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  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,509
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Holiday snaps quiz time again.

    What is this?
    Where am I taking a short break?

    The first is a clue to the second obviously.


    Vittoriale degli italiani?
    Not a million miles away in a sense.
    If it weren’t for us they’d all be speaking Eye-tie (though actually quite a few of them do)!
    Malta?
    Bingo!
    Quite a modest museum (St Elmo) for such a massive setting, but good. Quite a nice animation of the Operation Pedestal convoy which if it isn’t already should be defined as a major naval engagement of WWII.
    There is also an absolutely magnificent Caravaggio in the cathedral at Valletta. I saw it when I was staying in Gozo, in my early 20s, falling in love with a beautiful 17 year old Jewish girl

    Caravaggio painted this masterpiece IN Malta, where he was on the run from a murder rap. Sex and violence, sex and violence...

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/apr/06/caravaggio-in-malta
    Yep, hoping to see it tomorrow, massive queues today though 🙁
    Currently at that other great cultural spot, the pub (called The Pub) in which Ollie Reed drank his last.
    Ah, you're there! Sweet

    Very interesting place, Malta. Not the most beautiful Med island, but so much history...

    Have you been or are you going to Gozo? Much quieter. Amazing prehistoric sites


    Best time of the year for Gozo. Sensible temperatures, green fields, and spring flowers abound.

    Plus, dirt cheap hotels. And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ġgantija which has a decent new museum attached.

    You do need to be lucky with the weather though, rain-wise.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,376

    Andy_JS said:

    Holiday snaps quiz time again.

    What is this?
    Where am I taking a short break?

    The first is a clue to the second obviously.


    That's a coincidence, I'm just thinking of planning a trip to Malta for the first time at the moment.
    I’d recommend it, lot’s to do and see without too much effort. Great views, particularly towards sunset.
    The rabbit is superb - there are any number of places which do it well - though oddly enough the best rabbit I've ever had was in Slovenia.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,509
    Airline Demand Between Canada & United States Collapses, Down 70%

    https://onemileatatime.com/news/airline-demand-canada-united-states-collapses/
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,289
    carnforth said:

    Airline Demand Between Canada & United States Collapses, Down 70%

    https://onemileatatime.com/news/airline-demand-canada-united-states-collapses/

    That is huge. Is that Canadians not holidaying in the US, or also Americans not holidaying in Canada?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,356
    FPT

    As an illiterate foreign-born living in your country, I don't get TSE's awesome pun/reference.

    He’s an astronaut, he has literally been out of this world.
    Aha, I get it, thanks :lol:
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,408
    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,199
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @visegrad24
    BREAKING:

    4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

    They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

    Looking like an excuse that Chump has been looking for to reduce US forces in Europe, or withdraw them from frontline states ...
    Because no troops die on exercises in the US...

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/06/politics/us-military-deadly-accidents/index.html
    They are wedded to the use of "accident" as some people are for "road accidents", which can provide an excuse for not working hard enough to prevent avoidable incidents.

    In that piece 16652 deaths between 2006 and 2018 (ish):

    “Since 2006 … a total of 16,652 active-duty personnel and mobilized reservists have died while serving in the US armed forces. Seventy-three percent of these casualties occurred under circumstances unrelated to war,” the report states.

    It is a trend that has only seemed to pick up momentum of late, as noncombat deaths have exceeded the number of military members killed in action every year since 2015.

    In 2017, nearly four times as many service members died in training accidents as were killed in combat, according to a House Armed Services Committee report related to the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2019 – a key point highlighted by many lawmakers and military officials who argued for additional defense spending to help offset readiness issues that have compounded for years.


    Presumably trying to prevent avoidable incidents is too woke.
    In India and Pakistan, a bus plunging over a ravine and killing 78 people is invariably referred to as a "mishap"...
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,509

    carnforth said:

    Airline Demand Between Canada & United States Collapses, Down 70%

    https://onemileatatime.com/news/airline-demand-canada-united-states-collapses/

    That is huge. Is that Canadians not holidaying in the US, or also Americans not holidaying in Canada?
    The figures are for Canada --> US:

    https://www.oag.com/blog/canada-us-airline-capacity-aviation-market

    (Scroll down)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,356
    ydoethur said:

    Ratters said:

    Nigelb said:

    Good; correct decision.

    Brussels has rejected Russia’s demand to lift EU restrictions on a key agro bank as part of a partial ceasefire deal, saying its sanctions regime will stay in place until “unconditional withdrawal” of Moscow’s troops from Ukraine.
    https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1904884790202872051

    How long before Trump gets bored of Ukraine and puts peace efforts on the backburner?

    I don't think there are any possible peace terms that are acceptable to Putin that are within Trump's power to offer.
    Incidentally, today is the 25th anniversary of Putin first being elected president.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_election
    Which, added to his previous three months in office, takes him past Stalin and makes him the longest serving leader of Russia since Alexander II.
    "Tsar Alexander made it all the way to Paris!"
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,561
    Barnesian said:

    DavidL said:

    Eabhal said:

    DavidL said:

    So the OBR, who got their forecast of this year’s growth wrong by a mere 50%, and are almost certainly still on the optimistic side, are forecasting a sudden and unexplained boost in growth next year and the following years and ON THAT BASIS, is predicting that Reeves will meet her extremely modest targets in 4 years time by £10bn ( about 0.1% of output over that period).

    If you put this forward as a potential sitcom it would be instantly rejected as completely implausible.

    If you read their exec summary, it's pretty clear they have no idea what's going to happen and have reverted to their medium-term assumption for 2026 onwards. I don't think it's implausible, and they do have to pick a number. The OECD is also relatively positive about the UK, for whatever reason.

