Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Parliament can pass whatever laws it likes, as we saw with Johnson's one line bill which brusquely overrode the fixed term parliament act in 2019. So it's time for MPs to exercise that right wrt the sentencing council.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
I just got back from 36 hours in Ukraine with my brother Scott. Wanted to share a story from while we were there. At a hospital, we talked with a wounded Ukrainian soldier.
Thanks for the article. May I with apologies repost something relevant to this, a betting post of sorts, but there won't be a market:
What are the probabilities/possibilities in the medium term term for USA post 20 January 2025. Here are five:
1 Trump over time remains weird but normalises.
2 Slow boiling frog: carry on as if this is a normal regime but weird, gradually tightening the screw but, eg, don't invade Canada. NATO debilitated but not abolished. Free and fair elections continue.
3 Quicker boiling frog: we end up where it appears rational to MAGA to literally invade Canada. NATO stuffed. Elections rigged.
4 Proper Trumpist coup: we wake up one day and find MSNBC, NYT, WSJ are closed, internet is down and Jon Stewart is in prison, elections cancelled, army on the street
5 Proper counter coup: We wake up one day and find airports closed, media outlets occupied, Trump and Musk etc arrested and army on the street.
Of these 5, assuming they cover the terrain, I would put the % at about 5% 35% 25% 20% 15%. Thoughts?
You'd need to include possibilities where Trump dies. Leaving aside the risk of assassination, a man of 80 (as Trump will be in June) has around a 5% chance of dying in the next twelve months. He has access to the best healthcare but also has some risk factors. His chances of dying within his term of office have to be around 20%.
And that's just death: if you include serious illness (like a cancer diagnosis), it's probably at least a third.
ChatGPT says:
A man aged 80 in the U.S. has roughly a 26-27% probability of dying within the next 4 years based on actuarial data.
But not a lifelong teetotaler and non smoker.
A lot of these GOP teetotalers look shit faced for a decent proportion of the time. Isn't Hegseth a reformed drinker who can quite often be seen to be "tired and emotional".
I note that a number of our PB Tory friends are busting Reform's balls for the Trump adjacent stance during the Presidential Election. Remind me what party do Johnson, Mogg, Patel, Braverman, Jenrick and to a lesser degree Badenoch belong to?
Labour aren't out of the woods on this issue either. Starmer must be in agony for all those splinters from fence sitting over Trump evil.
Starmer is having to walk a tightrope here. And I say that as someone who is pretty anti-Starmer.
Sending a dead fish to the Whitehouse might make some people feel better, but might actually harm quite a lot of other people.
Playing the stretch-it-out-game is the best option at this point, I think.
I'd vote for the politician who sends the rotting fish to the Whitehouse. After the weekend it is more likely to be the fragrant Honest Bob than the hapless Starmer.
But when Keir turns he's gonna turn HARD.
(Working on my Leon. Getting quite good at it now)
I do wish Starmer would jettison the idea of avoiding tariffs. This is Trump. I wouldn't trust him further than I could throw Rochdale's Tesla.
Kelly is trying to undermine the foreign policy of the US government.
What is the foreign policy of the US government?
(Also: on your basis, saying "we shouldn't invade Canada" is also tantamount to undermining the foreign policy of the US government.)
To question the God-Emperor is treason, apparently.
“Most civilisation is based on cowardice. It's so easy to civilize by teaching cowardice. You water down the standards which would lead to bravery. You restrain the will. You regulate the appetites. You fence in the horizons. You make a law for every movement. You deny the existence of chaos. You teach even the children to breathe slowly. You tame.”
God Emperor of Dune is one of my all time favourite books. It is laced with penetrating observations and insight.
Extraordinary Mark Kelly can be called a "traitor" - it's hard to think of someone whose record is as far removed from treason or treachery. I do idly wonder if he could or would be a viable Democrat candidate for POTUS in 2028 - his problem unfortunately would be the Democrat Party. I think were they to take a sensible view of politics, the Democrats would relaise he would likely thrash Vance or A.N Other Republican.
Carney's coronation as Canada's next "Governor" (sorry, Prime Minister) makes the forthcoming election more interesting though Trump's disdain for Poilievre's Canadian nationalism has likely done the latter a power of good.
As for the impending by election in Runcorn & Helsby, as someone else once said, too early to tell. I imagine Labour will want a quick contest - perhaps May 1st - and may have told Amesbury to hurry up and resign so it can be called. A longer campaign gives Reform, the Conservatives and the Greens a chance to organise.
The only way Kelly could be called a traitor is if the US currently sees itself at war with Ukraine. So maybe we should thank Musk for his honesty.
Seriously, what is Musk taking?
Ketamin, supposedly, though who knows. I defy even a Musk fan to explain how he is acting stably in recent months, flitting about on government business and ranting and raving on twitter all the time.
Thanks for the article. May I with apologies repost something relevant to this, a betting post of sorts, but there won't be a market:
What are the probabilities/possibilities in the medium term term for USA post 20 January 2025. Here are five:
1 Trump over time remains weird but normalises.
2 Slow boiling frog: carry on as if this is a normal regime but weird, gradually tightening the screw but, eg, don't invade Canada. NATO debilitated but not abolished. Free and fair elections continue.
