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Still plenty of coal down there. We just need fit young men to dig it out. A quarter of a million would be about right, if we were aiming for a complete restoration. And we could also repeal the discriminatory Victorian legislation that bans women from the coal face. What a time to be alive.GIN1138 said:
Nigel's going to consign Thatcherism to history...HYUFD said:Reform UK will reindustrialise Britain.
https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/18951300001241829731 -
Basically, America is Gene Hackman, Europe is Gene Hackman’s wife, and Britain is the dog2
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What form did this endearing admission take?DavidL said:
When I was a kid the standard belief was that the US acknowledged that they had been late for the last 2 world wars but would make it up in the next one.Luckyguy1983 said:
Yes, and America became the dominant power of the 20th century because of their stance, and we became the sick man of Europe because of ours.MarqueeMark said:
Well, we held off the vast mass of the Nazi military might until the Americans got their shit together...williamglenn said:Brutal from Trump. Watch the comment from Starmer that triggers this remark:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1895188380968730850
Trump asks Starmer if the UK could take on Russia on its own
Next time round, I'll take the American option - they don't seem terribly ashamed of their war records.0 -
Our nuclear programme will last weeks without US support.Sean_F said:
Most of Russia is uninhabited. The UK and France have the ability to destroy the main population centres.HYUFD said:
Which could at most destroy Moscow and maybe St Petersburg while Putin wipes out the whole UK (and even with the French nukes only a few Russian cities more).Eabhal said:
There is a UK submarine ready to do just that.HYUFD said:
He is right, we couldn't militarily (though economically maybe) which is why all European NATO nations and Canada must work together to contain Putinwilliamglenn said:Brutal from Trump. Watch the comment from Starmer that triggers this remark:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1895188380968730850
Trump asks Starmer if the UK could take on Russia on its own
(Though that would not have been a sensible response from Starmer, in the circumstances).
Only the US has enough nukes to wipe out pretty much all of Russia
That's if they can even be fired without their support - recent tests are not a positive indication.0 -
it only needs to last 4 minutes...Luckyguy1983 said:Our nuclear programme will last weeks without US support.
That's if they can even be fired without their support - recent tests are not a positive indication.
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Farage attacking suspended sentence for Amesbury compared to '2 tier justice' of jail terms for tweeters in the riots (and the Reform MP for Basildon I assume years ago) in Reform rally in Hull1
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Whether we like it or not the UK is currently too reliant on the US for its defence .
You can’t just change that overnight .2 -
Because it suits us not to normalise relations with our enemies.Luckyguy1983 said:
What has invading Russia got to do with it? What I am saying is why would we not quickly de-escalate and normalise trade with Russia, if America, who is the driving force behind all our major foreign policy decisions, is going to normalise their own relations with Russia. We deal with plenty of other horrible people quite happily because it suits us.HYUFD said:
We aren't invading Russia are we, we are supplying aid and weapons to Ukraine as Russia invaded them on our continentLuckyguy1983 said:
So? Why should we continue to hold someone else's grudges if they're not even holding them any more?HYUFD said:
As we are on the same continent as he is and America aren't? The US are more focused on containing China than Russia now, militarily as well as economicallyLuckyguy1983 said:
Why should we bother to contain him if America is no longer interested? They were the ones who made it their business to poke him in the first place (yes, I know he shouldn't have launched an illegal and bloody invasion in response), now they're busy making friends with him and Europe is supposed to still be bitter enemies and shun Russia's cheap gas in favour of the American imported variety? Ummm, why?HYUFD said:
He is right, we couldn't militarily (though economically maybe) which is why all European NATO nations and Canada must work together to contain Putinwilliamglenn said:Brutal from Trump. Watch the comment from Starmer that triggers this remark:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1895188380968730850
Trump asks Starmer if the UK could take on Russia on its own
It's as stupid as paying for another country to have a military base for the next 99 years.
Russia is our enemy because of Russia's actions, not because America opposes Russia. That's what you don't seem to grasp with your inane belief we only oppose Russia because America wants us to. Quite the opposite, we've consistently been putting what pressure on America we can to ensure they oppose Russia just like us.5 -
We need to go full on alt.right Euro defensenico67 said:Whether we like it or not the UK is currently too reliant on the US for its defence .
You can’t just change that overnight .
Britain under reform shall be united with France under le pen, Germany under the AfD and Italy under Meloni
Then let’s make Europe great again - and able to defend our noble civilisation from the heathens0 -
Is that what you tell your Mrs?Scott_xP said:
it only needs to last 4 minutes...Luckyguy1983 said:Our nuclear programme will last weeks without US support.
That's if they can even be fired without their support - recent tests are not a positive indication.3 -
God, the TV is just Trump Trump Trump.
They should dub his voice with an actor like they used to with Gerry Adams.3 -
OMG that’s so funny .BartholomewRoberts said:
Is that what you tell your Mrs?Scott_xP said:
it only needs to last 4 minutes...Luckyguy1983 said:Our nuclear programme will last weeks without US support.
