Why would you spend a fortune to attend college in the US, with the risk if random deportation ?
Over 650 (and rising) known cases so far. Most have nothing to do with advocacy. The admin seems to be engaged in a breakneck effort to kick out every foreign student who has had even the most minor interaction with the police possible, including for TRAFFIC CITATIONS and JAYWALKING tickets https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1910684238283747623
Reported numbers still rising.
one of the most awful examples is a woman who was arrested for breaking the nose of a guy who was trying to rape her. the cops said she was obviously the victim, she was never charged, but because she has the arrest on her record she’s being deported https://x.com/ArmandDoma/status/1910746878167441695
IMV this bodes very poorly for American democracy. Trump, his regime (*) and their supporters think that they are the 'good' guys, and their opponents (who are not just Dems, but anyone not fully on board the Trump Train) are not just bad, but evil.
This means, in what passes for their brains, that the Dems will perform *worse* actions than these. And since none of them want to get sent to awful jails abroad without any trial, it is imperative that they never lose power.
So maintaining power and control over the US government becomes not just a financial grift, but a matter of survival. It's unlikely the Dems will ever do that sort of rubbish, but it's what the MAGA cultists will believe.
(*) I think it's okay to refer to this American government as a 'regime'.
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
How stupid is Trump and his advisors?
You don’t insult China and think they will come back - they will accept any pain inflicted and plan retaliation (the tariff rates aren’t Trump’s issue here, remember who owns Government bonds).
What is Ukraine getting from. This deal. Given that it’s less than zero why would they accept when the EU is willing to continue to support them.
The irony here is that Trump has screwed up the price of oil - so one of the few things propping up the Russian economy (selling oil cheap to customers willing to sup with the devil) is no currently not possible
Trump has also, as so often, screwed himself by overreach.
Isn't his alleged approach to start from something hysterical and moderate back to what he actually wants, rather then even madder than before?
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
How stupid is Trump and his advisors?
You don’t insult China and think they will come back - they will accept any pain inflicted and plan retaliation (the tariff rates aren’t Trump’s issue here, remember who owns Government bonds).
What is Ukraine getting from. This deal. Given that it’s less than zero why would they accept when the EU is willing to continue to support them.
The irony here is that Trump has screwed up the price of oil - so one of the few things propping up the Russian economy (selling oil cheap to customers willing to sup with the devil) is no currently not possible
Trump has also, as so often, screwed himself by overreach.
Isn't his alleged approach to start from something hysterical and moderate back to what he actually wants, rather then even madder than before?
He's the USS Tang with her last torpedo.
His method may work with people who need to work with him but it also risks just annoying people to the extend they tell him to f*** off immediately
I really don’t think Trump has a clue what he’s got into.
He is completely surrounded by people who will only tell him what a great job he is doing
They are sleepwalking to disaster, which is a shame, but also exactly what they deserve
If you don't tell Trump what a good job he is doing - you don't have a job the following day as multiple people have discovered over the past 2 months.
But the idea that you can attack China and China won't retaliate is the stupidest thing I've seen in a very long time..
"We're the piggy bank" and "I'm the chosen one" for taking on China (Trump 2019):
Rereading that the US is the piggy bank but what happens when the US keeps trying to borrow from the piggy bank while China stops adding money to it in return for IOUs.
That’s a great unknown which I think we are slowly finding out
I despise Gove but if we are to have a House of Lords which includes ex-politicians he clearly meets the criteria for it. He was a significant figure in government for 13 years and for good or ill (principally ill, it has to be said) made major changes that will probably reverberate through politics for decades.
That is one very good argument for getting rid of the Lords, but until that happens I can't see how anyone can say he shouldn't be considered for a peerage.
Gove was and is a very powerful journalist. His peccadillos are well known but not generally reported. He "has" plenty on other journalists and former political colleagues. He is also "close" to his proprietor, Murdoch. "Thanks for the peerage, Rishi, it came out of the blue". This is not the way our Parliamentarians should get their jobs.
Yet we point the finger at how American government works.
I despise Gove but if we are to have a House of Lords which includes ex-politicians he clearly meets the criteria for it. He was a significant figure in government for 13 years and for good or ill (principally ill, it has to be said) made major changes that will probably reverberate through politics for decades.
That is one very good argument for getting rid of the Lords, but until that happens I can't see how anyone can say he shouldn't be considered for a peerage.