3 Quicker boiling frog: we end up where it appears rational to MAGA to literally invade Canada. NATO stuffed. Elections rigged.
4 Proper Trumpist coup: we wake up one day and find MSNBC, NYT, WSJ are closed, internet is down and Jon Stewart is in prison, elections cancelled, army on the street
5 Proper counter coup: We wake up one day and find airports closed, media outlets occupied, Trump and Musk etc arrested and army on the street.
Of these 5, assuming they cover the terrain, I would put the % at about 5% 35% 25% 20% 15%. Thoughts?
You'd need to include possibilities where Trump dies. Leaving aside the risk of assassination, a man of 80 (as Trump will be in June) has around a 5% chance of dying in the next twelve months. He has access to the best healthcare but also has some risk factors. His chances of dying within his term of office have to be around 20%.
And that's just death: if you include serious illness (like a cancer diagnosis), it's probably at least a third.
ChatGPT says:
A man aged 80 in the U.S. has roughly a 26-27% probability of dying within the next 4 years based on actuarial data.
But not a lifelong teetotaler and non smoker.
A lot of these GOP teetotalers look shit faced for a decent proportion of the time. Isn't Hegseth a reformed drinker who can quite often be seen to be "tired and emotional".
I note that a number of our PB Tory friends are busting Reform's balls for the Trump adjacent stance during the Presidential Election. Remind me what party do Johnson, Mogg, Patel, Braverman, Jenrick and to a lesser degree Badenoch belong to?
Labour aren't out of the woods on this issue either. Starmer must be in agony for all those splinters from fence sitting over Trump evil.
Starmer is having to walk a tightrope here. And I say that as someone who is pretty anti-Starmer.
Sending a dead fish to the Whitehouse might make some people feel better, but might actually harm quite a lot of other people.
Playing the stretch-it-out-game is the best option at this point, I think.
I'd vote for the politician who sends the rotting fish to the Whitehouse. After the weekend it is more likely to be the fragrant Honest Bob than the hapless Starmer.
But when Keir turns he's gonna turn HARD.
(Working on my Leon. Getting quite good at it now)
I do wish Starmer would jettison the idea of avoiding tariffs. This is Trump. Just to balance the argument.
I do see the argument the other way (buying time) but I'm more with you on this. Trump is beyond appeasing. You can't do it without fueling the problem.
Anonymous @YourAnonCentral Trump ordered the dismantling of the landing platform at Rzeszow airbase in Poland, the US has broken down warehouses and torn apart slabs of concrete on the runway to prevent further aid transports to Ukraine. Trump has no intention of resuming US aid to Ukraine. #StandWithUkraine
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Kelly is trying to undermine the foreign policy of the US government.
What is the foreign policy of the US government?
(Also: on your basis, saying "we shouldn't invade Canada" is also tantamount to undermining the foreign policy of the US government.)
To question the God-Emperor is treason, apparently.
“Most civilisation is based on cowardice. It's so easy to civilize by teaching cowardice. You water down the standards which would lead to bravery. You restrain the will. You regulate the appetites. You fence in the horizons. You make a law for every movement. You deny the existence of chaos. You teach even the children to breathe slowly. You tame.”
God Emperor of Dune is one of my all time favourite books. It is laced with penetrating observations and insight.
I've seen pictures of Trump as the God-Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40k, but I'm too afraid to google one of him as Leto II.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
@nytmike NEW: In a major escalation in the fight between Trump and Perkins Coie, the firm has retained Williams & Connolly -- which has some of the most aggressive and fiercest litigators in the country -- to represent it. There were deep concerns in the legal community that no one was going to be willing to come forward to represent Perkins Coie against Trump.
Anonymous @YourAnonCentral Trump ordered the dismantling of the landing platform at Rzeszow airbase in Poland, the US has broken down warehouses and torn apart slabs of concrete on the runway to prevent further aid transports to Ukraine. Trump has no intention of resuming US aid to Ukraine. #StandWithUkraine
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Yeah but those that don't vote have chosen not to have a say. Of those that voted he got pretty much 50% of the vote. I find that absolutely bewildering. Really bewildering.
Early evidence of avocado domestication from El Gigante Rockshelter, Honduras
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2417072122 .. Here, we define an early locus of avocado domestication using well-dated desiccated and carbonized avocado remains from El Gigante rockshelter in western Honduras spanning the last 11,000 y. Measurements of avocado seeds and rinds show evidence for long-term management resulting in selection for larger, more robust fruits through time that culminated by 2,250 to 2,080 calendar B.P. (cal. B.P.). However, human-directed selection for larger fruits with thicker rinds is evident as early as 7,565 to 7,265 cal. B.P.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
I don't. I refuse to vote for any of the main partis in UK elections as I think they are all scumbags. That doesn't mean I support any of them. Exactly the opposite. Counting non voters as supporting the winning side is so dumb it is practically Trumpian in its idiocy.
