I suspect this will go on every Labour leaflet during the general election campaign

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Aye, Humza Yousaf is more fucked than a stepmom on pornhub.

Pact with Alba Party is price of Yousaf’s survival

Alex Salmond reveals his terms for backing the beleaguered first minister as no-confidence vote loom

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pact-with-alba-party-is-price-of-yousafs-survival-njfk8bbh7

Didn't Salmond try to to get people to vote SNP for the constituency gote, Alba for the regional vote last scottish election? Didn't seem to cut through at all at the time, a proper pact seems a bit much for the SNP to accept even though they are weaker now.

SandyRentool said:

Have we had this:

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 44% (+1)
CON: 22% (-4)
RFM: 13% (+2)
LDM: 9% (=)
GRN: 6% (-1)
SNP: 3% (+1)

Via @wethinkpolling, 25-26 Apr.

Raynergate rampers please explain.

EPG said:

bigjohnowls said:

Dan Poulter was the Conservative health minister who was responsible for selling Britain’s supplier of blood plasma to a private equity firm for £200m.

Given Labour’s commitment to expand privatisation in our NHS, the party seems like a perfect fit for him.

Then it appears that 90%+ of voters support privatisation in the NHS.

TheScreamingEagles said:

ohnotnow said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

RochdalePioneers said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

Absolutely hilarious:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0d5bae6e-c917-46a6-b839-050980739516?shareToken=952ae3ab68dd1227fce6b5ac1b4b419e

Scottish politics delivers once again.

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

Absolutely hilarious:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0d5bae6e-c917-46a6-b839-050980739516?shareToken=952ae3ab68dd1227fce6b5ac1b4b419e

Scottish politics delivers once again.

That’s absolutely spectacular. A reverse hostile takeover by Salmond. And as we know, he remains a spectacularly popular politician which is why he won so many votes last time out in his local patch…

I assume Useless will say no and go

I expect so. And then the SNP will put up someone else. Will Salmond maintain his "only if you do what I tell you" ultimatum? Because if he does, that someone else would also immediately fail.

Tempted to drive over the hill and lob a thank you card over his gate.

Scotland like the rest of UK needs elections

I'm doing more reading. Here is the problem for the SNP:
1. Yousaf has written a letter of unreal desperation to each party leader. Like this one sent to DRoss: https://twitter.com/PGibbano/status/1784278750760255509
2. If the Greens vote against, the balance of power is held by Ash Reagan. The greens not only will vote against Yousaf, but will also vote against anyone they dislike, again and again: https://twitter.com/SuzJamieson/status/1784229956907655676
3. There is a deal on offer from Salmond for Reagan's vote. But at a price (electoral pact with Salmond in charge) they cannot accept without losing SNP members defecting to the Greens or elsewhere

Yousless has done this. Demolished the deal with the Greens so badly that they will now vote against the SNP unless they get the whip hand. And the only other option is a deal with Alba, with the devil getting the whip hand.

Unless the Greens or Salmond back down, an election seems inevitable.

A .SCOT, .UK and .US election in the space of six months or so. Can you imagine the look of tired desperation on the hacks faces come November or so? It's just as well they never cover the rest of the world or they'd be truly knackered.

Spare a thought for the editor of a political betting site in those circumstances.


***Can you handle three massive elections at the same time?***

bigjohnowls said:

SandyRentool said:

Have we had this:

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 44% (+1)
CON: 22% (-4)
RFM: 13% (+2)
LDM: 9% (=)
GRN: 6% (-1)
SNP: 3% (+1)

Via @wethinkpolling, 25-26 Apr.

Raynergate rampers please explain.

Raynergate has never been a story

Tories are totally desperate.

Looks like they are going to get a tonking barring some black swan event

OnlyLivingBoy said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/27/tory-staff-running-network-of-anti-ulez-facebook-groups-riddled-with-racism-and-abuse

Christ, the Tories have completely lost the plot.

megasaur said:

bigjohnowls said:

SandyRentool said:

Have we had this:

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 44% (+1)
CON: 22% (-4)
RFM: 13% (+2)
LDM: 9% (=)
GRN: 6% (-1)
SNP: 3% (+1)

Via @wethinkpolling, 25-26 Apr.