Gove was and is a very powerful journalist. His peccadillos are well known but not generally reported. He "has" plenty on other journalists and former political colleagues. He is also "close" to his proprietor, Murdoch. "Thanks for the peerage, Rishi, it came out of the blue". This is not the way our Parliamentarians should get their jobs.
Yet we point the finger at how American government works.
Get rid of the Lords. We don't need it.
We need something to refine the half baked laws that often end up being voted through in the House of Commons.
What that is I don’t know but we need something that can spend time sanity checking the detail before it becomes law.
I despise Gove but if we are to have a House of Lords which includes ex-politicians he clearly meets the criteria for it. He was a significant figure in government for 13 years and for good or ill (principally ill, it has to be said) made major changes that will probably reverberate through politics for decades.
That is one very good argument for getting rid of the Lords, but until that happens I can't see how anyone can say he shouldn't be considered for a peerage.
Gove was and is a very powerful journalist. His peccadillos are well known but not generally reported. He "has" plenty on other journalists and former political colleagues. He is also "close" to his proprietor, Murdoch. "Thanks for the peerage, Rishi, it came out of the blue". This is not the way our Parliamentarians should get their jobs.
Yet we point the finger at how American government works.
Get rid of the Lords. We don't need it.
I utterly disagree. The Lords fulfil a useful role, and the idea that the government gets all its legislation right, 100% of the time, is an odd one.
That doesn't mean we don't reform the way the reforming chamber works; but getting rid of it altogether would be dangerous.
I despise Gove but if we are to have a House of Lords which includes ex-politicians he clearly meets the criteria for it. He was a significant figure in government for 13 years and for good or ill (principally ill, it has to be said) made major changes that will probably reverberate through politics for decades.
That is one very good argument for getting rid of the Lords, but until that happens I can't see how anyone can say he shouldn't be considered for a peerage.
Gove was and is a very powerful journalist. His peccadillos are well known but not generally reported. He "has" plenty on other journalists and former political colleagues. He is also "close" to his proprietor, Murdoch. "Thanks for the peerage, Rishi, it came out of the blue". This is not the way our Parliamentarians should get their jobs.
Yet we point the finger at how American government works.
Get rid of the Lords. We don't need it.
We need something to refine the half baked laws that often end up being voted through in the House of Commons.
What that is I don’t know but we need something that can spend time sanity checking the detail before it becomes law.
A elected Senate with 1910 House of Lords powers, which is what Australia has
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
And, when the Ukrainians tell him to do one, what leverage does Trump have?
Interesting detail on the Supreme Court El Salvador ruling, which froze the order for Trump to bring back the man he had deported with no evidence and no due process, in violation of a Court Order.
The Court split Five Men (supported that the man should be left in the El Salvador prison whilst they thought about it) vs Four Women.
That's interesting because there are usually one or two women in the Maga wing of the Court; one totally down the rabbit hole, one sometimes.
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
And, when the Ukrainians tell him to do one, what leverage does Trump have?
He’s a paper tiger.
Intelligence sharing, the lack of which earlier really seemed to help Russia in Kursk.
American support has declined substantially but it does still exist, emphasising the importance of self-reliance and a diverse array of allies. I think that's why Starmer's renationalisation of British Steel will enjoy wide support.
Interesting detail on the Supreme Court El Salvador ruling, which froze the order for Trump to bring back the man he had deported with no evidence and no due process, in violation of a Court Order.
The Court split Five Men (supported that the man should be left in the El Salvador prison whilst they thought about it) vs Four Women.
That's interesting because there are usually one or two women in the Maga wing of the Court; one totally down the rabbit hole, one sometimes.
Really? Of the four women serving, two were appointed by Obama and one by Biden. The fourth is Amy Coney Barrett, who was appointed by Trump but has usually shown that she's quite independently minded.
Starmer has to stop being a chicken shit simping for reform voters and instead start working for the people who voted for him: rejoiners. 🤷♂️ it is pretty bloody easy. Trump loathing rejoiners are 2/3 of the electorate. Start doing politics to that reality. 🙄🙄🙄
2/3 of the electorate want to restore the death penalty. I'm not sure that reconciles with your view of where the centre of political gravity is.
Yougov don't agree with your 2/3 figure. It's actually a bit contradictory.
"Britons don’t tend to support the death penalty… until you name the worst crimes
Our survey shows that four in 10 (40%) Britons support the death penalty, with half (50%) opposed and 10% unsure.
...
However, when asked about the death penalty for specific crimes, Britons are more likely than not to support for death penalty for the murder of a child, murders committed as part of a terrorist act and cases of multiple murder. They do not, however, support the death penalty being applied to all cases of murder."
