Anything you can do, we can do worse. – politicalbetting.com
‘Can you guarantee to the bereaved families that you will disclose emails, WhatsApps, private emails if you’ve been using them. Whatever. That nothing will be off limits in this inquiry?’My question to @NicolaSturgeon August 2021 pic.twitter.com/OJDCBTESCe
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I wonder what Police Scotland make of Nicola Sturgeon deleting her WhatsApp messages?
She really has trashed her reputation0 -
Oooh was that a first?0
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Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.7
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It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.0 -
If these sorts of informal discussions happened in phone calls or in person as in the past, they would be largely forgotten, or at best lightly minuted.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
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So Saudi Arabia have won the men's soccer world cup tournament in 2034.
Deepest of deep joys.0 -
Your messages might be secure but what other information does the app slurp up when you aren't looking?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Maybe you don't care but I'd 100% use a burner phone if I was forced to install it.1 -
A previous TMI moment in politics. LBJ phones up to order some new trousers which don't "cut up on my bunghole":carnforth said:
If these sorts of informal discussions happened in phone calls or in person as in the past, they would be largely forgotten, or at best lightly minuted.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR_myjOr0OU0 -
Liz Truss, bold and wise,
Leads with purpose in her eyes,
Politics' new rise.1 -
Good piece, Cyclefree1
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Somehow I can't see Budweiser sponsoring it this time.TheScreamingEagles said:So Saudi Arabia have won the men's soccer world cup tournament in 2034.
Deepest of deep joys.0 -
Maybe it highlights Boris flawed personality, but you would have thought having a really bad experience with COVID would send you the other way....oh shit, that was f##king awful, we can't let old people get this.
I can actually understand the outlook on the parties (not excusing them), they were what staffers did every Friday from the beginning of time, they all had had COVID and worked side by side, so in terms of risk, there wasn't really any. Now obviously you can't make the rules, and then ignore them. But I can see the Boris, well chaps and chapesses if the odd bottle top was to become loose when I wasn't here, well nobody will know will they. That definitely very much Boris.
But the well I was hospitalised with this thing, well I don't understand we just need the oldies to crack on and get this, as they were only to die anyway....that's a totally different sort of mental gymnastics.1 -
Surely the simple solution is for the SNP to say "yebbut that was Sturgeon, so it doesn't matter". And simply not bother with an enquiry.0
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These are the permissions it has on my phone.Flatlander said:
Your messages might be secure but what other information does the app slurp up when you aren't looking?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Maybe you don't care but I'd 100% use a burner phone if I was forced to install it.
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What is the Yousaf's statement "at odds with government policy" ?
Link ?
A quick search turned up this (FWIW), which might well be confused, but seems not greatly contradictory.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67261338
..Humza Yousaf has denied deleting Whatsapp messages relating to the Covid-19 pandemic.
The Scottish government has been accused of failing to hand over data to the UK Covid Inquiry.
Senior government figures during the pandemic, including former first minister Nicola Sturgeon, have been accused of wiping messages or using an auto-delete function.
Mr Yousaf said it was "certainly not true" that he had removed messages.
He said his government would "fully" comply with both the UK and Scottish Covid inquiries.
"I have kept and retained all of the WhatsApp messages and I am more than happy to hand them over to the Covid inquiry," the first minister told BBC Scotland News.
"Government business isn't routinely done over WhatsApp and of course where any decisions were made they were appropriately recorded within our message management system.
"If the Covid inquiry wants more information, needs more information, then I expect every minister, past and present, every government official or clinical adviser to comply."..0 -
WhatsApp is as secure as Suckerberg is a trustworthy, decent human being. See the problem there?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Start by moving to Signal
For government, there are a number of messaging systems that can be self hosted - so the government would actually control it.2 -
Good article, @Cyclefree
Here's the summary version.
https://twitter.com/DaveLukewarm/status/17189307209182826120 -
Contacts and mobile data only for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
These are the permissions it has on my phone.Flatlander said:
Your messages might be secure but what other information does the app slurp up when you aren't looking?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Maybe you don't care but I'd 100% use a burner phone if I was forced to install it.0 -
We are going to get all the nonsense again of the virtual signalling of "I absolutely stand against the terrible social policies of KSA"...."so you won't go and take their millions for working at the tournament"....."sorry I am very busy, I must go now".....TheScreamingEagles said:So Saudi Arabia have won the men's soccer world cup tournament in 2034.
Deepest of deep joys.
I bet there were loads of loud mouths who spouted off about LIV golf, but will all of a sudden have a modified opinion of well we must engage with these countries in order to enact change.1 -
The slight problem is that the a swathe of Scottish politics - elected and permanent officials were involved in this. Most are still there.RochdalePioneers said:Surely the simple solution is for the SNP to say "yebbut that was Sturgeon, so it doesn't matter". And simply not bother with an enquiry.
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It was a time when the PM was quite chummy with ex KGB chaps. We didn't have political security secrets to protect.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
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And Beckham and Neville still cashing in ?FrancisUrquhart said:
We are going to get all the nonsense again of the virtual signalling of "I absolutely stand against the terrible social policies of KSA"...."so you won't go and take their millions for working at the tournament"....."sorry I am very busy, I must go now".....TheScreamingEagles said:So Saudi Arabia have won the men's soccer world cup tournament in 2034.
