Biden now clear betting favourite to win WH2024 – politicalbetting.com
If those who gamble on American politics have got this right then next year’s White House Race will be between the two nominees from 2020 and two very old men.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
Well, at the risk of re-stating old arguments, attitudes to ageing are very different between the UK and US.
It is quite normal in the US for physically fit people to continue to live the American dream: to work hard into their seventies, eighties, and even nineties. Senator Strom Thurmond was a Senator at 100! Utterly unthinkable in the UK.
They don't have the same view of putting themselves out to grass.
That doesn't mean they are right and that Mike is wrong. I'm just pointing out that it's perfectly de rigueur in the US.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
Well, at the risk of re-stating old arguments, attitudes to ageing are very different between the UK and US.
It is quite normal in the US for physically fit people to continue to live the American dream: to work hard into their seventies, eighties, and even nineties. Senator Strom Thurmond was a Senator at 100! Utterly unthinkable in the UK…
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.
It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.
What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
Here's the main.
Is that vegan "pork"?
Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
You're just jealous.
Nothing to stop you ordering the same or having a surreptitiously danger-wank over it later on.
Casino, mate, genuinely we need to stop this little vegan/meat eater spat. I only tell you to go vegan because I know it winds you up. For what it's worth, my veganism isn't a religion, it's just a dietary and lifestyle choice after re assessing my own health and fitness after my wife's brush with breast cancer. Plus equally importantly, we really should be kinder to non humans and the planet in general. It's not down to me to judge how anyone else eats. So enjoy that pork, yer dirty meat eating bastard!🤣🤪
Well done for taking stock of your health and fitness - that's great. Veganism sadly is unlikely to help you acheive your long term health and fitness goals, as the diet is very poor in nutrient dense health-giving foods, and it denies the vegan a lot of the foods like butter and eggs that can help to ameliorate a vegetarian diet. A human cannot live a healthy and full life on a vegan diet, without fortifying their diet with synthetic b-vitamins, which I hope you're taking care of. You may also struggle with Vitamin D, iron, calcium, and others.
I would advise you to introduce some foods brought to us by the animal kingdom, for example, eggs from hens you keep or a trusted ethical supplier, or plain yoghurt made with organic milk.
Cheers, mate, but I'm sorry, you're factually incorrect on the nutritional aspects of a well balanced vegan diet. I don't struggle getting any essential nutrients and vitamins. As with anything, we all research information from our own chosen sources, so we'll have to agree to disagree .
No, I'm correct. There are no plant foods that can be shown to contain Vitamin B12 in sufficient quantity/bioavailability for human needs, hence things like plant milks, cereals, marmite etc. often being fortified with synthetic B12. This is not subject to debate, and you're welcome to research it from any source you'd like.
I am glad you have the zeal of the converted, and I am sure your current dietary regime has many benefits over your old regime, but you should perhaps try and see this as the beginning of your learning journey rather than the end.
It's not zeal, it's just well researched. You are of course correct about the B12. It's the only supplement I take, but I just disagree with you that a vegan diet is unhealthy.
Since B12 is synthesised by bacteria (including that from animal sources), it's hardly impossible to obtain it in a vegan diet.
It's not impossible, but I was advised by my GP at my last medical to think about a B12 as it's the one contentious element in a well balanced vegan diet. I could just eat soil like the animals do!
Sure. Point is that the supplements are as 'natural' as anything Luckguy gets from his diet.
I don't know about B12 supplements, but a lot of vitamins and minerals are better sourced naturally in foods for many reasons, as Iain has argued. They tend to be better absorbed, often have a different chemical profile (natural vitamin C is different from just 'ascorbic acid' and works better as an antioxidant), and they are often accompanied naturally within food by complementary vitamins, minerals, fats, etc., that the body also needs to make them work as they should. Calcium is a good example; it should be accompanied by a certain amount of magnesium, vitamin k, and (I think) vitamin D to work as it should, so you definitely won't get the same benefit from just taking some Calcium carbonate (common name chalk) than you would by eating some natural yoghurt of drinking some raw milk.
Utter rubbish. Natural vitamin C and synthetic are identical. Where a natural source may differ will be in providing other components that may aid absorption.
No it isn't 'utter rubbish', naturally occuring Vitamin C is a complex nutrient that has: Ascorbic acid Ascorbigon Tyrosinase J factors K factors P factors Rutin Bioflavonoids All working together to produce the antioxidant effect (yes I got that list from a web page - I was just aware of the overall concept).
Synthetic vitamin C takes one part of this, ascorbic acid, produced by boiling corn starch, and isolates it. To use this, the body has to leach all that other stuff from your own stores.
It's not a horrendous thing, but clearly naturally occuring vitamin C will be much more effective.
Furthermore, despite some totally unwarranted snark about 'as natural as anything in Luckyguy's diet', I responded civilly and in detail to NigelB, so I am not sure I deserved you to jump in with your size 11 steel toecaps. You could try being a little more polite next time, with the added benefit that you won't be made to look an utter twat.
Biden Vs Trump. What a shitshow. 360 million people and they get the choice of those two old duffers. I hope Trump wins, he does something barmy (not as barmy as nuclear war, though), then there's a bit of anarchy, he gets locked up and it all sorts itself out and someone younger and saner gets the gig.
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
At 80, even 82, on reflection, I could have handled all sorts of challenges. Now at nearly 85 I’m in a similar condition to FDR. Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
Biden Vs Trump. What a shitshow. 360 million people and they get the choice of those two old duffers. I hope Trump wins, he does something barmy (not as barmy as nuclear war, though), then there's a bit of anarchy, he gets locked up and it all sorts itself out and someone younger and saner gets the gig.
Biden Vs Trump. What a shitshow. 360 million people and they get the choice of those two old duffers. I hope Trump wins, he does something barmy (not as barmy as nuclear war, though), then there's a bit of anarchy, he gets locked up and it all sorts itself out and someone younger and saner gets the gig.
I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.
It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.
What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
Here's the main.
Is that vegan "pork"?
Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
You're just jealous.
Nothing to stop you ordering the same or having a surreptitiously danger-wank over it later on.
Casino, mate, genuinely we need to stop this little vegan/meat eater spat. I only tell you to go vegan because I know it winds you up. For what it's worth, my veganism isn't a religion, it's just a dietary and lifestyle choice after re assessing my own health and fitness after my wife's brush with breast cancer. Plus equally importantly, we really should be kinder to non humans and the planet in general. It's not down to me to judge how anyone else eats. So enjoy that pork, yer dirty meat eating bastard!🤣🤪
Well done for taking stock of your health and fitness - that's great. Veganism sadly is unlikely to help you acheive your long term health and fitness goals, as the diet is very poor in nutrient dense health-giving foods, and it denies the vegan a lot of the foods like butter and eggs that can help to ameliorate a vegetarian diet. A human cannot live a healthy and full life on a vegan diet, without fortifying their diet with synthetic b-vitamins, which I hope you're taking care of. You may also struggle with Vitamin D, iron, calcium, and others.
I would advise you to introduce some foods brought to us by the animal kingdom, for example, eggs from hens you keep or a trusted ethical supplier, or plain yoghurt made with organic milk.
Cheers, mate, but I'm sorry, you're factually incorrect on the nutritional aspects of a well balanced vegan diet. I don't struggle getting any essential nutrients and vitamins. As with anything, we all research information from our own chosen sources, so we'll have to agree to disagree .
No, I'm correct. There are no plant foods that can be shown to contain Vitamin B12 in sufficient quantity/bioavailability for human needs, hence things like plant milks, cereals, marmite etc. often being fortified with synthetic B12. This is not subject to debate, and you're welcome to research it from any source you'd like.
I am glad you have the zeal of the converted, and I am sure your current dietary regime has many benefits over your old regime, but you should perhaps try and see this as the beginning of your learning journey rather than the end.
It's not zeal, it's just well researched. You are of course correct about the B12. It's the only supplement I take, but I just disagree with you that a vegan diet is unhealthy.
Since B12 is synthesised by bacteria (including that from animal sources), it's hardly impossible to obtain it in a vegan diet.
It's not impossible, but I was advised by my GP at my last medical to think about a B12 as it's the one contentious element in a well balanced vegan diet. I could just eat soil like the animals do!
