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Will the Ayrshire hotelier follow Musk’s lead in renouncing Farage? – politicalbetting.com
Will the Ayrshire hotelier follow Musk’s lead in renouncing Farage? – politicalbetting.com
Well, this is a surprise! Elon is a remarkable individual but on this I am afraid I disagree. My view remains that Tommy Robinson is not right for Reform and I never sell out my principles. https://t.co/V7iccN6usS
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Elon Musk is a loose cannon and the rhetoric he’s been spouting over recent days has become more and more extreme.
He clearly has an irrational hatred of Keir Starmer and the elected government of this country.
Whilst he’s free to think and say what he likes, I really do think the ability to hold him to account on Twitter is essentially non-existent with how the site operates. We’ve seen before when the temperature gets too high, that people end up doing dangerous things and I just worry that this is where we are headed, again.
Some of the stuff Musk has said is totally outrageous and I really hope that anyone from any political persuasion would be able to call it out for what it is. I pray this site does not fall victim to it.
I’m off to watch Below Deck.
Not because of the politics but because he always does it when he
feels the need for large amounts of cash on the lecture circuitgets bored of it.What else can a court do in that circumstance...
If Farage steps down he can always step back up again, Kemi can't.
You and he need to do some research.
Also from which party was the AG from in 2018?
A judge retrying ex-English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson for contempt of court has referred the case to the government's top legal adviser.
Mr Robinson faced an allegation that he had committed contempt by filming people before a criminal trial.
But Judge Nicholas Hilliard QC ruled the case needed to be referred up to the attorney general to decide.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45951152
Rather like the idiots who do their protests repeatedly, until the courts throw the book at them.
If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime 27 times.
Walk away with a huge amount and not give a toss who Musk installs.
Those passages do Starmer credit but it is remarkable how the landscape has changed.
Firstly, in Scotland, we have the rape shield provisions found in the Criminal Procedure (S) Act 1995. These make it impermissible to ask any complainer about any prior sexual or criminal conduct unless an application has been made to the court explaining in advance why that evidence might be relevant (an obvious example being a previous admitted false allegation). Secondly, in Scotland, we have gone a long way (some might say too far) in excluding what we call collateral material, such as that the complainer had consented on other occasions. Taken together, the scope of cross examination has been very severely restricted and it tends to be relatively brief.
Secondly, we have simply stopped being apologetic about our victims. Many, possibly even most, have found themselves in situations where they have been sexually abused because they have drug problems, drink problems or psychological issues relating to their mental health. We have gone on the front foot about this. They have been picked because they have these vulnerabilities. It is not a reason to doubt the evidence of the victim, it is a reason to look carefully at the conduct of the accused.
Thirdly, and possibly most controversially in Scotland, the old protections of corroboration have been substantially diminished. What is meant by a de recenti statement (that is immediately after the event) has been extended to months if there are good reasons why it had not been made earlier. Similarly, the rule on distress viewed by an independent witness has been extended in time.
The result of these changes is that it is a very rare allegation of rape that does not get to a jury. Whether they are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt is a different matter but juries too, in my experience, are far more realistic than they used to be about what has really been going on. The #MeToo movement has had a definite and positive effect here. Jurors are much more willing to see abuses of power and addictions as vitiating any question of consent.
Personally, I have some reservations about some of the excluded evidence. I have some worries that a life changing conviction can and does come to pass on the back of what is, in reality, a single source of evidence. I have concerns about the sheer number of cases that are being prosecuted and the delays that causes. But what an improvement.
Your desire to see him censored is dangerous and redundant. Its absolutely possible to hold him to account by exposing and ridiculing him, there's no need for censorship.
No Ed Davey???
We demand a recount
Meanwhile, she has backed her Justice spokesman.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/05/badenoch-defends-jenricks-remarks-about-people-from-alien-cultures
Someone needs to ask her if she supports what he said, or just his right to say it.
Perhaps we can get the full on fights that used to occur in the South Korean Parliament?
Think of it as laying down work for the next generation of up and coming lawyers. Without some wrongly imprisoned people to free, how will the young idealists prove themselves?
