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  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911
    Georgia swears it’s new president in as the previous President, in a Trumplike fit of pique refused to accept the loss.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rn2w0zw08o
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,296

    Anybody who listens to the mainstream football punditry for advice on betting wants their head explaining.
    "You won't win anything with kids"
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,068
    viewcode said:

    When Boris was elected and Hartlepool happened, I seriously started to work out how to bet a large proportion of my life savings on Con winning in 2024. There was a defacto limit of £120-ish on political bets in the shops at the time, so it involved me walking from shop to shop each Saturday, laying down about £350 each week for about four years. COVID, lockdown and a basic laziness prevented me, and by the time things settled down in 2022/3 they were behind in the polls.

    In short, we don't really know what will happen in 2029. My guess is that the WFA and 22bn to Miliband for magic gas has Ratnered the brand, but I don't know and won't know until the election campaign proper starts in four year's time.
    I would be surprised if "the WFA and 22bn to Miliband for magic gas" make the top ten issues at the next general election.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,198
    ...
    dixiedean said:

    What rhymes with bondegezou?
    Never seems to have troubled her in the past.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,737
    edited December 2024
    Carnyx said:

    Napalm = Naphthenate + Palmitate, ie.carboxylic (fatty) acid salts used (apparently) (do not try this at home)

    Naphthenic acid = a carboxylic acid derived from stuff in petroleum

    Naphtha = ancient word for petroleum, more recently a word for certain fractions from distilling petroleum

    So the first two and a half letters (on average) are the same root ... somehwat to my surprise as I thought Napalm was short for sodium palmitate.

    And school lessons or not I'd have used eye/face protection and a screen ...

    PS OED also comes up with this little gem:

    Cooked roux is called Cajun napalm in my restaurant's kitchen because it is extremely hot and sticks to your skin.
    Chef Paul Prudhomme's Louisiana Kitchen i. 28
    Yes - they used screens for the hydrogen / oxygen one.

    And in the vid you may have watched Drach (being a Chartered Mechanical Engineer I think) used overalls, a respirator and mask ("I like my lungs"), as he added his ingredients (naptha, pine resin to make it thicker, sulphur and quicklime to make it go fizz and provide heat in water) to damp sticks (to simulate a wet ship), outside.

    And worked in quantities of "1/3 of a shot glass".

    This is the experimental archaeology section:
    https://youtu.be/2KFIZk7wK40?t=2042
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613
    MattW said:

    Yes - they used screens for the hydrogen / oxygen one.

    And in the vid you may have watched Drach (being a Chartered Mechanical Engineer I think) used overalls, a respirator / mask ("I like my lungs"), as he added his ingredients (naptha, pine resin to make it thicker, sulphur and quicklime to make it go fizz and provide heat in water) to damp sticks (to simulate a wet ship).

    And worked in quantities of "1/3 of a shot glass".
    Quite, all a good start, but I'd still have worn eye protection and used a polycarbonate screen. If something is suspected of spitting when mixed with water ...

    (Haven't got to the hydrogen/oxygen one yet.)
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911
    J

    The difference being that all the international observers have said that both the Parliamentary and Presidential elections were fraudulent. Not something that could be claimed about Trump's 2020 loss.
    https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/georgia/579376

    No claims of fraudulence here. Yes some parties had advantages. However there was a wide choice of candidates who could campaign freely but some had advantages especially due to money.

  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,737
    edited December 2024

    Love that you can say 'It isn't "instead" - that's a lazy comment. It's one set of people who can usefully be consulted' and you can completely dismiss the world's richest man as irrelevant.

    Well done, you made laugh.
    I didn't dismiss him as irrelevant - read what I said, though I think you are deliberately misinterpreting. I suggested his wealth makes no difference to the process of evaluating what he says.

    BS is BS, no matter who it comes from.

    At the risk of Godwinning, Hitler was one of the world's richest men; it doesn't mean he deserved a hearing.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911

    ...