Deepest of deep joys.
I bet there were loads of loud mouths who spouted off about LIV golf, but will all of a sudden have a modified opinion of well we must engage with these countries in order to enact change.1 -
Well, the FA did consult their lawyers about the Thaskin bid, who came up with the opinion that "Fit and proper" to own a Football club included actual UN wanted war criminals.FrancisUrquhart said:
We are going to get all the nonsense again of the virtual signalling of "I absolutely stand against the terrible social policies of KSA"...."so you won't go and take their millions for working at the tournament"....."sorry I am very busy, I must go now".....TheScreamingEagles said:So Saudi Arabia have won the men's soccer world cup tournament in 2034.
Deepest of deep joys.
I think after that, the idea that morality is involved in high end football went out..... the window.0 -
I suspect most people enable location as well.TheScreamingEagles said:
These are the permissions it has on my phone.Flatlander said:
Your messages might be secure but what other information does the app slurp up when you aren't looking?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Maybe you don't care but I'd 100% use a burner phone if I was forced to install it.
What I don't like is that they read all your contacts so that they can 'match them with existing users for convenience'.
In other words - your phone number ends up with Meta just through knowing someone who uses WhatsApp.
And you can't request that they delete your shadow profile because you don't have a contract with them.
Never trust Zuckerberg is my motto.
Yes, I do I run a private XMPP server...1 -
I've got Signal but most of my friends do not.Malmesbury said:
WhatsApp is as secure as Suckerberg is a trustworthy, decent human being. See the problem there?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Start by moving to Signal
For government, there are a number of messaging systems that can be self hosted - so the government would actually control it.0 -
The new Everton owners are some very interesting individuals.Malmesbury said:
Well, the FA did consult their lawyers about the Thaskin bid, who came up with the opinion that "Fit and proper" to own a Football club included actual UN wanted war criminals.FrancisUrquhart said:
We are going to get all the nonsense again of the virtual signalling of "I absolutely stand against the terrible social policies of KSA"...."so you won't go and take their millions for working at the tournament"....."sorry I am very busy, I must go now".....TheScreamingEagles said:So Saudi Arabia have won the men's soccer world cup tournament in 2034.
Deepest of deep joys.
I think after that, the idea that morality is involved in high end football went out..... the window.
Something that not no publicity was the al-jazeera documentary into buying football clubs. It was actually some proper long form, long term undercover investigative journalism.
The Men Who Sell Football
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldgTCXpDEgk0 -
Will she get to share a prison with William Ian Beggs?TheScreamingEagles said:I wonder what Police Scotland make of Nicola Sturgeon deleting her WhatsApp messages?
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For those wondering how the government would define what a BullyXL is, here's the link:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog1 -
What you must remember about old people is that they are not Boris Johnson and therefore, as with everyone else who is not Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson doesn't give a sh1t about them.FrancisUrquhart said:Maybe it highlights Boris flawed personality, but you would have thought having a really bad experience with COVID would send you the other way....oh shit, that was f##king awful, we can't let old people get this.
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"Large dog with a muscular body and blocky head, suggesting great strength and power for its size. Powerfully built individual."carnforth said:For those wondering how the government would define what a BullyXL is, here's the link:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog
Harry Maguire might have to worry he doesn't get neutered.1 -
It turns out Mike Johnson only wants Hunter Biden*, out of all the tax cheats, to actually pay tax.
US House Republicans plan to give Israel $14.3bn by cutting IRS funds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/us-house-republicans-israel-irs-funding-cut
One might also consider the stupidity of a party committed to 'balancing the budget' presenting a measure which will cost the government money as something to set against funding for Israel.
But by now, stupidity is a given.
*He has already paid up.0 -
I thought this might be BR appearing at the covid inquiry referring to the then PM?FrancisUrquhart said:
"Large dog with a muscular body and blocky head, suggesting great strength and power for its size. Powerfully built individual."carnforth said:For those wondering how the government would define what a BullyXL is, here's the link:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog
Harry Maguire might have to worry he doesn't get neutered.3 -
The is the party that is jumping the shark which is also jumping over another shark?Nigelb said:It turns out Mike Johnson only wants Hunter Biden*, out of all the tax cheats, to actually pay tax.
US House Republicans plan to give Israel $14.3bn by cutting IRS funds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/us-house-republicans-israel-irs-funding-cut
One might also consider the stupidity of a party committed to 'balancing the budget' presenting a measure which will cost the government money as something to set against funding for Israel.
But by now, stupidity is a given.
*He has already paid up.
The above is the smartest thing they have done this year.0 -
I've got one running in a Docker container on my Sinology - but getting people to actually try something that isn't WhatsApp or iMessage....Flatlander said:
I suspect most people enable location as well.TheScreamingEagles said:
These are the permissions it has on my phone.Flatlander said:
Your messages might be secure but what other information does the app slurp up when you aren't looking?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Maybe you don't care but I'd 100% use a burner phone if I was forced to install it.
What I don't like is that they read all your contacts so that they can 'match them with existing users for convenience'.
In other words - your phone number ends up with Meta just through knowing someone who uses WhatsApp.
And you can't request that they delete your shadow profile because you don't have a contract with them.
Never trust Zuckerberg is my motto.
Yes, I do I run a private XMPP server...2 -
I don't recall taking part in this study...