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Early evidence of avocado domestication from El Gigante Rockshelter, Honduras
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2417072122 .. Here, we define an early locus of avocado domestication using well-dated desiccated and carbonized avocado remains from El Gigante rockshelter in western Honduras spanning the last 11,000 y. Measurements of avocado seeds and rinds show evidence for long-term management resulting in selection for larger, more robust fruits through time that culminated by 2,250 to 2,080 calendar B.P. (cal. B.P.). However, human-directed selection for larger fruits with thicker rinds is evident as early as 7,565 to 7,265 cal. B.P.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
That's not true. Turnout was 66.3% and Trump got 49.8% of those who bothered. So less than a third of the American electorate voted Trump. And if you include children and felons, it's probably about a fifth of Americans who voted for him.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
I don't. I refuse to vote for any of the main partis in UK elections as I think they are all scumbags. That doesn't mean I support any of them. Exactly the opposite. Counting non voters as supporting the winning side is so dumb it is practically Trumpian in its idiocy.
If they are all scumbags, and I find it hard to disagree, what is the remedy?
In the meantime I'll vote for the sensible, and hold my nose.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Nope. You can't say they passively supported Trump any more than they passively supported Biden. Indeed many of those who didn't vote would not have supported either main candidate (passively or otherwise) hence their decision not to vote.
If you really object to both Biden and Trump, what do you do? If you don't vote are you passively supporting both candidates?
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
I don't. I refuse to vote for any of the main partis in UK elections as I think they are all scumbags. That doesn't mean I support any of them. Exactly the opposite. Counting non voters as supporting the winning side is so dumb it is practically Trumpian in its idiocy.
I disagree, and it's why I said passive support not support as I'm not adding them to Trump's tally, but that they've accepted the outcome whichever had won. If people care not to vote they may or may not be justified in their disgust for the political options on offer but they made a choice to allow others to make the final decision, whatever they will be, they went in eyes open as to what the options would be and decided that was acceptable to abstain from.
That's a valid choice which can be defended, but I think it's silly of someone in that situation to pretend sitting out is not passive acceptance of deferring to those who don't sit out. Non-voters should stand by their non-choice as much as those who make a choice - it's not equal, but it's still there.
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
"Telling people to buy Teslas is fucking stupid unless you actively want the destruction of democracy and European liberal civilisation. Or maybe you just don't care enough about those things."
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Your mistake is thinking Musk and Tesla are separate. They should be, but they are not.
Early evidence of avocado domestication from El Gigante Rockshelter, Honduras
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2417072122 .. Here, we define an early locus of avocado domestication using well-dated desiccated and carbonized avocado remains from El Gigante rockshelter in western Honduras spanning the last 11,000 y. Measurements of avocado seeds and rinds show evidence for long-term management resulting in selection for larger, more robust fruits through time that culminated by 2,250 to 2,080 calendar B.P. (cal. B.P.). However, human-directed selection for larger fruits with thicker rinds is evident as early as 7,565 to 7,265 cal. B.P.
11,000 years ago was roughly the time of Atlantis (11,600 BP), as mentioned by Plato in Timeas and Critias. It was also the era of huge expanses of land being above water that were subsequently lost to sea level rise at the end of the Ice Age (by 7,000 BP). Who knows what archaeology has missed by ignoring those areas.
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Your mistake is thinking Musk and Tesla are separate. They should be, but they are not.
He is the largest shareholder at 12.8%
It will be interesting to see at what point the other shareholders will try and force him out of governence of the company.
Apropos nothing in particular, a friend of mine has been very active in the Carney campaign for the Canadian Liberal Party leadership campaign. The thing that has impressed him (and his colleagues ) most was the turnout of 92.7%, which is unprecedented. He observed that "Trump seems to be a very good laxative".
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Nope. You can't say they passively supported Trump any more than they passively supported Biden. Indeed many of those who didn't vote would not have supported either main candidate (passively or otherwise) hence their decision not to vote.
If you really object to both Biden and Trump, what do you do? If you don't vote are you passively supporting both candidates?
Yes, you are passively supporting whatever the outcome is, as you decided - potentially for good reasons - to not participate directly and defer to the judgement of your fellow citizens rather than take part. Politicians don't respond to non-participation, they only respond to participation.
The objection here seems to be it equates non-voters to Trump voters, which is not the point I was making. The point was if you are going to judge the level of Trump support, of about half, you cannot then decide to add in the ones who did not bother to vote at all to lower that percentage of support to make it seem less of a big deal than it is.
People may disagree with my 'passive support' metric, but it is a lot sillier to me to say someone got around 50% in an election but let's pretend that doesn't matter so much because a lot of people didn't vote so really his support was 30%. It can be true, but it meaningless since the numbers who actually vote are what matters.
Early evidence of avocado domestication from El Gigante Rockshelter, Honduras
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2417072122 .. Here, we define an early locus of avocado domestication using well-dated desiccated and carbonized avocado remains from El Gigante rockshelter in western Honduras spanning the last 11,000 y. Measurements of avocado seeds and rinds show evidence for long-term management resulting in selection for larger, more robust fruits through time that culminated by 2,250 to 2,080 calendar B.P. (cal. B.P.). However, human-directed selection for larger fruits with thicker rinds is evident as early as 7,565 to 7,265 cal. B.P.