Sure. Point is that the supplements are as 'natural' as anything Luckguy gets from his diet.
I don't know about B12 supplements, but a lot of vitamins and minerals are better sourced naturally in foods for many reasons, as Iain has argued. They tend to be better absorbed, often have a different chemical profile (natural vitamin C is different from just 'ascorbic acid' and works better as an antioxidant), and they are often accompanied naturally within food by complementary vitamins, minerals, fats, etc., that the body also needs to make them work as they should. Calcium is a good example; it should be accompanied by a certain amount of magnesium, vitamin k, and (I think) vitamin D to work as it should, so you definitely won't get the same benefit from just taking some Calcium carbonate (common name chalk) than you would by eating some natural yoghurt of drinking some raw milk.
Utter rubbish. Natural vitamin C and synthetic are identical. Where a natural source may differ will be in providing other components that may aid absorption.
No it isn't 'utter rubbish', naturally occuring Vitamin C is a complex nutrient that has: Ascorbic acid Ascorbigon Tyrosinase J factors K factors P factors Rutin Bioflavonoids All working together to produce the antioxidant effect (yes I got that list from a web page - I was just aware of the overall concept).
Synthetic vitamin C takes one part of this, ascorbic acid, produced by boiling corn starch, and isolates it. To use this, the body has to leach all that other stuff from your own stores.
It's not a horrendous thing, but clearly naturally occuring vitamin C will be much more effective.
Furthermore, despite some totally unwarranted snark about 'as natural as anything in Luckyguy's diet', I responded civilly and in detail to NigelB, so I am not sure I deserved you to jump in with your size 11 steel toecaps. You could try being a little more polite next time, with the added benefit that you won't be made to look an utter twat.
Those are designed by the plant to suit itself, not its predators.
Well, at the risk of re-stating old arguments, attitudes to ageing are very different between the UK and US.
It is quite normal in the US for physically fit people to continue to live the American dream: to work hard into their seventies, eighties, and even nineties. Senator Strom Thurmond was a Senator at 100! Utterly unthinkable in the UK.
They don't have the same view of putting themselves out to grass.
That doesn't mean they are right and that Mike is wrong. I'm just pointing out that it's perfectly de rigueur in the US.
A classic example of this phenomenon is John B. Goodenough, winner of the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 2019 at the age of about 96. He did research into lithium ion batteries in the 1970s and 80s at Oxford University. In the 1980s he was head of the Inorganic Chemistry laboratory at Oxford, but he had to retire due to the university's policies on age. He then transferred to the USA, where he is still working as a researcher at The University of Texas at Austin, and is now aged 100.
I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.
It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.
What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
Here's the main.
Is that vegan "pork"?
Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
You're just jealous.
Nothing to stop you ordering the same or having a surreptitiously danger-wank over it later on.
Casino, mate, genuinely we need to stop this little vegan/meat eater spat. I only tell you to go vegan because I know it winds you up. For what it's worth, my veganism isn't a religion, it's just a dietary and lifestyle choice after re assessing my own health and fitness after my wife's brush with breast cancer. Plus equally importantly, we really should be kinder to non humans and the planet in general. It's not down to me to judge how anyone else eats. So enjoy that pork, yer dirty meat eating bastard!🤣🤪
Well done for taking stock of your health and fitness - that's great. Veganism sadly is unlikely to help you acheive your long term health and fitness goals, as the diet is very poor in nutrient dense health-giving foods, and it denies the vegan a lot of the foods like butter and eggs that can help to ameliorate a vegetarian diet. A human cannot live a healthy and full life on a vegan diet, without fortifying their diet with synthetic b-vitamins, which I hope you're taking care of. You may also struggle with Vitamin D, iron, calcium, and others.
I would advise you to introduce some foods brought to us by the animal kingdom, for example, eggs from hens you keep or a trusted ethical supplier, or plain yoghurt made with organic milk.
Cheers, mate, but I'm sorry, you're factually incorrect on the nutritional aspects of a well balanced vegan diet. I don't struggle getting any essential nutrients and vitamins. As with anything, we all research information from our own chosen sources, so we'll have to agree to disagree .
No, I'm correct. There are no plant foods that can be shown to contain Vitamin B12 in sufficient quantity/bioavailability for human needs, hence things like plant milks, cereals, marmite etc. often being fortified with synthetic B12. This is not subject to debate, and you're welcome to research it from any source you'd like.
I am glad you have the zeal of the converted, and I am sure your current dietary regime has many benefits over your old regime, but you should perhaps try and see this as the beginning of your learning journey rather than the end.
It's not zeal, it's just well researched. You are of course correct about the B12. It's the only supplement I take, but I just disagree with you that a vegan diet is unhealthy.
Since B12 is synthesised by bacteria (including that from animal sources), it's hardly impossible to obtain it in a vegan diet.
It's not impossible, but I was advised by my GP at my last medical to think about a B12 as it's the one contentious element in a well balanced vegan diet. I could just eat soil like the animals do!
Sure. Point is that the supplements are as 'natural' as anything Luckguy gets from his diet.
I don't know about B12 supplements, but a lot of vitamins and minerals are better sourced naturally in foods for many reasons, as Iain has argued. They tend to be better absorbed, often have a different chemical profile (natural vitamin C is different from just 'ascorbic acid' and works better as an antioxidant), and they are often accompanied naturally within food by complementary vitamins, minerals, fats, etc., that the body also needs to make them work as they should. Calcium is a good example; it should be accompanied by a certain amount of magnesium, vitamin k, and (I think) vitamin D to work as it should, so you definitely won't get the same benefit from just taking some Calcium carbonate (common name chalk) than you would by eating some natural yoghurt of drinking some raw milk.
Utter rubbish. Natural vitamin C and synthetic are identical. Where a natural source may differ will be in providing other components that may aid absorption.
No it isn't 'utter rubbish', naturally occuring Vitamin C is a complex nutrient that has: Ascorbic acid Ascorbigon Tyrosinase J factors K factors P factors Rutin Bioflavonoids All working together to produce the antioxidant effect (yes I got that list from a web page - I was just aware of the overall concept).
Synthetic vitamin C takes one part of this, ascorbic acid, produced by boiling corn starch, and isolates it. To use this, the body has to leach all that other stuff from your own stores.
It's not a horrendous thing, but clearly naturally occuring vitamin C will be much more effective.
Furthermore, despite some totally unwarranted snark about 'as natural as anything in Luckyguy's diet', I responded civilly and in detail to NigelB, so I am not sure I deserved you to jump in with your size 11 steel toecaps. You could try being a little more polite next time, with the added benefit that you won't be made to look an utter twat.
Nope. Vitamin C is ascorbic acid. I’ll give you the salts of the acid too if you like. The rest are other things, yes cofactors, as I said - other elements that may assist with absorption (and other effects). But at heart, vitamin C is not different from synthetic vitamin C. If you are arguing that it’s better to get it from diet, I totally agree with you. I just hate the concept that natural chemicals are somehow different from synthetic.
I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.
It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.
What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
Here's the main.
Is that vegan "pork"?
Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
You're just jealous.
Nothing to stop you ordering the same or having a surreptitiously danger-wank over it later on.
Casino, mate, genuinely we need to stop this little vegan/meat eater spat. I only tell you to go vegan because I know it winds you up. For what it's worth, my veganism isn't a religion, it's just a dietary and lifestyle choice after re assessing my own health and fitness after my wife's brush with breast cancer. Plus equally importantly, we really should be kinder to non humans and the planet in general. It's not down to me to judge how anyone else eats. So enjoy that pork, yer dirty meat eating bastard!🤣🤪
Well done for taking stock of your health and fitness - that's great. Veganism sadly is unlikely to help you acheive your long term health and fitness goals, as the diet is very poor in nutrient dense health-giving foods, and it denies the vegan a lot of the foods like butter and eggs that can help to ameliorate a vegetarian diet. A human cannot live a healthy and full life on a vegan diet, without fortifying their diet with synthetic b-vitamins, which I hope you're taking care of. You may also struggle with Vitamin D, iron, calcium, and others.
I would advise you to introduce some foods brought to us by the animal kingdom, for example, eggs from hens you keep or a trusted ethical supplier, or plain yoghurt made with organic milk.