Raynergate rampers please explain.

Raynergate has never been a story

Tories are totally desperate.

Looks like they are going to get a tonking barring some black swan event

The CGT stuff is indeed a dead duck. What may nail her is if she was getting the 25% single occupant council tax discount when she and her brother were allegedly living there.

kyf_100 said:

Leon said:

BlancheLivermore said:

Big day, and I'm rather pleased with myself

I had a tough start; actually the tough start began last night. Just as I went to bed a bit later than planned, a mass brawl kicked off in the plaza outside

There was a lot of shouting, smashing and clanging. I glanced out of the window and saw a large crowd of young men throwing bottles, chairs and tables at each other

I closed all the shutters and just tried to sleep. I got woken a few times by alternating violence and sirens, and there was still shouting outside when my alarm went off at half five

I put my head under the pillow and fell asleep for another hour, waking up to quiet. Fuck knows what happened, maybe just a normal Friday night in Astorga?

So I set off rather late, just after eight, feeling less than fully rested

The weather has been awful most of today; cloudy, cold, windy and wet - and even ten minutes of hail, during which I saw some English graffitti on the back of a road sign

"Grit your teeth and keep walking"

I did just that and managed to get just over fifty kilometres walked today, all the way to León

The weather cheered up. I got a lovely hotel room right in the centre, about three hundred yards from the Cathedral. I dropped my bag in my room and went to see the Cathedral (sadly closed, apparently has rather special stained glass ŵindows)

Now eating dinner in an excellent Asian restaurant, the top rated place on TripAdvisor, next door to my hotel!

I have another question. I’m doing a walking holiday for the gazette very soon. It’s in a lovely part of the world but - TBH - I find walking day after day quite dull. And I like walking. But I’m generally happy with a 1-3 hour schlep unless it’s absolutely compelling - like Paris in Decline the other day

How do you get over that? Do you listen to audiobooks? Do you go into some zen state? Or is is actually quite hard - step after step after step…

This is the kind of question that I think separates the drug people from the non drug people.

How do you do a walking holiday? Don't you get bored, just doing the same thing for seven hours on repeat?
Sorta the same question to, how do you cope with a five hour train journey? Well, you get high before you start (and top up in the bogs mid-journey if you feel it wearing off).
How do people cope with the supermarket without a xanax to make the crowds bearable? Apparently, normies can do it just fine.
The mind-numbing tedium of a day job without a dab of speed to make repetitive tasks seem satisfying.
The idea of taking a stroll along a country lane without a tab of acid to make the whole thing interesting.

Some people are built to find a seven hour walk from point A to point B interesting. Others, less so.

Leon said:

kyf_100 said:

Leon said:

BlancheLivermore said:

Big day, and I'm rather pleased with myself

I had a tough start; actually the tough start began last night. Just as I went to bed a bit later than planned, a mass brawl kicked off in the plaza outside

There was a lot of shouting, smashing and clanging. I glanced out of the window and saw a large crowd of young men throwing bottles, chairs and tables at each other

I closed all the shutters and just tried to sleep. I got woken a few times by alternating violence and sirens, and there was still shouting outside when my alarm went off at half five

I put my head under the pillow and fell asleep for another hour, waking up to quiet. Fuck knows what happened, maybe just a normal Friday night in Astorga?

So I set off rather late, just after eight, feeling less than fully rested

The weather has been awful most of today; cloudy, cold, windy and wet - and even ten minutes of hail, during which I saw some English graffitti on the back of a road sign

"Grit your teeth and keep walking"

I did just that and managed to get just over fifty kilometres walked today, all the way to León

The weather cheered up. I got a lovely hotel room right in the centre, about three hundred yards from the Cathedral. I dropped my bag in my room and went to see the Cathedral (sadly closed, apparently has rather special stained glass ŵindows)

Now eating dinner in an excellent Asian restaurant, the top rated place on TripAdvisor, next door to my hotel!

