ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Instant coffee, Lipton Yellow-label tea, Greene King IPA, Malort, Unicum, actual cum, nettle tea, clam juice, cold lemon soup.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
News that I think @Foxy will agree is worthy of mentioning
My niece has just received her 4th offer to study medicine at university - that is she applied to the maximum 4 universities allowed and all of them have offered her a space.
With luck she’s off to Newcastle (who want the highest grades) as there is an optional air ambulance doctor module
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Apparently Malort is terrible. There's also an eggy French drink the name of which, alas, escapes me.
And that, I think, is un oeuf for me today. See you all tomorrow.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
When you say "should not be the case", do you mean that Le Pen should not have been convicted of embezzlement, or that embezzlement should not be a bar to office?
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
Tommy Lot of Names repeatedly violates court orders to not do stuff. Such as harassing witnesses at court proceedings
The AfD have decided to verge on violating laws against extremist organisations. Laws that have been there since the founding of the republic.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Instant coffee, Lipton Yellow-label tea, Greene King IPA, Malort, Unicum, actual cum, nettle tea, clam juice, cold lemon soup.
Harsh on Green King IPA. Sure it's not a great choice these days but it got us through the endless winter of horrible keg beer until the spring of craft brewing came along.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
Out of interest. Did you think the right-wing establishment was dooming democracy when...
JFK was assassinated. Maggie prevented Republican prisoners from standing for parliament. Arthur Scargill was arrested. Boris Johnson tried to impeach Tony Blair.
I don't think there is any comparison to the situation now, when politics in the West is far more radicalised, dangerous and volatile. eg if PB had existed in 1963 I doubt we'd have had PBers morally justifying the murder of JFK, as we saw with Trump
For the purposes of clarity, this is a two sides thing. The radical right can and will, when they reach power, be equally aggressive against the Left (as we see with Trump right now)
Hence my belief that democracy is fading away, perhaps for good
When Kingsley Amis was lecturing in the US in the 1960s he had colleagues who openly threw barbecues in celebration of JFK's assassination.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
Out of interest. Did you think the right-wing establishment was dooming democracy when...
JFK was assassinated. Maggie prevented Republican prisoners from standing for parliament. Arthur Scargill was arrested. Boris Johnson tried to impeach Tony Blair.
I don't think there is any comparison to the situation now, when politics in the West is far more radicalised, dangerous and volatile. eg if PB had existed in 1963 I doubt we'd have had PBers morally justifying the murder of JFK, as we saw with Trump
For the purposes of clarity, this is a two sides thing. The radical right can and will, when they reach power, be equally aggressive against the Left (as we see with Trump right now)
Hence my belief that democracy is fading away, perhaps for good
When Kingsley Amis was lecturing in the US in the 1960s he had colleagues who openly threw barbecues in celebration of JFK's assassination.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
There is indeed a risk that if voters can't vote for parties and candidates they want to but the establishment dislike then inevitably they could turn to violence instead.
If the UK establishment had banned Corbyn and Farage from standing for Parliament for instance that would be a recipe for riots
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull.
I drank some in 2002 and never again.
You should have it with grappa (if your faith permits). I put the two together in an inspired moment in Venice in the summer of 2006. I christened the resultant cocktail a "Grapple". To make a good Grapple, mix two very large shots of grappa in a can of really cold Red Bull. Drink quickly. Both liquids taste horrible yet somehow the two horrible tastes seem to cancel each other out and it doesn't taste of much, so a Grapple just burns a bit
After two Grapples you will fight the world. My then girlfriend, in Venice, had to physically dissuade me from swimming across the Grand Canal
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
There is indeed a risk that if voters can't vote for parties and candidates they want to but the establishment dislike then inevitably they could turn to violence instead.
If the UK establishment had banned Corbyn and Farage from standing for Parliament for instance that would be a recipe for riots
True but there is a greater risk of allowing people to violate laws for political reasons.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Instant coffee, Lipton Yellow-label tea, Greene King IPA, Malort, Unicum, actual cum, nettle tea, clam juice, cold lemon soup.
Oh, I forgot one. Ten-hours-old warm dry sherry in a tumbler. Especially when you're very very hung over and mistake it for a glass of water.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
There is indeed a risk that if voters can't vote for parties and candidates they want to but the establishment dislike then inevitably they could turn to violence instead.
If the UK establishment had banned Corbyn and Farage from standing for Parliament for instance that would be a recipe for riots
There is a better UK example than that. The "2nd vote" Remain campaign. If that had succeeded, and the Remainers had managed to annull the Brexit vote without Brexit ever being enacted. I think we would have seen serious political violence across the UK. We would also have destroyed British democracy for a generation if not forever
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
Out of interest. Did you think the right-wing establishment was dooming democracy when...
JFK was assassinated. Maggie prevented Republican prisoners from standing for parliament. Arthur Scargill was arrested. Boris Johnson tried to impeach Tony Blair.
I don't think there is any comparison to the situation now, when politics in the West is far more radicalised, dangerous and volatile. eg if PB had existed in 1963 I doubt we'd have had PBers morally justifying the murder of JFK, as we saw with Trump
For the purposes of clarity, this is a two sides thing. The radical right can and will, when they reach power, be equally aggressive against the Left (as we see with Trump right now)
Hence my belief that democracy is fading away, perhaps for good
David Cameron's gerrymandering too. (Which itself was "justified" by the Conservatives' belief that Labour must be cheating.)
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
The two I remember with horror from my University days are Dryborough's Heavy and Lorimer's Best Scotch
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
The two I remember with horror from my University days are Dryborough's Heavy and Lorimer's Best Scotch
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
The two I remember with horror from my University days are Dryborough's Heavy and Lorimer's Best Scotch
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
There is indeed a risk that if voters can't vote for parties and candidates they want to but the establishment dislike then inevitably they could turn to violence instead.
