Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
The wrong Corsa action?
Per ardua, add Astra?
Don't put the Mokkas on it.
These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
The self-propelled mini caravan set think of it as continual temporary parking at speed.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
The wrong Corsa action?
Per ardua, add Astra?
Don't put the Mokkas on it.
These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
The wrong Corsa action?
Per ardua, add Astra?
Don't put the Mokkas on it.
These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
The wrong Corsa action?
Per ardua, add Astra?
Don't put the Mokkas on it.
These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
The wrong Corsa action?
Per ardua, add Astra?
Don't put the Mokkas on it.
These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
Have we discovered a brave new Frontera of puns?
A high Calibra of puns.
Viva boy racers!
You're being a bit Capricious with that one.
You should be Escorted from the site for bringing Ford into this.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
The wrong Corsa action?
Per ardua, add Astra?
Don't put the Mokkas on it.
These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
Have we discovered a brave new Frontera of puns?
A high Calibra of puns.
Viva boy racers!
You're being a bit Capricious with that one.
You should be Escorted from the site for bringing Ford into this.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
The wrong Corsa action?
Per ardua, add Astra?
Don't put the Mokkas on it.
These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
Have we discovered a brave new Frontera of puns?
A high Calibra of puns.
Viva boy racers!
You're being a bit Capricious with that one.
You should be Escorted from the site for bringing Ford into this.
Can we please keep some focus here?
You can have any shade of humour, as long as it's black.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
The problem when you have a performance super car then every boy racer and bellend on the road in a souped 1 litre Corsa thinks they can race you.
The wrong Corsa action?
Per ardua, add Astra?
Don't put the Mokkas on it.
These motorists have a Cavalier attitude to driving.
Have we discovered a brave new Frontera of puns?
A high Calibra of puns.
Viva boy racers!
You're being a bit Capricious with that one.
You should be Escorted from the site for bringing Ford into this.
Can we please keep some focus here?
You can have any shade of humour, as long as it's black.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
Indeed that title of bound to be arseholes is reserved for BMW drivers.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
Indeed that title of bound to be arseholes is reserved for BMW drivers.
Excuse me. I drive like an old lady in my Old Man Gold 320d.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
What are you basing your judgement on it being “a pretty good chance”? What’s your sample size you are making this comment from? Or is it just a bit of a puritan knee-jerk based on some weird feels?
Out of probably just over 40 people I know who have Ferraris, I would say three are utter cnts, another three are a bit dickish and the rest are just people who made a lot of money and love cars and some thrill they get with their choice of car.
I really do think the vast majority of people who profess that the vast majority of Ferrari drivers are problematic don’t really know any Ferrari owners, or just one who might be like the Harry Enfield Brummie or a wannabe footballer.
It’s like people from outside certain neighbourhoods of London judging the inhabitants badly without actually knowing anyone who lives there or frankly ever being there.
I always had you down as a calm, evidence and experience type of chap rather than curmudgeonly and judgy. I’m disappointed Kinabalu.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
What are you basing your judgement on it being “a pretty good chance”? What’s your sample size you are making this comment from? Or is it just a bit of a puritan knee-jerk based on some weird feels?
Out of probably just over 40 people I know who have Ferraris, I would say three are utter cnts, another three are a bit dickish and the rest are just people who made a lot of money and love cars and some thrill they get with their choice of car.
I really do think the vast majority of people who profess that the vast majority of Ferrari drivers are problematic don’t really know any Ferrari owners, or just one who might be like the Harry Enfield Brummie or a wannabe footballer.
It’s like people from outside certain neighbourhoods of London judging the inhabitants badly without actually knowing anyone who lives there or frankly ever being there.
I always had you down as a calm, evidence and experience type of chap rather than curmudgeonly and judgy. I’m disappointed Kinabalu.
Liverpool clean sheet so far and five on the road again, scoring for fun.
14 goals (so far) in the three festive Christmas games. Incredible!
This team is something else. When I did my utterly fabulous 8/1 for the title bet I'd be lying if I said I thought it would be looking like this after 19 games.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Far fewer still than bred in UK and as I said we also produce our own lamb or beef though doesn't mean we have no demand at all for Australian beef or NZ lamb
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
Indeed that title of bound to be arseholes is reserved for BMW drivers.
No, I used to have one of those. White convertible.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
What are you basing your judgement on it being “a pretty good chance”? What’s your sample size you are making this comment from? Or is it just a bit of a puritan knee-jerk based on some weird feels?
Out of probably just over 40 people I know who have Ferraris, I would say three are utter cnts, another three are a bit dickish and the rest are just people who made a lot of money and love cars and some thrill they get with their choice of car.