    I think "persistent high wage growth" is the most interesting thing in their forecast, politically. It also assumes productivity growth, which isn't completely mad if you consider that immigration will fall and the cost of employing people has gone up.

    But the killer is tariffs. Any room is wiped out if the trade war escalates.
    I do not see significant changes in productivity unless the stuff @Leon is not allowed to talk about comes online much faster than we expect. And if it does assuming that is consistent with a rapid growth in real wages is well beyond optimistic.

    I’m sticking with implausible.
    Increases in productivity mainly come from a) economies of scale and b) from automation.

    It is relatively easy to improve productivity by scaling up on information services (finance, advertising, media, software, pharmaceutical discovery etc) I suspect that the US has higher productivity because it has larger scale. We need to rapidly expand our export of information services. The barrier is probably not technical but international marketing and sales skills.

    It is difficult to improve productivity in servicing humans (hair dressing, care homes, hookers, GPs). Automation with AI
    and robotics no doubt will slowly play a part. But there are no export opportunities without automation.
    Some of the surgical OR software is amazing
  • stodge said:

    @BartholomewRoberts people don’t really want growth. They just want wealth. For themselves, primarily. This is the inherent contradiction in British political culture. They want things to stay exactly the same, but just a little bit better. That’s my experience anyway.

    Hence the desire for rising house prices and inheritances.
    I disagree slightly. For many people it's not so much about themselves but for their family. They want their children to be better off and to have a better life. That's a human nature thing and has always been a part of our economics and our politics.

    It's when the next generation ends up worse off than the previous generation (or when that has been the expectation or perception) that you get problems.

    Part of securing that improvement is inheritance - what can I pass on in asset terms to give my children a better future? - but it's also about maintaining a degree of stability though I'd argue in societal, cultural and technological terms, the changes across generations have been profound.

    We are still (just) at the stage when if you were to ask when was the best time to be born, the answer would be "yesterday" but that's nowhere near as clear cut as it was and you have to ask with what kind of world those born now will have to deal in 50-60 years and many find the answers troubling.
    Sorry but I don't remotely accept that logic.

    If you wanted the next generation to be better off then you should want to ensure that the next generation can afford a home of their own when they're young, not want to leave them a nest egg only when you pop your clogs.

    If you're alive today then you'll probably still be alive into at least your eighties, which means that your "children" will likely be in their sixties or older by the time you die. An inheritance in your sixties might be a nice pension boost but it doesn't give you something to live well with throughout most of your lifetime - most of which you've already had by then.

    If you want the next generation to be better off then help them to be better off throughout their life, not what they have remaining only after you've enjoyed yours.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    edited March 26
    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,973
    stodge said:

    Has this been mentioned:

    In a particularly striking passage, Parnes and Allen describe a donors’ reception hosted by Phil Murphy, then governor of New Jersey, on 29 June 2024, two days after the debate disaster. Biden reportedly needed to have florescent tape fixed to the carpet, “colorful bread crumbs [that] showed the leader of the free world where to walk”.

    “He knows to look for that,” one aide explained.

    At the same event, Biden reportedly needed an autocue for “unscripted” remarks and then spoke haltingly in a Q&A with Murphy.


    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/mar/26/democrats-biden-withdraw

    How did the entire Dem party willingly go along with the lie and cover up of Biden's fitness to be in office ?

    Who the fuck cares? Even in that alleged state, he's still ten times better than the shits who took over from him and his team.
    Well if they'd accepted reality and had a proper primary then we likely wouldn't have the current shits.
    Most sitting Presidents don't have to go through a primary challenge - George HW Bush was unopposed in 1992, George W Bush likewise in 2004 and Obama in 2012 also had no significant opponent. and neither did Trump in 2020.

    The notion of a party seriously challenging its own elected President, once that President has opted to run again, is unrealistic.

    The better question is asking why Biden chose or was advised to run again - perhaps the view was he was the only one who could beat Trump having done so in 2020. LBJ stood down in 1968, the Democrats had a primary and still lost handily to Nixon.

    Had Biden said in March 2024 he wasn't going to run, the Democrats would have had a primary which Harris might well have won anyway but still lost out to Trump. In truth, this was going to be a very hard election for any Democrat presidential candidate.

    I'd also conjecture had Trump won in 2020, the Democrats would have won in 2024.
    Oh, without a doubt the best scenario would have been for Trump to have just cling on to the Presidency in 2020, but to have lost the Senate and the House. This means we'd have had Trump II while he was severely constrained by his lack of support in Congress.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729
    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Holiday snaps quiz time again.

    What is this?
    Where am I taking a short break?

    The first is a clue to the second obviously.


    Vittoriale degli italiani?
    Not a million miles away in a sense.
    If it weren’t for us they’d all be speaking Eye-tie (though actually quite a few of them do)!
    Malta?
    Bingo!
    Quite a modest museum (St Elmo) for such a massive setting, but good. Quite a nice animation of the Operation Pedestal convoy which if it isn’t already should be defined as a major naval engagement of WWII.
    There is also an absolutely magnificent Caravaggio in the cathedral at Valletta. I saw it when I was staying in Gozo, in my early 20s, falling in love with a beautiful 17 year old Jewish girl

    Caravaggio painted this masterpiece IN Malta, where he was on the run from a murder rap. Sex and violence, sex and violence...

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/apr/06/caravaggio-in-malta
    Yep, hoping to see it tomorrow, massive queues today though 🙁
    Currently at that other great cultural spot, the pub (called The Pub) in which Ollie Reed drank his last.
    Ah, you're there! Sweet

    Very interesting place, Malta. Not the most beautiful Med island, but so much history...

