Starmer is expected to be better than Johnson et al – politicalbetting.com
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Why will we need politicians, surely the AI can do their jobs just like it can most others?Andy_JS said:
Maybe people will go back to using town hall meetings as their way of choosing which politicians to support.Leon said:
I am genuinely unsure that politics can continue, as we know it, in the context of this technologyDecrepiterJohnL said:
And less developed countries.Leon said:This is NOT an AI post, this is an actual politics and betting post, relating to tech
Check this fake video, made from one single virtual photo of a non existent human, and a three second clip of audio. Now from that Microsoft can make almost completely convincing fake video, saying whatever words they want her to say
The next elections are going to be flooded with this tech, with deepfakes, with scenes of politicians saying shit they didn't say, or stuff they should have said, or Putin saying he sexually loves Ed Davey, and it will be entirely convincing (because, even if you can just spot the odd tiny glitch in this video, the tech is only going to get better and better)
The first vid of the blonde woman is particularly WOW
https://x.com/OrctonAI/status/1781333110681923781
My takeaway from this, for politics and betting is that the side with the most credulous voters will gain. One suspects that is Trump voters in the USA1 -
I expect even more cases will come to light. It’s going to be a very ugly election campaign . There seems to be more public sympathy for Rayner going off last nights QT where the consensus seemed to be it was the Tories smearing and attacking a working class woman . Menzies could pass for an accountant with a golf membership so was deemed persona non grata .JosiasJessop said:I await those who are complaining the police are wasting time investigating Rayner saying the same about Menzies...
"Lancashire Police have said they are reviewing information about allegations against suspended Tory MP Mark Menzies.
Labour wrote to police on Friday morning calling for an investigation."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-688586040 -
The police were unequivocally wrong to threaten arrest. However its not don't come into London, its dont try and walk through barracades to cross the street where people are marching. It would be the same if someone was trying to cross the street through barracades during the London marathon on Sunday.ThomasNashe said:
Being Jewish very much is the issue as far as the Met is concerned. The message is if you’re Jewish don’t come into London when there is a demo happening.Donkeys said:
No. The dividing line should be accepted to be about Gaza. Here it is:ThomasNashe said:
That is absolutely effing appalling. I can't believe I'd ever see anything like that in this country.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
Enough. This has to stop - and whatever you think about what's happening in Gaza (which has no relevance to the question) - it is time we all came together to oppose this upsurge in antisemitism in our own country.
Goodies: those who support the Palestinians against genocide, which includes many Jews.
Baddies: those who support genocide against the Palestinians, which also includes many Jews.
Jews aren't the issue. The Jewish supremacist regime that's carrying out the genocide is certainly the issue.
You won't like this, @ThomasNashe, but the above way of looking at things directly implies "Don't hassle anyone for being Jewish".
Of the Jews who support the Palestinians and oppose the existence of the supremacist regime, some organise putting their Jewish heritage up front, including some who are religious, some don't. All are welcome. See Neturei Karta for a religious group that, the last I heard, supported the IRM ("Hamas").1 -
Labour viral ads seem to be as poor as the Tories lame efforts
https://x.com/uklabour/status/1781285090032509415?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q0 -
A couple of interesting points on the NY Trump trial.
1 - If there is a hung jury (which requires just one juror not to be able to agree the other eleven), the Prosecutor is able to retry the trial. This is unusual (3-5%) but not unknown. Two retrials are known, but in NY that is the unwritten normally-accepted limit.
https://www.hklaw.com/-/media/files/insights/publications/2022/05/law360--can-and-should-a-court-limit-repeated-retrials.pdf
2 - If the defendant decides to testify, the prosecution can introduce a lot of information about past acts and offences - which have been identified to the Court before start of the trial, and judged acceptable disclosures by the judge. The list of the for Trump is very long and includes things such as past crimes, lying on oath etc etc etc - enough to sink his credibility.
If the defendant does not testify, the list is much shorter.
Therefore I suggest Trump will not testify.2 -
I'm hoping you're jesting me - and I'm pretty sure you are - because it would rather freak me out. No way should you and I be voting the same way. Something has gone very wrong in our political system if that were to happen.Leon said:
Every time you say this I become more determined to vote Starmer just to freak you out. He’s gonna win anyway and he’s bound to win in Camden. So if the only fun I can have is perturbing you I might as wellkinabalu said:
Could be me seeing what I want to see but I sense your Labour vote might be going astray?Leon said:The EU makes an apparently generous offer. A form of limited free movement for young people. Ok maybe the details need examining - but why not return the favour with some warm words? “This could potentially be very interesting. We need to see the small print but we want a good close relationship, repair the ill will of Brexit, blah blah”
Instead BOTH parties dismiss it out of hand. “Fuck off”
Apart from anything else it’s so utterly graceless and charmless. Starmer is going to be a disaster
There'll be a Reform candidate in Camden. Perhaps a non-joke one.0 -
It could also be an attempt to obtain money by deception if there were in fact no bad people etc.noneoftheabove said:
The paying off bad people - at the police level he should be treated as a potential victim and it is worthy of an initial investigation. Not least for national security reasons.JosiasJessop said:I await those who are complaining the police are wasting time investigating Rayner saying the same about Menzies...
"Lancashire Police have said they are reviewing information about allegations against suspended Tory MP Mark Menzies.
Labour wrote to police on Friday morning calling for an investigation."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68858604
The campaign funds/medical bills - is that electoral commission or commons standards rather than police? I'd have thought so.0 -
He surely can't testify anyway? He would perjure himself and commit contempt of court countless times without even realising it.MattW said:A couple of interesting points on the NY Trump trial.
1 - If there is a hung jury (which requires just one juror not to be able to agree the other eleven), the Prosecutor is able to retry the trial. This is unusual (3-5%) but not unknown. Two retrials are known, but in NY that is the unwritten limit:
https://www.hklaw.com/-/media/files/insights/publications/2022/05/law360--can-and-should-a-court-limit-repeated-retrials.pdf
2 - If the defendant decides to testify, the prosecution can introduce a lot of information about past acts and offences - which have been identified to the Court before start of the trial, and judged acceptable disclosures by the judge. The list of the for Trump is very long and includes things such as past crimes, lying on oath etc etc etc - enough to sink his credibility.
If the defendant does not testify, the list is much shorter.
Therefore I suggest Trump will not testify.1 -
He said ‘you’re obviously Jewish’. That was the problem as far as plod was concerned. As I said effing appalling.noneoftheabove said:
The police were unequivocally wrong to threaten arrest. However its not don't come into London, its dont try and walk through barracades to cross the street where people are marching. It would be the same if someone was trying to cross the street through barracades during the London marathon on Sunday.ThomasNashe said:
Being Jewish very much is the issue as far as the Met is concerned. The message is if you’re Jewish don’t come into London when there is a demo happening.Donkeys said:
No. The dividing line should be accepted to be about Gaza. Here it is:ThomasNashe said:
That is absolutely effing appalling. I can't believe I'd ever see anything like that in this country.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
Enough. This has to stop - and whatever you think about what's happening in Gaza (which has no relevance to the question) - it is time we all came together to oppose this upsurge in antisemitism in our own country.
Goodies: those who support the Palestinians against genocide, which includes many Jews.
Baddies: those who support genocide against the Palestinians, which also includes many Jews.
Jews aren't the issue. The Jewish supremacist regime that's carrying out the genocide is certainly the issue.
You won't like this, @ThomasNashe, but the above way of looking at things directly implies "Don't hassle anyone for being Jewish".
Of the Jews who support the Palestinians and oppose the existence of the supremacist regime, some organise putting their Jewish heritage up front, including some who are religious, some don't. All are welcome. See Neturei Karta for a religious group that, the last I heard, supported the IRM ("Hamas").0 -
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash0 -
It would have been inadvisable regardless I suspect.MattW said:A couple of interesting points on the NY Trump trial.
1 - If there is a hung jury (which requires just one juror not to be able to agree the other eleven), the Prosecutor is able to retry the trial. This is unusual (3-5%) but not unknown. Two retrials are known, but in NY that is the unwritten normally-accepted limit.
https://www.hklaw.com/-/media/files/insights/publications/2022/05/law360--can-and-should-a-court-limit-repeated-retrials.pdf
2 - If the defendant decides to testify, the prosecution can introduce a lot of information about past acts and offences - which have been identified to the Court before start of the trial, and judged acceptable disclosures by the judge. The list of the for Trump is very long and includes things such as past crimes, lying on oath etc etc etc - enough to sink his credibility.
If the defendant does not testify, the list is much shorter.
Therefore I suggest Trump will not testify.