I really do think the vast majority of people who profess that the vast majority of Ferrari drivers are problematic don’t really know any Ferrari owners, or just one who might be like the Harry Enfield Brummie or a wannabe footballer.
It’s like people from outside certain neighbourhoods of London judging the inhabitants badly without actually knowing anyone who lives there or frankly ever being there.
I always had you down as a calm, evidence and experience type of chap rather than curmudgeonly and judgy. I’m disappointed Kinabalu.
Jay Kay has a home down here near Dartmouth. He drives his Ferraris.
Aside from being a bit dickish to drive Frerraris along Devon lanes, he has seemed a nice enough bloke when I have met him. He has offered to play for free at the Dart Musivc Festival (which we had to decline because we couldn't cope with the extra people coming into the town).
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
Or Scotland is if an indyref2 was ever granted and Yes won and Westminster ever implemented it and the Scottish government was not able to negotiate its own trade deal with Australia and NZ swiftly to replace the UK deals with Australia and NZ it would have lost
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
It was a joke. This is why Leon's dislike of smileys is wrong.
An anecdote: I was once driving in the right-hand lane of a motorway as a convertible came screaming up behind me. It flashed its lights, and I waited for a gap to pull into the middle lane, and looked over my shoulder as the car came screaming past. I expected to see some small-dicked, middle-aged w@nker. Instead, I saw two older ladies with their hair tied up and wrapped, smiling broadly.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Far fewer still than bred in UK and as I said we also produce our own lamb or beef though doesn't mean we have no demand at all for Australian beef or NZ lamb
They're certainly not going to import pheasant meat.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Far fewer still than bred in UK and as I said we also produce our own lamb or beef though doesn't mean we have no demand at all for Australian beef or NZ lamb
They're certainly not going to import pheasant meat.
Why not? Plenty of demand for it in higher income New Zealand and Australia households
Liverpool clean sheet so far and five on the road again, scoring for fun.
14 goals (so far) in the three festive Christmas games. Incredible!
This team is something else. When I did my utterly fabulous 8/1 for the title bet I'd be lying if I said I thought it would be looking like this after 19 games.
Utterly remarkable record is that after 19 games Salah has both scored and assisted in 8 of those games.
No other player has ever done that in a full 38 game season!
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
Indeed that title of bound to be arseholes is reserved for BMW drivers.
No, I used to have one of those. White convertible.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Far fewer still than bred in UK and as I said we also produce our own lamb or beef though doesn't mean we have no demand at all for Australian beef or NZ lamb
They're certainly not going to import pheasant meat.
Why not? Plenty of demand for it in higher income New Zealand and Australia households
Because of the costs of import and biopsecurity measures. Local stuff will be a lot cheaper. And most pheasant is gash anyway, a by product of shooting. Remember the discussions on here - they can barely get rid of the stuff in the UK, except as catfood.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Far fewer still than bred in UK and as I said we also produce our own lamb or beef though doesn't mean we have no demand at all for Australian beef or NZ lamb
They're certainly not going to import pheasant meat.
Why not? Plenty of demand for it in higher income New Zealand and Australia households
Because of the costs of import and biopsecurity measures. Local stuff will be a lot cheaper. And most pheasant is gash anyway, a by product of shooting. Remember the discussions on here - they can barely get rid of the stuff in the UK, except as catfood.
There are high costs to import Australian and NZ meat too then and tight regulations in food hygiene
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
Indeed that title of bound to be arseholes is reserved for BMW drivers.
Arsehole drivers according to me:
(1) BMW (2) Ferrari (3) Tesla Cybertruck
Also, people who drive Nissan Leaf's on the motorway and who can't get their speed up above about 60mph.
And the guy who opened his door into the side of my Rivian, saw he'd damaged it, and then drove off without leaving a note. He's a total arsehole.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
It was a joke. This is why Leon's dislike of smileys is wrong.
An anecdote: I was once driving in the right-hand lane of a motorway as a convertible came screaming up behind me. It flashed its lights, and I waited for a gap to pull into the middle lane, and looked over my shoulder as the car came screaming past. I expected to see some small-dicked, middle-aged w@nker. Instead, I saw two older ladies with their hair tied up and wrapped, smiling broadly.
I couldn't help but smile as well.
The other day, I took the dog for a walk around a local iron age fort (Blackdown Rings - stunning views over south Devon). Was somewhat surprised to see just a gleaming silver Aston Martin DB5 in the car park. It too was driven by a couple of older ladies.
A few years back, my wife made a documentary about Ferrari in the 50's (Ferrari - Race to Immortality) - 90% with critics on Rotten Tomatoes. She had a screening in highly secure garaging in north London, surrounded by dozens of Ferraris. These included Ascari's F1 championship winning car from 1952. Untold millions by value. But the owners were invariably cheery blokes (all blokes, admittedly).