I have another question. I’m doing a walking holiday for the gazette very soon. It’s in a lovely part of the world but - TBH - I find walking day after day quite dull. And I like walking. But I’m generally happy with a 1-3 hour schlep unless it’s absolutely compelling - like Paris in Decline the other day

How do you get over that? Do you listen to audiobooks? Do you go into some zen state? Or is is actually quite hard - step after step after step…

This is the kind of question that I think separates the drug people from the non drug people.

How do you do a walking holiday? Don't you get bored, just doing the same thing for seven hours on repeat?
Sorta the same question to, how do you cope with a five hour train journey? Well, you get high before you start (and top up in the bogs mid-journey if you feel it wearing off).
How do people cope with the supermarket without a xanax to make the crowds bearable? Apparently, normies can do it just fine.
The mind-numbing tedium of a day job without a dab of speed to make repetitive tasks seem satisfying.
The idea of taking a stroll along a country lane without a tab of acid to make the whole thing interesting.

Some people are built to find a seven hour walk from point A to point B interesting. Others, less so.

ARE YOU IMPLYING I’M EASILY BORED???

Stuartinromford said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

legatus said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

RochdalePioneers said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

Absolutely hilarious:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0d5bae6e-c917-46a6-b839-050980739516?shareToken=952ae3ab68dd1227fce6b5ac1b4b419e

Scottish politics delivers once again.

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

Absolutely hilarious:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0d5bae6e-c917-46a6-b839-050980739516?shareToken=952ae3ab68dd1227fce6b5ac1b4b419e

Scottish politics delivers once again.

That’s absolutely spectacular. A reverse hostile takeover by Salmond. And as we know, he remains a spectacularly popular politician which is why he won so many votes last time out in his local patch…

I assume Useless will say no and go

I expect so. And then the SNP will put up someone else. Will Salmond maintain his "only if you do what I tell you" ultimatum? Because if he does, that someone else would also immediately fail.

Tempted to drive over the hill and lob a thank you card over his gate.

Scotland like the rest of UK needs elections

If my memory serves me correctly, a couple of years or so ago you - and quite a few others - were fairly dismissive of a poster on here - now long departed -who argued quite confidently that Labour could recover its former dominant position in Scotland.

Nobody could have foreseen the collapse of the SNP in such a spectacular fashion

Nobody did- the question is, could we have done? Should we have done?

Now the cracks are visible, it's blooming obvious that a party that straddles rural conservatives and urban progressives isn't stable. The fissure was there, held together by the promise of the Sindyref and whatever it was Sturgeon was doing.

The deal with the Greens, and the uber wokery that followed, probably made things worse, but the contradictions were there anyway.

And whichever way the SNP wave function collapses, it loses half its support. Only question is- which half?

Leon said:

kyf_100 said:

Leon said:

BlancheLivermore said:

Big day, and I'm rather pleased with myself

I had a tough start; actually the tough start began last night. Just as I went to bed a bit later than planned, a mass brawl kicked off in the plaza outside

There was a lot of shouting, smashing and clanging. I glanced out of the window and saw a large crowd of young men throwing bottles, chairs and tables at each other

I closed all the shutters and just tried to sleep. I got woken a few times by alternating violence and sirens, and there was still shouting outside when my alarm went off at half five

I put my head under the pillow and fell asleep for another hour, waking up to quiet. Fuck knows what happened, maybe just a normal Friday night in Astorga?

So I set off rather late, just after eight, feeling less than fully rested

The weather has been awful most of today; cloudy, cold, windy and wet - and even ten minutes of hail, during which I saw some English graffitti on the back of a road sign

"Grit your teeth and keep walking"

I did just that and managed to get just over fifty kilometres walked today, all the way to León

The weather cheered up. I got a lovely hotel room right in the centre, about three hundred yards from the Cathedral. I dropped my bag in my room and went to see the Cathedral (sadly closed, apparently has rather special stained glass ŵindows)

Now eating dinner in an excellent Asian restaurant, the top rated place on TripAdvisor, next door to my hotel!