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
I don't. I refuse to vote for any of the main partis in UK elections as I think they are all scumbags. That doesn't mean I support any of them. Exactly the opposite. Counting non voters as supporting the winning side is so dumb it is practically Trumpian in its idiocy.
Were you in the 37.5% that voted for Brexit, just asking?
Guys - forget the arguments about percentages. Trump won the majority of votes cast. Even in an electoral system when you vote for electors not the candidates, that still matters.
I've stood for election 6 times and lost 5 times. You get what you vote for and its always the correct result - especially when you lose.
America voted for Trump and all that is unleashed as a result. So far we have had exactly what it said on the tin - however crazy or damaging or destructive it has been, it was all promised in the campaign and people voted for it.
So often politicians disappoint by talking tough in a campaign and then doing little to nothing - or the opposite of their promises. Trump? All that he promised, decisively and rapidly.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Perhaps you should take it as support for it doesn't actually matter who wins which is why I no longer bother voting....its a waste of time and energy for no actual change
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Your mistake is thinking Musk and Tesla are separate. They should be, but they are not.
He is the largest shareholder at 12.8%
It will be interesting to see at what point the other shareholders will try and force him out of governence of the company.
Per @POTUS directive, I have revoked security clearances and barred access to classified information for Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, Mark Zaid, Norman Eisen, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, and Andrew Weissman, along with the 51 signers of the Hunter Biden "disinformation" letter. The President's Daily Brief is no longer being provided to former President Biden
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Your mistake is thinking Musk and Tesla are separate. They should be, but they are not.
They're pretty separate these days - he spends next to no time involved in Tesla as he's too busy firing veterans with important government jobs. They launched the refresh of the best selling car in the world and he said nothing - your average CEO would be all over the media ramping the product. Musk? No longer sleeping on a cot in the Tesla factory, he's at Mar-a-Lago, the White House or sleeping on a cot at the US Treasury.
Trump: "We're going to take in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs. We are going to become so rich. You're not going to know where to spend all that money, I'm telling you"
Per @POTUS directive, I have revoked security clearances and barred access to classified information for Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, Mark Zaid, Norman Eisen, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, and Andrew Weissman, along with the 51 signers of the Hunter Biden "disinformation" letter. The President's Daily Brief is no longer being provided to former President Biden
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Perhaps you should take it as support for it doesn't actually matter who wins which is why I no longer bother voting....its a waste of time and energy for no actual change
You think the world would be looking as it does today if Biden had won?
Tesla $TSLA stock is (was?) very popular with US retail investors, many of whom trade on margin under the RegT provisions. Very soon there are going to have to be margin calls if the shares no longer provide adequate collateral. That's going to lead to a sell-off - not only of Tesla shares, but also of other liquid stocks. If the rot continues, then it's a case of "sell what you can, not what you want." And of course the most exposed investor of them all is Mr Musk himself. When he has to start selling, it's going to lead to a rout. Sell US equities, buy European bonds, tinned food and personal small arms.
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Yeah it's all a fucking hilarious game to you.
The game? No. You and the people like you going puce with rage when you realise that The Whole World Doesn't Agree With You? Yes.
And again, you're posting things that you think I have said and you think I have done and you think I think. Because That Fits Your Anger. But it's imagined.
I'm creating an AI automated pizza maker that automatically generates pizzas with pineapple wrapped in bacon on top. The code is written in Python. Obviously needs some music to play while you wait - thoughts?
Tesla $TSLA stock is (was?) very popular with US retail investors, many of whom trade on margin under the RegT provisions. Very soon there are going to have to be margin calls if the shares no longer provide adequate collateral. That's going to lead to a sell-off - not only of Tesla shares, but also of other liquid stocks. If the rot continues, then it's a case of "sell what you can, not what you want." And of course the most exposed investor of them all is Mr Musk himself. When he has to start selling, it's going to lead to a rout. Sell US equities, buy European bonds, tinned food and personal small arms.
My bog roll stock take indicates I am down to the last 2,656 so think I'll be fine.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Nope. You can't say they passively supported Trump any more than they passively supported Biden. Indeed many of those who didn't vote would not have supported either main candidate (passively or otherwise) hence their decision not to vote.
If you really object to both Biden and Trump, what do you do? If you don't vote are you passively supporting both candidates?
Yes, you are passively supporting whatever the outcome is, as you decided - potentially for good reasons - to not participate directly and defer to the judgement of your fellow citizens rather than take part. Politicians don't respond to non-participation, they only respond to participation.
The objection here seems to be it equates non-voters to Trump voters, which is not the point I was making. The point was if you are going to judge the level of Trump support, of about half, you cannot then decide to add in the ones who did not bother to vote at all to lower that percentage of support to make it seem less of a big deal than it is.
People may disagree with my 'passive support' metric, but it is a lot sillier to me to say someone got around 50% in an election but let's pretend that doesn't matter so much because a lot of people didn't vote so really his support was 30%. It can be true, but it meaningless since the numbers who actually vote are what matters.