    Never seems to have troubled her in the past.
    I’m sure she could work Centrist Dad in there somehow.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,999

    The difference being that all the international observers have said that both the Parliamentary and Presidential elections were fraudulent. Not something that could be claimed about Trump's 2020 loss.
    Not for want of various Republican state Senates trying to "clean" their polling registers though.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,872

    Since Musk says a British civil war is ‘inevitable’, I guess it would be useful to know how to avoid it. Vote Farage would be part of it I imagine.

    Peter York on the radio this morning said Musk was now living his teenage years in opposition to the prematurely balding nerdy adolescent he was; (I paraphrase) chaotic Ill judged relationships with girls, lots of drugs and bellowing his half informed opinions at the world.
    Or, alternatively, he was always this way. His first wife may have evidence towards this...
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,296

    Since Musk says a British civil war is ‘inevitable’, I guess it would be useful to know how to avoid it. Vote Farage would be part of it I imagine.

    Peter York on the radio this morning said Musk was now living his teenage years in opposition to the prematurely balding nerdy adolescent he was; (I paraphrase) chaotic Ill judged relationships with girls, lots of drugs and bellowing his half informed opinions at the world.
    That Mar-a-Lago photocall after the election, the Trump family plus Musk and his infant son. Trump's voice just audible as he beckons Musk in, "and that perfect boy," he says in this croony creepy way.

    Really spooky. Like a cross between the Godfather and the Omen. Final scene probably. Viewers left to imagine the horrors now set to unfold.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,262
    MattW said:

    I didn't dismiss him as irrelevant - read what I said, though I think you are deliberately misinterpreting. I suggested his wealth makes no difference to the process of evaluating what he says.

    BS is BS, no matter who it comes from.

    At the risk of Godwinning, Hitler was one of the world's richest men.
    Was Hitler really rich; I'd always assumed he was too busy politicking to make money.

    Who got it all after April 1945? His missus was dead, too, and there were no little (by blood) Hitlers.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,198
    DavidL said:


    1. National program to invest in our infrastructure. Roads, railways, fibre broadband etc all pays positive ROI. It’s called capitalism. Look it up.

    I agree but we cannot afford to increase our deficit by enough to make a difference so we need to cut current spending to release money for capital spending.

    2. Tax businesses getting bought by foreigners looking to expatriate them. The reason why Germany still ha industry is that Germany didn’t let them be sold to foreigners looking to expatriate them.

    No. We need to sell £50bn of assets a year to offset our trade deficit. This means we have to put up with people buying our businesses and, hopefully, developing them here. We need tax policies that encourages that not tax policies which would encourage foreigners to get out of dodge soonest. Of course eliminating our trade deficit is even more important for our future well being than growth.

    3. Invest in education, training and universities. We can’t afford to go progressively stupider no matter how much stupid people insist that we can’t afford teachers or research.

    We actually do spend reasonable money on basic research. What we are really poor at is converting that research into businesses and then getting the capital to those businesses to allow them to grow. That is the problem. I am not seeing many answers right now.

    4. Build a shitton of houses through housing associations. Rent. Not buy. Decouple housing from investments.

    We certainly need a lot more houses. Personally, I am not fussed if they are publicly or privately owned.

    5. Decouple energy costs from imported crap we import in declining numbers. Invest in building the hardware we’re installing - lunacy to need 20k turbines nd import ll of the because we can’t afford to invest.

    In an open economy with a large number of interconnectors it is silly to pretend that we can decouple our energy costs from the going rate to a material extent. What we need to do is build up our capacity so we become a net energy exporter (see balance of payments).
    Your thinking on foreign takeovers is a little odd. You say we need to sell those assets because of our trade deficit, but seem to fail to understand that the loss of those profit-making engines is worsening our trade deficit. Flogging off the golden egg-laying geese is a losing strategy, and I am surprised that you favour it, given your sensible views on cutting current spending to preserve capital spending. That is the opposite strategy - short term sacrifice for long term gain. And is a sensible one.

    One of Labour's policies that I actually support (though I have no trust that they are implementing it in an effective way) is to raise capital gains tax. It needs to be much easier and cheaper to have a UK business, but a good deal less attractive than it is now to flog off a UK business.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001
    Carnyx said:

    Kazoo ...
    My crazy love for Bondegezou
    Was the only thing that ever felt true.