Just hammer home that the key witnesses are unreliable, that it is trivial, and that may itself be enough to get at least one.0 -
Agreed that part is appalling. I doubt that was the main problem, from the clip it looks like the guy wanted to cross a barricaded street during a march. Whether that is reasonable or not is probably up to the police to decide to keep the peace, same as it would be during the marathon. The environmental campaigners were threatening to disrupt last years marathon and police said would make arrests if it happened.ThomasNashe said:
He said ‘you’re obviously Jewish’. That was the problem as far as plod was concerned. As I said effing appalling.noneoftheabove said:
The police were unequivocally wrong to threaten arrest. However its not don't come into London, its dont try and walk through barracades to cross the street where people are marching. It would be the same if someone was trying to cross the street through barracades during the London marathon on Sunday.ThomasNashe said:
Being Jewish very much is the issue as far as the Met is concerned. The message is if you’re Jewish don’t come into London when there is a demo happening.Donkeys said:
No. The dividing line should be accepted to be about Gaza. Here it is:ThomasNashe said:
That is absolutely effing appalling. I can't believe I'd ever see anything like that in this country.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
Enough. This has to stop - and whatever you think about what's happening in Gaza (which has no relevance to the question) - it is time we all came together to oppose this upsurge in antisemitism in our own country.
Goodies: those who support the Palestinians against genocide, which includes many Jews.
Baddies: those who support genocide against the Palestinians, which also includes many Jews.
Jews aren't the issue. The Jewish supremacist regime that's carrying out the genocide is certainly the issue.
You won't like this, @ThomasNashe, but the above way of looking at things directly implies "Don't hassle anyone for being Jewish".
Of the Jews who support the Palestinians and oppose the existence of the supremacist regime, some organise putting their Jewish heritage up front, including some who are religious, some don't. All are welcome. See Neturei Karta for a religious group that, the last I heard, supported the IRM ("Hamas").0 -
I have only seen a clip of this on twitter and it appears, on the surface, quite damning.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
However I guess we need to hear from the met and get the wider context.
Have to say wouldn’t put anything past the met. They seem to openly favour the Palestinian protesters.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-7912611 -
If he were anyone else he'd probably already be locked up for interference with witnesses and potential jurors. He's pushed well past normally accepted defendant behaviour, I'm not sure how the judge - who by most accounts is a pretty by the book and firm judge - is going to be able to manage when everyone is still reluctant to feed Trump's martyr complex by jailing him, when what he says and does would often see that happen.noneoftheabove said:
He surely can't testify anyway? He would perjure himself and commit contempt of court countless times without even realising it.MattW said:A couple of interesting points on the NY Trump trial.
1 - If there is a hung jury (which requires just one juror not to be able to agree the other eleven), the Prosecutor is able to retry the trial. This is unusual (3-5%) but not unknown. Two retrials are known, but in NY that is the unwritten limit:
https://www.hklaw.com/-/media/files/insights/publications/2022/05/law360--can-and-should-a-court-limit-repeated-retrials.pdf
2 - If the defendant decides to testify, the prosecution can introduce a lot of information about past acts and offences - which have been identified to the Court before start of the trial, and judged acceptable disclosures by the judge. The list of the for Trump is very long and includes things such as past crimes, lying on oath etc etc etc - enough to sink his credibility.
If the defendant does not testify, the list is much shorter.
Therefore I suggest Trump will not testify.1 -
The general point about the Met is pretty significant. They are a badly run organisation with an institutional leadership that sees genuinely accepting wrongdoing as anathema, paying lip service if even that to serious problems, and more than their fair share of bad people. So it becomes very easy to believe just about anything.Taz said:
I have only seen a clip of this on twitter and it appears, on the surface, quite damning.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
However I guess we need to hear from the met and get the wider context.
Have to say wouldn’t put anything past the met. They seem to openly favour the Palestinian protesters.1 -
Times Radio on Youtube:
"In 1770, British explorer James Cook made a significant discovery during his voyage in the Pacific Ocean. What notable landmass did Captain Cook first sight during this expedition?"
The options:
Hawaii
New Zealand
Tahaiti
Australia.
They think the correct answer is Australia...0 -
Nominative determinism.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don Snoreleone.Scott_xP said:@RpsAgainstTrump
BREAKING
Donald Trump fell asleep in court at his hush money trial, Maggie Haberman reports.
This is the third time #SleepyDon has fallen asleep in court this week.
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Interesting to note that Starmer's vote in Holborn & St Pancras is predicted to only increase from 66% to 68% according to the Economist's new election forecast.kinabalu said:
Could be me seeing what I want to see but I sense your Labour vote might be going astray?Leon said:The EU makes an apparently generous offer. A form of limited free movement for young people. Ok maybe the details need examining - but why not return the favour with some warm words? “This could potentially be very interesting. We need to see the small print but we want a good close relationship, repair the ill will of Brexit, blah blah”
Instead BOTH parties dismiss it out of hand. “Fuck off”
Apart from anything else it’s so utterly graceless and charmless. Starmer is going to be a disaster
https://www.economist.com/interactive/uk-general-election/forecast0 -
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During the latter stages of the Peace Process (TM) there was an issue with a school. A Catholic Primary School was located such that the way to school was down a road next to a Protestant area.ThomasNashe said:
He said ‘you’re obviously Jewish’. That was the problem as far as plod was concerned. As I said effing appalling.noneoftheabove said:
The police were unequivocally wrong to threaten arrest. However its not don't come into London, its dont try and walk through barracades to cross the street where people are marching. It would be the same if someone was trying to cross the street through barracades during the London marathon on Sunday.ThomasNashe said:
Being Jewish very much is the issue as far as the Met is concerned. The message is if you’re Jewish don’t come into London when there is a demo happening.Donkeys said:
No. The dividing line should be accepted to be about Gaza. Here it is:ThomasNashe said:
That is absolutely effing appalling. I can't believe I'd ever see anything like that in this country.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
Enough. This has to stop - and whatever you think about what's happening in Gaza (which has no relevance to the question) - it is time we all came together to oppose this upsurge in antisemitism in our own country.
Goodies: those who support the Palestinians against genocide, which includes many Jews.
Baddies: those who support genocide against the Palestinians, which also includes many Jews.
Jews aren't the issue. The Jewish supremacist regime that's carrying out the genocide is certainly the issue.
You won't like this, @ThomasNashe, but the above way of looking at things directly implies "Don't hassle anyone for being Jewish".
Of the Jews who support the Palestinians and oppose the existence of the supremacist regime, some organise putting their Jewish heritage up front, including some who are religious, some don't. All are welcome. See Neturei Karta for a religious group that, the last I heard, supported the IRM ("Hamas").
Being offensively Catholic in front of Protestants put off the locals. Who threw things and shouted crap. There was full on rioting as well…
The Police didn’t arrest the Catholic parents and their children for being Catholic in a built up area. Or for stepping on cracks in the pavement.
They lined the road with armoured Land Rovers to form a protective wall. Then, the Chief Constable of Northern Ireland, in dress uniform*, led the group of parents and children to the school.
Because, as he put it, “they were exercising their right to walk upon the Queens highway”
That’s the stuff I pay my taxes for.
*other ranks wore full riot gear, including fireproof boiler suits.3 -
Everyone knows that the right answer is that he finally discovered his gender.JosiasJessop said:Times Radio on Youtube:
"In 1770, British explorer James Cook made a significant discovery during his voyage in the Pacific Ocean. What notable landmass did Captain Cook first sight during this expedition?"
The options:
Hawaii
New Zealand
Tahaiti
Australia.
They think the correct answer is Australia...4 -
Looks like there’s been a self-immolation outside the Trump trial.0
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Probably, if you have C1/D1 on your license.kle4 said:
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash0 -
I'll get an exemption.kle4 said:
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash0 -
I’m very definitely pro-Israel (not happy with what Netanyahu has done however but don’t want to get back into that argument) and will reflexively stick up for Jews fiercely but I think this situation from the clip I’ve seen was the police acting correctly.Taz said:
I have only seen a clip of this on twitter and it appears, on the surface, quite damning.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
However I guess we need to hear from the met and get the wider context.
Have to say wouldn’t put anything past the met. They seem to openly favour the Palestinian protesters.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-791261
There was an angry march going past and some chap who was clearly identifying as Jewish wanted to cross through it. In an ideal world he should have been free to but we all know that it would have kicked off and then who knows how bad it would have got for him, marchers and the police.
The police or stewards drag fans from rival teams out of seating areas at matches because that one person can cause a huge problem. This was really not so different.
So again, in an ideal world he should have been allowed and been safe to go anywhere but I’m afraid I think he knew what he was doing and was trying to antagonise or make a point which wasn’t clever.1 -
I think the PC will be getting some words of advice, about how to be a little less forthcoming.ThomasNashe said:
He said ‘you’re obviously Jewish’. That was the problem as far as plod was concerned. As I said effing appalling.noneoftheabove said:
The police were unequivocally wrong to threaten arrest. However its not don't come into London, its dont try and walk through barracades to cross the street where people are marching. It would be the same if someone was trying to cross the street through barracades during the London marathon on Sunday.ThomasNashe said:
Being Jewish very much is the issue as far as the Met is concerned. The message is if you’re Jewish don’t come into London when there is a demo happening.Donkeys said:
No. The dividing line should be accepted to be about Gaza. Here it is:ThomasNashe said:
That is absolutely effing appalling. I can't believe I'd ever see anything like that in this country.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
Enough. This has to stop - and whatever you think about what's happening in Gaza (which has no relevance to the question) - it is time we all came together to oppose this upsurge in antisemitism in our own country.
