Does anyone have fond memories of the early 1990s?
First girlfriend? Does that count?
It was my favourite period musically. My most listened-to musical period is still 1990-1992. The Pixies and the Wedding Present were still extant and baggy was in its heyday.
Actually, ages 14-17 were a really good period of my life - I was starting to interact with girls and alcoholic drinks and other things I could do with my emerging freedom. It wasn't that the times were better than they are now, objectively; it was that the trajectory with which each year was better than the last was so good. And that, my friends, is the real key to happiness.
First year at Uni (1991-92). First girlfriend including you know. Played rugby for Uni first team including playing London Irish U21's, came top in year, learned to drive and acquired a first car, Swindon an established second tier team.
Hell yes I remember the early 90's fondly.
Heh, that's another PB age surprise for me - I'd have put you a similar age to me, i.e. ten years younger!
I'm old. Having a son at 50 is ok in theory but I wonder if its much easier when you are younger...
I'm old too. I remember going to my great grandmother's 90th birthday party in 1950. She was fiercely Irish with a shillelagh on the wall and played the fiddle. She was born in 1860.
She was born the year that Abraham Lincoln was elected President just before the American Civil War. And I knew her and remember her. I've told my grandchildren so that in 2060, they can say my grandfather remembered etc etc.
I have a weird fascination with chains of connection such as that. How few people who actually met could you get back to say Roman Britain? Or 1066?
I am two people away from The Duke of Wellington. My Grandmother died in 2014. Her Grandfather was a boot boy for the Duke.
Unfortunately for you (on this score, as a claim to degrees-of-separation), there are many thousands of people who are also three degrees separated. Wellington was godfather to the young Prince Arthur, later Duke of Connaught, and was present at the latter's baptism in 1850. The duke lived to 1942 and in his later years then met Princess Elizabeth, as she then was. So anyone who met the late Queen has a pretty direct route to the Iron Duke.
Your link is much more interesting though.
Personally but two degrees of seperation from her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. AND also from her mum, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mum, Sir Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and host of others of the Good, Great and Otherwise.
For what THAT's worth.
True, although there probably aren't all that many around now who met FDR.
An interesting 2/3 day reinhabiting former memories in Nottingham, with a niceish lunch out and walking round the centre and the Park Estate, which became a "no through traffic" area in the late 1980s iirc, but may have been the same before it was opened up as it has been there since mid-Victorian times. A big flat building site where whatever replaces the Broadmarsh Shopping Centre will be.
It seems to be doing reasonably well as a pleasant place to me, and will benefit from being one of the places which will not have a chargeable Low Emissons Zone, as they have had an "anti-congestion and provide alternatives" strategy in place for a little over 25 years.
And my first experience with mobile phone payable parking spaces. I can see certain benefits - such as remote time extension. And certain benefits for the parking scheme administrators.
I live in the Park Estate and yes Nottingham is fie especially as the students are back along Derby Road
Do you happen to have a list of restaurant recommendations?
I went to Browns, which is OK at £35 for me on a fixed price menu, including 3 courses, a glass of beer and the service charge, but not memorable and I would give it 6.5/10. Also a stepped entrance and loos upstairs, and their risotto and fancy starter salad were a bit thrown-together.
The most outstanding meal I ever had in Nottingham was at a restaurant called Mozart's on Wollaton Road, but that was a long time ago. I think the last time I ate out there was pre-COVID at a place called "Bill's Restaurant" on the King Street / Queen Street vic - which was enjoyable.
I seem to recall one in a small Georgian Country House which still survives at the Derby Road end of the Park, and I need to investigate.
Has anyone been following the story of how the Russian government paid at least $10m to (moderately prominent) YouTubers for pro-Russian / anti-Ukrainian content?
I find it deeply disturbing that we were not considered influential enough for a straight bribe. Come on Kremlin, cash out, and we'll let the trolls in.
Your father and I were both invited to the Russian embassy in 2017.
We declined.
We should have gone and taken the money and pumped out pro Ukraine content.
I presume some grand ball, rather tan invited for questioning?
Has anyone been following the story of how the Russian government paid at least $10m to (moderately prominent) YouTubers for pro-Russian / anti-Ukrainian content?
I find it deeply disturbing that we were not considered influential enough for a straight bribe. Come on Kremlin, cash out, and we'll let the trolls in.
Your father and I were both invited to the Russian embassy in 2017.
We declined.
We should have gone and taken the money and pumped out pro Ukraine content.
You would have needed to stay on the ground floor if you did that though.
Has anyone been following the story of how the Russian government paid at least $10m to (moderately prominent) YouTubers for pro-Russian / anti-Ukrainian content?
I find it deeply disturbing that we were not considered influential enough for a straight bribe. Come on Kremlin, cash out, and we'll let the trolls in.
Your father and I were both invited to the Russian embassy in 2017.
We declined.
We should have gone and taken the money and pumped out pro Ukraine content.
I presume some grand ball, rather tan invited for questioning?
Yeah an event for political journalists.
I had to declare the invite at my day job and I had the piss ripped out of me for it.
Sausages/hostages - was it in fact a deliberate error? For an embattled PM anything to do with homely stuff such as sausages is a plus.
I think he corrected himself too swiftly and the manner of his correction was too contrived. (No idea if the preceding is true, but I'm going to look at the video again)
Edit: It would have been so much fun if it had been deliberate, but I think not.
"Shattered Nation: how to save Britain from becoming a failed state" (2023), Danny Dorling. A lecture at the David Hume Institute, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCUfqIND8mQ , 92mins.
Does anyone have fond memories of the early 1990s?
First girlfriend? Does that count?
It was my favourite period musically. My most listened-to musical period is still 1990-1992. The Pixies and the Wedding Present were still extant and baggy was in its heyday.
Actually, ages 14-17 were a really good period of my life - I was starting to interact with girls and alcoholic drinks and other things I could do with my emerging freedom. It wasn't that the times were better than they are now, objectively; it was that the trajectory with which each year was better than the last was so good. And that, my friends, is the real key to happiness.