I have another question. I’m doing a walking holiday for the gazette very soon. It’s in a lovely part of the world but - TBH - I find walking day after day quite dull. And I like walking. But I’m generally happy with a 1-3 hour schlep unless it’s absolutely compelling - like Paris in Decline the other day

How do you get over that? Do you listen to audiobooks? Do you go into some zen state? Or is is actually quite hard - step after step after step…

This is the kind of question that I think separates the drug people from the non drug people.

How do you do a walking holiday? Don't you get bored, just doing the same thing for seven hours on repeat?
Sorta the same question to, how do you cope with a five hour train journey? Well, you get high before you start (and top up in the bogs mid-journey if you feel it wearing off).
How do people cope with the supermarket without a xanax to make the crowds bearable? Apparently, normies can do it just fine.
The mind-numbing tedium of a day job without a dab of speed to make repetitive tasks seem satisfying.
The idea of taking a stroll along a country lane without a tab of acid to make the whole thing interesting.

Some people are built to find a seven hour walk from point A to point B interesting. Others, less so.

ARE YOU IMPLYING I’M EASILY BORED???

Alphabet_Soup said:

Leon said:

kyf_100 said:

Leon said:

BlancheLivermore said:

Big day, and I'm rather pleased with myself

I had a tough start; actually the tough start began last night. Just as I went to bed a bit later than planned, a mass brawl kicked off in the plaza outside

There was a lot of shouting, smashing and clanging. I glanced out of the window and saw a large crowd of young men throwing bottles, chairs and tables at each other

I closed all the shutters and just tried to sleep. I got woken a few times by alternating violence and sirens, and there was still shouting outside when my alarm went off at half five

I put my head under the pillow and fell asleep for another hour, waking up to quiet. Fuck knows what happened, maybe just a normal Friday night in Astorga?

So I set off rather late, just after eight, feeling less than fully rested

The weather has been awful most of today; cloudy, cold, windy and wet - and even ten minutes of hail, during which I saw some English graffitti on the back of a road sign

"Grit your teeth and keep walking"

I did just that and managed to get just over fifty kilometres walked today, all the way to León

The weather cheered up. I got a lovely hotel room right in the centre, about three hundred yards from the Cathedral. I dropped my bag in my room and went to see the Cathedral (sadly closed, apparently has rather special stained glass ŵindows)

Now eating dinner in an excellent Asian restaurant, the top rated place on TripAdvisor, next door to my hotel!

I have another question. I’m doing a walking holiday for the gazette very soon. It’s in a lovely part of the world but - TBH - I find walking day after day quite dull. And I like walking. But I’m generally happy with a 1-3 hour schlep unless it’s absolutely compelling - like Paris in Decline the other day

How do you get over that? Do you listen to audiobooks? Do you go into some zen state? Or is is actually quite hard - step after step after step…

This is the kind of question that I think separates the drug people from the non drug people.

How do you do a walking holiday? Don't you get bored, just doing the same thing for seven hours on repeat?
Sorta the same question to, how do you cope with a five hour train journey? Well, you get high before you start (and top up in the bogs mid-journey if you feel it wearing off).
How do people cope with the supermarket without a xanax to make the crowds bearable? Apparently, normies can do it just fine.
The mind-numbing tedium of a day job without a dab of speed to make repetitive tasks seem satisfying.
The idea of taking a stroll along a country lane without a tab of acid to make the whole thing interesting.

Some people are built to find a seven hour walk from point A to point B interesting. Others, less so.

ARE YOU IMPLYING I’M EASILY BORED???

On a brisk walk in rural Warks I reckon I can put a name to 50 wildflowers, 30 trees and 20 birds without slowing down to take out binoculars or a magnifying glass. I can't understand those who feel the need for ear buds or headphones. What on earth are they listening to that's more interesting? The real world is overwhelmingly fascinating.

Carnyx said:

megasaur said:

bigjohnowls said:

SandyRentool said:

Have we had this:

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 44% (+1)
CON: 22% (-4)
RFM: 13% (+2)
LDM: 9% (=)
GRN: 6% (-1)
SNP: 3% (+1)

Via @wethinkpolling, 25-26 Apr.

