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Surely 2015 is the best possible time for targeting LD seats? Their support may recover in the new parliament.Sean_F said:
In the end, I think Clegg will defeat Labour pretty clearly (10%+) in Sheffield Hallam. Labour are wasting resources by campaigning hard in that seat.TheScreamingEagles said:
I changed it to Ilford North.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No! I'm based in Ilford North!! Ilford South has been a Labour stronghold for decades!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll vote Tory in Sheffield Hallam if you vote Tory in Ilford South.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You're gonna vote for this guy??TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Deal?
You did notice that I changed the colour of my avatar to "normal" a number of weeks ago?
I did. So you're voting Tory?
Huzzah.0 -
Morris's view isn't supported by the polls, which repeatedly show current Tory, Labour and UKIP voters very sure how they'll vote (typically round 60% now) but current LibDems and Green very doubtful. Certainly my impression on the doorstep, though UKIP vote feels a bit softer now.TheScreamingEagles said:
In 2010 only 47% of voters had decided the way they were going to vote before the election campaign beganMorris_Dancer said:There was an interesting comment on the Sky paper review to the effect that lots of people make up their minds pretty early and don't sway from that.
I think those saying they'll vote Conservative or Lib Dem are unlikely to change, but those saying Labour or UKIP might be more likely to do so. I suspect the SNP will do as well as predicted by the polls. I don't think that tide will recede this side of the election.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/10/07/in-2010-only-47-of-voters-had-decided-the-way-they-were-going-to-vote-before-the-election-campaign-began/0 -
No Populus yet...strange as I completed a VI poll yesterday (though it contained other questions so may have been for a private client).0
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Victor Chandler are betting on "Will Ed Miliband step down as Labour Leader in 2015?"
6/4 Yes
I think this could be a marginal bet as
(a) He could lose in May and would surely step down (90/10?)
(b) He could be PM of an unstable govt which might lead to another election in October
any views?0 -
Ed Miliband is evens with Ladbrokes to be Prime Minister at the 2015 Queen's Speech. If he's not, he's out unless it looks like another election is imminent - 90/10 looks right to me.isam said:Victor Chandler are betting on "Will Ed Miliband step down as Labour Leader in 2015?"
6/4 Yes
I think this could be a marginal bet as
(a) He could lose in May and would surely step down (90/10?)
(b) He could be PM of an unstable govt which might lead to another election in October
any views?
So that's almost an arb and a middle if you can get on with both. Victor Chandler, however, do not want my business.0 -
Same here.If I try and bid up the odds using VC I have heard them described as "decoration" or worse "for illustrative purposes only".antifrank said:
Ed Miliband is evens with Ladbrokes to be Prime Minister at the 2015 Queen's Speech. If he's not, he's out unless it looks like another election is imminent - 90/10 looks right to me.isam said:Victor Chandler are betting on "Will Ed Miliband step down as Labour Leader in 2015?"
6/4 Yes
I think this could be a marginal bet as
(a) He could lose in May and would surely step down (90/10?)
(b) He could be PM of an unstable govt which might lead to another election in October
any views?
So that's almost an arb and a middle if you can get on with both. Victor Chandler, however, do not want my business.
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The party with the smallest % of female MPs?TheScreamingEagles said:A Liberal Democrat Councillor has quit the party after suggesting an alleged rape victim wasn't attractive enough to be targeted.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/05/east-hampstead-council-philip-drury_n_6415656.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
Why is there such a misogynistic streak in the Lib Dems?
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Well, Ed is what gives a Jedi his power. He's an energy field created by all living things. He surrounds us and penetrates us; he binds the galaxy together.isam said:Victor Chandler are betting on "Will Ed Miliband step down as Labour Leader in 2015?"
6/4 Yes
I think this could be a marginal bet as
(a) He could lose in May and would surely step down (90/10?)
(b) He could be PM of an unstable govt which might lead to another election in October
any views?0 -
Yes I was thinking just that re the middle/arb but my computer froze and couldn't post...antifrank said:
Ed Miliband is evens with Ladbrokes to be Prime Minister at the 2015 Queen's Speech. If he's not, he's out unless it looks like another election is imminent - 90/10 looks right to me.isam said:Victor Chandler are betting on "Will Ed Miliband step down as Labour Leader in 2015?"
6/4 Yes
I think this could be a marginal bet as
(a) He could lose in May and would surely step down (90/10?)
(b) He could be PM of an unstable govt which might lead to another election in October
any views?
So that's almost an arb and a middle if you can get on with both. Victor Chandler, however, do not want my business.
I cant get on any of these bets we talk about really, only if I can get to a shop, but like to work it out...
There is a Victor Shop in Mayfair that takes reasonable bets though.