It's the same with immigration in the US:
Should illegal immigrants be deported?
Yes
Should illegal immigrants who have not been convicted of a crime and who file tax returns be deported?
No
I'd be wondering why illegal immigrants are in a position to file tax returns...
Many people file US tax returns, not all of them are even US residents (legal or otherwise).
If not resident, they are presumably US citizens though.
I would assume the illegal immigrants working in the UK are doing so in a way that means the HMRC doesn't know about them.
How can you be an illegal immigrant and work "legally"? The IRS should know who they are and shop them to the relevant authorities
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
More like a Russian sex doll.
Grossly over-inflated, used to allow small ugly men to have sex,* and although you think there's something inside there's really nothing there.
*This is an awesomely complex and subtle commentary on Lavrov and Putin's size, performance and their predilection for fucking everything around them.
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
And, when the Ukrainians tell him to do one, what leverage does Trump have?
He’s a paper tiger.
He could get the CIA to stage a coup and replace Green T-Shirt with somebody who'll do what he's told. A scenario not without precedence.
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
Let’s go back to this from earlier in the week.
No of possibilities with Trump. 1. Hes a russian asset bent on destroying the united states. 2. Its all about the grift hence the constant pumping and crashing of markets to enrich himself. 3. Hes a genuine moron.
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
I’m not yet convinced the UK and EU have the final courage and wherewithal to do what it takes (and what’s within their control) to help Ukraine wean itself off US support.
A economic and trade rapprochement with China that comes with strings on limiting Chinese military support to Russia might have a chance, but would require careful counting of fingers.
My latest comment on a few points on my favourite Trumpist channel.
I'm always interested to see defences of the Trump line.
Perhaps most revealing is Trump's willingness entirely to ignore law when legal processes are available to achieve his objective. That is overreach, and imo will be his downfall. And then he covers his backside with a blizzard of obfuscation and rhetoric.
Who are these allies whom Mr Trump is going to force to choose the USA or China? Trump has tried to mug them all, and they are wary. It's transactional, and since the USA no longer places any weight on treaties or agreements or trust, cooperation is either a) where there is no option or b) where there is guaranteed leverage or c) where the USA gets a major benefit.
Trump's head is stuck in about 1950, and the USA is not predominant as he thinks. His USA vs China framing does not reflect reality, and will be rejected. I expect the developed democracies (which no longer include the USA) to move over time to a newer structure, and the world will have more poles than USA vs China. The USA will be cooperated with, but has proven that it cannot be trusted.
On tariffs, China is likely to do nothing - the USA cannot make them take action. All they need to do is sit on their hands and wait for goods in the USA to double in price, or simply to allow their exports to be stopped as being unlikely to sell.
In Trump vs China, Trump holds a pair of 2s and a pair of 3s, which he has overplayed, whilst China has the strong hand. When iPhones are $2200 or run out, he will make a snuffling noise, and crawl back under his stone. Trump has no leverage.
The problem here is that his dream of "Made in the USA" is so less cost-efficient that sales will collapse.
Overall it still seems to me to be an incredible exhibition of a country burning itself down. I remain flabbergasted.
All the best until next week, and we'll see what happens at the circus.
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
And, when the Ukrainians tell him to do one, what leverage does Trump have?
He’s a paper tiger.
He could get the CIA to stage a coup and replace Green T-Shirt with somebody who'll do what he's told. A scenario not without precedence.
Dura deciding to be our Saturday morning visitor this week. Cut out the middleman.
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
And, when the Ukrainians tell him to do one, what leverage does Trump have?
He’s a paper tiger.
He could get the CIA to stage a coup and replace Green T-Shirt with somebody who'll do what he's told. A scenario not without precedence.
The Russians have been trying to do that since day one. Not gone well for them.
If Trump tries this then the break between the Democracies and America will be swift and final.
My latest comment on a few points on my favourite Trumpist channel.
I'm always interested to see defences of the Trump line.
Perhaps most revealing is Trump's willingness entirely to ignore law when legal processes are available to achieve his objective. That is overreach, and imo will be his downfall. And then he covers his backside with a blizzard of obfuscation and rhetoric.
Who are these allies whom Mr Trump is going to force to choose the USA or China? Trump has tried to mug them all, and they are wary. It's transactional, and since the USA no longer places any weight on treaties or agreements or trust, cooperation is either a) where there is no option or b) where there is guaranteed leverage or c) where the USA gets a major benefit.