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
Indeed that title of bound to be arseholes is reserved for BMW drivers.
Good evening
Pleased I sold my BMW last January and bought a smaller Mercedes then !!!!
My main experience of regulators (FCA) is that they have imposed huge burden on industry, particularly where none was asked or necessary. Creating huge, expensive, complex requirements on businesses that fail to solve problems or target wrong areas. To the point, where it was one of the reasons for not wanting to go back into the industry.
Ultimately, all of this endless regurgitated regulation was always being paid for by customers.
These people would be the last ones I would ask for opinions on growth.
Anyway, I could have sworn that just a few months ago, Starmer and Reeves hosted a growth summit, specifically excluding Musk. Looks like that went well. They haven't a clue. Desperate times.
You think aligning yourself with Musk would look good? The man who this week pissed off the half of Americans who still liked him? The man who has shown himself to be incredibly petty by banning or demonetising people who disagree with him on X? The man who said Matt Gaetz was a great choice for Attorney General?
You don't have to align yourself to him. You could maybe just listen, rather than completely snub (he probably wouldn't have turned up). At least it would look like you were trying.
This government is showing it has no ideas, it's telling everyone it has no ideas. It's sounding desperate.
And how would Musk turning up and ranting about the AfD and Reform UK being the future have benefitted a growth summit?
If anyone wants to “listen” to Musk, he posts non-stop on X. If anyone reads everything Musk posts, they’ll soon realise that there’s very little value in listening to him.
It's this type of thinking that shows your bias, that imagines that the world's richest person, the head of Department of Government Efficiency for US, a man who has had a lifetime of involvement in tech companies and is now prominent in government, has nothing to tell us.
That instead, we should be listening to a group of regulators to lead us into growth.
All because you don't like him (nor do I particularly). No wonder we have no growth, when we have no imagination.
Musk ‘s political ‘advice’ (which barely deserves the description), has bugger all to do with UK growth.
Since Musk says a British civil war is ‘inevitable’, I guess it would be useful to know how to avoid it. Vote Farage would be part of it I imagine.
Peter York on the radio this morning said Musk was now living his teenage years in opposition to the prematurely balding nerdy adolescent he was; (I paraphrase) chaotic Ill judged relationships with girls, lots of drugs and bellowing his half informed opinions at the world.
That Mar-a-Lago photocall after the election, the Trump family plus Musk and his infant son. Trump's voice just audible as he beckons Musk in, "and that perfect boy," he says in this croony creepy way.
Really spooky. Like a cross between the Godfather and the Omen. Final scene probably. Viewers left to imagine the horrors now set to unfold.
Nah, because you can see she's having fun. I doubt Trump's ever had fun in his life, given his demeanour. He'd make a good member of the Orange Order.
Having fun or not it’s embarrassing.
She can’t even dance.
Oddly enough, I disagree. She's having fun.
You should try it sometime.
Lol.
I have plenty of fun and a happy life and a, about to retire and am planning with my wife all the things we will do, and have had a cracking weekend, but thanks for the advice 😂😂😂😂
An odd accusation to another member from the PB-morale enforcer general.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
It was a joke. This is why Leon's dislike of smileys is wrong.
An anecdote: I was once driving in the right-hand lane of a motorway as a convertible came screaming up behind me. It flashed its lights, and I waited for a gap to pull into the middle lane, and looked over my shoulder as the car came screaming past. I expected to see some small-dicked, middle-aged w@nker. Instead, I saw two older ladies with their hair tied up and wrapped, smiling broadly.
I couldn't help but smile as well.
Many years ago, one very frail and elderly lady of my acquaintance confided to me that she loved being driven by her grandson. Oh, really? "Yes," she said, with an almost manic twinkle in her eyes, "I love speed!"
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
It was a joke. This is why Leon's dislike of smileys is wrong.
An anecdote: I was once driving in the right-hand lane of a motorway as a convertible came screaming up behind me. It flashed its lights, and I waited for a gap to pull into the middle lane, and looked over my shoulder as the car came screaming past. I expected to see some small-dicked, middle-aged w@nker. Instead, I saw two older ladies with their hair tied up and wrapped, smiling broadly.
I couldn't help but smile as well.
Many years ago, one very frail and elderly lady of my acquaintance confided to me that she loved being driven by her grandson. Oh, really? "Yes," she said, with an almost manic twinkle in her eyes, "I love speed!"
It was clear that she really did love speed.
Good evening, everyone.
I like Jasper Carrott's story of the little old lady driver - Never had an accident but witnessed lots of them
My main experience of regulators (FCA) is that they have imposed huge burden on industry, particularly where none was asked or necessary. Creating huge, expensive, complex requirements on businesses that fail to solve problems or target wrong areas. To the point, where it was one of the reasons for not wanting to go back into the industry.
