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  • dunhamdunham Posts: 12
    MattW said:

    Oh. For F**K'S sake.

    The Nobs of Altrincham all need self-driving Teslas because the installation of a short cycle track and pedestrian crossing means that none of them can find the plonking great parish church any more, so the vicar claims that 40% of them have stopped coming. Perhaps only 60% will tolerate fools gladly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1k4n2w9mygo

    What's happened is that 1/3 of the parish have a new crossing so it is no longer cut off by a 10k vehicles a day road, and he has a lovely new active travel route so they can all get to his church without a quarter mile diversion to find a crossing across the bloody main road.

    God save us from whining (*&^^$&*ers.

    (My lovingkindness muscles are under strain, today, after three cars full of police turned up to a minor incident in the local park, whilst other people leave their cars all over the f**cking pavements with ZERO intervention.)

    Personally, I find this new pedestrian crossing over the busy Dunham Road very useful on the walk to my regular place of worship (not St Margaret's Church).
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,359

    xkcd explains tariffs: https://xkcd.com/3073/

    A joke containing "Geotechnical landscape surveys" and "geotextile" that is actually funny.

    I love XKCD.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,917
    So their love affair lasted just a year or so.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,814

    What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...
    I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,170

    I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.
    The meaning of words and language change all the time. See “sick”, for example. You can’t gatekeep the English language.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,359

    I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.
    If you disagree with the basis of my entire point, then your understanding of the English language must be rather poor. Which, given the various positions you have taken on things like MH17 in the past, is unsurprising.

    Just look at what Johnson did when he chucked out a load of more centrist MPs; he told a large part of the party, and its voters, that they were not Tories. I'd say that's a fairly good equivalent to Ratner.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,688

    I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.
    ’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

    “Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
    The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
    Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
    The frumious Bandersnatch!”

    He took his vorpal sword in hand;
    Long time the manxome foe he sought—
    So rested he by the Tumtum tree
    And stood awhile in thought.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,814

    If you disagree with the basis of my entire point, then your understanding of the English language must be rather poor. Which, given the various positions you have taken on things like MH17 in the past, is unsurprising.

    Just look at what Johnson did when he chucked out a load of more centrist MPs; he told a large part of the party, and its voters, that they were not Tories. I'd say that's a fairly good equivalent to Ratner.
    Well you'd be wrong. And to add to that, you're now acting like a complete tosspot, as ever.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296
    edited April 8

    Don't you wash your rice??
    We certainly do. Makes no difference. Ask your Mum ;-)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,550
    Chris said:

    So their love affair lasted just a year or so.
    The most expensive love affair in history?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,814

    The meaning of words and language change all the time. See “sick”, for example. You can’t gatekeep the English language.
    The use of Ratner is designed to indicate awareness of a well-known marketing story, but its use to describe every single incidence of an action that might harm a brand or anything else, indicates you're not aware of that story at all. That's silly, and if I want to point it out, I will.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,359

    Well you'd be wrong. And to add to that, you're now acting like a complete tosspot, as ever.
    I don't think I am wrong - telling a large part of the party - and the voters - that they are unwelcome was not enhancing the brand, was it?

    And as for Truss.... enough said.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,240
    Looks a bit of a dead cat bounce in the far east, and the FTSE to open 150 points higher, before the gloom restarts tomorrow.

    Is there any reason to forsee a real recovery?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,478
    Foxy said:

    Looks a bit of a dead cat bounce in the far east, and the FTSE to open 150 points higher, before the gloom restarts tomorrow.

    Is there any reason to forsee a real recovery?

    Term limits?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,664

    NEW THREAD

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,550
    Terrible news for Russia on the oil price front: OPEC+ increasing production by 450,000 bopd whilst Saudi is cutting the price it charges.

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Saudi-Arabia-Slashes-Oil-Prices-Ahead-of-Output-Boost.html

    This follows Trump's demand slump on the back of his tariff recession fears. India and China aren't going to need Moscow's discounted oil deals - they can get it on the open market without risk of attendant sanctions.

    Oh, and the rate of inflation in Russia is up to an official 10.1% in February, whilst production rose by just 0.1%. Stagflation writ large.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,359

    The use of Ratner is designed to indicate awareness of a well-known marketing story, but its use to describe every single incidence of an action that might harm a brand or anything else, indicates you're not aware of that story at all. That's silly, and if I want to point it out, I will.
    IMV you are trying to define 'Ratnering' so narrowly it could rarely, if ever, be used. So, a question: can you name another occasion someone has Ratnered a brand, in your view?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,629
    dunham said:

    Personally, I find this new pedestrian crossing over the busy Dunham Road very useful on the walk to my regular place of worship (not St Margaret's Church).
    Thanks for the reply. I had a serious dig into this when the story was first out last year, and the non-attendance was being blamed on cycle lane before it was actually built.

    The previous Vicar there was a character - a biker with a Harley that he used for charity fundraising.

    What they actually have (in Church of England terms) is a superb new mission / engagement opportunity - 1/3 of their parish area is the other side of the main road and has been cut off since the (estd) 1960s. And they now have a significant route in the new active travel network going past their door and people waiting outside for a minute to cross the road on the pedestrian crossing, and they are now the focus where people will come to cross.

    It's crying out for a carefully designed wayside pulpit and noticeboard, and some cycle and mobility aid parking at the church. Plus it's an ideal place for inclusive cycling trials, since they have a sealed path and car park.

    All the infra and organisations exist in Manchester, including grants for their cycle / mobility aid parking.

    But ... no.

    That's why I'm a little cross about it.
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