Trump's head is stuck in about 1950, and the USA is not predominant as he thinks. His USA vs China framing does not reflect reality, and will be rejected. I expect the developed democracies (which no longer include the USA) to move over time to a newer structure, and the world will have more poles than USA vs China. The USA will be cooperated with, but has proven that it cannot be trusted. .
The irony there is that you can’t even trust Trump on a transactional basis - he will accept what you offer and then wriggle out of his side of the deal anyway he can.
It’s why I think most countries if pushed to choice between the USA and China in the forthcoming trade war are likely to land on China’s side of the battle
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
I’m not yet convinced the UK and EU have the final courage and wherewithal to do what it takes (and what’s within their control) to help Ukraine wean itself off US support.
A economic and trade rapprochement with China that comes with strings on limiting Chinese military support to Russia might have a chance, but would require careful counting of fingers.
There are slightly odd reports emerging of Chinese being captured by the Ukranians these last few weeks.
Starmer has to stop being a chicken shit simping for reform voters and instead start working for the people who voted for him: rejoiners. 🤷♂️ it is pretty bloody easy. Trump loathing rejoiners are 2/3 of the electorate. Start doing politics to that reality. 🙄🙄🙄
2/3 of the electorate want to restore the death penalty. I'm not sure that reconciles with your view of where the centre of political gravity is.
Yougov don't agree with your 2/3 figure. It's actually a bit contradictory.
"Britons don’t tend to support the death penalty… until you name the worst crimes
Our survey shows that four in 10 (40%) Britons support the death penalty, with half (50%) opposed and 10% unsure.
...
However, when asked about the death penalty for specific crimes, Britons are more likely than not to support for death penalty for the murder of a child, murders committed as part of a terrorist act and cases of multiple murder. They do not, however, support the death penalty being applied to all cases of murder."
It's the same with immigration in the US:
Should illegal immigrants be deported?
Yes
Should illegal immigrants who have not been convicted of a crime and who file tax returns be deported?
No
I'd be wondering why illegal immigrants are in a position to file tax returns...
Many people file US tax returns, not all of them are even US residents (legal or otherwise).
If not resident, they are presumably US citizens though.
I would assume the illegal immigrants working in the UK are doing so in a way that means the HMRC doesn't know about them.
How can you be an illegal immigrant and work "legally"? The IRS should know who they are and shop them to the relevant authorities
There are an awful lot of situations in the US and UK where ID is provided for illegal immigrants for a fee.
Imagine a deliveroo “driver” who lends his account to someone else and passes 80% of the money to the person who does the work.
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
I’m not yet convinced the UK and EU have the final courage and wherewithal to do what it takes (and what’s within their control) to help Ukraine wean itself off US support.
A economic and trade rapprochement with China that comes with strings on limiting Chinese military support to Russia might have a chance, but would require careful counting of fingers.
There are slightly odd reports emerging of Chinese being captured by the Ukranians these last few weeks.
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
I’m not yet convinced the UK and EU have the final courage and wherewithal to do what it takes (and what’s within their control) to help Ukraine wean itself off US support.
A economic and trade rapprochement with China that comes with strings on limiting Chinese military support to Russia might have a chance, but would require careful counting of fingers.
There are slightly odd reports emerging of Chinese being captured by the Ukranians these last few weeks.
China should be diplomatically be asked to withdraw support from Russia as part and parcel of keeping good trade relations with the EU and RoW.
It’s odd simply because all sides have the odd mercenary and I suspect those Chinese soldiers are thee trying to earn a few quid and Ukraine have tried to big it up for obvious “reasons”.
Reality is that as that post says the quid pro quo for the EU siding with China on trade may be some help in some form from China regarding Ukraine. It’s also the sort of easy concession that China may make to strike that trade deal.
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
And, when the Ukrainians tell him to do one, what leverage does Trump have?
He’s a paper tiger.
He could get the CIA to stage a coup and replace Green T-Shirt with somebody who'll do what he's told. A scenario not without precedence.
The Russians have been trying to do that since day one. Not gone well for them.
If Trump tries this then the break between the Democracies and America will be swift and final.
The CIA have staged coups before to replace leaders they dislike, but it hasn't always gone as planned, and does require considerable support from local military or sectors of society. It's hard to see a Pro-Putin or even Pro-Trump candidate getting any degree of support in Ukraine. I am sure that most Ukranians are war weary, but they don't want a puppet regime either.
Just as American Exceptionalism has caused Trump and MAGA to blunder into a weak position over trade, the same exceptionality causes them to over estimate their ability in foreign affairs.