Raynergate rampers please explain.

Raynergate has never been a story

Tories are totally desperate.

Looks like they are going to get a tonking barring some black swan event

The CGT stuff is indeed a dead duck. What may nail her is if she was getting the 25% single occupant council tax discount when she and her brother were allegedly living there.

What's that, the fifth iteration?

Might as wel go straight to her forgetting to feed the school goldfish when she was at primary.

megasaur said:

Carnyx said:

megasaur said:

bigjohnowls said:

SandyRentool said:

Have we had this:

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 44% (+1)
CON: 22% (-4)
RFM: 13% (+2)
LDM: 9% (=)
GRN: 6% (-1)
SNP: 3% (+1)

Via @wethinkpolling, 25-26 Apr.

Raynergate rampers please explain.

Raynergate has never been a story

Tories are totally desperate.

Looks like they are going to get a tonking barring some black swan event

The CGT stuff is indeed a dead duck. What may nail her is if she was getting the 25% single occupant council tax discount when she and her brother were allegedly living there.

What's that, the fifth iteration?

Might as wel go straight to her forgetting to feed the school goldfish when she was at primary.

Wrong. CGT is complicated and boring and doesn't register with most people. Council tax everyone pays and everyone resents welshing on, because welshing puts their own bills up

I am not saying she deserves it, I am saying what will register with the electorate.

Carnyx said:

megasaur said:

Carnyx said:

megasaur said:

bigjohnowls said:

SandyRentool said:

Have we had this:

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 44% (+1)
CON: 22% (-4)
RFM: 13% (+2)
LDM: 9% (=)
GRN: 6% (-1)
SNP: 3% (+1)

Via @wethinkpolling, 25-26 Apr.

Raynergate rampers please explain.

Raynergate has never been a story

Tories are totally desperate.

Looks like they are going to get a tonking barring some black swan event

The CGT stuff is indeed a dead duck. What may nail her is if she was getting the 25% single occupant council tax discount when she and her brother were allegedly living there.

What's that, the fifth iteration?

Might as wel go straight to her forgetting to feed the school goldfish when she was at primary.

Wrong. CGT is complicated and boring and doesn't register with most people. Council tax everyone pays and everyone resents welshing on, because welshing puts their own bills up

I am not saying she deserves it, I am saying what will register with the electorate.

Missing the point. Trying 4-5 times (usually) means there's nothing at all in it in the first place. All they are doing is hoping that she, like most people, hasn't kept every single document from that period.

rottenborough said:

George Mann
@sgfmann
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The Sunday Telegraph: Tory rebels on warpath after MP defects to Labour

#TomorrowsPapersToday

Andy_JS said:

Just checked and Poulter abstained on the Rwanda vote. Interesting he didn't vote against.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2024-04-22/division/59BDF527-62E7-480C-9BBF-D509DC820636/SafetyOfRwanda(AsylumAndImmigration)Bill?outputType=Names

nico679 said:

Starmer pledges to keep the triple lock pension for 5 years . The front page of the DE . The world is turning on its axis when they give a positive front page for Labour.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

It's over and this is not new news

Time for elections

turbotubbs said:

nico679 said:

Starmer pledges to keep the triple lock pension for 5 years . The front page of the DE . The world is turning on its axis when they give a positive front page for Labour.

Bloody pensioners! Will no one think of the working man? My father is approaching more time as a retired policeman than he actually served (28 years vs 30). He has no need of the damned triple lock.

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

Except they don't have the numbers with MPs to remove him and there is no credible alternative in Parliament who would make much difference now.

Better off uniting behind Rishi, getting inflation down and immigration under control with the new Visa salary cap and Rwanda agreement

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

Except they don't have the numbers with MPs to remove him and there is no credible alternative in Parliament who would make much difference now.

Better off uniting behind Rishi, getting inflation down and immigration under control with the new Visa salary cap and Rwanda agreement

dixiedean said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

It's over and this is not new news

Time for elections

Several utterly wasted months, while CCHQ initiated a series of cunning plans which have faceplanted, too late.
Enough.