Goodies: those who support the Palestinians against genocide, which includes many Jews.
Baddies: those who support genocide against the Palestinians, which also includes many Jews.
Jews aren't the issue. The Jewish supremacist regime that's carrying out the genocide is certainly the issue.
You won't like this, @ThomasNashe, but the above way of looking at things directly implies "Don't hassle anyone for being Jewish".
Of the Jews who support the Palestinians and oppose the existence of the supremacist regime, some organise putting their Jewish heritage up front, including some who are religious, some don't. All are welcome. See Neturei Karta for a religious group that, the last I heard, supported the IRM ("Hamas").
Could he not have dealt with it as "an action likely to cause a breach of the peace" under common law? If I have it right, either party can be treated as a potential cause.0 -
Someone desperate to delay his trial for him, a loony anti-Trump protested, or unrelated person taking advantage of lots of attention nearby? Sad situation either way.williamglenn said:Looks like there’s been a self-immolation outside the Trump trial.
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The Met statement is unbelievably banal and meaningless.kle4 said:
The general point about the Met is pretty significant. They are a badly run organisation with an institutional leadership that sees genuinely accepting wrongdoing as anathema, paying lip service if even that to serious problems, and more than their fair share of bad people. So it becomes very easy to believe just about anything.Taz said:
I have only seen a clip of this on twitter and it appears, on the surface, quite damning.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
However I guess we need to hear from the met and get the wider context.
Have to say wouldn’t put anything past the met. They seem to openly favour the Palestinian protesters.
In a statement, the Met said they were aware of the video and "fully acknowledge the worry it has caused, not only to those featured, but also anyone who watches it".
The force said: "We recognise the conflict between Israel and Hamas continues to be an issue of concern for many Londoners, and this includes the regular protests and marches in central London.
"Everyone has the right to travel throughout the capital in safety."0 -
The Trump trial gets even more tragically bizarre:
"Just moments ago, a young man doused himself in a liquid and lit himself on fire in the park in front of the courthouse, after throwing coloured pamphlets in the air."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-688415350 -
I've not heard of those.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll get an exemption.kle4 said:
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash
You'd be better off with a Grenadier. As British as Napoleon and none of your electric wokery.0 -
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Cross_disputeMalmesbury said:A
During the latter stages of the Peace Process (TM) there was an issue with a school. A Catholic Primary School was located such that the way to school was down a road next to a Protestant area.ThomasNashe said:
He said ‘you’re obviously Jewish’. That was the problem as far as plod was concerned. As I said effing appalling.noneoftheabove said:
The police were unequivocally wrong to threaten arrest. However its not don't come into London, its dont try and walk through barracades to cross the street where people are marching. It would be the same if someone was trying to cross the street through barracades during the London marathon on Sunday.ThomasNashe said:
Being Jewish very much is the issue as far as the Met is concerned. The message is if you’re Jewish don’t come into London when there is a demo happening.Donkeys said:
No. The dividing line should be accepted to be about Gaza. Here it is:ThomasNashe said:
That is absolutely effing appalling. I can't believe I'd ever see anything like that in this country.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
Enough. This has to stop - and whatever you think about what's happening in Gaza (which has no relevance to the question) - it is time we all came together to oppose this upsurge in antisemitism in our own country.
Goodies: those who support the Palestinians against genocide, which includes many Jews.
Baddies: those who support genocide against the Palestinians, which also includes many Jews.
Jews aren't the issue. The Jewish supremacist regime that's carrying out the genocide is certainly the issue.
You won't like this, @ThomasNashe, but the above way of looking at things directly implies "Don't hassle anyone for being Jewish".
Of the Jews who support the Palestinians and oppose the existence of the supremacist regime, some organise putting their Jewish heritage up front, including some who are religious, some don't. All are welcome. See Neturei Karta for a religious group that, the last I heard, supported the IRM ("Hamas").
Being offensively Catholic in front of Protestants put off the locals. Who threw things and shouted crap. There was full on rioting as well…
The Police didn’t arrest the Catholic parents and their children for being Catholic in a built up area. Or for stepping on cracks in the pavement.
They lined the road with armoured Land Rovers to form a protective wall. Then, the Chief Constable of Northern Ireland, in dress uniform*, led the group of parents and children to the school.
Because, as he put it, “they were exercising their right to walk upon the Queens highway”
That’s the stuff I pay my taxes for.
*other ranks wore full riot gear, including fireproof boiler suits.
This? No mention of the dress uniform...0 -
I have visited the Captain Cook museum in Whitby.JosiasJessop said:Times Radio on Youtube:
"In 1770, British explorer James Cook made a significant discovery during his voyage in the Pacific Ocean. What notable landmass did Captain Cook first sight during this expedition?"
The options:
Hawaii
New Zealand
Tahaiti
Australia.
They think the correct answer is Australia...
Space is given to his expedition to Kamchatka, which is rarely mentioned in popular culture about him.
Willaim Bligh served under him on this 3rd expedition.0 -
Both mine were miners, smoked and got pneumoconiosis. Yet lived to be 89 and 92.Mexicanpete said:
Yes, my Grandad had yellow fingers and he died of cancer and heart disease, granted in his eighties and he'd been a career miner. I don't suppose the jeopardy of smoking is quite the same when one spent their days for forty years breathing in coal dust.kinabalu said:
I've had phases of them in my (long) smoking career too. Can be a satisfying ritual. And MUCH cheaper. Downsides are your fingers go yellow and you get tobacco caught in your teeth. You never saw that with Humphrey Bogart or Lauren Bacall, did you.Mexicanpete said:
My grandad used to smoke roll ups. He even had a little machine to do the rolling. Not a hint of a wokerati filter mind.kinabalu said:
Yes. Most heavy smokers go the "rollie" route, I'd have thought, to keep the cost down.Northern_Al said:
Smokers typically smoke 40 a day? Evidence? I don't think so - only a small minority of chain smokers. 40 a day of normal fags would cost c. £210 a week, which is way beyond what many/most smokers can afford.bondegezou said:
The damage from the smoke of a spliff is about the same as the damage from the smoke of a cigarette. However, nicotine is exceedingly addictive, so smokers typically smoke 40 a day. Regular cannabis users get through far, far fewer roll-ups. Thus, safer. Not that this is necessarily the answer to the question posed.OldKingCole said:
Quite a good question. I suppose the difference is that tobacco smoking is more harmful than cannabis, although I would have thought there wasn’t a lot of difference which burning vegetable smoke was inhaled.Andy_JS said:"Charlotte Henry
Why do Lib Dems want to crack down on smoking but legalise cannabis?"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-do-lib-dems-want-to-crack-down-on-smoking-but-legalise-cannabis/
I hope the LibDems sort themselves out policy-wise well before the election! I’m still thinking I’ll have to hold my nose and vote for whoever’s got the best chance of beating the Tory.
So I should make 100.1 -
Nailed on that he cannot resist the temptation!noneoftheabove said:
He surely can't testify anyway? He would perjure himself and commit contempt of court countless times without even realising it.MattW said:A couple of interesting points on the NY Trump trial.
1 - If there is a hung jury (which requires just one juror not to be able to agree the other eleven), the Prosecutor is able to retry the trial. This is unusual (3-5%) but not unknown. Two retrials are known, but in NY that is the unwritten limit:
https://www.hklaw.com/-/media/files/insights/publications/2022/05/law360--can-and-should-a-court-limit-repeated-retrials.pdf
2 - If the defendant decides to testify, the prosecution can introduce a lot of information about past acts and offences - which have been identified to the Court before start of the trial, and judged acceptable disclosures by the judge. The list of the for Trump is very long and includes things such as past crimes, lying on oath etc etc etc - enough to sink his credibility.
If the defendant does not testify, the list is much shorter.