Ultimately, all of this endless regurgitated regulation was always being paid for by customers.
These people would be the last ones I would ask for opinions on growth.
Anyway, I could have sworn that just a few months ago, Starmer and Reeves hosted a growth summit, specifically excluding Musk. Looks like that went well. They haven't a clue. Desperate times.
You think aligning yourself with Musk would look good? The man who this week pissed off the half of Americans who still liked him? The man who has shown himself to be incredibly petty by banning or demonetising people who disagree with him on X? The man who said Matt Gaetz was a great choice for Attorney General?
You don't have to align yourself to him. You could maybe just listen, rather than completely snub (he probably wouldn't have turned up). At least it would look like you were trying.
This government is showing it has no ideas, it's telling everyone it has no ideas. It's sounding desperate.
And how would Musk turning up and ranting about the AfD and Reform UK being the future have benefitted a growth summit?
If anyone wants to “listen” to Musk, he posts non-stop on X. If anyone reads everything Musk posts, they’ll soon realise that there’s very little value in listening to him.
It's this type of thinking that shows your bias, that imagines that the world's richest person, the head of Department of Government Efficiency for US, a man who has had a lifetime of involvement in tech companies and is now prominent in government, has nothing to tell us.
That instead, we should be listening to a group of regulators to lead us into growth.
All because you don't like him (nor do I particularly). No wonder we have no growth, when we have no imagination.
Musk ‘s political ‘advice’ (which barely deserves the description), has bugger all to do with UK growth.
Since Musk says a British civil war is ‘inevitable’, I guess it would be useful to know how to avoid it. Vote Farage would be part of it I imagine.
Peter York on the radio this morning said Musk was now living his teenage years in opposition to the prematurely balding nerdy adolescent he was; (I paraphrase) chaotic Ill judged relationships with girls, lots of drugs and bellowing his half informed opinions at the world.
That Mar-a-Lago photocall after the election, the Trump family plus Musk and his infant son. Trump's voice just audible as he beckons Musk in, "and that perfect boy," he says in this croony creepy way.
Really spooky. Like a cross between the Godfather and the Omen. Final scene probably. Viewers left to imagine the horrors now set to unfold.
Nah, because you can see she's having fun. I doubt Trump's ever had fun in his life, given his demeanour. He'd make a good member of the Orange Order.
Having fun or not it’s embarrassing.
She can’t even dance.
Oddly enough, I disagree. She's having fun.
You should try it sometime.
Lol.
I have plenty of fun and a happy life and a, about to retire and am planning with my wife all the things we will do, and have had a cracking weekend, but thanks for the advice 😂😂😂😂
An odd accusation to another member from the PB-morale enforcer general.
Liverpool clean sheet so far and five on the road again, scoring for fun.
14 goals (so far) in the three festive Christmas games. Incredible!
This team is something else. When I did my utterly fabulous 8/1 for the title bet I'd be lying if I said I thought it would be looking like this after 19 games.
Hope they are offering to buy you out for at least 6/1...
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
It was a joke. This is why Leon's dislike of smileys is wrong.
An anecdote: I was once driving in the right-hand lane of a motorway as a convertible came screaming up behind me. It flashed its lights, and I waited for a gap to pull into the middle lane, and looked over my shoulder as the car came screaming past. I expected to see some small-dicked, middle-aged w@nker. Instead, I saw two older ladies with their hair tied up and wrapped, smiling broadly.
I couldn't help but smile as well.
Many years ago, one very frail and elderly lady of my acquaintance confided to me that she loved being driven by her grandson. Oh, really? "Yes," she said, with an almost manic twinkle in her eyes, "I love speed!"
It was clear that she really did love speed.
Good evening, everyone.
I like Jasper Carrott's story of the little old lady driver - Never had an accident but witnessed lots of them
Didn't he call his wife to warn her about a report of someone driving the wrong way on the motorway, to be told, "It's not just one. There are dozens of them."
A few years back, my wife made a documentary about Ferrari in the 50's (Ferrari - Race to Immortality) - 90% with critics on Rotten Tomatoes.
Very good it is.
Thank you. I'll pass that on.
I was lucky enough to be at Brands Hatch the day they had two 1950's F1 Ferraris being filmed. These days, Brands Hatch has a noise limit of 100 decibels. These cars ran at 120 plus. Somehow, my wife managed to blag three laps at full racing speed (and sound). They screamed round.
She then got a text from the Control Tower. Fearing the worst, she hesitantly peered at it.
It read "That was utterly awesome!!!!"
(I also got taken on a lap in the Safety Car. Which was great. Even if it was a BMW...)