Malmesbury said:

LostPassword said:

On the Irish news this evening a story about shortages in hundreds of different prescription drugs, mirroring stories that have existed for some time in Britain.

What's going on? I would have expected the market to react to these shortages and increase supply. Why isn't that happening?

Global supply chains are fucked.

It takes years to setup and certify a new pharmaceutical production plant.

Did you know that as part of The War On Drugs, production of certain medicines in the US is capped by the FDA. So you can’t make more. By law.

There are many layers to the fun. But it come down to this - simply making more medicine is close to impossible in the short term. Verboten.

dixiedean said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

It is interesting that "saving Britain" seems to be entirely concomitant with saving the Conservative and Unionist Party.
Patriots my arse.

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

Except they don't have the numbers with MPs to remove him and there is no credible alternative in Parliament who would make much difference now.

Better off uniting behind Rishi, getting inflation down and immigration under control with the new Visa salary cap and Rwanda agreement

Mortimer said:

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

Except they don't have the numbers with MPs to remove him and there is no credible alternative in Parliament who would make much difference now.

Better off uniting behind Rishi, getting inflation down and immigration under control with the new Visa salary cap and Rwanda agreement

Rishi will be gone by end of May. After catastrophic results next Thursday....

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

Foxy said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

An interesting poll from BMG suggests that it's dangerous to switch. Changing leader to recapture the lost Con 2019 voters risks annoying the current Conservatives

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/sunak-braverman-johnson-tory-voters-3027889

Pro_Rata said:

I wonder, with the new wave of SNP and Tory meltdowns, whether anyone on these pages had ever commented on how lucky a general SKS is?

Andy_JS said:

"Rishi Sunak says migrants going to Ireland shows Rwanda scheme is working as a deterrent

Ireland's deputy prime minister has said migrants who arrived in the UK on small boats are crossing from Northern Ireland to the Republic. Speaking to Sky's Trevor Phillips, Rishi Sunak says that it shows the deterrent is working.

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815

Luckyguy1983 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

Except they don't have the numbers with MPs to remove him and there is no credible alternative in Parliament who would make much difference now.

Better off uniting behind Rishi, getting inflation down and immigration under control with the new Visa salary cap and Rwanda agreement

Hopefully a enough Tory MPs have more political nous than you. They could hardly have less.

To be fair @HYUFD has been pretty much spot on with his analysis of the conservative party recently whereas the Johnson Truss Braverman supporters are in denial just how objectional they are to the electorate

Both you and Hyufd (and a few other numpties who it's kinder not to name) assured everyone that it was vital to get Sunak into number 10 to save the Tories and win the next election (lol). When it became clear the polls were going in the wrong direction, it was about keeping Sunak to 'stave off a bad defeat'. Then it was, 'It's going to be a really bad defeat, but it would have been a worse one without Sunak.'. Now it's 'it's too late to change leader and hardly anyone polls any better'.

I wouldn't mind, but some of us said how utterly useless he was from day dot, and the Tory members could see in the hustings that he had less charisma and communication ability than Truss, which is saying something.

And still there isn't an ounce of humility from the Sunak-rampers.

viewcode said:

Andy_JS said:

"Rishi Sunak says migrants going to Ireland shows Rwanda scheme is working as a deterrent

Ireland's deputy prime minister has said migrants who arrived in the UK on small boats are crossing from Northern Ireland to the Republic. Speaking to Sky's Trevor Phillips, Rishi Sunak says that it shows the deterrent is working.

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815

I'm not sure about this. How did they get to NI? Are they being transported by the UK from their landing place (English south coast) to NI? Why are they going from NI to RoI? NI's not that bad.

Andy_JS said:

"Rishi Sunak says migrants going to Ireland shows Rwanda scheme is working as a deterrent

Ireland's deputy prime minister has said migrants who arrived in the UK on small boats are crossing from Northern Ireland to the Republic. Speaking to Sky's Trevor Phillips, Rishi Sunak says that it shows the deterrent is working.