    I dreamt every night of of us saying “I do”
    Whilst he only dreamt of taking me up the kazoo.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839
    edited December 2024

    Was Hitler really rich; I'd always assumed he was too busy politicking to make money.

    Who got it all after April 1945? His missus was dead, too, and there were no little (by blood) Hitlers.
    His legatee was his sister, and then the Nazi Party, but in practice most of what remained of his wealth in gold and art was seized.

    Yes, he was very rich, as was Himmler, principally by taking their cut of the money robbed from the Jews and other victims of the Nazis.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911
    kinabalu said:

    That Mar-a-Lago photocall after the election, the Trump family plus Musk and his infant son. Trump's voice just audible as he beckons Musk in, "and that perfect boy," he says in this croony creepy way.

    Really spooky. Like a cross between the Godfather and the Omen. Final scene probably. Viewers left to imagine the horrors now set to unfold.
    Almost as utterly embarrassing as this

    https://x.com/altkaak/status/1835505593651749353?s=61
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,580
    DavidL said:

    What is it about the billionaire Taylor Swift that first attracted you?
    The figure, the symmetrical facial features, the singing voice, the songwriting talent, she's liberal, and her youth ( I am old enough to be her father).

    The billion dollar bank account is just a circumstantial bonus.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,262
    ydoethur said:

    His legatee was his sister, and then the Nazi Party, but in practice most of what remained of his wealth in gold and art was seized.

    Yes, he was very rich, as was Himmler, principally by taking their cut of the money robbed from the Jews and other victims of the Nazis.
    Ah, thanks. Don't think that was mentioned in 'The Last Days'. Makes sense, though.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911
    boulay said:

    My crazy love for Bondegezou
    Was the only thing that ever felt true.

    I dreamt every night of of us saying “I do”
    Whilst he only dreamt of taking me up the kazoo.

    Is it pronounced gezoo or gezow. I did wonder.

  • Taz said:

    J

    https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/georgia/579376

    No claims of fraudulence here. Yes some parties had advantages. However there was a wide choice of candidates who could campaign freely but some had advantages especially due to money.

    The devil is in the detail. The report makes accusations of buying of votes, voter intimidation, threats of sanction against public sector workers and a lack of secrecyninnthe voting process that allowed these things to happen. It falls far short of the standards we would expect in a free and fair election.

    And the Presidential vote was notveven a proper election. They changed the system so the President is appointed by a 300 member electoral college dominated by the new ruling party where previously it was by a proper national election.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,872
    Taz said:

    Almost as utterly embarrassing as this

    https://x.com/altkaak/status/1835505593651749353?s=61
    Nah, because you can see she's having fun. I doubt Trump's ever had fun in his life, given his demeanour. He'd make a good member of the Orange Order.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001
    Taz said:

    Is it pronounced gezoo or gezow. I did wonder.

    Good point!

    My crazy love for Bondegezou
    Made my ovaries twitch and my Fanny go wow

    But my heart was broken and plunged to despair
    When he saw my tax bill and said I didn’t pay my fair share.

    However I felt has left me now
    You lefty bastard, Bondegezou.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,559

    Not for want of various Republican state Senates trying to "clean" their polling registers though.
    Or Zuckerberg pouring money into buying turnout in blue areas.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,580
    Taz said:

    Almost as utterly embarrassing as this

    https://x.com/altkaak/status/1835505593651749353?s=61
    Not embarrassing at all.

    Do you remember when GOP media flunkies pitched AOC dancing the sequence from the Breakfast Club in order to humiliate her? Instead it became a positive internet sensation.
  • Nah, because you can see she's having fun. I doubt Trump's ever had fun in his life, given his demeanour. He'd make a good member of the Orange Order.
    I wonder what Paisley would have made of him.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,580
    boulay said:

    Good point!

    My crazy love for Bondegezou
    Made my ovaries twitch and my Fanny go wow

    But my heart was broken and plunged to despair
    When he saw my tax bill and said I didn’t pay my fair share.