Therefore I suggest Trump will not testify.0 -
As I understand it Cybertrucks do not meet safety regulations.Malmesbury said:
Probably, if you have C1/D1 on your license.kle4 said:
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash
So you are under personal import / single vehicle approval regulations if that is even possible.
if it's anything like a De Lorean, endless young boys will come and put fingerprints all over it.0 -
"Rolf Degen
@DegenRolf
Exposure to poor people reduces support for redistribution among the rich.
https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/17813128555406872951 -
Damn, none of my grandparents made it to 80, I'm probably screwed.kinabalu said:
Both mine were miners, smoked and got pneumoconiosis. Yet lived to be 89 and 92.Mexicanpete said:
Yes, my Grandad had yellow fingers and he died of cancer and heart disease, granted in his eighties and he'd been a career miner. I don't suppose the jeopardy of smoking is quite the same when one spent their days for forty years breathing in coal dust.kinabalu said:
I've had phases of them in my (long) smoking career too. Can be a satisfying ritual. And MUCH cheaper. Downsides are your fingers go yellow and you get tobacco caught in your teeth. You never saw that with Humphrey Bogart or Lauren Bacall, did you.Mexicanpete said:
My grandad used to smoke roll ups. He even had a little machine to do the rolling. Not a hint of a wokerati filter mind.kinabalu said:
Yes. Most heavy smokers go the "rollie" route, I'd have thought, to keep the cost down.Northern_Al said:
Smokers typically smoke 40 a day? Evidence? I don't think so - only a small minority of chain smokers. 40 a day of normal fags would cost c. £210 a week, which is way beyond what many/most smokers can afford.bondegezou said:
The damage from the smoke of a spliff is about the same as the damage from the smoke of a cigarette. However, nicotine is exceedingly addictive, so smokers typically smoke 40 a day. Regular cannabis users get through far, far fewer roll-ups. Thus, safer. Not that this is necessarily the answer to the question posed.OldKingCole said:
Quite a good question. I suppose the difference is that tobacco smoking is more harmful than cannabis, although I would have thought there wasn’t a lot of difference which burning vegetable smoke was inhaled.Andy_JS said:"Charlotte Henry
Why do Lib Dems want to crack down on smoking but legalise cannabis?"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-do-lib-dems-want-to-crack-down-on-smoking-but-legalise-cannabis/
I hope the LibDems sort themselves out policy-wise well before the election! I’m still thinking I’ll have to hold my nose and vote for whoever’s got the best chance of beating the Tory.
So I should make 100.0 -
Yes, Labour are maxed out in seats like that. But this is good for them because it's part of their vote becoming more efficient.Andy_JS said:
Interesting to note that Starmer's vote in Holborn & St Pancras is predicted to only increase from 66% to 68% according to the Economist's new election forecast.kinabalu said:
Could be me seeing what I want to see but I sense your Labour vote might be going astray?Leon said:The EU makes an apparently generous offer. A form of limited free movement for young people. Ok maybe the details need examining - but why not return the favour with some warm words? “This could potentially be very interesting. We need to see the small print but we want a good close relationship, repair the ill will of Brexit, blah blah”
Instead BOTH parties dismiss it out of hand. “Fuck off”
Apart from anything else it’s so utterly graceless and charmless. Starmer is going to be a disaster
https://www.economist.com/interactive/uk-general-election/forecast3 -
No you'll also make 100.kle4 said:
Damn, none of my grandparents made it to 80, I'm probably screwed.kinabalu said:
Both mine were miners, smoked and got pneumoconiosis. Yet lived to be 89 and 92.Mexicanpete said:
Yes, my Grandad had yellow fingers and he died of cancer and heart disease, granted in his eighties and he'd been a career miner. I don't suppose the jeopardy of smoking is quite the same when one spent their days for forty years breathing in coal dust.kinabalu said:
I've had phases of them in my (long) smoking career too. Can be a satisfying ritual. And MUCH cheaper. Downsides are your fingers go yellow and you get tobacco caught in your teeth. You never saw that with Humphrey Bogart or Lauren Bacall, did you.Mexicanpete said:
My grandad used to smoke roll ups. He even had a little machine to do the rolling. Not a hint of a wokerati filter mind.kinabalu said:
Yes. Most heavy smokers go the "rollie" route, I'd have thought, to keep the cost down.Northern_Al said:
Smokers typically smoke 40 a day? Evidence? I don't think so - only a small minority of chain smokers. 40 a day of normal fags would cost c. £210 a week, which is way beyond what many/most smokers can afford.bondegezou said:
The damage from the smoke of a spliff is about the same as the damage from the smoke of a cigarette. However, nicotine is exceedingly addictive, so smokers typically smoke 40 a day. Regular cannabis users get through far, far fewer roll-ups. Thus, safer. Not that this is necessarily the answer to the question posed.OldKingCole said:
Quite a good question. I suppose the difference is that tobacco smoking is more harmful than cannabis, although I would have thought there wasn’t a lot of difference which burning vegetable smoke was inhaled.Andy_JS said:"Charlotte Henry
Why do Lib Dems want to crack down on smoking but legalise cannabis?"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-do-lib-dems-want-to-crack-down-on-smoking-but-legalise-cannabis/
I hope the LibDems sort themselves out policy-wise well before the election! I’m still thinking I’ll have to hold my nose and vote for whoever’s got the best chance of beating the Tory.
So I should make 100.0 -
Most American trucks won’t pass European crash tests, so it’s unlikely to cross the pond officially. You might be able to get a Single Vehicle Approval for one as a private import, and there’s a few specialist dealers who do this with US stuff. It requires a few modifications, depending on the vehicle, such as to lights (rear indicators yellow, rear fog light, headlights pointing left etc) and instruments (speed in mph etc).kle4 said:
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash
Then there’s the question of whether you’d actually want to drive one in the UK - it’s blooming massive, bigger than even most US trucks such as the F150, and you’d have to placard the max weight down to 3.5t if you want to drive it on a car licence, which limits the loading capacity somewhat!1 -
It's massive, but its load-bed is tiny.Sandpit said:
Most American trucks won’t pass European crash tests, so it’s unlikely to cross the pond officially. You might be able to get a Single Vehicle Approval for one as a private import, and there’s a few specialist dealers who do this with US stuff. It requires a few modifications, depending on the vehicle, such as to lights (rear indicators yellow, rear fog light, headlights pointing left etc) and instruments (speed in mph etc).kle4 said:
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash
Then there’s the question of whether you’d actually want to drive one in the UK - it’s blooming massive, bigger than even most US trucks such as the F150, and you’d have to placard the max weight down to 3.5t if you want to drive it on a car licence, which limits the loading capacity somewhat!0 -
Phew!kinabalu said:
No you'll also make 100.kle4 said:
Damn, none of my grandparents made it to 80, I'm probably screwed.kinabalu said:
Both mine were miners, smoked and got pneumoconiosis. Yet lived to be 89 and 92.Mexicanpete said:
Yes, my Grandad had yellow fingers and he died of cancer and heart disease, granted in his eighties and he'd been a career miner. I don't suppose the jeopardy of smoking is quite the same when one spent their days for forty years breathing in coal dust.kinabalu said:
I've had phases of them in my (long) smoking career too. Can be a satisfying ritual. And MUCH cheaper. Downsides are your fingers go yellow and you get tobacco caught in your teeth. You never saw that with Humphrey Bogart or Lauren Bacall, did you.Mexicanpete said:
My grandad used to smoke roll ups. He even had a little machine to do the rolling. Not a hint of a wokerati filter mind.kinabalu said:
Yes. Most heavy smokers go the "rollie" route, I'd have thought, to keep the cost down.Northern_Al said:
Smokers typically smoke 40 a day? Evidence? I don't think so - only a small minority of chain smokers. 40 a day of normal fags would cost c. £210 a week, which is way beyond what many/most smokers can afford.bondegezou said:
The damage from the smoke of a spliff is about the same as the damage from the smoke of a cigarette. However, nicotine is exceedingly addictive, so smokers typically smoke 40 a day. Regular cannabis users get through far, far fewer roll-ups. Thus, safer. Not that this is necessarily the answer to the question posed.OldKingCole said:
Quite a good question. I suppose the difference is that tobacco smoking is more harmful than cannabis, although I would have thought there wasn’t a lot of difference which burning vegetable smoke was inhaled.Andy_JS said:"Charlotte Henry
Why do Lib Dems want to crack down on smoking but legalise cannabis?"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-do-lib-dems-want-to-crack-down-on-smoking-but-legalise-cannabis/
I hope the LibDems sort themselves out policy-wise well before the election! I’m still thinking I’ll have to hold my nose and vote for whoever’s got the best chance of beating the Tory.
So I should make 100.1 -
This is true.Andy_JS said:"Rolf Degen
@DegenRolf
Exposure to poor people reduces support for redistribution among the rich.
https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/17813128555406872951 -
Nevertheless winning is supposed to be a means to an end, not the end in itself.NickPalmer said:
When running from a bear, you don't have to be fast, merely faster than someone else. People are worried about the possibility of another 5 years of the current shambles. They don't need to be enthusiastic about Starmer to vote Labour rather than the Tories.HYUFD said:Starmer clearly does not enthuse voters as much as Blair but does not turn them off as much as Corbyn did either.
Note only Cameron, Brown and Blair are seeing as better PMs than Starmer would be relative to how Starmer does against Sunak.
Over a quarter of voters think Starmer would be a worse PM than Cameron too and nearly a third worse than Blair0 -
This is why I couldn't vote Labour, this class warfare on struggling parents is grim as hell.