Hearing bad grammar results in physical signs of stress, new study reveals
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-bad-grammar-results-physical-stress.html0 -
Leicester City Council leader says bankruptcy a ‘real prospect’ for authority
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/peter-soulsby-leicester-city-council-birmingham-city-council-michael-gove-government-b2438908.html0 -
From the East, unwarned
The clouds of autumn gather
Europe: in darkness
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Could be a number of elements to this. Survival bias - 'I survived it, so its ok'. Could be pure psychopath - no ability to care about others. Could be a genuine desire for balance in the government approach to an awful situation - the economy vs the lives of old fatties.FrancisUrquhart said:Maybe it highlights Boris flawed personality, but you would have thought having a really bad experience with COVID would send you the other way....oh shit, that was f##king awful, we can't let old people get this.
I can actually understand the outlook on the parties (not excusing them), they were what staffers did every Friday from the beginning of time, they all had had COVID and worked side by side, so in terms of risk, there wasn't really any. Now obviously you can't make the rules, and then ignore them. But I can see the Boris, well chaps and chapesses if the odd bottle top was to become loose when I wasn't here, well nobody will know will they. That definitely very much Boris.
But the well I was hospitalised with this thing, well I don't understand we just need the oldies to crack on and get this, as they were only to die anyway....that's a totally different sort of mental gymnastics.
I have long said that I think Partygate is overblown. I don't believe personally that Johnson did anything more than the pathetic quizes etc that were shown in the report. That staffers behave badly in his absence is more a civil service issue (and I accept that the culture should come from the top). Others will not agree with this.
But I do wonder at the Covid Bereaved for Justice People. Apparently todays stunt is a number at Barnard Castle and a Can you see this? sign for Cummings. I get that they lost people and that is awful. But there seems to be a bizarre delusion that every single covid death was preventable, if only government had not made mistakes. And yet there seems no ability to look beyond at the wider world and other nations response to covid.2 -
Are you using Windows on your laptop or pc? Windows that sends all your activity back to Microsoft? That is separate, of course, from Windows sending (sorry, backing up) your files to Microsoft in the cloud.Flatlander said:
I suspect most people enable location as well.TheScreamingEagles said:
These are the permissions it has on my phone.Flatlander said:
Your messages might be secure but what other information does the app slurp up when you aren't looking?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Maybe you don't care but I'd 100% use a burner phone if I was forced to install it.
What I don't like is that they read all your contacts so that they can 'match them with existing users for convenience'.
In other words - your phone number ends up with Meta just through knowing someone who uses WhatsApp.
And you can't request that they delete your shadow profile because you don't have a contract with them.
Never trust Zuckerberg is my motto.
Yes, I do I run a private XMPP server...0 -
It has long been the case that American bipartisanship goes in only one direction.Nigelb said:It turns out Mike Johnson only wants Hunter Biden*, out of all the tax cheats, to actually pay tax.
US House Republicans plan to give Israel $14.3bn by cutting IRS funds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/us-house-republicans-israel-irs-funding-cut
One might also consider the stupidity of a party committed to 'balancing the budget' presenting a measure which will cost the government money as something to set against funding for Israel.
But by now, stupidity is a given.
*He has already paid up.0 -
I have said from the start that I think Boris gave everybody the nudge nudge wink wink to have drinks after work as if no rules were in place, but then the staffers absolutely took the piss and had full on all night benders.turbotubbs said:
Could be a number of elements to this. Survival bias - 'I survived it, so its ok'. Could be pure psychopath - no ability to care about others. Could be a genuine desire for balance in the government approach to an awful situation - the economy vs the lives of old fatties.FrancisUrquhart said:Maybe it highlights Boris flawed personality, but you would have thought having a really bad experience with COVID would send you the other way....oh shit, that was f##king awful, we can't let old people get this.
I can actually understand the outlook on the parties (not excusing them), they were what staffers did every Friday from the beginning of time, they all had had COVID and worked side by side, so in terms of risk, there wasn't really any. Now obviously you can't make the rules, and then ignore them. But I can see the Boris, well chaps and chapesses if the odd bottle top was to become loose when I wasn't here, well nobody will know will they. That definitely very much Boris.
But the well I was hospitalised with this thing, well I don't understand we just need the oldies to crack on and get this, as they were only to die anyway....that's a totally different sort of mental gymnastics.
I have long said that I think Partygate is overblown. I don't believe personally that Johnson did anything more than the pathetic quizes etc that were shown in the report. That staffers behave badly in his absence is more a civil service issue (and I accept that the culture should come from the top). Others will not agree with this.
But I do wonder at the Covid Bereaved for Justice People. Apparently todays stunt is a number at Barnard Castle and a Can you see this? sign for Cummings. I get that they lost people and that is awful. But there seems to be a bizarre delusion that every single covid death was preventable, if only government had not made mistakes. And yet there seems no ability to look beyond at the wider world and other nations response to covid.
The problem with this, and the other stuff like having a buffet in the garden, was a) you can't make the rules, then ignore them like that and b) the cover-up, that is what always gets you.