If there is no one worth voting for why vote....for example lib dems, labour cons....all basically carry on as we are....greens and reform absolute fruit bats.....who do I vote for to actually make a difference....answer is no one worth voting for. You may find it silly and that is your right but you think there is someone worth your vote millions absolutely think they are all banhammers totally unworthy of pissing on if they were on fire let alone voting for
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
I don't. I refuse to vote for any of the main partis in UK elections as I think they are all scumbags. That doesn't mean I support any of them. Exactly the opposite. Counting non voters as supporting the winning side is so dumb it is practically Trumpian in its idiocy.
I think we can only interpret non-voters and voters for no-hope parties as inscrutable though unenthusiastic in their view of the main parties. Personally, I'm chair of my CLP - it's not that I think the Government is wonderful, or approve of the sudden enthusiasm for heavy defence spending, but on balance they remain the most serious game in town. I've never considered being a Tory, Reform seem to me vulgar and unscrupulous, the LibDems too unreliable and unrealistic, and the Greens wildly unrealistic.
I wouldn't impute any particular views on you beyond what you've said, but it's perhaps fair to say that you seem to regard the main parties with exactly equal hostility, which seems to me less than helpful. But you've an absolute right to it, of course!
Guys - forget the arguments about percentages. Trump won the majority of votes cast. Even in an electoral system when you vote for electors not the candidates, that still matters.
I've stood for election 6 times and lost 5 times. You get what you vote for and its always the correct result - especially when you lose.
America voted for Trump and all that is unleashed as a result. So far we have had exactly what it said on the tin - however crazy or damaging or destructive it has been, it was all promised in the campaign and people voted for it.
So often politicians disappoint by talking tough in a campaign and then doing little to nothing - or the opposite of their promises. Trump? All that he promised, decisively and rapidly.
I think this is largely a semantic debate.
In American English certainly, although it's more arguable in British English, "majority" means over 50% (which Trump didn't get) whereas "plurality" means more than anyone else but not more than 50% (which he did). Personally, I think American English has a good point here - it's a useful, if slightly fine, distinction.
But I'm not sure it's ultimately very helpful in this discussion - he won.
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Your mistake is thinking Musk and Tesla are separate. They should be, but they are not.
He is the largest shareholder at 12.8%
It will be interesting to see at what point the other shareholders will try and force him out of governence of the company.
He also controls the board.
They’ve fallen a lot, but only back to where they were in November, before the surge in anticipation that Trump would be good news for the brand. And that pre-election valuation had a lot of future growth already priced in. They have much further to fall.
It's pretty outrageous that Canada now has a PM that's not an MP (even if it will only be for a short time)
Could a political party get away with that here? Maybe there's still time for a Boris comeback?
PBers need a history lesson.
The Earl of Home waves.
Also worth noting that once parliament is prorogued we have no MPs. And government ministers remain in office until dismissed - whether they are MPs or not and whether their party won the election or not.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Perhaps you should take it as support for it doesn't actually matter who wins which is why I no longer bother voting....its a waste of time and energy for no actual change
You think the world would be looking as it does today if Biden had won?
Does that mean the world would be any worse for the people who decided it didn't matter....probably not. Foreign affairs and wars are not what they have issues with and they probably dont give a shit if greenland or canada is elected....they just want better lives....biden wasn't offering it neither was trump
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
I don't. I refuse to vote for any of the main partis in UK elections as I think they are all scumbags. That doesn't mean I support any of them. Exactly the opposite. Counting non voters as supporting the winning side is so dumb it is practically Trumpian in its idiocy.
I think we can only interpret non-voters and voters for no-hope parties as inscrutable though unenthusiastic in their view of the main parties. Personally, I'm chair of my CLP - it's not that I think the Government is wonderful, or approve of the sudden enthusiasm for heavy defence spending, but on balance they remain the most serious game in town. I've never considered being a Tory, Reform seem to me vulgar and unscrupulous, the LibDems too unreliable and unrealistic, and the Greens wildly unrealistic.
I wouldn't impute any particular views on you beyond what you've said, but it's perhaps fair to say that you seem to regard the main parties with exactly equal hostility, which seems to me less than helpful. But you've an absolute right to it, of course!
I think it's hard to generalise with non-voters. Quite a lot are negative about politics, but it varies a lot. Quite a few non-voters intend to vote but forget or get caught up in some other activity. Quite a few aren't negative but feel genuinely ill-equipped to decide. I've even had a fair few who say they are equally happy with all options (less than say they are equally unhappy but still).
That it isn't pure negativity is surely evidenced by lower turnout at local than national elections. I doubt that's because local councillors are disliked more than MPs per se. It's probably just people feel less is riding on their vote.
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Parliament can pass whatever laws it likes, as we saw with Johnson's one line bill which brusquely overrode the fixed term parliament act in 2019. So it's time for MPs to exercise that right wrt the sentencing council.
The explanation in the letter of explanation which is on Guido's article is really excellent, and leaves Jenrick thoroughly debagged (imo). It points out that the Sentencing Minister of the Conservative Government expressed support, that ethnic minority offenders get more severe sentences for the same offences, that the Guidelines recommend PS reports be sued widely before listing particular categories, and that there is no link between such a report and a sentence, and they have found that sentences can be inappropriate for the circumstances of the offender in ways that could be addressed by a report.
It says they can have a more detailed explication if they want one, but even this one is 3000 words !
Remarkably my comment on Order Order has been referred for moderation.