If the UK establishment had banned Corbyn and Farage from standing for Parliament for instance that would be a recipe for riots
There is a better UK example than that. The "2nd vote" Remain campaign. If that had succeeded, and the Remainers had managed to annull the Brexit vote without Brexit ever being enacted. I think we would have seen serious political violence across the UK. We would also have destroyed British democracy for a generation if not forever
So we have no halo to polish, here
To an extent but we are a parliamentary representative democracy not a direct democracy. Had Labour and the LDs and SNP won a majority in 2019 at the general election for an EUref2 that would have been legitimate.
Instead Boris won a majority for the Conservatives with a commitment to deliver Brexit, it was that majority which got Brexit done, not the 2016 Leave win
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
The two I remember with horror from my University days are Dryborough's Heavy and Lorimer's Best Scotch
What did Lorimer's Worst taste like ?
I think the Heavy was actually made by the same brewery, and was the worse of the two
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
Out of interest. Did you think the right-wing establishment was dooming democracy when...
JFK was assassinated. Maggie prevented Republican prisoners from standing for parliament. Arthur Scargill was arrested. Boris Johnson tried to impeach Tony Blair.
I don't think there is any comparison to the situation now, when politics in the West is far more radicalised, dangerous and volatile. eg if PB had existed in 1963 I doubt we'd have had PBers morally justifying the murder of JFK, as we saw with Trump
For the purposes of clarity, this is a two sides thing. The radical right can and will, when they reach power, be equally aggressive against the Left (as we see with Trump right now)
Hence my belief that democracy is fading away, perhaps for good
David Cameron's gerrymandering too. (Which itself was "justified" by the Conservatives' belief that Labour must be cheating.)
My father used to drink a concoction of "slippery elm" for dubious health reasons.
It tasted as disgusting as it sounds.
There is definitely a correlation between drinks that taste horrible and drinks that are "meant to be good for you". ie the worse something tastes, the more medicinal and efficacious we believe it to be. A strange psychological phenomenon. eg I don't think I've ever had nice spa water - it's nearly always mineral or salty or disgusting in some way, but you are encouraged to down litres of the stuff
Then all the health-giving herbal liqueurs, Riga Balsam. Jagermeister. Nasty stuff
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
There is indeed a risk that if voters can't vote for parties and candidates they want to but the establishment dislike then inevitably they could turn to violence instead.
If the UK establishment had banned Corbyn and Farage from standing for Parliament for instance that would be a recipe for riots
True but there is a greater risk of allowing people to violate laws for political reasons.
As long as the laws are not created to block people the establishment dislike from being in Parliament
Serious point though - how does the solar power that's fed in to the grid overnight having been stored at generation site batteries get counted?
There's a section for stored energy generation. We don't have a lot of battery storage though. Solar is still, despite what Robert might say, not viable in the UK. We just need to dump £20bn into the RR modular nuclear reactors and get them started up with a manufacturing pilot line and the first few reactors built and running by 2030. If we approve it and get RR started today we might make it but the government moves like molasses and our tech leadership is slipping away without that big order and backing for RR from the UK.
As a side note I was speaking to an energy investor here in Florence today and he confirmed what I already suspected that RR and other UK companies struggle to get overseas money because they don't have the UK government vote of confidence. It's difficult to get foreign governments to buy something that its own one seems uninterested in and he was saying that's the resistance RR are running into when they make their sales pitch "if it's as good as you say then why is your own government not already placing an order for 10 of these and looking at an American solution instead?" is the question they can't answer.
Are we actually looking at an American solution? Wtf?
We should absolutely look at an American solution as part of a thorough assessment
The issue is that the treasury scoring method puts zero weight on the strategic value of domestic capabilities
Which is frankly insane.
How do they weight the potential economic value of kickstarting a domestic manufacturer ? Or is that also ignored ?
In 2008 Sheffield Forge Masters had a £150 million loan guarantee arranged to buy a BFO press to create pressure vessels for small medium reactors. That would have meant that we could have a domestic nuclear power industry.
The coalition government of 2010 cancelled that loan guarantee and there was no chance whatsoever of Westinghouse starting to build in this country.
Nick Clegg was a Sheffield MP. He must’ve known the costs nationally and locally to us and our industry and yet he still accepted that as part of the coalition agreement.
Sometimes it’s very hard not to despise people and politics.
I doubt Nick Clegg ever gave a toss about Sheffield before, during or after he was an MP.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
There is indeed a risk that if voters can't vote for parties and candidates they want to but the establishment dislike then inevitably they could turn to violence instead.
If the UK establishment had banned Corbyn and Farage from standing for Parliament for instance that would be a recipe for riots
There is a better UK example than that. The "2nd vote" Remain campaign. If that had succeeded, and the Remainers had managed to annull the Brexit vote without Brexit ever being enacted. I think we would have seen serious political violence across the UK. We would also have destroyed British democracy for a generation if not forever
So we have no halo to polish, here
To an extent but we are a parliamentary representative democracy not a direct democracy. Had Labour and the LDs and SNP won a majority in 2019 at the general election for an EUref2 that would have been legitimate.
Instead Boris won a majority for the Conservatives with a commitment to deliver Brexit, it was that majority which got Brexit done, not the 2016 Leave win
Yes, if you believe in the supremacy of parliament, which has been the unpinning of British democracy for centuries, then Leon's argument simply crumbles to dust.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
My father used to drink a concoction of "slippery elm" for dubious health reasons.
It tasted as disgusting as it sounds.
There is definitely a correlation between drinks that taste horrible and drinks that are "meant to be good for you". ie the worse something tastes, the more medicinal and efficacious we believe it to be. A strange psychological phenomenon. eg I don;t think I've ever had nice spa water - it's nearly always mineral or salty or disgusting in some way, but you are encouraged to down litres of the stuff
Then all the healgt-giving herbal liqueurs, Riga Balsam. Jagermeister.Nasty stuff
On the other hand calpol tastes great as a drink, with either vodka or brandy.