    Have you been or are you going to Gozo? Much quieter. Amazing prehistoric sites


    Best time of the year for Gozo. Sensible temperatures, green fields, and spring flowers abound.

    Plus, dirt cheap hotels. And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ġgantija which has a decent new museum attached.

    You do need to be lucky with the weather though, rain-wise.
    There's a really good Sicilian seafood restaurant just after you get off the ferry on the Gozo side, nothing special to look at but some of the best seafood pasta that I have ever had. A Maltese friend I was visiting took me there.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,199
    carnforth said:

    Airline Demand Between Canada & United States Collapses, Down 70%

    https://onemileatatime.com/news/airline-demand-canada-united-states-collapses/

    Candians aren't the sort of folk to go to America to gloat about Trump's disastrous Government.

    Americans aren't the sort of folk to go to Canada to apologise for Trump's disastrous Government.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,199
    Leon said:

    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer

    His wife died a year ago:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65211616
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,378

    carnforth said:

    Airline Demand Between Canada & United States Collapses, Down 70%

    https://onemileatatime.com/news/airline-demand-canada-united-states-collapses/

    Candians aren't the sort of folk to go to America to gloat about Trump's disastrous Government.

    Americans aren't the sort of folk to go to Canada to apologise for Trump's disastrous Government.
    Apparently US academics are fleeing, to Canada...

    https://bsky.app/profile/brynntannehill.bsky.social/post/3llbrmnf4dc2y
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,145
    Scott_xP said:

    Interesting snippet from the Democrat who just won a GOP seat

    He didn't run on an anti-Trump ticket

    He ran on an anti-Musk ticket

    Clever.

    Partly because Musk isn't Trump- he doesn't have the whatever-it-is-but-it's-real that DJT has. Without that, the public support for MAGA probably falls away pretty quickly. (Farage has "it" as well. So did Johnson in his prime. It does gain public support, but that's probably a bad thing.)

    But also, Trump is, however awful, the legitimately elected President. To attack him now carries a bit of "voters- you got it wrong" baggage. Whereas Musk is some rich bloke who blagged his way in and it's not entirely clear on what formal basis.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250

    Leon said:

    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer

    His wife died a year ago:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65211616
    That feels like I should LOL but obvs that's wrong

    Jonny Rotten is so old he's FINISHED being a full time carer

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,242
    nico67 said:

    They’ve asked Musk to investigate how Goldberg got added to the chat .

    I know why - they like his money - but why get Musk to do such a thing? Is this like an elderly grandparent asking their grandchildren how the internet or something?

    (That analogy is now outdated, my 75 year old dad is never off his smartphone).
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,096

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    Go to London you’ll either be mugged or disappointed.

    Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,242
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Patrick Stewart is in Avengers: Doomsday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7k3aJS0Fw

    ...as is Ian McKellen and Alan Cumming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7k3aJS0Fw
    They lost the general public awhile back, there's not really any hype anymore, so they need something major to get back on track.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,074
    Lower Thames Crossing, finally, got a planning decision yesterday after years of work, a DCO over 700,000 pages in length and over £1bn being spent on it.

    It will now almost certainly be challenged under Net Zero legislation and carbon budgets, which are law, and potentially subject to judicial review.

    A good example of the ratchet effect of laws that politicians don't understand and how failure to exercise leadership stifles growth.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,242

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,199
    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    It's her schtick.

    Without it, she'd be nothing.

    With it, she is still nothing.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,145
    Taz said:

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    Go to London you’ll either be mugged or disappointed.

    Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway
    Suddenly the rejected Overground line names (the ones that left us with Liberty, Lioness et cetera) don't seem so bad;

    https://www.londoncentric.media/p/the-rejected-london-overground-line

    The Polari line would have been interesting.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,376

    stodge said:

    @BartholomewRoberts people don’t really want growth. They just want wealth. For themselves, primarily. This is the inherent contradiction in British political culture. They want things to stay exactly the same, but just a little bit better. That’s my experience anyway.

    Hence the desire for rising house prices and inheritances.
    I disagree slightly. For many people it's not so much about themselves but for their family. They want their children to be better off and to have a better life. That's a human nature thing and has always been a part of our economics and our politics.

    It's when the next generation ends up worse off than the previous generation (or when that has been the expectation or perception) that you get problems.

    Part of securing that improvement is inheritance - what can I pass on in asset terms to give my children a better future? - but it's also about maintaining a degree of stability though I'd argue in societal, cultural and technological terms, the changes across generations have been profound.

    We are still (just) at the stage when if you were to ask when was the best time to be born, the answer would be "yesterday" but that's nowhere near as clear cut as it was and you have to ask with what kind of world those born now will have to deal in 50-60 years and many find the answers troubling.
    Sorry but I don't remotely accept that logic.

    If you wanted the next generation to be better off then you should want to ensure that the next generation can afford a home of their own when they're young, not want to leave them a nest egg only when you pop your clogs.

    If you're alive today then you'll probably still be alive into at least your eighties, which means that your "children" will likely be in their sixties or older by the time you die. An inheritance in your sixties might be a nice pension boost but it doesn't give you something to live well with throughout most of your lifetime - most of which you've already had by then.

    If you want the next generation to be better off then help them to be better off throughout their life, not what they have remaining only after you've enjoyed yours.
    Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well - not the first time and won't be the last - perhaps you didn't quite get the point I was trying to make.

    I did say "Part of securing that improvement" was inheritance - not all of it and by no means the only part of it. I agree we should be giving as many people as possible the opportunity to live independently - I don't just mean home ownership which I appreciate is important to Conservatives as a method of rebuilding their shattered voting coalition - but the ability to rent as well if that's the choice.