That's if they can even be fired without their support - recent tests are not a positive indication.1 -
Feck. How embarrassing.OldKingCole said:
His Mam came from the Outer Hebrides.DavidL said:
That is defamatory. I am sure he was Irish and German. I am deeply offended.HYUFD said:
Trump is half Scottish ancestry of courseCarnyx said:
KC has invited the President for another visit, in Scotland, dropping in en passant at Balmoral as one does, to plan everything properly for the big one, fide Graun feed.Nigelb said:
Does Starmer bear a grudge against Charles ?Mexicanpete said:
No, and the daft bastard has invited Trump, his wife and his diapers to Windsor Castle for a state visit.kinabalu said:
I wonder if the option of not going was considered.Mexicanpete said:
National humiliation number one in a series of 12.Scott_xP said:@Stone_SkyNews
🇺🇸🇬🇧 It seems that the union flag is flying upside down outside Blair House - the presidential guesthouse opposite the White House where PM Starmer is staying for his visit.
https://x.com/Stone_SkyNews/status/1895155785887277218
"PA Media has released extracts from King Charles’ letter to President Trump. Trump displayed the letter for the cameras, and so some of the wording was visible.
In the letter, the king invited the president to meet him in Scotland, either at Dumfries House or Balmoral, which are near Trump’s golf courses, ahead of a former state visit."
In polling atm he is the second worst rated President in history. Only beaten by a Donald J Trump in his first term.
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Erin Reed quotes SPARTA's estimate of 2941 junior enlisted + 647 junior officers + 10736 senior enlisted + 235 senior officers=14,559 warfighters. About 1% of the total.MattW said:
The last figure I saw was that this would affect 10-20,000 service people.AnneJGP said:
That'll give people an easy out if the USA ever needs to introduce conscription.HYUFD said:"U.S. service members who are transgender or otherwise exhibit gender dysphoria are prohibited from military service unless they obtain an exemption, according to an internal Pentagon memo.
The memo, revealed in a court filing on Wednesday night, details the Trump administration's new policy regarding transgender individuals. The policy notes that such service members "may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest."'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-transgender-troops-disqualified-from-service-without-exemption
(That's out of around 1.3 million - not sure how accurate I think the number is.)
To put that number in context
14,559 warfighters fired by Trump for being trans
13,488 warfighter casualties in the 42-country coalition in the Kuwait Gulf War 1990-1991
3,579 warfighter casualties in the 8 country coalition in Afghanistan 2001-2021
747 warfighter casualties in the 4 country coalition in the Iraq invasion 2003 (does not include the resultant war)
Total cost of firing those 14,559 people: $18billion (SPARTA estimate)
Sources: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/no-trumps-trans-military-ban-does for the trans figures, Wikipedia for the war estimates.0 -
Mainly school grounds jokes to be honest. It’s what happens when you grow up on army bases.Luckyguy1983 said:...
What form did this endearing admission take?DavidL said:
When I was a kid the standard belief was that the US acknowledged that they had been late for the last 2 world wars but would make it up in the next one.Luckyguy1983 said:
Yes, and America became the dominant power of the 20th century because of their stance, and we became the sick man of Europe because of ours.MarqueeMark said:
Well, we held off the vast mass of the Nazi military might until the Americans got their shit together...williamglenn said:Brutal from Trump. Watch the comment from Starmer that triggers this remark:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1895188380968730850
Trump asks Starmer if the UK could take on Russia on its own
Next time round, I'll take the American option - they don't seem terribly ashamed of their war records.0 -
The largest navy in the world rather helped there. Plus the Nazis only way across way flat river barges…MarqueeMark said:
Well, we held off the vast mass of the Nazi military might until the Americans got their shit together...williamglenn said:Brutal from Trump. Watch the comment from Starmer that triggers this remark:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1895188380968730850
Trump asks Starmer if the UK could take on Russia on its own1 -
Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.1
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Is warfighter the new politically correct word for soldier?viewcode said:
Erin Reed quotes SPARTA's estimate of 2941 junior enlisted + 647 junior officers + 10736 senior enlisted + 235 senior officers=14,559 warfighters. About 1% of the total.MattW said:
The last figure I saw was that this would affect 10-20,000 service people.AnneJGP said:
That'll give people an easy out if the USA ever needs to introduce conscription.HYUFD said:"U.S. service members who are transgender or otherwise exhibit gender dysphoria are prohibited from military service unless they obtain an exemption, according to an internal Pentagon memo.
The memo, revealed in a court filing on Wednesday night, details the Trump administration's new policy regarding transgender individuals. The policy notes that such service members "may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest."'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-transgender-troops-disqualified-from-service-without-exemption
(That's out of around 1.3 million - not sure how accurate I think the number is.)
To put that number in context
14,559 warfighters fired by Trump for being trans
13,488 warfighter casualties in the 42-country coalition in the Kuwait Gulf War 1990-1991
3,579 warfighter casualties in the 8 country coalition in Afghanistan 2001-2021
747 warfighter casualties in the 4 country coalition in the Iraq invasion 2003 (does not include the resultant war)
Total cost of firing those 14,559 people: $18billion (SPARTA estimate)
Sources: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/no-trumps-trans-military-ban-does for the trans figures, Wikipedia for the war estimates.0 -
Why would Trump back such a terrible deal?0
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...no, it's the 10-20yr old politically correct word for "soldier/sailor/airman/coastguard/marine/guardian", where "guardian" is the term for a warfighter in the Space Force. [EDIT: I'm not sure about "coastguard", but they are a branch, so they may be?]turbotubbs said:
Is warfighter the new politically correct word for soldier?viewcode said:
Erin Reed quotes SPARTA's estimate of 2941 junior enlisted + 647 junior officers + 10736 senior enlisted + 235 senior officers=14,559 warfighters. About 1% of the total.MattW said:
The last figure I saw was that this would affect 10-20,000 service people.AnneJGP said:
That'll give people an easy out if the USA ever needs to introduce conscription.HYUFD said:"U.S. service members who are transgender or otherwise exhibit gender dysphoria are prohibited from military service unless they obtain an exemption, according to an internal Pentagon memo.
