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Personally, I find this new pedestrian crossing over the busy Dunham Road very useful on the walk to my regular place of worship (not St Margaret's Church).MattW said:Oh. For F**K'S sake.
The Nobs of Altrincham all need self-driving Teslas because the installation of a short cycle track and pedestrian crossing means that none of them can find the plonking great parish church any more, so the vicar claims that 40% of them have stopped coming. Perhaps only 60% will tolerate fools gladly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1k4n2w9mygo
What's happened is that 1/3 of the parish have a new crossing so it is no longer cut off by a 10k vehicles a day road, and he has a lovely new active travel route so they can all get to his church without a quarter mile diversion to find a crossing across the bloody main road.
God save us from whining (*&^^$&*ers.
(My lovingkindness muscles are under strain, today, after three cars full of police turned up to a minor incident in the local park, whilst other people leave their cars all over the f**cking pavements with ZERO intervention.)0 -
A joke containing "Geotechnical landscape surveys" and "geotextile" that is actually funny.bondegezou said:xkcd explains tariffs: https://xkcd.com/3073/
I love XKCD.2 -
So their love affair lasted just a year or so.DecrepiterJohnL said:Musk turns on Trump amid tariff fallout
https://www.cityam.com/musk-turns-on-trump-amid-tariff-fallout/1 -
I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.JosiasJessop said:
What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...Luckyguy1983 said:
The effect can be argued, but the method, standing in front of an audience and deliberately shooting your product in the foot, is as exact a parallel as you'll find in politics.Fishing said:
She didn't really "Ratner" the brand - Ratner said that their products were crap, while TMay said that some other people called the Conservatives "the nasty party" - not the same thing at all.Luckyguy1983 said:
Strangely we agree on this. I have sort of got used to her slow tempo too.MoonRabbit said:
Kemi has really improved as this year has gone on - she is now regularly besting Starmer at PMQs. She is punchy and clear in interviews and on social media - such as how she dismantled Lammy yesterday, not a tough gig though admittedly. Her vox pops and soundbites getting onto the news have been so good recently, I can imagine Kemi as a Prime Minister now.Casino_Royale said:On topic, the Conservatives have ratnered their brand: their own supporters don't trust them, and their elected representatives despise them in turn; everyone else who doesn't vote for them hates them.
I'm not sure I see a way out.
The Tories have not 'Ratnered' their brand recently. Theresa May ratnered the brand when she called them 'the nasty party'. That was a classic Ratner, and almost as damaging as the original in its own way.
Anyway, she first called them that in 2002. After that they went on to lose one general election, win four and lose one.
Compared to disasters like the Truss premiership and the current split on the Right, I don't think it had any effect whatsover.
Truss and other issues may have been disastrous or damaging, but they weren't anything to do with Ratner.1 -
The meaning of words and language change all the time. See “sick”, for example. You can’t gatekeep the English language.Luckyguy1983 said:
I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.JosiasJessop said:
What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...Luckyguy1983 said:
The effect can be argued, but the method, standing in front of an audience and deliberately shooting your product in the foot, is as exact a parallel as you'll find in politics.Fishing said:
She didn't really "Ratner" the brand - Ratner said that their products were crap, while TMay said that some other people called the Conservatives "the nasty party" - not the same thing at all.Luckyguy1983 said:
Strangely we agree on this. I have sort of got used to her slow tempo too.MoonRabbit said:
Kemi has really improved as this year has gone on - she is now regularly besting Starmer at PMQs. She is punchy and clear in interviews and on social media - such as how she dismantled Lammy yesterday, not a tough gig though admittedly. Her vox pops and soundbites getting onto the news have been so good recently, I can imagine Kemi as a Prime Minister now.Casino_Royale said:On topic, the Conservatives have ratnered their brand: their own supporters don't trust them, and their elected representatives despise them in turn; everyone else who doesn't vote for them hates them.
I'm not sure I see a way out.
The Tories have not 'Ratnered' their brand recently. Theresa May ratnered the brand when she called them 'the nasty party'. That was a classic Ratner, and almost as damaging as the original in its own way.
Anyway, she first called them that in 2002. After that they went on to lose one general election, win four and lose one.