    To have your children on a secure financial footing must be the aim of every parent - that's part of ensuring the next generation have better prospects and greater opportunities but there are other elements.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    It's her schtick.

    Without it, she'd be nothing.

    With it, she is still nothing.
    You overrate her. She is less than.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,378

    Taz said:

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    Go to London you’ll either be mugged or disappointed.

    Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway
    Suddenly the rejected Overground line names (the ones that left us with Liberty, Lioness et cetera) don't seem so bad;

    https://www.londoncentric.media/p/the-rejected-london-overground-line

    The Polari line would have been interesting.
    You would need Kenneth Williams (Julian and Sandy) to do the station announcements
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,242

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    It's her schtick.

    Without it, she'd be nothing.

    With it, she is still nothing.
    Sure, but whilst she may be among the most egregious, they're all like that to some degree.

    It reminds me of normal untalented politicians trying to deal with what they expect to be hostile journalists and overcorrecting by being truculent right off the bat, before the journalist gives them an excuse, but taken to a complete extreme where they have no other gear than hostility and blustering.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    It's a real shame the Gherkin (and, to a much lesser extent, the Cheesegrater) are now obscured in the great mountain of steel and glass that is the City cluster. The Gherkin is like a world class sculpture hidden in a builder's yard

    However they have successfully managed to soften and hide the damage of the hideous clunking 22 Bishopsgate; soon one hopes they can similarly surround and hide the Walkie Talkie

    It's a fascinating skyline, it has many flaws and unique virtues

    The truly remarkable thing is that contrast between: ultra hi tech financial cluster and iconic Norman Castle - Tower of London - and Roman ruins - the wall. Nowhere else on earth does that

    You can see Traitor's Gate and the Gherkin in one image, taken from Tower Bridge, probably the most famous bridge in the world
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729
    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    She's such a charmer.
    Maybe you need to be there. But the gratuitous rudeness of her, Vance, Hegseth and Waltz really makes it clear that the US is no longer our friend or ally. We need to act accordingly and stop pretending.

    I think we are seriously close to the point when US forces in the UK should be asked to leave.
    We are near the point where they are more likely to be used against us as along side us.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,074
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Sean_F said:

    Leon said:

    nico67 said:

    Leon said:

    nico67 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

    "Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

    https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

    Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

    GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.
    It's true

    Guido:

    "In yet another ludicrous display of a left-wing judge thwarting the deportation of foreign criminals under the ECHR, a Pakistani paedophile, deemed a “danger to the community,” was allowed to stay in the UK last year…because he’s an alcoholic.

    The criminal, who’s been granted anonymity, came to the UK in 2010, was jailed in June 2020 for assaulting emergency workers while “heavily intoxicated,” and was jailed again in December 2022 for sexually abusing a girl under 13. At a June 2024 First-tier Tribunal, Judge Leanne Turner ruled that deporting him would breach European human rights law. Her reasoning? He could be persecuted in Pakistan as an alcoholic because alcohol is illegal over there. The judge ruled:

    “Sufficient evidence to show the lower standard, that the appellant would face inhuman or degrading treatment on return to Pakistan as a result of a highly likely criminal prosecution and imprisonment for his uncontrollable alcohol consumption. As such, returning to Pakistan would breach the U.K.’s obligations under Article 3 of the ECHR.”

    Details of the case were published on Monday"

    https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437
    The government could act to issue more guidance on the interpretation of the ECHR by judges which seems to be more the issue . And equally and might be unpalatable to some is that rights sometimes help those who we think don’t deserve that protection . At the same time they do protect those we think do deserve that. The right wing argument is to effectively flush away rights for everyone .
    We are inevitably going to leave the ECHR, it will either happen slowly with Labour reluctantly loosening the court's grip on our laws, or it will happen with a bang under the next government, and it will be total

    Every one of these insane judgements adds major fuel to an underground fire, ready to break out
    The ECHR can be reformed and there’s many countries that would support that .
    I genuinely wish that was the case, but I don't believe it is. It's a lumbering bureaucratic blob that is unreformable, the only option is to excise it from our constitution entirely. And sack about 500 judges
    I don’t know if the failing lies with the ECHR or with those who interpret it in perverse ways.

    The real problem is the way that rights get decoupled from responsibilities. So, the tribunals uphold a right to remain in this country, but impose no responsibility on the person claiming that right, to obey our criminal laws.
    I think the fault lies with the ECHR as is, AND with Woke British judges determined to interpret it in the most ridiculous manner

    How about the human rights of British people who will be attacked by this alcoholic Pakistani pedophile? Because he will obviously do it again, look at his record. Why do HIS human rights override British rights to be safe on the street?

    Fact is, when a foreigner with a violent criminal history gets convicted for sexually assaulting a 13 year old girl, he shoud be on a plane home the very next day. That's it. No question, no delay. He can "appeal" from Lahore on his own shilling, if he insists
    First of all, the government appealed, and won the appeal, which Guido and GBNews seem to have overlooked. The case will be reheard in the fullness of time.

    Second, this is another cue for the Man for All Seasons Sir Thomas More speech we discussed the other day.

    Third, cases like this create absurd perverse incentives against seeking treatment for whichever condition is preventing deportation.

    Fourth, there might be a case for the alternative to deportation being custody here rather than freedom.
    So, we have to pay £50k a year for him to go to jail, and get humane treatment for his alcoholism, instead of just sending him home, where he can't attack British thirteen year olds

    You people are insane. You are ushering in a hard right government
    What it amounts to is that anyone who lands on our shores essentially acquires the human rights of British citizens immediately, and cannot be deported, unless they agree to be.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,096

    Lower Thames Crossing, finally, got a planning decision yesterday after years of work, a DCO over 700,000 pages in length and over £1bn being spent on it.