The memo, revealed in a court filing on Wednesday night, details the Trump administration's new policy regarding transgender individuals. The policy notes that such service members "may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest."'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-transgender-troops-disqualified-from-service-without-exemption
(That's out of around 1.3 million - not sure how accurate I think the number is.)
To put that number in context
14,559 warfighters fired by Trump for being trans
13,488 warfighter casualties in the 42-country coalition in the Kuwait Gulf War 1990-1991
3,579 warfighter casualties in the 8 country coalition in Afghanistan 2001-2021
747 warfighter casualties in the 4 country coalition in the Iraq invasion 2003 (does not include the resultant war)
Total cost of firing those 14,559 people: $18billion (SPARTA estimate)
Sources: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/no-trumps-trans-military-ban-does for the trans figures, Wikipedia for the war estimates.0 -
MEGA ?Leon said:
We need to go full on alt.right Euro defensenico67 said:Whether we like it or not the UK is currently too reliant on the US for its defence .
You can’t just change that overnight .
Britain under reform shall be united with France under le pen, Germany under the AfD and Italy under Meloni
Then let’s make Europe great again - and able to defend our noble civilisation from the heathens
Brexit may have been wiser than I thought.
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Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.1
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To be clear: there are 14,000 US soldiers who were born a different sex from the one they now identify as? I find that incredible, if so.viewcode said:
Erin Reed quotes SPARTA's estimate of 2941 junior enlisted + 647 junior officers + 10736 senior enlisted + 235 senior officers=14,559 warfighters. About 1% of the total.MattW said:
The last figure I saw was that this would affect 10-20,000 service people.AnneJGP said:
That'll give people an easy out if the USA ever needs to introduce conscription.HYUFD said:"U.S. service members who are transgender or otherwise exhibit gender dysphoria are prohibited from military service unless they obtain an exemption, according to an internal Pentagon memo.
The memo, revealed in a court filing on Wednesday night, details the Trump administration's new policy regarding transgender individuals. The policy notes that such service members "may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest."'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-transgender-troops-disqualified-from-service-without-exemption
(That's out of around 1.3 million - not sure how accurate I think the number is.)
To put that number in context
14,559 warfighters fired by Trump for being trans
13,488 warfighter casualties in the 42-country coalition in the Kuwait Gulf War 1990-1991
3,579 warfighter casualties in the 8 country coalition in Afghanistan 2001-2021
747 warfighter casualties in the 4 country coalition in the Iraq invasion 2003 (does not include the resultant war)
Total cost of firing those 14,559 people: $18billion (SPARTA estimate)
Sources: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/no-trumps-trans-military-ban-does for the trans figures, Wikipedia for the war estimates.0 -
Starmer is grotesque. A moral narcissist who is actually an amoral slugTimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
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Farage (along with the rest of REF and CON) is looking a complete and utter fool tonight, after Trump gave his backing to Starmers Chagos deal.HYUFD said:Farage attacking suspended sentence for Amesbury compared to '2 tier justice' of jail terms for tweeters in the riots (and the Reform MP for Basildon I assume years ago) in Reform rally in Hull
In the long run is may benefit Farage if he decides to cool things down with Donald from here on in but for now it's a bad night for Nigel.1 -
I have never seen it before tonight (or at least not noticed it!).viewcode said:
...no, it's the 10-20yr old politically correct word for "soldier/sailor/airman/coastguard/marine/guardian", where "guardian" is the term for a warfighter in the Space Force. [EDIT: I'm not sure about "coastguard", but they are a branch, so they may be?]turbotubbs said:
Is warfighter the new politically correct word for soldier?viewcode said:
Erin Reed quotes SPARTA's estimate of 2941 junior enlisted + 647 junior officers + 10736 senior enlisted + 235 senior officers=14,559 warfighters. About 1% of the total.MattW said:
The last figure I saw was that this would affect 10-20,000 service people.AnneJGP said:
That'll give people an easy out if the USA ever needs to introduce conscription.HYUFD said:"U.S. service members who are transgender or otherwise exhibit gender dysphoria are prohibited from military service unless they obtain an exemption, according to an internal Pentagon memo.
The memo, revealed in a court filing on Wednesday night, details the Trump administration's new policy regarding transgender individuals. The policy notes that such service members "may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest."'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-transgender-troops-disqualified-from-service-without-exemption
(That's out of around 1.3 million - not sure how accurate I think the number is.)
To put that number in context
14,559 warfighters fired by Trump for being trans
13,488 warfighter casualties in the 42-country coalition in the Kuwait Gulf War 1990-1991
3,579 warfighter casualties in the 8 country coalition in Afghanistan 2001-2021
747 warfighter casualties in the 4 country coalition in the Iraq invasion 2003 (does not include the resultant war)
Total cost of firing those 14,559 people: $18billion (SPARTA estimate)
Sources: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/no-trumps-trans-military-ban-does for the trans figures, Wikipedia for the war estimates.3 -
Probably all true. However, he's also starting to look a little bit like a winner and that's the name of the game...Leon said:
Starmer is grotesque. A moral narcissist who is actually an amoral slugTimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
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https://x.com/yuanyi_z/status/1895178872272101855
Harold Wilson deported Chagossians from their homeland. Tony Blair banned them from ever returning. And now Keir Starmer is paying Mauritius to give away their homeland without their consent. This will be an everlasting moral stain on the Labour Party.2 -
About as subtle as eating a durian on a Singapore underground train.TheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
Did you see my reference to my recent holiday?2 -
It was unmissable. Your expectations are too great in these hard times, and our old curiosity to spot all the references has become not a tale of two cities but a tale told by an idiot signifying nothing.TheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
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I’ve only had a bottle of Sauvignon blanc. What the hell have you been drinking?BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
FOMO.