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In fairness, they are reputedly very "hands on" when it comes to selection....TCPoliticalBetting said:
The party with the smallest % of female MPs?TheScreamingEagles said:A Liberal Democrat Councillor has quit the party after suggesting an alleged rape victim wasn't attractive enough to be targeted.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/05/east-hampstead-council-philip-drury_n_6415656.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
Why is there such a misogynistic streak in the Lib Dems?0 -
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I like to give a stuff about NI, even though I've never been there! http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/images/maps/map12.htmTheScreamingEagles said:
Sadly, no one gives a stuff about Northern Ireland, but there are some fascinating races, I'd love to see polling on, for a betting perspective.SandyRentool said:
Plus some Wales-only polls too, and what about Northern Ireland? Definitely going to be a polling fest for us lot to chew over.TheScreamingEagles said:
I worked this out last month.AndyJS said:
How many polls do you think we might get in total between now and polling day?Sunil_Prasannan said:GB opinion polls... must... have... GB opinion polls...
I reckon we're going to have around 200 GB wide polls between now and election day.
Then add in Scotland only and marginal polls
Can the DUP take back East Belfast and can Sinn Fein hold on to Fermanagh and South Tyrone, which they hold by just four votes.
[Sunil puts on his best Gerry Adams voice:] "The Brits partitioned MY country too, you know!"
There seems to be only a handful of NI polls on the Wikipedia list of Opinion polls for 2015.
Fermanagh & South Tyrone should be an SF hold if the DUP and UUP field separate candidates, like they did in 2005. Or maybe SDLP could give SF a clear run (as SF gave the SDLP a clear run in Belfast South in 2010, enabling them to take advantage of a split Unionist vote).0 -
There are laws against harassment!!TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I have you email address and your mobile phone number.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ah, I did see your editTheScreamingEagles said:
I changed it to Ilford North.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No! I'm based in Ilford North!! Ilford South has been a Labour stronghold for decades!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll vote Tory in Sheffield Hallam if you vote Tory in Ilford South.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You're gonna vote for this guy??TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Deal?
You did notice that I changed the colour of my avatar to "normal" a number of weeks ago?
I did. So you're voting Tory?
Huzzah.
I'm really not sure at this stage, but I haven't ruled it out!
I'll love bomb you every day until you decide to vote Tory.0 -
Well, Day 1 of the campaign and it's already pretty dirty.
Jeez, do we really have another 4 months of this?0 -
Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam indicate the sort of head of steam is building up across the party spectrum to remove Clegg as developed by Galloway in Bradford.The Tory voters think he is evil mendacity personified as well as the Labour voters.There is total toxicity from associating with these mendacious men of many faces and an anti-Clegg vote which is an anti LibDem vote with a bit of personal.The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.0
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Re the US oil exports, it's largely irrelevent, as the US still consumes about 6m more barrels per day than it extracts (16m vs 10m).taffys said:Incidentally I didn't know America had banned exports of oil for many years until last week
Yep.
I was looking at all the cabs and business vans on my way into work in central London today.
They are getting a 15% reduction in their main overhead, and rising.0 -
Wasn't the rumour last time that Hague resigned to make way for Osborne to move to the Foreign Office but then some crisis or other emerged?TheScreamingEagles said:
I did suggest replacing Osborne with Ken Clarke.Alanbrooke said:
actually not at all.TheScreamingEagles said:
So your criticism of Dave is he didn't go down the easy PR route, but did the right thing, in terms of boosting the economy and raising tax revenues, as cutting the 50p tax rate has increased tax revenues.Alanbrooke said:
hmmmTheScreamingEagles said:
Unfortunately the current Tory party does appear to be obsessed with the gays and Europe.Alanbrooke said:
so since self evidently the voters don't think we have one or Cameron would be romping home, where's it going to come from ?TheScreamingEagles said:That polling confirms that Scrapheap's and mine's Dry but not obsessed with the gays and the EU Tory Party would win a landslide.
Personally I'd just settle for a vaguely competent one.
Dave's greatest strategic blunder was to try and appease the UKIP fifth columnists.
not quite sure that's true Mr Eagles.
Mr Cameron's faux pas have more to do with ignoring the bread and butter issues. If you're a gay banker in London this is a great government, unfortunately there are enough of them to win an election.
If Cameron had had his detox by keeping the 50p tax reduction til the next parlt and kicked the crap out of some of the banks he'd be in much better shape. He'd have detoxed on the side of ordinary people rather than his own social circle.
The criticism is if he'd have held the "we're all in this together" line he'd be heading for a majority and the need to raise more taxes would in the medium term decline as a fically sensible government ( assuming he'd sacked Osborne ) would be less of an onus on the rest of us.