Go for the infant version so the paracetamol loading isn’t dangerous.
Voters consistently say issues like the economy and reproductive rights are their top concerns in this election. But in the closing weeks of the campaign, Republican ads focusing on transgender rights are dominating airwaves all over the country.
My father used to drink a concoction of "slippery elm" for dubious health reasons.
It tasted as disgusting as it sounds.
There is definitely a correlation between drinks that taste horrible and drinks that are "meant to be good for you". ie the worse something tastes, the more medicinal and efficacious we believe it to be. A strange psychological phenomenon. eg I don;t think I've ever had nice spa water - it's nearly always mineral or salty or disgusting in some way, but you are encouraged to down litres of the stuff
Then all the healgt-giving herbal liqueurs, Riga Balsam. Jagermeister.Nasty stuff
The Gazette's resident ad-man Rory Wossname has remarked on this: Red Bull tastes disgusting; diet soft drinks need to taste less sweet.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
But not as bad as Tennents.
Available as an exotic import (now with added tariff) in Pennsylvania state beer stores
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
The two I remember with horror from my University days are Dryborough's Heavy and Lorimer's Best Scotch
Trent Bitter.
Foul
Watneys Starlight, Red and Red Barrel were all awful.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
What's the one that tastes like - aniseed, is it? That was horrible.
My father used to drink a concoction of "slippery elm" for dubious health reasons.
It tasted as disgusting as it sounds.
There is definitely a correlation between drinks that taste horrible and drinks that are "meant to be good for you". ie the worse something tastes, the more medicinal and efficacious we believe it to be. A strange psychological phenomenon. eg I don't think I've ever had nice spa water - it's nearly always mineral or salty or disgusting in some way, but you are encouraged to down litres of the stuff
Then all the health-giving herbal liqueurs, Riga Balsam. Jagermeister. Nasty stuff
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
Bud Light
Yak butter tea isn't my cup of tea.
I've been asking my well-travelled journalistic colleagues out here in Uzbekistan for their examples of terrible drinks
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
Out of interest. Did you think the right-wing establishment was dooming democracy when...
JFK was assassinated. Maggie prevented Republican prisoners from standing for parliament. Arthur Scargill was arrested. Boris Johnson tried to impeach Tony Blair.
I don't think there is any comparison to the situation now, when politics in the West is far more radicalised, dangerous and volatile. eg if PB had existed in 1963 I doubt we'd have had PBers morally justifying the murder of JFK, as we saw with Trump
For the purposes of clarity, this is a two sides thing. The radical right can and will, when they reach power, be equally aggressive against the Left (as we see with Trump right now)
Hence my belief that democracy is fading away, perhaps for good
David Cameron's gerrymandering too. (Which itself was "justified" by the Conservatives' belief that Labour must be cheating.)
What?
The Cameron/Osborne (or probably some uncredited CCHQ SpAd) scheme for gerrymandering, later adopted by American Republicans.
Purge the rolls and make it harder to register – this has the effect of making Labour areas look less populated
Reduce the number of seats so every constituency has to be redrawn
Result – proportionally more seats in Tory regions; fewer in Labour areas
Ironically, getting rid of younger and more globalist voters came back to bite Cameron in EUref, effectively ending his career. Karma's a bitch.
My father used to drink a concoction of "slippery elm" for dubious health reasons.
It tasted as disgusting as it sounds.
There is definitely a correlation between drinks that taste horrible and drinks that are "meant to be good for you". ie the worse something tastes, the more medicinal and efficacious we believe it to be. A strange psychological phenomenon. eg I don't think I've ever had nice spa water - it's nearly always mineral or salty or disgusting in some way, but you are encouraged to down litres of the stuff
Then all the health-giving herbal liqueurs, Riga Balsam. Jagermeister. Nasty stuff
This might be controversial but I don't find Trump's desire to run for a third term particularly outrageous. The twenty second amendment is pretty new in constitutional terms and was arguably only introduced because of Republican anger at FDR. What would be outrageous is if Trump achieved this by just ignoring the constitution or pressuring the Supreme Court to set the amendment aside.
Yes, but that's the point. The proper way for Trump to seek a third term would be to amend the US constitution to repeal the 22nd Amendment - but that's difficult to do unless he can manipulate Congress so as to achieve a two-thirds majority (the states might be easier - there is an exploitable loophole there).
He won't though. His style, both in business and politics, is to push ahead irrespective of the law and challenge others to come against him. And given that there is sufficient wriggle room in the constitution under the 25th Amendment for the Electoral College to 'elect' a president who doesn't qualify, there's certainly scope for the SCOTUS to rule that states should not prevent such candidates from being denied access to the ballot on those grounds.
There isn't really any scope though, unless the supreme court decides to ignore the clear intention of the 22nd amendment using transparently dodgy sophistry. At which point the whole constitution is up for grabs.
They have already said the President is effectively above the law using transparently dodgy sophistry, so who knows what they’ll say next.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
The two I remember with horror from my University days are Dryborough's Heavy and Lorimer's Best Scotch
Trent Bitter.
Foul
Watneys Starlight, Red and Red Barrel were all awful.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
The two I remember with horror from my University days are Dryborough's Heavy and Lorimer's Best Scotch
Trent Bitter.
Foul
Watneys Starlight, Red and Red Barrel were all awful.
Webster's Yorkshire Bitter.
My heart used to sink if I walked into a pub and that was the only ale on a hand pull.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
Bud Light
Yak butter tea isn't my cup of tea.
