Ô Canada! Terre de nos aïeux, Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux! – politicalbetting.com
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I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/2 -
There’s F1 in Bahrain and Azaerbaijan.Foxy said:
C'mon man. We played World Cups in Russia, Qatar, and will do in Saudi if we qualify. Olympics in China and Russia too.turbotubbs said:
Yes, and I would rather Afghanistan were banned. We have double standards everywhere in sport right now. I just think it’s unfair on the players.Luckyguy1983 said:
Do you agree with boycotting apartheid South Africa?turbotubbs said:
I understand where you are coming from, but ultimately you were attacking professional sportsmen representing their country. If the tournament allows Afghanistan in, the government doesn’t say ‘don’t go’, the ECB don’t say ‘don’t go’, then I don’t see why they should be the ones to take the stand.Richard_Tyndall said:
Because we are validating their position in international sport by playing against them. We should not be seeking to normalise their regime.turbotubbs said:
Can you explain why? Its Afghanistan who shouldn't be there. Is what they are doing to women not worse than apartheid?Richard_Tyndall said:
Good. Just desserts.OldKingCole said:Looks like the Afghanistan cricket team are going to beat England's. That means England are out of the Champions Trophy.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
Ireland have just finished a cricket tour of Zimbabwe.
You’re right.0 -
The rare earth revenues are allocated to a fund owned by the US and Ukraine.MoonRabbit said:
As part of original Greenland deal of Danish ownership, UK get first dibs if Denmark put Greenland up for sale? So maybe it’s the new “Chagos” example of UK being USA’s colonial bitch? If UK buys Greenland, ethnically cleanses it of Greenlanders, and US puts a military base on it, it’s identical to controversial 1960’s Chagos deal, our NATO allies won’t support us on?Nigelb said:
We’re planning to swap it for Greenland …Luckyguy1983 said:
I thought you'd seen the light on the Chagos Deal - I suppose Starmer cheerleading is a bigger priority for you than facts.MoonRabbit said:Of course Chagos Deal will come out the defence budget, it’s a no brainer, is it even a question to ask and non answer give? All the British Tax Payer gets from Chagos deal is security and defence of the realm, not budget holiday destination, so what other budget could it possibly come out of?
Is it possible Ukraine precious earth deal with US started as Ukraine offer to US? With the costs involved to get meaningful extraction and processing, destroying profit margins to meagre returns all round, Ukraine have mugged Trumps White House with security commitments with “nothing
much” in return for US?
They can only be spent in Ukraine…
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Hopefully a reporter will ask Trump his thoughts on the deal in the presser. Will be fun to see his reply.williamglenn said:
https://x.com/itvpeston/status/1894803940069245413Foxy said:
Diego Garcia is valueless except as a secure US airbase in the centre of the Indian Ocean. Of course America gets a large say in it.Gardenwalker said:
So UK has completely outsourced its foreign policy to Trump now?rottenborough said:Chagos deal off if Trumpski doesn't like it - Lammy.
Edit: Could get complicate as when he asks Putin what to do, Putin may need instructions from Bejing.
“If President Trump doesn’t like the deal, the deal will not go forward”
Foreign Secretary @DavidLammy suggests that Trump has a veto on the Chagos Island deal2 -
Sure, but we currently serve as the name on the paperwork, and I guess it depends who they want to serve as the face.rcs1000 said:
Ultimately, it's their island not ours.williamglenn said:
https://x.com/itvpeston/status/1894803940069245413Foxy said:
Diego Garcia is valueless except as a secure US airbase in the centre of the Indian Ocean. Of course America gets a large say in it.Gardenwalker said:
So UK has completely outsourced its foreign policy to Trump now?rottenborough said:Chagos deal off if Trumpski doesn't like it - Lammy.
Edit: Could get complicate as when he asks Putin what to do, Putin may need instructions from Bejing.
“If President Trump doesn’t like the deal, the deal will not go forward”
Foreign Secretary @DavidLammy suggests that Trump has a veto on the Chagos Island deal1 -
Quebec is NOT part of the Anglosphere. Excluding Quebec increases Canada's English-speaking (Home Language) majority from 68% to 80% (compare 78% USA, 91% Blighty, 72% Australia, 83% Ireland, 95% NZ).viewcode said:
I think so. When Trudeau resigned, I looked at some of the other Canadian politicians and they all had bilingual bios in their Twitter. However what is true now is not necessarily true yesterday, so I looked at the twitter bio of some past onesRichard_Tyndall said:A question I meant to ask a few days ago and forgot.
I see Carney had a bit of an issue during a French language election debate. Is it a requirement for all politicians above a certain level to be fluent bilingual in Canada?- 2021: Con leader Erin O'Toole: Father • Husband • Proud Canadian | Père - Mari - Fier Canadien
- 2019: Con leader Andrew Scheer: Regina—Qu'Appelle MP. 2nd Conservative Party Leader and 35th HOC Speaker. Principled Conservative. Defender of economic freedom and human rights.
- 2015: Con leader Stephen Harper: Official Twitter account for Canada's 22nd Prime Minister. | Compte Twitter officiel du 22e Premier ministre du Canada
- 2015: New Democratic leader Thomas Mulcair: Professeur d’université, avocat et commentateur politique University Professor, attorney and political Commentator.
- 2011: New Democratic leader Jack Layton: (deceased)
- 2011: Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff: Writer,historian,professor and former politician (he lost)
The key text[1] is "Since rise of Quebec nationalism (following the Quiet Revolution [circa 1960–1966], and especially the introduction of official bilingualism in the Official Languages Act in 1969 and its entrenchment in the Constitution of 1982, Canadian prime ministers (and party leaders as potential prime ministers) have been expected to be functionally bilingual by convention. An important factor in this trend has been the creation of the televised leaders' debates, which are held in separately in French and English."
So yes, bilingualism is important for Canadian politicians. If Carney's French is below a certain level it'll be a problem.