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Far fewer still than bred in UK and as I said we also produce our own lamb or beef though doesn't mean we have no demand at all for Australian beef or NZ lamb
They're certainly not going to import pheasant meat.
Why not? Plenty of demand for it in higher income New Zealand and Australia households
Because of the costs of import and biopsecurity measures. Local stuff will be a lot cheaper. And most pheasant is gash anyway, a by product of shooting. Remember the discussions on here - they can barely get rid of the stuff in the UK, except as catfood.
The only pheasant I've ever had was 'accidentally run over' by a farmer uncle on his way home. Two brace of them in fact. Very unlucky birds, it seems.
Also the only time I've had a swan egg. Another unfortunate accident, apparently.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
What are you basing your judgement on it being “a pretty good chance”? What’s your sample size you are making this comment from? Or is it just a bit of a puritan knee-jerk based on some weird feels?
Out of probably just over 40 people I know who have Ferraris, I would say three are utter cnts, another three are a bit dickish and the rest are just people who made a lot of money and love cars and some thrill they get with their choice of car.
I really do think the vast majority of people who profess that the vast majority of Ferrari drivers are problematic don’t really know any Ferrari owners, or just one who might be like the Harry Enfield Brummie or a wannabe footballer.
It’s like people from outside certain neighbourhoods of London judging the inhabitants badly without actually knowing anyone who lives there or frankly ever being there.
I always had you down as a calm, evidence and experience type of chap rather than curmudgeonly and judgy. I’m disappointed Kinabalu.
My best mate has one and he's an arsehole.
100% not talking about anyone at my work. But "I heard a story" about two senior professors who had been invited to give talks over in California about some research they'd been working on. Like two kids in a sweet shop, they booked a Ferrari at the private airport near the conference.
Made it about 500 yards down the road before speeding up, losing control, driving into a ditch and costing '100% not my workplace' a few hundred grand in costs.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
Actually on our visits to Australia and New Zealand the immigration were very diligent over food and sniffer dogs were employed widely
Indeed one such dog discovered a banana in a lady's bag by us and all hell let lose
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
It was a joke. This is why Leon's dislike of smileys is wrong.
An anecdote: I was once driving in the right-hand lane of a motorway as a convertible came screaming up behind me. It flashed its lights, and I waited for a gap to pull into the middle lane, and looked over my shoulder as the car came screaming past. I expected to see some small-dicked, middle-aged w@nker. Instead, I saw two older ladies with their hair tied up and wrapped, smiling broadly.
I couldn't help but smile as well.
Many years ago, one very frail and elderly lady of my acquaintance confided to me that she loved being driven by her grandson. Oh, really? "Yes," she said, with an almost manic twinkle in her eyes, "I love speed!"
It was clear that she really did love speed.
Good evening, everyone.
I like Jasper Carrott's story of the little old lady driver - Never had an accident but witnessed lots of them
Didn't he call his wife to warn her about a report of someone driving the wrong way on the motorway, to be told, "It's not just one. There are dozens of them."
I only recently discovered that the receptionist character 'Dawn' in "The Office" was played by Jasper Carrotts daughter - Lucy Davis.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
Actually on our visits to Australia and New Zealand the immigration were very diligent over food and sniffer dogs were employed widely
Indeed one such dog discovered a banana in a lady's bag by us and all hell let lose
I got stopped and interrogated when the customs officer realised I came from a sheepfarming area. He demanded to see my footwear. But I'd scrubbed my walking boots, and Mrs C's too, totally clean in advance.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
Actually on our visits to Australia and New Zealand the immigration were very diligent over food and sniffer dogs were employed widely
Indeed one such dog discovered a banana in a lady's bag by us and all hell let lose
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
@Carnyx is absolutely correct. They are absolutely paranoid about food imports and rightly so because of previous disasters with imported pests (accidentally or deliberately). Just look at what they do to landed planes and they also are very intolerant of people bringing in food.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
Actually on our visits to Australia and New Zealand the immigration were very diligent over food and sniffer dogs were employed widely
Indeed one such dog discovered a banana in a lady's bag by us and all hell let lose
Neither is remotely a factor in whether it's viable for farmers to export more to Australasia, which apparently they are already doing.
Doesn't change the basic fact that the security and reliability of UK food imports has been seriously endangered; ditto farmers' export trade, such as it is.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
@Carnyx is absolutely correct. They are absolutely paranoid about food imports and rightly so because of previous disasters with imported pests (accidentally or deliberately). Just look at what they do to landed planes and they also are very intolerant of people bringing in food.
Dear God in heaven. I KNOW that the Australians have strict biosecurity measures - I've heard they're not even able to buy wooden coasters whilst on holiday. But it is little more than chaff in this discussion because it IS absolutely viable to export food there, it has been made easier by the UK/Australia trade deal, and exports are (from a very low base) rising.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
No: just stating a fact. They're not stupid.