    However I felt has left me now
    You lefty bastard, Bondegezou.
    I thought he wanted a song from Taylor Swift not Lily Allen.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,559

    Was Hitler really rich; I'd always assumed he was too busy politicking to make money.

    Who got it all after April 1945? His missus was dead, too, and there were no little (by blood) Hitlers.
    From what I understand, it was complicated (and the "Diaries" of the early 80s led to court cases) but most of it went to the Bavarian state government.
  • Not embarrassing at all.

    Do you remember when GOP media flunkies pitched AOC dancing the sequence from the Breakfast Club in order to humiliate her? Instead it became a positive internet sensation.
    I have to agree that the film is not embarrassing, particularly as she clearly has good rhythm. Losing to a complete c**t like Trump was more than a bit embarrassing though!
  • The same problem as with imported energy. It's fine until it isn't there. As we might find shortly with imports from Norway. One would think it is a nice stable country which can give us a stable supply. Of course that assumes we can stop our enemies cutting that supply.

    But even without that threat it seems we might not be able to rely on that supply much longer as there is very strong political pressure in Norway to end the energy export deals as they have caused a massive increase in energy prices in Norway.

    The more you rely on imports of good and energy the greater your exposure to price shocks and possible supply interruptions.
    Food is a lot more fungible than energy with a loy more sources able to supply it from and less of a reliance upon infrastructure that can be cut or only used by a single exporter.

    If anything the security argument further reinforces that we'd be more secure using our limited land to supply other things we need for a modern society such as energy or manufacturing and not putting all our eggs in the agriculture basket.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,580
    ....

    I have to agree that the film is not embarrassing, particularly as she clearly has good rhythm. Losing to a complete c**t like Trump was more than a bit embarrassing though!
    It was catastrophic.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911
    edited December 2024

    Nah, because you can see she's having fun. I doubt Trump's ever had fun in his life, given his demeanour. He'd make a good member of the Orange Order.
    Having fun or not it’s embarrassing.

    She can’t even dance. 😂😂😂😂😂

    She’s got all the poise and elegance of a drunk divorcee at a wedding screaming for attention.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911

    Not embarrassing at all.

    Do you remember when GOP media flunkies pitched AOC dancing the sequence from the Breakfast Club in order to humiliate her?
    Can’t say I do. No.

  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,872
    Taz said:

    Having fun or not it’s embarrassing.

    She can’t even dance.
    Oddly enough, I disagree. She's having fun.

    You should try it sometime.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,580
    Taz said:

    Can’t say I do. No.

    You'd love it. She was great.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911

    Food is a lot more fungible than energy with a loy more sources able to supply it from and less of a reliance upon infrastructure that can be cut or only used by a single exporter.

    If anything the security argument further reinforces that we'd be more secure using our limited land to supply other things we need for a modern society such as energy or manufacturing and not putting all our eggs in the agriculture basket.
    As an aside Fungible was the winning answer on The Wheel last night.

    I’d be interested in @RochdalePioneers thoughts on this as he’s in the trade.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,167
    edited December 2024

    Food is a lot more fungible than energy with a loy more sources able to supply it from and less of a reliance upon infrastructure that can be cut or only used by a single exporter.

    If anything the security argument further reinforces that we'd be more secure using our limited land to supply other things we need for a modern society such as energy or manufacturing and not putting all our eggs in the agriculture basket.
    Not at all. It still relies on the ability to transport the food from one place to another. And it still relies on the supplier being willing to maintain supplies over the long term. The more you rely upon imported food the greater the risk of disruption. It is a simple fact and one you seem to be unwilling or unable to accept.

    Moreover it exposes us to much higher food inflation. From the ONS:

    "The price of imported food materials has been rising at twice the rate of domestic food materials. Producer input prices for home-produced food materials rose by 15.1% in the 12 months to March 2023, while for imported food materials the increase was 29.1%."
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,737
    edited December 2024

    Was Hitler really rich; I'd always assumed he was too busy politicking to make money.

