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  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,920
    edited April 9
    IanB2 said:

    algarkirk said:

    R4 Today; someone is building some sort of funfair in Bedfordshire; which is fine, as long as attendance is not compulsory. This is of such cultural significance that a 'culture' minister comes on to talk about it. A funfair with rides, not the place of Pirandello in European culture or Merovingian reliquaries.

    More to the point, they expect 8 million customers a year and to employ tens of thousands. Which is good too. This expectation does not suggest that capitalism believes we are a nation impoverished, unemployable, bed bound, shoeless, homeless, on the sick, childless or travelling only on foot accompanied by a stick and a spotted handkerchief.

    fun and Bedfordshire in the same sentence?
    Bedfordshire is the birthplace of that witty and hilariously comic fun book 'Pilgrim's Progress'.

    Any amusement park in the county should be called 'Vanity Fair'.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,850

    FF43 said:

    Maybe some method in Trump's tariff madness?

    https://stratechery.com/2025/trade-tariffs-and-tech/

    I got ‘it’ll get worse before it’ll get better, and it might not get better’ from that.

    Trump voters interviewed in Braddock outside Pittsburgh on R4 this am; they mostly seemed to be still on board, though with concerns. I get the impression that inextricably linked to the return to manufacturing hegemony is a desire to get their Norman Rockwell USA back. I fear they’ll be disappointed however it pans out.
    What I'm also getting from this is that these moves put America's tech hegemony at risk along side its military hegemony.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,085

    DavidL said:

    Ratters said:

    Nigelb said:

    So that's what's tanking treasuries.

    Trump's economic chief just revealed plans to TAX foreign holdings of US financial assets. Hidden in plain sight.
    Miran outlined 5 forms of "burden sharing" for countries benefiting from the US dollar reserve system:
    Four of these deal with reducing trade surpluses (more US exports, less US imports, etc.) - essentially reducing their net accumulation of US financial assets.
    But the 5th proposal is the bombshell: Countries "could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods."
    Translation: You can keep holding US Treasuries and dollar financial assets, but you'll now pay a tax for the privilege.
    It's now almost a slam dunk that the administration's upcoming tax bill (likely in May) will include a provision bringing back the 30% foreign withholding tax on interest income that was eliminated in 1984.
    We predicted exactly this move in our ‘Dollar’s Dilemma’ and ‘Sovereign Wealth Effect’ reports published in Dec and Feb...

    https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/1909632751306780765

    The EU had better start issuing a few hundred billion jointly guaranteed short-dated debt.

    Need somewhere for all the central bank reserve money fleeing the US treasury market to go.
    All it takes for American bond yields to rise is for China to stop buying. And I suspect that they have. They have been the buyer of last resort (other than the Fed through quantative easing) for a very long time now. If they start selling all hell will break loose.
    If China sells, the Fed can buy, and nothing will break loose. It will be not unlike quantitative easing. According to the US Treasury, Britain owns more than China.
    https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0037
    Yes, I think China has been getting out of US Treasuries for some time, partly in anticipation of Trump number 2, and partly as protection against sanctions and seizures post the Russo-Ukranian war.
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,385
    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Planning for that park went public under Sunak.

    Given its location Merlin must be very unhappy.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,057
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    Ratters said:

    Nigelb said:

    So that's what's tanking treasuries.

    Trump's economic chief just revealed plans to TAX foreign holdings of US financial assets. Hidden in plain sight.
    Miran outlined 5 forms of "burden sharing" for countries benefiting from the US dollar reserve system:
    Four of these deal with reducing trade surpluses (more US exports, less US imports, etc.) - essentially reducing their net accumulation of US financial assets.
    But the 5th proposal is the bombshell: Countries "could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods."
    Translation: You can keep holding US Treasuries and dollar financial assets, but you'll now pay a tax for the privilege.
    It's now almost a slam dunk that the administration's upcoming tax bill (likely in May) will include a provision bringing back the 30% foreign withholding tax on interest income that was eliminated in 1984.
    We predicted exactly this move in our ‘Dollar’s Dilemma’ and ‘Sovereign Wealth Effect’ reports published in Dec and Feb...

    https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/1909632751306780765

    The EU had better start issuing a few hundred billion jointly guaranteed short-dated debt.

    Need somewhere for all the central bank reserve money fleeing the US treasury market to go.
    All it takes for American bond yields to rise is for China to stop buying. And I suspect that they have. They have been the buyer of last resort (other than the Fed through quantative easing) for a very long time now. If they start selling all hell will break loose.
    Well Mr Vance is doing his best to stop them buying, without really considering why the US needs to borrow from "Chinese Peasants".

    BBC News - Beijing calls Vance 'ignorant' over 'Chinese peasants' remark
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20zd4k6d36o

    It seems as if Vance actually wants them to stop buying US Treasuries.
    What he wants is them to no longer have the money to do so and for the US to no longer needing to borrow in such gargantuan terms. But he seems a little vague on the route from A to B.
    Yet simultaneously wanting to raise the US debt limit. Who is he expecting to buy it?
    I'm guessing that the yield on US bonds will rise to attract/retain buyers. This will make new US debt more expensive to service.
    It might also weaken the US$ so US debt and interest is worth less in other currencies.
    What an interesting experiment!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,085
    edited April 9

    Scott_xP said:

    There seems to be a measure of concern on my timelines from financial types.

    Apparently things are happening that are quite bad

    Yes, my savings are down by about three years' worth. Luckily my pension is safe because it's in bonds rather than equities. Oh damn. I've just checked and they're down too, but not as much.
    It's times like this that I love my index linked government pension.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,252
    As someone who loves engineering, but is not an engineer, here's a great video of two experts geeking out over VW's new electric motor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTilowhsX_w

    From my POV, it was interesting to see exactly what is inside one.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,408
    Stereodog said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Have you been to Bedford recently?
    Hardly deprived relative to other areas.

    It’s about time this govt tried doing things for the less wealthy parts of the U.K.

    https://www.bedford.gov.uk/your-council/statistics-and-census-information/indices-deprivation-2019/indices-deprivation-2019#:~:text=Nationally, Bedford Borough is in,rank of average score').
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,031
    @alexwickham

    UK borrowing costs are soaring as bond markets crater amid a US Treasuries fire sale

    *UK 30-YEAR YIELD RISES 16BPS TO 5.51%, HIGHEST SINCE 1998

    FTSE 100 down another 2.5% at open

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1909866369937551613
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,085
    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Planning for that park went public under Sunak.

    Given its location Merlin must be very unhappy.
    Presumably in the "wealthy South" because that's where they expect people can afford the tickets.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,031
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,385
    Foxy said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Planning for that park went public under Sunak.

    Given its location Merlin must be very unhappy.
    Presumably in the "wealthy South" because that's where they expect people can afford the tickets.
    It'll be full of Brummies. The reality is that there's a reasonably sized gap for a theme park with good links to the Midlands.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,410
    algarkirk said:

    IanB2 said:

    algarkirk said:

    R4 Today; someone is building some sort of funfair in Bedfordshire; which is fine, as long as attendance is not compulsory. This is of such cultural significance that a 'culture' minister comes on to talk about it. A funfair with rides, not the place of Pirandello in European culture or Merovingian reliquaries.

    More to the point, they expect 8 million customers a year and to employ tens of thousands. Which is good too. This expectation does not suggest that capitalism believes we are a nation impoverished, unemployable, bed bound, shoeless, homeless, on the sick, childless or travelling only on foot accompanied by a stick and a spotted handkerchief.

    fun and Bedfordshire in the same sentence?
    Bedfordshire is the birthplace of that witty and hilariously comic fun book 'Pilgrim's Progress'.