The Covid Bereaved for Justice People are basically a Moamentum front group, run by Corbynistas.0 -
Yes, if records are potentially needed for an inquiry that means they need to be kept even beyond their standard retention time0
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Learned a new word - sequela - watching the Covid inquiry. Smartest man in the room Dominic Cummings hadn't heard of it either, so I felt a bit better about my ignorance.0
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It is also a party committed to cut taxes, though the proposal is unlikely to get passed the Democratic controlled Senate or President Biden into lawNigelb said:It turns out Mike Johnson only wants Hunter Biden*, out of all the tax cheats, to actually pay tax.
US House Republicans plan to give Israel $14.3bn by cutting IRS funds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/us-house-republicans-israel-irs-funding-cut
One might also consider the stupidity of a party committed to 'balancing the budget' presenting a measure which will cost the government money as something to set against funding for Israel.
But by now, stupidity is a given.
*He has already paid up.0 -
Yup, docker/ejabberd. Doesn't take much to set up.Malmesbury said:
I've got one running is a Docker container on my Sinology - but getting people to actually try something that isn't WhatsApp or iMessage....Flatlander said:
I suspect most people enable location as well.TheScreamingEagles said:
These are the permissions it has on my phone.Flatlander said:
Your messages might be secure but what other information does the app slurp up when you aren't looking?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Maybe you don't care but I'd 100% use a burner phone if I was forced to install it.
What I don't like is that they read all your contacts so that they can 'match them with existing users for convenience'.
In other words - your phone number ends up with Meta just through knowing someone who uses WhatsApp.
And you can't request that they delete your shadow profile because you don't have a contract with them.
Never trust Zuckerberg is my motto.
Yes, I do I run a private XMPP server...
Only for family so I am able to set up the client as well. 92 old father in law uses it a lot.
Fighting a losing battle elsewhere though when it comes to both Facebook and WhatsApp.
A shame such a sh*t company had to gain an effective monopoly on messaging. Even Google (yes, I know) would have been better.0 -
"Britain Elects
@BritainElects
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 45% (+1)
CON: 25% (-1)
LDEM: 13% (-)
REF: 7% (-1)
GRN: 6% (+2)
via @RedfieldWilton, 29 Oct"
https://twitter.com/BritainElects0 -
No, Linux. Although MS aren't as evil as Meta. And I backup to my own cloud in the garage.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Are you using Windows on your laptop or pc? Windows that sends all your activity back to Microsoft? That is separate, of course, from Windows sending (sorry, backing up) your files to Microsoft in the cloud.Flatlander said:
I suspect most people enable location as well.TheScreamingEagles said:
These are the permissions it has on my phone.Flatlander said:
Your messages might be secure but what other information does the app slurp up when you aren't looking?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's an easy and secure thing to use.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
I am so glad I didn't go into politics. I would be so buggered if my WhatsApps were made public.
Maybe you don't care but I'd 100% use a burner phone if I was forced to install it.
What I don't like is that they read all your contacts so that they can 'match them with existing users for convenience'.
In other words - your phone number ends up with Meta just through knowing someone who uses WhatsApp.
And you can't request that they delete your shadow profile because you don't have a contract with them.
Never trust Zuckerberg is my motto.
Yes, I do I run a private XMPP server...3 -
Cummings keeps criticising the government structures as unsuitable. I'm minded to suggest that if you run into an unsuitable government structure in the morning, you ran into an unsuitable government structure. If you run into unsuitable government structures all pandemic, you're the unsuitable government structure.
It's also very clear that Johnson was never PM. Cummings thought he was PM.2 -
Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.1
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You could buy two pairs of shoes for that!TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
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LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
So when is yours arriving...1 -
I can't remember who it was who said that Cummings was 100% right on the questions and 100% wrong on the answers.bondegezou said:Cummings keeps criticising the government structures as unsuitable. I'm minded to suggest that if you run into an unsuitable government structure in the morning, you ran into an unsuitable government structure. If you run into unsuitable government structures all pandemic, you're the unsuitable government structure.
It's also very clear that Johnson was never PM. Cummings thought he was PM.
The point about the Cabinet Room being less useful for decision making than in 1914 is exactly right.0 -
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
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The problem with Big Dom is always the same. He often correctly identifies a problem, then his solution is smash it all up, sack everybody and start again, but with him in charge and a couple of highly paid ML / AI people to do data analytics.....Malmesbury said:
I can't remember who it was who said that Cummings was 100% right on the questions and 100% wrong on the answers.bondegezou said:Cummings keeps criticising the government structures as unsuitable. I'm minded to suggest that if you run into an unsuitable government structure in the morning, you ran into an unsuitable government structure. If you run into unsuitable government structures all pandemic, you're the unsuitable government structure.
It's also very clear that Johnson was never PM. Cummings thought he was PM.
The point about the Cabinet Room being less useful for decision making than in 1914 is exactly right.0 -
I doubt it. What are you using the Macbook for ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
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Browsing the internet, editing PB.Pulpstar said:
I doubt it. What are you using the Macbook for ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
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As someone who used MacBooks for the best part of 20 years, I have always been impressed by their reliability but the price point for a halfway decent one now is far too high for what I use a computer for. I switched back to PCs this year and I don’t have any regrets yet.FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
So when is yours arriving...0 -
A good lesson in life is to not ask questions where you really don't want to know the answer.....Pulpstar said:
I doubt it. What are you using the Macbook for ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
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It's a party which, last time it was in power, gave an unfunded tax cut, costing trillions, to the wealthiest.HYUFD said:
It is also a party committed to cut taxes, though the proposal is unlikely to get passed the Democratic controlled Senate or President Biden into lawNigelb said:It turns out Mike Johnson only wants Hunter Biden*, out of all the tax cheats, to actually pay tax.