Why would you spend a fortune to attend college in the US, with the risk if random deportation ?
Over 650 (and rising) known cases so far. Most have nothing to do with advocacy. The admin seems to be engaged in a breakneck effort to kick out every foreign student who has had even the most minor interaction with the police possible, including for TRAFFIC CITATIONS and JAYWALKING tickets https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1910684238283747623
Reported numbers still rising.
one of the most awful examples is a woman who was arrested for breaking the nose of a guy who was trying to rape her. the cops said she was obviously the victim, she was never charged, but because she has the arrest on her record she’s being deported https://x.com/ArmandDoma/status/1910746878167441695
IMV this bodes very poorly for American democracy. Trump, his regime (*) and their supporters think that they are the 'good' guys, and their opponents (who are not just Dems, but anyone not fully on board the Trump Train) are not just bad, but evil.
This means, in what passes for their brains, that the Dems will perform *worse* actions than these. And since none of them want to get sent to awful jails abroad without any trial, it is imperative that they never lose power.
So maintaining power and control over the US government becomes not just a financial grift, but a matter of survival. It's unlikely the Dems will ever do that sort of rubbish, but it's what the MAGA cultists will believe.
(*) I think it's okay to refer to this American government as a 'regime'.
Foreign students who are being deported to their home country may turn out to be the lucky ones. If things deteriorate at the present rate, anybody might end up deported to a foreign jail.
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
I’m not yet convinced the UK and EU have the final courage and wherewithal to do what it takes (and what’s within their control) to help Ukraine wean itself off US support.
A economic and trade rapprochement with China that comes with strings on limiting Chinese military support to Russia might have a chance, but would require careful counting of fingers.
There are slightly odd reports emerging of Chinese being captured by the Ukranians these last few weeks.
China should be diplomatically be asked to withdraw support from Russia as part and parcel of keeping good trade relations with the EU and RoW.
Exactly. I expect those Chinese prisoners are mercenaries, the question is how much tacit CCP support they have.
I don't think they could be there without tacit PRC support. Perhaps they were there to gather intelligence on what is working on the battlefield. All militaries must be desperate to understand what works and what doesn't. Certain Western technology seems to have rather flopped.
Trump envoy: We can divide Ukraine like postwar Berlin
General Keith Kellogg suggests UK and France could lead western zone of control in interview with The Times
President Trump’s envoy to Ukraine has said the country could be partitioned “almost like Berlin after World War Two” as part of a peace deal.
General Keith Kellogg, a leading figure in US efforts to end the three-year war, suggested that British and French troops could adopt zones of control in the west of the country as part of a “reassurance force”, with Russia’s army in the occupied east. Between them would be Ukrainian forces and a demilitarised zone.
Kellogg, 80, said the Anglo-French-led force west of the Dnipro river, which bisects Ukraine from north to south and runs through Kyiv, would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow. He said Ukraine was a big enough country to accommodate several armies seeking to enforce a ceasefire.
“You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after World War Two, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he said.
What? We are going to reward the Russian invaders by giving them a sector of Kyiv??? Ukraine is not the agressor here....
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
I’m not yet convinced the UK and EU have the final courage and wherewithal to do what it takes (and what’s within their control) to help Ukraine wean itself off US support.
A economic and trade rapprochement with China that comes with strings on limiting Chinese military support to Russia might have a chance, but would require careful counting of fingers.
There are slightly odd reports emerging of Chinese being captured by the Ukranians these last few weeks.
China should be diplomatically be asked to withdraw support from Russia as part and parcel of keeping good trade relations with the EU and RoW.
Exactly. I expect those Chinese prisoners are mercenaries, the question is how much tacit CCP support they have.
I don't think they could be there without tacit PRC support. Perhaps they were there to gather intelligence on what is working on the battlefield. All militaries must be desperate to understand what works and what doesn't. Certain Western technology seems to have rather flopped.
Except I don’t think there weee in a position that implies tacit support. If they wee they would be officers of some form while they appear to be poorly trained general soldiers
I despise Gove but if we are to have a House of Lords which includes ex-politicians he clearly meets the criteria for it. He was a significant figure in government for 13 years and for good or ill (principally ill, it has to be said) made major changes that will probably reverberate through politics for decades.
That is one very good argument for getting rid of the Lords, but until that happens I can't see how anyone can say he shouldn't be considered for a peerage.