Cheers, mate, but I'm sorry, you're factually incorrect on the nutritional aspects of a well balanced vegan diet. I don't struggle getting any essential nutrients and vitamins. As with anything, we all research information from our own chosen sources, so we'll have to agree to disagree .
No, I'm correct. There are no plant foods that can be shown to contain Vitamin B12 in sufficient quantity/bioavailability for human needs, hence things like plant milks, cereals, marmite etc. often being fortified with synthetic B12. This is not subject to debate, and you're welcome to research it from any source you'd like.
I am glad you have the zeal of the converted, and I am sure your current dietary regime has many benefits over your old regime, but you should perhaps try and see this as the beginning of your learning journey rather than the end.
It's not zeal, it's just well researched. You are of course correct about the B12. It's the only supplement I take, but I just disagree with you that a vegan diet is unhealthy.
Since B12 is synthesised by bacteria (including that from animal sources), it's hardly impossible to obtain it in a vegan diet.
It's not impossible, but I was advised by my GP at my last medical to think about a B12 as it's the one contentious element in a well balanced vegan diet. I could just eat soil like the animals do!
Sure. Point is that the supplements are as 'natural' as anything Luckguy gets from his diet.
I don't know about B12 supplements, but a lot of vitamins and minerals are better sourced naturally in foods for many reasons, as Iain has argued. They tend to be better absorbed, often have a different chemical profile (natural vitamin C is different from just 'ascorbic acid' and works better as an antioxidant), and they are often accompanied naturally within food by complementary vitamins, minerals, fats, etc., that the body also needs to make them work as they should. Calcium is a good example; it should be accompanied by a certain amount of magnesium, vitamin k, and (I think) vitamin D to work as it should, so you definitely won't get the same benefit from just taking some Calcium carbonate (common name chalk) than you would by eating some natural yoghurt of drinking some raw milk.
Utter rubbish. Natural vitamin C and synthetic are identical. Where a natural source may differ will be in providing other components that may aid absorption.
No it isn't 'utter rubbish', naturally occuring Vitamin C is a complex nutrient that has: Ascorbic acid Ascorbigon Tyrosinase J factors K factors P factors Rutin Bioflavonoids All working together to produce the antioxidant effect (yes I got that list from a web page - I was just aware of the overall concept).
Synthetic vitamin C takes one part of this, ascorbic acid, produced by boiling corn starch, and isolates it. To use this, the body has to leach all that other stuff from your own stores.
It's not a horrendous thing, but clearly naturally occuring vitamin C will be much more effective.
Furthermore, despite some totally unwarranted snark about 'as natural as anything in Luckyguy's diet', I responded civilly and in detail to NigelB, so I am not sure I deserved you to jump in with your size 11 steel toecaps. You could try being a little more polite next time, with the added benefit that you won't be made to look an utter twat.
Nope. Vitamin C is ascorbic acid. I’ll give you the salts of the acid too if you like. The rest are other things, yes cofactors, as I said - other elements that may assist with absorption (and other effects). But at heart, vitamin C is not different from synthetic vitamin C. If you are arguing that it’s better to get it from diet, I totally agree with you. I just hate the concept that natural chemicals are somehow different from synthetic.
Also, apols for seeming rude. Not intentional, but pretty badly phrased by me.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
Yes she can, she is not very popular with the Black vote. Indeed in 2020 Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than even Hillary did in 2016, let alone Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Biden only won because he won White suburban voters who had voted for Trump in 2016. Biden will switch Harris to Secretary of State and make Buttigieg his VP nominee to appeal to those white suburban voters
I find it curious to hear some saying Biden is too old to be President for a second term yet we have a Government one of whose primary economic aims is to bring more older people back into the workplace.
Curiously, 71% of over 50s trying to get back into the workplace experience ageism so the Government's desire to bring older people back into work isn't the desire of business it would seem.
Perhaps it's time to consider quotas so we can have a genuinely multi-generational workforce.
We also had someone on here quoting a Julie Burchill piece so riven with inaccuracies and misconceptions it could pass for a political manifesto. She bases her argument on the Census Day report in 2021 showing 57% of adults over 16 in employment and builds the familiar old diatribe about the perils of WFH and how we've all become work shy and lazy (forgive me as I stifle a yawn). The problem is the correct figure is 78% according to that bunch of lefties, the CBI:
There are just under 9 million economically inactive but only 20% of that group are looking for work - perhaps we should also note the rate of unemployment among those with disabilities compared to the national rate.In addition, 1 million women are carers - how do we make work a viable activity for them?
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
At 80, even 82, on reflection, I could have handled all sorts of challenges. Now at nearly 85 I’m in a similar condition to FDR. Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
You make an excellent point
Biden shows lapses of concentration even now, but reductions in mobility become much more frequent and irreversible as you age
Biden Vs Trump. What a shitshow. 360 million people and they get the choice of those two old duffers. I hope Trump wins, he does something barmy (not as barmy as nuclear war, though), then there's a bit of anarchy, he gets locked up and it all sorts itself out and someone younger and saner gets the gig.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
Yes she can, she is not very popular with the Black vote. Indeed in 2020 Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than even Hillary did in 2016, let alone Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Biden only won because he won White suburban voters who had voted for Trump in 2016. Biden will switch Harris to Secretary of State and make Buttigieg his VP nominee to appeal to those white suburban voters
There's a big difference between KH being unpopular with the black vote (if she is, I'm not sure), and how black voters would react to a black female VP being removed for a white man. If she can get a 'promotion' to the SC, that might be sellable. But I'm not convinced yet.
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
At 80, even 82, on reflection, I could have handled all sorts of challenges. Now at nearly 85 I’m in a similar condition to FDR. Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
You make an excellent point
Biden shows lapses of concentration even now, but reductions in mobility become much more frequent and irreversible as you age
But he would have Mob1, the most high-tech mobility scooter in the world. Satellite communications, bomb-proof, 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. Even a holder for the nuclear codes football.
I didn't know anything about De Santis but I saw the interview he did with Piers Morgan the other day and I thought he actually carried himself quite well.
Certainly out of Trump Vs De Santis it's hard to believe anyone would pick Don over Ron? 🤷♂️
Well, at the risk of re-stating old arguments, attitudes to ageing are very different between the UK and US.
It is quite normal in the US for physically fit people to continue to live the American dream: to work hard into their seventies, eighties, and even nineties. Senator Strom Thurmond was a Senator at 100! Utterly unthinkable in the UK.
They don't have the same view of putting themselves out to grass.
That doesn't mean they are right and that Mike is wrong. I'm just pointing out that it's perfectly de rigueur in the US.
A classic example of this phenomenon is John B. Goodenough, winner of the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 2019 at the age of about 96. He did research into lithium ion batteries in the 1970s and 80s at Oxford University. In the 1980s he was head of the Inorganic Chemistry laboratory at Oxford, but he had to retire due to the university's policies on age. He then transferred to the USA, where he is still working as a researcher at The University of Texas at Austin, and is now aged 100.
Betty Boothroyd was a member of the HoL at 93 when she popped her clogs. There have been and are plenty of others in the same approximate age bracket, such as Baroness Trumpington.
Google tells me that the oldest has been Manny Shinwell at 101.
One reason US Senators stay around so long is that I think they tend to gerrymander their own Electorates.
The BBC seems to have quite a cohort, for one organisation.
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
At 80, even 82, on reflection, I could have handled all sorts of challenges. Now at nearly 85 I’m in a similar condition to FDR. Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
You make an excellent point
Biden shows lapses of concentration even now, but reductions in mobility become much more frequent and irreversible as you age
But he would have Mob1, the most high-tech mobility scooter in the world. Satellite communications, bomb-proof, 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. Even a holder for the nuclear codes football.
Don’t think I can aspire to that, but as soon as I can get out of the house I’m planning to get myself some sort of electric scooter.Sadly the chap I was planning races with has recently died.
I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.
It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.
What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
Here's the main.
Is that vegan "pork"?
Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
You're just jealous.
Nothing to stop you ordering the same or having a surreptitiously danger-wank over it later on.