What was the fact?
Expecting farmers' trade to survive a change from open market over 35km of sea to a restricted market on the other side of the world.
The combination of disregard of food security and damage to the food and farming industry is really worrying.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
@Carnyx is absolutely correct. They are absolutely paranoid about food imports and rightly so because of previous disasters with imported pests (accidentally or deliberately). Just look at what they do to landed planes and they also are very intolerant of people bringing in food.
Dear God in heaven. I KNOW that the Australians have strict biosecurity measures - I've heard they're not even able to buy wooden coasters whilst on holiday. But it is little more than chaff in this discussion because it IS absolutely viable to export food there, it has been made easier by the UK/Australia trade deal, and exports are (from a very low base) rising.
Who gives a shit about small exports when a major export market has been seriously damaged? Bleating on about small exports doesn't cut the cheese (so to speak).
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
@Carnyx is absolutely correct. They are absolutely paranoid about food imports and rightly so because of previous disasters with imported pests (accidentally or deliberately). Just look at what they do to landed planes and they also are very intolerant of people bringing in food.
Dear God in heaven. I KNOW that the Australians have strict biosecurity measures - I've heard they're not even able to buy wooden coasters whilst on holiday. But it is little more than chaff in this discussion because it IS absolutely viable to export food there, it has been made easier by the UK/Australia trade deal, and exports are (from a very low base) rising.
Well then why did you call what @Carnyx said was tripe to a post where that was all he said. He literally said nothing else in that post and you called it tripe. Now you are agreeing with it. Bizarre.
Does it not cross your mind why several posted exactly the same thing in reply to your incorrect statement that @Carnyx posted tripe or do you think we are all idiots.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
Actually on our visits to Australia and New Zealand the immigration were very diligent over food and sniffer dogs were employed widely
Indeed one such dog discovered a banana in a lady's bag by us and all hell let lose
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
No: just stating a fact. They're not stupid.
What was the fact?
Expecting farmers' trade to survive a change from open market over 35km of sea to a restricted market on the other side of the world.
The combination of disregard of food security and damage to the food and farming industry is really worrying.
We have a bigger population in the UK and a bigger economy than Australia and NZ combined and we still have a trade deal with the EU anyway, we have just added trade deals with Australia and NZ.
The reality is you are just an EU diehard who wants to have unrestricted free trade with the EU and free movement of people and workers with the EU but it seems would be fine with 100% tariffs on all trade with non EU/EEA nations and no immigrants from outside the EU/EEA either
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
No: just stating a fact. They're not stupid.
What was the fact?
Expecting farmers' trade to survive a change from open market over 35km of sea to a restricted market on the other side of the world.
The combination of disregard of food security and damage to the food and farming industry is really worrying.
So it wasn't a fact at all, it was an ill-informed rant.
It isn't a restricted market for most food exporters, so that's totally irrelevant. And the 'uuge distances involved didn't trouble you when (as I mentioned) you prophesied a flood of Australasian meat putting our farms out of business.
You flagrantly take opposing sides of the same argument in your Gollum-like insistence that EU-membership is the only path to prosperity.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
Indeed that title of bound to be arseholes is reserved for BMW drivers.
Arsehole drivers according to me:
(1) BMW (2) Ferrari (3) Tesla Cybertruck
Also, people who drive Nissan Leaf's on the motorway and who can't get their speed up above about 60mph.
And the guy who opened his door into the side of my Rivian, saw he'd damaged it, and then drove off without leaving a note. He's a total arsehole.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
Son's Aussie fiancee staying here for Christmas surprised me by saying they ate British potatoes when they visited Sydney back in September so we are doing some exporting of veg.
Solid white lines in the middle of the road don't apply if you are driving a Ferrari.
Either that, or the person who overtook me was a bit of an arsehole.
I find there is a 1 to 1 correlation between driving a Ferrari and being a bit of an arsehole...
Hmm. You might need to expand your circle of Ferrari driving acquaintances. Seems a bit like an envy thing maybe. Loads of genuinely lovely, generous, considerate and caring people drive Ferraris, they just happen to like driving Ferraris occasionally and can.
You've gone OTT in response to an OTT. Ferrari drivers aren't bound to be arseholes but there's a pretty good chance.
Indeed that title of bound to be arseholes is reserved for BMW drivers.
Arsehole drivers according to me:
(1) BMW (2) Ferrari (3) Tesla Cybertruck
Also, people who drive Nissan Leaf's on the motorway and who can't get their speed up above about 60mph.