    Any amusement park in the county should be called 'Vanity Fair'.
    Surely, Trump has bagged that name?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,534

    The hubris on display is simple: America is the Greatest Country on Earth and the foreigners Need Us.

    China slapped with 104% tariffs on stuff it imports to the US. America is 16% of Chinese exports. China is a much higher percentage of US imports in a whole list of consumer product categories.

    Much easier for China to increase trade with the remaining 84% and let America stew.

    Let’s hope so.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394
    Scott_xP said:
    Be funny if its the bond market that brings Trump down.

    James Carville will die laughing.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,085
    Foss said:

    Foxy said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Planning for that park went public under Sunak.

    Given its location Merlin must be very unhappy.
    Presumably in the "wealthy South" because that's where they expect people can afford the tickets.
    It'll be full of Brummies. The reality is that there's a reasonably sized gap for a theme park with good links to the Midlands.
    It's a good location. Not that far from Harry Potter world in Watford, for people who like theme parks.

    Not my cup of tea.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,276

    algarkirk said:

    IanB2 said:

    algarkirk said:

    R4 Today; someone is building some sort of funfair in Bedfordshire; which is fine, as long as attendance is not compulsory. This is of such cultural significance that a 'culture' minister comes on to talk about it. A funfair with rides, not the place of Pirandello in European culture or Merovingian reliquaries.

    More to the point, they expect 8 million customers a year and to employ tens of thousands. Which is good too. This expectation does not suggest that capitalism believes we are a nation impoverished, unemployable, bed bound, shoeless, homeless, on the sick, childless or travelling only on foot accompanied by a stick and a spotted handkerchief.

    fun and Bedfordshire in the same sentence?
    Bedfordshire is the birthplace of that witty and hilariously comic fun book 'Pilgrim's Progress'.

    Any amusement park in the county should be called 'Vanity Fair'.
    Surely, Trump has bagged that name?
    He's more Vanity Unfair.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394
    Scott_xP said:

    @alexwickham

    UK borrowing costs are soaring as bond markets crater amid a US Treasuries fire sale

    *UK 30-YEAR YIELD RISES 16BPS TO 5.51%, HIGHEST SINCE 1998

    FTSE 100 down another 2.5% at open

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1909866369937551613

    Brace.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394
    Timely...


    What is a margin call and why is Wall Street terrified?
    Plunging markets following Trump’s tariffs could force investment banks to take emergency action

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/07/what-is-a-margin-call-why-trumps-tariff-trade-war-blame/
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,252
    Stereodog said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Have you been to Bedford recently?
    It's not *terrible*, but the walk from the train station to the bus station is not pleasant. That's one of my signs for a 'good' town, as it is something visitors often experience. Cambridge's isn't brilliant, either. Derby's been doing a lot to improve it, and it is much improved over three decades ago - though they lost the lovely art-deco bus station.

    One thing that strikes me about Bedfordshire, is that (I think!) it only has one National Trust property in it - the Willington Dovecote and stables. Most counties have many more.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,410

    DavidL said:

    Ratters said:

    Nigelb said:

    So that's what's tanking treasuries.

    Trump's economic chief just revealed plans to TAX foreign holdings of US financial assets. Hidden in plain sight.
    Miran outlined 5 forms of "burden sharing" for countries benefiting from the US dollar reserve system:
    Four of these deal with reducing trade surpluses (more US exports, less US imports, etc.) - essentially reducing their net accumulation of US financial assets.
    But the 5th proposal is the bombshell: Countries "could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods."
    Translation: You can keep holding US Treasuries and dollar financial assets, but you'll now pay a tax for the privilege.
    It's now almost a slam dunk that the administration's upcoming tax bill (likely in May) will include a provision bringing back the 30% foreign withholding tax on interest income that was eliminated in 1984.
    We predicted exactly this move in our ‘Dollar’s Dilemma’ and ‘Sovereign Wealth Effect’ reports published in Dec and Feb...

    https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/1909632751306780765

    The EU had better start issuing a few hundred billion jointly guaranteed short-dated debt.

    Need somewhere for all the central bank reserve money fleeing the US treasury market to go.
    All it takes for American bond yields to rise is for China to stop buying. And I suspect that they have. They have been the buyer of last resort (other than the Fed through quantative easing) for a very long time now. If they start selling all hell will break loose.
    If China sells, the Fed can buy, and nothing will break loose. It will be not unlike quantitative easing. According to the US Treasury, Britain owns more than China.
    https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0037
    Japan is supposedly meeting in Washington on tariffs. Maybe their message will be "kill the tariffs - or we are out of US bonds too."

    If enough turned up with that message....
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 828

    Stereodog said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Have you been to Bedford recently?
    It's not *terrible*, but the walk from the train station to the bus station is not pleasant. That's one of my signs for a 'good' town, as it is something visitors often experience. Cambridge's isn't brilliant, either. Derby's been doing a lot to improve it, and it is much improved over three decades ago - though they lost the lovely art-deco bus station.

    One thing that strikes me about Bedfordshire, is that (I think!) it only has one National Trust property in it - the Willington Dovecote and stables. Most counties have many more.
    We clearly share the same middle class irritations. My husband always complains that we live in the worst area to get use out of our National Trust card.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,472

    Scott_xP said:
    Be funny if its the bond market that brings Trump down.

    James Carville will die laughing.
    I see someone posted 'I thought treasury bonds were fixed rate'. Obviously from the Trump/Luckyguy school of economics.

    Sit down and listen carefully - Yes they are, but the trading price isn't, which impacts the effective rate.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 6,319
    edited April 9
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    Ratters said:

    Nigelb said:

    So that's what's tanking treasuries.

    Trump's economic chief just revealed plans to TAX foreign holdings of US financial assets. Hidden in plain sight.
    Miran outlined 5 forms of "burden sharing" for countries benefiting from the US dollar reserve system:
    Four of these deal with reducing trade surpluses (more US exports, less US imports, etc.) - essentially reducing their net accumulation of US financial assets.
    But the 5th proposal is the bombshell: Countries "could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods."
    Translation: You can keep holding US Treasuries and dollar financial assets, but you'll now pay a tax for the privilege.
    It's now almost a slam dunk that the administration's upcoming tax bill (likely in May) will include a provision bringing back the 30% foreign withholding tax on interest income that was eliminated in 1984.
    We predicted exactly this move in our ‘Dollar’s Dilemma’ and ‘Sovereign Wealth Effect’ reports published in Dec and Feb...

    https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/1909632751306780765

    The EU had better start issuing a few hundred billion jointly guaranteed short-dated debt.

    Need somewhere for all the central bank reserve money fleeing the US treasury market to go.
    All it takes for American bond yields to rise is for China to stop buying. And I suspect that they have. They have been the buyer of last resort (other than the Fed through quantative easing) for a very long time now. If they start selling all hell will break loose.
    If China sells, the Fed can buy, and nothing will break loose. It will be not unlike quantitative easing. According to the US Treasury, Britain owns more than China.
    https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0037
    Yes, I think China has been getting out of US Treasuries for some time, partly in anticipation of Trump number 2, and partly as protection against sanctions and seizures post the Russo-Ukranian war.
    I'm not an economist, but in my simplistic way of seeing things, the US trade deficit with China is somehow financed. I thought it was partly financed by China effectively lending the US money. Has this been replaced by (partly) private debt? Or Chinese buying American assets? Or some more circuitous route? Or maybe my understanding is too simplistic.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 828

    algarkirk said:

    IanB2 said:

    algarkirk said:

    R4 Today; someone is building some sort of funfair in Bedfordshire; which is fine, as long as attendance is not compulsory. This is of such cultural significance that a 'culture' minister comes on to talk about it. A funfair with rides, not the place of Pirandello in European culture or Merovingian reliquaries.