    Who got it all after April 1945? His missus was dead, too, and there were no little (by blood) Hitlers.
    Yes. The index linked figure (according to the Wiki piece) comes out at something like $5bn.

    Someone sent him a fine for tax evasion soon after he became Chancellor, and the response went back that tax law did not apply to the Fuehrer:

    The head of the Munich tax office declared: "All tax reports delivering substance for a tax obligation by the Führer are annulled from the start. The Führer is therefore tax-exempt."

    Then he received royalties for the Government published copies of Mein Kampf, his head on stamps etc.

    And there was a whole gangster state system around donations demanded from German industrialists. Plus donations from foreign supporters such as Henry Ford.

    Wiki:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_wealth_and_income

    A Mark Felton: (10 minutes)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QERDzr6HSQ

    It worked the other way, too, in that Hitler organised large donations to his senior military to ensure their support. Others here may know more about this side - I haven't read widely about it.
    Another Mark Felton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKroNuzQIQQ


  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911
    edited December 2024

    You'd love it. She was great.
    I prefer the original film.

    I don’t mind AOC. She’s consistent on her beliefs and I think is principled.

    The ‘We will rock you’ video with democrat politicians look like they’re giving a handjob was even more embarrassing
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,249
    MattW said:

    Yes. The index linked figure (according to the Wiki piece) comes out at something like $5bn.

    Someone sent him a fine for tax evasion soon after he became Chancellor, and the response went back that tax law did not apply to the Fuehrer:

    The head of the Munich tax office declared: "All tax reports delivering substance for a tax obligation by the Führer are annulled from the start. The Führer is therefore tax-exempt."

    Then he received royalties for the Government published copies of Mein Kampf, his head on stamps etc.

    And there was a whole gangster state system around donations demanded from German industrialists. Plus donations from foreign supporters such as Henry Ford.

    Wiki:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_wealth_and_income

    A Mark Felton: (10 minutes)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QERDzr6HSQ
    He earned a good living as an interior decorator, too.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911

    Oddly enough, I disagree. She's having fun.

    You should try it sometime.
    Lol.

    I have plenty of fun and a happy life and a, about to retire and am planning with my wife all the things we will do, and have had a cracking weekend, but thanks for the advice 😂😂😂😂
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911

    I have to agree that the film is not embarrassing, particularly as she clearly has good rhythm.
    ‘Good rhythm’ that’s a bit of a stereotype old chap.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,999
    Looks like Forest going second. 2-0 up.

    More interestingly, it will be only the secod time that Forest have won at both Anfield and Goodison in the same season since eighteen hundred and something.
  • Taz said:

    As an aside Fungible was the winning answer on The Wheel last night.

    I’d be interested in @RochdalePioneers thoughts on this as he’s in the trade.
    I believe the proposal is to close down agriculture and “use our limited land for something more valuable”. It would need to be - the price of imports go up when the purchaser is a supplicant.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,737
    edited December 2024
    Taz said:

    ‘Good rhythm’ that’s a bit of a stereotype old chap.
    She's been associated with a black-lead church for a long time; of course she has good rhythm !

    Harris is a Baptist, holding membership of the Third Baptist Church of San Francisco, a congregation of the American Baptist Churches USA.

    I bet she claps off the beat, too.

    The UK version of such dancing is a shuffle at random points unrelated to the music from one foot to the other, and back, whilst looking something between embarrassed mortified. For this I blame the Church of England, and equivalents.
  • Sean_F said:

    He earned a good living as an interior decorator, too.
    He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon. Two coats!
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,872
    Taz said:

    Lol.

    I have plenty of fun and a happy life and a, about to retire and am planning with my wife all the things we will do, and have had a cracking weekend, but thanks for the advice 😂😂😂😂
    But you don't recognise when other people are having fun?

    Anyway, I hope you enjoy your retirement, and find lots of interesting (and fun) stuff to do.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,105
    edited December 2024
    Completely OT. Anyone know where this statue is? The large shot by Robert Doisneau with the couple infront

    https://www.artsy.net/artwork/robert-doisneau-untitled-5
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911

    I believe the proposal is to close down agriculture and “use our limited land for something more valuable”. It would need to be - the price of imports go up when the purchaser is a supplicant.
    Thanks.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911

    But you don't recognise when other people are having fun?