Does this apply to all old pylons, coal tips, substations, power stations (thermal, solar, wind or whatever) and other general power infrastructure, or just new pylons in the south of England?
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Nope. You can't say they passively supported Trump any more than they passively supported Biden. Indeed many of those who didn't vote would not have supported either main candidate (passively or otherwise) hence their decision not to vote.
If you really object to both Biden and Trump, what do you do? If you don't vote are you passively supporting both candidates?
Yes, you are passively supporting whatever the outcome is, as you decided - potentially for good reasons - to not participate directly and defer to the judgement of your fellow citizens rather than take part. Politicians don't respond to non-participation, they only respond to participation.
The objection here seems to be it equates non-voters to Trump voters, which is not the point I was making. The point was if you are going to judge the level of Trump support, of about half, you cannot then decide to add in the ones who did not bother to vote at all to lower that percentage of support to make it seem less of a big deal than it is.
People may disagree with my 'passive support' metric, but it is a lot sillier to me to say someone got around 50% in an election but let's pretend that doesn't matter so much because a lot of people didn't vote so really his support was 30%. It can be true, but it meaningless since the numbers who actually vote are what matters.
If there is no one worth voting for why vote....for example lib dems, labour cons....all basically carry on as we are....greens and reform absolute fruit bats.....who do I vote for to actually make a difference....answer is no one worth voting for. You may find it silly and that is your right but you think there is someone worth your vote millions absolutely think they are all banhammers totally unworthy of pissing on if they were on fire let alone voting for
Voters of virtue and worth and moral integrity look down on the pitiful inadequacy of the choice before them.
With decisive eloquence they dismiss the life projects of the party poodles, confident in their own incorruptability and relatively towering judgement.
Thank God such paragons will never dirty their alabaster hands in the swill of politics.
Guys - forget the arguments about percentages. Trump won the majority of votes cast. Even in an electoral system when you vote for electors not the candidates, that still matters.
I've stood for election 6 times and lost 5 times. You get what you vote for and its always the correct result - especially when you lose.
America voted for Trump and all that is unleashed as a result. So far we have had exactly what it said on the tin - however crazy or damaging or destructive it has been, it was all promised in the campaign and people voted for it.
So often politicians disappoint by talking tough in a campaign and then doing little to nothing - or the opposite of their promises. Trump? All that he promised, decisively and rapidly.
Hitler and the Nazis won most votes in Germany in early 1933 and he did what he said he would do in a strong and decisive manner too, however when he started invading other countries the rest of Europe and the British Empire lost its patience with him. Russians have also elected Putin and his party multiple times
I think that's a great idea. Those that host the energy infrastructure that benefits all of us should be rewarded, particularly if it sees the value of their property decrease.
Parliament can pass whatever laws it likes, as we saw with Johnson's one line bill which brusquely overrode the fixed term parliament act in 2019. So it's time for MPs to exercise that right wrt the sentencing council.
The explanation in the letter of explanation which is on Guido's article is really excellent, and leaves Jenrick thoroughly debagged (imo). It points out that the Sentencing Minister of the Conservative Government expressed support, that ethnic minority offenders get more severe sentences for the same offences, that the Guidelines recommend PS reports be sued widely before listing particular categories, and that there is no link between such a report and a sentence, and they have found that sentences can be inappropriate for the circumstances of the offender in ways that could be addressed by a report.
It says they can have a more detailed explication if they want one, but even this one is 3000 words !
Remarkably my comment on Order Order has been referred for moderation.
Interesting logic
"Politicians are interfering in sentencing" by criticising a measure that, it is claimed, won't affect sentencing.
Guys - forget the arguments about percentages. Trump won the majority of votes cast. Even in an electoral system when you vote for electors not the candidates, that still matters.
I've stood for election 6 times and lost 5 times. You get what you vote for and its always the correct result - especially when you lose.
America voted for Trump and all that is unleashed as a result. So far we have had exactly what it said on the tin - however crazy or damaging or destructive it has been, it was all promised in the campaign and people voted for it.
So often politicians disappoint by talking tough in a campaign and then doing little to nothing - or the opposite of their promises. Trump? All that he promised, decisively and rapidly.
He said he would support Russia and treat Zelensky like a piece of shit?
Americans tend not to be rude so I doubt they expected it.
Heard Nathan Vance on PM this evening. A cousin of the VP, he has been fighting for Ukraine in recent years. Not only is the wrong Vance in the White House, it also reminded me that there are many, many Americans who are decent, moderate people that we have so much in common with. No matter how much Trump pisses us off, and he will, we need to remember that.
Most Americans do not appear to want this imperialistic aggrandisement. They want the southern border controlled and a decent living.
And yet most Americans voted for Trump, the man who got a crowd to attack Congress and threaten to hang his VP. It is a conundrum.
Actually that is not true as I am sure you must know.
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59% Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
Eh, if people didn't show up I count that as passive support for whomever ends up winning.
Nope. You can't say they passively supported Trump any more than they passively supported Biden. Indeed many of those who didn't vote would not have supported either main candidate (passively or otherwise) hence their decision not to vote.
If you really object to both Biden and Trump, what do you do? If you don't vote are you passively supporting both candidates?