Gove was and is a very powerful journalist. His peccadillos are well known but not generally reported. He "has" plenty on other journalists and former political colleagues. He is also "close" to his proprietor, Murdoch. "Thanks for the peerage, Rishi, it came out of the blue". This is not the way our Parliamentarians should get their jobs.
Yet we point the finger at how American government works.
Get rid of the Lords. We don't need it.
We need something to refine the half baked laws that often end up being voted through in the House of Commons.
What that is I don’t know but we need something that can spend time sanity checking the detail before it becomes law.
I don't think any second chamber should be used as a cop out.
Far better that the Commons stops passing badly drafted laws, and the government stops whipping them through. How can the Commons improve if they do not have to sort out their own mess?
I despise Gove but if we are to have a House of Lords which includes ex-politicians he clearly meets the criteria for it. He was a significant figure in government for 13 years and for good or ill (principally ill, it has to be said) made major changes that will probably reverberate through politics for decades.
That is one very good argument for getting rid of the Lords, but until that happens I can't see how anyone can say he shouldn't be considered for a peerage.
Gove was and is a very powerful journalist. His peccadillos are well known but not generally reported. He "has" plenty on other journalists and former political colleagues. He is also "close" to his proprietor, Murdoch. "Thanks for the peerage, Rishi, it came out of the blue". This is not the way our Parliamentarians should get their jobs.
Yet we point the finger at how American government works.
Get rid of the Lords. We don't need it.
We need something to refine the half baked laws that often end up being voted through in the House of Commons.
What that is I don’t know but we need something that can spend time sanity checking the detail before it becomes law.
I don't think any second chamber should be used as a cop out.
Far better that the Commons stops passing badly drafted laws, and the government stops whipping them through. How can the Commons improve if they do not have to sort out their own mess?
I think that's a very naive and unrealistic view given some of the numpties elected to parliament, especially those who just tow the party line.
Reparations. In return for the US supporting the surrender of territory to Russia.
"Repay" isn't the right word, as that aid wasn't a loan.
New terms of the minerals deal: ▪️Ukraine must repay the US billions in military and financial aid it received after Russia’s major invasion three years ago; ▪️Ukraine must pay half of its profits from natural resource development to a fund controlled by the US; ▪️The US demands that all profits from the fund be taken away until Ukraine returns all aid it received during the war + 4% per annum; ▪️No word on security guarantees for Ukraine... https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1910726498400477425
And, when the Ukrainians tell him to do one, what leverage does Trump have?
He’s a paper tiger.
He could get the CIA to stage a coup and replace Green T-Shirt with somebody who'll do what he's told. A scenario not without precedence.
The Russians have been trying to do that since day one. Not gone well for them.
If Trump tries this then the break between the Democracies and America will be swift and final.
The CIA have staged coups before to replace leaders they dislike, but it hasn't always gone as planned, and does require considerable support from local military or sectors of society. It's hard to see a Pro-Putin or even Pro-Trump candidate getting any degree of support in Ukraine. I am sure that most Ukranians are war weary, but they don't want a puppet regime either.
Just as American Exceptionalism has caused Trump and MAGA to blunder into a weak position over trade, the same exceptionality causes them to over estimate their ability in foreign affairs.
"Twelve men and a woman have been arrested on suspicion of alleged historical child sexual exploitation offences.
West Yorkshire Police said the men, aged between 42 and 59, and a 60-year-old woman were arrested at a series of addresses in Bradford in March and April.
The force said the alleged offences were said to have been committed against a single victim between 2000 and 2005 when she was aged between 13 and 17."
It never ends,.
It never will, all that can be done is to reduce opportunity, increase recognition. reporting and law enforcement. The funding cuts to the latter have drastically reduced the effectiveness of the latter.
I despise Gove but if we are to have a House of Lords which includes ex-politicians he clearly meets the criteria for it. He was a significant figure in government for 13 years and for good or ill (principally ill, it has to be said) made major changes that will probably reverberate through politics for decades.
That is one very good argument for getting rid of the Lords, but until that happens I can't see how anyone can say he shouldn't be considered for a peerage.
Gove was and is a very powerful journalist. His peccadillos are well known but not generally reported. He "has" plenty on other journalists and former political colleagues. He is also "close" to his proprietor, Murdoch. "Thanks for the peerage, Rishi, it came out of the blue". This is not the way our Parliamentarians should get their jobs.
Yet we point the finger at how American government works.
Get rid of the Lords. We don't need it.
We need something to refine the half baked laws that often end up being voted through in the House of Commons.