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They already haveTimS said:God, the TV is just Trump Trump Trump.
They should dub his voice with an actor like they used to with Gerry Adams.0 -
Britain and France between them have about 525 nuclear warheads. About a third of them are ready for launch. I would suggest that would do rather more damage than just Moscow and St PetersburgHYUFD said:
Which could at most destroy Moscow and maybe St Petersburg while Putin wipes out the whole UK (and even with the French nukes only a few Russian cities more).Eabhal said:
There is a UK submarine ready to do just that.HYUFD said:
He is right, we couldn't militarily (though economically maybe) which is why all European NATO nations and Canada must work together to contain Putinwilliamglenn said:Brutal from Trump. Watch the comment from Starmer that triggers this remark:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1895188380968730850
Trump asks Starmer if the UK could take on Russia on its own
(Though that would not have been a sensible response from Starmer, in the circumstances).
Only the US has enough nukes to wipe out pretty much all of Russia
For the record I am not advocating this nor do I think (hope) we would ever do it. But your claims are ratherwide of the mark.
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It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.1 -
It is a far far better thing you do than you have ever doneTheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
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If SPARTA is correct, then there are 14,559 who were born a different sex from the one they now identify as and are known to be so. There is a waiver for those who have never transitioned and are willing to remain in the closet. I don't know how to estimate the latter number.Cookie said:
To be clear: there are 14,000 US soldiers who were born a different sex from the one they now identify as? I find that incredible, if so.viewcode said:
Erin Reed quotes SPARTA's estimate of 2941 junior enlisted + 647 junior officers + 10736 senior enlisted + 235 senior officers=14,559 warfighters. About 1% of the total.MattW said:
The last figure I saw was that this would affect 10-20,000 service people.AnneJGP said:
That'll give people an easy out if the USA ever needs to introduce conscription.HYUFD said:"U.S. service members who are transgender or otherwise exhibit gender dysphoria are prohibited from military service unless they obtain an exemption, according to an internal Pentagon memo.
The memo, revealed in a court filing on Wednesday night, details the Trump administration's new policy regarding transgender individuals. The policy notes that such service members "may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest."'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-transgender-troops-disqualified-from-service-without-exemption
(That's out of around 1.3 million - not sure how accurate I think the number is.)
To put that number in context
14,559 warfighters fired by Trump for being trans
13,488 warfighter casualties in the 42-country coalition in the Kuwait Gulf War 1990-1991
3,579 warfighter casualties in the 8 country coalition in Afghanistan 2001-2021
747 warfighter casualties in the 4 country coalition in the Iraq invasion 2003 (does not include the resultant war)
Total cost of firing those 14,559 people: $18billion (SPARTA estimate)
Sources: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/no-trumps-trans-military-ban-does for the trans figures, Wikipedia for the war estimates.
Remember the Law of Large Numbers and "rare is not the same as infrequent". If there are 1.3million warfighters currently enlisted, then a trans population in the 1,500 to 15,000 range is not implausible, especially if benefits are part of the package.1 -
I noticed you left the rest.Richard_Tyndall said:
It is a far far better thing you do than you have ever doneTheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
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I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.0 -
I think that counts as a win as far as Trump's concerned.TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.1 -
Thats because it is a far far better restydoethur said:
I noticed you left the rest.Richard_Tyndall said:
It is a far far better thing you do than you have ever doneTheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
I'll get my coat.3 -
Starter is playing Palmerston - protecting UK national interest as he sees it. Time will tell .TimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
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If Charles was really serious about a second Trump state visit he would have talked up the scummiest bit of Glasgow.0
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If Trump wants to fire 15,000 good quality troops, and we need to expand our armed forces…viewcode said:
Erin Reed quotes SPARTA's estimate of 2941 junior enlisted + 647 junior officers + 10736 senior enlisted + 235 senior officers=14,559 warfighters. About 1% of the total.MattW said:
The last figure I saw was that this would affect 10-20,000 service people.AnneJGP said:
That'll give people an easy out if the USA ever needs to introduce conscription.HYUFD said:"U.S. service members who are transgender or otherwise exhibit gender dysphoria are prohibited from military service unless they obtain an exemption, according to an internal Pentagon memo.
The memo, revealed in a court filing on Wednesday night, details the Trump administration's new policy regarding transgender individuals. The policy notes that such service members "may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest."'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-transgender-troops-disqualified-from-service-without-exemption
(That's out of around 1.3 million - not sure how accurate I think the number is.)