First year at Uni (1991-92). First girlfriend including you know. Played rugby for Uni first team including playing London Irish U21's, came top in year, learned to drive and acquired a first car, Swindon an established second tier team.
Hell yes I remember the early 90's fondly.
Heh, that's another PB age surprise for me - I'd have put you a similar age to me, i.e. ten years younger!
I'm old. Having a son at 50 is ok in theory but I wonder if its much easier when you are younger...
I'm old too. I remember going to my great grandmother's 90th birthday party in 1950. She was fiercely Irish with a shillelagh on the wall and played the fiddle. She was born in 1860.
She was born the year that Abraham Lincoln was elected President just before the American Civil War. And I knew her and remember her. I've told my grandchildren so that in 2060, they can say my grandfather remembered etc etc.
I have a weird fascination with chains of connection such as that. How few people who actually met could you get back to say Roman Britain? Or 1066?
I am two people away from The Duke of Wellington. My Grandmother died in 2014. Her Grandfather was a boot boy for the Duke.
Unfortunately for you (on this score, as a claim to degrees-of-separation), there are many thousands of people who are also three degrees separated. Wellington was godfather to the young Prince Arthur, later Duke of Connaught, and was present at the latter's baptism in 1850. The duke lived to 1942 and in his later years then met Princess Elizabeth, as she then was. So anyone who met the late Queen has a pretty direct route to the Iron Duke.
Your link is much more interesting though.
Personally but two degrees of seperation from her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. AND also from her mum, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mum, Sir Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and host of others of the Good, Great and Otherwise.
For what THAT's worth.
True, although there probably aren't all that many around now who met FDR.
My 2-degree seperation from FDR & many others, is via old boss who meet George C. Marshall as a child, and of course GCM was on handshake basis with FDR etc., etc.
Incidently my old boss was encarcerated in some snooty Brit boarding school at time of coronation of QEII. And attended (some of) the ceremonial, along with his with his kid sisster, who was ensconed at private school for girls also somewhere in England.
When her headmistress saw that she'd receive a letter from a "strange" man, she summoned the girl to her office, and asked who he was???
"General Marshall," replied the cheeky girl, "you know, as in 'The Marshall Plan'?"
“My husband’s first wife’s first husband knew Oliver Cromwell—and liked him well.”
Simon Jenkins develops this story over four long columns and, provided there are not too many of you, I am happy to send you a copy now that you cannot see it online at the newspaper. It is really that good!
But for those of you who merely like an idle browse through my musings when not particularly taxed by other issues, let me explain how what seems unbelievable actually happened.
The setting for the article was 1999 but the remark was made in 1923 by a 91 year old who had been born in 1832. At the age of 16 she had married an 80 year old man named Henry. Sixty four years earlier, in 1784, the young Henry had, for obscure reasons, married an 82 year old woman. Her first marriage had been in 1720 and was to an 80 year old who had served Cromwell before his death in 1658!
Whatever you make of this, it seemed worthy of mention because, at least in 1999, there was a man alive who heard a woman say “My husband’s first wife’s first husband knew Cromwell—and liked him well”.
"The UK media picked up on an apparent stumble, which saw Starmer calling for a return of the “sausages” instead of the “hostages”, immediately correcting himself." Al Jazeera
I am backing Angela next party leader at around 20. I think a putsch from the left is likely and her own personal photographer = on manoeuvres
Has anyone been following the story of how the Russian government paid at least $10m to (moderately prominent) YouTubers for pro-Russian / anti-Ukrainian content?
I find it deeply disturbing that we were not considered influential enough for a straight bribe. Come on Kremlin, cash out, and we'll let the trolls in.
Your father and I were both invited to the Russian embassy in 2017.
We declined.
We should have gone and taken the money and pumped out pro Ukraine content.
I presume some grand ball, rather tan invited for questioning?
Yeah an event for political journalists.
I had to declare the invite at my day job and I had the piss ripped out of me for it.
I'd have gone just to see the insides of what are such great buildings along the street where the Russians squat. (Kensington Palace Gardens/Palace Green)
I've never been inside either the grounds or the houses there.
Sausages/hostages - was it in fact a deliberate error? For an embattled PM anything to do with homely stuff such as sausages is a plus.
I think he corrected himself too swiftly and the manner of his correction was too contrived. (No idea if the preceding is true, but I'm going to look at the video again)
Edit: It would have been so much fun if it had been deliberate, but I think not.
No. For many reasons but you don't make pork-themed jokes about that part of the world - about the only topic the combatants agree on.
Sausages/hostages - was it in fact a deliberate error? For an embattled PM anything to do with homely stuff such as sausages is a plus.
I think he corrected himself too swiftly and the manner of his correction was too contrived. (No idea if the preceding is true, but I'm going to look at the video again)
Edit: It would have been so much fun if it had been deliberate, but I think not.
No. For many reasons but you don't make pork-themed jokes about that part of the world - about the only topic the combatants agree on.
Indeed no. Sausages being associated with pork is probably a British thing - I'm not sure about south america, but otherwise we all have sausages.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
Sausages/hostages - was it in fact a deliberate error? For an embattled PM anything to do with homely stuff such as sausages is a plus.
I think he corrected himself too swiftly and the manner of his correction was too contrived. (No idea if the preceding is true, but I'm going to look at the video again)
Edit: It would have been so much fun if it had been deliberate, but I think not.
No. For many reasons but you don't make pork-themed jokes about that part of the world - about the only topic the combatants agree on.
Does anyone have fond memories of the early 1990s?
First girlfriend? Does that count?
It was my favourite period musically. My most listened-to musical period is still 1990-1992. The Pixies and the Wedding Present were still extant and baggy was in its heyday.
Actually, ages 14-17 were a really good period of my life - I was starting to interact with girls and alcoholic drinks and other things I could do with my emerging freedom. It wasn't that the times were better than they are now, objectively; it was that the trajectory with which each year was better than the last was so good. And that, my friends, is the real key to happiness.
First year at Uni (1991-92). First girlfriend including you know. Played rugby for Uni first team including playing London Irish U21's, came top in year, learned to drive and acquired a first car, Swindon an established second tier team.
Hell yes I remember the early 90's fondly.