    More to the point, they expect 8 million customers a year and to employ tens of thousands. Which is good too. This expectation does not suggest that capitalism believes we are a nation impoverished, unemployable, bed bound, shoeless, homeless, on the sick, childless or travelling only on foot accompanied by a stick and a spotted handkerchief.

    fun and Bedfordshire in the same sentence?
    Bedfordshire is the birthplace of that witty and hilariously comic fun book 'Pilgrim's Progress'.

    Any amusement park in the county should be called 'Vanity Fair'.
    Never forget that Bedfordshire is also the birthplace of the hallowed institution known as Political Betting. 😄
    When the theme park was first proposed, Bedfordshire residents were sent an email from Universal asking for local history ideas to theme some of the food and drink outlets. I wanted to suggest Bunyan's Burgers.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,252
    Foxy said:

    Foss said:

    Foxy said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Planning for that park went public under Sunak.

    Given its location Merlin must be very unhappy.
    Presumably in the "wealthy South" because that's where they expect people can afford the tickets.
    It'll be full of Brummies. The reality is that there's a reasonably sized gap for a theme park with good links to the Midlands.
    It's a good location. Not that far from Harry Potter world in Watford, for people who like theme parks.

    Not my cup of tea.
    The A428 and Midland Main Line passes right by the site, as will East-West rail. AIUI they are going to 'move' an EWR station to right outside the site.

    This'll make it massively easier to get to than Alton Towers, whose access has always been stymied by JCB.

    (Four decades ago, JCB and Alton Towers joined together to get the road from Uttoxeter to Rocester improved. This led right up to the (then) main JCB factory's door. Then, when Alton Towers wanted to extend it three or four miles to them, JCB fought against it, as it would cross their land...)
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,408
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Foxy said:

    Looks like the dead cat bounce is over.

    It was over last night, we’re just catching up.

    Are you tempted at the moment ?
    No way. I am staying with cash.

    Don't try and catch a falling knife.

    What I have invested I will keep invested but what I have in cash stays in cash.

    I did sell some of mine and my wife’s funds start of March as they were too heavy in tech and took some profit. I’m just lucky it is not genius on my part. More wanting to move a portion to less risky investments.

    I am sooooo fortunate I retired when I did as I transferred my company DC pension to my SIPP and did so as cash. Currently transferring to II.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,408
    Stereodog said:

    algarkirk said:

    IanB2 said:

    algarkirk said:

    R4 Today; someone is building some sort of funfair in Bedfordshire; which is fine, as long as attendance is not compulsory. This is of such cultural significance that a 'culture' minister comes on to talk about it. A funfair with rides, not the place of Pirandello in European culture or Merovingian reliquaries.

    More to the point, they expect 8 million customers a year and to employ tens of thousands. Which is good too. This expectation does not suggest that capitalism believes we are a nation impoverished, unemployable, bed bound, shoeless, homeless, on the sick, childless or travelling only on foot accompanied by a stick and a spotted handkerchief.

    fun and Bedfordshire in the same sentence?
    Bedfordshire is the birthplace of that witty and hilariously comic fun book 'Pilgrim's Progress'.

    Any amusement park in the county should be called 'Vanity Fair'.
    Never forget that Bedfordshire is also the birthplace of the hallowed institution known as Political Betting. 😄
    When the theme park was first proposed, Bedfordshire residents were sent an email from Universal asking for local history ideas to theme some of the food and drink outlets. I wanted to suggest Bunyan's Burgers.
    The true pasty was from Bedfordshire. Apparently.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 828
    Taz said:

    Stereodog said:

    algarkirk said:

    IanB2 said:

    algarkirk said:

    R4 Today; someone is building some sort of funfair in Bedfordshire; which is fine, as long as attendance is not compulsory. This is of such cultural significance that a 'culture' minister comes on to talk about it. A funfair with rides, not the place of Pirandello in European culture or Merovingian reliquaries.

    More to the point, they expect 8 million customers a year and to employ tens of thousands. Which is good too. This expectation does not suggest that capitalism believes we are a nation impoverished, unemployable, bed bound, shoeless, homeless, on the sick, childless or travelling only on foot accompanied by a stick and a spotted handkerchief.

    fun and Bedfordshire in the same sentence?
    Bedfordshire is the birthplace of that witty and hilariously comic fun book 'Pilgrim's Progress'.

    Any amusement park in the county should be called 'Vanity Fair'.
    Never forget that Bedfordshire is also the birthplace of the hallowed institution known as Political Betting. 😄
    When the theme park was first proposed, Bedfordshire residents were sent an email from Universal asking for local history ideas to theme some of the food and drink outlets. I wanted to suggest Bunyan's Burgers.
    The true pasty was from Bedfordshire. Apparently.
    The Bedfordshire Clanger yes.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,920

    algarkirk said:

    IanB2 said:

    algarkirk said:

    R4 Today; someone is building some sort of funfair in Bedfordshire; which is fine, as long as attendance is not compulsory. This is of such cultural significance that a 'culture' minister comes on to talk about it. A funfair with rides, not the place of Pirandello in European culture or Merovingian reliquaries.

    More to the point, they expect 8 million customers a year and to employ tens of thousands. Which is good too. This expectation does not suggest that capitalism believes we are a nation impoverished, unemployable, bed bound, shoeless, homeless, on the sick, childless or travelling only on foot accompanied by a stick and a spotted handkerchief.

    fun and Bedfordshire in the same sentence?
    Bedfordshire is the birthplace of that witty and hilariously comic fun book 'Pilgrim's Progress'.

    Any amusement park in the county should be called 'Vanity Fair'.
    Surely, Trump has bagged that name?
    He's bagged the whole jury in Pilgrim's Progress:

    "Mr Blind Man, Mr Malice, Mr Love Lust, Mr LIve Loose, Mr Heady, Mr High Mind, Mr Emnity, Mr Liar, Mr Cruelty, Mr Hate Light, Mr Implacable."
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,085
    Stereodog said:

    algarkirk said:

    IanB2 said:

    algarkirk said:

    R4 Today; someone is building some sort of funfair in Bedfordshire; which is fine, as long as attendance is not compulsory. This is of such cultural significance that a 'culture' minister comes on to talk about it. A funfair with rides, not the place of Pirandello in European culture or Merovingian reliquaries.

    More to the point, they expect 8 million customers a year and to employ tens of thousands. Which is good too. This expectation does not suggest that capitalism believes we are a nation impoverished, unemployable, bed bound, shoeless, homeless, on the sick, childless or travelling only on foot accompanied by a stick and a spotted handkerchief.

    fun and Bedfordshire in the same sentence?
    Bedfordshire is the birthplace of that witty and hilariously comic fun book 'Pilgrim's Progress'.

    Any amusement park in the county should be called 'Vanity Fair'.
    Never forget that Bedfordshire is also the birthplace of the hallowed institution known as Political Betting. 😄
    When the theme park was first proposed, Bedfordshire residents were sent an email from Universal asking for local history ideas to theme some of the food and drink outlets. I wanted to suggest Bunyan's Burgers.
    I want PB Pineapple Pizzeria.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,072
    edited April 9
    Taz said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Foxy said:

    Looks like the dead cat bounce is over.

    It was over last night, we’re just catching up.

    Are you tempted at the moment ?
    No way. I am staying with cash.

    Don't try and catch a falling knife.

    What I have invested I will keep invested but what I have in cash stays in cash.

    I did sell some of mine and my wife’s funds start of March as they were too heavy in tech and took some profit. I’m just lucky it is not genius on my part. More wanting to move a portion to less risky investments.