And the guy who opened his door into the side of my Rivian, saw he'd damaged it, and then drove off without leaving a note. He's a total arsehole.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
No: just stating a fact. They're not stupid.
What was the fact?
Expecting farmers' trade to survive a change from open market over 35km of sea to a restricted market on the other side of the world.
The combination of disregard of food security and damage to the food and farming industry is really worrying.
So it wasn't a fact at all, it was an ill-informed rant.
It isn't a restricted market for most food exporters, so that's totally irrelevant. And the 'uuge distances involved didn't trouble you when (as I mentioned) you prophesied a flood of Australasian meat putting our farms out of business.
You flagrantly take opposing sides of the same argument in your Gollum-like insistence that EU-membership is the only path to prosperity.
His fact was very specifically the restrictions on bio-imports to Australia which you said was tripe which is why so many challenged you because it isn't. Then you changed tune and agreed with it. Now you are saying it isn't a fact again. Either you can't make your mind up or have missed the point being made. I presume the latter. Why do you think so many picked you up on it?
On the wider topic the idea that exports from the UK to Australia had anything like the relevance to exports to the EU bizarre. We gain a very little and lose a lot.
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
England has more distilleries than Scotland. While most of them are Gin distilleries, there are a number of fantastic English whiskey distilleries (White Peak, Cotswolds and St Georges to name 3)
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
No: just stating a fact. They're not stupid.
What was the fact?
Expecting farmers' trade to survive a change from open market over 35km of sea to a restricted market on the other side of the world.
The combination of disregard of food security and damage to the food and farming industry is really worrying.
So it wasn't a fact at all, it was an ill-informed rant.
It isn't a restricted market for most food exporters, so that's totally irrelevant. And the 'uuge distances involved didn't trouble you when (as I mentioned) you prophesied a flood of Australasian meat putting our farms out of business.
You flagrantly take opposing sides of the same argument in your Gollum-like insistence that EU-membership is the only path to prosperity.
His fact was very specifically the restrictions on bio-imports to Australia which you said was tripe which is why so many challenged you because it isn't. Then you changed tune and agreed with it. Now you are saying it isn't a fact again. Either you can't make your mind up or have missed the point being made.
On the wider topic the idea that exports from the UK to Australia had anything like the relevance to exports to the EU bizarre. We gain a very little and lose a lot.
Whilst I support Brexit (former remainer) you are correct in your last paragraph
We had someone yesterday claiming that stopping UK farmers from exporting to the EU and getting in cheap labour from the EU was great. Because they could send their meat and two veg to Australasia instead.
I wonder what he'd have said if Musk City had been started on Mars.
Your post indicates you find selling food to Australia and NZ unlikely - so why the danger of a flood of Australian beef and New Zealand lamb to our plucky farmers? If food can be imported from there, it can also be exported to there.
I'm struggling with the logic there. You import things you don't have, have a shortage in or which is cheaper elsewhere. You export for the reverse reasons. You don't export what you don't have or have a shortage in or which is more expensive than the importer can produce it for. So the logic of if we can import something from someone we can also export it to them is odd. Although will happen a little, particularly if we/they add value, but generally we won't export much lamb to New Zealand. It is 'Coals to Newcastle' scenario. It will happen and kudos if you achieve it, but it isn't normal.
There is plenty of Welsh Lamb and British Beef here too though on that logic but not much Salmon or Whisky or Pheasant in Australia and NZ but more than enough of that here for export
In that case we are going to be b****red after the next Scottish Indy Ref.
In any case, the Aussies are exteemely fussy about importing fresh foods. Major biohazards to their agricultures and ecosystems.
You really will come out with any desperate old tripe to defend your position won't you? The trade deal is reciprocal. It is absolutely possible for our food exporters to take advantage of the trade deal to sell more food to Australasia, mocking the idea is risible from someone also raising the spectre of a flood of Australian and NZ food imports. Yes, Australia and New Zealand might be better at exporting their foods than we are - that would result in a trade deficit in food - exactly what we had (and still have afaik) with the EU. That has nothing to do with your asinine mockery of the idea of 'sending their meat and two veg to Australasia'.
No: just stating a fact. They're not stupid.
What was the fact?
Expecting farmers' trade to survive a change from open market over 35km of sea to a restricted market on the other side of the world.
The combination of disregard of food security and damage to the food and farming industry is really worrying.
So it wasn't a fact at all, it was an ill-informed rant.
It isn't a restricted market for most food exporters, so that's totally irrelevant. And the 'uuge distances involved didn't trouble you when (as I mentioned) you prophesied a flood of Australasian meat putting our farms out of business.
You flagrantly take opposing sides of the same argument in your Gollum-like insistence that EU-membership is the only path to prosperity.