Heh, that's another PB age surprise for me - I'd have put you a similar age to me, i.e. ten years younger!
I'm old. Having a son at 50 is ok in theory but I wonder if its much easier when you are younger...
I'm old too. I remember going to my great grandmother's 90th birthday party in 1950. She was fiercely Irish with a shillelagh on the wall and played the fiddle. She was born in 1860.
She was born the year that Abraham Lincoln was elected President just before the American Civil War. And I knew her and remember her. I've told my grandchildren so that in 2060, they can say my grandfather remembered etc etc.
I have a weird fascination with chains of connection such as that. How few people who actually met could you get back to say Roman Britain? Or 1066?
I am two people away from The Duke of Wellington. My Grandmother died in 2014. Her Grandfather was a boot boy for the Duke.
Unfortunately for you (on this score, as a claim to degrees-of-separation), there are many thousands of people who are also three degrees separated. Wellington was godfather to the young Prince Arthur, later Duke of Connaught, and was present at the latter's baptism in 1850. The duke lived to 1942 and in his later years then met Princess Elizabeth, as she then was. So anyone who met the late Queen has a pretty direct route to the Iron Duke.
Your link is much more interesting though.
Personally but two degrees of seperation from her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. AND also from her mum, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mum, Sir Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and host of others of the Good, Great and Otherwise.
For what THAT's worth.
I didn't meet the late Queen personally, but I was once in a choir singing the National Anthem in a fairly small college chapel while she sat in the seat normally reserved for the provost: that was un-nerving...
I think it speaks to how much standards have been lowered, that everyone thought this was normal now in the US.
I didn't. I was about to post that it sounded terrible and surely some mistake when I saw your clarifier. But, yes, given it's Trump I'm not so surprised and that's telling. US (therefore grosser) variation on "Boris being Boris".
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
YELLOW CARD - clearly this post contravenes rule 27b of the PB chat agreement of 2020. In particular it states that sauces will not be permitted as a substitute for any associated foodstuffs. It may be seen as the ruling of a great Tartar, but this rule prevents all sorts of bad fins.
"The UK media picked up on an apparent stumble, which saw Starmer calling for a return of the “sausages” instead of the “hostages”, immediately correcting himself." Al Jazeera
I am backing Angela next party leader at around 20. I think a putsch from the left is likely and her own personal photographer = on manoeuvres
I don't know if she'd be any good as PM but Angela would certainly be a lot more fun than Starmer and Reeves.
Can you imagine PMQ's if it's Ange Vs Kemi? They're encounters could be epic!
Does anyone have fond memories of the early 1990s?
First girlfriend? Does that count?
It was my favourite period musically. My most listened-to musical period is still 1990-1992. The Pixies and the Wedding Present were still extant and baggy was in its heyday.
Actually, ages 14-17 were a really good period of my life - I was starting to interact with girls and alcoholic drinks and other things I could do with my emerging freedom. It wasn't that the times were better than they are now, objectively; it was that the trajectory with which each year was better than the last was so good. And that, my friends, is the real key to happiness.
First year at Uni (1991-92). First girlfriend including you know. Played rugby for Uni first team including playing London Irish U21's, came top in year, learned to drive and acquired a first car, Swindon an established second tier team.
Hell yes I remember the early 90's fondly.
Heh, that's another PB age surprise for me - I'd have put you a similar age to me, i.e. ten years younger!
I'm old. Having a son at 50 is ok in theory but I wonder if its much easier when you are younger...
I'm old too. I remember going to my great grandmother's 90th birthday party in 1950. She was fiercely Irish with a shillelagh on the wall and played the fiddle. She was born in 1860.
She was born the year that Abraham Lincoln was elected President just before the American Civil War. And I knew her and remember her. I've told my grandchildren so that in 2060, they can say my grandfather remembered etc etc.
I have a weird fascination with chains of connection such as that. How few people who actually met could you get back to say Roman Britain? Or 1066?
I am two people away from The Duke of Wellington. My Grandmother died in 2014. Her Grandfather was a boot boy for the Duke.
Unfortunately for you (on this score, as a claim to degrees-of-separation), there are many thousands of people who are also three degrees separated. Wellington was godfather to the young Prince Arthur, later Duke of Connaught, and was present at the latter's baptism in 1850. The duke lived to 1942 and in his later years then met Princess Elizabeth, as she then was. So anyone who met the late Queen has a pretty direct route to the Iron Duke.
Your link is much more interesting though.
Personally but two degrees of seperation from her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. AND also from her mum, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mum, Sir Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and host of others of the Good, Great and Otherwise.
For what THAT's worth.
I didn't meet the late Queen personally, but I was once in a choir singing the National Anthem in a fairly small college chapel while she sat in the seat normally reserved for the provost: that was un-nerving...
Had similar experience while sitting in 2nd row of House of Commons visitor's gallery, during on of the pre-Iraq War debates in early 2002, when John Major appeared with small entourage and sat down ahed of me in the front row.
JM gave me & others in the cheap seat a shy smile and sat down, and began listening to the debate. Soon we were all doing likewise.
Does anyone have fond memories of the early 1990s?
First girlfriend? Does that count?
It was my favourite period musically. My most listened-to musical period is still 1990-1992. The Pixies and the Wedding Present were still extant and baggy was in its heyday.
Actually, ages 14-17 were a really good period of my life - I was starting to interact with girls and alcoholic drinks and other things I could do with my emerging freedom. It wasn't that the times were better than they are now, objectively; it was that the trajectory with which each year was better than the last was so good. And that, my friends, is the real key to happiness.
First year at Uni (1991-92). First girlfriend including you know. Played rugby for Uni first team including playing London Irish U21's, came top in year, learned to drive and acquired a first car, Swindon an established second tier team.
Hell yes I remember the early 90's fondly.
Heh, that's another PB age surprise for me - I'd have put you a similar age to me, i.e. ten years younger!
I'm old. Having a son at 50 is ok in theory but I wonder if its much easier when you are younger...
I'm old too. I remember going to my great grandmother's 90th birthday party in 1950. She was fiercely Irish with a shillelagh on the wall and played the fiddle. She was born in 1860.