I've been asking my well-travelled journalistic colleagues out here in Uzbekistan for their examples of terrible drinks
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
Sounds foul. Local Greek wine is usually undrinkable, especially if accompanied by the dreaded words 'we produce it ourselves from grapes from our own vineyards'. If you hear this in Greece tell them that you are on antibiotics and aren't allowed to drink alcohol, or you have a grape allergy, or you have recently converted to Islam,
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
The two I remember with horror from my University days are Dryborough's Heavy and Lorimer's Best Scotch
Trent Bitter.
Foul
Watneys Starlight, Red and Red Barrel were all awful.
Just noting FPT that Lord Sumption has apparently come out in favour of Letby being perhaps innocent, though the report in the Mail is extremely thin and adds nothing of substance to the story, though Sumption is one of the weightiest figure in the law.
FWIW, though I think the case against Letby is sound, I think there is going to be enough for the CCRC to refer the verdicts back to the Court of Appeal.
That's the easy bit. There is a very recent example of how the CA deals with CCRC referrals, from a case where the evidence is very thin indeed and where there was apparent grounds that a 'cell confession' (a notorious field) had been retracted by the unreliable criminal alleging it had been made.
The CA carved through it with an interesting mix of scalpel and bulldozer, upholding the conviction. Not for the faint hearted it is here:
Compared with this the case against Letby is strong.
I have no idea on the Letby case (guilt is deterministic not statistical and statistical evidence should not be sufficient for a guilty verdict) but "Supreme Judge has an reckon because some of the people he knows has a reckon" has exactly the same status as "bloke down the pub said so". Sumption is far too keen on talking to the press.
The evidence against Letby -- which was presented over 26 weeks, which shows how much there was and how much it was scrutinised -- was not purely statistical.
I wasn't at the trial but SFAICS no expert statistical evidence was called; it didn't enter into the trial (correct me if I am wrong).
It is not statistical evidence to say that occurrences XYZABCDEFG occurred when person A was present on each occasion. It is factual evidence.
Statistical evidence is when a DNA sample is found at location X, and an expert says there is a 1 in Y chance of it belonging/not belonging to person Z.
Thats playing fast and loose with how the evidence was used. If you say "XYZABCDEFG occurred when person A" - how likely was that? Then you are using the public's perception of statistics.
Don’t all trials involve saying something along the lines of “how likely was that”? That’s how trials work.
I was on a jury trial once, in a murder case. We were shown various lines of evidence, including (grainy) CCTV footage of the accused or someone very similar looking going towards where the murder was convicted and, shortly after, running away from the scene. That’s circumstantial evidence: there was no video of the murder. We were asked how likely was that. How likely was it that someone very similar looking and dressed the same would’ve have been in the recording? How likely was it that the accused was the man in the footage? How likely was it, if he was the man in the footage, that he had committed the murder?
I think that's fair. As I understand it, one (and yes there was a lot of other evidence) of the strands of evidence against her is the chart of who was on duty when incidents happened. There is a contention for some that this chart may be flawed - people started to suspect Letby, then looked at deaths/incidents when she was there and then generated the table. Its certain that other deaths/incidents occurred at the unit when she was not there, but these were deemed not to be suspicious.
I have no idea if she is guilty or not, or if even babies were murdered or harmed or not. I didn't sit through the trial. I suspect there will be an appeal/re-trial at some point. I have no idea how that will go.
I am very conscious that previous miscarriages of justice have happened, so any asserting with supreme confidence that she is guilty (other than in the legally correct form - i.e. she was found guilty in court) is, in my opinion, probably slightly too confident in the infallability of our legal system.
The table in question, IIRC, was generated by an expert witness. He identified which were the unexpected deaths first, before knowing which Letby was on shift for. Then the table was done of whether Letby was on shift for those cases. The defence, AIUI, did not object to this methodology.
The trial was about 10 months long. Very few people sat through it all! Certainly nearly all of those arguing for her innocence now didn’t.
There has now been two trials and, I think, 4 appeals. We await the decision of the CCRC, whether they will throw it back to the appeals court to re-consider.
City of London residents have called for an independent inquiry into why 14 of the Square Mile's 25 wards were uncontested in the recent elections. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d4dgx523ro
But I oppose them. They are unnecessary and deeply anti-democratic - there is already a mechanism called "elections" which limits a politician's term as head of state. And if the American people are idiotic enough to want Trump for another term, they should be allowed that option.
It is comforting to think that it would be very difficult, if not impossible, for this particular incumbent to run again though.
While I broadly agree with you (that term limits are anti-democratic), I think the argument for them is that the presidency is such a powerful and honoured position, that extensive time in the role also has an anti-democratic effect and presidential term limits serve as another check or balance. Now the Supreme Court has given the president almost unlimited power, that argument is stronger.
That was precisely why they were brought in, by a Republican Party which saw Roosevelt as accreting executive power which threatened the constitutional balance. Trump has taken executive power well beyond anything Roosevelt tried. Even Roosevelt's threat to expand the Supreme Court (which came to nothing in the end) is something the GOP has now echoed,
It has been an issue since the Constitution was first drafted. Roosevelt's fourth term brought it to a head.
Washington (very wisely) not seeking a third term established an expectation that it was a good thing for presidents not to do more than two. And no one did until Roosevelt.
Washington didn't seek a third term because he was worn out. To the extent that he set a precedent, it was driven more by making a virtue out of a preference than any hard principle and never completely set into one. Grant considered running for a third term in 1876 but unpopularity with his administration ruled him out. The same applied to Cleveland in 1896. Theodore Roosevelt did run for a third term in 1912 (albeit only a second elected one). Wilson considered running in 1920, despite being stricken by a stroke. Coolidge was widely expected to run for a third term in 1928 (although also only a second elected one), before unexpectedly ruling himself out.
Chance or preference prevented third-term presidencies before FDR but not any widespread sense that such candidatures were morally illegitimate.
The idea that presidents should only do 2 terms was well established. But, indeed, not everyone agreed with it. The point is that the term limit amendment wasn’t plucked out of thin air.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
Bud Light
Yak butter tea isn't my cup of tea.