US House Republicans plan to give Israel $14.3bn by cutting IRS funds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/us-house-republicans-israel-irs-funding-cut
One might also consider the stupidity of a party committed to 'balancing the budget' presenting a measure which will cost the government money as something to set against funding for Israel.
But by now, stupidity is a given.
*He has already paid up.
https://www.budget.senate.gov/chairman/newsroom/press/extending-trump-tax-cuts-would-add-35-trillion-to-the-deficit-according-to-cbo
And they now, still, threaten to shut down government in order to 'balance the budget'.
Bunch of liars, grifters and wreckers.0 -
I didn't *need* the Max chip in mine. But it isn't half quick! My YouTube production capability is light years ahead of where it was before I bought the MacBook.TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
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I have an M2 mac. I have to admit its very nice and the huge advantage over a pc laptop is the insane battery life. That is something I do really love that basically I never think about needing to charge it when I am out for the day.numbertwelve said:
As someone who used MacBooks for the best part of 20 years, I have always been impressed by their reliability but the price point for a halfway decent one now is far too high for what I use a personal computer for. I switched back to PCs this year and I don’t have any regrets yet.FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
So when is yours arriving...
But....I doesn't do half the stuff I need, so it is really a fancy window onto my desktop machine and servers.0 -
Tsk, my MacBook is used for good purposes.noneoftheabove said:
A good lesson in life is to not ask questions where you really don't want to know the answer.....Pulpstar said:
I doubt it. What are you using the Macbook for ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
Just don't ask what I use my phone and iPad for though.
That said I still get nervous when my girlfriend asks to borrow my MacBook.0 -
Do you need it more than the shoes ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
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Yes and the wealthiest tend to vote Republican. The Trump tax cuts also lowered the rate for 5/7 of US income tax brackets.Nigelb said:
It's a party which, last time it was in power, gave an unfunded tax cut, costing trillions, to the wealthiest.HYUFD said:
It is also a party committed to cut taxes, though the proposal is unlikely to get passed the Democratic controlled Senate or President Biden into lawNigelb said:It turns out Mike Johnson only wants Hunter Biden*, out of all the tax cheats, to actually pay tax.
US House Republicans plan to give Israel $14.3bn by cutting IRS funds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/us-house-republicans-israel-irs-funding-cut
One might also consider the stupidity of a party committed to 'balancing the budget' presenting a measure which will cost the government money as something to set against funding for Israel.
But by now, stupidity is a given.
*He has already paid up.
https://www.budget.senate.gov/chairman/newsroom/press/extending-trump-tax-cuts-would-add-35-trillion-to-the-deficit-according-to-cbo
And they now, still, threaten to shut down government in order to 'balance the budget'.
Bunch of liars, grifters and wreckers.
One of the core reasons for voting GOP is that voters want lower taxes, if they want higher taxes and higher spending they will vote Democrat0 -
1. A good VPNTheScreamingEagles said:
Tsk, my MacBook is used for good purposes.noneoftheabove said:
A good lesson in life is to not ask questions where you really don't want to know the answer.....Pulpstar said:
I doubt it. What are you using the Macbook for ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
Just don't ask what I use my phone and iPad for though.
That said I still get nervous when my girlfriend asks to borrow my MacBook.
2. Incognito tab
3. Don't accept cookies
4. Don't supply your email address of credit card number0 -
I'm not ordering one.FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
So when is yours arriving...
I'm very happy with my MacBook Air with the M2 chip that I got last year.0 -
On Topic - Note that issue of text & etc. that "disappear" at inopportune (at least from one perspective) moments, is NOT exclusive to UK.
For example, missing texts & etc. by & from Seattle's (then) mayor, (ditto) police chief, etc. covering the period during civil unrest following murder of George Floyd.
Personally have not run into ANYONE in the Emerald City who believes this was due to innocent mistake and/or incompetence. Instead, we think that the texts & etc. were MADE to disappear.
You can guess who we think was responsible for THAT.
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I think it’s fair to say that a well-designed IT security protocol for a government department, would look nothing like it turns out to have looked in many departments during the pandemic.FrancisUrquhart said:Is it just me, all the liberal use of Whatsapp through government seems errh a tad problematic from a security point of view.
The biggest practicical issues with any such policies, are of course the heads of department and the senior managers who expect to be treated differently to the rank and file. It’s the same in any organisation.2 -
I am currently on a shoe moratorium.Nigelb said:
Do you need it more than the shoes ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
I am now under an embargo of one out then one in.0 -
If you’re doing game engine rendering, or copious amounts of 4k video editing, then hell yeah.TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
Only a handful of years ago, that spec would be a £30-50k workstation. Now it’s in a laptop!1 -
It depends what you actually need. Overspeccing is a big issue with many people. My sister in law work in retail - she browses the internet, video calls, watches movies. She has a high end MacPro with all the trimmings.numbertwelve said:
As someone who used MacBooks for the best part of 20 years, I have always been impressed by their reliability but the price point for a halfway decent one now is far too high for what I use a computer for. I switched back to PCs this year and I don’t have any regrets yet.FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
So when is yours arriving...