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815

Jim_Miller said:

Are Gazans beginning to think more rationally? Perhaps:

"More than six months into the war in Gaza and with dimming hopes for a cease-fire deal, Palestinians there are growing more critical of Hamas, which some of them blame for the months-long conflict that has destroyed the territory — and their lives.
. . .
But while the majority of Palestinians in Gaza blame Israel for their suffering, according to polling conducted in March, they also appear to be turning their ire toward the militants. In interviews with more than a dozen residents of Gaza, people said they resent Hamas for the attacks in Israel and — war-weary and desperate to fulfill their basic needs — just want to see peace as soon as possible."
source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/27/gaza-hamas-public-support-israel/

About 100,000 Gazans, according to another source, have left the strip.

(One of the lessons that still needs to be learned by much of the world is that terrorist attacks almost always make life worse for those who support the terrorists.)

Andy_JS said:

More on this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68914399

"Rwanda plan: Irish government wants to send asylum seekers back to UK

The UK government's Rwanda plan seeks to deter people from crossing the English Channel in small boats
The Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) Simon Harris has asked Ireland's justice minister to bring legislation to cabinet to enable asylum seekers to be sent back to the UK.

Helen McEntee has revealed that 80% of recent arrivals to the Republic came from the UK across the Irish border.

Tánaiste (deputy prime minister) Micheál Martin said the UK's Rwanda policy was already impacting Ireland."

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

@camillahmturner

🚨 EXC: Tory rebels plot ‘100 Days to Save Britain’ including plan to oust Rishi Sunak as leader

One Tory rebel told The Telegraph: “The reality is that we are facing an extinction-level event.”

“It’s for colleagues to decide if they want to go down with the sinking ship,” they added.

Except they don't have the numbers with MPs to remove him and there is no credible alternative in Parliament who would make much difference now.

Better off uniting behind Rishi, getting inflation down and immigration under control with the new Visa salary cap and Rwanda agreement

Hopefully a enough Tory MPs have more political nous than you. They could hardly have less.

To be fair @HYUFD has been pretty much spot on with his analysis of the conservative party recently whereas the Johnson Truss Braverman supporters are in denial just how objectional they are to the electorate

Both you and Hyufd (and a few other numpties who it's kinder not to name) assured everyone that it was vital to get Sunak into number 10 to save the Tories and win the next election (lol). When it became clear the polls were going in the wrong direction, it was about keeping Sunak to 'stave off a bad defeat'. Then it was, 'It's going to be a really bad defeat, but it would have been a worse one without Sunak.'. Now it's 'it's too late to change leader and hardly anyone polls any better'.

I wouldn't mind, but some of us said how utterly useless he was from day dot, and the Tory members could see in the hustings that he had less charisma and communication ability than Truss, which is saying something.

And still there isn't an ounce of humility from the Sunak-rampers.

The humility should be from the Johnson Truss rampers who destroyed the credibility of the conservative party and I expect @HYUFD has done far more for his party then many others

Andy_JS said:

More on this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68914399

"Rwanda plan: Irish government wants to send asylum seekers back to UK

The UK government's Rwanda plan seeks to deter people from crossing the English Channel in small boats
The Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) Simon Harris has asked Ireland's justice minister to bring legislation to cabinet to enable asylum seekers to be sent back to the UK.

Helen McEntee has revealed that 80% of recent arrivals to the Republic came from the UK across the Irish border.

Tánaiste (deputy prime minister) Micheál Martin said the UK's Rwanda policy was already impacting Ireland."

Donkeys said:

Andy_JS said:

More on this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68914399

"Rwanda plan: Irish government wants to send asylum seekers back to UK

The UK government's Rwanda plan seeks to deter people from crossing the English Channel in small boats
The Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) Simon Harris has asked Ireland's justice minister to bring legislation to cabinet to enable asylum seekers to be sent back to the UK.

Helen McEntee has revealed that 80% of recent arrivals to the Republic came from the UK across the Irish border.

Tánaiste (deputy prime minister) Micheál Martin said the UK's Rwanda policy was already impacting Ireland."

But is Britain a safe country for the migrants from an Irish legal point of view if they will (or may) be put on planes and flown to Rwanda?