Tory Majority nailed on.0 -
Any chance that the reports you are hearing are somewhat, I dunno, biased?volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam.... The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
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I think the SNP surge is about to get a New Year boost as the Westminster negative campaigning kicks in. The majority of people joining the SNP are motivated, working, new to political activism, aged 25 to 55 and from a range of socio-economic backgrounds. Therefore, I think the media portrayal of the SNP surge as being driven by blind faith cyber-Nats and benefit junkies is way off the mark. Interestingly, the surge is being lead by women, who now make up 44% of the SNP membership, pre-surge it was 33%.TheScreamingEagles said:
I can't see anything that Labour have left in the locker to stop the SNP surge.Richard_Nabavi said:
Thanks. I think I'm going to keep my SNP Buy on SPIN open for now at least - it may well have further to go.TheScreamingEagles said:
Towards the end of this month/start of next month.Richard_Nabavi said:Do we know when the famous Ashcroft Scotland poll is going to appear?
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Authoritarian Ukip deny free speech and seek books banned.not burned yet.Libertarians my arse.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johns4ec0c9667/ukip-supporters-are-trying-to-get-a-completely-bla-18gnz0 -
Asking for £40 on this, and accepted.isam said:Victor Chandler are betting on "Will Ed Miliband step down as Labour Leader in 2015?"
6/4 Yes
I think this could be a marginal bet as
(a) He could lose in May and would surely step down (90/10?)
(b) He could be PM of an unstable govt which might lead to another election in October
any views?
Now on ALL the (English) party leaders to step down in 2015.0 -
Lolz.volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam indicate the sort of head of steam is building up across the party spectrum to remove Clegg as developed by Galloway in Bradford.The Tory voters think he is evil mendacity personified as well as the Labour voters.There is total toxicity from associating with these mendacious men of many faces and an anti-Clegg vote which is an anti LibDem vote with a bit of personal.The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
So much AstroTurf there we could play a football match.
My sources who accurately forecast the Police Commisioner by election can't stop laughing at Clegg losing his deposit.0 -
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UKIP will ban Depeche Mode because they sound foreign and foreigners cause traffic delays.Sunil_Prasannan said:
There are laws against harassment!!TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I have you email address and your mobile phone number.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ah, I did see your editTheScreamingEagles said:
I changed it to Ilford North.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No! I'm based in Ilford North!! Ilford South has been a Labour stronghold for decades!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll vote Tory in Sheffield Hallam if you vote Tory in Ilford South.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You're gonna vote for this guy??TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Deal?
You did notice that I changed the colour of my avatar to "normal" a number of weeks ago?
I did. So you're voting Tory?
Huzzah.
I'm really not sure at this stage, but I haven't ruled it out!
I'll love bomb you every day until you decide to vote Tory.
Vote Tory.0 -
Michael Heaver @Michael_Heaver · 4m4 minutes ago
Delighted to announce that Eastern Regional Chairman @GeorgeKonUKIP will be contesting Basildon and Billericay for UKIP.
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There must be a lot of money to be paid, betting against someone who thinks Clegg will lose his deposit.Neil said:
Any chance that the reports you are hearing are somewhat, I dunno, biased?volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam.... The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
I think the outcome will be something like Lib Dem 40%, Lab 30%, Con 15%, others 15%.
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Unfortunately none of the Clegg will lose mob bet. That's why he's 1/3 to hold his seat.Sean_F said:
There must be a lot of money to be paid, betting against someone who thinks Clegg will lose his deposit.Neil said:
Any chance that the reports you are hearing are somewhat, I dunno, biased?volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam.... The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
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Well for starters it isn't UKIP asking for it to be banned is it? It is some people on amazon who aren't UKIP.. why would you bother lying?volcanopete said:Authoritarian Ukip deny free speech and seek books banned.not burned yet.Libertarians my arse.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johns4ec0c9667/ukip-supporters-are-trying-to-get-a-completely-bla-18gnz
Secondly it is quite a good gag and people who buy it should laugh it off0 -
If I bet on the basis of what I wanted to happen I would be a very poor man indeed.Sean_F said:
There must be a lot of money to be paid, betting against someone who thinks Clegg will lose his deposit.Neil said:
Any chance that the reports you are hearing are somewhat, I dunno, biased?volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam.... The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
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TheScreamingEagles said:
Lolz.volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam indicate the sort of head of steam is building up across the party spectrum to remove Clegg as developed by Galloway in Bradford.The Tory voters think he is evil mendacity personified as well as the Labour voters.There is total toxicity from associating with these mendacious men of many faces and an anti-Clegg vote which is an anti LibDem vote with a bit of personal.The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
So much AstroTurf there we could play a football match.
My sources who accurately forecast the Police Commisioner by election can't stop laughing at Clegg losing his deposit.