Casino, mate, genuinely we need to stop this little vegan/meat eater spat. I only tell you to go vegan because I know it winds you up. For what it's worth, my veganism isn't a religion, it's just a dietary and lifestyle choice after re assessing my own health and fitness after my wife's brush with breast cancer. Plus equally importantly, we really should be kinder to non humans and the planet in general. It's not down to me to judge how anyone else eats. So enjoy that pork, yer dirty meat eating bastard!🤣🤪
Well done for taking stock of your health and fitness - that's great. Veganism sadly is unlikely to help you acheive your long term health and fitness goals, as the diet is very poor in nutrient dense health-giving foods, and it denies the vegan a lot of the foods like butter and eggs that can help to ameliorate a vegetarian diet. A human cannot live a healthy and full life on a vegan diet, without fortifying their diet with synthetic b-vitamins, which I hope you're taking care of. You may also struggle with Vitamin D, iron, calcium, and others.
I would advise you to introduce some foods brought to us by the animal kingdom, for example, eggs from hens you keep or a trusted ethical supplier, or plain yoghurt made with organic milk.
Cheers, mate, but I'm sorry, you're factually incorrect on the nutritional aspects of a well balanced vegan diet. I don't struggle getting any essential nutrients and vitamins. As with anything, we all research information from our own chosen sources, so we'll have to agree to disagree .
No, I'm correct. There are no plant foods that can be shown to contain Vitamin B12 in sufficient quantity/bioavailability for human needs, hence things like plant milks, cereals, marmite etc. often being fortified with synthetic B12. This is not subject to debate, and you're welcome to research it from any source you'd like.
I am glad you have the zeal of the converted, and I am sure your current dietary regime has many benefits over your old regime, but you should perhaps try and see this as the beginning of your learning journey rather than the end.
It's not zeal, it's just well researched. You are of course correct about the B12. It's the only supplement I take, but I just disagree with you that a vegan diet is unhealthy.
Since B12 is synthesised by bacteria (including that from animal sources), it's hardly impossible to obtain it in a vegan diet.
It's not impossible, but I was advised by my GP at my last medical to think about a B12 as it's the one contentious element in a well balanced vegan diet. I could just eat soil like the animals do!
Sure. Point is that the supplements are as 'natural' as anything Luckguy gets from his diet.
I don't know about B12 supplements, but a lot of vitamins and minerals are better sourced naturally in foods for many reasons, as Iain has argued. They tend to be better absorbed, often have a different chemical profile (natural vitamin C is different from just 'ascorbic acid' and works better as an antioxidant), and they are often accompanied naturally within food by complementary vitamins, minerals, fats, etc., that the body also needs to make them work as they should. Calcium is a good example; it should be accompanied by a certain amount of magnesium, vitamin k, and (I think) vitamin D to work as it should, so you definitely won't get the same benefit from just taking some Calcium carbonate (common name chalk) than you would by eating some natural yoghurt of drinking some raw milk.
Utter rubbish. Natural vitamin C and synthetic are identical. Where a natural source may differ will be in providing other components that may aid absorption.
No it isn't 'utter rubbish', naturally occuring Vitamin C is a complex nutrient that has: Ascorbic acid Ascorbigon Tyrosinase J factors K factors P factors Rutin Bioflavonoids All working together to produce the antioxidant effect (yes I got that list from a web page - I was just aware of the overall concept).
Synthetic vitamin C takes one part of this, ascorbic acid, produced by boiling corn starch, and isolates it. To use this, the body has to leach all that other stuff from your own stores.
It's not a horrendous thing, but clearly naturally occuring vitamin C will be much more effective.
Furthermore, despite some totally unwarranted snark about 'as natural as anything in Luckyguy's diet', I responded civilly and in detail to NigelB, so I am not sure I deserved you to jump in with your size 11 steel toecaps. You could try being a little more polite next time, with the added benefit that you won't be made to look an utter twat.
Those are designed by the plant to suit itself, not its predators.
A fruit is meant to be attractive to (and therefore beneficial for) would-be eaters, so the seeds spread.
Well, at the risk of re-stating old arguments, attitudes to ageing are very different between the UK and US.
It is quite normal in the US for physically fit people to continue to live the American dream: to work hard into their seventies, eighties, and even nineties. Senator Strom Thurmond was a Senator at 100! Utterly unthinkable in the UK.
They don't have the same view of putting themselves out to grass.
That doesn't mean they are right and that Mike is wrong. I'm just pointing out that it's perfectly de rigueur in the US.
A classic example of this phenomenon is John B. Goodenough, winner of the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 2019 at the age of about 96. He did research into lithium ion batteries in the 1970s and 80s at Oxford University. In the 1980s he was head of the Inorganic Chemistry laboratory at Oxford, but he had to retire due to the university's policies on age. He then transferred to the USA, where he is still working as a researcher at The University of Texas at Austin, and is now aged 100.
Betty Boothroyd was a member of the HoL at 93 when she popped her clogs. There have been and are plenty of others in the same approximate age bracket, such as Baroness Trumpington.
Google tells me that the oldest has been Manny Shinwell at 101.
One reason US Senators stay around so long is that I think they tend to gerrymander their own Electorates.
The BBC seems to have quite a cohort, for one organisation.
Francis Jackson was organist of his local church until he was about 96. There is video of him playing the organ at age 100, admittedly rather slowly.
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
At 80, even 82, on reflection, I could have handled all sorts of challenges. Now at nearly 85 I’m in a similar condition to FDR. Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
You make an excellent point
Biden shows lapses of concentration even now, but reductions in mobility become much more frequent and irreversible as you age
But he would have Mob1, the most high-tech mobility scooter in the world. Satellite communications, bomb-proof, 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. Even a holder for the nuclear codes football.
What a Harrison Ford action movie that would make.
All that being said, I do think Biden is rather old to run again. One big concern I have is if Trump isn't the nominee the Republican will merely have to point to his age.
I know Reagan got away with it due to a magnificent one-line put down but Biden is (a) no Reagan and (b) much older.
Biden Vs Trump. What a shitshow. 360 million people and they get the choice of those two old duffers. I hope Trump wins, he does something barmy (not as barmy as nuclear war, though), then there's a bit of anarchy, he gets locked up and it all sorts itself out and someone younger and saner gets the gig.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
Yes she can, she is not very popular with the Black vote. Indeed in 2020 Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than even Hillary did in 2016, let alone Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Biden only won because he won White suburban voters who had voted for Trump in 2016. Biden will switch Harris to Secretary of State and make Buttigieg his VP nominee to appeal to those white suburban voters
There's a big difference between KH being unpopular with the black vote (if she is, I'm not sure), and how black voters would react to a black female VP being removed for a white man. If she can get a 'promotion' to the SC, that might be sellable. But I'm not convinced yet.
Black voters have no love for Harris at all, as shown by the fact Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than Gore, Kerry and Clinton, let alone Obama. Her record prosecuting blacks in California turns them off. She adds sod all to the Biden ticket electorally.
The only way Biden gets re elected is by winning the White suburban graduate swing voters again he won in 2020. To help with that he has to dump Harris and replace her with Buttigieg.
Harris can be offered Secretary of State and if she turns it down Biden can discard her
I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.
It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.
What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
Here's the main.
Is that vegan "pork"?
Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
You're just jealous.
Nothing to stop you ordering the same or having a surreptitiously danger-wank over it later on.
Casino, mate, genuinely we need to stop this little vegan/meat eater spat. I only tell you to go vegan because I know it winds you up. For what it's worth, my veganism isn't a religion, it's just a dietary and lifestyle choice after re assessing my own health and fitness after my wife's brush with breast cancer. Plus equally importantly, we really should be kinder to non humans and the planet in general. It's not down to me to judge how anyone else eats. So enjoy that pork, yer dirty meat eating bastard!🤣🤪
Well done for taking stock of your health and fitness - that's great. Veganism sadly is unlikely to help you acheive your long term health and fitness goals, as the diet is very poor in nutrient dense health-giving foods, and it denies the vegan a lot of the foods like butter and eggs that can help to ameliorate a vegetarian diet. A human cannot live a healthy and full life on a vegan diet, without fortifying their diet with synthetic b-vitamins, which I hope you're taking care of. You may also struggle with Vitamin D, iron, calcium, and others.
I would advise you to introduce some foods brought to us by the animal kingdom, for example, eggs from hens you keep or a trusted ethical supplier, or plain yoghurt made with organic milk.