She was born the year that Abraham Lincoln was elected President just before the American Civil War. And I knew her and remember her. I've told my grandchildren so that in 2060, they can say my grandfather remembered etc etc.
I have a weird fascination with chains of connection such as that. How few people who actually met could you get back to say Roman Britain? Or 1066?
I am two people away from The Duke of Wellington. My Grandmother died in 2014. Her Grandfather was a boot boy for the Duke.
Unfortunately for you (on this score, as a claim to degrees-of-separation), there are many thousands of people who are also three degrees separated. Wellington was godfather to the young Prince Arthur, later Duke of Connaught, and was present at the latter's baptism in 1850. The duke lived to 1942 and in his later years then met Princess Elizabeth, as she then was. So anyone who met the late Queen has a pretty direct route to the Iron Duke.
Your link is much more interesting though.
Personally but two degrees of seperation from her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. AND also from her mum, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mum, Sir Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and host of others of the Good, Great and Otherwise.
For what THAT's worth.
I didn't meet the late Queen personally, but I was once in a choir singing the National Anthem in a fairly small college chapel while she sat in the seat normally reserved for the provost: that was un-nerving...
Had similar experience while sitting in 2nd row of House of Commons visitor's gallery, during on of the pre-Iraq War debates in early 2002, when John Major appeared with small entourage and sat down ahed of me in the front row.
JM gave me & others in the cheap seat a shy smile and sat down, and began listening to the debate. Soon we were all doing likewise.
I can't remember now, did JM support the Iraq war?
"The UK media picked up on an apparent stumble, which saw Starmer calling for a return of the “sausages” instead of the “hostages”, immediately correcting himself." Al Jazeera
I am backing Angela next party leader at around 20. I think a putsch from the left is likely and her own personal photographer = on manoeuvres
You wont be getting your £ any time soon.
You think Starmer is cooked over one misspoken sausage moment?
The sausagegate thing has rather overshadowed the melancholy fact that the speech as a whole was a dry as dust piece of rhetorical boilerplate lacking anything approaching an idea or a theme, lacking also any sort of development of ideas. What it must be like to sit in a hall with a lot of people who could applaud that....
On second thoughts, no. I won't demean myself. The substance of the speech is what counts. People are wetting themselves over one little slip of the tongue but such trivia does not interest me. I genuinely don't give a sausage about it.
"The UK media picked up on an apparent stumble, which saw Starmer calling for a return of the “sausages” instead of the “hostages”, immediately correcting himself." Al Jazeera
I am backing Angela next party leader at around 20. I think a putsch from the left is likely and her own personal photographer = on manoeuvres
You wont be getting your £ any time soon.
You think Starmer is cooked over one misspoken sausage moment?
They laughed when I backed Truss next PL at 100.
Of course I don't, but small sums at long odds can sit on the back burner for years. The message from today is Starmer is unlucky.
Sausages/hostages - was it in fact a deliberate error? For an embattled PM anything to do with homely stuff such as sausages is a plus.
I think he corrected himself too swiftly and the manner of his correction was too contrived. (No idea if the preceding is true, but I'm going to look at the video again)
Edit: It would have been so much fun if it had been deliberate, but I think not.
Had it been so, surely he'd have made a full English of it ?
Apologised for his fried or scrambled brains; recounted the hash Brown's previously made of things; gone the full beans and talked of avoiding mushroom clouds... and not ended up toast on tomorrow's front pages.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
The sausagegate thing has rather overshadowed the melancholy fact that the speech as a whole was a dry as dust piece of rhetorical boilerplate lacking anything approaching an idea or a theme, lacking also any sort of development of ideas. What it must be like to sit in a hall with a lot of people who could applaud that....
It’s the party leaders speech at a party conference. If he’d stood up there in silence for 5 minutes, then sat down, he’d have got the same applause.
YELLOW CARD - clearly this post contravenes rule 27b of the PB chat agreement of 2020. In particular it states that sauces will not be permitted as a substitute for any associated foodstuffs. It may be seen as the ruling of a great Tartar, but this rule prevents all sorts of bad fins.
“My husband’s first wife’s first husband knew Oliver Cromwell—and liked him well.”
Simon Jenkins develops this story over four long columns and, provided there are not too many of you, I am happy to send you a copy now that you cannot see it online at the newspaper. It is really that good!
But for those of you who merely like an idle browse through my musings when not particularly taxed by other issues, let me explain how what seems unbelievable actually happened.
The setting for the article was 1999 but the remark was made in 1923 by a 91 year old who had been born in 1832. At the age of 16 she had married an 80 year old man named Henry. Sixty four years earlier, in 1784, the young Henry had, for obscure reasons, married an 82 year old woman. Her first marriage had been in 1720 and was to an 80 year old who had served Cromwell before his death in 1658!
Whatever you make of this, it seemed worthy of mention because, at least in 1999, there was a man alive who heard a woman say “My husband’s first wife’s first husband knew Cromwell—and liked him well”.
Does anyone have fond memories of the early 1990s?
First girlfriend? Does that count?
It was my favourite period musically. My most listened-to musical period is still 1990-1992. The Pixies and the Wedding Present were still extant and baggy was in its heyday.
Actually, ages 14-17 were a really good period of my life - I was starting to interact with girls and alcoholic drinks and other things I could do with my emerging freedom. It wasn't that the times were better than they are now, objectively; it was that the trajectory with which each year was better than the last was so good. And that, my friends, is the real key to happiness.
First year at Uni (1991-92). First girlfriend including you know. Played rugby for Uni first team including playing London Irish U21's, came top in year, learned to drive and acquired a first car, Swindon an established second tier team.
Hell yes I remember the early 90's fondly.
Heh, that's another PB age surprise for me - I'd have put you a similar age to me, i.e. ten years younger!
I'm old. Having a son at 50 is ok in theory but I wonder if its much easier when you are younger...
I'm old too. I remember going to my great grandmother's 90th birthday party in 1950. She was fiercely Irish with a shillelagh on the wall and played the fiddle. She was born in 1860.