    It will now almost certainly be challenged under Net Zero legislation and carbon budgets, which are law, and potentially subject to judicial review.

    A good example of the ratchet effect of laws that politicians don't understand and how failure to exercise leadership stifles growth.

    And costs for any frivolous challenges are limited due to The Aarhus convention too.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,369
    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    One is inclined to ask whether the response should be aggressive, equally unpleasant in response …..much the same thing, I suppose……. or simply dismissive.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,551
    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    Go to London you’ll either be mugged or disappointed.

    Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway
    Suddenly the rejected Overground line names (the ones that left us with Liberty, Lioness et cetera) don't seem so bad;

    https://www.londoncentric.media/p/the-rejected-london-overground-line

    The Polari line would have been interesting.
    You would need Kenneth Williams (Julian and Sandy) to do the station announcements
    I WOULD HAVE LIKED THE BLESSED LINE, PERSONALLY.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,378
    @jimsciutto
    Breaking: A divided federal appeals court has maintained a temporary block on President Donald Trump’s ability to use the Alien Enemies Act to quickly deport alleged members of a Venezuelan gang. The DC Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that a pair of lower-court orders blocking Trump’s use of the sweeping wartime authority can stand while a legal challenge to the president’s invocation of the law plays out.
    https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1904994157271056586
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,004
    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    Guess MAGA cult will now turn on the UK?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    Scott_xP said:

    @jimsciutto
    Breaking: A divided federal appeals court has maintained a temporary block on President Donald Trump’s ability to use the Alien Enemies Act to quickly deport alleged members of a Venezuelan gang. The DC Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that a pair of lower-court orders blocking Trump’s use of the sweeping wartime authority can stand while a legal challenge to the president’s invocation of the law plays out.
    https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1904994157271056586

    Problem is that Trump has got a bunch of hoodlums in the SC who will see him alright, whatever the law may be.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    Foss said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer

    His wife died a year ago:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65211616
    That feels like I should LOL but obvs that's wrong

    Jonny Rotten is so old he's FINISHED being a full time carer

    Given the propensity for celeb marriages to collapse at the first sign of trouble, there's a part of me that thinks sticking with her till the end is the most punk think he could have done.
    Brilliant.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,551
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer

    His wife died a year ago:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65211616
    That feels like I should LOL but obvs that's wrong

    Jonny Rotten is so old he's FINISHED being a full time carer

    Wow. You say a lot of OTT things - but even entertaining the idea of LOL or FINISHED at someone who watched over and cared for the love of their life as they slowly lost them to Alzheimer's is quite something.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,378
    @RohitKachrooITV

    DER SPIEGEL reporters were able to find mobile phone numbers, email addresses and some passwords for some of Donald Trump’s top security officials….

    https://x.com/RohitKachrooITV/status/1904997287035822180
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,332
    geoffw said:

    Foss said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer

    His wife died a year ago:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65211616
    That feels like I should LOL but obvs that's wrong

    Jonny Rotten is so old he's FINISHED being a full time carer

    Given the propensity for celeb marriages to collapse at the first sign of trouble, there's a part of me that thinks sticking with her till the end is the most punk think he could have done.
    Clearly a good egg.
    Jonny Notsorotten

    Jonny Curate's Egg?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,242
    Scott_xP said:

    @jimsciutto
    Breaking: A divided federal appeals court has maintained a temporary block on President Donald Trump’s ability to use the Alien Enemies Act to quickly deport alleged members of a Venezuelan gang. The DC Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that a pair of lower-court orders blocking Trump’s use of the sweeping wartime authority can stand while a legal challenge to the president’s invocation of the law plays out.
    https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1904994157271056586

    If they were 2-1 on the temporary block then what bet the SC position. I know they aren't entirely lapdogs, but they have some severe lapdog tendencies when it comes to enhancing Trump's powers.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Foss said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer

    His wife died a year ago:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65211616
    That feels like I should LOL but obvs that's wrong

    Jonny Rotten is so old he's FINISHED being a full time carer

    Given the propensity for celeb marriages to collapse at the first sign of trouble, there's a part of me that thinks sticking with her till the end is the most punk think he could have done.
    A year or two ago, when the esteemed Hanif Kureishi had HIS terrible medical emergency, which has left him basically tetrapelgic (I think?), a travel writer friend and I were in Bangkok for a few weeks, chilling out together in the January sun, as everyone sensible should

    We developed this technique, when we were wondering "whether to go review that new hotel", "do that article on that new cocktail bar", "see if the brothels in Patpong are really on the rebound" and our answer was "What would Hanif do?"

    ie, given that at any moment you might be slammed by some disaster and left immobile from the neck down, or worse (especially as the years pass), then the answer is, What would Hanif do? HANIF WOULD SAY YES

    Check out the hotel, sample the cocktails, go see the naked gogo dancers in the new retro bordello, who knows if this chance will come by again

    Because life is not just short, it is often cruel. Seize the day, indeed, seize the hour
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,923
    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    MTG is a vile scum sucking loathsome piece of trash . I wasn’t sure if the C word was bannable so refrained from using it !
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,378
    @wired.com‬

    SCOOP: A WIRED review of public data shows that national security adviser Mike Waltz, White House chief of staff Susie Wiles, and other top officials left sensitive information exposed via Venmo—until WIRED asked about it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3llcnphj4ds2z
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer

    His wife died a year ago:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65211616
    That feels like I should LOL but obvs that's wrong

    Jonny Rotten is so old he's FINISHED being a full time carer

    Wow. You say a lot of OTT things - but even entertaining the idea of LOL or FINISHED at someone who watched over and cared for the love of their life as they slowly lost them to Alzheimer's is quite something.
    Don't be a twat, you are misconstruing me entirely

    1. I deeply admire Jonny Rotten as a cantankerous character willing to endure the consensus of hostility (notice a tiny parallel?)