Astroturfing on both sides both for and against Clegg. He isn't 10% ahead, and there is zero chance of him losing his deposit.Sean_F said:
In the end, I think Clegg will defeat Labour pretty clearly (10%+) in Sheffield Hallam. Labour are wasting resources by campaigning hard in that seat.TheScreamingEagles said:
I changed it to Ilford North.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No! I'm based in Ilford North!! Ilford South has been a Labour stronghold for decades!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll vote Tory in Sheffield Hallam if you vote Tory in Ilford South.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You're gonna vote for this guy??TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Deal?
You did notice that I changed the colour of my avatar to "normal" a number of weeks ago?
I did. So you're voting Tory?
Huzzah.
3% ahead on the constituency specific question.
LISTEN TO THE GOOD LORD YOU LOT.0 -
Not John Baron, then?isam said:Michael Heaver @Michael_Heaver · 4m4 minutes ago
Delighted to announce that Eastern Regional Chairman @GeorgeKonUKIP will be contesting Basildon and Billericay for UKIP.
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I see that LA isn't polling tonight but is Yougov back to normal ?0
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Nah - Cons need Clegg to ensure the nailed on scenario of 5 more years of Con-Lib coalition.volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam indicate the sort of head of steam is building up across the party spectrum to remove Clegg as developed by Galloway in Bradford.The Tory voters think he is evil mendacity personified as well as the Labour voters.There is total toxicity from associating with these mendacious men of many faces and an anti-Clegg vote which is an anti LibDem vote with a bit of personal.The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
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Well I took part in a YouGov last night.TGOHF said:I see that LA isn't polling tonight but is Yougov back to normal ?
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I was hoping for Roger LordSean_F said:
Not John Baron, then?isam said:Michael Heaver @Michael_Heaver · 4m4 minutes ago
Delighted to announce that Eastern Regional Chairman @GeorgeKonUKIP will be contesting Basildon and Billericay for UKIP.0 -
@tnewtondunn: Balls says Osborne's dossier is "based on false assumptions". That's why it's clever - Labour must now say what they won't do, line by line.0
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Look on the bright side - at least its not as long as SIndyRef......audreyanne said:Well, Day 1 of the campaign and it's already pretty dirty.
Jeez, do we really have another 4 months of this?
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I don't think the Conservatives will poll as well as 19%, or UKIP as well as 11% in this seat. Clegg will pick up centre-right tactical voters who wish to keep out Labour.Pulpstar said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Lolz.volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam indicate the sort of head of steam is building up across the party spectrum to remove Clegg as developed by Galloway in Bradford.The Tory voters think he is evil mendacity personified as well as the Labour voters.There is total toxicity from associating with these mendacious men of many faces and an anti-Clegg vote which is an anti LibDem vote with a bit of personal.The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
So much AstroTurf there we could play a football match.
My sources who accurately forecast the Police Commisioner by election can't stop laughing at Clegg losing his deposit.
Astroturfing on both sides both for and against Clegg. He isn't 10% ahead, and there is zero chance of him losing his deposit.Sean_F said:
In the end, I think Clegg will defeat Labour pretty clearly (10%+) in Sheffield Hallam. Labour are wasting resources by campaigning hard in that seat.TheScreamingEagles said:
I changed it to Ilford North.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No! I'm based in Ilford North!! Ilford South has been a Labour stronghold for decades!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll vote Tory in Sheffield Hallam if you vote Tory in Ilford South.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You're gonna vote for this guy??TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Deal?
You did notice that I changed the colour of my avatar to "normal" a number of weeks ago?
I did. So you're voting Tory?
Huzzah.
3% ahead on the constituency specific question.
LISTEN TO THE GOOD LORD YOU LOT.
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Sean_F said:
Not John Baron, then?isam said:Michael Heaver @Michael_Heaver · 4m4 minutes ago
Delighted to announce that Eastern Regional Chairman @GeorgeKonUKIP will be contesting Basildon and Billericay for UKIP.
Would've been great if it was this John Bar(r)on.. one of my fav charactersSean_F said:
Not John Baron, then?isam said:Michael Heaver @Michael_Heaver · 4m4 minutes ago
Delighted to announce that Eastern Regional Chairman @GeorgeKonUKIP will be contesting Basildon and Billericay for UKIP.
"I didn't get where I am today by being the PPC for Bas & Bill against another man called John Baron"
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What *another* leading Green figure that you don't rate? (I was keener on the London Mayoral candidate than you were.) You're so hard to please...Neil said:
I'm afraid that Natalie Bennett seems very safe for another 21 months or so. Oh, not ALL the leadersPulpstar said:
Now on ALL the (English) party leaders to step down in 2015.
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Big Kipper surge then .....TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I took part in a YouGov last night.TGOHF said:I see that LA isn't polling tonight but is Yougov back to normal ?
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Will there be "secret Canadians" ?CarlottaVance said:
Look on the bright side - at least its not as long as SIndyRef......audreyanne said:Well, Day 1 of the campaign and it's already pretty dirty.