    I am sooooo fortunate I retired when I did as I transferred my company DC pension to my SIPP and did so as cash. Currently transferring to II.
    That's how all my friends have reacted too - cancelling the standard order into the S&S ISA. I guess EMH would suggest keep investing as normal, particularly at our age, but we're not convinced the markets have fully come to terms with how bad this could be.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,262

    Foxy said:

    Foss said:

    Foxy said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Planning for that park went public under Sunak.

    Given its location Merlin must be very unhappy.
    Presumably in the "wealthy South" because that's where they expect people can afford the tickets.
    It'll be full of Brummies. The reality is that there's a reasonably sized gap for a theme park with good links to the Midlands.
    It's a good location. Not that far from Harry Potter world in Watford, for people who like theme parks.

    Not my cup of tea.
    The A428 and Midland Main Line passes right by the site, as will East-West rail. AIUI they are going to 'move' an EWR station to right outside the site.

    This'll make it massively easier to get to than Alton Towers, whose access has always been stymied by JCB.

    (Four decades ago, JCB and Alton Towers joined together to get the road from Uttoxeter to Rocester improved. This led right up to the (then) main JCB factory's door. Then, when Alton Towers wanted to extend it three or four miles to them, JCB fought against it, as it would cross their land...)
    What lovely people the Bamfords are.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,489

    If anyone believes that low skilled mass manufacturing is going to return to rust belt small towns:

    Chinese manufacturing labor isn’t just cheaper. It’s better.

    In China, there are no people who are too fat to work. The workers don’t storm off midshift, never to return to their job. You don’t have people who insist on being paid in cash so that they can keep their disability payments, while they do acrobatics on the factory floor that the non-disabled workers cannot do.

    Chinese workers much less likely to physically attack each other and their manager. They don’t take 30 minute bathroom breaks on company time. They don’t often quit because their out-of-state mother of their children discovered their new job and now receives 60% of their wages as child support. They don’t disappear because they’ve gone on meth benders. And they don’t fall asleep on a box midshift because their pay from yesterday got converted into pills.

    And they can do their times tables. To manufacture, you need to be able to consistently and accurately multiply 7 times 9 and read in English, and a disturbingly large portion of the American workforce cannot do that.

    Chinese workers work longer hours more happily and they’re physically faster with their hands; they can do things that American labor can’t. It’s years of accumulated skill, but it’s also a culture that is oriented around hard work and education that the United States no longer has.


    https://www.molsonhart.com/blog/america-underestimates-the-difficulty-of-bringing-manufacturing-back

    JD Vance himself writes in the famous book that he was surrounded by people in his Ohio town who refused to work or would start a job and leave after a week because they had found they couldn't just get up when they wanted and roll in.
    And the situation will have got worse in the years since then.

    It would take a generational cultural shift to create a workforce in western countries which was capable of doing those types of jobs. Even if the pay was good, which it wouldn't be.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,954

    Scott_xP said:

    @alexwickham

    UK borrowing costs are soaring as bond markets crater amid a US Treasuries fire sale

    *UK 30-YEAR YIELD RISES 16BPS TO 5.51%, HIGHEST SINCE 1998

    FTSE 100 down another 2.5% at open

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1909866369937551613

    Brace.
    Time for me to start doing the lottery again.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,024
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    There seems to be a measure of concern on my timelines from financial types.

    Apparently things are happening that are quite bad

    Yes, my savings are down by about three years' worth. Luckily my pension is safe because it's in bonds rather than equities. Oh damn. I've just checked and they're down too, but not as much.
    It's times like this that I love my index linked government pension.
    Wait till the triple lock-haters find out how much the government spends on these. Oh, hold on, that would include MPs' pensions. Stand down, everyone. Panic over.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394

    DavidL said:

    Ratters said:

    Nigelb said:

    So that's what's tanking treasuries.

    Trump's economic chief just revealed plans to TAX foreign holdings of US financial assets. Hidden in plain sight.
    Miran outlined 5 forms of "burden sharing" for countries benefiting from the US dollar reserve system:
    Four of these deal with reducing trade surpluses (more US exports, less US imports, etc.) - essentially reducing their net accumulation of US financial assets.
    But the 5th proposal is the bombshell: Countries "could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods."
    Translation: You can keep holding US Treasuries and dollar financial assets, but you'll now pay a tax for the privilege.
    It's now almost a slam dunk that the administration's upcoming tax bill (likely in May) will include a provision bringing back the 30% foreign withholding tax on interest income that was eliminated in 1984.
    We predicted exactly this move in our ‘Dollar’s Dilemma’ and ‘Sovereign Wealth Effect’ reports published in Dec and Feb...

    https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/1909632751306780765

    The EU had better start issuing a few hundred billion jointly guaranteed short-dated debt.

    Need somewhere for all the central bank reserve money fleeing the US treasury market to go.
    All it takes for American bond yields to rise is for China to stop buying. And I suspect that they have. They have been the buyer of last resort (other than the Fed through quantative easing) for a very long time now. If they start selling all hell will break loose.
    If China sells, the Fed can buy, and nothing will break loose. It will be not unlike quantitative easing. According to the US Treasury, Britain owns more than China.
    https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0037
    Japan is supposedly meeting in Washington on tariffs. Maybe their message will be "kill the tariffs - or we are out of US bonds too."

    If enough turned up with that message....
    Let's hope Starmer doesn't go cap in hand begging to kiss the hand of Orange.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,262
    Foxy said:

    Looks like the dead cat bounce is over.

    Dead cat splat more like.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,574

    Stereodog said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Have you been to Bedford recently?
    It's not *terrible*, but the walk from the train station to the bus station is not pleasant. That's one of my signs for a 'good' town, as it is something visitors often experience. Cambridge's isn't brilliant, either. Derby's been doing a lot to improve it, and it is much improved over three decades ago - though they lost the lovely art-deco bus station.

    One thing that strikes me about Bedfordshire, is that (I think!) it only has one National Trust property in it - the Willington Dovecote and stables. Most counties have many more.
    Surely *any* walk from the train station to the bus station is poor, they really need to be co-located. Aldershot recently closed its bus station and all the buses now start from slightly different places around town, which is a pain on the arse.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,475

    DavidL said:

    Ratters said:

    Nigelb said:

    So that's what's tanking treasuries.

    Trump's economic chief just revealed plans to TAX foreign holdings of US financial assets. Hidden in plain sight.
    Miran outlined 5 forms of "burden sharing" for countries benefiting from the US dollar reserve system:
    Four of these deal with reducing trade surpluses (more US exports, less US imports, etc.) - essentially reducing their net accumulation of US financial assets.
    But the 5th proposal is the bombshell: Countries "could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods."
    Translation: You can keep holding US Treasuries and dollar financial assets, but you'll now pay a tax for the privilege.
    It's now almost a slam dunk that the administration's upcoming tax bill (likely in May) will include a provision bringing back the 30% foreign withholding tax on interest income that was eliminated in 1984.
    We predicted exactly this move in our ‘Dollar’s Dilemma’ and ‘Sovereign Wealth Effect’ reports published in Dec and Feb...

    https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/1909632751306780765

    The EU had better start issuing a few hundred billion jointly guaranteed short-dated debt.

    Need somewhere for all the central bank reserve money fleeing the US treasury market to go.
    All it takes for American bond yields to rise is for China to stop buying. And I suspect that they have. They have been the buyer of last resort (other than the Fed through quantative easing) for a very long time now. If they start selling all hell will break loose.
    If China sells, the Fed can buy, and nothing will break loose. It will be not unlike quantitative easing. According to the US Treasury, Britain owns more than China.
    https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0037
    Japan is supposedly meeting in Washington on tariffs. Maybe their message will be "kill the tariffs - or we are out of US bonds too."