Cheers, mate, but I'm sorry, you're factually incorrect on the nutritional aspects of a well balanced vegan diet. I don't struggle getting any essential nutrients and vitamins. As with anything, we all research information from our own chosen sources, so we'll have to agree to disagree .
No, I'm correct. There are no plant foods that can be shown to contain Vitamin B12 in sufficient quantity/bioavailability for human needs, hence things like plant milks, cereals, marmite etc. often being fortified with synthetic B12. This is not subject to debate, and you're welcome to research it from any source you'd like.
I am glad you have the zeal of the converted, and I am sure your current dietary regime has many benefits over your old regime, but you should perhaps try and see this as the beginning of your learning journey rather than the end.
It's not zeal, it's just well researched. You are of course correct about the B12. It's the only supplement I take, but I just disagree with you that a vegan diet is unhealthy.
Since B12 is synthesised by bacteria (including that from animal sources), it's hardly impossible to obtain it in a vegan diet.
It's not impossible, but I was advised by my GP at my last medical to think about a B12 as it's the one contentious element in a well balanced vegan diet. I could just eat soil like the animals do!
Sure. Point is that the supplements are as 'natural' as anything Luckguy gets from his diet.
I don't know about B12 supplements, but a lot of vitamins and minerals are better sourced naturally in foods for many reasons, as Iain has argued. They tend to be better absorbed, often have a different chemical profile (natural vitamin C is different from just 'ascorbic acid' and works better as an antioxidant), and they are often accompanied naturally within food by complementary vitamins, minerals, fats, etc., that the body also needs to make them work as they should. Calcium is a good example; it should be accompanied by a certain amount of magnesium, vitamin k, and (I think) vitamin D to work as it should, so you definitely won't get the same benefit from just taking some Calcium carbonate (common name chalk) than you would by eating some natural yoghurt of drinking some raw milk.
Utter rubbish. Natural vitamin C and synthetic are identical. Where a natural source may differ will be in providing other components that may aid absorption.
No it isn't 'utter rubbish', naturally occuring Vitamin C is a complex nutrient that has: Ascorbic acid Ascorbigon Tyrosinase J factors K factors P factors Rutin Bioflavonoids All working together to produce the antioxidant effect (yes I got that list from a web page - I was just aware of the overall concept).
Synthetic vitamin C takes one part of this, ascorbic acid, produced by boiling corn starch, and isolates it. To use this, the body has to leach all that other stuff from your own stores.
It's not a horrendous thing, but clearly naturally occuring vitamin C will be much more effective.
Furthermore, despite some totally unwarranted snark about 'as natural as anything in Luckyguy's diet', I responded civilly and in detail to NigelB, so I am not sure I deserved you to jump in with your size 11 steel toecaps. You could try being a little more polite next time, with the added benefit that you won't be made to look an utter twat.
Nope. Vitamin C is ascorbic acid. I’ll give you the salts of the acid too if you like. The rest are other things, yes cofactors, as I said - other elements that may assist with absorption (and other effects). But at heart, vitamin C is not different from synthetic vitamin C. If you are arguing that it’s better to get it from diet, I totally agree with you. I just hate the concept that natural chemicals are somehow different from synthetic.
Also, apols for seeming rude. Not intentional, but pretty badly phrased by me.
I am sorry I was rude. Our disagreement seems mainly about terminology rather than fundamentals.
Biden Vs Trump. What a shitshow. 360 million people and they get the choice of those two old duffers. I hope Trump wins, he does something barmy (not as barmy as nuclear war, though), then there's a bit of anarchy, he gets locked up and it all sorts itself out and someone younger and saner gets the gig.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
Yes she can, she is not very popular with the Black vote. Indeed in 2020 Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than even Hillary did in 2016, let alone Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Biden only won because he won White suburban voters who had voted for Trump in 2016. Biden will switch Harris to Secretary of State and make Buttigieg his VP nominee to appeal to those white suburban voters
There's a big difference between KH being unpopular with the black vote (if she is, I'm not sure), and how black voters would react to a black female VP being removed for a white man. If she can get a 'promotion' to the SC, that might be sellable. But I'm not convinced yet.
Black voters have no love for Harris at all, as shown by the fact Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than Gore, Kerry and Clinton, let alone Obama. Her record prosecuting blacks in California turns them off. She adds sod all to the Biden ticket electorally.
The only way Biden gets re elected is by winning the White suburban graduate swing voters again he won in 2020. To help with that he has to dump Harris and replace her with Buttigieg.
Harris can be offered Secretary of State and if she turns it down Biden can discard her
Ford changed his nominee in 1976, of course. Who was the last *elected* president to change Veep for another run? Was it Roosevelt in 1944?
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
For any sitting POTUS, ditching one's VP in favor of a different running mate for upcoming election, is exercise fraught with peril, or at least with difficulties known, and unknown.
Last one to do it: Franklin Roosevelt in 1944 when he helped engineer the replacement of VP Henry Wallace by Harry Truman. under pressure (but underlined by FDR's own political instincts) from key elements of the New Deal coalition AND his own inner circle.
Of course Wallace had replaced FDR's first VP, John Nance Garner, on the 1940 Democratic ticket, but that was because Garner refused to go along with the Third Term, plus other ideological reasons.
Note throughout his first term, Richard Nixon was wanting to figure out a way to rid himself of Spiro Agnew, and replace him with someone better. With RN's preferred replacement being John Connolly. But he simply couldn't see how he could get away with it, even at the height of his power and dominance of the Republican Party. Especially since Connolly was a Democrat!
And further note, that perhaps the most significant replacement of one VP by another, was by Abraham Lincoln, who in 1864 engineered the nomination of another Democrat, Andrew Johnson - one of the few politicos from a seceding state that had remained loyal to the Union, in place of Abe's first Veep, Hannibal Hamlin.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
For any sitting POTUS, ditching one's VP in favor of a different running mate for upcoming election, is exercise fraught with peril, or at least with difficulties known, and unknown.
Last one to do it: Franklin Roosevelt in 1944 when he helped engineer the replacement of VP Henry Wallace by Harry Truman. under pressure (but underlined by FDR's own political instincts) from key elements of the New Deal coalition AND his own inner circle.
Of course Wallace had replaced FDR's first VP, John Nance Garner, on the 1940 Democratic ticket, but that was because Garner refused to go along with the Third Term, plus other ideological reasons.
Note throughout his first term, Richard Nixon was wanting to figure out a way to rid himself of Spiro Agnew, and replace him with someone better. With RN's preferred replacement being John Connolly. But he simply couldn't see how he could get away with it, even at the height of his power and dominance of the Republican Party. Especially since Connolly was a Democrat!
And further note, that perhaps the most significant replacement of one VP by another, was by Abraham Lincoln, who in 1864 engineered the nomination of another Democrat, Andrew Johnson - one of the few politicos from a seceding state that had remained loyal to the Union, in place of Abe's first Veep, Hannibal Hamlin.
FDR was of course re elected in 1944, so it worked!
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
For any sitting POTUS, ditching one's VP in favor of a different running mate for upcoming election, is exercise fraught with peril, or at least with difficulties known, and unknown.
Last one to do it: Franklin Roosevelt in 1944 when he helped engineer the replacement of VP Henry Wallace by Harry Truman. under pressure (but underlined by FDR's own political instincts) from key elements of the New Deal coalition AND his own inner circle.
Of course Wallace had replaced FDR's first VP, John Nance Garner, on the 1940 Democratic ticket, but that was because Garner refused to go along with the Third Term, plus other ideological reasons.
Note throughout his first term, Richard Nixon was wanting to figure out a way to rid himself of Spiro Agnew, and replace him with someone better. With RN's preferred replacement being John Connolly. But he simply couldn't see how he could get away with it, even at the height of his power and dominance of the Republican Party. Especially since Connolly was a Democrat!
And further note, that perhaps the most significant replacement of one VP by another, was by Abraham Lincoln, who in 1864 engineered the nomination of another Democrat, Andrew Johnson - one of the few politicos from a seceding state that had remained loyal to the Union, in place of Abe's first Veep, Hannibal Hamlin.
FDR was of course re elected in 1944, so it worked!
For a given value of 'worked.' He did of course drop dead three months into his second term.