Compared to disasters like the Truss premiership and the current split on the Right, I don't think it had any effect whatsover.
Truss and other issues may have been disastrous or damaging, but they weren't anything to do with Ratner.0 -
If you disagree with the basis of my entire point, then your understanding of the English language must be rather poor. Which, given the various positions you have taken on things like MH17 in the past, is unsurprising.Luckyguy1983 said:
I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.JosiasJessop said:
What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...Luckyguy1983 said:
The effect can be argued, but the method, standing in front of an audience and deliberately shooting your product in the foot, is as exact a parallel as you'll find in politics.Fishing said:
She didn't really "Ratner" the brand - Ratner said that their products were crap, while TMay said that some other people called the Conservatives "the nasty party" - not the same thing at all.Luckyguy1983 said:
Strangely we agree on this. I have sort of got used to her slow tempo too.MoonRabbit said:
Kemi has really improved as this year has gone on - she is now regularly besting Starmer at PMQs. She is punchy and clear in interviews and on social media - such as how she dismantled Lammy yesterday, not a tough gig though admittedly. Her vox pops and soundbites getting onto the news have been so good recently, I can imagine Kemi as a Prime Minister now.Casino_Royale said:On topic, the Conservatives have ratnered their brand: their own supporters don't trust them, and their elected representatives despise them in turn; everyone else who doesn't vote for them hates them.
I'm not sure I see a way out.
The Tories have not 'Ratnered' their brand recently. Theresa May ratnered the brand when she called them 'the nasty party'. That was a classic Ratner, and almost as damaging as the original in its own way.
Anyway, she first called them that in 2002. After that they went on to lose one general election, win four and lose one.
Compared to disasters like the Truss premiership and the current split on the Right, I don't think it had any effect whatsover.
Truss and other issues may have been disastrous or damaging, but they weren't anything to do with Ratner.
Just look at what Johnson did when he chucked out a load of more centrist MPs; he told a large part of the party, and its voters, that they were not Tories. I'd say that's a fairly good equivalent to Ratner.0 -
’Twas brillig, and the slithy tovesLuckyguy1983 said:
I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.JosiasJessop said:
What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...Luckyguy1983 said:
The effect can be argued, but the method, standing in front of an audience and deliberately shooting your product in the foot, is as exact a parallel as you'll find in politics.Fishing said:
She didn't really "Ratner" the brand - Ratner said that their products were crap, while TMay said that some other people called the Conservatives "the nasty party" - not the same thing at all.Luckyguy1983 said:
Strangely we agree on this. I have sort of got used to her slow tempo too.MoonRabbit said:
Kemi has really improved as this year has gone on - she is now regularly besting Starmer at PMQs. She is punchy and clear in interviews and on social media - such as how she dismantled Lammy yesterday, not a tough gig though admittedly. Her vox pops and soundbites getting onto the news have been so good recently, I can imagine Kemi as a Prime Minister now.Casino_Royale said:On topic, the Conservatives have ratnered their brand: their own supporters don't trust them, and their elected representatives despise them in turn; everyone else who doesn't vote for them hates them.
I'm not sure I see a way out.
The Tories have not 'Ratnered' their brand recently. Theresa May ratnered the brand when she called them 'the nasty party'. That was a classic Ratner, and almost as damaging as the original in its own way.
Anyway, she first called them that in 2002. After that they went on to lose one general election, win four and lose one.
Compared to disasters like the Truss premiership and the current split on the Right, I don't think it had any effect whatsover.
Truss and other issues may have been disastrous or damaging, but they weren't anything to do with Ratner.
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
“Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!”
He took his vorpal sword in hand;
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thought.1 -
Well you'd be wrong. And to add to that, you're now acting like a complete tosspot, as ever.JosiasJessop said:
If you disagree with the basis of my entire point, then your understanding of the English language must be rather poor. Which, given the various positions you have taken on things like MH17 in the past, is unsurprising.Luckyguy1983 said:
I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.JosiasJessop said:
What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...Luckyguy1983 said:
The effect can be argued, but the method, standing in front of an audience and deliberately shooting your product in the foot, is as exact a parallel as you'll find in politics.Fishing said:
She didn't really "Ratner" the brand - Ratner said that their products were crap, while TMay said that some other people called the Conservatives "the nasty party" - not the same thing at all.Luckyguy1983 said:
Strangely we agree on this. I have sort of got used to her slow tempo too.MoonRabbit said:
Kemi has really improved as this year has gone on - she is now regularly besting Starmer at PMQs. She is punchy and clear in interviews and on social media - such as how she dismantled Lammy yesterday, not a tough gig though admittedly. Her vox pops and soundbites getting onto the news have been so good recently, I can imagine Kemi as a Prime Minister now.Casino_Royale said:On topic, the Conservatives have ratnered their brand: their own supporters don't trust them, and their elected representatives despise them in turn; everyone else who doesn't vote for them hates them.