But the response i get are things like: "He's a genius!!! Look at all the rockets and cars he's designed!!! You're a nobody!!!"
It's hard to expose him, as I have zero influence over the mainstream media, and he controls one of the main alternative routes - Twix. And there are masses of weird nerds and bots jumping in to defend their God. Not just on Twix - on here as well.
But what many people miss is that it is perfectly possible to be both highly intelligent and a fool. In fact, the more intelligent you are, the more likely you are to be in a position to do some really, really foolish stuff. No-one trusts the village idiot with the nuclear codes.
Actually, that's a *really* bad analogy given American and Russia, isn't it?
The article you post is connected to his "reporting" of a case in Canterbury - the reason he's currently in jail is repeated libel of completely unfounded allegations against a Syrian refugee... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c704eedkqkvo
Read Frank Booth’s original post about the Labour AG.
Georgescu in Romania shows how the Internet and social media can be a very useful tool for subverting democracy.
You can read the full judgement of the outcome of the case at https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ag-v-yaxley-lennon-jmt-190709.pdf
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynm2700kgo
The Attorney General’s Office launched the new action against Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, over alleged breaches of a court order not to repeat defamatory lies about a Syrian refugee.
“All this has happened before and will happen again.”
There’s definitely a bit of “Suella” going on here. Jenrick is defining the position of the whole Conservative Party, daring Badenoch to sack him. If she doesn’t, she’s undermined and weaker, and Jenrick wins and grows stronger.
It’s a battle for the soul of the Conservative Party, where I sense 97% of PB is on Kemi side on this one.
To use the grooming gang victims as political football, to push one dimensional, opportunistic political points, copying pure populism from Musks ignorant outpourings, is such obvious betrayal of all victims. Because the bottom line every victim needs most, is change, that awful conviction rates for coercion and control and abuse isn’t happening again and again, that everyone everywhere, groomed, controlled, exploited and abused, get their perpetrator charged and justice via the courts and law. To have focus on anything other than this right now is simply the wrongheaded, irresponsible thing to do. because it simply isn’t over and historical as the impression Shadow Justice Secretary is pushing - look at what is going on today, the awful charging and conviction rates for the controlling behaviour abuse in UK today, the hard work still needed to be delivered by politicians of all parties.
By the end of tomorrow, if Jenrick has not resigned, Kemi should sack him, like Heath sacked Powell Enoch.
Twitter really is a sewer.
It breached pretty much there in the 70s, I think it required the local councils to chip in to get it repaired then.
The same Sean Thomas who 'in 2003 he wrote an article in The Spectator about his problems with internet porn, and how it caused him to “wank myself into hospital”'
He must have real respect for women.
What you have actually said is that Starmer was in charge when many of the groomers and rapists were prosecuted...
I am fairly certain about the Merchant Shipping Act, 1894
Any others?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/29/tommy-robinson-flees-uk-on-eurostar-amid-contempt-of-court-proceedings
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The solicitor general launched legal action against Robinson in June over an alleged breach of a court order after he lost a libel battle in 2021.
Labour had the chance to be a reforming government but seem frightened of their own shadow
The problem with rape is that it's a crime which often takes place in private, and which is only criminal if the victim's state of mind at the time make it so. It's therefore unsurprising that, unfortunately, in murky circumstances, when it's basically his word vs hers, particularly in cases where consent has been given in the past, juries have been reluctant to convict.
I'm deeply unconvinced that putting a finger on the scales by withholding relevant information (eg previous consent) is the right course of action. Sure it will mean more guilty men jailed, and that can only be a good thing, but IMHO the potential cost in innocent lives ruined is too high.
Incidentally, none of this is very relevant to the apparent difficulties in apprehending the grooming gangs currently being hotly discussed - enough of their victims were under 16 where it should have only required DNA/medical evidence that intercourse had occurred to prove a charge of statutory rapes.
I've not participated in any of the crimes, I don't know anybody who has, if I did I would have gone to the authorities.