What that is I don’t know but we need something that can spend time sanity checking the detail before it becomes law.
I don't think any second chamber should be used as a cop out.
Far better that the Commons stops passing badly drafted laws, and the government stops whipping them through. How can the Commons improve if they do not have to sort out their own mess?
I think that's a very naive and unrealistic view given some of the numpties elected to parliament, especially those who just tow the party line.
I think the revising should be done in HoC committee before coming to a final vote.
This provides a useful role for the large numbers of backbenchers on both sides of the house, and could incorporate HoC specialist staff with expertise on Constitutional law and legal drafting to advise the committees.
By and large we have turned backbenchers into glorified social workers and lobbyists for vested interests. Getting them to do their day jobs properly is far more useful
I despise Gove but if we are to have a House of Lords which includes ex-politicians he clearly meets the criteria for it. He was a significant figure in government for 13 years and for good or ill (principally ill, it has to be said) made major changes that will probably reverberate through politics for decades.
That is one very good argument for getting rid of the Lords, but until that happens I can't see how anyone can say he shouldn't be considered for a peerage.
Gove was and is a very powerful journalist. His peccadillos are well known but not generally reported. He "has" plenty on other journalists and former political colleagues. He is also "close" to his proprietor, Murdoch. "Thanks for the peerage, Rishi, it came out of the blue". This is not the way our Parliamentarians should get their jobs.
Yet we point the finger at how American government works.
Get rid of the Lords. We don't need it.
We need something to refine the half baked laws that often end up being voted through in the House of Commons.
What that is I don’t know but we need something that can spend time sanity checking the detail before it becomes law.
I don't think any second chamber should be used as a cop out.
Far better that the Commons stops passing badly drafted laws, and the government stops whipping them through. How can the Commons improve if they do not have to sort out their own mess?
I think that's a very naive and unrealistic view given some of the numpties elected to parliament, especially those who just tow the party line.
I think the revising should be done in HoC committee before coming to a final vote.
This provides a useful role for the large numbers of backbenchers on both sides of the house, and could incorporate HoC specialist staff with expertise on Constitutional law and legal drafting to advise the committees.
By and large we have turned backbenchers into glorified social workers and lobbyists for vested interests. Getting them to do their day jobs properly is far more useful
That will never happen in a system that is heavily whipped. It is naive to think otherwise; party will always come first.
"Twelve men and a woman have been arrested on suspicion of alleged historical child sexual exploitation offences.
West Yorkshire Police said the men, aged between 42 and 59, and a 60-year-old woman were arrested at a series of addresses in Bradford in March and April.
The force said the alleged offences were said to have been committed against a single victim between 2000 and 2005 when she was aged between 13 and 17."
It never ends,.
It never will, all that can be done is to reduce opportunity, increase recognition. reporting and law enforcement. The funding cuts to the latter have drastically reduced the effectiveness of the latter.
That's a poor characterisation. Funding was cut by ~20% 2010-2016 by Osborne and Cameron, but has been increased back in years since then. In the first period the force was pithed of around 15% of officers, many of them the core, experienced cadre I think.
It will take years to recover; however funding in real terms has built since 2018. I think the difference wrt the Starmer Govt is that we can expect them to plan further than the end of their nose, rather than run in headless chicken mode.
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This means, in what passes for their brains, that the Dems will perform *worse* actions than these. And since none of them want to get sent to awful jails abroad without any trial, it is imperative that they never lose power.
So maintaining power and control over the US government becomes not just a financial grift, but a matter of survival. It's unlikely the Dems will ever do that sort of rubbish, but it's what the MAGA cultists will believe.
(*) I think it's okay to refer to this American government as a 'regime'.
Isn't his alleged approach to start from something hysterical and moderate back to what he actually wants, rather then even madder than before?
He's the USS Tang with her last torpedo.
That’s a great unknown which I think we are slowly finding out
Get rid of the Lords. We don't need it.
What that is I don’t know but we need something that can spend time sanity checking the detail before it becomes law.
That doesn't mean we don't reform the way the reforming chamber works; but getting rid of it altogether would be dangerous.
For those wondering, under EHV (Enormo-haddock Voting), the upper chamber will be inhabited by the Lords Piscine.
He’s a paper tiger.
The Court split Five Men (supported that the man should be left in the El Salvador prison whilst they thought about it) vs Four Women.