    Anyway, I hope you enjoy your retirement, and find lots of interesting (and fun) stuff to do.
    Girls just wanna have fun. People are having a dig at Trump for a bit of fun. So im just using this as a counter.

    Thanks, I have quite a few things planned and we have rejoined the National Trust too. I have mastered home brew. Made far too much last year. About to start on a bottle of raisin wine. Good at bread and piccalilli. Plan to get into Cheese making, chutnies, charity shops for DVDs I can sell, Vinted, clearing the loft of my Dr Who books. Also art. I’m shit at it. Remember getting an E for a picture of David Gower I copied from a newspaper at school.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,296
    Taz said:

    Almost as utterly embarrassing as this

    https://x.com/altkaak/status/1835505593651749353?s=61
    What's embarrassing there?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,296
    Taz said:

    Girls just wanna have fun. People are having a dig at Trump for a bit of fun. So im just using this as a counter.

    Thanks, I have quite a few things planned and we have rejoined the National Trust too. I have mastered home brew. Made far too much last year. About to start on a bottle of raisin wine. Good at bread and piccalilli. Plan to get into Cheese making, chutnies, charity shops for DVDs I can sell, Vinted, clearing the loft of my Dr Who books. Also art. I’m shit at it. Remember getting an E for a picture of David Gower I copied from a newspaper at school.
    Nobody's having a dig at Trump for a bit of fun.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001
    Roger said:

    Completely OT. Anyone know where this statue is? The large shot by Robert Doisneau with the couple infront

    https://www.artsy.net/artwork/robert-doisneau-untitled-5

    Hi Roger

    The location is in the technical details towards the bottom.

    https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Crauk_combat_du_Centaure.jpg
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,999

    He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon. Two coats!
    Soon be springtime.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,105
    boulay said:

    Hi Roger

    The location is in the technical details towards the bottom.

    https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Crauk_combat_du_Centaure.jpg
    Many thanks. A great help
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,262
    Sean_F said:

    He earned a good living as an interior decorator, too.
    It’s amazing what knowledge colleagues on here can pass on. Thanks for the info, everyone. Although what, if anything, I’ll do with it …..
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911
    >

    Soon be springtime.
    He was just a paper hanger, no one more obscurer.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,432
    edited December 2024
    Roger said:

    Completely OT. Anyone know where this statue is? The large shot by Robert Doisneau with the couple infront

    https://www.artsy.net/artwork/robert-doisneau-untitled-5

    It looks like the battle between the Centaurs and the Lapiths, after the Centaurs got drunk at a wedding and kidnapped some young Lapith women.

    It's one of the themes of the Parthenon marbles in the British Museum, but that isn't one of those statues, I think.


  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,737
    edited December 2024
    Perun of the Day.

    I haven't listened yet, but I think it is a little different.

    Building the Worst WW2 Air Force - Terrible Aircraft and How to Sell Them
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g37zdE8jrg4

    CONGRATULATIONS - You are in charge of military procurement for the fictional state of Emutopia in 1946. Your official job is to buy the best aircraft possible for the air force in order to prepare for an invasion of the neighbouring state of Kiwiland.

    Unofficially, you are a Kiwi sympathiser, and your task is to deploy every trick you know to make sure Emutopia buys awful kit - while not giving anyone reason to suspect that you're sandbagging the force on purpose.

    The challenge is simple, and owes a lot to the old concept of the fictional state of Elbonia and its storied history of military procurement that many of you would be familiar from past forgotten weapons content.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,262
    Taz said:

    Girls just wanna have fun. People are having a dig at Trump for a bit of fun. So im just using this as a counter.