I'm not sure I see a way out.
The Tories have not 'Ratnered' their brand recently. Theresa May ratnered the brand when she called them 'the nasty party'. That was a classic Ratner, and almost as damaging as the original in its own way.
Anyway, she first called them that in 2002. After that they went on to lose one general election, win four and lose one.
Compared to disasters like the Truss premiership and the current split on the Right, I don't think it had any effect whatsover.
Truss and other issues may have been disastrous or damaging, but they weren't anything to do with Ratner.
Just look at what Johnson did when he chucked out a load of more centrist MPs; he told a large part of the party, and its voters, that they were not Tories. I'd say that's a fairly good equivalent to Ratner.1 -
We certainly do. Makes no difference. Ask your Mum ;-)Sunil_Prasannan said:
Don't you wash your rice??Benpointer said:
Check out the scum you get from boiling brown rice!AnneJGP said:
Maybe I will go back to being a vegetarian again.JosiasJessop said:
An AI answer:Luckyguy1983 said:
This is a complete guess, so don't accuse me of kooky theories, but maybe it's dead pathogens and parasites and things. I have heard about skimming and how its better to take off the foam and get rid. Never investigated it though.Benpointer said:
Fair enough. I winder what the 'scum' actually is? We do get a scum from simmering the carcass for stock which we always do after a roast bird - so much better than stock cube stock. We skim the scum off and freeze the stock for whenever we need it.FF43 said:
You presumably haven't seen the scum because you have never boiled it out. The faff is the effort of boiling a pan of water, sticking a chicken in the water and taking it out again. Probably about 20 seconds of your time. For that you get a slightly better tasting roast bird and save maybe 10 minutes cooking time.Benpointer said:
Seems like a bit of a faff tbh. I've never noticed any 'scum' with my roast chicken.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good idea to be fairFF43 said:
I do parboil whole chicken for about 5 minutes before roasting. It removes an unpleasant scum. It also helps cook the bird more evenly as both the outside and the inside of the carcass are warmed before putting in the oven.Big_G_NorthWales said:
This is an extract from Wales on line re washing chickenLuckyguy1983 said:
It does a lot more than not washing, as for obvious reasons it will be on the surface.Nigelb said:
Neither does washing, in all likelihood.Luckyguy1983 said:
I like you a lot BigG, but which part of the fact that cooking does absolutely nothing to remove chemical contamination from BPAs in (for example) film packaging do you not understand.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Don't wash it - cook it correctlyLuckyguy1983 said:
Where would you suggest one should wash it?Gallowgate said:
Yes but you wash chicken in the sinkLuckyguy1983 said:
China has been on a decades long mission to undermine our economy as well as America's. To do this they have employed every tactic from sharp business practice to outright theft. It is high time they were faced down, and I am glad that someone has come in with the balls to do it.OllyT said:
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Thank goodness there is one country willing & able to face the bully down. I'm cheering them on (for the time being at least).Fairliered said:
I never thought I would be on the side of China, but I hope they fuck Trumpistan until the blood runs out of Trump’s arse.nico67 said:So Trumps allowed to hammer China but they’re not allowed to respond . If the Chinese don’t back down or some agreement is reached then the markets are going to completely implode .
The UK actually trades very little with China, but as Malmesbury was explaining, our tariff relationship is completely unbalanced due to the Foreign Office's fear of 'upsetting' them. Well, bugger them.
Why chicken really shouldn’t be washed
Traces of feathers, slime or dirt might have necessitated washing chicken half a century ago. But nowadays, poultry is pre-washed and ready to cook when you buy it.