Jeez, do we really have another 4 months of this?0 -
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Holyrood will be given powers to allow 16 and 17-year-olds to vote before May's election, says Alistair Carmichael http://bit.ly/1IfXJnL0 -
Box set bonanza over Xmas. The Wire was brilliant from fast to last - stunning acting, superb plot-lines, brilliant character development and just all-round compelling. On the other hand, Downton Abbey very, very Meh. I had expected a masterpiece based on the write-ups. But what I got was a very predictable, straight down the line period drama. Nothing on Remains of the Day or Gosford Park. Broadchurch is next.0
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But Depeche Mode are from Basildon!TheScreamingEagles said:
UKIP will ban Depeche Mode because they sound foreign and foreigners cause traffic delays.Sunil_Prasannan said:
There are laws against harassment!!TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I have you email address and your mobile phone number.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ah, I did see your editTheScreamingEagles said:
I changed it to Ilford North.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No! I'm based in Ilford North!! Ilford South has been a Labour stronghold for decades!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll vote Tory in Sheffield Hallam if you vote Tory in Ilford South.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You're gonna vote for this guy??TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Deal?
You did notice that I changed the colour of my avatar to "normal" a number of weeks ago?
I did. So you're voting Tory?
Huzzah.
I'm really not sure at this stage, but I haven't ruled it out!
I'll love bomb you every day until you decide to vote Tory.
Vote Tory.0 -
Yes, it's all getting rather boring. No Roger Lord, no Neil Hamilton, and there are even dark rumours of no Winston MacKenzie.TheScreamingEagles said:I was hoping for Roger Lord
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Looks like £40 got that market pulled!Pulpstar said:
Asking for £40 on this, and accepted.isam said:Victor Chandler are betting on "Will Ed Miliband step down as Labour Leader in 2015?"
6/4 Yes
I think this could be a marginal bet as
(a) He could lose in May and would surely step down (90/10?)
(b) He could be PM of an unstable govt which might lead to another election in October
any views?
Now on ALL the (English) party leaders to step down in 2015.0 -
Arf.isam said:
Looks like £40 got that market pulled!Pulpstar said:
Asking for £40 on this, and accepted.isam said:Victor Chandler are betting on "Will Ed Miliband step down as Labour Leader in 2015?"
6/4 Yes
I think this could be a marginal bet as
(a) He could lose in May and would surely step down (90/10?)
(b) He could be PM of an unstable govt which might lead to another election in October
any views?
Now on ALL the (English) party leaders to step down in 2015.0 -
I put that down to you not being as well acquainted with her.NickPalmer said:I was keener on the London Mayoral candidate than you were.
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Plato, you have logged in as Southam Observer by mistakeSouthamObserver said:Box set bonanza over Xmas. The Wire was brilliant from fast to last - stunning acting, superb plot-lines, brilliant character development and just all-round compelling. On the other hand, Downton Abbey very, very Meh. I had expected a masterpiece based on the write-ups. But what I got was a very predictable, straight down the line period drama. Nothing on Remains of the Day or Gosford Park. Broadchurch is next.
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Haven't seen the Wire but its on the list. Whats that with OE's eh? Comment on Downton fair - its 'brain into neutral, enjoy the quips & costumes' territory...if you haven't tried them there are some superb Scandi dramas from Borgen (politics) to 'The Bridge' (Crime)SouthamObserver said:Box set bonanza over Xmas. The Wire was brilliant from fast to last - stunning acting, superb plot-lines, brilliant character development and just all-round compelling. On the other hand, Downton Abbey very, very Meh. I had expected a masterpiece based on the write-ups. But what I got was a very predictable, straight down the line period drama. Nothing on Remains of the Day or Gosford Park. Broadchurch is next.
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You can understand why no Winston Mackenzie he'll probably have defected to the DUP or The Greens by May given his track record.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, it's all getting rather boring. No Roger Lord, no Neil Hamilton, and there are even dark rumours of no Winston MacKenzie.TheScreamingEagles said:I was hoping for Roger Lord
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No! No! No!Neil said:
Any chance that the reports you are hearing are somewhat, I dunno, biased?volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam.... The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
Its all about 'GOTV' and 'You don't understand Sheffield Hallam' and 'We've heard it all before'........
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I greatly enjoyed Breaking Bad.SouthamObserver said:Box set bonanza over Xmas. The Wire was brilliant from fast to last - stunning acting, superb plot-lines, brilliant character development and just all-round compelling. On the other hand, Downton Abbey very, very Meh. I had expected a masterpiece based on the write-ups. But what I got was a very predictable, straight down the line period drama. Nothing on Remains of the Day or Gosford Park. Broadchurch is next.