Notes
[1] https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Canada_by_languages_spoken
[2] https://www.quora.com/Was-there-ever-a-non-bilingual-Canadian-PM-in-recent-history
[3] Note: Stephen Harper/Con was PM from 2006 to 2015, Justin Trudeau/Lib was PM from 2015 to 20250 - 2021: Con leader Erin O'Toole: Father • Husband • Proud Canadian | Père - Mari - Fier Canadien
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Maybe, but many a dictatorship or absolute monarchy will deny being so (indeed, most at least pretend to be democratic and that democracy is a good thing, though a few are becoming more honest about this), and given how many there are, and how many are at best 'partially free' on various international freedom indices, non-dictatorships will swiftly become outnumbered.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dictatorships and absolute monarchies should be banned from World Cups and Olympics.Foxy said:
C'mon man. We played World Cups in Russia, Qatar, and will do in Saudi if we qualify. Olympics in China and Russia too.turbotubbs said:
Yes, and I would rather Afghanistan were banned. We have double standards everywhere in sport right now. I just think it’s unfair on the players.Luckyguy1983 said:
Do you agree with boycotting apartheid South Africa?turbotubbs said:
I understand where you are coming from, but ultimately you were attacking professional sportsmen representing their country. If the tournament allows Afghanistan in, the government doesn’t say ‘don’t go’, the ECB don’t say ‘don’t go’, then I don’t see why they should be the ones to take the stand.Richard_Tyndall said:
Because we are validating their position in international sport by playing against them. We should not be seeking to normalise their regime.turbotubbs said:
Can you explain why? Its Afghanistan who shouldn't be there. Is what they are doing to women not worse than apartheid?Richard_Tyndall said:
Good. Just desserts.OldKingCole said:Looks like the Afghanistan cricket team are going to beat England's. That means England are out of the Champions Trophy.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
They'll just hold their own events. Probably calling them the people's democratic olympic games or something.
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Midwits is such a midwit term.
See also “normies”, “civilians”, and “NPCs”.2 -
Given there are hundreds of CCGTs in the US that use Siemens turbines, and which will stop working if they don't get replacement parts, that's quite a stupid threat, unless you want electricity prices to go through the roof.StillWaters said:
I think he’s saying if the EU puts tariffs on US goods they will *ban* imports from Europekjh said:
This is hurting my brain. If the EU sets tariffs it reduces US sales to Europe, it doesn't impact EU sales to the US. It's Trump's tariffs that does that. What an I missing?Scott_xP said:Dumber than a bag of rare earth minerals...
@faisalislam
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What if the EU retaliates?
Trump: “They can’t. They can try, but they can’t… the numbers can never equal us… they can retaliate , but it cannot be a successful retaliation, because we just go cold turkey we dont buy any more and if that happens, we win”.
(Not to mention hospitals that rely on Philips kit, or automakers who use Infineon chips.)1 -
It seems like an attempt to make racists feel better about themselves, as it's just not probable your average white english person could delineate their heritage sufficiently to be sure.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/0 -
He'd say he'd get a better deal. Might even be true.Pulpstar said:
Hopefully a reporter will ask Trump his thoughts on the deal in the presser. Will be fun to see his reply.williamglenn said:
https://x.com/itvpeston/status/1894803940069245413Foxy said:
Diego Garcia is valueless except as a secure US airbase in the centre of the Indian Ocean. Of course America gets a large say in it.Gardenwalker said:
So UK has completely outsourced its foreign policy to Trump now?rottenborough said:Chagos deal off if Trumpski doesn't like it - Lammy.
Edit: Could get complicate as when he asks Putin what to do, Putin may need instructions from Bejing.
“If President Trump doesn’t like the deal, the deal will not go forward”
Foreign Secretary @DavidLammy suggests that Trump has a veto on the Chagos Island deal0 -
So why are some saying our cricketers shouldn’t have played today? Which was my point really.Foxy said:
C'mon man. We played World Cups in Russia, Qatar, and will do in Saudi if we qualify. Olympics in China and Russia too.turbotubbs said:
Yes, and I would rather Afghanistan were banned. We have double standards everywhere in sport right now. I just think it’s unfair on the players.Luckyguy1983 said:
Do you agree with boycotting apartheid South Africa?turbotubbs said:
I understand where you are coming from, but ultimately you were attacking professional sportsmen representing their country. If the tournament allows Afghanistan in, the government doesn’t say ‘don’t go’, the ECB don’t say ‘don’t go’, then I don’t see why they should be the ones to take the stand.Richard_Tyndall said:
Because we are validating their position in international sport by playing against them. We should not be seeking to normalise their regime.turbotubbs said:
Can you explain why? Its Afghanistan who shouldn't be there. Is what they are doing to women not worse than apartheid?Richard_Tyndall said:
Good. Just desserts.OldKingCole said:Looks like the Afghanistan cricket team are going to beat England's. That means England are out of the Champions Trophy.
That ship sailed a long time ago.0 -
Sheeple. Seems to have fallen out of fashion.Gardenwalker said:Midwits is such a midwit term.
See also “normies”, “civilians”, and “NPCs”.0 -
They'll take back this island one day, pick a side!Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/0 -
https://archive.ph/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/Andy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/0 -
https://x.com/acyn/status/1894806912845369778
Trump: This country has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and incompetently run0 -
How JD Vance is like David Cameron – Rory Stewart on TRiP (75 seconds):-
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The greater cornish empire is waiting its time to emergekle4 said:
They'll take back this island one day, pick a side!Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/1 -
I feel like you're baiting people with that quote. Or he is.williamglenn said:https://x.com/acyn/status/1894806912845369778
Trump: This country has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and incompetently run
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Very sadly, the Sheeple-people were all overcome by Bill Gates and his 5G ray-gun.kle4 said:
Sheeple. Seems to have fallen out of fashion.Gardenwalker said:Midwits is such a midwit term.
See also “normies”, “civilians”, and “NPCs”.0 -
I think it's that the ICC is failing to enforce its own rules that nations must field teams of both sexes (or is it genders? I am not a cricket fan).turbotubbs said:
So why are some saying our cricketers shouldn’t have played today? Which was my point really.Foxy said:
C'mon man. We played World Cups in Russia, Qatar, and will do in Saudi if we qualify. Olympics in China and Russia too.turbotubbs said:
Yes, and I would rather Afghanistan were banned. We have double standards everywhere in sport right now. I just think it’s unfair on the players.Luckyguy1983 said:
Do you agree with boycotting apartheid South Africa?turbotubbs said:
I understand where you are coming from, but ultimately you were attacking professional sportsmen representing their country. If the tournament allows Afghanistan in, the government doesn’t say ‘don’t go’, the ECB don’t say ‘don’t go’, then I don’t see why they should be the ones to take the stand.Richard_Tyndall said:
Because we are validating their position in international sport by playing against them. We should not be seeking to normalise their regime.turbotubbs said:
Can you explain why? Its Afghanistan who shouldn't be there. Is what they are doing to women not worse than apartheid?Richard_Tyndall said:
Good. Just desserts.OldKingCole said:Looks like the Afghanistan cricket team are going to beat England's. That means England are out of the Champions Trophy.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
There is an argument that sporting links can be an icebreaker in thawing regimes. Forrest Gump going to China for example. I think it depends on the circumstances. Is the tournament a way of driving co operation or of showing off its regime, like the 1936 Berlin Olympics?0 -
An excellent response, only slightly spoilt by its irrelevance to the post I made...Sunil_Prasannan said:
Quebec is NOT part of the Anglosphere. Excluding Quebec increases Canada's English-speaking (Home Language) majority from 68% to 80% (compare 78% USA, 91% Blighty, 72% Australia, 83% Ireland, 95% NZ).viewcode said:
I think so. When Trudeau resigned, I looked at some of the other Canadian politicians and they all had bilingual bios in their Twitter. However what is true now is not necessarily true yesterday, so I looked at the twitter bio of some past onesRichard_Tyndall said:A question I meant to ask a few days ago and forgot.