    2. He's smart and funny

    3. His caring for his wife was touching, sincere and poignant

    4. He's a dude

    I am saluting him, and the task accomplished, you ninny
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,915
    edited March 26
    A rough breakdown of the Avengers Doomsday cast by their group affiliation
    • Doctor Doom: Robert Downey Jr
    • Thor: Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston
    • Captain America: Anthony Mackie, Danny Ramirez
    • Black Panther: Letitia Wright, Winston Duke, Tenoch Huerta Mejía
    • Thunderbolts: Sebastian Stan, Florence Pugh, David Harbour, Wyatt Russell, Hannah John-Kamen, Lewis Pullman
    • Shang-Chi: Simu Liu
    • X-Men: Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, James Marsden, Kelsey Grammer, Alan Cumming, Rebecca Romijn, Channing Tatum
    • Fantastic Four: Pedro Pascal, Vanessa Kirby, Joseph Quinn, Ebon Moss-Bachrach
    Conspicuous by their absence: Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Famke Janssen, Halle Berry, Olga Kurylenko, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the whole of the X-Men reboot cast... :(
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,242
    Scott_xP said:

    @wired.com‬

    SCOOP: A WIRED review of public data shows that national security adviser Mike Waltz, White House chief of staff Susie Wiles, and other top officials left sensitive information exposed via Venmo—until WIRED asked about it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3llcnphj4ds2z

    Politicians in general are bad at data security, but there are levels of bad which are hard to look past.

    But we are at the point that no one can do any wrong in one's tribe anymore.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    POLARI would have been a SUPERB name for a London railway line

    So much better than the mega-cringe "Lionesses"

    *cringe*

    I hope that whoever comes in next as mayor or government has the cullions to change some of these dreadful names and GIVE US POLARI
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,551
    viewcode said:

    Patrick Stewart is in Avengers: Doomsday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7k3aJS0Fw

    I first remember him in I, Claudius. I really hope he's amassed a gargantuan amount of cash by now and spaffs it all on some bizarre niche charity one day.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,378
    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @wired.com‬

    SCOOP: A WIRED review of public data shows that national security adviser Mike Waltz, White House chief of staff Susie Wiles, and other top officials left sensitive information exposed via Venmo—until WIRED asked about it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3llcnphj4ds2z

    Politicians in general are bad at data security, but there are levels of bad which are hard to look past.

    But we are at the point that no one can do any wrong in one's tribe anymore.
    But her emails...
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,394
    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    I agree, but on the other hand, is there not something in her advice to 'care about your own borders'? Of course that journalist was there to report on foreign affairs and there are other journalists covering the borders, but the amount of btl comments here outraged at Trump’s japes and Signal messages vs. the amount of outrage about a judge giving a Pakistani paedophile leave to remain in our country on the basis of the ECHR is telling.

    Are we just so beaten down by these outrages we've given up even feeling angry about them?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    ohnotnow said:

    viewcode said:

    Patrick Stewart is in Avengers: Doomsday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7k3aJS0Fw

    I first remember him in I, Claudius. I really hope he's amassed a gargantuan amount of cash by now and spaffs it all on some bizarre niche charity one day.
    I Claudius was just so good. You wonder what could have been done with it now in terms of CGI and big budgets as opposed to the tiny little sets they had to work off but all these decades later the scene of a slightly drunk Claudius letting Livia know what he really thought is so vivid. Brilliant acting all round and a fabulous script.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770
    DavidL said:

    MattW said:

    The Atlantic have published the full text of the Signal conversation - with just an officer name redacted:

    https://archive.is/20250326161536/https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

    More evidence of stupidity. What are the odds of the Atlantic being prosecuted for disclosing official secrets?
    None.
    There's a longstanding journalistic defence, confirmed by Supreme Court precedent.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,100
    Foss said:

    geoffw said:

    Foss said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck, that's sad

    Julie Burchill is now in a wheelchair, probably for good

    All these livewire writers and artists of my youth

    Jonny Rotten is a fulltime carer

    His wife died a year ago:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65211616
    That feels like I should LOL but obvs that's wrong

    Jonny Rotten is so old he's FINISHED being a full time carer

    Given the propensity for celeb marriages to collapse at the first sign of trouble, there's a part of me that thinks sticking with her till the end is the most punk think he could have done.
    Clearly a good egg.
    Jonny Notsorotten

    Jonny Curate's Egg?
    Still, the Country Life butter ads..
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    That's you told, william.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,085
    edited March 26

    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Holiday snaps quiz time again.

    What is this?
    Where am I taking a short break?

    The first is a clue to the second obviously.


    Vittoriale degli italiani?
    Not a million miles away in a sense.
    If it weren’t for us they’d all be speaking Eye-tie (though actually quite a few of them do)!
    Malta?
    Bingo!
    Quite a modest museum (St Elmo) for such a massive setting, but good. Quite a nice animation of the Operation Pedestal convoy which if it isn’t already should be defined as a major naval engagement of WWII.
    There is also an absolutely magnificent Caravaggio in the cathedral at Valletta. I saw it when I was staying in Gozo, in my early 20s, falling in love with a beautiful 17 year old Jewish girl

    Caravaggio painted this masterpiece IN Malta, where he was on the run from a murder rap. Sex and violence, sex and violence...