The simplest Mac Air (£999) would do that for her, easily.
I got an earlier model for my wife. Once, when we were on holiday, she went out shopping for the afternoon. I decided to do some code research on the terrace - borrowed her Air and later realised that I was running an Oracle DB in a VM, while running the app I was playing with. And watching a video in background....3 -
Best make it two out and two in.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am currently on a shoe moratorium.Nigelb said:
Do you need it more than the shoes ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
I am now under an embargo of one out then one in.5 -
I do a lot of 4K recording at 60 FPS on my phone.Sandpit said:
If you’re doing game engine rendering, or copious amounts of 4k video editing, then hell yeah.TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
Only a handful of years ago, that spec would be a £30-50k workstation. Now it’s in a laptop!
I can edit it very well on a MacBook Air with 24 GB of RAM.0 -
Slacker - you can spend £20K on the Mac ProTheScreamingEagles said:
Browsing the internet, editing PB.Pulpstar said:
I doubt it. What are you using the Macbook for ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
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Cutting the IRS funding isn't a tax cut; it's deliberately encouraging tax fraud, while pretending to save money.HYUFD said:
Yes and the wealthiest tend to vote Republican. The Trump tax cuts also lowered the rate for 5/7 of US income tax brackets.Nigelb said:
It's a party which, last time it was in power, gave an unfunded tax cut, costing trillions, to the wealthiest.HYUFD said:
It is also a party committed to cut taxes, though the proposal is unlikely to get passed the Democratic controlled Senate or President Biden into lawNigelb said:It turns out Mike Johnson only wants Hunter Biden*, out of all the tax cheats, to actually pay tax.
US House Republicans plan to give Israel $14.3bn by cutting IRS funds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/us-house-republicans-israel-irs-funding-cut
One might also consider the stupidity of a party committed to 'balancing the budget' presenting a measure which will cost the government money as something to set against funding for Israel.
But by now, stupidity is a given.
*He has already paid up.
https://www.budget.senate.gov/chairman/newsroom/press/extending-trump-tax-cuts-would-add-35-trillion-to-the-deficit-according-to-cbo
And they now, still, threaten to shut down government in order to 'balance the budget'.
Bunch of liars, grifters and wreckers.
One of the core reasons for voting GOP is that voters want lower taxes, if they want higher taxes and higher spending they will vote Democrat
This from a House Speaker who has been intimately involved in the investigation of a private individual... for tax fraud. And proposes, as Speaker, to continue wasting the time of the House of Representatives continuing that investigation.0 -
Leicester! Puts Tammany Hall to shame.FrancisUrquhart said:Leicester City Council leader says bankruptcy a ‘real prospect’ for authority
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/peter-soulsby-leicester-city-council-birmingham-city-council-michael-gove-government-b2438908.html
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/30/keith-vaz-and-claudia-webbe-could-stand-as-independents-in-leicester-east
"(Sir Peter) Soulsby, who is serving his fourth term as Labour mayor and is a former MP for Leicester South, said his former political rival Vaz and the current MP Webbe were known to be plotting to stand again as independent MPs.
“We could well have two disgraced former Labour party candidates standing in the seat. People are saying that this is a real possibility and it might split the vote and let the Tories in. We as a party need to have a good and credible candidate in place as soon as possible,” he said.
“Keith has been a cancer in the political body of Leicester for decades and like many others in the Labour party in the city I am relieved that the party has realised and has had the courage to cut him out."
I have to say I remember, years ago, being at a loss to understand how Vaz was made chair of the Home Affairs select committee. He was just so ghastly. Wasn't at all surprised when he had to resign.0 -
Wifey advised that I do the same with watches. So I only bought cheapie retro Casio ones recently. But all are currently reduced to weekend wear only as the Apple Watch is all conquering during the week when I need to keep up with multiple alerts from various apps.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am currently on a shoe moratorium.Nigelb said:
Do you need it more than the shoes ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
I am now under an embargo of one out then one in.1 -
I'm currently contemplating an upgrade to 128GB and 16 core, but for £1500 not £7000.Sandpit said:
If you’re doing game engine rendering, or copious amounts of 4k video editing, then hell yeah.TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
Only a handful of years ago, that spec would be a £30-50k workstation. Now it’s in a laptop!
Photogrammetry is memory hungry...1 -
SystemSettings > Users&Groups > ADD USER.TheScreamingEagles said:
Tsk, my MacBook is used for good purposes.noneoftheabove said:
A good lesson in life is to not ask questions where you really don't want to know the answer.....Pulpstar said:
I doubt it. What are you using the Macbook for ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
Just don't ask what I use my phone and iPad for though.
That said I still get nervous when my girlfriend asks to borrow my MacBook.
Make her user a standard user not an admin, and don’t give her your password. You can both even log in at the same time, and switch between you from the screen saver screen.2 -
At least the WAGs of Manchester and Liverpool won’t be wanting to go to this one!TheScreamingEagles said:So Saudi Arabia have won the men's soccer world cup tournament in 2034.
Deepest of deep joys.0 -
Just set up a user account for her, and switch to it. Also useful for work to have a "giving a presentation" account.TheScreamingEagles said:
Tsk, my MacBook is used for good purposes.noneoftheabove said:
A good lesson in life is to not ask questions where you really don't want to know the answer.....Pulpstar said:
I doubt it. What are you using the Macbook for ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
Just don't ask what I use my phone and iPad for though.