Yes, you are passively supporting whatever the outcome is, as you decided - potentially for good reasons - to not participate directly and defer to the judgement of your fellow citizens rather than take part. Politicians don't respond to non-participation, they only respond to participation.
The objection here seems to be it equates non-voters to Trump voters, which is not the point I was making. The point was if you are going to judge the level of Trump support, of about half, you cannot then decide to add in the ones who did not bother to vote at all to lower that percentage of support to make it seem less of a big deal than it is.
People may disagree with my 'passive support' metric, but it is a lot sillier to me to say someone got around 50% in an election but let's pretend that doesn't matter so much because a lot of people didn't vote so really his support was 30%. It can be true, but it meaningless since the numbers who actually vote are what matters.
If there is no one worth voting for why vote....for example lib dems, labour cons....all basically carry on as we are....greens and reform absolute fruit bats.....who do I vote for to actually make a difference....answer is no one worth voting for. You may find it silly and that is your right but you think there is someone worth your vote millions absolutely think they are all banhammers totally unworthy of pissing on if they were on fire let alone voting for
Voters of virtue and worth and moral integrity look down on the pitiful inadequacy of the choice before them.
With decisive eloquence they dismiss the life projects of the party poodles, confident in their own incorruptability and relatively towering judgement.
Thank God such paragons will never dirty their alabaster hands in the swill of politics.
Yeah I agree with this. It's like "safe seats" which are seen as inviolable. Any party can win any seat.
If you don't vote you are your worst (political) enemy's bitch.
And you should forego your right to post on PB privileges.
It's interesting how unified Germany is, if you exclude the AfD supporters.
So basically Putin wants AfD, Le Pen or Melenchon, Reform and Confederation, Liberty and Independence wins in Europe and the GOP to stay in power in the USA
Does this apply to all old pylons, coal tips, substations, power stations (thermal, solar, wind or whatever) and other general power infrastructure, or just new pylons in the south of England?
You do realise TESLA is a key component of many peoples investment portfolios as well as index trackers and it falling just simply goes to the detriment of many people around the world.
You probably don’t give a shit about others, to be fair, as long as the libs own Musk.
I don't agree with the beating up of Rochdale over his YouTube channel but anything we can do to punish MAGA adjacent corporations is OK by me. Quietly cancelling my Amazon Prime membership however useful might be one small pain in Bezos's side. If enough cancel it will be a massive pain in his arse, and he might think twice about turning WaPo into the National Enquirer.
Forty years ago the Eliza Tinsley company broke South African sanctions and provided the Apartheid Government with chains and manacles to shackle Nelson Mandela to his cell wall in Roben Island. I have never subsequently bought any of their products. Bastards!
I agree, and IMV the bullying of Rochdale this morning was unseemly.
I took out a 30 day prime membership to get the Dr Who season 7 Blu-ray next day. I’ll cancel it. Also find it far cheaper to order directly for the sort of stuff I buy.
Thanks, but remember that bullying takes two. There was some attempted bullying, but it didn't succeed in bullying me.
People get het up in the middle of scandals crises and issues. I don't think anything was meant personally and it wasn't taken as such.
I did mean it personally.
You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
What makes me giggle is the line in bold. I don't write anything in support of Musk - unless you think me calling him a dick repeatedly is me supporting him. And I defined "free speech absolutist" - what I believe Musk's position to be - as "bloody stupid". Again, not in support.
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
Your mistake is thinking Musk and Tesla are separate. They should be, but they are not.
They're pretty separate these days - he spends next to no time involved in Tesla as he's too busy firing veterans with important government jobs. They launched the refresh of the best selling car in the world and he said nothing - your average CEO would be all over the media ramping the product. Musk? No longer sleeping on a cot in the Tesla factory, he's at Mar-a-Lago, the White House or sleeping on a cot at the US Treasury.
They really are not that separate. His little minions run things for him. Look at that massive bung they tried to get Musk.
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You can argue that there's no difference between promoting Teslas and buying an iphone if you want to be merely stupid.
But misrepresenting others by claiming they said if you don't sell your Tesla you're supporting the butchering of Ukraine, means you're dishonest so far as I am concerned. Which means I don't believe you sincerely believe any of the bollocks you write in support of Musk. Free speech absolutist my arse.
Sorry, but you are full of shit.
I asked him what he thought about the change in US policy. His response in English was, “What the fuck.”
https://x.com/CaptMarkKelly/status/1899092738085175400
Just to balance the argument.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-boris-farage-truss-kemi-b2712286.html
God Emperor of Dune is one of my all time favourite books. It is laced with penetrating observations and insight.
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Trump ordered the dismantling of the landing platform at Rzeszow airbase in Poland, the US has broken down warehouses and torn apart slabs of concrete on the runway to prevent further aid transports to Ukraine. Trump has no intention of resuming US aid to Ukraine. #StandWithUkraine
https://x.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1899119611968422031
Turnout as a percentage of Voting Age Population was 59%
Of those 59%, Trump got 49.8% of the vote.
So the actual % of Voting Age Population that voted for Trump was 29.4% - 77.3 million people out of a total population of an estimated 337 million.