I see Carney had a bit of an issue during a French language election debate. Is it a requirement for all politicians above a certain level to be fluent bilingual in Canada?- 2021: Con leader Erin O'Toole: Father • Husband • Proud Canadian | Père - Mari - Fier Canadien
- 2019: Con leader Andrew Scheer: Regina—Qu'Appelle MP. 2nd Conservative Party Leader and 35th HOC Speaker. Principled Conservative. Defender of economic freedom and human rights.
- 2015: Con leader Stephen Harper: Official Twitter account for Canada's 22nd Prime Minister. | Compte Twitter officiel du 22e Premier ministre du Canada
- 2015: New Democratic leader Thomas Mulcair: Professeur d’université, avocat et commentateur politique University Professor, attorney and political Commentator.
- 2011: New Democratic leader Jack Layton: (deceased)
- 2011: Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff: Writer,historian,professor and former politician (he lost)
The key text[1] is "Since rise of Quebec nationalism (following the Quiet Revolution [circa 1960–1966], and especially the introduction of official bilingualism in the Official Languages Act in 1969 and its entrenchment in the Constitution of 1982, Canadian prime ministers (and party leaders as potential prime ministers) have been expected to be functionally bilingual by convention. An important factor in this trend has been the creation of the televised leaders' debates, which are held in separately in French and English."
So yes, bilingualism is important for Canadian politicians. If Carney's French is below a certain level it'll be a problem.
Notes
[1] https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Canada_by_languages_spoken
[2] https://www.quora.com/Was-there-ever-a-non-bilingual-Canadian-PM-in-recent-history
[3] Note: Stephen Harper/Con was PM from 2006 to 2015, Justin Trudeau/Lib was PM from 2015 to 20252 - 2021: Con leader Erin O'Toole: Father • Husband • Proud Canadian | Père - Mari - Fier Canadien
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Yes, I’ve not seen “WAKE UP, SHEEPLE”, in a while.ohnotnow said:
Very sadly, the Sheeple-people were all overcome by Bill Gates and his 5G ray-gun.kle4 said:
Sheeple. Seems to have fallen out of fashion.Gardenwalker said:Midwits is such a midwit term.
See also “normies”, “civilians”, and “NPCs”.0 -
Since when has stupidity been a limit condition?rcs1000 said:
Given there are hundreds of CCGTs in the US that use Siemens turbines, and which will stop working if they don't get replacement parts, that's quite a stupid threat, unless you want electricity prices to go through the roof.StillWaters said:
I think he’s saying if the EU puts tariffs on US goods they will *ban* imports from Europekjh said:
This is hurting my brain. If the EU sets tariffs it reduces US sales to Europe, it doesn't impact EU sales to the US. It's Trump's tariffs that does that. What an I missing?Scott_xP said:Dumber than a bag of rare earth minerals...
@faisalislam
NEW:
What if the EU retaliates?
Trump: “They can’t. They can try, but they can’t… the numbers can never equal us… they can retaliate , but it cannot be a successful retaliation, because we just go cold turkey we dont buy any more and if that happens, we win”.
(Not to mention hospitals that rely on Philips
kit, or automakers who use Infineon chips.)
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How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
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Really though, when you look beyond the short term. Aren't we all Beaker People under the skin?Carnyx said:
Unfair to those of us who are partly Neanderthal, too.kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
I own a beaker. I watched many episodes of The Muppets featuring 'Beaker'. I'm not sure I can prove myself more before Suella changes tack once again.
And by 'changes tack' I mean "wildly swings from one view to another".
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He really does imply that Cameron was a vacuous prat.DecrepiterJohnL said:How JD Vance is like David Cameron – Rory Stewart on TRiP (75 seconds):-
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To be frank, I increasingly feel I don't have a team.Casino_Royale said:
Britain is your team, not the EU.Razedabode said:
I hope the EU responds or at least stands up to himScott_xP said:Dumber than a bag of rare earth minerals...
@faisalislam
NEW:
What if the EU retaliates?
Trump: “They can’t. They can try, but they can’t… the numbers can never equal us… they can retaliate , but it cannot be a successful retaliation, because we just go cold turkey we dont buy any more and if that happens, we win”.
Take the aid/defence decision as one example. I can see it is good politics and has gone down well with you eminently sensible chaps on here. We probably need lots more decisions in this vein to blunt the appeal of Reform and the deranged fools the other side of the Atlantic.
And, if push came to shove, I'd fight for UK against an enemy.
Yet I would like to live in a society that was prepared to tighten our own belts at a time when money is needed, not remove it from the sorts of programmes that save and improve lives so remarkably cheaply (even if you factor in waste within the development field).
Most specifically, I think many of the more wealthy citizens of UK have utterly lost our way, threatening to up sticks and move to somewhere that will better indulge our selfish desire to keep more of our own wealth, rather than recognising the almost unquantifiable value we all get from living in probably the most prosperous, safe and free society that has existed in human history, which our taxes help sustain.6 -
Might be true, but the 'Trump's hometown' jibe is pretty blatant desperation.
Mark Carney said he had nothing to do with Brookfield moving their HQ out of Canada to Trump's hometown of New York City.
Documents show he chaired the board meeting that "unanimously determined" the move, taking jobs away from Canadians. His name is on the letter urging shareholders to approve the move.
Why did Mark Carney lie about his decision to sell out Canadian jobs?
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There is no England, only occupied Wales.Pagan2 said:
The greater cornish empire is waiting its time to emergekle4 said:
They'll take back this island one day, pick a side!Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/4 -
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
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who wouldn't.another_richard said:
He really does imply that Cameron was a vacuous prat.DecrepiterJohnL said:How JD Vance is like David Cameron – Rory Stewart on TRiP (75 seconds):-
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Even Trump can occasionally get things right, like a stopped clock giving the correct time.williamglenn said:https://x.com/acyn/status/1894806912845369778
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I think he thought it was a realistic prediction about Gaza.TimS said:
I’m sure Trump thought it was funny, which tells you a lot about the man’s sick mindset.Sean_F said:
Watching it, I wondered, was it a parody or not?TimS said:Reflecting on that despicable Gaza video Trump posted, as I’d been wandering what it reminded me of. And I realised it is the aesthetic straight out of the coffee table book Dictators’ Homes by Peter York, mixed with a dose of Turkmenbashi.