I've been asking my well-travelled journalistic colleagues out here in Uzbekistan for their examples of terrible drinks
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
Sounds foul. Local Greek wine is usually undrinkable, especially if accompanied by the dreaded words 'we produce it ourselves from grapes from our own vineyards'. If you hear this in Greece tell them that you are on antibiotics and aren't allowed to drink alcohol, or you have a grape allergy, or you have recently converted to Islam,
You're probably talking about retsina, which is an acquired taste.
City of London residents have called for an independent inquiry into why 14 of the Square Mile's 25 wards were uncontested in the recent elections. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d4dgx523ro
I am not particularly keen on the courts having power to bar people from office (that in and of itself places the judiciary in a rather powerful position) but at the same time I don’t think it’s an affront to democracy to have a mechanism to bar people. I’d rather it was a combined system like a court ruling + a supermajority vote of the legislature or similar. For instance, I think the Senate could and should have had the power to strip Trump from his ability to run (power which they had but ultimately didn’t exercise).
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
And the UK government changed the law so it wouldn’t happen again.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull.
I drank some in 2002 and never again.
I quite like Red Bull, and its survival over umpteen years suggests there are lots of us. Some criteria other than popularity would be useful...
Serious point though - how does the solar power that's fed in to the grid overnight having been stored at generation site batteries get counted?
There's a section for stored energy generation. We don't have a lot of battery storage though. Solar is still, despite what Robert might say, not viable in the UK. We just need to dump £20bn into the RR modular nuclear reactors and get them started up with a manufacturing pilot line and the first few reactors built and running by 2030. If we approve it and get RR started today we might make it but the government moves like molasses and our tech leadership is slipping away without that big order and backing for RR from the UK.
As a side note I was speaking to an energy investor here in Florence today and he confirmed what I already suspected that RR and other UK companies struggle to get overseas money because they don't have the UK government vote of confidence. It's difficult to get foreign governments to buy something that its own one seems uninterested in and he was saying that's the resistance RR are running into when they make their sales pitch "if it's as good as you say then why is your own government not already placing an order for 10 of these and looking at an American solution instead?" is the question they can't answer.
Are we actually looking at an American solution? Wtf?
We should absolutely look at an American solution as part of a thorough assessment
The issue is that the treasury scoring method puts zero weight on the strategic value of domestic capabilities
Which is frankly insane.
How do they weight the potential economic value of kickstarting a domestic manufacturer ? Or is that also ignored ?
In 2008 Sheffield Forge Masters had a £150 million loan guarantee arranged to buy a BFO press to create pressure vessels for small medium reactors. That would have meant that we could have a domestic nuclear power industry.
The coalition government of 2010 cancelled that loan guarantee and there was no chance whatsoever of Westinghouse starting to build in this country.
Nick Clegg was a Sheffield MP. He must’ve known the costs nationally and locally to us and our industry and yet he still accepted that as part of the coalition agreement.
Sometimes it’s very hard not to despise people and politics.
I doubt Nick Clegg ever gave a toss about Sheffield before, during or after he was an MP.
He has donated significant funds to the Sheffield Hallam LDs since ceasing to be an MP.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull.
I drank some in 2002 and never again.
I quite like Red Bull, and its survival over umpteen years suggests there are lots of us. Some criteria other than popularity would be useful...
I used to hate Red Bull. But then I met my ex, who was friends with the Scottish distributor of Red Bull. Every time we went up to Edinburgh, we would come back down to Cambridge with the car boot stuffed full of free Red Bull. I sorta got used to it then.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Instant coffee, Lipton Yellow-label tea, Greene King IPA, Malort, Unicum, actual cum, nettle tea, clam juice, cold lemon soup.
Harsh on Green King IPA. Sure it's not a great choice these days but it got us through the endless winter of horrible keg beer until the spring of craft brewing came along.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
It's one take. Alternately: 1. SYL knew what the law was, choose to break it publicly, received the sentence set out by law 2. AfD aren't banned, just had a great election result but like any Germans have to obey the law 3. Trump's shooters are always republicans... 4. Orban is in breech of EU rules which he is choosing to ignore 5. You missed out the case of the Romanian guy whose campaign was funded by Russia and thus banned
Whilst I take the point about lawfare being bad, it almost always isn't "lawfare", its just "law" which the various right wing politicians want to ignore because its inconvenient. Someone mentioned Phil "Whoops" Woolas earlier, a perfect example of two things. That the law isn't politically biased as you claim, and that people dislike being told how to vote as you are implying is the aim of the left.
SYL’s sentencing also reflects that he’s a repeat offender, with prior sentences for violent offences. Right wingers are usually keen on being tough on violent repeat offenders, but seem to forget about that when talking about Tommeh.
The header is about an autocratic takeover of the US by Trump, but Le Pen, Georgescu and Bolsanaro are three characters banned from running for office by their relevant authorities most recently. All suspected of and convicted of various crimes by their courts, all right-wingers. This to my mind should not be the case. Anti-H block ran imprisoned candidates in Ireland in 1981.
Tommy Robinson is in prison for a peculiarly long time. The Germans are close to banning the AfD. Trump came within 2cm of being shot dead (and that's when they weren't using lawfare against him). Orban is being atacked by the EU. And so on and so forth. Now, you can justify each of these cases individually, you can argue Trump's almost-killer was a loner (unlikely, to my mind, but whatever) - the point is there certainly appears to be a pattern of dubious leftwing-Establishment action against the radical/pooulist right; the law is being bent to prevent them reaching power, and maybe bullets too
Perhaps it is justified? Several PBers have openly admitted disappointment that Trump wasn't killed, as they see his death as morally preferable to his being in power
Either way, we should view this for what it is. Democracy is in brisk retreat (I believe it is doomed) and the two sides are amorally using the law against each other, and soon they will be using violence
There is indeed a risk that if voters can't vote for parties and candidates they want to but the establishment dislike then inevitably they could turn to violence instead.