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Well I've backed a fair amount of pro-Mili bets recently so nice of VC to offer a nice value one against him.0
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The Greens wouldnt have him. (I have it on good authority that he once put feelers out in that direction, I'm not kidding.)TheScreamingEagles said:
You can understand why no Winston Mackenzie he'll probably have defected to the DUP or The Greens by May given his track record.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, it's all getting rather boring. No Roger Lord, no Neil Hamilton, and there are even dark rumours of no Winston MacKenzie.TheScreamingEagles said:I was hoping for Roger Lord
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Would you take Brian Coleman?Neil said:
The Greens wouldnt have him. (I have it on good authority that he once put feelers out in that direction, I'm not kidding.)TheScreamingEagles said:
You can understand why no Winston Mackenzie he'll probably have defected to the DUP or The Greens by May given his track record.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, it's all getting rather boring. No Roger Lord, no Neil Hamilton, and there are even dark rumours of no Winston MacKenzie.TheScreamingEagles said:I was hoping for Roger Lord
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Let's look at GOTV potential in Sheffield Hallam.CarlottaVance said:
Its all about 'GOTV'Neil said:
Any chance that the reports you are hearing are somewhat, I dunno, biased?volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam.... The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
(From LA's November poll)
Recently contacted by the LDs - 49%
Recently contacted by Lab - 15%
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No Conservative candidate selected for the seat yet interestingly.Sean_F said:
I don't think the Conservatives will poll as well as 19%, or UKIP as well as 11% in this seat. Clegg will pick up centre-right tactical voters who wish to keep out Labour.Pulpstar said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Lolz.volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam indicate the sort of head of steam is building up across the party spectrum to remove Clegg as developed by Galloway in Bradford.The Tory voters think he is evil mendacity personified as well as the Labour voters.There is total toxicity from associating with these mendacious men of many faces and an anti-Clegg vote which is an anti LibDem vote with a bit of personal.The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
So much AstroTurf there we could play a football match.
My sources who accurately forecast the Police Commisioner by election can't stop laughing at Clegg losing his deposit.
Astroturfing on both sides both for and against Clegg. He isn't 10% ahead, and there is zero chance of him losing his deposit.Sean_F said:
In the end, I think Clegg will defeat Labour pretty clearly (10%+) in Sheffield Hallam. Labour are wasting resources by campaigning hard in that seat.TheScreamingEagles said:
I changed it to Ilford North.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No! I'm based in Ilford North!! Ilford South has been a Labour stronghold for decades!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll vote Tory in Sheffield Hallam if you vote Tory in Ilford South.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You're gonna vote for this guy??TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Deal?
You did notice that I changed the colour of my avatar to "normal" a number of weeks ago?
I did. So you're voting Tory?
Huzzah.
3% ahead on the constituency specific question.
LISTEN TO THE GOOD LORD YOU LOT.
Hmm I think the Con + UKIP vote will be around 27% - I don't think "the right" really does tactical, or if they do it is kind of priced in from last time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Central_(UK_Parliament_constituency), the Con 8% and UKIP 4% here maybe next time.0 -
Bas VegasSunil_Prasannan said:
But Depeche Mode are from Basildon!TheScreamingEagles said:
UKIP will ban Depeche Mode because they sound foreign and foreigners cause traffic delays.Sunil_Prasannan said:
There are laws against harassment!!TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I have you email address and your mobile phone number.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ah, I did see your editTheScreamingEagles said:
I changed it to Ilford North.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No! I'm based in Ilford North!! Ilford South has been a Labour stronghold for decades!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll vote Tory in Sheffield Hallam if you vote Tory in Ilford South.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You're gonna vote for this guy??TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Deal?
You did notice that I changed the colour of my avatar to "normal" a number of weeks ago?
I did. So you're voting Tory?
Huzzah.
I'm really not sure at this stage, but I haven't ruled it out!
I'll love bomb you every day until you decide to vote Tory.
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I like the think the party is more discerning than your average Arsenal centre forward.TheScreamingEagles said:
Would you take Brian Coleman?Neil said:
The Greens wouldnt have him. (I have it on good authority that he once put feelers out in that direction, I'm not kidding.)TheScreamingEagles said:
You can understand why no Winston Mackenzie he'll probably have defected to the DUP or The Greens by May given his track record.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, it's all getting rather boring. No Roger Lord, no Neil Hamilton, and there are even dark rumours of no Winston MacKenzie.TheScreamingEagles said:I was hoping for Roger Lord
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I'm sure he'll show you his Canvassing results if you ask nicely - at least 143% sure to vote Labour......Neil said:
Let's look at GOTV potential in Sheffield Hallam.CarlottaVance said:
Its all about 'GOTV'Neil said:
Any chance that the reports you are hearing are somewhat, I dunno, biased?volcanopete said:Reports from Clegg's Sheffield Hallam.... The aim should be to make him lose his deposit.