The book is a hideous classic. Full page spreads of the distinctly non-IKEA interiors of the presidential palaces of the likes of Mobutu, Saddam, Ceausescu and Noriega.
There seems to be something about being a narcissistic autocrat that correlates with exceptionally bad taste and a love of lurid kitsch.
Dictator aesthetic seems very much a poor man’s idea of how a rich man lives.
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IIRC Trident has some interesting modes - depressed trajectory shot is one of them. *minimum* range is an interesting question.Luckyguy1983 said:
We would never use Trident that way.PoodleInASlipstream said:
Beyond the deterrent role, Trident is actually a fairly good guarantee nobody will ever try an amphibious invasion of the UK or Ireland from the west. Nice invasion fleet you have there Mr Trump, shame if we were to drop an ICBM on it...HYUFD said:It's basically another complete waste of defence spend, like Trident but without the veneer of usefulness.
Since we’ve reduced the number of warheads on most of them, you can actually reach near orbit - so you can do hilarious stuff like fire in the opposite direction, go most of the way round, and hit a target 200 miles away. From behind, as it were.
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So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?0
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They want constant coddling and lavishing praise, on top of being wealthy.maxh said:...
To be frank, I increasingly feel I don't have a team.Casino_Royale said:
Britain is your team, not the EU.Razedabode said:
I hope the EU responds or at least stands up to himScott_xP said:Dumber than a bag of rare earth minerals...
@faisalislam
NEW:
What if the EU retaliates?
Trump: “They can’t. They can try, but they can’t… the numbers can never equal us… they can retaliate , but it cannot be a successful retaliation, because we just go cold turkey we dont buy any more and if that happens, we win”.
Take the aid/defence decision as one example. I can see it is good politics and has gone down well with you eminently sensible chaps on here. We probably need lots more decisions in this vein to blunt the appeal of Reform and the deranged fools the other side of the Atlantic.
And, if push came to shove, I'd fight for UK against an enemy.
Yet I would like to live in a society that was prepared to tighten our own belts at a time when money is needed, not remove it from the sorts of programmes that save and improve lives so remarkably cheaply (even if you factor in waste within the development field).
Most specifically, I think many of the more wealthy citizens of UK have utterly lost our way, threatening to up sticks and move to somewhere that will better indulge our selfish desire to keep more of our own wealth, rather than recognising the almost unquantifiable value we all get from living in probably the most prosperous, safe and free society that has existed in human history, which our taxes help sustain.
I'm not saying every rich person (ie those wealthier than me) should be taxed of all their money or that people should automatically be super patriotic, but in general it feels like as a society rich and poor alike don't have any shared sentimentality about nations anymore*, but it hasn't been replaced with anything more universal.
* or go to opposite extremes of national self flagellation or rosy eyed nostalgic boomerism.0 -
If Ukraine gets some security guarantees out of it to protect those joint assets then Zelensky has pulled off the deal of the century.StillWaters said:
The rare earth revenues are allocated to a fund owned by the US and Ukraine.MoonRabbit said:
As part of original Greenland deal of Danish ownership, UK get first dibs if Denmark put Greenland up for sale? So maybe it’s the new “Chagos” example of UK being USA’s colonial bitch? If UK buys Greenland, ethnically cleanses it of Greenlanders, and US puts a military base on it, it’s identical to controversial 1960’s Chagos deal, our NATO allies won’t support us on?Nigelb said:
We’re planning to swap it for Greenland …Luckyguy1983 said:
I thought you'd seen the light on the Chagos Deal - I suppose Starmer cheerleading is a bigger priority for you than facts.MoonRabbit said:Of course Chagos Deal will come out the defence budget, it’s a no brainer, is it even a question to ask and non answer give? All the British Tax Payer gets from Chagos deal is security and defence of the realm, not budget holiday destination, so what other budget could it possibly come out of?
Is it possible Ukraine precious earth deal with US started as Ukraine offer to US? With the costs involved to get meaningful extraction and processing, destroying profit margins to meagre returns all round, Ukraine have mugged Trumps White House with security commitments with “nothing
much” in return for US?
They can only be spent in Ukraine…
I saw on C4 news that "rare earths" are 90% refined in China, even those mined in the USA, so perhaps a big refinery in Ukraine would be a suitable investment.0 -
Or maybe the number of Palestinian hostages is huge.another_richard said:So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?
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The Grand Trump Hotel and Statue will be built on the edge of the current frontlines, lined with explosives if the Russians advance beyond those lines. That will guarantee no break of an enforced stalemate until Trump moves on.Foxy said:
If Ukraine gets some security guarantees out of it to protect those joint assets then Zelensky has pulled off the deal of the century.StillWaters said:
The rare earth revenues are allocated to a fund owned by the US and Ukraine.MoonRabbit said:
As part of original Greenland deal of Danish ownership, UK get first dibs if Denmark put Greenland up for sale? So maybe it’s the new “Chagos” example of UK being USA’s colonial bitch? If UK buys Greenland, ethnically cleanses it of Greenlanders, and US puts a military base on it, it’s identical to controversial 1960’s Chagos deal, our NATO allies won’t support us on?Nigelb said:
We’re planning to swap it for Greenland …Luckyguy1983 said:
I thought you'd seen the light on the Chagos Deal - I suppose Starmer cheerleading is a bigger priority for you than facts.MoonRabbit said:Of course Chagos Deal will come out the defence budget, it’s a no brainer, is it even a question to ask and non answer give? All the British Tax Payer gets from Chagos deal is security and defence of the realm, not budget holiday destination, so what other budget could it possibly come out of?
Is it possible Ukraine precious earth deal with US started as Ukraine offer to US? With the costs involved to get meaningful extraction and processing, destroying profit margins to meagre returns all round, Ukraine have mugged Trumps White House with security commitments with “nothing
much” in return for US?
They can only be spent in Ukraine…
I saw on C4 news that "rare earths" are 90% refined in China, even those mined in the USA, so perhaps a big refinery in Ukraine would be a suitable investment.0 -
Couple of slices of Venison salami and you've got yourself a winning pizza right there.Casino_Royale said:
Baked salmon with pineapple. Served with coconut rice and pak choi.carnforth said:
A ham? Worse than putting it on Pizza.Casino_Royale said:
Wonderful. Mine isn't pizza..carnforth said:
I'm having one of these:Casino_Royale said:I've just put something with pineapple on it in the oven...
https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/crosta-mollica-stromboli-sourdough-pizza/874701-805705-805706
Very decent, but one of those tiresome products which is overpriced when not on offer.2 -
Which is why being Sunak's Foreign Secretary suited him so well. Lots of nice travel, nice meals, say something good-sounding, do very little of note and any time he did something dangerous Sunak could stop him.another_richard said:
He really does imply that Cameron was a vacuous prat.DecrepiterJohnL said:How JD Vance is like David Cameron – Rory Stewart on TRiP (75 seconds):-
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Back in the 90s, at UCL, the progressive lot were very hot for the idea of no assimilation. They got very upset when I referred to some people as British.kle4 said:
It seems like an attempt to make racists feel better about themselves, as it's just not probable your average white english person could delineate their heritage sufficiently to be sure.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
British because they were born here and had the passport etc*.