    Thanks, I have quite a few things planned and we have rejoined the National Trust too. I have mastered home brew. Made far too much last year. About to start on a bottle of raisin wine. Good at bread and piccalilli. Plan to get into Cheese making, chutnies, charity shops for DVDs I can sell, Vinted, clearing the loft of my Dr Who books. Also art. I’m shit at it. Remember getting an E for a picture of David Gower I copied from a newspaper at school.
    Do as much as you can while you’re fit enough to do it. One of the problems with getting older is that things start to fall off or otherwise go wrong.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,737

    It’s amazing what knowledge colleagues on here can pass on. Thanks for the info, everyone. Although what, if anything, I’ll do with it …..
    If you were Born in the USA, you'd be standing for President ...
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,911

    Do as much as you can while you’re fit enough to do it. One of the problems with getting older is that things start to fall off or otherwise go wrong.
    Thanks OKC. I’m 59. I reckon I’ve got 8 to 10 years before I really start to slow down. And spend less. It’s One of the reasons I want to go now. I’ve stopped cycling to work as last time I did it I pulled a thigh muscle. Used to do it daily.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,262
    MattW said:

    If you were Born in the USA, you'd be standing for President ...
    I’m even older than Biden so no!
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,262
    edited December 2024
    Taz said:

    Thanks OKC. I’m 59. I reckon I’ve got 8 to 10 years before I really start to slow down. And spend less. It’s One of the reasons I want to go now. I’ve stopped cycling to work as last time I did it I pulled a thigh muscle. Used to do it daily.
    If you’re reasonably fit you might well have fifteen to twenty years before you need to slow down much.
    Good luck!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839
    edited December 2024

    If you’re reasonably fit you might well have fifteen to twenty years before you need to slow down much.
    Good luck!
    And if you're not, give it 20 years and then aim to be President.

    Seriously, enjoy what I am sure is a well-earned retirement.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,559

    I would be surprised if "the WFA and 22bn to Miliband for magic gas" make the top ten issues at the next general election.
    By the next election it will be £50 billion committed to CCS, if the rollout of the remainder of Track 1, Track 1 Expansion and Track 2 is going to happen.

    But not all of that will go to multinational oil companies.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,559
    What I learnt today:

    Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.

    Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,774
    viewcode said:

    When Boris was elected and Hartlepool happened, I seriously started to work out how to bet a large proportion of my life savings on Con winning in 2024. There was a defacto limit of £120-ish on political bets in the shops at the time, so it involved me walking from shop to shop each Saturday, laying down about £350 each week for about four years. COVID, lockdown and a basic laziness prevented me, and by the time things settled down in 2022/3 they were behind in the polls.

    In short, we don't really know what will happen in 2029. My guess is that the WFA and 22bn to Miliband for magic gas has Ratnered the brand, but I don't know and won't know until the election campaign proper starts in four year's time.
    Curiously the carbon capture scheme has come through as far as I can tell unaltered from the previous Conservative government, including the 20 billion "investment" figure. But no-one is admitting this.

    https://www.ccsassociation.org/all-news/ccsa-news/government-launches-uk-ccus-industry-with-20-billion-for-early-deployment/
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,872

    What I learnt today:

    Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.

    Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.

    I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839

    I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
    Really? I'm surprised.

    I would have thought there would be a 100% correlation with being a ginormous arsehole.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613
    Foxy said:

    It looks like the battle between the Centaurs and the Lapiths, after the Centaurs got drunk at a wedding and kidnapped some young Lapith women.

    It's one of the themes of the Parthenon marbles in the British Museum, but that isn't one of those statues, I think.


    I got C19 vibes and Paris/France so tried searching for a centaur battle in Paris and got this ...

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crauk_combat_du_Centaure.jpg
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839
    #notatallbehavinglikeadictator

    New elections could take up to four years, Syria rebel leader says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g29e1lejvo
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001

    I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
    Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,313
    ydoethur said:

    Really? I'm surprised.

    I would have thought there would be a 100% correlation with being a ginormous arsehole.
    That's Lamborghinis. And it's a 1 to 1 correspondence. Which is odd because I doubt they do much letter writing.