Quarter of parents would quit private schools if VAT added to fees
Survey casts doubt on Labour claim that policy would raise £1.6 billion to spend on state schools
One in four wealthy parents plan to remove their children from private school if VAT is added to fees, a poll has found.
Others plan to move house so children who are boarding can remain as day pupils, which can save more than £10,000 a year, or to be near a cheaper private school.
The survey of 2,000 people with investable assets of more than £250,000 found that 71 per cent thought that rising school fees would have an impact on their choices around private schooling in the future.
Labour intends to add 20 per cent VAT to independent school fees if it wins the next general election and estimates this will raise an extra £1.6 billion to spend on state schools. But some analysts say fewer parents will choose private education and the money raised could be far less than predicted.
Data from a survey conducted to accompany the latest Saltus Wealth Index report found that 26 per cent of parents would have to remove their children from independent school if VAT was imposed.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/quarter-of-parents-would-quit-private-schools-if-vat-added-to-fees-brcwxcnd60 -
It was rather famous at the time, in NI.LostPassword said:P
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Cross_disputeMalmesbury said:A
During the latter stages of the Peace Process (TM) there was an issue with a school. A Catholic Primary School was located such that the way to school was down a road next to a Protestant area.ThomasNashe said:
He said ‘you’re obviously Jewish’. That was the problem as far as plod was concerned. As I said effing appalling.noneoftheabove said:
The police were unequivocally wrong to threaten arrest. However its not don't come into London, its dont try and walk through barracades to cross the street where people are marching. It would be the same if someone was trying to cross the street through barracades during the London marathon on Sunday.ThomasNashe said:
Being Jewish very much is the issue as far as the Met is concerned. The message is if you’re Jewish don’t come into London when there is a demo happening.Donkeys said:
No. The dividing line should be accepted to be about Gaza. Here it is:ThomasNashe said:
That is absolutely effing appalling. I can't believe I'd ever see anything like that in this country.Sandpit said:Surely there’s some wider context to this piece of footage, and a Met Police sargeant didn’t actually threaten to arrest a man for “being openly Jewish in a public place”?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/police-threaten-jewish-man-arrest-palestine-protest-london/
Enough. This has to stop - and whatever you think about what's happening in Gaza (which has no relevance to the question) - it is time we all came together to oppose this upsurge in antisemitism in our own country.
Goodies: those who support the Palestinians against genocide, which includes many Jews.
Baddies: those who support genocide against the Palestinians, which also includes many Jews.
Jews aren't the issue. The Jewish supremacist regime that's carrying out the genocide is certainly the issue.
You won't like this, @ThomasNashe, but the above way of looking at things directly implies "Don't hassle anyone for being Jewish".
Of the Jews who support the Palestinians and oppose the existence of the supremacist regime, some organise putting their Jewish heritage up front, including some who are religious, some don't. All are welcome. See Neturei Karta for a religious group that, the last I heard, supported the IRM ("Hamas").
Being offensively Catholic in front of Protestants put off the locals. Who threw things and shouted crap. There was full on rioting as well…
The Police didn’t arrest the Catholic parents and their children for being Catholic in a built up area. Or for stepping on cracks in the pavement.
They lined the road with armoured Land Rovers to form a protective wall. Then, the Chief Constable of Northern Ireland, in dress uniform*, led the group of parents and children to the school.
Because, as he put it, “they were exercising their right to walk upon the Queens highway”
That’s the stuff I pay my taxes for.
*other ranks wore full riot gear, including fireproof boiler suits.
This? No mention of the dress uniform...
The Chief Constable leading the walk was a big item in the news.
Something to remember about Wikipedia - because it is community edited, you get pages taken over by partisans of one side or another. For NI, I would always recommend getting information elsewhere - at least additionally.0 -
"Who is Liz Truss kidding?
She can't win hearts — or minds
Kathleen Stock"
https://unherd.com/2024/04/why-liz-truss-will-never-repent/0 -
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."TheScreamingEagles said:
This is true.Andy_JS said:"Rolf Degen
@DegenRolf
Exposure to poor people reduces support for redistribution among the rich.
https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/17813128555406872951 -
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Is the fifth word a mistake in your post?TheScreamingEagles said:This is why I could vote Labour, this class warfare on struggling parents is grim as hell.
Quarter of parents would quit private schools if VAT added to fees
Survey casts doubt on Labour claim that policy would raise £1.6 billion to spend on state schools
One in four wealthy parents plan to remove their children from private school if VAT is added to fees, a poll has found.
Others plan to move house so children who are boarding can remain as day pupils, which can save more than £10,000 a year, or to be near a cheaper private school.
The survey of 2,000 people with investable assets of more than £250,000 found that 71 per cent thought that rising school fees would have an impact on their choices around private schooling in the future.
Labour intends to add 20 per cent VAT to independent school fees if it wins the next general election and estimates this will raise an extra £1.6 billion to spend on state schools. But some analysts say fewer parents will choose private education and the money raised could be far less than predicted.
Data from a survey conducted to accompany the latest Saltus Wealth Index report found that 26 per cent of parents would have to remove their children from independent school if VAT was imposed.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/quarter-of-parents-would-quit-private-schools-if-vat-added-to-fees-brcwxcnd60 -
It's the opposite of what I thought before seeing the research.TheScreamingEagles said:
This is true.Andy_JS said:"Rolf Degen
@DegenRolf
Exposure to poor people reduces support for redistribution among the rich.
https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/17813128555406872950 -
I am blamingboulay said:…
Is the fifth word a mistake in your post?TheScreamingEagles said:This is why I could vote Labour, this class warfare on struggling parents is grim as hell.
Quarter of parents would quit private schools if VAT added to fees
Survey casts doubt on Labour claim that policy would raise £1.6 billion to spend on state schools
One in four wealthy parents plan to remove their children from private school if VAT is added to fees, a poll has found.
Others plan to move house so children who are boarding can remain as day pupils, which can save more than £10,000 a year, or to be near a cheaper private school.
The survey of 2,000 people with investable assets of more than £250,000 found that 71 per cent thought that rising school fees would have an impact on their choices around private schooling in the future.
Labour intends to add 20 per cent VAT to independent school fees if it wins the next general election and estimates this will raise an extra £1.6 billion to spend on state schools. But some analysts say fewer parents will choose private education and the money raised could be far less than predicted.
Data from a survey conducted to accompany the latest Saltus Wealth Index report found that 26 per cent of parents would have to remove their children from independent school if VAT was imposed.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/quarter-of-parents-would-quit-private-schools-if-vat-added-to-fees-brcwxcnd6tirednessautocorrect.0 -
I landed at 20:01
I'm outside the airport at 20:17
I don't think this ever happened before Brexit
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Nah, you see what the plebs spends their money on with my tax contribution you become anti-redistribution.Andy_JS said:
It's the opposite of what I thought before seeing the research.TheScreamingEagles said:
This is true.Andy_JS said:"Rolf Degen
@DegenRolf
Exposure to poor people reduces support for redistribution among the rich.
https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/17813128555406872950 -
You can drive all kinds of vehicles on the roads - including a Centurion recovery vehicle and Saracen APCs.Sandpit said:
Most American trucks won’t pass European crash tests, so it’s unlikely to cross the pond officially. You might be able to get a Single Vehicle Approval for one as a private import, and there’s a few specialist dealers who do this with US stuff. It requires a few modifications, depending on the vehicle, such as to lights (rear indicators yellow, rear fog light, headlights pointing left etc) and instruments (speed in mph etc).kle4 said:
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash
Then there’s the question of whether you’d actually want to drive one in the UK - it’s blooming massive, bigger than even most US trucks such as the F150, and you’d have to placard the max weight down to 3.5t if you want to drive it on a car licence, which limits the loading capacity somewhat!