    If enough turned up with that message....
    Let's hope Starmer doesn't go cap in hand begging to kiss the hand of Orange.
    Or his big orange ass...
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,031
    The Mad King in his rambling speech last night said "I know what I am doing"

    So do we, but the point is I wonder who is telling him the plan is working, apart from the voices in his head?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,548
    edited April 9
    I regret to inform you all that a sign of The Apocalypse, as foretold in The Book of Revelation, has been confirmed.

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is right.

    If you think it’s alarming now, just wait for Trump to wreck the bond market

    The White House’s push for for expanded presidential power threatens US economic stability


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/08/trump-sell-off-is-bad-wait-until-wreck-us-bond-market/
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,548
    edited April 9

    Scott_xP said:

    @carlquintanilla.bsky.social‬

    FUNDSTRAT tonight:

    “.. in the last few days, we have had many conversations with macro fund managers. .. A few have quietly wondered if the President might be insane.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3lmdxgibcbk2l

    Not very quick on the uptake are they, fund managers.
    As the old joke goes, what’s the difference between a fund manager and God? God doesn’t think he’s a fund manager.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,194
    Scott_xP said:

    @carlquintanilla.bsky.social‬

    FUNDSTRAT tonight:

    “.. in the last few days, we have had many conversations with macro fund managers. .. A few have quietly wondered if the President might be insane.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3lmdxgibcbk2l

    Seriously? The man has been clearly insane for years, is the most well known politicians on the planet and fund managers are only quietly wondering about it now.....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394
    edited April 9
    Well, that's Reeves budget blown to pieces.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,506

    Scott_xP said:

    @alexwickham

    UK borrowing costs are soaring as bond markets crater amid a US Treasuries fire sale

    *UK 30-YEAR YIELD RISES 16BPS TO 5.51%, HIGHEST SINCE 1998

    FTSE 100 down another 2.5% at open

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1909866369937551613

    Brace.
    Time for me to start doing the lottery again.
    I picked the wrong week to give up trainspotting...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,195

    Scott_xP said:

    @alexwickham

    UK borrowing costs are soaring as bond markets crater amid a US Treasuries fire sale

    *UK 30-YEAR YIELD RISES 16BPS TO 5.51%, HIGHEST SINCE 1998

    FTSE 100 down another 2.5% at open

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1909866369937551613

    Brace.
    Time for me to start doing the lottery again.
    Has 'oor Rachel's headroom just disappeared again ?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,194

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    There seems to be a measure of concern on my timelines from financial types.

    Apparently things are happening that are quite bad

    Yes, my savings are down by about three years' worth. Luckily my pension is safe because it's in bonds rather than equities. Oh damn. I've just checked and they're down too, but not as much.
    It's times like this that I love my index linked government pension.
    Wait till the triple lock-haters find out how much the government spends on these. Oh, hold on, that would include MPs' pensions. Stand down, everyone. Panic over.
    Just imagine what we would spend if we triple locked the index for govt pensions.......
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,024
    London falls out of top five wealthiest cities as millionaires leave
    The UK capital has lost 11,300 dollar millionaires over the past year, a higher proportion than anywhere other than Moscow

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/london-falls-out-top-five-wealthiest-cities-wtmn0ws9m (£££)

    Equality rises under Labour.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394

    Scott_xP said:

    @carlquintanilla.bsky.social‬

    FUNDSTRAT tonight:

    “.. in the last few days, we have had many conversations with macro fund managers. .. A few have quietly wondered if the President might be insane.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3lmdxgibcbk2l

    Seriously? The man has been clearly insane for years, is the most well known politicians on the planet and fund managers are only quietly wondering about it now.....
    The Masters of the Universe and all that...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,831
    The risk for Trump of taking the US out of NATO is that in the unlikely event of his economic war with China turning into a military war he could no longer count on other NATO nations support
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394

    I regret to inform you all that a sign of The Apocalypse, as foretold in The Book of Revelation, has been confirmed.

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is right.

    If you think it’s alarming now, just wait for Trump to wreck the bond market

    The White House’s push for for expanded presidential power threatens US economic stability


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/08/trump-sell-off-is-bad-wait-until-wreck-us-bond-market/

    Yeh. I read that piece from AEP yesterday. Bleak.

    Double brace.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,194
    Foxy said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Planning for that park went public under Sunak.

    Given its location Merlin must be very unhappy.
    Presumably in the "wealthy South" because that's where they expect people can afford the tickets.
    Is disposable income for Joe Average higher in the north or south? I suspect north due to property prices but could be wrong.

    Theme parks are positioned near transport and population centres but just far enough out that the land is available and not exorbitant. Bedford fits the bill well.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,252

    Stereodog said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Have you been to Bedford recently?
    It's not *terrible*, but the walk from the train station to the bus station is not pleasant. That's one of my signs for a 'good' town, as it is something visitors often experience. Cambridge's isn't brilliant, either. Derby's been doing a lot to improve it, and it is much improved over three decades ago - though they lost the lovely art-deco bus station.

    One thing that strikes me about Bedfordshire, is that (I think!) it only has one National Trust property in it - the Willington Dovecote and stables. Most counties have many more.
    Surely *any* walk from the train station to the bus station is poor, they really need to be co-located. Aldershot recently closed its bus station and all the buses now start from slightly different places around town, which is a pain on the arse.
    I agree, but the station is not always in the city centre (as is the case in Derby (*) and Cambridge). In which case, you have to try to make the journey between the two as convenient and pleasant as possible. Bedford's... isn't. Or alternatively, run a shuttle bus between them - but that can be inconvenient as well.

    (*) Derby used to have Friargate station, which was very central, but that was not on the busiest line and shut in the sixties.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,148
    With 104% tariffs on imports from China to the US now taking effect, how much US manufacturing is reliant on imports of components from China, and how long until it collapses in the face of the tariffs?

    Also, as an aside, but does this kill the expansion of solar power in the US too?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394
    Julian Jessop
    @julianHjessop
    FYI, Treasury yields are rebounding, so fans of Trump's tariffs can't even claim a lower cost of government borrowing as a benefit... 🙄

    NB. oddly, yields are rising even though markets are pricing in more cuts from the Fed; this anomaly probably reflects a mix of factors including persistent inflation concerns, forced sales of bonds to cover losses on basis trades (arbitraging between cash Treasuries and futures) or other assets, a shortage of foreign buyers, and investors choosing to bet on rate cuts in other ways (e.g. interest rate swaps).

    https://x.com/julianHjessop/status/1909861558764581002
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,116
    Nigelb said:

    So that's what's tanking treasuries.

    Trump's economic chief just revealed plans to TAX foreign holdings of US financial assets. Hidden in plain sight.
    Miran outlined 5 forms of "burden sharing" for countries benefiting from the US dollar reserve system:
    Four of these deal with reducing trade surpluses (more US exports, less US imports, etc.) - essentially reducing their net accumulation of US financial assets.
    But the 5th proposal is the bombshell: Countries "could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods."
    Translation: You can keep holding US Treasuries and dollar financial assets, but you'll now pay a tax for the privilege.
    It's now almost a slam dunk that the administration's upcoming tax bill (likely in May) will include a provision bringing back the 30% foreign withholding tax on interest income that was eliminated in 1984.
    We predicted exactly this move in our ‘Dollar’s Dilemma’ and ‘Sovereign Wealth Effect’ reports published in Dec and Feb...

    https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/1909632751306780765

    So does that mean the dollar will go up or down?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,194

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,210
    Wily old Warren.
    Though correlation does not necessarily imply causation, it looks like attendance on Trump's inauguration cuckfest damages your wealth.

    https://x.com/Nigelj08223326/status/1909843692174635156
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,194
    viewcode said:

    Nigelb said:

    So that's what's tanking treasuries.