That's interesting because there are usually one or two women in the Maga wing of the Court; one totally down the rabbit hole, one sometimes.
https://youtu.be/ryxRgQWuUFU?t=1448
American support has declined substantially but it does still exist, emphasising the importance of self-reliance and a diverse array of allies. I think that's why Starmer's renationalisation of British Steel will enjoy wide support.
I would assume the illegal immigrants working in the UK are doing so in a way that means the HMRC doesn't know about them.
How can you be an illegal immigrant and work "legally"? The IRS should know who they are and shop them to the relevant authorities
By all means use British & French (& Turkish) boots on the ground to help stabilise the peace . But there needs to be a dmz on both sides of the eventual ceasefire line. And the latest Russian condition for a ceasefire (handing over the 4 claimed provinces in entirety) should be dismissed with maximum contempt.
Trump is just a Russian puppet.
Grossly over-inflated, used to allow small ugly men to have sex,* and although you think there's something inside there's really nothing there.
*This is an awesomely complex and subtle commentary on Lavrov and Putin's size, performance and their predilection for fucking everything around them.
No of possibilities with Trump.
1. Hes a russian asset bent on destroying the united states.
2. Its all about the grift hence the constant pumping and crashing of markets to enrich himself.
3. Hes a genuine moron.
He’s 3 and 1 with 2 as the reward
A economic and trade rapprochement with China that comes with strings on limiting Chinese military support to Russia might have a chance, but would require careful counting of fingers.
I'm always interested to see defences of the Trump line.
Perhaps most revealing is Trump's willingness entirely to ignore law when legal processes are available to achieve his objective. That is overreach, and imo will be his downfall. And then he covers his backside with a blizzard of obfuscation and rhetoric.
Who are these allies whom Mr Trump is going to force to choose the USA or China? Trump has tried to mug them all, and they are wary. It's transactional, and since the USA no longer places any weight on treaties or agreements or trust, cooperation is either a) where there is no option or b) where there is guaranteed leverage or c) where the USA gets a major benefit.
Trump's head is stuck in about 1950, and the USA is not predominant as he thinks. His USA vs China framing does not reflect reality, and will be rejected. I expect the developed democracies (which no longer include the USA) to move over time to a newer structure, and the world will have more poles than USA vs China. The USA will be cooperated with, but has proven that it cannot be trusted.
On tariffs, China is likely to do nothing - the USA cannot make them take action. All they need to do is sit on their hands and wait for goods in the USA to double in price, or simply to allow their exports to be stopped as being unlikely to sell.
In Trump vs China, Trump holds a pair of 2s and a pair of 3s, which he has overplayed, whilst China has the strong hand. When iPhones are $2200 or run out, he will make a snuffling noise, and crawl back under his stone. Trump has no leverage.
The problem here is that his dream of "Made in the USA" is so less cost-efficient that sales will collapse.
Overall it still seems to me to be an incredible exhibition of a country burning itself down. I remain flabbergasted.
All the best until next week, and we'll see what happens at the circus.
If Trump tries this then the break between the Democracies and America will be swift and final.
It’s why I think most countries if pushed to choice between the USA and China in the forthcoming trade war are likely to land on China’s side of the battle
https://bsky.app/profile/kyivindependent.com/post/3lmcm3knykk2h
China should be diplomatically be asked to withdraw support from Russia as part and parcel of keeping good trade relations with the EU and RoW.
Imagine a deliveroo “driver” who lends his account to someone else and passes 80% of the money to the person who does the work.
Reality is that as that post says the quid pro quo for the EU siding with China on trade may be some help in some form from China regarding Ukraine. It’s also the sort of easy concession that China may make to strike that trade deal.
Just as American Exceptionalism has caused Trump and MAGA to blunder into a weak position over trade, the same exceptionality causes them to over estimate their ability in foreign affairs.
Good morning, everybody.
Far better that the Commons stops passing badly drafted laws, and the government stops whipping them through. How can the Commons improve if they do not have to sort out their own mess?
This provides a useful role for the large numbers of backbenchers on both sides of the house, and could incorporate HoC specialist staff with expertise on Constitutional law and legal drafting to advise the committees.
By and large we have turned backbenchers into glorified social workers and lobbyists for vested interests. Getting them to do their day jobs properly is far more useful
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Where is Tim?
It will take years to recover; however funding in real terms has built since 2018. I think the difference wrt the Starmer Govt is that we can expect them to plan further than the end of their nose, rather than run in headless chicken mode.
Various components of police funding 2015-2025 at 2025 prices.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/police-funding-for-england-and-wales-2015-to-2025/police-funding-for-england-and-wales-2015-to-2025