Still, some people seem to think you should wash your chicken in order to remove the dangerous microorganisms raw meat contains. While it’s true chicken does contain harmful microorganisms, washing prior to cooking doesn’t remove them.
Chicken in particular naturally carries Salmonella and Campylobacter. These can cause very severe illness, with infections causing symptoms such as fever, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea and possibly even septicaemia (blood infection).
Children, elderly people, pregnant women and those with other health conditions or poor immune systems are most at risk of illness from these bacteria. But even in healthy people, Salmonella and Campylobacter infections can lead to hospitalisations and death.
Washing chicken prior to cooking does not eliminate all the germs within a chicken. At most, it may only remove the bacteria on the surface. But this practice actually makes the overall infection risk from raw chicken significantly worse, as it may potentially cause the pathogens washed off the chicken skin to spread throughout your kitchen.
When you put raw chicken under the tap, the bacteria on the skin move into the water stream. This will then be splashed into your sink – and potentially your surrounding counters, cupboards and dish rack. This water spray can travel up to 80cm – the length of the average adult arm. This makes cross-contamination pretty likely, especially if these water droplets have landed elsewhere in your kitchen. It may even contaminate other uncooked foods you later place in the same sink.
Even if you rinse the sink with water after washing the chicken, this may not be sufficient to remove all the pathogenic bacteria that have become attached.
It’s also worth noting that soaking poultry in a brine of water and vinegar or citrus juice does not make it more hygienic. Research has shown that Salmonella weren’t killed following soaking chicken in vinegar or citrus juice for more than five minutes. Other research shows that Campylobacter numbers may be reduced following a marinade in vinegar or lemon juice, but it takes 24 hours of soaking.
Yesterday we tried a Waitrose stock-brined chicken (https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/no1-british-free-range-whole-stock-brined-chicken).
You roast it in the bag for an hour then 20-30mins outside the bag. It was excellent, tender and flavoursome. No question of spreading any contamination pre-cooking with that one.
And at £4.95 for the standard brined chicken or £9.95 for the "No. 1" free-range version, it's great value. We had roast chicken for the two of us, a cold chicken sandwich each today, enough meat in the freezer for a biryani for two, plus a litre of chicken stock from the bones.
And no chlorine wash or growth hormones.
Anyway, I think we'll stick to the Waitrose brined chickens for the foreseeable, as this one was so good.
"The "scum" that forms on top of boiling chicken broth is primarily coagulated proteins (like albumin) and fat that rise to the surface and clump together, often appearing as a foamy or bubbly layer. "0 -
The most expensive love affair in history?Chris said:
So their love affair lasted just a year or so.DecrepiterJohnL said:Musk turns on Trump amid tariff fallout
https://www.cityam.com/musk-turns-on-trump-amid-tariff-fallout/0 -
The use of Ratner is designed to indicate awareness of a well-known marketing story, but its use to describe every single incidence of an action that might harm a brand or anything else, indicates you're not aware of that story at all. That's silly, and if I want to point it out, I will.Gallowgate said:
The meaning of words and language change all the time. See “sick”, for example. You can’t gatekeep the English language.Luckyguy1983 said:
I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.JosiasJessop said:
What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...Luckyguy1983 said:
The effect can be argued, but the method, standing in front of an audience and deliberately shooting your product in the foot, is as exact a parallel as you'll find in politics.Fishing said:
She didn't really "Ratner" the brand - Ratner said that their products were crap, while TMay said that some other people called the Conservatives "the nasty party" - not the same thing at all.Luckyguy1983 said:
Strangely we agree on this. I have sort of got used to her slow tempo too.MoonRabbit said:
Kemi has really improved as this year has gone on - she is now regularly besting Starmer at PMQs. She is punchy and clear in interviews and on social media - such as how she dismantled Lammy yesterday, not a tough gig though admittedly. Her vox pops and soundbites getting onto the news have been so good recently, I can imagine Kemi as a Prime Minister now.Casino_Royale said:On topic, the Conservatives have ratnered their brand: their own supporters don't trust them, and their elected representatives despise them in turn; everyone else who doesn't vote for them hates them.
I'm not sure I see a way out.