To put that number in context
14,559 warfighters fired by Trump for being trans
13,488 warfighter casualties in the 42-country coalition in the Kuwait Gulf War 1990-1991
3,579 warfighter casualties in the 8 country coalition in Afghanistan 2001-2021
747 warfighter casualties in the 4 country coalition in the Iraq invasion 2003 (does not include the resultant war)
Total cost of firing those 14,559 people: $18billion (SPARTA estimate)
Sources: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/no-trumps-trans-military-ban-does for the trans figures, Wikipedia for the war estimates.0 -
Sorry, I missed it.stodge said:
About as subtle as eating a durian on a Singapore underground train.TheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
Did you see my reference to my recent holiday?0 -
Plenty of children, too, could dig for coal. Little fingers make for little wages.Alphabet_Soup said:
Still plenty of coal down there. We just need fit young men to dig it out. A quarter of a million would be about right, if we were aiming for a complete restoration. And we could also repeal the discriminatory Victorian legislation that bans women from the coal face. What a time to be alive.GIN1138 said:
Nigel's going to consign Thatcherism to history...HYUFD said:Reform UK will reindustrialise Britain.
https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/18951300001241829733 -
What it definitely wasn’t was a Love Actually moment. He didn’t stand up to Trump. He sucked up to him. Was that the best thing for UK plc? Not sure. It’s not an easy question to answer. But it probably wasn’t the best outcome for Starmer and the fact that he would have known that is to his credit.TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.1 -
Starmer was okay minus the over the top fawning when he handed the invitation for a state visit .TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.0 -
Press conference about to start live on Skynico67 said:
Starmer was okay minus the over the top fawning when he handed the invitation for a state visit .TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.0 -
Except the AfD lost in Germany, Meloni is only in a coalition government with centre right Forza Italia, Le Pen needs LR voters support to win in the runoff in 2027 and Reform can't govern without Tory support either, so you would need the centre right tooLeon said:
We need to go full on alt.right Euro defensenico67 said:Whether we like it or not the UK is currently too reliant on the US for its defence .
You can’t just change that overnight .
Britain under reform shall be united with France under le pen, Germany under the AfD and Italy under Meloni
Then let’s make Europe great again - and able to defend our noble civilisation from the heathens1 -
That, I have ever known.Richard_Tyndall said:
Thats because it is a far far better restydoethur said:
I noticed you left the rest.Richard_Tyndall said:
It is a far far better thing you do than you have ever doneTheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
I'll get my coat.1 -
Slugs combine their slime with more charisma to be fairLeon said:
Starmer is grotesque. A moral narcissist who is actually an amoral slugTimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
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As long as Putin thinks we might, given the provocation...Richard_Tyndall said:
Britain and France between them have about 525 nuclear warheads. About a third of them are ready for launch. I would suggest that would do rather more damage than just Moscow and St PetersburgHYUFD said:
Which could at most destroy Moscow and maybe St Petersburg while Putin wipes out the whole UK (and even with the French nukes only a few Russian cities more).Eabhal said:
There is a UK submarine ready to do just that.HYUFD said:
He is right, we couldn't militarily (though economically maybe) which is why all European NATO nations and Canada must work together to contain Putinwilliamglenn said:Brutal from Trump. Watch the comment from Starmer that triggers this remark:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1895188380968730850
Trump asks Starmer if the UK could take on Russia on its own
(Though that would not have been a sensible response from Starmer, in the circumstances).
Only the US has enough nukes to wipe out pretty much all of Russia
For the record I am not advocating this nor do I think (hope) we would ever do it. But your claims are ratherwide of the mark.1 -
I find it a bit precious, and it's the kind of thing you find in official documents or formal correspondence, but it is definitely a thing. It's one of those useful terms like "casualty" wherre you don't have to specify further. A "casualty" is one who cannot fight and includes dead, wounded, prisoners, and people who are hiding under the table.turbotubbs said:
I have never seen it before tonight (or at least not noticed it!).viewcode said:
...no, it's the 10-20yr old politically correct word for "soldier/sailor/airman/coastguard/marine/guardian", where "guardian" is the term for a warfighter in the Space Force. [EDIT: I'm not sure about "coastguard", but they are a branch, so they may be?]turbotubbs said:
Is warfighter the new politically correct word for soldier?viewcode said:
Erin Reed quotes SPARTA's estimate of 2941 junior enlisted + 647 junior officers + 10736 senior enlisted + 235 senior officers=14,559 warfighters. About 1% of the total.MattW said:
The last figure I saw was that this would affect 10-20,000 service people.AnneJGP said:
That'll give people an easy out if the USA ever needs to introduce conscription.HYUFD said:"U.S. service members who are transgender or otherwise exhibit gender dysphoria are prohibited from military service unless they obtain an exemption, according to an internal Pentagon memo.
The memo, revealed in a court filing on Wednesday night, details the Trump administration's new policy regarding transgender individuals. The policy notes that such service members "may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest."'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-transgender-troops-disqualified-from-service-without-exemption
(That's out of around 1.3 million - not sure how accurate I think the number is.)
To put that number in context
14,559 warfighters fired by Trump for being trans
13,488 warfighter casualties in the 42-country coalition in the Kuwait Gulf War 1990-1991
3,579 warfighter casualties in the 8 country coalition in Afghanistan 2001-2021
747 warfighter casualties in the 4 country coalition in the Iraq invasion 2003 (does not include the resultant war)
Total cost of firing those 14,559 people: $18billion (SPARTA estimate)
Sources: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/no-trumps-trans-military-ban-does for the trans figures, Wikipedia for the war estimates.0 -
To be fair Trump didn’t say anything provocative about the UK. Considering the attitude of Musk and Vance towards us that’s at least something. But Trump just straight out lied about our allies, countries we’re going to need to work with to defend Ukraine in future, and I think that ignoring this was, well, a choice, but an unfortunate one.DavidL said:
What it definitely wasn’t was a Love Actually moment. He didn’t stand up to Trump. He sucked up to him. Was that the best thing for UK plc? Not sure. It’s not an easy question to answer. But it probably wasn’t the best outcome for Starmer and the fact that he would have known that is to his credit.TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.3 -
No doubt the word "perfidious" comes to Macron as he watches the snake charmer's anticsTimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
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"Very tough negotiator".