    Trump's economic chief just revealed plans to TAX foreign holdings of US financial assets. Hidden in plain sight.
    Miran outlined 5 forms of "burden sharing" for countries benefiting from the US dollar reserve system:
    Four of these deal with reducing trade surpluses (more US exports, less US imports, etc.) - essentially reducing their net accumulation of US financial assets.
    But the 5th proposal is the bombshell: Countries "could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods."
    Translation: You can keep holding US Treasuries and dollar financial assets, but you'll now pay a tax for the privilege.
    It's now almost a slam dunk that the administration's upcoming tax bill (likely in May) will include a provision bringing back the 30% foreign withholding tax on interest income that was eliminated in 1984.
    We predicted exactly this move in our ‘Dollar’s Dilemma’ and ‘Sovereign Wealth Effect’ reports published in Dec and Feb...

    https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/1909632751306780765

    So does that mean the dollar will go up or down?
    Probably.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,194

    Wily old Warren.
    Though correlation does not necessarily imply causation, it looks like attendance on Trump's inauguration cuckfest damages your wealth.

    https://x.com/Nigelj08223326/status/1909843692174635156

    Trumps version of a wealth tax!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
    I am firmly of the opinion that if social media had not been invented Trump would not be president.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,831

    If anyone believes that low skilled mass manufacturing is going to return to rust belt small towns:

    Chinese manufacturing labor isn’t just cheaper. It’s better.

    In China, there are no people who are too fat to work. The workers don’t storm off midshift, never to return to their job. You don’t have people who insist on being paid in cash so that they can keep their disability payments, while they do acrobatics on the factory floor that the non-disabled workers cannot do.

    Chinese workers much less likely to physically attack each other and their manager. They don’t take 30 minute bathroom breaks on company time. They don’t often quit because their out-of-state mother of their children discovered their new job and now receives 60% of their wages as child support. They don’t disappear because they’ve gone on meth benders. And they don’t fall asleep on a box midshift because their pay from yesterday got converted into pills.

    And they can do their times tables. To manufacture, you need to be able to consistently and accurately multiply 7 times 9 and read in English, and a disturbingly large portion of the American workforce cannot do that.

    Chinese workers work longer hours more happily and they’re physically faster with their hands; they can do things that American labor can’t. It’s years of accumulated skill, but it’s also a culture that is oriented around hard work and education that the United States no longer has.


    https://www.molsonhart.com/blog/america-underestimates-the-difficulty-of-bringing-manufacturing-back

    JD Vance himself writes in the famous book that he was surrounded by people in his Ohio town who refused to work or would start a job and leave after a week because they had found they couldn't just get up when they wanted and roll in.
    Except in the US benefits are time limited and contributory so you soon have to get another job
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,472
    edited April 9

    London falls out of top five wealthiest cities as millionaires leave
    The UK capital has lost 11,300 dollar millionaires over the past year, a higher proportion than anywhere other than Moscow

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/london-falls-out-top-five-wealthiest-cities-wtmn0ws9m (£££)

    Equality rises under Labour.

    I can't read the article because it is paywalled, but would be interested in the methodology. For a start $1m is under £800k. A vast amount of home owners in London will exceed that value who may well be moving out to the suburbs. A simple small drop in houses prices would have a dramatic impact around the £800k mark.

    To be meaningful you need to be looking at $10m or more.

    Any one got the details?

    One for 'More or Less' to rip apart I am guessing.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,831
    Nigelb said:

    Microsoft has canceled plans to build 3 new data centers worth $1 billion in Ohio.

    The company did not give a reason for stopping the projects, only saying the decision was made “after careful consideration”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1909695744681914703

    Most tech workers are Democrats anyway
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394

    With 104% tariffs on imports from China to the US now taking effect, how much US manufacturing is reliant on imports of components from China, and how long until it collapses in the face of the tariffs?

    Also, as an aside, but does this kill the expansion of solar power in the US too?

    Xmas is cancelled in the US that's for sure.

    The wholesale buyers iirc do the advanced orders for xmas tat about now.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,085

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
    I blame the BBC. If they hadn't commissioned "The Apprentice", the septics wouldn't have commissioned it, and Trump would still be a NY socialite and real estate huckster.

    So the BBC are the butterfly that flapped it's wings.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394
    Faisal islam: "trade is being tariffed enough to stop, essentially."
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,194
    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
    I blame the BBC. If they hadn't commissioned "The Apprentice", the septics wouldn't have commissioned it, and Trump would still be a NY socialite and real estate huckster.

    So the BBC are the butterfly that flapped it's wings.
    Obama and the White House Press Association Dinner joke perhaps.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,065
    a

    I regret to inform you all that a sign of The Apocalypse, as foretold in The Book of Revelation, has been confirmed.

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is right.

    If you think it’s alarming now, just wait for Trump to wreck the bond market

    The White House’s push for for expanded presidential power threatens US economic stability


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/08/trump-sell-off-is-bad-wait-until-wreck-us-bond-market/

    Yeh. I read that piece from AEP yesterday. Bleak.

    Double brace.
    To be fair, AEP has predicted 105,456 of the last 2 world financial crises.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,831

    If anyone believes that low skilled mass manufacturing is going to return to rust belt small towns:

    Chinese manufacturing labor isn’t just cheaper. It’s better.

    In China, there are no people who are too fat to work. The workers don’t storm off midshift, never to return to their job. You don’t have people who insist on being paid in cash so that they can keep their disability payments, while they do acrobatics on the factory floor that the non-disabled workers cannot do.

    Chinese workers much less likely to physically attack each other and their manager. They don’t take 30 minute bathroom breaks on company time. They don’t often quit because their out-of-state mother of their children discovered their new job and now receives 60% of their wages as child support. They don’t disappear because they’ve gone on meth benders. And they don’t fall asleep on a box midshift because their pay from yesterday got converted into pills.

    And they can do their times tables. To manufacture, you need to be able to consistently and accurately multiply 7 times 9 and read in English, and a disturbingly large portion of the American workforce cannot do that.

    Chinese workers work longer hours more happily and they’re physically faster with their hands; they can do things that American labor can’t. It’s years of accumulated skill, but it’s also a culture that is oriented around hard work and education that the United States no longer has.


    https://www.molsonhart.com/blog/america-underestimates-the-difficulty-of-bringing-manufacturing-back

    All very well but if Chinese imported goods face a 100% tariff it makes more sense to have more US based factories producting manufactured goods for the US market no matter how good the Chinese workforce is
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394
    How has the american system of government essentially allowed one man to deliberately engineer the second great depression with barely a peep from the actual legislators?

  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,116
    Um, on topic, there are two sides.

    De facto. Effectively leaving might be enough. Trump has suggested letting a European take the top job and has (via Vance) told the Europeans that there will be no involvement of American forces. So he has already left defacto
    De jure. Zeihan suggested that events in Romania (I forget which) may provide a pretended cause for departure.

    So he may decide that letting NATO whither is enough, or seize on an event as a pretended cause for departure. So yes, on that basis 5/1 is value?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,617

    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
    I blame the BBC. If they hadn't commissioned "The Apprentice", the septics wouldn't have commissioned it, and Trump would still be a NY socialite and real estate huckster.