That said I still get nervous when my girlfriend asks to borrow my MacBook.1 -
Slightly more prosaic setting but more dramatic.Leon said:From the East, unwarned
The clouds of autumn gather
Europe: in darkness
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There are a number of MPs in all parties, who should never have passed basic vetting. Let alone being adopted as candidates.Burgessian said:
Leicester! Puts Tammany Hall to shame.FrancisUrquhart said:Leicester City Council leader says bankruptcy a ‘real prospect’ for authority
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/peter-soulsby-leicester-city-council-birmingham-city-council-michael-gove-government-b2438908.html
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/30/keith-vaz-and-claudia-webbe-could-stand-as-independents-in-leicester-east
"(Sir Peter) Soulsby, who is serving his fourth term as Labour mayor and is a former MP for Leicester South, said his former political rival Vaz and the current MP Webbe were known to be plotting to stand again as independent MPs.
“We could well have two disgraced former Labour party candidates standing in the seat. People are saying that this is a real possibility and it might split the vote and let the Tories in. We as a party need to have a good and credible candidate in place as soon as possible,” he said.
“Keith has been a cancer in the political body of Leicester for decades and like many others in the Labour party in the city I am relieved that the party has realised and has had the courage to cut him out."
I have to say I remember, years ago, being at a loss to understand how Vaz was made chair of the Home Affairs select committee. He was just so ghastly. Wasn't at all surprised when he had to resign.0 -
The best lesson learnt from the covid inquiry we could possibly take is the need to ensure that the cabinet is made up of people of the calibre of Hugo Keith rather than the likes of Gavin Williamson, Matt Hancock or Boris Johnson.0
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Wouldn't two in two out make more sense?TheScreamingEagles said:
I am currently on a shoe moratorium.Nigelb said:
Do you need it more than the shoes ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I mean do I really need 128 GB of RAM?FrancisUrquhart said:
LOL....I knew when they were giving it the its only $1600 there was going to be a massive sting in the tail.TheScreamingEagles said:Customising the new MacBooks to the highest specs sets you back £7,299.
I am now under an embargo of one out then one in.1 -
Courthouse News Service - Poll: Trump keeps big lead in Iowa, but Haley moves up to tie with DeSantis
Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley “are on ground that you could only describe as shaky compared to the solid ground that Donald Trump stands on,” said pollster J. Ann Selzer.
DES MOINES, Iowa (CN) — Despite his legal troubles, former President Donald Trump maintains a commanding 27-point lead in Iowa over his nearest rivals for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, according to a new poll published Monday by the Des Moines Register. Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley moved up to tie for second with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
Forty-three percent of Iowa Republicans likely to attend their party caucuses Jan. 15, 2024, declared Trump their top pick, which is up a tick from his support among 42% of likely GOP caucusgoers in the Register’s August poll.
Haley and DeSantis were tied at 16% in Monday’s poll, with the remainder of the field of major Republican candidates trailing in single digits.
“That’s a drop of 3 percentage points for DeSantis, who was the first choice of 19% of caucusgoers in August,” the Register reported. “And it’s a 10-point jump for Haley, who was at 6%.” Haley doubled her support among independent voters, the Register reported. . . .
The poll, done in association with NBC News and Mediacom, has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.
Iowa Republicans will gather in precinct caucuses Jan. 15, 2024, to begin the delegate selection process, which is the first measure of voters’ sentiment heading into the November 2024 election. Monday’s Iowa poll results for the second spot suggest Iowa voters may have begun sorting out their preferences after seeing nearly a dozen GOP hopefuls traversing the state in recent months. . . .
Although U.S. Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina has devoted time and resources to campaigning in Iowa, the poll showed him with just 7% of potential caucusgoers' support, down 2 percentage points from the August poll. Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy and former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie were tied at 4%.
Former Vice President Mike Pence announced Saturday he was dropping out of the race.
Trump holds a larger lead nationally, with the support of 56.9% of Republicans as of Oct. 28, according to an average of polls by the website FiveThirtyEight. DeSantis was in second place with 14.1%, followed by Haley at 8%, based on the national polling average.
The Register poll, conducted Oct. 22-26, is based on telephone interviews with 404 registered voters in Iowa who say they will definitely or probably attend the 2024 Republican caucuses.
https://www.courthousenews.com/poll-trump-keeps-big-lead-in-iowa-but-haley-moves-up-to-tie-with-desantis/
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There are a large number of MPs who I would attach it to but against Keith Va. it’s a bit unfair. He did a lot of work for the victims of BCCI that no one else cared about(thinking back to my 1991 summer job of getting the data asap).Malmesbury said:
There are a number of MPs in all parties, who should never have passed basic vetting. Let alone being adopted as candidates.Burgessian said:
Leicester! Puts Tammany Hall to shame.FrancisUrquhart said:Leicester City Council leader says bankruptcy a ‘real prospect’ for authority
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/peter-soulsby-leicester-city-council-birmingham-city-council-michael-gove-government-b2438908.html
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/30/keith-vaz-and-claudia-webbe-could-stand-as-independents-in-leicester-east
"(Sir Peter) Soulsby, who is serving his fourth term as Labour mayor and is a former MP for Leicester South, said his former political rival Vaz and the current MP Webbe were known to be plotting to stand again as independent MPs.