Yes. The new Attlee.0 -
Inevitably...TheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
Kirk: oh by the way thank you for this
Spock: I know of your fondness for antiques
Kirk: it was the best of times it was the worst of times...message, Spock?
Spock: none that I'm conscious of. Except of course "happy birthday": surely the best of times...1 -
Macron behaved like a statesman. Starmer has behaved like a poodle.geoffw said:
No doubt the word "perfidious" comes to Macron as he watches the snake charmer's anticsTimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
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Not having a TV I haven't seen Sir Keir answering questions off the cuff. Is he normally able to do that or is he the sort of person who can't find the immediate response? I'm a delayed action type myself so I know how awkward it can be.TimS said:
To be fair Trump didn’t say anything provocative about the UK. Considering the attitude of Musk and Vance towards us that’s at least something. But Trump just straight out lied about our allies, countries we’re going to need to work with to defend Ukraine in future, and I think that ignoring this was, well, a choice, but an unfortunate one.DavidL said:
What it definitely wasn’t was a Love Actually moment. He didn’t stand up to Trump. He sucked up to him. Was that the best thing for UK plc? Not sure. It’s not an easy question to answer. But it probably wasn’t the best outcome for Starmer and the fact that he would have known that is to his credit.TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.0 -
I think he’s a delayed action type.AnneJGP said:
Not having a TV I haven't seen Sir Keir answering questions off the cuff. Is he normally able to do that or is he the sort of person who can't find the immediate response? I'm a delayed action type myself so I know how awkward it can be.TimS said:
To be fair Trump didn’t say anything provocative about the UK. Considering the attitude of Musk and Vance towards us that’s at least something. But Trump just straight out lied about our allies, countries we’re going to need to work with to defend Ukraine in future, and I think that ignoring this was, well, a choice, but an unfortunate one.DavidL said:
What it definitely wasn’t was a Love Actually moment. He didn’t stand up to Trump. He sucked up to him. Was that the best thing for UK plc? Not sure. It’s not an easy question to answer. But it probably wasn’t the best outcome for Starmer and the fact that he would have known that is to his credit.TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.1 -
Clever move by Starmer to be fair, turn Trump's biggest weakness against him.nico67 said:
Starmer was okay minus the over the top fawning when he handed the invitation for a state visit .TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.
Trump is a preening narcissist, a disgrace to the Oval Office and unfit to be President - but like it or not he is President.
So what better way to manage such a preening narcissist but to gift him a mirror and say "oh look how special you are".
Of course the self-absorbed Trump is going to want the State Visit and he's going to want to ensure things work out well for it. So he'll reinforce the 'special relationship' not because he cares for the UK, nor because he cares for America, but because he cares first and foremost about himself and Starmer has tapped into that vanity with a shiny bauble.3 -
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Absolutely.BartholomewRoberts said:
Clever move by Starmer to be fair, turn Trump's biggest weakness against him.nico67 said:
Starmer was okay minus the over the top fawning when he handed the invitation for a state visit .TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.
Trump is a preening narcissist, a disgrace to the Oval Office and unfit to be President - but like it or not he is President.
So what better way to manage such a preening narcissist but to gift him a mirror and say "oh look how special you are".
Of course the self-absorbed Trump is going to want the State Visit and he's going to want to ensure things work out well for it. So he'll reinforce the 'special relationship' not because he cares for the UK, nor because he cares for America, but because he cares first and foremost about himself and Starmer has tapped into that vanity with a shiny bauble.0 -
Off topic, but as it's your birthday, have you been to Sheriffmuir? Not just the WArs of the Covenant battlefield, but the D-Day demonstration Atlantikwall to the north? Still battered by AVREs, Petards, whatnot.DavidL said:
I’ve only had a bottle of Sauvignon blanc. What the hell have you been drinking?BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
FOMO.
The moor is the same slope as the D-Day beaches. And you can see - if you know where to look (esp. to the W of the road near the little elbow) - the U-shaped earthworks which were the dummy landing craft where the demonstration tanks started their attack runs. And the tank tracks in some places.
(But one has to be careful on the moor - too many Great WAr training trenches full of old barbed wire.)
I think there's an article online in the Forth Naturalist & Historian somewhere. Definitely worth taking if you go - it has air photos.0 -
Starmer is working incredibly hard here. The thing about the Churchill bust was nauseating but went down incredibly well with Trump.
I am very torn on all this. He must have chanted "national interest" to himself the whole way across the Atlantic.3 -
Starmer promises that we are ready to come to the aid of the US wherever required.
He'll probably have us offering troops to take on the Mexican cartels.1 -
Three months and 13,000 miles removed and I still don't know what to make of Starmer.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
I suspect, like most incoming Prime Ministers, he had an idea of the job but the reality has been somewhat different. His "honeymoon" was even shorter than Johnson's and he has inherited an angry and disillusioned electorate who want "change" but not perhaps the kind he wants and almost certainly more than he knows we can afford at this time.
Having seen an incoming "centre right" Government in New Zealand about nine months further down the road, I can assure him it won't get any easier. Christopher Luxon and Nicola Willis are going through all the pain and vitriol Starmer and Reeves are enduring and the truth is their "quasi-Thatcherite" approach of cutting spending and offering tax cuts isn't proving any more popular or effective.
The only political advantage Luxon has is his equivalent of Reform are behind him on the Government benches.
