and still doing this lark.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    Lucky escape for Labour in Redbridge / Hainault where they win by one vote over an independent.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543

    Andy_JS said:

    Another candidate has arrived here at the Runcorn and Helsby count - and a party leader at that.

    It’s Howling Laud Hope of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

    IIRC he was once elected to a town council in somewhere like Tiverton.
    Bloody hell he is 82 and still doing this lark.
    He's only 18 months younger than Lord Sutch who started standing as a Loony in the 1960s I think.
  • IcarusIcarus Posts: 1,006
    I thought the Americans were mad to vote for Trump - now we are just as mad. Leicestershire looking to go Reform.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,676
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Another candidate has arrived here at the Runcorn and Helsby count - and a party leader at that.

    It’s Howling Laud Hope of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

    IIRC he was once elected to a town council in somewhere like Tiverton.
    Bloody hell he is 82 and still doing this lark.
    He's only 18 months younger than Lord Sutch who started standing as a Loony in the 1960s I think.
    Isn't he dead though?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543
    Icarus said:

    I thought the Americans were mad to vote for Trump - now we are just as mad. Leicestershire looking to go Reform.

    When people are annoyed they vote for people like Trump and Farage. I don't find that difficult to understand.
  • vinovino Posts: 181
    Andy_JS said:

    Icarus said:

    I thought the Americans were mad to vote for Trump - now we are just as mad. Leicestershire looking to go Reform.

    When people are annoyed they vote for people like Trump and Farage. I don't find that difficult to understand.
    Other people do - they don't ask "why are they voting Reform"
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Another candidate has arrived here at the Runcorn and Helsby count - and a party leader at that.

    It’s Howling Laud Hope of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

    IIRC he was once elected to a town council in somewhere like Tiverton.
    Bloody hell he is 82 and still doing this lark.
    He's only 18 months younger than Lord Sutch who started standing as a Loony in the 1960s I think.
    Isn't he dead though?
    Yes, but that doesn't detract from Howling's longevity.
  • vinovino Posts: 181
    Being welsh

    Pyle, Kenfig Hill and Cefn Cribwr is a Reform gain

    Ref 697
    Lab 667
    Ind 351
    PC 154
    Con 55
    Green 54

    Pyle, Kenfig Hill and Cefn Cribwr Kenfig Hill is a village in Bridgend County Borough, South Wales.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,801
    Andy_JS said:

    Lucky escape for Labour in Redbridge / Hainault where they win by one vote over an independent.

    Slipped under the radar, had no idea there was a by-election in da North Ilford Ghetto :lol:
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,543

    Andy_JS said:

    Lucky escape for Labour in Redbridge / Hainault where they win by one vote over an independent.

    Slipped under the radar, had no idea there was a by-election in da North Ilford Ghetto :lol:
    I wonder if this was the same indy who nearly defeated Wes Streeting at the general election?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,801
    Just like Hainault in Redbridge!
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