She was born the year that Abraham Lincoln was elected President just before the American Civil War. And I knew her and remember her. I've told my grandchildren so that in 2060, they can say my grandfather remembered etc etc.
I have a weird fascination with chains of connection such as that. How few people who actually met could you get back to say Roman Britain? Or 1066?
I am two people away from The Duke of Wellington. My Grandmother died in 2014. Her Grandfather was a boot boy for the Duke.
Unfortunately for you (on this score, as a claim to degrees-of-separation), there are many thousands of people who are also three degrees separated. Wellington was godfather to the young Prince Arthur, later Duke of Connaught, and was present at the latter's baptism in 1850. The duke lived to 1942 and in his later years then met Princess Elizabeth, as she then was. So anyone who met the late Queen has a pretty direct route to the Iron Duke.
Your link is much more interesting though.
Personally but two degrees of seperation from her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. AND also from her mum, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mum, Sir Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and host of others of the Good, Great and Otherwise.
For what THAT's worth.
I didn't meet the late Queen personally, but I was once in a choir singing the National Anthem in a fairly small college chapel while she sat in the seat normally reserved for the provost: that was un-nerving...
The most (in)famous person I have ever met was Jimmy Savile.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
£200k house while earning £30k and a 3x mortgage - you need to be a couple to do that..
An interesting 2/3 day reinhabiting former memories in Nottingham, with a niceish lunch out and walking round the centre and the Park Estate, which became a "no through traffic" area in the late 1980s iirc, but may have been the same before it was opened up as it has been there since mid-Victorian times. A big flat building site where whatever replaces the Broadmarsh Shopping Centre will be.
It seems to be doing reasonably well as a pleasant place to me, and will benefit from being one of the places which will not have a chargeable Low Emissons Zone, as they have had an "anti-congestion and provide alternatives" strategy in place for a little over 25 years.
And my first experience with mobile phone payable parking spaces. I can see certain benefits - such as remote time extension. And certain benefits for the parking scheme administrators.
Nottingham is a fine city, well deserving of its Queen of the Midlands moniker.
(I also like parking apps for the reasons you cite - but the proliferation of them is annoying)
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
The former chairman of the Police Federation made a “sexually suggestive” remark about the wife of a police constable who was killed in the line of duty, a misconduct panel was told on Tuesday.
John Apter allegedly said he wanted to “comfort” Lissie Harper, the widow of PC Andrew Harper, “in my hotel room” after the officer’s death in 2020.
Apter, who served as a constable with Hampshire Constabulary, is also accused of groping a younger female constable’s bottom on a work night out and telling a pregnant colleague “maybe you’ll get a bum now”.
Does anyone have fond memories of the early 1990s?
First girlfriend? Does that count?
It was my favourite period musically. My most listened-to musical period is still 1990-1992. The Pixies and the Wedding Present were still extant and baggy was in its heyday.
Actually, ages 14-17 were a really good period of my life - I was starting to interact with girls and alcoholic drinks and other things I could do with my emerging freedom. It wasn't that the times were better than they are now, objectively; it was that the trajectory with which each year was better than the last was so good. And that, my friends, is the real key to happiness.
First year at Uni (1991-92). First girlfriend including you know. Played rugby for Uni first team including playing London Irish U21's, came top in year, learned to drive and acquired a first car, Swindon an established second tier team.
Hell yes I remember the early 90's fondly.
Heh, that's another PB age surprise for me - I'd have put you a similar age to me, i.e. ten years younger!
I'm old. Having a son at 50 is ok in theory but I wonder if its much easier when you are younger...
I'm old too. I remember going to my great grandmother's 90th birthday party in 1950. She was fiercely Irish with a shillelagh on the wall and played the fiddle. She was born in 1860.
She was born the year that Abraham Lincoln was elected President just before the American Civil War. And I knew her and remember her. I've told my grandchildren so that in 2060, they can say my grandfather remembered etc etc.
I have a weird fascination with chains of connection such as that. How few people who actually met could you get back to say Roman Britain? Or 1066?
I am two people away from The Duke of Wellington. My Grandmother died in 2014. Her Grandfather was a boot boy for the Duke.
Unfortunately for you (on this score, as a claim to degrees-of-separation), there are many thousands of people who are also three degrees separated. Wellington was godfather to the young Prince Arthur, later Duke of Connaught, and was present at the latter's baptism in 1850. The duke lived to 1942 and in his later years then met Princess Elizabeth, as she then was. So anyone who met the late Queen has a pretty direct route to the Iron Duke.
Your link is much more interesting though.
Personally but two degrees of seperation from her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. AND also from her mum, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mum, Sir Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and host of others of the Good, Great and Otherwise.
For what THAT's worth.
I didn't meet the late Queen personally, but I was once in a choir singing the National Anthem in a fairly small college chapel while she sat in the seat normally reserved for the provost: that was un-nerving...
The most (in)famous person I have ever met was Jimmy Savile.
Drummer from T'Pau. Didn't meet him but knew somebody who was mates with him.
The former chairman of the Police Federation made a “sexually suggestive” remark about the wife of a police constable who was killed in the line of duty, a misconduct panel was told on Tuesday.
John Apter allegedly said he wanted to “comfort” Lissie Harper, the widow of PC Andrew Harper, “in my hotel room” after the officer’s death in 2020.
Apter, who served as a constable with Hampshire Constabulary, is also accused of groping a younger female constable’s bottom on a work night out and telling a pregnant colleague “maybe you’ll get a bum now”.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
Well its not £30k but 20K, 10% of £200k.
Or £10k each as its for a couple.
And yes, it does assume a few years living at home. Which is what all the teenagers I know do who get a job at 18 (and even more so for those who leave school at 16).
No longer the tory conference speech bullshit that everyone knew stood no chance of meaningfully happening.
Running the country looks, to me, to be pretty hard. For the first time in a long time we have a government that is making a decent go of it.
Good on 'em.
The self-interested cynics will try to tear it all down and return the country to chaos. I don't think we should let them.
Yes, I agree. The oratory was powerful, moving and inspiring.
It's truly one for the history books: right up there with Churchill's "We shall fight on the beaches" and MLK's "I Have a Dream."
Nothing says visionary leadership like SKS having a butcher's.