(From LA's November poll)
Recently contacted by the LDs - 49%
Recently contacted by Lab - 15%
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How can anyone vote for such a party as this?
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/lib-dem-leader-steps-down-after-comment-1-6503142?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed0 -
Could an Arsenal centre-forward honestly find Coleman attractive?Neil said:
I like the think the party is more discerning than your average Arsenal centre forward.TheScreamingEagles said:
Would you take Brian Coleman?Neil said:
The Greens wouldnt have him. (I have it on good authority that he once put feelers out in that direction, I'm not kidding.)TheScreamingEagles said:
You can understand why no Winston Mackenzie he'll probably have defected to the DUP or The Greens by May given his track record.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, it's all getting rather boring. No Roger Lord, no Neil Hamilton, and there are even dark rumours of no Winston MacKenzie.TheScreamingEagles said:I was hoping for Roger Lord
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Yes, you dont like the Lib Dems. We get it. Can we move on now?volcanopete said:How can anyone vote for such a party as this?
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/lib-dem-leader-steps-down-after-comment-1-6503142?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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How did you miss one of the greatest Brian Coleman stories ever?!Sean_F said:
Could an Arsenal centre-forward honestly find Coleman attractive?Neil said:
I like the think the party is more discerning than your average Arsenal centre forward.TheScreamingEagles said:
Would you take Brian Coleman?Neil said:
The Greens wouldnt have him. (I have it on good authority that he once put feelers out in that direction, I'm not kidding.)TheScreamingEagles said:
You can understand why no Winston Mackenzie he'll probably have defected to the DUP or The Greens by May given his track record.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, it's all getting rather boring. No Roger Lord, no Neil Hamilton, and there are even dark rumours of no Winston MacKenzie.TheScreamingEagles said:I was hoping for Roger Lord
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282239/Brian-Coleman-mayor-Barnet-claims-I-slept-Arsenal-striker.html
You may just want to read the URL as the details of the story could make you physically ill.0 -
Or for a party like this?volcanopete said:How can anyone vote for such a party as this?
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/lib-dem-leader-steps-down-after-comment-1-6503142?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211486/The-Nazi-uniform-It-just-laugh-Balls-brushes-university-prank-saying-embarrassed-photo.html0 -
And this is the party which, if elected, will implement Leveson.Scott_P said:@michaelsavage: Labour audience shout "pilluck" and "get back to London" at @BBCNormanS for saying there has been no NHS winter crisis. Ed asks for respect.
Oh dear.....
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Sadly I have imagined every Arsenal striker of the last 25 years bumping uglies with Brian Coleman.Neil said:
How did you miss one of the greatest Brian Coleman stories ever?!Sean_F said:
Could an Arsenal centre-forward honestly find Coleman attractive?Neil said:
I like the think the party is more discerning than your average Arsenal centre forward.TheScreamingEagles said:
Would you take Brian Coleman?Neil said:
The Greens wouldnt have him. (I have it on good authority that he once put feelers out in that direction, I'm not kidding.)TheScreamingEagles said:
You can understand why no Winston Mackenzie he'll probably have defected to the DUP or The Greens by May given his track record.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, it's all getting rather boring. No Roger Lord, no Neil Hamilton, and there are even dark rumours of no Winston MacKenzie.TheScreamingEagles said:I was hoping for Roger Lord
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282239/Brian-Coleman-mayor-Barnet-claims-I-slept-Arsenal-striker.html
You may just want to read the URL as the details of the story could make you physically ill.
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"Say 'Auf Widersehen' to your Nazi Balls!"CarlottaVance said:
Or for a party like this?volcanopete said:How can anyone vote for such a party as this?
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/lib-dem-leader-steps-down-after-comment-1-6503142?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211486/The-Nazi-uniform-It-just-laugh-Balls-brushes-university-prank-saying-embarrassed-photo.html0 -
We finished watching Borgen on Christmas Eve. Excellent series. Plot spoiler alert...CarlottaVance said:
Haven't seen the Wire but its on the list. Whats that with OE's eh? Comment on Downton fair - its 'brain into neutral, enjoy the quips & costumes' territory...if you haven't tried them there are some superb Scandi dramas from Borgen (politics) to 'The Bridge' (Crime)SouthamObserver said:Box set bonanza over Xmas. The Wire was brilliant from fast to last - stunning acting, superb plot-lines, brilliant character development and just all-round compelling. On the other hand, Downton Abbey very, very Meh. I had expected a masterpiece based on the write-ups. But what I got was a very predictable, straight down the line period drama. Nothing on Remains of the Day or Gosford Park. Broadchurch is next.
...But I was a bit miffed that she turned into Nick Clegg in the final episode!0 -
One for Antifrank.
Neil Adams has quit as Norwich boss.0 -
Just to be clear this is not for voting in the 2015 GE. It is for the 2016 Holyrood.fitalass said:Twitter
Scotsman @TheScotsman 1m1 minute ago
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AudreyAnne is Janan Ganesh and I claim my £5!