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/apr/06/caravaggio-in-malta
    Yep, hoping to see it tomorrow, massive queues today though 🙁
    Currently at that other great cultural spot, the pub (called The Pub) in which Ollie Reed drank his last.
    I loved the stretch of Ordnance Street with what I presume are parking spaces allocated to government ministers, all the may up to PM

    Across Grand Harbour (do take the small boat ferry) the Italian Inquisitor’s Palace was…unexpected 😁
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    edited March 26
    Nigelb said:

    DavidL said:

    MattW said:

    The Atlantic have published the full text of the Signal conversation - with just an officer name redacted:

    https://archive.is/20250326161536/https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

    More evidence of stupidity. What are the odds of the Atlantic being prosecuted for disclosing official secrets?
    None.
    There's a longstanding journalistic defence, confirmed by Supreme Court precedent.
    But those precedents were issued when the SC actually upheld the law. Those days are past and those precedents can be overturned.

    Even the Atlantic was a bit queasy about that and sought assurances that the White House really meant it when they said that there was no official secrets in the material (although clearly there were) and they redacted the name of a CIA official.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    I agree, but on the other hand, is there not something in her advice to 'care about your own borders'? Of course that journalist was there to report on foreign affairs and there are other journalists covering the borders, but the amount of btl comments here outraged at Trump’s japes and Signal messages vs. the amount of outrage about a judge giving a Pakistani paedophile leave to remain in our country on the basis of the ECHR is telling.

    Are we just so beaten down by these outrages we've given up even feeling angry about them?
    Nicely phrased

    The Pakistani pedophile thing is clearly the most outrageous thing on this thread, but people would much rather ventilate at the Trump admin

    There are many things deeply wrong with the current American government, but I fear they are becoming a pantomime villain for us to hiss at, so we don't think of darker truer problems in our own lives

    Indeed, the two are linked. A lot of Americans believe Europe is now do decadently woke and overrun by migration it is beyond saving (and this grieves them, as they are almost always European in origin). At the same time the most prominent Americans saying this tend to be cartoony people from the Trump government (tho you can find sober serious American voices saying the same, in more measured tones)
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,561
    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    Because they don’t have the authority to close down discussion firmly but politely. So they use brute force
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,915
    ohnotnow said:

    viewcode said:

    Patrick Stewart is in Avengers: Doomsday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7k3aJS0Fw

    I first remember him in I, Claudius. I really hope he's amassed a gargantuan amount of cash by now and spaffs it all on some bizarre niche charity one day.
    With the Star Trek and X-Men franchises I think he's OK for cash.

    Patrick Stewart is 84. Iain McKellen is 85. God knows what Rebecca Romjin (52) or Alan Cumming (60) can do. Bringing back the 1990s X-Men cast when they had the reboot cast is stupid. It's not like Jennifer Lawrence or Michael Fassbender are kicking roles out of bed.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,749
    edited March 26
    On topic: Trump doesn't really care about polling and ratings now though, does he? He got his second term, he can't run for a third term so...

    It's full scorched earth now as he has nothing to lose (certainly for the next two years anyway)

    For the GOP it's a different matter but the time for them to reign Trump in has long since passed...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,915

    Taz said:

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    Go to London you’ll either be mugged or disappointed.

    Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway
    Suddenly the rejected Overground line names (the ones that left us with Liberty, Lioness et cetera) don't seem so bad;

    https://www.londoncentric.media/p/the-rejected-london-overground-line

    The Polari line would have been interesting.
    Famously, the 1973 Doctor Who episode "Carnival of Monsters" has dialogue in Polari, the implications of which would have gone over the heads of its audience. :)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,458
    Omnium said:

    Reeves was again good today, and Stride again completely painful.

    Badenoch badly needs a GE just to clear out the poor selection of MPs that she has. However she doesn't have anything like the control of the party needed to make it work.

    The Tories are looking into the abyss that Corbyn ran Labour round the edge of.

    The same Corbyn who even at his lowest was polling more than Labour are now? Many polls now give a Tory and Reform government
  • TresTres Posts: 2,775
    Andy_JS said:

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

    "Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

    https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

    Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

    GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.
    The Telegraph is saying it too.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/26/pakistani-paedophile-allowed-stay-uk-as-he-is-alcoholic/
    still waiting for a non joke source ;)
    The Daily Mail is reporting it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14536929/Paedophile-migrant-attacked-teenage-girl-allowed-stay-UK.html
    so, still waiting for a non joke source ;);)
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

    "Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

    https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

    Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

    GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.
    The Telegraph is saying it too.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/26/pakistani-paedophile-allowed-stay-uk-as-he-is-alcoholic/
    still waiting for a non joke source ;)
    The Daily Mail is reporting it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14536929/Paedophile-migrant-attacked-teenage-girl-allowed-stay-UK.html
    so, still waiting for a non joke source ;);)
    https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,356
    edited March 26
    Leon said:

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    I agree, but on the other hand, is there not something in her advice to 'care about your own borders'? Of course that journalist was there to report on foreign affairs and there are other journalists covering the borders, but the amount of btl comments here outraged at Trump’s japes and Signal messages vs. the amount of outrage about a judge giving a Pakistani paedophile leave to remain in our country on the basis of the ECHR is telling.