    So the BBC are the butterfly that flapped it's wings.
    Obama and the White House Press Association Dinner joke perhaps.
    That's at least a wing on the butterfly. Being put down by a black man. Intolerable.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,148

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
    A lot of people, not unreasonably, didn't feel like the status quo was doing them any good, and mainstream politicians have fuck all to offer in terms of alternatives or leadership.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,065
    HYUFD said:

    If anyone believes that low skilled mass manufacturing is going to return to rust belt small towns:

    Chinese manufacturing labor isn’t just cheaper. It’s better.

    In China, there are no people who are too fat to work. The workers don’t storm off midshift, never to return to their job. You don’t have people who insist on being paid in cash so that they can keep their disability payments, while they do acrobatics on the factory floor that the non-disabled workers cannot do.

    Chinese workers much less likely to physically attack each other and their manager. They don’t take 30 minute bathroom breaks on company time. They don’t often quit because their out-of-state mother of their children discovered their new job and now receives 60% of their wages as child support. They don’t disappear because they’ve gone on meth benders. And they don’t fall asleep on a box midshift because their pay from yesterday got converted into pills.

    And they can do their times tables. To manufacture, you need to be able to consistently and accurately multiply 7 times 9 and read in English, and a disturbingly large portion of the American workforce cannot do that.

    Chinese workers work longer hours more happily and they’re physically faster with their hands; they can do things that American labor can’t. It’s years of accumulated skill, but it’s also a culture that is oriented around hard work and education that the United States no longer has.


    https://www.molsonhart.com/blog/america-underestimates-the-difficulty-of-bringing-manufacturing-back

    JD Vance himself writes in the famous book that he was surrounded by people in his Ohio town who refused to work or would start a job and leave after a week because they had found they couldn't just get up when they wanted and roll in.
    Except in the US benefits are time limited and contributory so you soon have to get another job
    It sounds very MAGA

    “Bring back flogging the serfs until productivity and moral improves.”

    Yet, in many industries, the US is world beating. Just not in rote assembly line jobs for shit pay.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,024

    Foxy said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Planning for that park went public under Sunak.

    Given its location Merlin must be very unhappy.
    Presumably in the "wealthy South" because that's where they expect people can afford the tickets.
    Is disposable income for Joe Average higher in the north or south? I suspect north due to property prices but could be wrong.

    Theme parks are positioned near transport and population centres but just far enough out that the land is available and not exorbitant. Bedford fits the bill well.
    And that should be a criterion for new towns, or new housing estates – near transport and population centres but just far enough out that the land is available and not exorbitant.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,276
    HYUFD said:

    If anyone believes that low skilled mass manufacturing is going to return to rust belt small towns:

    Chinese manufacturing labor isn’t just cheaper. It’s better.

    In China, there are no people who are too fat to work. The workers don’t storm off midshift, never to return to their job. You don’t have people who insist on being paid in cash so that they can keep their disability payments, while they do acrobatics on the factory floor that the non-disabled workers cannot do.

    Chinese workers much less likely to physically attack each other and their manager. They don’t take 30 minute bathroom breaks on company time. They don’t often quit because their out-of-state mother of their children discovered their new job and now receives 60% of their wages as child support. They don’t disappear because they’ve gone on meth benders. And they don’t fall asleep on a box midshift because their pay from yesterday got converted into pills.

    And they can do their times tables. To manufacture, you need to be able to consistently and accurately multiply 7 times 9 and read in English, and a disturbingly large portion of the American workforce cannot do that.

    Chinese workers work longer hours more happily and they’re physically faster with their hands; they can do things that American labor can’t. It’s years of accumulated skill, but it’s also a culture that is oriented around hard work and education that the United States no longer has.


    https://www.molsonhart.com/blog/america-underestimates-the-difficulty-of-bringing-manufacturing-back

    All very well but if Chinese imported goods face a 100% tariff it makes more sense to have more US based factories producting manufactured goods for the US market no matter how good the Chinese workforce is
    1. 100% tariffs just means that the Chinese have to be a factor of two times more effective than these hypothetical US factory workers. That doesn't seem too much of a stretch.
    2. You can't conjure up these factories overnight.
    3. The most likely outcome of making products more expensive and worse quality is that people won't buy them, made in the USA or not.

    I know that the arguments that Trump and Vance are putting forward. In their case, it's because they're loonies.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,148
    edited April 9

    How has the american system of government essentially allowed one man to deliberately engineer the second great depression with barely a peep from the actual legislators?

    It doesn't matter what systems or procedures you have in place if the people who are supposed to run the system are cowed by fear.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,617

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
    Lack of critical faculties amongst the electorate.
  • vikvik Posts: 239
    viewcode said:

    Um, on topic, there are two sides.

    De facto. Effectively leaving might be enough. Trump has suggested letting a European take the top job and has (via Vance) told the Europeans that there will be no involvement of American forces. So he has already left defacto
    De jure. Zeihan suggested that events in Romania (I forget which) may provide a pretended cause for departure.

    So he may decide that letting NATO whither is enough, or seize on an event as a pretended cause for departure. So yes, on that basis 5/1 is value?

    He doesn't have the power to do a de jure departure. He needs the approval of the Senate or an Act of Congress and he won't be able get either. There are still enough traditional Republican Senators who will block a de jure departure.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,031
    @Peston

    What we are watching is Trump’s tariff-induced crash turning into a Truss-style fiscal crisis. The collapse in US government long bonds, Treasuries, is startling, scary. It is precisely the opposite of what Trump and his advisers expected and wanted. It partly reflects heightened fears of US recession - which would see ballooning of US deficit - and may also be revenge selling by sovereign holders in tariff-hit countries. This bond market turmoil also increases risk of margin calls and forced sales by over exposed institutional investors. Another huge day.

    If the US government struggles in its auctions when selling new government bonds to fund its current deficit, at that juncture surely Trump capitulates to market pressure. The other actors to watch are the central banks - the Fed, Bank of England, Bank of Japan, European Central Bank - and whether they are obliged to act intervene by cutting interest rates and providing liquidity

    https://x.com/Peston/status/1909859264828420374
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,024
    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
    I blame the BBC. If they hadn't commissioned "The Apprentice", the septics wouldn't have commissioned it, and Trump would still be a NY socialite and real estate huckster.

    So the BBC are the butterfly that flapped it's wings.
    Fake news. Lord Sugar told Amol Rajan last month that he took The Apprentice gig because at his Florida holiday home, everyone was raving about Trump's version.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002945y/amol-rajan-interviews-alan-sugar
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,482

    Stereodog said:

    Taz said:

    Well done Labour, more for the wealthy south. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95n2837vgo

    Have you been to Bedford recently?
    It's not *terrible*, but the walk from the train station to the bus station is not pleasant. That's one of my signs for a 'good' town, as it is something visitors often experience. Cambridge's isn't brilliant, either. Derby's been doing a lot to improve it, and it is much improved over three decades ago - though they lost the lovely art-deco bus station.

    One thing that strikes me about Bedfordshire, is that (I think!) it only has one National Trust property in it - the Willington Dovecote and stables. Most counties have many more.
    It's a fair point, however are you perhaps overdoing a little the stereotyped version of the NT as a collection of Country Houses? Bedfordshire has a number of NY landscape locations - eg the Whipsnade Tree Cathedral.

    Fine, we have the washed-up people of Restore Trust who want to live in an Agatha Christie book playing bridge and yammering on about today's outrage bus, whatever it is, writing angry articles.

    I've been to NT a number of time already this year, and I'm somewhat impressed with things that I am seeing happening at the edges. At my local properties I'm seeing a few straws in the wind of the organisation trying to engage at a practical level outside their traditional constituency.

    I'm trying to do my bit to get them to pay attention to things like linking in to public footpath networks, and the current Govt a setting a massively better set of values than the Theresa Coffey (for example) shit show. Hardwick Hall has 200-300k people within easy non-motoring distance, and a massive footpath network which is ignored.