Should I also come to terms with the CSE crimes committed by the Catholic Church and the Church of England or is that different?
And "too weak to slap Jenrick down" and "too stupid to realise that freedom to discuss difficult questions doesn't give freedom to just say anything" are the most charitable explanations I can come up with. If someone has a better one, I'm all ears.
For goodness sake even people like Yasmin AB were prepared to say this in the past. There are intelligent British Pakistanis who will say this.
Plenty of them have substance issues.
What was a common modus operandi of these crimes, plying them with booze and drugs to get them hooked.
$40bn seems cheap.
Liverpool could get 1 point from 5 games and still be ahead of City.
Liverpool are due to face Arsenal at Anfield, your list of mid-table away fixtures like Bournemouth etc aren't an imbalance.
https://www.youtube.com/@Lubna.Candid
But whenever I've suggested on here in the past that there might be a problem with male culture and attitudes to women, to sex, to consent and rape, and with the very low number of rape convictions achieved compared to the number of rapes committed, then I am told that the criminal justice system is working just fine in relation to rape.
Do you need to come to terms with the particular problem of misogyny among British men?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
Why it's interesting is the fact it has continued to collapse both ways along the canal, with erosion outside the sheet piling, as if the bank is being eroded away from the outside of the canal, not the inside. But IANAE.
(*) Actually point photos taken by users,
That said, if Reform start turning on themselves over all this then it could be bad news for him.
"One child who was being prepared to give evidence received a text saying the perpetrator had her younger sister and the choice of what happened next was up to her. She withdrew her statements. At least two other families were terrorised by groups of perpetrators, sitting in cars outside the family home, smashing windows, making abusive and threatening phone calls. On some occasions child victims went back to perpetrators in the belief that this was the only way their parents and other children in the family would be safe. In the most extreme cases, no one in the family believed that the authorities could protect them."
I have consistently said there's a problem and it needs sorting. I pointed out there was an approach by the mosques to stamp this out.
My mantra has always been let justice be done though the heavens fall.
It’s Twatter. And always has been.
As discussed here - https://youtu.be/d3Mrfut-FSw?si=sSoTKGZeFtwEQD0K
There was no prospect of prosecuting the men. Too difficult etc.
By arresting the girl, they took her away from the men and locked her up in a cell for the night.
Handling a salmon in suspicious circumstances?
Carrying a plank along a pavement in London? (If Musk comes over, could his escort be arrested under that law?)
Some examples here:
https://www.london-law.co.uk/the-curiosities-of-the-laws-of-the-land/
Excellently British.
For full effect, you need to be wearing three piece tweed, plus fours, affecting a moustache that can be used as a rifle rest, and personally thrashing a bounder.
Like Yarxley-Lennon.
I have an addiction to wearing morning suits.
I’d rather they actually pulled their fingers out and started doing stuff though. Follow Ed Miliband’s lead.
We need an overall inquiry, which is ferociously neutral and forensic. And will put people in court, and then in jail
Perhaps Skyr Toolmakersson will actually surprise us, and do that. If he does, I will be the first to applaud
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_justitia_ruat_caelum
The Tories have no track record of delivery - none. It therefore follows that to get anywhere with the electorate they are going to have to be MORE specific about their policies, timetable, costings, even drafting the bills ready, than the other parties. Kemi needs to get some policies - clever policies, well-thought out policies, eye-catching policies, do the ENGINEERING WORK on them and GET THEM OUT. That is where she will find the Tories' niche - the party of experience, receipts, and holding themselves accountable for delivery because they understand that they failed to deliver before.
In fact, looking at it again, the 'stream' might actually be an old course of the river.
But I'm probably wrong. It's fun thinking about it, though. At least for me...
(You can see the stream heading away from the embankment in the middle of the view below.)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/3DvEXRxS5BG37abd7
Edit:
So... thinking about it, as a WAG; if it is an old course of the river, could the flood water that built up on the upstream side of the embankment have eroded away the infill of the old river, allowing water to pass under the embankment and weakening its foundations?
https://x.com/tedcruz/status/1875984544828129472