Superb. From start to finish.
It possibly outdid the Gettysburg address - I've noticed multiple major social media accounts across the pond are quoting it and showing vids
The only tiny downside is that the only bit they are showing or talking about is where he calls the hostages "sausages"
I genuinely think this will be the only thing most foreigners ever remember him for. Saying "sausages" instead of hostages
SAUSAGES
No one really knows how the game is played The art of the trade How the sausage gets made We just assume that it happens But no one else is in the room where it happens
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
So no avocados is what I'm hearing.
The deposit is pretty much the reason why all the "well, if government policy forces landlords to sell up, that's good for renters" arguments fall flat.
It's great if you're in a position to save for a 30k deposit (few are), it's even better if you've got family who can stump up the deposit (so, generational wealth).
If you don't have that ability, the war on landlords just means the pool of renters who are unable to buy are competing for a diminishing number of properties at ever higher prices, with the ever increasing regulatory burdens and red tape tacked onto the price of the rental.
We are at a point where the rental trap is more or less impossible to escape without family help, entrenching a two-tier system where those who are able to tap into generational wealth can get on the property ladder, while those without are screwed in perpetuity.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
So no avocados is what I'm hearing.
The deposit is pretty much the reason why all the "well, if government policy forces landlords to sell up, that's good for renters" arguments fall flat.
It's great if you're in a position to save for a 30k deposit (few are), it's even better if you've got family who can stump up the deposit (so, generational wealth).
If you don't have that ability, the war on landlords just means the pool of renters who are unable to buy are competing for a diminishing number of properties at ever higher prices, with the ever increasing regulatory burdens and red tape tacked onto the price of the rental.
We are at a point where the rental trap is more or less impossible to escape without family help, entrenching a two-tier system where those who are able to tap into generational wealth can get on the property ladder, while those without are screwed in perpetuity.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
So no avocados is what I'm hearing.
The deposit is pretty much the reason why all the "well, if government policy forces landlords to sell up, that's good for renters" arguments fall flat.
It's great if you're in a position to save for a 30k deposit (few are), it's even better if you've got family who can stump up the deposit (so, generational wealth).
If you don't have that ability, the war on landlords just means the pool of renters who are unable to buy are competing for a diminishing number of properties at ever higher prices, with the ever increasing regulatory burdens and red tape tacked onto the price of the rental.
We are at a point where the rental trap is more or less impossible to escape without family help, entrenching a two-tier system where those who are able to tap into generational wealth can get on the property ladder, while those without are screwed in perpetuity.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
So no avocados is what I'm hearing.
The deposit is pretty much the reason why all the "well, if government policy forces landlords to sell up, that's good for renters" arguments fall flat.
It's great if you're in a position to save for a 30k deposit (few are), it's even better if you've got family who can stump up the deposit (so, generational wealth).
If you don't have that ability, the war on landlords just means the pool of renters who are unable to buy are competing for a diminishing number of properties at ever higher prices, with the ever increasing regulatory burdens and red tape tacked onto the price of the rental.
We are at a point where the rental trap is more or less impossible to escape without family help, entrenching a two-tier system where those who are able to tap into generational wealth can get on the property ladder, while those without are screwed in perpetuity.
What on earth happens to the houses the landlords are selling? Either go to other landlords or renters. If they are left empty or second homes, tax them punitively. The houses don't disappear because amateur landlord can't make their business work.
I found that very Big Brother. I always understood the Brexit version as limited to borders and legislation, Klouseau's idea sounds more like control of me which is ok because it's labour control.
After today I am less inclined to deride him because I now pity him and I don't think there is any way back from that, which is why I am looking at next leader bets
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
Well its not £30k but 20K, 10% of £200k.
Or £10k each as its for a couple.
And yes, it does assume a few years living at home. Which is what all the teenagers I know do who get a job at 18 (and even more so for those who leave school at 16).
Eek twin A managed to save £20,000 in a lifetime ISA in just over 2.5 years - and that in a not brilliantly paying job while living at home and paying for multiple holidays and a car.
And yes she was being charged rent - I did give it back to her as a gifted deposit though..
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
Tighten the inheritance tax rules and you incentivise giving early and often.
We’ve been hiking the Blue Ridge Mountains, and came across a bear twice today. Thankfully both times in the car to and from, on the BRParkway, and not when walking in the woods with the dog.
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
So no avocados is what I'm hearing.
The deposit is pretty much the reason why all the "well, if government policy forces landlords to sell up, that's good for renters" arguments fall flat.
It's great if you're in a position to save for a 30k deposit (few are), it's even better if you've got family who can stump up the deposit (so, generational wealth).
If you don't have that ability, the war on landlords just means the pool of renters who are unable to buy are competing for a diminishing number of properties at ever higher prices, with the ever increasing regulatory burdens and red tape tacked onto the price of the rental.
We are at a point where the rental trap is more or less impossible to escape without family help, entrenching a two-tier system where those who are able to tap into generational wealth can get on the property ladder, while those without are screwed in perpetuity.
What on earth happens to the houses the landlords are selling? Either go to other landlords or renters. If they are left empty or second homes, tax them punitively. The houses don't disappear because amateur landlord can't make their business work.
Well said.
The only way renters are hurt is if would-be landlords would have otherwise built new homes, but now don't.
However given we have so many restrictions on new buildings, that's not really an issue.
Liberalise construction and then the argument would be valid, but while construction is so massively restricted its not.
Nigel on the other hand is a middle class, middle ranking stock-broker who drinks red wine in high end restaurants.
He's really not. The only time I have met Farage was at random.... in a beer garden of a pub after a match at the Oval. And he was quaffing a pint, contentedly. He was convivial and happy to chat
Farage is what he is. It is part of his appeal. He doesn't pretend to be a working class guy, nor does he pretend to be ultra-posh, nor does he affect to be anything other than - a certain kind of middle class Englishman who goes into the City and wears cords and Barbour but also has strong political views and enjoys a pint of a Sunday
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
So no avocados is what I'm hearing.
The deposit is pretty much the reason why all the "well, if government policy forces landlords to sell up, that's good for renters" arguments fall flat.