I recall lots of discussion of lots of VPs being changed. I don’t recall it ever happening. I file it in the “what if there’s a West Wing style unclear delegate count by the convention” thing.
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
At 80, even 82, on reflection, I could have handled all sorts of challenges. Now at nearly 85 I’m in a similar condition to FDR. Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
You make an excellent point
Biden shows lapses of concentration even now, but reductions in mobility become much more frequent and irreversible as you age
But he would have Mob1, the most high-tech mobility scooter in the world. Satellite communications, bomb-proof, 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. Even a holder for the nuclear codes football.
Don’t think I can aspire to that, but as soon as I can get out of the house I’m planning to get myself some sort of electric scooter.Sadly the chap I was planning races with has recently died.
Sad to hear. You'll just have to take on Dura Ace now...
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
For any sitting POTUS, ditching one's VP in favor of a different running mate for upcoming election, is exercise fraught with peril, or at least with difficulties known, and unknown.
Last one to do it: Franklin Roosevelt in 1944 when he helped engineer the replacement of VP Henry Wallace by Harry Truman. under pressure (but underlined by FDR's own political instincts) from key elements of the New Deal coalition AND his own inner circle.
Of course Wallace had replaced FDR's first VP, John Nance Garner, on the 1940 Democratic ticket, but that was because Garner refused to go along with the Third Term, plus other ideological reasons.
Note throughout his first term, Richard Nixon was wanting to figure out a way to rid himself of Spiro Agnew, and replace him with someone better. With RN's preferred replacement being John Connolly. But he simply couldn't see how he could get away with it, even at the height of his power and dominance of the Republican Party. Especially since Connolly was a Democrat!
And further note, that perhaps the most significant replacement of one VP by another, was by Abraham Lincoln, who in 1864 engineered the nomination of another Democrat, Andrew Johnson - one of the few politicos from a seceding state that had remained loyal to the Union, in place of Abe's first Veep, Hannibal Hamlin.
FDR was of course re elected in 1944, so it worked!
For a given value of 'worked.' He did of course drop dead three months into his second term.
His 4th term you mean! After Hoover lost to FDR in 1932 the Republicans didn't win another Presidential election for 20 years until IKE in 1952
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
For any sitting POTUS, ditching one's VP in favor of a different running mate for upcoming election, is exercise fraught with peril, or at least with difficulties known, and unknown.
Last one to do it: Franklin Roosevelt in 1944 when he helped engineer the replacement of VP Henry Wallace by Harry Truman. under pressure (but underlined by FDR's own political instincts) from key elements of the New Deal coalition AND his own inner circle.
Of course Wallace had replaced FDR's first VP, John Nance Garner, on the 1940 Democratic ticket, but that was because Garner refused to go along with the Third Term, plus other ideological reasons.
Note throughout his first term, Richard Nixon was wanting to figure out a way to rid himself of Spiro Agnew, and replace him with someone better. With RN's preferred replacement being John Connolly. But he simply couldn't see how he could get away with it, even at the height of his power and dominance of the Republican Party. Especially since Connolly was a Democrat!
And further note, that perhaps the most significant replacement of one VP by another, was by Abraham Lincoln, who in 1864 engineered the nomination of another Democrat, Andrew Johnson - one of the few politicos from a seceding state that had remained loyal to the Union, in place of Abe's first Veep, Hannibal Hamlin.
FDR was of course re elected in 1944, so it worked!
For a given value of 'worked.' He did of course drop dead three months into his second term.
Kamala Harris would be 60 in 2024 - normally you wouldn't waste a Supreme Court pick on someone that old. But of course there's no vacancy anyway.
But I did see some suggestion that maybe Sotomayor could retire - she is 70 in 2024. Obviously replacing a 70 year old with a 60 year old is a net gain for the Dems.
Seems very unlikely but IF for some reason Sotomayor did want to retire, it could work well.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
Yes she can, she is not very popular with the Black vote. Indeed in 2020 Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than even Hillary did in 2016, let alone Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Biden only won because he won White suburban voters who had voted for Trump in 2016. Biden will switch Harris to Secretary of State and make Buttigieg his VP nominee to appeal to those white suburban voters
I somewhat doubt that. There is a story going round just now about Biden losing patience with Harris, but it seems to be exclusively (and simultaneously) in right wing outlets. Which doesn’t smell right.
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
At 80, even 82, on reflection, I could have handled all sorts of challenges. Now at nearly 85 I’m in a similar condition to FDR. Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
You make an excellent point
Biden shows lapses of concentration even now, but reductions in mobility become much more frequent and irreversible as you age
But he would have Mob1, the most high-tech mobility scooter in the world. Satellite communications, bomb-proof, 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. Even a holder for the nuclear codes football.
Don’t think I can aspire to that, but as soon as I can get out of the house I’m planning to get myself some sort of electric scooter.Sadly the chap I was planning races with has recently died.
Sad to hear. You'll just have to take on Dura Ace now...
I have never voted for Biden, and don't have a high opinion of him. Nonetheless, I think he has been mostly right on foreign policy while he has been president. And I haven't seen any of the signs of senility in him that are so obvious in, for example, California's Dianne Feinstein. (He's always been gaffe prone.)
Moreover, he is doing most of the things a doctor would suggest he do to keep healthy, exercising regularly, keeping his weight down, and, as far as I can tell, mostly eating healthy.
Biden is not unique. There has been a long-term trend in the US for people not only to live longer, but to be healthier longer and longer.
(I pay closer attention than many do to these things because I will turn 80 this August -- and I currently expect to live to about 90, and be in fairly good health until then, or close to then. I am planning to make one change this year to improve my chances even further: I plan on moving closer to the mountains so I can do more cross country skiing. Incidentally, the health plan I am on will subsidize exercise in other ways, but not that. For examples of what they will do, search on "SilverSneakers".)
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
Yes she can, she is not very popular with the Black vote. Indeed in 2020 Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than even Hillary did in 2016, let alone Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Biden only won because he won White suburban voters who had voted for Trump in 2016. Biden will switch Harris to Secretary of State and make Buttigieg his VP nominee to appeal to those white suburban voters
I somewhat doubt that. There is a story going round just now about Biden losing patience with Harris, but it seems to be exclusively (and simultaneously) in right wing outlets. Which doesn’t smell right.
Harris adds nothing to the Democrat ticket electorally, she is a coastal liberal with zero charisma and without the appeal to the Black vote Obama had or the gravitas Hillary had.
DeSantis or Trump would trounce her in a Presidential election. Biden needs to remove her from his ticket in 2024 if he wants to maximise his chances of reelection
"As a 76 year-old myself I believe that this is far too old for anyone to be seeking the most powerful political position in the world."
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
At the next GE in October 24 I will be 80 + 8 months and the idea of Biden being POTUS for another term is nonsense despite some saying it is the way in the US
At 80, even 82, on reflection, I could have handled all sorts of challenges. Now at nearly 85 I’m in a similar condition to FDR. Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
You make an excellent point
Biden shows lapses of concentration even now, but reductions in mobility become much more frequent and irreversible as you age
But he would have Mob1, the most high-tech mobility scooter in the world. Satellite communications, bomb-proof, 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. Even a holder for the nuclear codes football.
Don’t think I can aspire to that, but as soon as I can get out of the house I’m planning to get myself some sort of electric scooter.Sadly the chap I was planning races with has recently died.
Sad to hear. You'll just have to take on Dura Ace now...
Kamala Harris would be 60 in 2024 - normally you wouldn't waste a Supreme Court pick on someone that old. But of course there's no vacancy anyway.
But I did see some suggestion that maybe Sotomayor could retire - she is 70 in 2024. Obviously replacing a 70 year old with a 60 year old is a net gain for the Dems.
Seems very unlikely but IF for some reason Sotomayor did want to retire, it could work well.
The "shuffle Harris off to the SC" theory has always seemed to me like one floated and passed on by people who really want to solve a problem so much that they're ignoring the implausibility of their proposed solution...
The problem with replacing Kamala Harris is that there aren't many people who tick all the identity boxes she does. I can't think of a single prominent Democrat who does. That's one of the prices of identity politics.
It's my impression that Biden understands her weaknesses, and has been trying to strengthen her by giving her tasks she can handle -- and that will teach her something.