Those don’t have any modern safety features. What’s their loophole?0 -
Now tell me woke “isn’t a thing”. This thread. My god
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked intelligence diversity docs tells spies: Stop displaying "alpha behaviours" including strength/urgency, look out for words “strong”/“grip” as they “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”, wear LGBT lanyards, learn from George Floyd death.
https://x.com/stevenedginton/status/1781361239081296333?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw0 -
I’m Bond, James Bond, they, them.Leon said:Now tell me woke “isn’t a thing”. This thread. My god
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked intelligence diversity docs tells spies: Stop displaying "alpha behaviours" including strength/urgency, look out for words “strong”/“grip” as they “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”, wear LGBT lanyards, learn from George Floyd death.
https://x.com/stevenedginton/status/1781361239081296333?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw3 -
Depends on the airport.BlancheLivermore said:I landed at 20:01
I'm outside the airport at 20:17
I don't think this ever happened before Brexit
Once did 5 minutes (approx) from the plane door to the airport front door, at Trujillo in Peru.0 -
It’s one of the bleakest threads I’ve ever read. Our entire establishment is captured by this poisonous corrosive ideology. This rancid fungus of racist shitenessboulay said:
I’m Bond, James Bond, they, them.Leon said:Now tell me woke “isn’t a thing”. This thread. My god
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked intelligence diversity docs tells spies: Stop displaying "alpha behaviours" including strength/urgency, look out for words “strong”/“grip” as they “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”, wear LGBT lanyards, learn from George Floyd death.
https://x.com/stevenedginton/status/1781361239081296333?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw2 -
Never mind that, what's this I'm hearing about Karahan Tepe instead of Gobekli Tepe?Leon said:Now tell me woke “isn’t a thing”. This thread. My god
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked intelligence diversity docs tells spies: Stop displaying "alpha behaviours" including strength/urgency, look out for words “strong”/“grip” as they “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”, wear LGBT lanyards, learn from George Floyd death.
https://x.com/stevenedginton/status/1781361239081296333?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEn6ZHtMECM0 -
I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd2
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Don’t worry too much, when the Chinese spy corners the British spy and is about to kill him/her and the British spy breaks down and tells the Chinese spy that they are both victims of the patriarchy and frankly if they had been able to change their genders at age 12 then all would be perfect. the Chinese spy will start crying and exclaim “you too brother-sister” and war will be averted and peace shall regain across Mother/Father Earth.Leon said:
It’s one of the bleakest threads I’ve ever read. Our entire establishment is captured by this poisonous corrosive ideology. This rancid fungus of racist shitenessboulay said:
I’m Bond, James Bond, they, them.Leon said:Now tell me woke “isn’t a thing”. This thread. My god
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked intelligence diversity docs tells spies: Stop displaying "alpha behaviours" including strength/urgency, look out for words “strong”/“grip” as they “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”, wear LGBT lanyards, learn from George Floyd death.
https://x.com/stevenedginton/status/1781361239081296333?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
Or alternatively Chinese spy will kill British spy and walk off thinking “what a completely wet Fanny.” And then help China take over the world and put all the people who want to soften the security services up against the wall first.
There is truth is the quote “ people sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”1 -
Evening all
Mixed polling from the Friday regulars - Techne has a 23 point Labour lead with the split 59-35 but We Think has a 59-37 split with the Conservatives at 26% (+2), their highest in a poll for a couple of weeks.
The Conservative to Labour swing on We Think is 14.5% which is still well into landslide territory.
We should have an Opinium this Sunday - they poll lower for Labour than most and their Conservative share comes out as 25-27%.0 -
"The Race Taboo: How Liberalism Created Woke by Making Race Sacred. Woke is Liberalism Gone Amok
Eric Kaufmann"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu2X3lENy4I0 -
Successful spies aren't noticed and blend into the background. Being "alpha" isn't the way to do it.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
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Grandfather rights mostly, and special military vehicle categories.Malmesbury said:
You can drive all kinds of vehicles on the roads - including a Centurion recovery vehicle and Saracen APCs.Sandpit said:
Most American trucks won’t pass European crash tests, so it’s unlikely to cross the pond officially. You might be able to get a Single Vehicle Approval for one as a private import, and there’s a few specialist dealers who do this with US stuff. It requires a few modifications, depending on the vehicle, such as to lights (rear indicators yellow, rear fog light, headlights pointing left etc) and instruments (speed in mph etc).kle4 said:
Can they even be legally driven in this country?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was thinking about getting a Cybertruck.Scott_xP said:@Phil_Lewis_
Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash
Then there’s the question of whether you’d actually want to drive one in the UK - it’s blooming massive, bigger than even most US trucks such as the F150, and you’d have to placard the max weight down to 3.5t if you want to drive it on a car licence, which limits the loading capacity somewhat!
Those don’t have any modern safety features. What’s their loophole?
You can get almost anything registered with a bit of ingenuity, even a sofa! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTgLnUgzZYk
But the key word there is ‘you’. Ford can’t sell you a 1980s-era Fiesta, because it doesn’t meet modern standards for safety and emissions. But if you could find a factory in the third world that still make them, you could bring one back yourself and get it registered - although this is actually changing with the latest emissions regs, and it won’t be possible to do that any more.0 -
97% of people working for MI5/SIS will never be in danger of anything more than paper cuts.Foxy said:
Successful spies aren't noticed and blend into the background. Being "alpha" isn't the way to do it.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
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No, they need to be cowering in a corner, clutching their LGBTQ lanyards, earnestly weeping over an icon of Saint George Floyd the Martyr, as they avoid evil and difficult words like "status quo" and apologise for being white. That'll really stick it to Vladimir PutinFoxy said:
Successful spies aren't noticed and blend into the background. Being "alpha" isn't the way to do it.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
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What happens if you are a spy in a large part of the world where actually being alpha is normal and required. I’m guessing a British spy in Russia isn’t sitting there praising LGBTQ doctrine and our boys in South America aren’t turning down the asado and requesting a vegan option?Foxy said:
Successful spies aren't noticed and blend into the background. Being "alpha" isn't the way to do it.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
A large, large part of the world is nasty, “old fashioned” and male-centric and so to tell people that it’s wrong is going to put them at a disadvantage. Unless of course you think they should “act” in which case it’s equally correct that you hire some un-woke spies and tell them to “act” when in Europe and similar civilised places.1 -
And still people will deny that Wokeness even exists, let alone that it is a major fucking problem0
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Ah Mr Bond, it wasn’t the fact that you booked into the hotel using your name that gave you away, it’s the fact that when we laughed about Flea Bag being shit and we saw that tear in the corner of your eye that we knew you were a British trained agent.0
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How do non-binary spies assassinate their enemies?Leon said:
No, they need to be cowering in a corner, clutching their LGBTQ lanyards, earnestly weeping over an icon of Saint George Floyd the Martyr, as they avoid evil and difficult words like "status quo" and apologise for being white. That'll really stick it to Vladimir PutinFoxy said:
Successful spies aren't noticed and blend into the background. Being "alpha" isn't the way to do it.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
They slash them.3 -
It’s perfectly possible to avoid gendered language, think deeply about George Floyd and wear an LGBT allyship badge AND be capable of ruthlessly murdering an enemy of the state in cold blood.boulay said:
Don’t worry too much, when the Chinese spy corners the British spy and is about to kill him/her and the British spy breaks down and tells the Chinese spy that they are both victims of the patriarchy and frankly if they had been able to change their genders at age 12 then all would be perfect. the Chinese spy will start crying and exclaim “you too brother-sister” and war will be averted and peace shall regain across Mother/Father Earth.Leon said:
It’s one of the bleakest threads I’ve ever read. Our entire establishment is captured by this poisonous corrosive ideology. This rancid fungus of racist shitenessboulay said:
I’m Bond, James Bond, they, them.Leon said:Now tell me woke “isn’t a thing”. This thread. My god
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked intelligence diversity docs tells spies: Stop displaying "alpha behaviours" including strength/urgency, look out for words “strong”/“grip” as they “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”, wear LGBT lanyards, learn from George Floyd death.
https://x.com/stevenedginton/status/1781361239081296333?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
Or alternatively Chinese spy will kill British spy and walk off thinking “what a completely wet Fanny.” And then help China take over the world and put all the people who want to soften the security services up against the wall first.
There is truth is the quote “ people sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”
Indeed MAGA Americans are forever moaning about the violence of woke types.1 -
Labour reporting Menzies is as big a crock as Daly reporting Rayner. That said I would have thought the Conservative Association well within it's rights to ask Plod to investigate where it's money has gone.JosiasJessop said:I await those who are complaining the police are wasting time investigating Rayner saying the same about Menzies...
"Lancashire Police have said they are reviewing information about allegations against suspended Tory MP Mark Menzies.
Labour wrote to police on Friday morning calling for an investigation."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-688586041 -
UK and US intelligence seems by all accounts to have been extremely effective recently.1
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The Tories must shoulder some of the blame for this. They have been in power for 14 years and they've had ample opportunity to extirpate this vile, damaging Woke nonsense, to drive it out of public life and to punish those that proselytise it. Instead they have actively let it spread, it has got worse, to the extent that we now refuse to deport known sex offenders back to Afghanistan, because they might suffer for being sex offenders, and so they rape and murder British people instead. That is where we are. That is what the Tories have allowed to flourish, that level of insanity
The only way we retrieve the situation is something close to revolution. An entire class of people needs to be exiled from power forever, and a grotesque ideology needs to be forcibly eliminated. We need the Labour party to fuck up massively and a proper right wing party to assume power
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Absolutely, it is not just perfectly possible but true however it shouldn’t be a doctrine. If you have someone you can send into some hell hole and they don’t conform to the “right way” of thinking but would do a great job that’s more important than losing them before you can use them because they didn’t conform to the doctrine.TimS said:
It’s perfectly possible to avoid gendered language, think deeply about George Floyd and wear an LGBT allyship badge AND be capable of ruthlessly murdering an enemy of the state in cold blood.boulay said:
Don’t worry too much, when the Chinese spy corners the British spy and is about to kill him/her and the British spy breaks down and tells the Chinese spy that they are both victims of the patriarchy and frankly if they had been able to change their genders at age 12 then all would be perfect. the Chinese spy will start crying and exclaim “you too brother-sister” and war will be averted and peace shall regain across Mother/Father Earth.Leon said:
It’s one of the bleakest threads I’ve ever read. Our entire establishment is captured by this poisonous corrosive ideology. This rancid fungus of racist shitenessboulay said:
I’m Bond, James Bond, they, them.Leon said:Now tell me woke “isn’t a thing”. This thread. My god
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked intelligence diversity docs tells spies: Stop displaying "alpha behaviours" including strength/urgency, look out for words “strong”/“grip” as they “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”, wear LGBT lanyards, learn from George Floyd death.
https://x.com/stevenedginton/status/1781361239081296333?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
Or alternatively Chinese spy will kill British spy and walk off thinking “what a completely wet Fanny.” And then help China take over the world and put all the people who want to soften the security services up against the wall first.