Apparently this was denying them their identity or something.
Funny how this stuff goes in circles.
*fans of Cap’n Hook0 -
I don't think we ever saw it on PB as much as Twitter. Similarly "NPC"s, which mercifully we eschew. PB is much smarter than Twitter.Sean_F said:
Yes, I’ve not seen “WAKE UP, SHEEPLE”, in a while.ohnotnow said:
Very sadly, the Sheeple-people were all overcome by Bill Gates and his 5G ray-gun.kle4 said:
Sheeple. Seems to have fallen out of fashion.Gardenwalker said:Midwits is such a midwit term.
See also “normies”, “civilians”, and “NPCs”.1 -
The ratios in these exchanges have always been like that. The remain of one Israeli pilot for sagans of released detainees etc. it’s been that way for as long as I can remember.another_richard said:So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?
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Magnification of (perceived) differences and historic grievances is the key to harmony!Malmesbury said:
Back in the 90s, at UCL, the progressive lot were very hot for the idea of no assimilation. They got very upset when I referred to some people as British.kle4 said:
It seems like an attempt to make racists feel better about themselves, as it's just not probable your average white english person could delineate their heritage sufficiently to be sure.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
British because they were born here and had the passport etc*.
Apparently this was denying them their identity or something.
Funny how this stuff goes in circles.
*fans of Cap’n Hook3 -
I don't doubt that the Israeli military arrest anyone they don't like the look of.Foxy said:
Or maybe the number of Palestinian hostages is huge.another_richard said:So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?
But its still crap deal making to have such an unbalanced exchange.0 -
On the last month or so ?williamglenn said:https://x.com/acyn/status/1894806912845369778
Trump: This country has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and incompetently run
Bit harsh on himself. But fair.0 -
I am sure on a board of fellow nerds, there will be some other aficionados of Bostrom's simulation argument (https://simulation-argument.com/).
Whilst indulging in a gentle lament that I no longer have enough free hours in my life to play Civilization, it struck me that, when I did have time to play, I would sometimes build my civilisation up to a peak of performance, such that all different avenues of winning were open to me (winning the space race, diplomatic victory etc) and then, just for the fun of it, go on a relentless military rampage, combined with burning all my diplomatic bridges at once, just to see if my civilisation could wipe out all the others before anyone else build their space ship to Alpha Centauri.
Is there not extremely compelling circumstantial evidence that we are currently within a simulation in which our future-human player has decided to see whether USA can replicate my rather destructive whims?
I'm not sure whether this adds to my evening's melancholy or dissipates it. But I have a glass of Lagavulin next to me so all is not quite lost yet.1 -
"A free pager for every released prisoner!".....another_richard said:
I don't doubt that the Israeli military arrest anyone they don't like the look of.Foxy said:
Or maybe the number of Palestinian hostages is huge.another_richard said:So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?
But its still crap deal making to have such an unbalanced exchange.1 -
Expression of power.Malmesbury said:
The ratios in these exchanges have always been like that. The remain of one Israeli pilot for sagans of released detainees etc. it’s been that way for as long as I can remember.another_richard said:So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?
Casualty rates tend to follow a similar ratio, obviously.0 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_numberkle4 said:
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/18947895586481276930 -
Graham's number is an immense number that arose as an upper bound on the answer of a problem in the mathematical field of Ramsey theory. It is much larger than many other large numbers such as Skewes's number and Moser's number, both of which are in turn much larger than a googolplex. As with these, it is so large that the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number, assuming that each digit occupies one Planck volume, possibly the smallest measurable spaceviewcode said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_numberkle4 said:
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
...so, it big?1 -
It has but all it does is then encourage more hostage taking.Malmesbury said:
The ratios in these exchanges have always been like that. The remain of one Israeli pilot for sagans of released detainees etc. it’s been that way for as long as I can remember.another_richard said:So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?
So ultimately self defeating unless the plan is to have the Israeli population under a continuous state of threat.
Which it might well be - 'keep them keen to make them mean' so to speak.0 -
Labour want Trump to kill the Chagos deal. So that’s that then.
The Canadian Tories are what is in store for Reform should they ally with Trump any further.0 -
Thick more so than sick.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
Its a good idea to weaken other countries which are threats and rivals.
And Russia will always be a threat and rival to the USA.0 -
Trump: I will not comment on whether China should not take Taiwan by force.
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1894813356558819580
Seems pretty unambiguous to me.
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I'm sure that Israel will be keeping tabs on the serious Hamas faces who are being released. Once all of the hostages are out, these lads might be receiving an unwelcome visit.another_richard said:
I don't doubt that the Israeli military arrest anyone they don't like the look of.Foxy said:
Or maybe the number of Palestinian hostages is huge.another_richard said:So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?
But its still crap deal making to have such an unbalanced exchange.0 -
‘Twas ever thus, they exchanged 1000 plus Palestinians for one IDF guy in 2011.another_richard said:So if 4 dead Israelis now equal 600 live Palestinians does that mean Israeli lives are now worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives or merely that BennyN is crap at negotiating ?
Entirely coincidentally Bibi & co do think Israeli lives are worth infinitely more than Palestinian lives.0 -
That's leadership by the senior figure in the west, eh?Nigelb said:Trump: I will not comment on whether China should not take Taiwan by force.
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1894813356558819580
Seems pretty unambiguous to me.0 -
Has Putin or anyone around him expressed an opinion about the Ukraine-US minerals deal?0
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tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.0 -
Trump's ego is bigger. Trump's number is Graham's number raised to the power of "bigly"....kle4 said:
Graham's number is an immense number that arose as an upper bound on the answer of a problem in the mathematical field of Ramsey theory. It is much larger than many other large numbers such as Skewes's number and Moser's number, both of which are in turn much larger than a googolplex. As with these, it is so large that the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number, assuming that each digit occupies one Planck volume, possibly the smallest measurable spaceviewcode said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_numberkle4 said:
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
...so, it big?2 -
Let's just say the guy who gave him the news fell out of an 8th storey window....geoffw said:Has Putin or anyone around him expressed an opinion about the Ukraine-US minerals deal?