It's great if you're in a position to save for a 30k deposit (few are), it's even better if you've got family who can stump up the deposit (so, generational wealth).
If you don't have that ability, the war on landlords just means the pool of renters who are unable to buy are competing for a diminishing number of properties at ever higher prices, with the ever increasing regulatory burdens and red tape tacked onto the price of the rental.
We are at a point where the rental trap is more or less impossible to escape without family help, entrenching a two-tier system where those who are able to tap into generational wealth can get on the property ladder, while those without are screwed in perpetuity.
What on earth happens to the houses the landlords are selling? Either go to other landlords or renters. If they are left empty or second homes, tax them punitively. The houses don't disappear because amateur landlord can't make their business work.
Are you completely blind, or just thick as a whale omelette?
As I stated above, landlords selling up is great for those who can afford a 30k deposit.
It kinda sucks for renters who can't.
May I suggest visiting a popular optician for some reading glasses?
In this morning's discussion about the £300k mortgage for a couple earning £50k did anyone mention that would be a property price higher than the national average for people barely earning above minimum wage.
But everybody who wants to buy a house under the age of 25 *must* have a 3-bed semi or better.
Its perfectly possible in large parts of the country as well.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
It's not that easy to have saved £30k - a whole year's pretax income - by the time you're 25, especially as you won't be starting on £30k, you'll be starting on £15-20k.
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
So no avocados is what I'm hearing.
The deposit is pretty much the reason why all the "well, if government policy forces landlords to sell up, that's good for renters" arguments fall flat.
It's great if you're in a position to save for a 30k deposit (few are), it's even better if you've got family who can stump up the deposit (so, generational wealth).
If you don't have that ability, the war on landlords just means the pool of renters who are unable to buy are competing for a diminishing number of properties at ever higher prices, with the ever increasing regulatory burdens and red tape tacked onto the price of the rental.
We are at a point where the rental trap is more or less impossible to escape without family help, entrenching a two-tier system where those who are able to tap into generational wealth can get on the property ladder, while those without are screwed in perpetuity.
What on earth happens to the houses the landlords are selling? Either go to other landlords or renters. If they are left empty or second homes, tax them punitively. The houses don't disappear because amateur landlord can't make their business work.
Well said.
The only way renters are hurt is if would-be landlords would have otherwise built new homes, but now don't.
However given we have so many restrictions on new buildings, that's not really an issue.
Liberalise construction and then the argument would be valid, but while construction is so massively restricted its not.
If a landlord throws the tenant out before selling a rented property you do end up with a temporary issue where the house is empty but is not occupied by a tenant or a house owner.
Currently we've 3 of the 8 houses nearest us are empty - 1 is because the landlord threw the longstanding tenants out the other 2 are due to the final residents dying. All 3 require a lot of modernisation before anyone could really live in thwm
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I went to Browns, which is OK at £35 for me on a fixed price menu, including 3 courses, a glass of beer and the service charge, but not memorable and I would give it
6.5/10. Also a stepped entrance and loos upstairs, and their risotto and fancy starter salad were a bit thrown-together.
The most outstanding meal I ever had in Nottingham was at a restaurant called Mozart's on Wollaton Road, but that was a long time ago. I think the last time I ate out there was pre-COVID at a place called "Bill's Restaurant" on the King Street / Queen Street vic - which was enjoyable.
I seem to recall one in a small Georgian Country House which still survives at the Derby Road end of the Park, and I need to investigate.
I had to declare the invite at my day job and I had the piss ripped out of me for it.
I think he corrected himself too swiftly and the manner of his correction was too contrived. (No idea if the preceding is true, but I'm going to look at the video again)
Edit: It would have been so much fun if it had been deliberate, but I think not.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g5qLcjcJ3UQ
Incidently my old boss was encarcerated in some snooty Brit boarding school at time of coronation of QEII. And attended (some of) the ceremonial, along with his with his kid sisster, who was ensconed at private school for girls also somewhere in England.
When her headmistress saw that she'd receive a letter from a "strange" man, she summoned the girl to her office, and asked who he was???
"General Marshall," replied the cheeky girl, "you know, as in 'The Marshall Plan'?"
Simon Jenkins develops this story over four long columns and, provided there are not too many of you, I am happy to send you a copy now that you cannot see it online at the newspaper. It is really that good!
But for those of you who merely like an idle browse through my musings when not particularly taxed by other issues, let me explain how what seems unbelievable actually happened.
The setting for the article was 1999 but the remark was made in 1923 by a 91 year old who had been born in 1832. At the age of 16 she had married an 80 year old man named Henry. Sixty four years earlier, in 1784, the young Henry had, for obscure reasons, married an 82 year old woman. Her first marriage had been in 1720 and was to an 80 year old who had served Cromwell before his death in 1658!
Whatever you make of this, it seemed worthy of mention because, at least in 1999, there was a man alive who heard a woman say “My husband’s first wife’s first husband knew Cromwell—and liked him well”.
https://www.charlesholloway.co.uk/2010/09/a-theory-of-relativity/
Edit: I see its already been mentioned on the previous thread.
But worth mentioning again in case anyone didn't see earlier.
I am backing Angela next party leader at around 20. I think a putsch from the left is likely and her own personal photographer = on manoeuvres
Gutted I missed all the sausage puns.
I've never been inside either the grounds or the houses there.
Can you imagine PMQ's if it's Ange Vs Kemi? They're encounters could be epic!
Latas.
JM gave me & others in the cheap seat a shy smile and sat down, and began listening to the debate. Soon we were all doing likewise.
You think Starmer is cooked over one misspoken sausage moment?
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On second thoughts, no. I won't demean myself. The substance of the speech is what counts. People are wetting themselves over one little slip of the tongue but such trivia does not interest me. I genuinely don't give a sausage about it.
Of course I don't, but small sums at long odds can sit on the back burner for years. The message from today is Starmer is unlucky.
Apologised for his fried or scrambled brains; recounted the hash Brown's previously made of things; gone the full beans and talked of avoiding mushroom clouds... and not ended up toast on tomorrow's front pages.
At least that's what my sauce tells me.