So, unless the Courts start sanctioning them or reaching rapid rulings, it will be "No Budget" on Trump's side.
I'd say it will get to SCOTUS, and then Trump will lose.
But the message - we will come after you with an unlimited budget - will have gone out.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2417072122
.. Here, we define an early locus of avocado domestication using well-dated desiccated and carbonized avocado remains from El Gigante rockshelter in western Honduras spanning the last 11,000 y. Measurements of avocado seeds and rinds show evidence for long-term management resulting in selection for larger, more robust fruits through time that culminated by 2,250 to 2,080 calendar B.P. (cal. B.P.). However, human-directed selection for larger fruits with thicker rinds is evident as early as 7,565 to 7,265 cal. B.P.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1898904957224722503
Does make me giggle though so you've done that for me.
In the meantime I'll vote for the sensible, and hold my nose.
If you really object to both Biden and Trump, what do you do? If you don't vote are you passively supporting both candidates?
That's a valid choice which can be defended, but I think it's silly of someone in that situation to pretend sitting out is not passive acceptance of deferring to those who don't sit out. Non-voters should stand by their non-choice as much as those who make a choice - it's not equal, but it's still there.
LOL
It will be interesting to see at what point the other shareholders will try and force him out of governence of the company.
The objection here seems to be it equates non-voters to Trump voters, which is not the point I was making. The point was if you are going to judge the level of Trump support, of about half, you cannot then decide to add in the ones who did not bother to vote at all to lower that percentage of support to make it seem less of a big deal than it is.
People may disagree with my 'passive support' metric, but it is a lot sillier to me to say someone got around 50% in an election but let's pretend that doesn't matter so much because a lot of people didn't vote so really his support was 30%. It can be true, but it meaningless since the numbers who actually vote are what matters.
On checking the jungle scenes were taken in University of California Botanic Gardens, Riverside, California, USA.
I've stood for election 6 times and lost 5 times. You get what you vote for and its always the correct result - especially when you lose.
America voted for Trump and all that is unleashed as a result. So far we have had exactly what it said on the tin - however crazy or damaging or destructive it has been, it was all promised in the campaign and people voted for it.
So often politicians disappoint by talking tough in a campaign and then doing little to nothing - or the opposite of their promises. Trump? All that he promised, decisively and rapidly.
Per @POTUS directive, I have revoked security clearances and barred access to classified information for Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, Mark Zaid, Norman Eisen, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, and Andrew Weissman, along with the 51 signers of the Hunter Biden "disinformation" letter. The President's Daily Brief is no longer being provided to former President Biden
And you thought things couldn’t get any worse.
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2025/mar/10/ham-mozzarella-orange-australia-invents-new-topping-enrage-pizza-purists
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1899102477787574408
The Earl of Home waves.
Sell US equities, buy European bonds, tinned food and personal small arms.
And again, you're posting things that you think I have said and you think I have done and you think I think. Because That Fits Your Anger. But it's imagined.
I wouldn't impute any particular views on you beyond what you've said, but it's perhaps fair to say that you seem to regard the main parties with exactly equal hostility, which seems to me less than helpful. But you've an absolute right to it, of course!
Trump has over-reached. He's alarmed the foundations of American self-respect, and he's alarmed every one else too.
He's a stupid man. Much more stupid are the people that voted for him, and people like him.
In American English certainly, although it's more arguable in British English, "majority" means over 50% (which Trump didn't get) whereas "plurality" means more than anyone else but not more than 50% (which he did). Personally, I think American English has a good point here - it's a useful, if slightly fine, distinction.
But I'm not sure it's ultimately very helpful in this discussion - he won.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/mar/10/giving-senior-staff-a-desk-linked-with-junior-role-is-breach-of-uk-workplace-laws-tribunal-rules
That it isn't pure negativity is surely evidenced by lower turnout at local than national elections. I doubt that's because local councillors are disliked more than MPs per se. It's probably just people feel less is riding on their vote.
And the Conservatives ultimately lost the 1964 and 1966 general elections...
Bills to rise by 80p to fund discounts for homes near pylons
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyd49dxyxxo
Video of a counter-UAV net on the road near Bakhmut and a partially constructed Ukrainian net over a road in Kursk oblast.
https://x.com/RALee85/status/1898137529607696583
It says they can have a more detailed explication if they want one, but even this one is 3000 words !
Remarkably my comment on Order Order has been referred for moderation.
Does this apply to all old pylons, coal tips, substations, power stations (thermal, solar, wind or whatever) and other general power infrastructure, or just new pylons in the south of England?
With decisive eloquence they dismiss the life projects of the party poodles, confident in their own incorruptability and relatively towering judgement.
Thank God such paragons will never dirty their alabaster hands in the swill of politics.
He was elected in a by election after becoming PM and Carney will be a candidate in the next Canadian GE in a few months
"Politicians are interfering in sentencing" by criticising a measure that, it is claimed, won't affect sentencing.
Americans tend not to be rude so I doubt they expected it.
If you don't vote you are your worst (political) enemy's bitch.
And you should forego your right to post on PB privileges.
I'm not sure how it works in NiWS.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/dec/02/elon-musk-tesla-pay-package