@JananGanesh 3m3 minutes ago
The country is nowhere near focused on this election yet. Another month at least.0 -
Ed asks for respect
(surely, Respek...??? Editor).0 -
Respect - for what?taffys said:Ed asks for respect
(surely, Respek...??? Editor).
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'A Cost Analysis of Labour Party Policy':
http://tinyurl.com/pvhmb4o
You know, the one that is a complete disgrace, unless its the one Labour did of the Tories plans in 2010.......0 -
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Should I buy it:Sunil_Prasannan said:
"Say 'Auf Widersehen' to your Nazi Balls!"CarlottaVance said:
Or for a party like this?volcanopete said:How can anyone vote for such a party as this?
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/lib-dem-leader-steps-down-after-comment-1-6503142?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211486/The-Nazi-uniform-It-just-laugh-Balls-brushes-university-prank-saying-embarrassed-photo.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Frauleins-in-Uniform-DVD-2012-Elisabeth-Felchner-Karin-Heske-1973-WWII-Nazi-/111565908515?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item19f9d8aa23
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LBC @LBC 7m7 minutes ago
Speaking to @ShelaghFogarty Sir Ming Campbell predicts that the upcoming election "is going to be a dirty campaign."
Well we know it will by TSE shouting "Vote Tory!" on each post, and you can't get dirtier than that.0 -
"Alex Massie reckons its part of a plan to keep Ed off the front pages......."
Well a big mistake then. I thought he was extremely good. I'm beginning to think those Tories who see him as a no hoper are going to end up with omelette on their face.0 -
"Teresa May is a porn star"
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How anyone in public life can even think about a comment like that is pathetic. I agree its difficult to throw him off the council but its hard to see him being re-elected.volcanopete said:How can anyone vote for such a party as this?
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/lib-dem-leader-steps-down-after-comment-1-6503142?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed0 -
Sounds a good idea, how many have you sent?foxinsoxuk said:
On this, I agree with Nick!TheScreamingEagles said:I've just run out of mind bleach
@faisalislam: Clegg says Balls claiming centre ground fiscal credibility a bit like getting "a late night voicemail from an ex saying they have changed"
Mind you such voicemails sometimes get a sympathy shag...
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How desperate can Labour get , we will have 1000 more than what the SNP promise.
What pathetic cretins.
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Now you are confused. Companies exist thanks to investors who get interest on their investment. That investment has created the jobs. Investors forego dividends to ensure money is invested for the future in companies to secure jobs and create more.Ishmael_X said:
People don't have their money in gold or cash. They have it by and large in shares, gilts and real property, and earn dividends from profits made by workers or get paid interest out of tax paid by workers or rent out of wages paid to workers.Indigo said:
I am still confused.rcs1000 said:@Indigo
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The bit I am struggling to understand is that Mr Rich, inherits millions and spends his whole life in a jacuzzi, when he retires he has less money, but in essence continues to live off his wealth, I can't see how someone else is paying for his life.
Mr Busy, works his whole life diligently, he buys physical gold with his spare money and put it in a box, when he retires he starts taking the gold out the box and selling it to pay for his lifestyle. From the point of retirement on I can't see how his life is any different to Mr Rich
Mr Average does pretty much as Mr Busy, but he invests his spare money in Index Linked savings instruments, which he starts to sell off on retirement. Now it start to get a bit hazy for me, is this in any real way different to the circumstances of Mr Rich or Mr Busy ?
Perhaps you can recommend something relevant to read here for the amateur investor.
eg
''Audi will spend 24 billion euros ($29 billion) to develop technology and expand production, boosting its five-year investment plan by 2 billion euros''
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-27/audi-to-invest-29-billion-through-2019-to-surpass-bmw.html
GM have invested about 125 million at Elesmere Port to secure jobs and add a further 700 plus hundreds more with component makers.
Pensions generally are paid for from contributions paid in during working life. New rules dictate pensions will be paid for by worker and company contributions. Old Age Pension is paid for from the NI contributions paid in by workers and companies. Its bogus to say retirement is paid by people in work. Pensions are paid by sacrifices during work and by those unfortunates who die early.
FWIW that GM investment will boost the UK content and create a big investment in UK component makers. It involves a new pay deal and round the clock working 51 weeks a year. Somewhere in mainland Europe a GM factory will be shut. Its called inward investment. Merseyside is an automotive success story. I for one want to keep that work here and not exported to places like Romania.0 -
Its remarkably skilful of Labour to make even malcolmg sound sensible. Rarely have I seen a more silly pledge. In any event a devolved Scotland receives money and the devolved Scottish government spends it as it deems fit. The Scottish NHS is not part of a national UK general election - MPs have no say in how its run.0