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Just stock up first.rcs1000 said:
Given there are hundreds of CCGTs in the US that use Siemens turbines, and which will stop working if they don't get replacement parts, that's quite a stupid threat, unless you want electricity prices to go through the roof.StillWaters said:
I think he’s saying if the EU puts tariffs on US goods they will *ban* imports from Europekjh said:
This is hurting my brain. If the EU sets tariffs it reduces US sales to Europe, it doesn't impact EU sales to the US. It's Trump's tariffs that does that. What an I missing?Scott_xP said:Dumber than a bag of rare earth minerals...
@faisalislam
NEW:
What if the EU retaliates?
Trump: “They can’t. They can try, but they can’t… the numbers can never equal us… they can retaliate , but it cannot be a successful retaliation, because we just go cold turkey we dont buy any more and if that happens, we win”.
(Not to mention hospitals that rely on Philips kit, or automakers who use Infineon chips.)0 -
For anyone out there who loves a good RTS there's a new one on the horizon called Tempest Rising, there's a demo on Steam and it's basically a new version of C&C, had an absolute blast with it earlier today when the kids were at nursery.4
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I thought he was talking about himself.Foxy said:
Even Trump can occasionally get things right, like a stopped clock giving the correct time.williamglenn said:https://x.com/acyn/status/1894806912845369778
Trump: This country has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and incompetently run0 -
Some prankster comedian appears to have gatecrashed Trump's cabinet meeting.
If only...0 -
As a true nerd the only Bostrom I have heard of is Arthur Bostrom who played the ‘Good Moaning’ PC in Allo Allo.maxh said:I am sure on a board of fellow nerds, there will be some other aficionados of Bostrom's simulation argument (https://simulation-argument.com/).
Whilst indulging in a gentle lament that I no longer have enough free hours in my life to play Civilization, it struck me that, when I did have time to play, I would sometimes build my civilisation up to a peak of performance, such that all different avenues of winning were open to me (winning the space race, diplomatic victory etc) and then, just for the fun of it, go on a relentless military rampage, combined with burning all my diplomatic bridges at once, just to see if my civilisation could wipe out all the others before anyone else build their space ship to Alpha Centauri.
Is there not extremely compelling circumstantial evidence that we are currently within a simulation in which our future-human player has decided to see whether USA can replicate my rather destructive whims?
I'm not sure whether this adds to my evening's melancholy or dissipates it. But I have a glass of Lagavulin next to me so all is not quite lost yet.1 -
Confusing himself with the US againwilliamglenn said:https://x.com/acyn/status/1894806912845369778
Trump: This country has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and incompetently run0 -
It's Labour visibly dancing to Trump's tune.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Labour want Trump to kill the Chagos deal. So that’s that then.
The Canadian Tories are what is in store for Reform should they ally with Trump any further.
I think they are making a mistake in trying to reuse the New Labour playbook. Back then they could rely on both the tribal Labour vote and the ideological left having nowhere else to go, but that no longer holds and they risk just looking like a poor man's Reform and not appealing to anyone.1 -
Screwed would we say?kle4 said:Might be true, but the 'Trump's hometown' jibe is pretty blatant desperation.
Mark Carney said he had nothing to do with Brookfield moving their HQ out of Canada to Trump's hometown of New York City.
Documents show he chaired the board meeting that "unanimously determined" the move, taking jobs away from Canadians. His name is on the letter urging shareholders to approve the move.
Why did Mark Carney lie about his decision to sell out Canadian jobs?
https://nitter.poast.org/PierrePoilievre/status/1894774935337185743#m
Not because it's "Trump’s home town" but because it is proof positive that Carney is just a globalist who doesn't give a flying f*** about Canada, let alone the even more ludicrous idea that he gave a f*** about the UK on his well-paid visit here.1 -
I feel like there hasn't been much love for RTS games for years, though I'm probably wrong as I'm not as up to date as I used to be.MaxPB said:For anyone out there who loves a good RTS there's a new one on the horizon called Tempest Rising, there's a demo on Steam and it's basically a new version of C&C, had an absolute blast with it earlier today when the kids were at nursery.
I like that demos are more of a thing again.0 -
So thick and sickanother_richard said:
Thick more so than sick.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
Its a good idea to weaken other countries which are threats and rivals.
And Russia will always be a threat and rival to the USA.0 -
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.0 -
I don't really know why the unelected Carney would have been such a frontrunner anyway but it seemed to be the case, but if this is true it's a pretty hard blow to land, so we should find out how much substance there was to his campaign I guess.Luckyguy1983 said:
Screwed would we say?kle4 said:Might be true, but the 'Trump's hometown' jibe is pretty blatant desperation.
Mark Carney said he had nothing to do with Brookfield moving their HQ out of Canada to Trump's hometown of New York City.
Documents show he chaired the board meeting that "unanimously determined" the move, taking jobs away from Canadians. His name is on the letter urging shareholders to approve the move.
Why did Mark Carney lie about his decision to sell out Canadian jobs?
https://nitter.poast.org/PierrePoilievre/status/1894774935337185743#m
Not because it's "Trump’s home town" but because it is proof positive that Carney is just a globalist who doesn't give a flying f*** about Canada, let alone the even more ludicrous idea that he gave a f*** about the UK on his well-paid visit here.1 -
That's a big misreading of it imho. Cameron was disinterred to look after the Sunak Government when it became clear that Sunak couldn't cope day to day.viewcode said:
Which is why being Sunak's Foreign Secretary suited him so well. Lots of nice travel, nice meals, say something good-sounding, do very little of note and any time he did something dangerous Sunak could stop him.another_richard said:
He really does imply that Cameron was a vacuous prat.DecrepiterJohnL said:How JD Vance is like David Cameron – Rory Stewart on TRiP (75 seconds):-
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Methinks Labour is looking for a face-saving way out of the deal: “So sorry, Trump will throw a fit if we do this now Mauritius & we just can’t afford to piss him off right now. Lets just park it till the next US president turns up.”Pulpstar said:
Hopefully a reporter will ask Trump his thoughts on the deal in the presser. Will be fun to see his reply.williamglenn said:
https://x.com/itvpeston/status/1894803940069245413Foxy said:
Diego Garcia is valueless except as a secure US airbase in the centre of the Indian Ocean. Of course America gets a large say in it.Gardenwalker said:
So UK has completely outsourced its foreign policy to Trump now?rottenborough said:Chagos deal off if Trumpski doesn't like it - Lammy.
Edit: Could get complicate as when he asks Putin what to do, Putin may need instructions from Bejing.