His fact was very specifically the restrictions on bio-imports to Australia which you said was tripe which is why so many challenged you because it isn't. Then you changed tune and agreed with it. Now you are saying it isn't a fact again. Either you can't make your mind up or have missed the point being made. I presume the latter. Why do you think so many picked you up on it?
On the wider topic the idea that exports from the UK to Australia had anything like the relevance to exports to the EU bizarre. We gain a very little and lose a lot.
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14 goals (so far) in the three festive Christmas games. Incredible!
Out of probably just over 40 people I know who have Ferraris, I would say three are utter cnts, another three are a bit dickish and the rest are just people who made a lot of money and love cars and some thrill they get with their choice of car.
I really do think the vast majority of people who profess that the vast majority of Ferrari drivers are problematic don’t really know any Ferrari owners, or just one who might be like the Harry Enfield Brummie or a wannabe footballer.
It’s like people from outside certain neighbourhoods of London judging the inhabitants badly without actually knowing anyone who lives there or frankly ever being there.
I always had you down as a calm, evidence and experience type of chap rather than curmudgeonly and judgy. I’m disappointed Kinabalu.
Aside from being a bit dickish to drive Frerraris along Devon lanes, he has seemed a nice enough bloke when I have met him. He has offered to play for free at the Dart Musivc Festival (which we had to decline because we couldn't cope with the extra people coming into the town).
An anecdote: I was once driving in the right-hand lane of a motorway as a convertible came screaming up behind me. It flashed its lights, and I waited for a gap to pull into the middle lane, and looked over my shoulder as the car came screaming past. I expected to see some small-dicked, middle-aged w@nker. Instead, I saw two older ladies with their hair tied up and wrapped, smiling broadly.
I couldn't help but smile as well.
No other player has ever done that in a full 38 game season!
(1) BMW
(2) Ferrari
(3) Tesla Cybertruck
Also, people who drive Nissan Leaf's on the motorway and who can't get their speed up above about 60mph.
And the guy who opened his door into the side of my Rivian, saw he'd damaged it, and then drove off without leaving a note. He's a total arsehole.
A few years back, my wife made a documentary about Ferrari in the 50's (Ferrari - Race to Immortality) - 90% with critics on Rotten Tomatoes. She had a screening in highly secure garaging in north London, surrounded by dozens of Ferraris. These included Ascari's F1 championship winning car from 1952. Untold millions by value. But the owners were invariably cheery blokes (all blokes, admittedly).
Pleased I sold my BMW last January and bought a smaller Mercedes then !!!!
It was clear that she really did love speed.
Good evening, everyone.
I was lucky enough to be at Brands Hatch the day they had two 1950's F1 Ferraris being filmed. These days, Brands Hatch has a noise limit of 100 decibels. These cars ran at 120 plus. Somehow, my wife managed to blag three laps at full racing speed (and sound). They screamed round.
She then got a text from the Control Tower. Fearing the worst, she hesitantly peered at it.
It read "That was utterly awesome!!!!"
(I also got taken on a lap in the Safety Car. Which was great. Even if it was a BMW...)
Also the only time I've had a swan egg. Another unfortunate accident, apparently.
Made it about 500 yards down the road before speeding up, losing control, driving into a ditch and costing '100% not my workplace' a few hundred grand in costs.
Indeed one such dog discovered a banana in a lady's bag by us and all hell let lose
@Carnyx is correct
Neither is remotely a factor in whether it's viable for farmers to export more to Australasia, which apparently they are already doing.
The combination of disregard of food security and damage to the food and farming industry is really worrying.
Does it not cross your mind why several posted exactly the same thing in reply to your incorrect statement that @Carnyx posted tripe or do you think we are all idiots.
Dogs everywhere sniffing out fruit.
The reality is you are just an EU diehard who wants to have unrestricted free trade with the EU and free movement of people and workers with the EU but it seems would be fine with 100% tariffs on all trade with non EU/EEA nations and no immigrants from outside the EU/EEA either
It isn't a restricted market for most food exporters, so that's totally irrelevant. And the 'uuge distances involved didn't trouble you when (as I mentioned) you prophesied a flood of Australasian meat putting our farms out of business.
You flagrantly take opposing sides of the same argument in your Gollum-like insistence that EU-membership is the only path to prosperity.
followed by DJT....
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Biden (b 1942)
Trump (b June 1946)
Bush 2 (b July 1946)
Clinton (b August 1942)
Obama (b 1961)
On the wider topic the idea that exports from the UK to Australia had anything like the relevance to exports to the EU bizarre. We gain a very little and lose a lot.
He lived to see a lot.
Interesting fact (from X):
he’s the only POTUS to serve a full term & never appointed a SCOTUS Justice.
So you do write Trump's "speeches". Although that one needs some work, it is far too polite.
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