“We could well have two disgraced former Labour party candidates standing in the seat. People are saying that this is a real possibility and it might split the vote and let the Tories in. We as a party need to have a good and credible candidate in place as soon as possible,” he said.
“Keith has been a cancer in the political body of Leicester for decades and like many others in the Labour party in the city I am relieved that the party has realised and has had the courage to cut him out."
I have to say I remember, years ago, being at a loss to understand how Vaz was made chair of the Home Affairs select committee. He was just so ghastly. Wasn't at all surprised when he had to resign.0 -
Belay that - just realised they're the screen at thV&A.Theuniondivvie said:
Slightly more prosaic setting but more dramatic.Leon said:From the East, unwarned
The clouds of autumn gather
Europe: in darkness0 -
Cummings is an interesting man. Being angry and smug at the same time is quite a difficult combination to pull off but he absolutely owns it.bondegezou said:Cummings keeps criticising the government structures as unsuitable. I'm minded to suggest that if you run into an unsuitable government structure in the morning, you ran into an unsuitable government structure. If you run into unsuitable government structures all pandemic, you're the unsuitable government structure.
It's also very clear that Johnson was never PM. Cummings thought he was PM.2 -
I am both smug and happy.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Cummings is an interesting man. Being angry and smug at the same time is quite a difficult combination to pull off but he absolutely owns it.bondegezou said:Cummings keeps criticising the government structures as unsuitable. I'm minded to suggest that if you run into an unsuitable government structure in the morning, you ran into an unsuitable government structure. If you run into unsuitable government structures all pandemic, you're the unsuitable government structure.
It's also very clear that Johnson was never PM. Cummings thought he was PM.
I am the smuggest person in the room.
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Nothing prosaic about the silvery Tay with the Kingdom of Fife behind it.Theuniondivvie said:
Slightly more prosaic setting but more dramatic.Leon said:From the East, unwarned
The clouds of autumn gather
Europe: in darkness2 -
“Git” is absolutely fineNigelb said:
From the east, unwishedLeon said:From the East, unwarned
The clouds of autumn gather
Europe: in darkness
A sad git* posts doom:
PB unperturbed.
*Sorry about git, but only had one syllable.
But in a true haiku you always needs a reference to the passing seasons. Tut0 -
As Mr Macgonagall had it:OnlyLivingBoy said:
Nothing prosaic about the silvery Tay with the Kingdom of Fife behind it.Theuniondivvie said:
Slightly more prosaic setting but more dramatic.Leon said:From the East, unwarned
The clouds of autumn gather
Europe: in darkness
Beautiful silvery Tay,
With your landscapes, so lovely and gay,
Along each side of your waters, to Perth all the way;
No other river in the world has got scenery more fine,
Only I am told the beautiful Rhine,
Near to Wormit Bay, it seems very fine,
Where the Railway Bridge is towering above its waters sublime,
And the beautiful ship Mars,
With her Juvenile Tars,
Both lively and gay,
Does carelessly lie
By night and by day,
In the beautiful Bay
Of the silvery Tay.2 -
Their dynamic reminds me a little bit of Bogarde and Fox in The Servant.bondegezou said:Cummings keeps criticising the government structures as unsuitable. I'm minded to suggest that if you run into an unsuitable government structure in the morning, you ran into an unsuitable government structure. If you run into unsuitable government structures all pandemic, you're the unsuitable government structure.
It's also very clear that Johnson was never PM. Cummings thought he was PM.0 -
Government by WhatsApp is an undesirable development I feel - but if they do it then I should hope they do delete everything or else, when leaked, it becomes akin to a phone-tap.TheScreamingEagles said:I wonder what Police Scotland make of Nicola Sturgeon deleting her WhatsApp messages?
She really has trashed her reputation2 -
She deleted or could not recall anything of all her time as Imelda. She is a wrong unTheScreamingEagles said:I wonder what Police Scotland make of Nicola Sturgeon deleting her WhatsApp messages?
She really has trashed her reputation0 -
Not far off, the V&A caff. A tantalising glimpse of the Disco..Carnyx said:
Broughty? I can't mind the lumps in the foreground.Theuniondivvie said:
Slightly more prosaic setting but more dramatic.Leon said:From the East, unwarned
The clouds of autumn gather
Europe: in darkness
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The correct way to do it is with an app like Signal, which can be set to auto-delete all messages after 24 or 48 hours. Have a protocol that these platforms are to be used in the same way as a phone call or face-to-face conversation, and that all communication between officials needs to be through a managed service such as Teams or Slack.Stocky said:
Government by WhatsApp is an undesirable development I feel - but if they do it then I should hope they do delete everything or else, when leaked, it becomes akin to a phone-tap.TheScreamingEagles said:I wonder what Police Scotland make of Nicola Sturgeon deleting her WhatsApp messages?
She really has trashed her reputation1 -
Git is how I keep track of my releases as well.Leon said:
“Git” is absolutely fineNigelb said:
From the east, unwishedLeon said:From the East, unwarned
The clouds of autumn gather
Europe: in darkness
A sad git* posts doom:
PB unperturbed.
*Sorry about git, but only had one syllable.
But in a true haiku you always needs a reference to the passing seasons. Tut0