(When Jimmy Carter was thinking about changes for his second term, he, or one of his aides, said some of their subordinates would have to go -- but not, of course, any of the women and minorities.)
The problem with replacing Kamala Harris is that there aren't many people who tick all the identity boxes she does. I can't think of a single prominent Democrat who does. That's one of the prices of identity politics.
The problem with replacing Kamala Harris is that there aren't many people who tick all the identity boxes she does. I can't think of a single prominent Democrat who does. That's one of the prices of identity politics.
It's my impression that Biden understands her weaknesses, and has been trying to strengthen her by giving her tasks she can handle -- and that will teach her something.
(When Jimmy Carter was thinking about changes for his second term, he, or one of his aides, said some of their subordinates would have to go -- but not, of course, any of the women and minorities.)
If the Democrats want to pick a VP candidate and Presidential candidate based on identity politics they will lose, badly and deserve to!
Well... for starters there's no guarantee Biden will even be alive in November 2024.
He is three years past average life expectancy for a US male so anything he gets from here is a bonus..
As an 80 yo US male, he has a life expectancy of another 7 years. Overall life expectancy is misleading (very) for someone who is already elderly.
If you're fit and healthy, you should make it into your 90s, so long as dementia/ alzheimer's don't rear their ugly head, or you succumb to cancer. More likely in your 80s but far from inevitable.
What you really want is to be pretty good, except for the usual wear and tear, and then go suddenly in your late 90s aka DofE or HMQ.
Buttigieg is already rumoured to be Biden's VP nominee if he wins the Democratic nomination again in 2024, particularly given his appeal to key white, graduate suburban swing voters who voted for Bush, Obama in 2008, narrowly for Romney in 2012, then Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020. He would shift Harris to State or the SC.
Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
For Buttigieg to be the VP nominee, the deep state would need to assassinate one of the judges so Kamala can join the Supreme Court bench. Bluntly, unless the Dems want Trump back in the White House, Kamala Harris will need to be bought off. She can't just be dropped without splitting the party.
Yes she can, she is not very popular with the Black vote. Indeed in 2020 Biden-Harris got a lower share of the black vote than even Hillary did in 2016, let alone Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Biden only won because he won White suburban voters who had voted for Trump in 2016. Biden will switch Harris to Secretary of State and make Buttigieg his VP nominee to appeal to those white suburban voters
I somewhat doubt that. There is a story going round just now about Biden losing patience with Harris, but it seems to be exclusively (and simultaneously) in right wing outlets. Which doesn’t smell right.
1. In a major political development this evening, Israel's Defense Minister Yoav Galant has called for a "pause" in the legislation of the judicial overhaul led by the Netanyahu government. In Israel, the defense minister is regarded as the second most important minister… https://twitter.com/Nadav_Eyal/status/1639714171183943680
All that being said, I do think Biden is rather old to run again. One big concern I have is if Trump isn't the nominee the Republican will merely have to point to his age.
I know Reagan got away with it due to a magnificent one-line put down but Biden is (a) no Reagan and (b) much older.
Nearly a decade older.
Is there an obvious Democratic alternative? They bemoan the Republicans as the stupid party but don't seem to be blessed with great candidates themselves.
Well... for starters there's no guarantee Biden will even be alive in November 2024.
He is three years past average life expectancy for a US male so anything he gets from here is a bonus..
As an 80 yo US male, he has a life expectancy of another 7 years. Overall life expectancy is misleading (very) for someone who is already elderly.
If you're fit and healthy, you should make it into your 90s, so long as dementia/ alzheimer's don't rear their ugly head, or you succumb to cancer. More likely in your 80s but far from inevitable.
What you really want is to be pretty good, except for the usual wear and tear, and then go suddenly in your late 90s aka DofE or HMQ.
Well... for starters there's no guarantee Biden will even be alive in November 2024.
He is three years past average life expectancy for a US male so anything he gets from here is a bonus..
As an 80 yo US male, he has a life expectancy of another 7 years. Overall life expectancy is misleading (very) for someone who is already elderly.
If you're fit and healthy, you should make it into your 90s, so long as dementia/ alzheimer's don't rear their ugly head, or you succumb to cancer. More likely in your 80s but far from inevitable.
What you really want is to be pretty good, except for the usual wear and tear, and then go suddenly in your late 90s aka DofE or HMQ.
I strongly suspect their unlikely “good health” until they suddenly dropped dead was mostly a fiction.
It was rather impolite to question the official narrative, while they were alive, but now they’re both dead I don’t feel the need to maintain the fiction. The *perfectly healthy* and then drop dead in your late 90’s thing is, I would suggest, highly unusual.
All that being said, I do think Biden is rather old to run again. One big concern I have is if Trump isn't the nominee the Republican will merely have to point to his age.
I know Reagan got away with it due to a magnificent one-line put down but Biden is (a) no Reagan and (b) much older.
Nearly a decade older.
Is there an obvious Democratic alternative? They bemoan the Republicans as the stupid party but don't seem to be blessed with great candidates themselves.
The Democrats are fortunate to have had 2 top class Presidential candidates within 20 years of each other, Obama and Bill Clinton. Otherwise they weren't able to produce a candidate of the same class before that since JFK and Bobby.
Nor have they been able to since Obama either, though Buttigieg is probably the best of the next generation they have got
Just for the record: I am not a fan of identity politics -- but am practical enough to recognize its power in the US. If, for example, I had been asked to pick a Republican ticket with the best chance of winning in 2016, I would have chosen John Kasich and Marco Rubio*. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kasich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Rubio
The US isn't the only nation where identity politics works. Correct me if I am wrong on this, but I believe David Cameron was trying to broaden the appeal of the Conservative Party by encouraging more ethnic minorities to run for parliament. And, as I understand it, the Labour Party has actually reserved seats for women.
(*Republicans do best when they nominate candidates who did not inherit wealth, Eisenhower and Reagan being the two most obvious examples. In contrast, Democrats can get away with nominating plutocrats.)
1. In a major political development this evening, Israel's Defense Minister Yoav Galant has called for a "pause" in the legislation of the judicial overhaul led by the Netanyahu government. In Israel, the defense minister is regarded as the second most important minister… https://twitter.com/Nadav_Eyal/status/1639714171183943680
Possible reprieve for democracy.
Rishi done it again has he?
In all seriousness I doubt it but if a few people around the world think that we're wielding such influence who cares?
Just for the record: I am not a fan of identity politics -- but am practical enough to recognize its power in the US. If, for example, I had been asked to pick a Republican ticket with the best chance of winning in 2016, I would have chosen John Kasich and Marco Rubio*. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kasich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Rubio
The US isn't the only nation where identity politics works. Correct me if I am wrong on this, but I believe David Cameron was trying to broaden the appeal of the Conservative Party by encouraging more ethnic minorities to run for parliament. And, as I understand it, the Labour Party has actually reserved seats for women.
(*Republicans do best when they nominate candidates who did not inherit wealth, Eisenhower and Reagan being the two most obvious examples. In contrast, Democrats can get away with nominating plutocrats.)
Oh really, the only election winning Republican Presidential candidates alive, Bush 43 and Trump, both inherited significant wealth. As did Bush 41.
Bill Clinton and Obama and Biden however didn't inherit much. Indeed the last Democrat President who did was JFK (arguably Carter too but that was mainly the family farm and business)
We finally got around to renewing our passports this week. (I haven't travelled abroad for years.)
We'd thought maybe Paris, to have a nice weekend break.
Hmmm. Nope.
No Paris will be fine. In 2024. You'll be lucky to get your new passport back by 2023.
Went up to Newport, in the Land of Dragons, to collect personally. Got booked in just before the strikes were announced.
My luck ran out at Paris though!
Newport? Paris? Much the same thing. Transporter Bridge = Eiffel Tower.
Also St Woolos Cathedral = Notre Dame. It really is quite spooky:
Oh wow that takes me back. I had sex in that churchyard. It wasn't nearly as warm that night as it seems to be in that photo.
How disrespectful, it would be a graveyard after all
So what? Sex isn't wrong and the dead don't care what we do. It's not like I was splashing over someone's floral arrangement.
It is gross disrespect, a churchyard is a sacred place for Christians connected to the Church. What do you think the reaction would be if you had sex in a Muslim cemetery from your family and Muslim friends?