The Tories have not 'Ratnered' their brand recently. Theresa May ratnered the brand when she called them 'the nasty party'. That was a classic Ratner, and almost as damaging as the original in its own way.
Anyway, she first called them that in 2002. After that they went on to lose one general election, win four and lose one.
Compared to disasters like the Truss premiership and the current split on the Right, I don't think it had any effect whatsover.
Truss and other issues may have been disastrous or damaging, but they weren't anything to do with Ratner.0 -
I don't think I am wrong - telling a large part of the party - and the voters - that they are unwelcome was not enhancing the brand, was it?Luckyguy1983 said:
Well you'd be wrong. And to add to that, you're now acting like a complete tosspot, as ever.JosiasJessop said:
If you disagree with the basis of my entire point, then your understanding of the English language must be rather poor. Which, given the various positions you have taken on things like MH17 in the past, is unsurprising.Luckyguy1983 said:
I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.JosiasJessop said:
What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...Luckyguy1983 said:
The effect can be argued, but the method, standing in front of an audience and deliberately shooting your product in the foot, is as exact a parallel as you'll find in politics.Fishing said:
She didn't really "Ratner" the brand - Ratner said that their products were crap, while TMay said that some other people called the Conservatives "the nasty party" - not the same thing at all.Luckyguy1983 said:
Strangely we agree on this. I have sort of got used to her slow tempo too.MoonRabbit said:
Kemi has really improved as this year has gone on - she is now regularly besting Starmer at PMQs. She is punchy and clear in interviews and on social media - such as how she dismantled Lammy yesterday, not a tough gig though admittedly. Her vox pops and soundbites getting onto the news have been so good recently, I can imagine Kemi as a Prime Minister now.Casino_Royale said:On topic, the Conservatives have ratnered their brand: their own supporters don't trust them, and their elected representatives despise them in turn; everyone else who doesn't vote for them hates them.
I'm not sure I see a way out.
The Tories have not 'Ratnered' their brand recently. Theresa May ratnered the brand when she called them 'the nasty party'. That was a classic Ratner, and almost as damaging as the original in its own way.
Anyway, she first called them that in 2002. After that they went on to lose one general election, win four and lose one.
Compared to disasters like the Truss premiership and the current split on the Right, I don't think it had any effect whatsover.
Truss and other issues may have been disastrous or damaging, but they weren't anything to do with Ratner.
Just look at what Johnson did when he chucked out a load of more centrist MPs; he told a large part of the party, and its voters, that they were not Tories. I'd say that's a fairly good equivalent to Ratner.
And as for Truss.... enough said.0 -
Looks a bit of a dead cat bounce in the far east, and the FTSE to open 150 points higher, before the gloom restarts tomorrow.
Is there any reason to forsee a real recovery?0 -
F1: it's here, the review of the most exciting race ever held! Forget Canada 2011, I speak, of course, of Japan in 2025 (also, a preview of Bahrain, which might actually be good):
Podbean: https://undercutters.podbean.com/e/f1-2025-japanese-gp-review-and-bahrain-gp-preview/
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/f1-2025-japanese-gp-review-and-bahrain-gp-preview/id1786574257?i=1000702649287
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0uPJ5ejTQNpzA1ONAtbIoP
Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/bcfe213b-55fb-408a-a823-dc6693ee9f78/episodes/5bf0f8d4-7d90-4cad-b265-fc30b3f68e83/undercutters---f1-podcast-f1-2025-japanese-gp-review-and-bahrain-gp-preview
Transcript: https://morrisf1.blogspot.com/2025/04/f1-2025-japanese-gp-review-and-bahrain.html0 -
Term limits?Foxy said:Looks a bit of a dead cat bounce in the far east, and the FTSE to open 150 points higher, before the gloom restarts tomorrow.
Is there any reason to forsee a real recovery?0 -
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Terrible news for Russia on the oil price front: OPEC+ increasing production by 450,000 bopd whilst Saudi is cutting the price it charges.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Saudi-Arabia-Slashes-Oil-Prices-Ahead-of-Output-Boost.html
This follows Trump's demand slump on the back of his tariff recession fears. India and China aren't going to need Moscow's discounted oil deals - they can get it on the open market without risk of attendant sanctions.