There is truth is the quote “ people sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”
Indeed MAGA Americans are forever moaning about the violence of woke types.0 -
The key to being a spy is not appearing to be a spy; to fit in, be normal. Whatever combination of MICE are motivating you should not be too visible. Also, spraying bullets about Bond-style is not fitting in.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
Who is the most successful criminal ever? Someone you have never heard of. 1 -
That's why RefUK are only about 5% behind them according to some pollsters.Leon said:The Tories must shoulder some of the blame for this. They have been in power for 14 years and they've had ample opportunity to extirpate this vile, damaging Woke nonsense, to drive it out of public life and to punish those that proselytise it. Instead they have actively let it spread, it has got worse, to the extent that we now refuse to deport known sex offenders back to Afghanistan, because they might suffer for being sex offenders, and so they rape and murder British people instead. That is where we are. That is what the Tories have allowed to flourish, that level of insanity
The only way we retrieve the situation is something close to revolution. An entire class of people needs to be exiled from power forever, and a grotesque ideology needs to be forcibly eliminated. We need the Labour party to fuck up massively and a proper right wing party to assume power
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I assume the training was about how they work together with their colleagues.boulay said:
Absolutely, it is not just perfectly possible but true however it shouldn’t be a doctrine. If you have someone you can send into some hell hole and they don’t conform to the “right way” of thinking but would do a great job that’s more important than losing them before you can use them because they didn’t conform to the doctrine.TimS said:
It’s perfectly possible to avoid gendered language, think deeply about George Floyd and wear an LGBT allyship badge AND be capable of ruthlessly murdering an enemy of the state in cold blood.boulay said:
Don’t worry too much, when the Chinese spy corners the British spy and is about to kill him/her and the British spy breaks down and tells the Chinese spy that they are both victims of the patriarchy and frankly if they had been able to change their genders at age 12 then all would be perfect. the Chinese spy will start crying and exclaim “you too brother-sister” and war will be averted and peace shall regain across Mother/Father Earth.Leon said:
It’s one of the bleakest threads I’ve ever read. Our entire establishment is captured by this poisonous corrosive ideology. This rancid fungus of racist shitenessboulay said:
I’m Bond, James Bond, they, them.Leon said:Now tell me woke “isn’t a thing”. This thread. My god
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked intelligence diversity docs tells spies: Stop displaying "alpha behaviours" including strength/urgency, look out for words “strong”/“grip” as they “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”, wear LGBT lanyards, learn from George Floyd death.
https://x.com/stevenedginton/status/1781361239081296333?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
Or alternatively Chinese spy will kill British spy and walk off thinking “what a completely wet Fanny.” And then help China take over the world and put all the people who want to soften the security services up against the wall first.
There is truth is the quote “ people sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”
Indeed MAGA Americans are forever moaning about the violence of woke types.0 -
I sometimes wonder if the James Bond mythology has been an advantage to Britain's security services, or a millstone around their neck.0
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Wokeness seems to pass me by, but then I live in ruffty tuffty Cowbridge rather than genteel Primrose Hill.Leon said:And still people will deny that Wokeness even exists, let alone that it is a major fucking problem
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The next James Bond will be brilliant. The first ten minutes will be a transsexual genderfluid Jemelia Bond draped in a Pride flag and wearing vegan sandals and a tofu hat and sobbing over a nine metre high knitted photo of George Floyd, sobbing so violently that them doesn't notice the Chinese spy behind they that kills she-they. Roll credits0
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This is the whole point, most of the places we need spies aren’t woke, lovely, fluffy, LGBtQ friendly etc and so if you’ve deterred or refused employment to spies because they didn’t confirm to the new orthodoxy then you send the ones who fit in at the BBC to Belarus and they start crying when people start misgendering people, eating kittens, shooting people for shits and gigs, they are going to be spotted really quickly.JosiasJessop said:
The key to being a spy is not appearing to be a spy; to fit in, be normal. Whatever combination of MICE are motivating you should not be too visible. Also, spraying bullets about Bond-style is not fitting in.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
Who is the most successful criminal ever? Someone you have never heard of.
We don’t really need to do a lot of spying in like-minded countries. When they send you to spy in Iran and you get dragged to a jolly where they hang a gay person off a crane if you are so indoctrinated by being lovely and fluffy it’s not going to work.1 -
According to wiki Captain Cook on his first Pacific voyage sightedJosiasJessop said:Times Radio on Youtube:
"In 1770, British explorer James Cook made a significant discovery during his voyage in the Pacific Ocean. What notable landmass did Captain Cook first sight during this expedition?"
The options:
Hawaii
New Zealand
Tahaiti
Australia.
They think the correct answer is Australia...
Tahiti - April 1769
New Zealand - October 1769
Australia - April 1770
Do agree the question is poorly written, as the ACTUAL question asked does NOT mention "1770" though the leadup does.0 -
The rumour is that Barbara Broccoli is waiting so long to announce a new film and a new Bond because she's hoping for woke to fuck off. Potentially if Trump gets in there will be at least be alternative voices. At the moment a Bond film would be even more piss poor than the last effort.Leon said:The next James Bond will be brilliant. The first ten minutes will be a transsexual genderfluid Jemelia Bond draped in a Pride flag and wearing vegan sandals and a tofu hat and sobbing over a nine metre high knitted photo of George Floyd, sobbing so violently that them doesn't notice the Chinese spy behind they that kills she-they. Roll credits
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I can't think why it should have affected them at all.JosiasJessop said:I sometimes wonder if the James Bond mythology has been an advantage to Britain's security services, or a millstone around their neck.
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its not a value political bet but a value snooker bet - bet365 and skybet both offer 3 or more 147s at the world champs at 50/1 .Given they offer 1 147 at 6/4 and 2 at 8/1 then I fail to see why 3 OR MORE is as big as 50/1. IF anything if 1 is scored then more becomes more likely than normal (given the pockets may be loose) . There was a 147 at last years champs as well so its not as if 6/4 is tight0
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Australia was discovered by the Dutch. Cook discovered the eastern/northeastern coast; but they knew *something* was in that rough area. So he did "first sight" Australia's eastern coast, but he did not discover Australia. A badly-written question, even leaving aside the existence of indigenous Australians.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
According to wiki Captain Cook on his first Pacific voyage sightedJosiasJessop said:Times Radio on Youtube:
"In 1770, British explorer James Cook made a significant discovery during his voyage in the Pacific Ocean. What notable landmass did Captain Cook first sight during this expedition?"
The options:
Hawaii
New Zealand
Tahaiti
Australia.
They think the correct answer is Australia...
Tahiti - April 1769
New Zealand - October 1769
Australia - April 1770
Do agree the question is poorly written, as the ACTUAL question asked does NOT mention "1770" though the leadup does.
https://www.nla.gov.au/faq/who-was-the-first-european-to-land-on-australia#0 -
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The crazy thing is that she could make billions by having a Marvel type universe of spin-offs where they have a Black 005 film series, a female 008 series and a gay 00 etc but credit to her she is very protective over what Bond “is”.Luckyguy1983 said:
The rumour is that Barbara Broccoli is waiting so long to announce a new film and a new Bond because she's hoping for woke to fuck off. Potentially if Trump gets in there will be at least be alternative voices. At the moment a Bond film would be even more piss poor than the last effort.Leon said:The next James Bond will be brilliant. The first ten minutes will be a transsexual genderfluid Jemelia Bond draped in a Pride flag and wearing vegan sandals and a tofu hat and sobbing over a nine metre high knitted photo of George Floyd, sobbing so violently that them doesn't notice the Chinese spy behind they that kills she-they. Roll credits
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I think everyone’s been watching too much Bond. Most intelligence services employees work at desks, in Britain.boulay said:
This is the whole point, most of the places we need spies aren’t woke, lovely, fluffy, LGBtQ friendly etc and so if you’ve deterred or refused employment to spies because they didn’t confirm to the new orthodoxy then you send the ones who fit in at the BBC to Belarus and they start crying when people start misgendering people, eating kittens, shooting people for shits and gigs, they are going to be spotted really quickly.JosiasJessop said:
The key to being a spy is not appearing to be a spy; to fit in, be normal. Whatever combination of MICE are motivating you should not be too visible. Also, spraying bullets about Bond-style is not fitting in.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
Who is the most successful criminal ever? Someone you have never heard of.