The other fascinating area is the response to the second Trump administration. I find Trump hard to evaluate - good ideas and noble sentiments are wrapped in a deeply unpleasant adversarial and often nonsensical package.
Take Gaza - the idea of pouring billions in to rebuild and reconstruct the Gaza Strip is fine and noble and a temporary spell of US or UN administration to facilitate that not unappealing and temporary relocation of the Palestinian population during the rebuilding process not without merit BUT the Gazans don't, I suspect, want to live on a Middle East version of the Las Vegas Strip nor so they want to be economically and politically beholden in perpetuity to their erstwhile benefactors.
Oddly enough, they probably want what most people want - peace, jobs, prosperity, decent schools and public services (they might not want to pay for them but that's a different question). Given the vast amounts of money in the region, it seems beyond crazy the Gazans have to live in bombed out ruins and if I were Trump, I'd be making some calls to the rules of Saudi Arabia and the UAE reminding them of their obligations.I'd also be reminding the Israelis of the old adage people who were busy making money are usually too busy to be making trouble.2 -
Macron was oleaginousRichard_Tyndall said:
Macron behaved like a statesman. Starmer has behaved like a poodle.geoffw said:
No doubt the word "perfidious" comes to Macron as he watches the snake charmer's anticsTimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
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Give over. This is hideous national humiliationEabhal said:Starmer is working incredibly hard here. The thing about the Churchill bust was nauseating but went down incredibly well with Trump.
I am very torn on all this. He must have chanted "national interest" to himself the whole way across the Atlantic.0 -
Starmer has probably done as well as he could have done, given the UK's hopelessly compromised dependency on a country run by a malevolent lunatic.DavidL said:
What it definitely wasn’t was a Love Actually moment. He didn’t stand up to Trump. He sucked up to him. Was that the best thing for UK plc? Not sure. It’s not an easy question to answer. But it probably wasn’t the best outcome for Starmer and the fact that he would have known that is to his credit.TimS said:
I thought he looked like a plonker.GIN1138 said:
It's a good day/night for SKS. No getting away from that.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer has utterly rinsed his critics. He is the best PM we could have chosen.
In the end, I doubt any of this will make much difference to the next election and the important story of the week in terms of domestic politics, was energy bills rising AGAIN - But the more "wins" SKS can get, the more he looks like a winner.3 -
Tbh, I think Starmer playing this as well as he can.1
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Because firstly, he's a bit shit at dealmaking, and secondly, and more importantly, he's not paying for it.,BatteryCorrectHorse said:Why would Trump back such a terrible deal?
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And somehow paying Mexicowilliamglenn said:Starmer promises that we are ready to come to the aid of the US wherever required.
He'll probably have us offering troops to take on the Mexican cartels.0 -
It's deeply distressing but it's the difference between a PB poster and PM. I think almost all of us would have ended up attempting something similar, to varying degrees of success.GIN1138 said:
SKS is doing great! This is easily his best day since he became PM.Eabhal said:Starmer is working incredibly hard here. The thing about the Churchill bust was nauseating but went down incredibly well with Trump.
I am very torn.3 -
SKS:It's not about taking part. It's about winning.
Who would ever have thought he'd have it in him to talk the language of The Donald? 😂0 -
Starmer is massively "outrighting" the right. I wonder how long he can sustain it with his party.GIN1138 said:
SKS is doing great! This is easily his best day since he became PM.Eabhal said:Starmer is working incredibly hard here. The thing about the Churchill bust was nauseating but went down incredibly well with Trump.
I am very torn.0 -
He’s better in the press conference than before. Very clear on Ukraine.Razedabode said:Tbh, I think Starmer playing this as well as he can.
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Interesting first question from the press. Domestic stuff is causing Trump some serious issues.0
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That's a Little Bleak towards our mutual friend.algarkirk said:
It was unmissable. Your expectations are too great in these hard times, and our old curiosity to spot all the references has become not a tale of two cities but a tale told by an idiot signifying nothing.TheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
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If SKS gets a polling bounce in the next couple of weeks he should use it to sack Rachel (and probably Milliband)2
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A Labouradoodle at least.Richard_Tyndall said:
Macron behaved like a statesman. Starmer has behaved like a poodle.geoffw said:
No doubt the word "perfidious" comes to Macron as he watches the snake charmer's anticsTimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
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They should record this and do away with the need for Economics professors.0
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SKS says there's no divide with Trump over Canada.0
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How does he do that? Rejoining the EU perhaps.HYUFD said:Reform UK will reindustrialise Britain.
https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/18951300001241829730 -
Rumour is he's got a Little Dorrit.Nigelb said:
That's a Little Bleak towards our mutual friend.algarkirk said:
It was unmissable. Your expectations are too great in these hard times, and our old curiosity to spot all the references has become not a tale of two cities but a tale told by an idiot signifying nothing.TheScreamingEagles said:Disappointed none of you Philistines have picked up on my subtle reference to Charles Dickens.
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Starmer's people have obviously looked at how the Japanese PM "handled" Trump a few weeks back and we're now seeing a clear pattern. It's Trump's house so it's Trump's rules - he leads and controls the discussion and that's fine.GIN1138 said:SKS:It's not about taking part. It's about winning.
Who would ever have thought he'd have it in him to talk the language of The Donald? 😂
There is a geopolitical reality at work here - you can't simply go to the Oval Office and have a sit down or stand up argument with Trump and Vance in public and expect it to end well. The Americans are the most powerful nation on the planet and that's the reality. Tact and diplomacy go a long way.