    Are we just so beaten down by these outrages we've given up even feeling angry about them?
    Nicely phrased

    The Pakistani pedophile thing is clearly the most outrageous thing on this thread, but people would much rather ventilate at the Trump admin

    There are many things deeply wrong with the current American government, but I fear they are becoming a pantomime villain for us to hiss at, so we don't think of darker truer problems in our own lives

    Indeed, the two are linked. A lot of Americans believe Europe is now do decadently woke and overrun by migration it is beyond saving (and this grieves them, as they are almost always European in origin). At the same time the most prominent Americans saying this tend to be cartoony people from the Trump government (tho you can find sober serious American voices saying the same, in more measured tones)
    OTOH, Ukraine is being overrun by Russians with tacit American blessing.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,199
    Taz said:

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    Go to London you’ll either be mugged or disappointed.

    Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway
    You missed stopping off at Plague Pits.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,749
    HYUFD said:

    Omnium said:

    Reeves was again good today, and Stride again completely painful.

    Badenoch badly needs a GE just to clear out the poor selection of MPs that she has. However she doesn't have anything like the control of the party needed to make it work.

    The Tories are looking into the abyss that Corbyn ran Labour round the edge of.

    The same Corbyn who even at his lowest was polling more than Labour are now? Many polls now give a Tory and Reform government
    The next election is all to play for.

    My guess is, one of the three, Con/Lab/Ref will eventually break away from the other two and head upwards.

    But which one will the country decide to rally behind?
  • TresTres Posts: 2,775
    Leon said:

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

    "Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

    https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

    Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

    GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.
    The Telegraph is saying it too.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/26/pakistani-paedophile-allowed-stay-uk-as-he-is-alcoholic/
    still waiting for a non joke source ;)
    The Daily Mail is reporting it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14536929/Paedophile-migrant-attacked-teenage-girl-allowed-stay-UK.html
    so, still waiting for a non joke source ;);)
    https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437
    you still don't understand what that decisions means do you? you just want to slur muslims bad muslims bad
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,046
    Leon said:

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904952409161634006

    "Should the Defense Secretary.."
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Wait what country are you from?"
    "From the UK"
    "OK we don't give a crap about your opinion and your reporting. Why don't you go back to your country. We have a major migrant problem. You should care about your own borders"

    Why do they take such pleasure in being unpleasant? It's not like we should get an attack of vapours at rudeness, but there just seems not purpose in being that hostile.
    I agree, but on the other hand, is there not something in her advice to 'care about your own borders'? Of course that journalist was there to report on foreign affairs and there are other journalists covering the borders, but the amount of btl comments here outraged at Trump’s japes and Signal messages vs. the amount of outrage about a judge giving a Pakistani paedophile leave to remain in our country on the basis of the ECHR is telling.

    Are we just so beaten down by these outrages we've given up even feeling angry about them?
    Nicely phrased

    The Pakistani pedophile thing is clearly the most outrageous thing on this thread, but people would much rather ventilate at the Trump admin
    It's a good job there are no posters on this thread who would post about drunkenly perving young teenage girls. The tone has definitely been raised since we got rid of SeanT.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,375
    OMG.

    Avengers Doomsday.

    Better than sex season three of Picard.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,375
    Surprised Leon and Billy Glenn haven't spammed PB with this, given how keen they were to expose Biden going gaga.

    Donald Trump: "We're gonna have tremendous goodies in the bag for women too. The women…Fertilization. I'm still very proud of it, I don't care. I'll be known as the fertilization president and that's okay."


    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1905002779300765743
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,046

    OMG.

    Avengers Doomsday.

    Better than sex season three of Picard.

    Do they talk about carpets?
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,165
    Taz said:

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    Go to London you’ll either be mugged or disappointed.

    Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway
    Who's upset you this time Taz?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,046

    Surprised Leon and Billy Glenn haven't spammed PB with this, given how keen they were to expose Biden going gaga.

    Donald Trump: "We're gonna have tremendous goodies in the bag for women too. The women…Fertilization. I'm still very proud of it, I don't care. I'll be known as the fertilization president and that's okay."


    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1905002779300765743

    He'll be known as the President who was full of what Bess Truman spent 35 years trying to get Harry to call fertiliser.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,915

    OMG.

    Avengers Doomsday.

    Better than sex season three of Picard.

    ...and suffers from the same disadvantage: resurrecting legacy charaters with elderly actors. Stewart and McKellen are two/three years older than Joe Biden
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,318

    ydoethur said:

    Ratters said:

    Nigelb said:

    Good; correct decision.

    Brussels has rejected Russia’s demand to lift EU restrictions on a key agro bank as part of a partial ceasefire deal, saying its sanctions regime will stay in place until “unconditional withdrawal” of Moscow’s troops from Ukraine.
    https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1904884790202872051

    How long before Trump gets bored of Ukraine and puts peace efforts on the backburner?

    I don't think there are any possible peace terms that are acceptable to Putin that are within Trump's power to offer.
    Incidentally, today is the 25th anniversary of Putin first being elected president.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_election
    Which, added to his previous three months in office, takes him past Stalin and makes him the longest serving leader of Russia since Alexander II.
    "Tsar Alexander made it all the way to Paris!"
    Wrong Alexander. Mind you Alexander II was assassinated,
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,375
    viewcode said:

    OMG.

    Avengers Doomsday.

    Better than sex season three of Picard.

    ...and suffers from the same disadvantage: resurrecting legacy charaters with elderly actors. Stewart and McKellen are two/three years older than Joe Biden
    Nah, the plot is clear.

    You need to follow the subtle hints.

    Alternate universes meet, they'll recast during the film.

    Remember how in Deadpool and Wolverine Deadpool thought Chris Evans was Captain America but was in fact Johnny Storm.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,378
    Trumpski announces 25% tariff on all imported cars
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,591

    London: what a shit-hole! :lol:


    I nice photo of an open sewer.
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