We don’t really need to do a lot of spying in like-minded countries. When they send you to spy in Iran and you get dragged to a jolly where they hang a gay person off a crane if you are so indoctrinated by being lovely and fluffy it’s not going to work.1 -
People assuming that joining the security services involved sleeping with loads of women and shooting people.Luckyguy1983 said:
I can't think why it should have affected them at all.JosiasJessop said:I sometimes wonder if the James Bond mythology has been an advantage to Britain's security services, or a millstone around their neck.
Instead of travelling the enemy's country to study the spires of cathedrals...0 -
Sources for this rumour... ?Luckyguy1983 said:
The rumour is that Barbara Broccoli is waiting so long to announce a new film and a new Bond because she's hoping for woke to fuck off. Potentially if Trump gets in there will be at least be alternative voices. At the moment a Bond film would be even more piss poor than the last effort.Leon said:The next James Bond will be brilliant. The first ten minutes will be a transsexual genderfluid Jemelia Bond draped in a Pride flag and wearing vegan sandals and a tofu hat and sobbing over a nine metre high knitted photo of George Floyd, sobbing so violently that them doesn't notice the Chinese spy behind they that kills she-they. Roll credits
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There's a man playing bagpipes outside the cathedral
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It was "discovered" long before the Dutch by Muslim and Indonesian sailors trading sea cucumbers. They are depicted in the rock art of ArnhemlandJosiasJessop said:
Australia was discovered by the Dutch. Cook discovered the eastern/northeastern coast; but they knew *something* was in that rough area. So he did "first sight" Australia's eastern coast, but he did not discover Australia. A badly-written question, even leaving aside the existence of indigenous Australians.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
According to wiki Captain Cook on his first Pacific voyage sightedJosiasJessop said:Times Radio on Youtube:
"In 1770, British explorer James Cook made a significant discovery during his voyage in the Pacific Ocean. What notable landmass did Captain Cook first sight during this expedition?"
The options:
Hawaii
New Zealand
Tahaiti
Australia.
They think the correct answer is Australia...
Tahiti - April 1769
New Zealand - October 1769
Australia - April 1770
Do agree the question is poorly written, as the ACTUAL question asked does NOT mention "1770" though the leadup does.
https://www.nla.gov.au/faq/who-was-the-first-european-to-land-on-australia#1 -
They do indeed, and they have to manage and collecitvely are responsible for a few people doing scary shit for us in places that aren’t nice so if the people in the not nice place need help they don’t need a lecture on crap and to be worried about saying and doing the “right things” from someone at a nice safe desk in Cheltenham or London.TimS said:
I think everyone’s been watching too much Bond. Most intelligence services employees work at desks, in Britain.boulay said:
This is the whole point, most of the places we need spies aren’t woke, lovely, fluffy, LGBtQ friendly etc and so if you’ve deterred or refused employment to spies because they didn’t confirm to the new orthodoxy then you send the ones who fit in at the BBC to Belarus and they start crying when people start misgendering people, eating kittens, shooting people for shits and gigs, they are going to be spotted really quickly.JosiasJessop said:
The key to being a spy is not appearing to be a spy; to fit in, be normal. Whatever combination of MICE are motivating you should not be too visible. Also, spraying bullets about Bond-style is not fitting in.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
Who is the most successful criminal ever? Someone you have never heard of.
We don’t really need to do a lot of spying in like-minded countries. When they send you to spy in Iran and you get dragged to a jolly where they hang a gay person off a crane if you are so indoctrinated by being lovely and fluffy it’s not going to work.0 -
I fear some folk will collapse if they find out James Bond isn't a documentary.Foxy said:
Successful spies aren't noticed and blend into the background. Being "alpha" isn't the way to do it.Leon said:I mean who wants their spies to be strong and urgent anyway? We need them to be more diversely lazy complacent weak and ineffectual and constantly thinking of the death of George Floyd
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Personally, I like Quentin Tarantino’s suggestion. Re boot to the 1950s/60s, when the books were set. Bond in a Bentley Blower - all guarantees from Bentley lost when his gets the supercharger fitted.Luckyguy1983 said:
The rumour is that Barbara Broccoli is waiting so long to announce a new film and a new Bond because she's hoping for woke to fuck off. Potentially if Trump gets in there will be at least be alternative voices. At the moment a Bond film would be even more piss poor than the last effort.Leon said:The next James Bond will be brilliant. The first ten minutes will be a transsexual genderfluid Jemelia Bond draped in a Pride flag and wearing vegan sandals and a tofu hat and sobbing over a nine metre high knitted photo of George Floyd, sobbing so violently that them doesn't notice the Chinese spy behind they that kills she-they. Roll credits
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Bond Youtube fan community. I've not given it any more credence than suggesting it's a rumour so I won't be providing citations if it's all the same to you.JosiasJessop said:
Sources for this rumour... ?Luckyguy1983 said:
The rumour is that Barbara Broccoli is waiting so long to announce a new film and a new Bond because she's hoping for woke to fuck off. Potentially if Trump gets in there will be at least be alternative voices. At the moment a Bond film would be even more piss poor than the last effort.Leon said:The next James Bond will be brilliant. The first ten minutes will be a transsexual genderfluid Jemelia Bond draped in a Pride flag and wearing vegan sandals and a tofu hat and sobbing over a nine metre high knitted photo of George Floyd, sobbing so violently that them doesn't notice the Chinese spy behind they that kills she-they. Roll credits
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My father made it past 80 so probably screwedkle4 said:
Damn, none of my grandparents made it to 80, I'm probably screwed.kinabalu said:
Both mine were miners, smoked and got pneumoconiosis. Yet lived to be 89 and 92.Mexicanpete said:
Yes, my Grandad had yellow fingers and he died of cancer and heart disease, granted in his eighties and he'd been a career miner. I don't suppose the jeopardy of smoking is quite the same when one spent their days for forty years breathing in coal dust.kinabalu said:
I've had phases of them in my (long) smoking career too. Can be a satisfying ritual. And MUCH cheaper. Downsides are your fingers go yellow and you get tobacco caught in your teeth. You never saw that with Humphrey Bogart or Lauren Bacall, did you.Mexicanpete said:
My grandad used to smoke roll ups. He even had a little machine to do the rolling. Not a hint of a wokerati filter mind.kinabalu said:
Yes. Most heavy smokers go the "rollie" route, I'd have thought, to keep the cost down.Northern_Al said:
Smokers typically smoke 40 a day? Evidence? I don't think so - only a small minority of chain smokers. 40 a day of normal fags would cost c. £210 a week, which is way beyond what many/most smokers can afford.bondegezou said:
The damage from the smoke of a spliff is about the same as the damage from the smoke of a cigarette. However, nicotine is exceedingly addictive, so smokers typically smoke 40 a day. Regular cannabis users get through far, far fewer roll-ups. Thus, safer. Not that this is necessarily the answer to the question posed.OldKingCole said:
Quite a good question. I suppose the difference is that tobacco smoking is more harmful than cannabis, although I would have thought there wasn’t a lot of difference which burning vegetable smoke was inhaled.Andy_JS said:"Charlotte Henry
Why do Lib Dems want to crack down on smoking but legalise cannabis?"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-do-lib-dems-want-to-crack-down-on-smoking-but-legalise-cannabis/
I hope the LibDems sort themselves out policy-wise well before the election! I’m still thinking I’ll have to hold my nose and vote for whoever’s got the best chance of beating the Tory.
So I should make 100.
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The Broccolis have total control over the Bond process and don't have to satisfy anyone but themselves. I think the delay is more their advancing age and lack of an obvious candidate, although I do like the ATJ rumoursLuckyguy1983 said:
The rumour is that Barbara Broccoli is waiting so long to announce a new film and a new Bond because she's hoping for woke to fuck off. Potentially if Trump gets in there will be at least be alternative voices. At the moment a Bond film would be even more piss poor than the last effort.Leon said:The next James Bond will be brilliant. The first ten minutes will be a transsexual genderfluid Jemelia Bond draped in a Pride flag and wearing vegan sandals and a tofu hat and sobbing over a nine metre high knitted photo of George Floyd, sobbing so violently that them doesn't notice the Chinese spy behind they that kills she-they. Roll credits
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Sources for anyone assuming that... ?JosiasJessop said:
People assuming that joining the security services involved sleeping with loads of women and shooting people.Luckyguy1983 said:
I can't think why it should have affected them at all.JosiasJessop said:I sometimes wonder if the James Bond mythology has been an advantage to Britain's security services, or a millstone around their neck.
Instead of travelling the enemy's country to study the spires of cathedrals...0