Oh, and the rate of inflation in Russia is up to an official 10.1% in February, whilst production rose by just 0.1%. Stagflation writ large.1 -
IMV you are trying to define 'Ratnering' so narrowly it could rarely, if ever, be used. So, a question: can you name another occasion someone has Ratnered a brand, in your view?Luckyguy1983 said:
The use of Ratner is designed to indicate awareness of a well-known marketing story, but its use to describe every single incidence of an action that might harm a brand or anything else, indicates you're not aware of that story at all. That's silly, and if I want to point it out, I will.Gallowgate said:
The meaning of words and language change all the time. See “sick”, for example. You can’t gatekeep the English language.Luckyguy1983 said:
I disagree with the basis of your entire point, but taking the basis as read, supporters of Johnson and Truss would have wrecked, damaged or tarnished the brand, but not Ratnered it, as what Gerald Ratner did was very specific. The phrase must mean something or words and language are meaningless.JosiasJessop said:
What she said was true, and needed saying for the good of the party. The people ratnering the brand are those who supported Johnson and Truss...Luckyguy1983 said:
The effect can be argued, but the method, standing in front of an audience and deliberately shooting your product in the foot, is as exact a parallel as you'll find in politics.Fishing said:
She didn't really "Ratner" the brand - Ratner said that their products were crap, while TMay said that some other people called the Conservatives "the nasty party" - not the same thing at all.Luckyguy1983 said:
Strangely we agree on this. I have sort of got used to her slow tempo too.MoonRabbit said:
Kemi has really improved as this year has gone on - she is now regularly besting Starmer at PMQs. She is punchy and clear in interviews and on social media - such as how she dismantled Lammy yesterday, not a tough gig though admittedly. Her vox pops and soundbites getting onto the news have been so good recently, I can imagine Kemi as a Prime Minister now.Casino_Royale said:On topic, the Conservatives have ratnered their brand: their own supporters don't trust them, and their elected representatives despise them in turn; everyone else who doesn't vote for them hates them.
I'm not sure I see a way out.
The Tories have not 'Ratnered' their brand recently. Theresa May ratnered the brand when she called them 'the nasty party'. That was a classic Ratner, and almost as damaging as the original in its own way.
Anyway, she first called them that in 2002. After that they went on to lose one general election, win four and lose one.
Compared to disasters like the Truss premiership and the current split on the Right, I don't think it had any effect whatsover.
Truss and other issues may have been disastrous or damaging, but they weren't anything to do with Ratner.0 -
Thanks for the reply. I had a serious dig into this when the story was first out last year, and the non-attendance was being blamed on cycle lane before it was actually built.dunham said:
Personally, I find this new pedestrian crossing over the busy Dunham Road very useful on the walk to my regular place of worship (not St Margaret's Church).MattW said:Oh. For F**K'S sake.
The Nobs of Altrincham all need self-driving Teslas because the installation of a short cycle track and pedestrian crossing means that none of them can find the plonking great parish church any more, so the vicar claims that 40% of them have stopped coming. Perhaps only 60% will tolerate fools gladly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1k4n2w9mygo
What's happened is that 1/3 of the parish have a new crossing so it is no longer cut off by a 10k vehicles a day road, and he has a lovely new active travel route so they can all get to his church without a quarter mile diversion to find a crossing across the bloody main road.
God save us from whining (*&^^$&*ers.
(My lovingkindness muscles are under strain, today, after three cars full of police turned up to a minor incident in the local park, whilst other people leave their cars all over the f**cking pavements with ZERO intervention.)
The previous Vicar there was a character - a biker with a Harley that he used for charity fundraising.
What they actually have (in Church of England terms) is a superb new mission / engagement opportunity - 1/3 of their parish area is the other side of the main road and has been cut off since the (estd) 1960s. And they now have a significant route in the new active travel network going past their door and people waiting outside for a minute to cross the road on the pedestrian crossing, and they are now the focus where people will come to cross.
It's crying out for a carefully designed wayside pulpit and noticeboard, and some cycle and mobility aid parking at the church. Plus it's an ideal place for inclusive cycling trials, since they have a sealed path and car park.
All the infra and organisations exist in Manchester, including grants for their cycle / mobility aid parking.
But ... no.
That's why I'm a little cross about it.1
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