If the UK establishment had banned Corbyn and Farage from standing for Parliament for instance that would be a recipe for riots
True but there is a greater risk of allowing people to violate laws for political reasons.
As long as the laws are not created to block people the establishment dislike from being in Parliament
If you can find me an example where that is the case then I'd agree but I haven't seen it. Tommy Robinson was imprisoned for contempt of court and Le Pen for embezzlement. These are long established laws that aren't specifically targeted at politicians.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
Bud Light
Yak butter tea isn't my cup of tea.
I've been asking my well-travelled journalistic colleagues out here in Uzbekistan for their examples of terrible drinks
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
Sounds foul. Local Greek wine is usually undrinkable, especially if accompanied by the dreaded words 'we produce it ourselves from grapes from our own vineyards'. If you hear this in Greece tell them that you are on antibiotics and aren't allowed to drink alcohol, or you have a grape allergy, or you have recently converted to Islam,
When I was doing Pharmacology, part of my Pharmaceutical Chemist Diploma, back around 1960, we were lectured to by someone from Newcastle Medical School who assured us that the reason one was discouraged from drinking alcohol while on antibiotics was because soldiers in France around 1944 would catch VD during local 'rest and recreation' and be treated with penicillin. They'd feel better and go straight back to their former places of entertainment. If they were told not to drink alcohol they wouldn't. That's about the only thing I recall from those lectures.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig (/Lagavulin), if you’re not in the right mood for it.
Are we doing ghastly tipples? Has anyone mentioned oat milk? I haven't actually tasted it, due to its resemblance to bulls' semen, but I fear the worst.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig, if you’re not in the right mood for it.
There’s a drink that has the word ‘cum’ in its name?
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
But not as bad as Tennents.
Someone I was at school with used to drink what he called purple nasties
a pint of snake bite made out of special brew and hard scrumpy with blackcurrent cordial and a shot of pernod and a shot of baileys added.....it curdled in the glass and a straw would stand upright in it
News that I think @Foxy will agree is worthy of mentioning
My niece has just received her 4th offer to study medicine at university - that is she applied to the maximum 4 universities allowed and all of them have offered her a space.
With luck she’s off to Newcastle (who want the highest grades) as there is an optional air ambulance doctor module
Someone who knows these things told me the favourite Universities for a social life are Manchester Newcastle and Edinburgh but that's a few years ago so might be out of date.
Does this mean that niece will be the candidate? She's proper scary.
Wasn’t there a falling out with the Le Pen niece?
A Pen without ink.....
Good ol’ Wikipedia. She’s more far right than Marine. She supported Jean-Marie, her grandfather, when Marine had him expelled from the party. She ended up in Reconquête, Zemmour’s party, and supported him over Marine in the 2022 presidential election. She became a Reconquête MEP, but got chucked out of the party by calling for people to vote RN (Marine’s party) in the 2024 legislative election after a rapprochement with Marine. She then joined the ECR group in the European Parliament. You remember, the group David Cameron co-founded. She now leads a relatively new French party, Identity–Liberties, which is close to RN.
News that I think @Foxy will agree is worthy of mentioning
My niece has just received her 4th offer to study medicine at university - that is she applied to the maximum 4 universities allowed and all of them have offered her a space.
With luck she’s off to Newcastle (who want the highest grades) as there is an optional air ambulance doctor module
Someone who knows these things told me the favourite Universities for a social life are Manchester Newcastle and Edinburgh but that's a few years ago so might be out of date.
Grandson II didn't do so well for social life at Manchester. To be fair, graduated last year, so some of his time was Covid restricted. Seemed a shame.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig, if you’re not in the right mood for it.
There’s a drink that has the word ‘cum’ in its name?
Oh my days.
This is going to amuse me for literally years.
If you haven’t come across it, it’s probably the worst tasting thing that so far you haven’t tasted
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
Bud Light
Yak butter tea isn't my cup of tea.
I've been asking my well-travelled journalistic colleagues out here in Uzbekistan for their examples of terrible drinks
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
Sounds foul. Local Greek wine is usually undrinkable, especially if accompanied by the dreaded words 'we produce it ourselves from grapes from our own vineyards'. If you hear this in Greece tell them that you are on antibiotics and aren't allowed to drink alcohol, or you have a grape allergy, or you have recently converted to Islam,
When I was doing Pharmacology, part of my Pharmaceutical Chemist Diploma, back around 1960, we were lectured to by someone from Newcastle Medical School who assured us that the reason one was discouraged from drinking alcohol while on antibiotics was because soldiers in France around 1944 would catch VD during local 'rest and recreation' and be treated with penicillin. They'd feel better and go straight back to their former places of entertainment. If they were told not to drink alcohol they wouldn't. That's about the only thing I recall from those lectures.
As I understand it, there are only a couple of antibiotics you can't take with alcohol and they are used mainly for dental infections and have quite a violent reaction. I think metronidazole is one.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig, if you’re not in the right mood for it.
There’s a drink that has the word ‘cum’ in its name?
Oh my days.
This is going to amuse me for literally years.
If you haven’t come across it, it’s probably the worst tasting thing that so far you haven’t tasted
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig, if you’re not in the right mood for it.
There’s a drink that has the word ‘cum’ in its name?
Oh my days.
This is going to amuse me for literally years.
If you haven’t come across it, it’s probably the worst tasting thing that so far you haven’t tasted
As the promotional says, “ Unicum is ideal for whetting your appetite before a meal”….because after a sip of Unicum you will be desperate for some food to take the taste of it away.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
Bud Light
Yak butter tea isn't my cup of tea.