Those who are not well disposed toward Starmer might want to ask themselves what Badenoch or Farage would say or do different - short answer, nothing. It's not Reagan/Thatcher or even Blair/GW Bush or even Cameron/Obama but that doesn't mean we can't "do busines" with Washington because, to be blunt, we have to.3 -
The mango Mussolini is helping the Canadian Libs bigly. I wish I’d made a larger bet at that 11/1 back in January.FF43 said:
Trump complains Canada is not stopping fentanyl being smuggled to the USA. Which is true. It's all going the other way.Luckyguy1983 said:
What is the border drug issue with Canada? It's the first I've heard of it.HYUFD said:Trump says he will impose an additional 10% tariff on Chinese imports to the US and confirms he will go ahead with 25% tariffs on Canadian and Mexican imports from next week as neither nation had done enough on border security and drug trafficking to merit further suspension of them. Trump also says 25% tariffs on EU imports will be coming 'soon.'
So the great global trade war of 2025 is now underway, albeit as Starmer visits Trump in DC the UK is not being targeted specifically yet
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8yy3wpn6eo
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Indeed.williamglenn said:SKS says there's no divide with Trump over Canada.
We both think the same thing - that its ours.5 -
I think that's a good take. But like Japan our actions and words will likely have to differ. Praise Trump, say everything is fine, and prepare for the worst.stodge said:
Starmer's people have obviously looked at how the Japanese PM "handled" Trump a few weeks back and we're now seeing a clear pattern. It's Trump's house so it's Trump's rules - he leads and controls the discussion and that's fine.GIN1138 said:SKS:It's not about taking part. It's about winning.
Who would ever have thought he'd have it in him to talk the language of The Donald? 😂1 -
Though for all his faults Starmer does look to have avoided for the UK's exporters the 20% tariffs Trump has imposed on Chinese exports to the US and the 25% tariffs he has confirmed he will impose next month on Canadian, Mexican and EU exporters to the USLeon said:
Give over. This is hideous national humiliationEabhal said:Starmer is working incredibly hard here. The thing about the Churchill bust was nauseating but went down incredibly well with Trump.
I am very torn on all this. He must have chanted "national interest" to himself the whole way across the Atlantic.0 -
Starmer now sells out Canada. He could have said something simple like “I know Donald is just joking about this. Look, Canada is one of Britain’s and America’s closest allies, a member of 5 eyes, and I think we all agree that”.
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I see OpenAI have released (sort of) GPT4.5. Roughly 40 to 70x the cost of their previous 'omg amazing you should be in awe' model. I tried to get the previous one to add some markdown formatting to a document earlier and it 'thought' and 'thought' about it for four minutes, then failed to even add a ## tag to the original text.
(Some other things - it is amazing at, but... really. A quid's worth to have it just echo stdin to stdout?)
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MAGA are planning the use of pirates for that...williamglenn said:Starmer promises that we are ready to come to the aid of the US wherever required.
He'll probably have us offering troops to take on the Mexican cartels.
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That's what will "do" for Trump and the MAGA fanatics. As I reminded someone the other day, it's not the big things which cause you real problems, it's the little things.Eabhal said:Interesting first question from the press. Domestic stuff is causing Trump some serious issues.
IF Americans come to feel worse off under Trump, enough of them will peel away from the Republicans to give the Democrats a real chance.
That's where politics is - incoming administrations replacing outgoing deeply unpopular administrations on a message of "change" themselves become deeply unpopular when they fail to deliver that "change" (whatever that is and however it's perceived). They are themselves then replaced by either another iteration of the previous Government or by something different ("radical change") which in turn fails to deliver.0 -
Only issue is we have more of a code of honour than the MAGA lot do.Nigelb said:
MAGA are planning the use of pirates for that...williamglenn said:Starmer promises that we are ready to come to the aid of the US wherever required.
He'll probably have us offering troops to take on the Mexican cartels.
https://x.com/Mediaite/status/18950966805312840622 -
Urchins down mines and under looms?Mexicanpete said:
How does he do that? Rejoining the EU perhaps.HYUFD said:Reform UK will reindustrialise Britain.
https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/18951300001241829731 -
ArschleckerLeon said:
Macron was oleaginousRichard_Tyndall said:
Macron behaved like a statesman. Starmer has behaved like a poodle.geoffw said:
No doubt the word "perfidious" comes to Macron as he watches the snake charmer's anticsTimS said:Oh I see Starmer has been an utter twat staying silent while Trump lied through his teeth about EU trade and Ukraine support. Then saying “our trade is different, we have a trade deficit with you”. Amoral. Might as well go the whole Swiss hog and offer to bank his stolen gold and paintings when the war starts.
Starmer is fucking rebarbative. Geopolitical arschlosssen
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There can be no question where Starmer sees the future and it is close to the US with a trade deal avoiding tariffsTimS said:Starmer now sells out Canada. He could have said something simple like “I know Donald is just joking about this. Look, Canada is one of Britain’s and America’s closest allies, a member of 5 eyes, and I think we all agree that”.
Of course Trump has UK connections, but also he endorses Brexit, and absolutely has the EU in his cross hairs so it could be argued that Starmer has taken advantage and absolutely with Mandelson influence
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I am genuinely interested to see where a tech war between the cartels - who are already fielding semi-submersible boats - and privateers would end up.Nigelb said:
MAGA are planning the use of pirates for that...williamglenn said:Starmer promises that we are ready to come to the aid of the US wherever required.
He'll probably have us offering troops to take on the Mexican cartels.
https://x.com/Mediaite/status/18950966805312840620