    One property to watch for improving access imo is Dunham Massey.

    * To my eye Restore Trust has links from some quite strange places, notably Tory idealogues wanting to create culture wars.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,210
    edited April 9

    IanB2 said:

    From the FT:

    The mystery is why so many — from Ackman’s fellow billionaires to Florida-based Venezuelans — have bent over backwards to miss who Trump is. A trillion comments have been wasted accusing the wrong people of Trump derangement syndrome. The real TDS afflicts those who keep seeing a rational actor, or an economic chess game, where none exists. The whole market arguably suffers from this syndrome. Shortly after plummeting on Monday morning, a fake news release surfaced that said Trump would announce a pause on his tariffs this week. The markets more than erased their opening losses. All those gains, in turn, were wiped out when the White House issued a denial.

    ....while Trump is in charge, stay short on America.

    As the ex-GOP rebels on the Bulwark keep saying: why did no one listen to us? We told you repeatedly what he was like and what would happen.
    It is a good question. Fox News and the development of social media both crucial to the Trumpian takeover, anything else?
    Coinciding with boomers disappointed that the home straights of their lives have not necessarily turned in their favor. Moreover, the general trends of the world have not been advantageous to them.
    Join the fcking club, I say.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,383

    a

    I regret to inform you all that a sign of The Apocalypse, as foretold in The Book of Revelation, has been confirmed.

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is right.

    If you think it’s alarming now, just wait for Trump to wreck the bond market

    The White House’s push for for expanded presidential power threatens US economic stability


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/08/trump-sell-off-is-bad-wait-until-wreck-us-bond-market/

    Yeh. I read that piece from AEP yesterday. Bleak.

    Double brace.
    To be fair, AEP has predicted 105,456 of the last 2 world financial crises.
    He has, but Trump is gearing up for an all out attack on the Fed.

    At the back of my mind is the knowledge that the US represents 25% of global GDP but 60% of market capitalisation. There were two ways that the US could adjust this and Trump has chosen the one that will lead to the collapse of US exceptionalism. This has already cost Trillions, by the end, it will be a number so vast as to be inconceivable.

    Unless the Congress seizes back control over the steering wheel, the US is going straight over the cliff. As it is the rule of law in the US, upon which all else depends, is now looking so threadbare as to presage a collapse of confidence in the entire system. If that happens, there is no come back for the US.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,410

    London falls out of top five wealthiest cities as millionaires leave
    The UK capital has lost 11,300 dollar millionaires over the past year, a higher proportion than anywhere other than Moscow

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/london-falls-out-top-five-wealthiest-cities-wtmn0ws9m (£££)

    Equality rises under Labour.

    Labour's mission will not be complete until we are all equally poor...
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,408
    Eabhal said:

    Taz said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Foxy said:

    Looks like the dead cat bounce is over.

    It was over last night, we’re just catching up.

    Are you tempted at the moment ?
    No way. I am staying with cash.

    Don't try and catch a falling knife.

    What I have invested I will keep invested but what I have in cash stays in cash.

    I did sell some of mine and my wife’s funds start of March as they were too heavy in tech and took some profit. I’m just lucky it is not genius on my part. More wanting to move a portion to less risky investments.

    I am sooooo fortunate I retired when I did as I transferred my company DC pension to my SIPP and did so as cash. Currently transferring to II.
    That's how all my friends have reacted too - cancelling the standard order into the S&S ISA. I guess EMH would suggest keep investing as normal, particularly at our age, but we're not convinced the markets have fully come to terms with how bad this could be.
    If I was in my thirties or forties I’d keep paying in and dollar cost average. At 59 I’m happy to commit some to equities to fund the back end of my retirement. But not a lot of it and a fair amount of that is in dividend paying stocks.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,687
    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    Microsoft has canceled plans to build 3 new data centers worth $1 billion in Ohio.

    The company did not give a reason for stopping the projects, only saying the decision was made “after careful consideration”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1909695744681914703

    Most tech workers are Democrats anyway
    If there is a 50% tariff on Nvidia cards - best to set up the data centers in Europe or Canada whether the tariffs are low and energy is relatively cheap and available
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,408

    London falls out of top five wealthiest cities as millionaires leave
    The UK capital has lost 11,300 dollar millionaires over the past year, a higher proportion than anywhere other than Moscow

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/london-falls-out-top-five-wealthiest-cities-wtmn0ws9m (£££)

    Equality rises under Labour.

    Labour's mission will not be complete until we are all equally poor...
    In that case they are aligned with Trump
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,420



    We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had the reserve currency. We had a capital inflow. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, printed as much money as you ever needed and traded it for Nike shoes and iPhones built in other countries. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.
    https://x.com/tszzl/status/1909873224550375526
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,652

    London falls out of top five wealthiest cities as millionaires leave
    The UK capital has lost 11,300 dollar millionaires over the past year, a higher proportion than anywhere other than Moscow

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/london-falls-out-top-five-wealthiest-cities-wtmn0ws9m (£££)

    Equality rises under Labour.

    They are actively wrecking the country. I'm not sure it really matters whether its through malice or sheer incompetence. There are signs that they have realised how much they've buggered it up, but corrective actions are happening too little, too late, and being mishandled to boot.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,772

    London falls out of top five wealthiest cities as millionaires leave
    The UK capital has lost 11,300 dollar millionaires over the past year, a higher proportion than anywhere other than Moscow

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/london-falls-out-top-five-wealthiest-cities-wtmn0ws9m (£££)

    Equality rises under Labour.

    They are actively wrecking the country. I'm not sure it really matters whether its through malice or sheer incompetence. There are signs that they have realised how much they've buggered it up, but corrective actions are happening too little, too late, and being mishandled to boot.
    Labour are wrecking it? So you're claiming that iot wasn't already wrecked?

    Your definition of "wrecked" may differ from reality.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,270
    boulay said:


    I’m guessing the tube wasn’t in for the entirety of the journey, just the customs points, however, it might have just felt good in which case the train journey might have been pleasurable - each to their own.

    I had a "round in the chamber" for about 15 minutes while boarding the MV Sanctions Buster in SA and for about 90 minutes while we waited for Dutch customs to clear the ship at 2am in Rotterdam. Getting it out was worse than putting it in both times.

    I've also smuggled gold into India quite a few times over the years but that's easier and doesn't necessitate arsehole shenanigans. Also very high value car parts through Dover quite recently as a brexit bonus but, again, no sphinctoral dilation involved.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,394
    Cicero said:

    a

    I regret to inform you all that a sign of The Apocalypse, as foretold in The Book of Revelation, has been confirmed.

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is right.

    If you think it’s alarming now, just wait for Trump to wreck the bond market

    The White House’s push for for expanded presidential power threatens US economic stability


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/08/trump-sell-off-is-bad-wait-until-wreck-us-bond-market/

    Yeh. I read that piece from AEP yesterday. Bleak.

    Double brace.
    To be fair, AEP has predicted 105,456 of the last 2 world financial crises.
    He has, but Trump is gearing up for an all out attack on the Fed.

    At the back of my mind is the knowledge that the US represents 25% of global GDP but 60% of market capitalisation. There were two ways that the US could adjust this and Trump has chosen the one that will lead to the collapse of US exceptionalism. This has already cost Trillions, by the end, it will be a number so vast as to be inconceivable.

    Unless the Congress seizes back control over the steering wheel, the US is going straight over the cliff. As it is the rule of law in the US, upon which all else depends, is now looking so threadbare as to presage a collapse of confidence in the entire system. If that happens, there is no come back for the US.
    Will spineless congress act to stop this insanity?

    This is the $64 trillion question now.
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