“If President Trump doesn’t like the deal, the deal will not go forward”
Foreign Secretary @DavidLammy suggests that Trump has a veto on the Chagos Island deal0 -
Nor do a buttload of white english people (depending on how far we define 'generational'), not to the extent they can prove it without deeper family research. Are we sure how many will be left? A great many, to be sure, but a lot less than she probably thinks.williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.0 -
Don’t see much mention of LARPing here too.viewcode said:
I don't think we ever saw it on PB as much as Twitter. Similarly "NPC"s, which mercifully we eschew. PB is much smarter than Twitter.Sean_F said:
Yes, I’ve not seen “WAKE UP, SHEEPLE”, in a while.ohnotnow said:
Very sadly, the Sheeple-people were all overcome by Bill Gates and his 5G ray-gun.kle4 said:
Sheeple. Seems to have fallen out of fashion.Gardenwalker said:Midwits is such a midwit term.
See also “normies”, “civilians”, and “NPCs”.2 -
So she fails the Norman Tebbit Cricket Test.williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.
Bloody Tories. Can't even make up their minds on how to be xenophobic.5 -
It bigkle4 said:
Graham's number is an immense number that arose as an upper bound on the answer of a problem in the mathematical field of Ramsey theory. It is much larger than many other large numbers such as Skewes's number and Moser's number, both of which are in turn much larger than a googolplex. As with these, it is so large that the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number, assuming that each digit occupies one Planck volume, possibly the smallest measurable spaceviewcode said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_numberkle4 said:
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
...so, it big?0 -
To be honest, because of my blended ancestry I tend to identify as either British or European on forms rather than English.kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.
I do sometimes mix it up by identifying as "white other", or simply "other" when the mood takes me. Certain other demographics can be quite random too.0 -
I could buy that - try to get some 'reputational' benefit whilst actually doing nothing - though I don't think it would fool anyone, and so would make the supposed goal of reputational benefits in the first place pretty meaningless. And if the security reasoning were the true driver, then presumably they'd be genuinely distraught if Trump effectively vetoed it - there were too many reports that they were desperate to get it over the line before he came in for me to believe they don't really want to.Phil said:
Methinks Labour is looking for a face-saving way out of the deal: “So sorry, Trump will throw a fit if we do this now Mauritius & we just can’t afford to piss him off right now. Lets just park it till the next US president turns up.”Pulpstar said:
Hopefully a reporter will ask Trump his thoughts on the deal in the presser. Will be fun to see his reply.williamglenn said:
https://x.com/itvpeston/status/1894803940069245413Foxy said:
Diego Garcia is valueless except as a secure US airbase in the centre of the Indian Ocean. Of course America gets a large say in it.Gardenwalker said:
So UK has completely outsourced its foreign policy to Trump now?rottenborough said:Chagos deal off if Trumpski doesn't like it - Lammy.
Edit: Could get complicate as when he asks Putin what to do, Putin may need instructions from Bejing.
“If President Trump doesn’t like the deal, the deal will not go forward”
Foreign Secretary @DavidLammy suggests that Trump has a veto on the Chagos Island deal0 -
Nick Bostrom makes a reasonably convincing argument that it is statistically far more likely that our world is a computer simulation being run by future humans with rather more computing power than us, rather than the real thing.Taz said:
As a true nerd the only Bostrom I have heard of is Arthur Bostrom who played the ‘Good Moaning’ PC in Allo Allo.maxh said:I am sure on a board of fellow nerds, there will be some other aficionados of Bostrom's simulation argument (https://simulation-argument.com/).
Whilst indulging in a gentle lament that I no longer have enough free hours in my life to play Civilization, it struck me that, when I did have time to play, I would sometimes build my civilisation up to a peak of performance, such that all different avenues of winning were open to me (winning the space race, diplomatic victory etc) and then, just for the fun of it, go on a relentless military rampage, combined with burning all my diplomatic bridges at once, just to see if my civilisation could wipe out all the others before anyone else build their space ship to Alpha Centauri.
Is there not extremely compelling circumstantial evidence that we are currently within a simulation in which our future-human player has decided to see whether USA can replicate my rather destructive whims?
I'm not sure whether this adds to my evening's melancholy or dissipates it. But I have a glass of Lagavulin next to me so all is not quite lost yet.
It's quite comforting at times such as this.0 -
Back on Carney, I never seem to stumble onto mention of whoever the other Liberal candidates are when scrolling the internet, so either twitter is very much not real life in this case, or he's so far in front everyone else is an also-ran and it doesn't matter what might emerge against him - other than the Tories there hoping it will hamstring him in the upcoming election and restore their advantage which Trump has wrecked.0
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You don't have to have a past, but you do have to have a future. Nationality is like marriage: it's a commitment to stand and fight for your country. This is why I get so pissed off when UK politicians go to the States (Nick Clegg, David Miliband, Liz Truss).williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.0 -
Quite.kle4 said:
Nor do a buttload of white english people (depending on how far we define 'generational'), not to the extent they can prove it without deeper family research. Are we sure how many will be left? A great many, to be sure, but a lot less than she probably thinks.williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.
In fact, I suspect very few have "ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."
Unless the story is "I was born in Watford".0 -
Yes and no. Both my parents families are Wiltshire a very long way back, and I live here still. I do feel some link to the place and it's past. Nebulous but real.rcs1000 said:
Quite.kle4 said:
Nor do a buttload of white english people (depending on how far we define 'generational'), not to the extent they can prove it without deeper family research. Are we sure how many will be left? A great many, to be sure, but a lot less than she probably thinks.williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.
In fact, I suspect very few have "ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."
Unless the story is "I was born in Watford".1 -
Friend of mine’s ancestor caught the reins of William the bastard’s horse one day and stopped it bolting. His descendants are still farming the land he was given as a rewardrcs1000 said:
Quite.kle4 said:
Nor do a buttload of white english people (depending on how far we define 'generational'), not to the extent they can prove it without deeper family research. Are we sure how many will be left? A great many, to be sure, but a lot less than she probably thinks.williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.
In fact, I suspect very few have "ancestral
stories tied to the towns or villages of this
land."
Unless the story is "I was born in Watford".
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I am not a maths person, but something similar and simple can be expressed as self evident, assuming the 'observable universe' is finite: There is no highest number, number being infinitely extended; it therefore follows that the digital, space occupying however small, representation of a sufficiently large number is bound to take up more space than a finite universe, however large. This renders me no wiser.kle4 said:
Graham's number is an immense number that arose as an upper bound on the answer of a problem in the mathematical field of Ramsey theory. It is much larger than many other large numbers such as Skewes's number and Moser's number, both of which are in turn much larger than a googolplex. As with these, it is so large that the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number, assuming that each digit occupies one Planck volume, possibly the smallest measurable spaceviewcode said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_numberkle4 said:
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
...so, it big?1 -
Trump wants it renamed 'Trump Number'.viewcode said:
It bigkle4 said:
Graham's number is an immense number that arose as an upper bound on the answer of a problem in the mathematical field of Ramsey theory. It is much larger than many other large numbers such as Skewes's number and Moser's number, both of which are in turn much larger than a googolplex. As with these, it is so large that the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number, assuming that each digit occupies one Planck volume, possibly the smallest measurable spaceviewcode said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_numberkle4 said:
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
...so, it big?2 -
I can believe the vast majority of people would have deep generational ties. What I doubt it most are aware of the details that could prove that, so it would just be a general feeling, and third generation person would appear as deeply connected as your 25th generation one.StillWaters said:
Friend of mine’s ancestor caught the reins of William the bastard’s horse one day and stopped it bolting. His descendants are still farming the land he was given as a rewardrcs1000 said:
Quite.kle4 said:
Nor do a buttload of white english people (depending on how far we define 'generational'), not to the extent they can prove it without deeper family research. Are we sure how many will be left? A great many, to be sure, but a lot less than she probably thinks.williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.