Leave school at 18, get a job, learn a skillset and at 25 they'll be earning £30k or more, have savings and no debt.
Then buy a 3 bed semi for £200k with a 10% deposit and a 3x mortgage.
Now that wont suit everyone's life plans but everyone has to make their own choices.
https://youtu.be/vDrsiGw1FIw?feature=shared
PMSL - Labour having a howler of a conference as warm up to the coming Tory disasterthon.
Very good.
No longer the tory conference speech bullshit that everyone knew stood no chance of meaningfully happening.
Running the country looks, to me, to be pretty hard. For the first time in a long time we have a government that is making a decent go of it.
Good on 'em.
The self-interested cynics will try to tear it all down and return the country to chaos. I don't think we should let them.
(I also like parking apps for the reasons you cite - but the proliferation of them is annoying)
Errata:
p. 50 For Pheasant read Peasant, throughout.
p. 52 For sausage read hostage.
Hmm. Anyone going to go all conspiracy on this?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/sep/24/hall-of-fame-quarterback-brett-favre-says-he-has-been-diagnosed-with-parkinsons
If you are living at home it might be doable, but if you're in shared accommodation, then you're going to be clearing at most £1,500/month (at £20k) and spending at least £500 of that on accommodation and bills. Even if you are able to save 20% of your post tax, post rent and bills income, you will struggle to save more than £2,400 in a year.
Getting to £30k of savings is not impossible, but does requires iron discipline and a very high savings rate.
@NoblePredictive
(likely voters)
2-WAY
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FULL FIELD
🟦 Harris: 47%
🟥 Trump: 47%
🟪 Oliver: 1%
https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1838559241516278115
NORTH CAROLINA GE:
@ElonPoll
🟦 Harris: 46%
🟥 Trump: 45%
🟪 Other: 3%
https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1838529505004073276
PENNSYLVANIA
🟦 Harris: 48%
🟥 Trump: 48%
🟪 Other: 1%
With leaners
🟦 Harris: 50%
🟥 Trump: 49%
GEORGIA
🟥 Trump: 50%
🟦 Harris: 47%
With leaners
🟥 Trump: 51%
🟦 Harris: 47%
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/crosstabs_2_american_thinker_pa_and_ga_september_19_22_2024
https://youtu.be/m4OaWee8bxs?si=kmHw4knSWIHqgBiB
John Apter allegedly said he wanted to “comfort” Lissie Harper, the widow of PC Andrew Harper, “in my hotel room” after the officer’s death in 2020.
Apter, who served as a constable with Hampshire Constabulary, is also accused of groping a younger female constable’s bottom on a work night out and telling a pregnant colleague “maybe you’ll get a bum now”.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/police-chief-made-sexual-joke-about-dead-officers-wife-j879qh3b8
It's truly one for the history books: right up there with Churchill's "We shall fight on the beaches" and MLK's "I Have a Dream."
Nothing says visionary leadership like SKS having a butcher's.
Superb. From start to finish.
steve richards
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The best line in the speech ‘Taking back control is a Labour argument’:
https://x.com/steverichards14/status/1838633075250733487
The only tiny downside is that the only bit they are showing or talking about is where he calls the hostages "sausages"
I genuinely think this will be the only thing most foreigners ever remember him for. Saying "sausages" instead of hostages
SAUSAGES
Or £10k each as its for a couple.
And yes, it does assume a few years living at home. Which is what all the teenagers I know do who get a job at 18 (and even more so for those who leave school at 16).
The art of the trade
How the sausage gets made
We just assume that it happens
But no one else is in the room where it happens
It's great if you're in a position to save for a 30k deposit (few are), it's even better if you've got family who can stump up the deposit (so, generational wealth).
If you don't have that ability, the war on landlords just means the pool of renters who are unable to buy are competing for a diminishing number of properties at ever higher prices, with the ever increasing regulatory burdens and red tape tacked onto the price of the rental.
We are at a point where the rental trap is more or less impossible to escape without family help, entrenching a two-tier system where those who are able to tap into generational wealth can get on the property ladder, while those without are screwed in perpetuity.
That's not good
Pity is worse than contempt
The budget though... Will it save their bacon, or will it be out of the frying pan into the fire?
After today I am less inclined to deride him because I now pity him and I don't think there is any way back from that, which is why I am looking at next leader bets
And yes she was being charged rent - I did give it back to her as a gifted deposit though..
Labour are middle class, middle managers who don't drink in pubs. Their Red Wall supporters will come to Reform.
https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1838322525614346488
Who knew???
Fuck. That's good
Labour could face a horrific pincer movement at the next GE
Reform in the Red Wall
The Tories in the rest of England and Wales
SNP in Scotland (already the Nats are again in the lead in the polls)
Lib Dems in a few rich seats where Remainers are angry that Starmer has done nothing about the SM/CU
Plus a few heavily Muslim seats lost to the new Corbyn-Palestine nutters
Taken together they really could go from a large majority to a calamitous defeat
We’ve been hiking the Blue Ridge Mountains, and came across a bear twice today. Thankfully both times in the car to and from, on the BRParkway, and not when walking in the woods with the dog.
The only way renters are hurt is if would-be landlords would have otherwise built new homes, but now don't.
However given we have so many restrictions on new buildings, that's not really an issue.
Liberalise construction and then the argument would be valid, but while construction is so massively restricted its not.
Farage is what he is. It is part of his appeal. He doesn't pretend to be a working class guy, nor does he pretend to be ultra-posh, nor does he affect to be anything other than - a certain kind of middle class Englishman who goes into the City and wears cords and Barbour but also has strong political views and enjoys a pint of a Sunday
What's wrong with membrillo?
As I stated above, landlords selling up is great for those who can afford a 30k deposit.
It kinda sucks for renters who can't.
May I suggest visiting a popular optician for some reading glasses?
Tho not as delicious as Colston Bassett stilton with Okanagan chili jam
Currently we've 3 of the 8 houses nearest us are empty - 1 is because the landlord threw the longstanding tenants out the other 2 are due to the final residents dying. All 3 require a lot of modernisation before anyone could really live in thwm
Thks