I've been asking my well-travelled journalistic colleagues out here in Uzbekistan for their examples of terrible drinks
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
Sounds foul. Local Greek wine is usually undrinkable, especially if accompanied by the dreaded words 'we produce it ourselves from grapes from our own vineyards'. If you hear this in Greece tell them that you are on antibiotics and aren't allowed to drink alcohol, or you have a grape allergy, or you have recently converted to Islam,
When I was doing Pharmacology, part of my Pharmaceutical Chemist Diploma, back around 1960, we were lectured to by someone from Newcastle Medical School who assured us that the reason one was discouraged from drinking alcohol while on antibiotics was because soldiers in France around 1944 would catch VD during local 'rest and recreation' and be treated with penicillin. They'd feel better and go straight back to their former places of entertainment. If they were told not to drink alcohol they wouldn't. That's about the only thing I recall from those lectures.
As I understand it, there are only a couple of antibiotics you can't take with alcohol and they are used mainly for dental infections and have quite a violent reaction. I think metronidazole is one.
Yes; came across someone who had a really violent reaction to metronidazole. To be fair to the drug, they'd been out celebrating their return from an unpleasant tour of duty withe Army overseas.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
Bud Light
Yak butter tea isn't my cup of tea.
I've been asking my well-travelled journalistic colleagues out here in Uzbekistan for their examples of terrible drinks
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
Sounds foul. Local Greek wine is usually undrinkable, especially if accompanied by the dreaded words 'we produce it ourselves from grapes from our own vineyards'. If you hear this in Greece tell them that you are on antibiotics and aren't allowed to drink alcohol, or you have a grape allergy, or you have recently converted to Islam,
When I was doing Pharmacology, part of my Pharmaceutical Chemist Diploma, back around 1960, we were lectured to by someone from Newcastle Medical School who assured us that the reason one was discouraged from drinking alcohol while on antibiotics was because soldiers in France around 1944 would catch VD during local 'rest and recreation' and be treated with penicillin. They'd feel better and go straight back to their former places of entertainment. If they were told not to drink alcohol they wouldn't. That's about the only thing I recall from those lectures.
As I understand it, there are only a couple of antibiotics you can't take with alcohol and they are used mainly for dental infections and have quite a violent reaction. I think metronidazole is one.
Metronidazole acts like disulfiram, which is branded as Antabuse as an anti-alcoholism drug. It blocks the breakdown of acetaldehyde, into which ethanol is converted in the body. The resultant build up of acetaldehyde after drinking is very unpleasant, like the worst hangover but straight away.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig (/Lagavulin), if you’re not in the right mood for it.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig (/Lagavulin), if you’re not in the right mood for it.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig, if you’re not in the right mood for it.
There’s a drink that has the word ‘cum’ in its name?
Oh my days.
This is going to amuse me for literally years.
If you haven’t come across it, it’s probably the worst tasting thing that so far you haven’t tasted
Hard to beat a few of the agricultural rums out of the Caribbean for grimness. We used to call them, to express their vile taste, as “fish milkshake” and they would be drunk in shots with everyone sitting around a bucket so you could vom without leaving your seat such was the body’s reaction.
"Toddler kicked out of nursery for being transphobic Child suspended from state school for ‘abuse against sexual orientation and gender identity’, Department for Education data show" (£)
Paywalled, so I cannot read the article, but the actual headline is different:
"A toddler was suspended from nursery after being accused of being transphobic or homophobic, The Telegraph can reveal..."
Note the "or homophobic".
Without reading the article, I see several questions: *) Should toddlers be suspended from nursery/school for bad behaviour? *) Can 'bad behaviour' be classed as homophobic or transphobic comments? *) How many comments should be the trigger?
Handy tip: for the Telegraph, and some other sites. When you get a paywall message, if you click on "reader mode" in the address bar (often a page icon) then change to another page, and then hit "back" on your browser - it'll normally let you read it.
I emailed the editor of the Spectator about 5 years ago alerting him to this cheat. His team must have fixed it shortly afterwards. He didn't given me a free subscription though, which was a bit annoying.
"Toddler kicked out of nursery for being transphobic Child suspended from state school for ‘abuse against sexual orientation and gender identity’, Department for Education data show" (£)
Paywalled, so I cannot read the article, but the actual headline is different:
"A toddler was suspended from nursery after being accused of being transphobic or homophobic, The Telegraph can reveal..."
Note the "or homophobic".
Without reading the article, I see several questions: *) Should toddlers be suspended from nursery/school for bad behaviour? *) Can 'bad behaviour' be classed as homophobic or transphobic comments? *) How many comments should be the trigger?
Handy tip: for the Telegraph, and some other sites. When you get a paywall message, if you click on "reader mode" in the address bar (often a page icon) then change to another page, and then hit "back" on your browser - it'll normally let you read it.
I emailed the editor of the Spectator about 5 years ago alerting him to this cheat. His team must have fixed it shortly afterwards. He didn't given me a free subscription though, which was a bit annoying.
So you just spoiled it for the rest of us?
Not that missing out on the journalistic bilge that discredited rag publishes nowadays is really losing out.
News that I think @Foxy will agree is worthy of mentioning
My niece has just received her 4th offer to study medicine at university - that is she applied to the maximum 4 universities allowed and all of them have offered her a space.
With luck she’s off to Newcastle (who want the highest grades) as there is an optional air ambulance doctor module
Someone who knows these things told me the favourite Universities for a social life are Manchester Newcastle and Edinburgh but that's a few years ago so might be out of date.
Grandson II didn't do so well for social life at Manchester. To be fair, graduated last year, so some of his time was Covid restricted. Seemed a shame.
You are telling someone who did their degree in Newcastle and got a Desmond partly because of said nightlife
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Instant coffee, Lipton Yellow-label tea, Greene King IPA, Malort, Unicum, actual cum, nettle tea, clam juice, cold lemon soup.