In fact, I suspect very few have "ancestral
stories tied to the towns or villages of this
land."
Unless the story is "I was born in Watford".0 -
Raises the possibility of being hit by the missile you fired yourself, somewhat boomerang style.Malmesbury said:
IIRC Trident has some interesting modes - depressed trajectory shot is one of them. *minimum* range is an interesting question.Luckyguy1983 said:
We would never use Trident that way.PoodleInASlipstream said:
Beyond the deterrent role, Trident is actually a fairly good guarantee nobody will ever try an amphibious invasion of the UK or Ireland from the west. Nice invasion fleet you have there Mr Trump, shame if we were to drop an ICBM on it...HYUFD said:It's basically another complete waste of defence spend, like Trident but without the veneer of usefulness.
Since we’ve reduced the number of warheads on most of them, you can actually reach near orbit - so you can do hilarious stuff like fire in the opposite direction, go most of the way round, and hit a target 200 miles away. From behind, as it were.0 -
Isn't that number one?rottenborough said:
Trump wants it renamed 'Trump Number'.viewcode said:
It bigkle4 said:
Graham's number is an immense number that arose as an upper bound on the answer of a problem in the mathematical field of Ramsey theory. It is much larger than many other large numbers such as Skewes's number and Moser's number, both of which are in turn much larger than a googolplex. As with these, it is so large that the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number, assuming that each digit occupies one Planck volume, possibly the smallest measurable spaceviewcode said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_numberkle4 said:
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
...so, it big?
2 -
I'm personally worried for Judd Trump, the parish of Trumpington, the trumpet, and the firemen of Trumpton.rottenborough said:
Trump wants it renamed 'Trump Number'.viewcode said:
It bigkle4 said:
Graham's number is an immense number that arose as an upper bound on the answer of a problem in the mathematical field of Ramsey theory. It is much larger than many other large numbers such as Skewes's number and Moser's number, both of which are in turn much larger than a googolplex. As with these, it is so large that the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number, assuming that each digit occupies one Planck volume, possibly the smallest measurable spaceviewcode said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_numberkle4 said:
No scale has been invented that can properly measure that.malcolmg said:
How sick are these moronsNigelb said:Donald Trump Jr.:
I honestly can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would be picking Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option, the US should have been sending weapons to Russia.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1894789558648127693
...so, it big?1 -
On both sides of my family there has been a lot of moving about, often quite large distances, even continents, and in childhood I moved a lot. I went to seven different schools, 3 in the USA and 4 in England, then Univrrsity in London, so never developed that deep of attachment until I settled here in Leics, where I have been a third of a century. When people ask where I am from, I say Leicester. Leicester is the sort of place that is open to incomers.turbotubbs said:
Yes and no. Both my parents families are Wiltshire a very long way back, and I live here still. I do feel some link to the place and it's past. Nebulous but real.rcs1000 said:
Quite.kle4 said:
Nor do a buttload of white english people (depending on how far we define 'generational'), not to the extent they can prove it without deeper family research. Are we sure how many will be left? A great many, to be sure, but a lot less than she probably thinks.williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.
In fact, I suspect very few have "ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."
Unless the story is "I was born in Watford".
One of my oldest friends was born and lived all his life in a small Yorkshire town, apart from his time at University in London, he went straight back there after he qualified and still lives there. I am sometimes a bit jealous of those with such attachment to place. I could have settled anywhere there was an interesting job. Every city has its good and bad bits.1 -
All 4 of my grandparents were immigrants. I have no English blood whatsoever nor any generational links to the land but I feel English because I an a product of English culture. That is distinct from Scottish and Welsh culture in my experience.6
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Yes 'I don't feel English' is fine. But 'For Englishness to mean something it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity' is a load of bollocks. At the end of the day everyone has mixed ancestry.kle4 said:
Nor do a buttload of white english people (depending on how far we define 'generational'), not to the extent they can prove it without deeper family research. Are we sure how many will be left? A great many, to be sure, but a lot less than she probably thinks.williamglenn said:
She says, "For Englishness to mean something substantial, it must be rooted in ancestry, heritage, and, yes, ethnicity – not just residence or fluency. [...] I don’t feel English because I have no generational ties to English soil, no ancestral stories tied to the towns or villages of this land."kamski said:
tbf in my experience it's not uncommon for people born in England to parents with Asian or African roots to consider themselves British and not English. I haven't read the article, but if she is also saying that others with a similar background can't be English she is wrong, but she is entitled to feel that way about herself.Foxy said:
I have English, Welsh, Scots and Scots-Irish ancestors, albeit some from the British diaspora in the Antipodes. Can I be English by her definition? Or is my blood too diluted by those perfidious Celts?kle4 said:
It's just crazy, I have no idea how recently my ancestors came to this island as I know little about our heritage (there is a rumour one great grandparent had the last name schwartz changed to Black, but I have no confirmation), so how am I meant to know if my ancestry is suitably Norman/Saxon/Romano British/Viking?HYUFD said:
Suella calls herself British Asian in that article, apparently only descendants of Normans and Saxons and at a push Romano British and Vikings who settled here can be English is the basis of her argumentAndy_JS said:"Suella Braverman
I will never be truly English: here is why"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/i-will-never-be-truly-english-here-is-why-suella-braverman/
But if HYUFD's summary is correct and she talks about 'descendants of Romano British' then she is off her trolley.
And the things that are most identifiably English are either not dependent in those things at all - eg having an English accent, or being a fan of the England football team. Or in the case of 'heritage' aren't really 'English' historically - Stonehenge and the royal family.
Here's a poll from 2021
https://www.britishfuture.org/english-identity-open-football-unites/
"Three quarters (77%) of white people in England agree that ‘Being English is open to people of different ethnic backgrounds who identify as English.’ Just 14% feel that ‘Only people who are white count as truly English.’ Two-thirds (68%) of ethnic minority citizens agree that being English is open to people of all backgrounds, while 19% feel that English identity is the preserve of white people."2