  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,774
    FF43 said:

    Curiously the carbon capture scheme has come through as far as I can tell unaltered from the previous Conservative government, including the 20 billion "investment" figure. But no-one is admitting this.

    https://www.ccsassociation.org/all-news/ccsa-news/government-launches-uk-ccus-industry-with-20-billion-for-early-deployment/
    I mean the Conservatives aren't admitting the "magic gas" is actually their scheme and Labour aren't admitting that they were apparently launching a project that was already underway.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839
    Omnium said:

    That's Lamborghinis. And it's a 1 to 1 correspondence. Which is odd because I doubt they do much letter writing.

    Do they worry about being stamped out?
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,313

    I’m even older than Biden so no!
    That's very old. But with JackW around you're barely a baby! Didn't he bounce Moses on his knee?
  • I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
    Oi, I used to be a Ferrari driver, my first car was a Volvo.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,313

    Oi, I used to be a Ferrari driver, my first car was a Volvo.
    Why? x2!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613

    Oi, I used to be a Ferrari driver, my first car was a Volvo.
    Oh, you had a Scalextric set?
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,644
    ydoethur said:

    #notatallbehavinglikeadictator

    New elections could take up to four years, Syria rebel leader says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g29e1lejvo

    That sounds actually reasonable. Withholding judgment on the new regime still seems the right course.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,211
    edited December 2024

    The difference being that all the international observers have said that both the Parliamentary and Presidential elections were fraudulent. Not something that could be claimed about Trump's 2020 loss.
    The other difference being the mass crowds turning out to protest the stolen election, every night for the last month, while masked ‘security forces’ kidnap opposition leaders.

    Day 31:
    https://x.com/AnnaGvarishvili/status/1873406458324558256

    Yesterday’s human chain.
    https://x.com/SteDjokovic/status/1872982948959695155
  • Carnyx said:

    Oh, you had a Scalextric set?
    That too.

    Thanks to my parents giving me a great start in life and my own hard work, I paid off my mortgage before I was 28.

    Best vehicle I ever owned was the Porsche Cayenne Turbo. A sports car on a 4x4 floor plan.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,211

    Oi, I used to be a Ferrari driver, my first car was a Volvo.
    It’s also a gross slur on Sir Lewis.
  • Nigelb said:

    It’s also a gross slur on Sir Lewis.
    Indeed.
  • boulay said:

    Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
    The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001

    The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
    They aren’t trying to race you, they are just trying to keep up to make sure it’s really their girlfriend they have just seen, bent over in your lap, before they go home to their mum’s house to cry.
  • The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
    The wrong Corsa action?
  • Food is a lot more fungible than energy with a loy more sources able to supply it from and less of a reliance upon infrastructure that can be cut or only used by a single exporter.

    If anything the security argument further reinforces that we'd be more secure using our limited land to supply other things we need for a modern society such as energy or manufacturing and not putting all our eggs in the agriculture basket.
    You really do need to get out more! That said, it is quite amusing to occasionally come on here and find out what subject you have chosen to talk out of your arse on today! I am sure many of us come on here to talk bollox, but you really have a PhD in that capacity.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839

    The wrong Corsa action?
    Per ardua, add Astra?
  • The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
    They are not trying to race you, you have simply made that assumption when in reality they are simply trying to wave the wanker sign at you.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,313

    The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
    So are we to understand that you spent your life when owning a Ferrari worrying about the little guy with the revvy engine next to you at the lights?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,737

    Oi, I used to be a Ferrari driver, my first car was a Volvo.
    Why do you think that Volvos are any different to Ferraris as a reputation-trasher? :smile:

    Volvo pivoted some time ago to huge tonka-tanks. They are not as Ratnered as say BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Land-Rover or some VWs, but they are working on it. At least they don't - as far as I am aware anyway - do Volvo 18ft long Crew Cab pickups.

    Prejudiced - moi?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,152
    ydoethur said:

    Per ardua, add Astra?
    Don't put the Mokkas on it.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,580

    Don't put the Mokkas on it.
    These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,118
    Taz said:

    Georgia swears it’s new president in as the previous President, in a Trumplike fit of pique refused to accept the loss.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rn2w0zw08o

    The Georgian election really was rigged. Very blatantly. Comparing to Trump's defeat in 2020 is very poor.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839

    These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
    Have we discovered a brave new Frontera of puns?
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