Harsh on Green King IPA. Sure it's not a great choice these days but it got us through the endless winter of horrible keg beer until the spring of craft brewing came along.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
Unicum
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig, if you’re not in the right mood for it.
There’s a drink that has the word ‘cum’ in its name?
Oh my days.
This is going to amuse me for literally years.
If you haven’t come across it, it’s probably the worst tasting thing that so far you haven’t tasted
As the promotional says, “ Unicum is ideal for whetting your appetite before a meal”….because after a sip of Unicum you will be desperate for some food to take the taste of it away.
Is it true that vegetarian men have better tasting cum?
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
Red Bull, of course.
Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
What's the one that tastes like - aniseed, is it? That was horrible.
Pernod (or anise). Tastes awful, except in high summer when it is for, some reason, delicious.
ON topic, can anyone think of some seriously horrible drinks?
I am compiling a list, for a project, of the world's worst beverages. They don't have to be alcoholic. eg a friend has just told me of "Franz Josef Bitter Water" which is apparently the world's most disgusting water
McEwans Lager, weak and horrible tasting. It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
Stone's tinned bitter, if they still make it.
Bud Light
Yak butter tea isn't my cup of tea.
I've been asking my well-travelled journalistic colleagues out here in Uzbekistan for their examples of terrible drinks
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
I once had a cucumber gin, which wasn't the estimable Hendrick's. Very nasty indeed.
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Most orange liqueurs. Far too sweet.
Limoncello; tastes chemical.
Fernet Branca.
Most US soft drinks.
WKD.
I drank some in 2002 and never again.
'Where patriotism begins'
'We have stood strong against invaders and threats for centuries'
'Leading with British values'
https://x.com/MikeTappTweets/status/1906414149812301996
My niece has just received her 4th offer to study medicine at university - that is she applied to the maximum 4 universities allowed and all of them have offered her a space.
With luck she’s off to Newcastle (who want the highest grades) as there is an optional air ambulance doctor module
And that, I think, is un oeuf for me today. See you all tomorrow.
The AfD have decided to verge on violating laws against extremist organisations. Laws that have been there since the founding of the republic.
If the UK establishment had banned Corbyn and Farage from standing for Parliament for instance that would be a recipe for riots
It keeps dying and then returning, currently deceased I think.
WORSE THAN CARLING!
After two Grapples you will fight the world. My then girlfriend, in Venice, had to physically dissuade me from swimming across the Grand Canal
So we have no halo to polish, here
"If we had voted it would have been the end of democracy!"
Do you ever stop and realise just how fucking insane that entire sentence is?
It tasted as disgusting as it sounds.
Foul
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/31/clean-energy-spending-republicans-trump
Yet Harris didn't think it was worth campaigning on.
Now Harris is a liberal lawyer from California so banging on about abortion and trans rights was her comfort zone.
But didn't the Dem establishment have anyone with the experience or empathy to realise where and what to campaign on ?
Did the Dems really learn nothing from Hilary's failed campaign in 2016 ?
Instead Boris won a majority for the Conservatives with a commitment to deliver Brexit, it was that majority which got Brexit done, not the 2016 Leave win
Then all the health-giving herbal liqueurs, Riga Balsam. Jagermeister. Nasty stuff
Go for the infant version so the paracetamol loading isn’t dangerous.
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/19/g-s1-28932/donald-trump-transgender-ads-kamala-harris
Voters consistently say issues like the economy and reproductive rights are their top concerns in this election. But in the closing weeks of the campaign, Republican ads focusing on transgender rights are dominating airwaves all over the country.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/kamala-harris-trans-rights-platform/
Harris has been virtually silent on trans rights
https://pennbeer.com/brand/tennents/?verified=true
One mentioned "truffle gin", which does indeed sound repulsive. Gin flavoured with truffle???? Eeek
But apparently camel milk is OK. "Gamey golden top" was the description
- Purge the rolls and make it harder to register – this has the effect of making Labour areas look less populated
- Reduce the number of seats so every constituency has to be redrawn
- Result – proportionally more seats in Tory regions; fewer in Labour areas
Ironically, getting rid of younger and more globalist voters came back to bite Cameron in EUref, effectively ending his career. Karma's a bitch.My heart used to sink if I walked into a pub and that was the only ale on a hand pull.
The trial was about 10 months long. Very few people sat through it all! Certainly nearly all of those arguing for her innocence now didn’t.
There has now been two trials and, I think, 4 appeals. We await the decision of the CCRC, whether they will throw it back to the appeals court to re-consider.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d4dgx523ro
I am not particularly keen on the courts having power to bar people from office (that in and of itself places the judiciary in a rather powerful position) but at the same time I don’t think it’s an affront to democracy to have a mechanism to bar people. I’d rather it was a combined system like a court ruling + a supermajority vote of the legislature or similar. For instance, I think the Senate could and should have had the power to strip Trump from his ability to run (power which they had but ultimately didn’t exercise).
https://sensorstechforum.com/sundown-vulnerabilities-threaten-solar-power-systems/
That's about the only thing I recall from those lectures.
And that dreadful digestif that the Italians make out of artichokes
Limoncello; Tesco economy air freshener in a bottle
And Laphroaig (/Lagavulin), if you’re not in the right mood for it.
Oh my days.
This is going to amuse me for literally years.
a pint of snake bite made out of special brew and hard scrumpy with blackcurrent cordial and a shot of pernod and a shot of baileys added.....it curdled in the glass and a straw would stand upright in it
https://www.bestofhungary.co.uk/products/zwack-unicum
As the promotional says, “ Unicum is ideal for whetting your appetite before a meal”….because after a sip of Unicum you will be desperate for some food to take the taste of it away.
Rob Words"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcekIrFjwe0
Not that missing out on the journalistic bilge that discredited rag publishes nowadays is really losing out.
Tastes awful, except in high summer when it is for, some reason, delicious.
Very nasty indeed.