It would depend on the quality of the video
He was also lucky not to be arrested for outraging public decency
That crime requires that two other people are present and capable of seeing said act. There was nobody else there other than me and my very temporary lover, so you'll have to find a new crime with which to charge me.
Luckily for you, only took an elderly married couple to have stumbled upon you while visiting a family grave and you would have been caught
The problem with replacing Kamala Harris is that there aren't many people who tick all the identity boxes she does. I can't think of a single prominent Democrat who does. That's one of the prices of identity politics.
It's my impression that Biden understands her weaknesses, and has been trying to strengthen her by giving her tasks she can handle -- and that will teach her something.
(When Jimmy Carter was thinking about changes for his second term, he, or one of his aides, said some of their subordinates would have to go -- but not, of course, any of the women and minorities.)
If the Democrats want to pick a VP candidate and Presidential candidate based on identity politics they will lose, badly and deserve to!
Of course, the Republicans pick their candidates on the quality of their ideas.
I suppose it depends how determined they are to winning.
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Buttigieg would then be in prime position to be Democratic candidate in 2028 assuming Biden is re elected.
National polling numbers at this stage should not be overstated however, if DeSantis and Pence perform well against Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire they will be right back in contention for the GOP nomination
It is quite normal in the US for physically fit people to continue to live the American dream: to work hard into their seventies, eighties, and even nineties. Senator Strom Thurmond was a Senator at 100! Utterly unthinkable in the UK.
They don't have the same view of putting themselves out to grass.
That doesn't mean they are right and that Mike is wrong. I'm just pointing out that it's perfectly de rigueur in the US.
The alternative is just too ghastly to contemplate.
I'd pay him 20,000 a day.
He could even keep the change. From a Zimbabwean 10 trillion dollar note.
This is Mike's clever double bluff to stop people thinking he's going for world domination.
Ascorbic acid
Ascorbigon
Tyrosinase
J factors
K factors
P factors
Rutin
Bioflavonoids
All working together to produce the antioxidant effect (yes I got that list from a web page - I was just aware of the overall concept).
Synthetic vitamin C takes one part of this, ascorbic acid, produced by boiling corn starch, and isolates it. To use this, the body has to leach all that other stuff from your own stores.
It's not a horrendous thing, but clearly naturally occuring vitamin C will be much more effective.
Furthermore, despite some totally unwarranted snark about 'as natural as anything in Luckyguy's diet', I responded civilly and in detail to NigelB, so I am not sure I deserved you to jump in with your size 11 steel toecaps. You could try being a little more polite next time, with the added benefit that you won't be made to look an utter twat.
And I've been a postie for six months of that
I'm planning a holiday where I'll need to walk about 400 miles in three weeks
Is that completely fucking mad?
Mentally I’m fine. Physically I’m not!
https://mobile.twitter.com/infosfrancaises/status/1639610198179581952
I has a desk job and have walked an average of 20km / day for the last 7 years.
If you are arguing that it’s better to get it from diet, I totally agree with you. I just hate the concept that natural chemicals are somehow different from synthetic.
That's 40 km per day with four rest days
That's a pilgrimage
It used to traditionally be done in four weeks
I've made it a three week race
Biden only won because he won White suburban voters who had voted for Trump in 2016. Biden will switch Harris to Secretary of State and make Buttigieg his VP nominee to appeal to those white suburban voters
I find it curious to hear some saying Biden is too old to be President for a second term yet we have a Government one of whose primary economic aims is to bring more older people back into the workplace.
Curiously, 71% of over 50s trying to get back into the workplace experience ageism so the Government's desire to bring older people back into work isn't the desire of business it would seem.
Perhaps it's time to consider quotas so we can have a genuinely multi-generational workforce.
We also had someone on here quoting a Julie Burchill piece so riven with inaccuracies and misconceptions it could pass for a political manifesto. She bases her argument on the Census Day report in 2021 showing 57% of adults over 16 in employment and builds the familiar old diatribe about the perils of WFH and how we've all become work shy and lazy (forgive me as I stifle a yawn). The problem is the correct figure is 78% according to that bunch of lefties, the CBI:
https://www.cbi.org.uk/media/bm0aiob5/14032023-cbi-pertemps-labour-market-update-mar_2023.pdf
There are just under 9 million economically inactive but only 20% of that group are looking for work - perhaps we should also note the rate of unemployment among those with disabilities compared to the national rate.In addition, 1 million women are carers - how do we make work a viable activity for them?
Biden shows lapses of concentration even now, but reductions in mobility become much more frequent and irreversible as you age
He is three years past average life expectancy for a US male so anything he gets from here is a bonus..
Certainly out of Trump Vs De Santis it's hard to believe anyone would pick Don over Ron? 🤷♂️
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWJsOaJL9yg
Google tells me that the oldest has been Manny Shinwell at 101.
One reason US Senators stay around so long is that I think they tend to gerrymander their own Electorates.
The BBC seems to have quite a cohort, for one organisation.
Infant mortality and sudden violent death rather skew the overall average...
I know Reagan got away with it due to a magnificent one-line put down but Biden is (a) no Reagan and (b) much older.
The only way Biden gets re elected is by winning the White suburban graduate swing voters again he won in 2020. To help with that he has to dump Harris and replace her with Buttigieg.
Harris can be offered Secretary of State and if she turns it down Biden can discard her
Last one to do it: Franklin Roosevelt in 1944 when he helped engineer the replacement of VP Henry Wallace by Harry Truman. under pressure (but underlined by FDR's own political instincts) from key elements of the New Deal coalition AND his own inner circle.
Of course Wallace had replaced FDR's first VP, John Nance Garner, on the 1940 Democratic ticket, but that was because Garner refused to go along with the Third Term, plus other ideological reasons.
Note throughout his first term, Richard Nixon was wanting to figure out a way to rid himself of Spiro Agnew, and replace him with someone better. With RN's preferred replacement being John Connolly. But he simply couldn't see how he could get away with it, even at the height of his power and dominance of the Republican Party. Especially since Connolly was a Democrat!
And further note, that perhaps the most significant replacement of one VP by another, was by Abraham Lincoln, who in 1864 engineered the nomination of another Democrat, Andrew Johnson - one of the few politicos from a seceding state that had remained loyal to the Union, in place of Abe's first Veep, Hannibal Hamlin.
It's become a bit of an obsession
There's so much I want to see in Brittany, and I do want to try to do the walk
Please survive the next 22 months and beat Trump, Joe.
https://newatlas.com/mobility-scooter-record/41749/
In my defence I am very tired.
But I did see some suggestion that maybe Sotomayor could retire - she is 70 in 2024. Obviously replacing a 70 year old with a 60 year old is a net gain for the Dems.
Seems very unlikely but IF for some reason Sotomayor did want to retire, it could work well.
There is a story going round just now about Biden losing patience with Harris, but it seems to be exclusively (and simultaneously) in right wing outlets. Which doesn’t smell right.
Not sure OAP go karts is quite it.
Moreover, he is doing most of the things a doctor would suggest he do to keep healthy, exercising regularly, keeping his weight down, and, as far as I can tell, mostly eating healthy.
Biden is not unique. There has been a long-term trend in the US for people not only to live longer, but to be healthier longer and longer.
(I pay closer attention than many do to these things because I will turn 80 this August -- and I currently expect to live to about 90, and be in fairly good health until then, or close to then. I am planning to make one change this year to improve my chances even further: I plan on moving closer to the mountains so I can do more cross country skiing. Incidentally, the health plan I am on will subsidize exercise in other ways, but not that. For examples of what they will do, search on "SilverSneakers".)
DeSantis or Trump would trounce her in a Presidential election. Biden needs to remove her from his ticket in 2024 if he wants to maximise his chances of reelection
It's my impression that Biden understands her weaknesses, and has been trying to strengthen her by giving her tasks she can handle -- and that will teach her something.
(When Jimmy Carter was thinking about changes for his second term, he, or one of his aides, said some of their subordinates would have to go -- but not, of course, any of the women and minorities.)
What you really want is to be pretty good, except for the usual wear and tear, and then go suddenly in your late 90s aka DofE or HMQ.
https://twitter.com/Nadav_Eyal/status/1639714171183943680
Possible reprieve for democracy.
Is there an obvious Democratic alternative? They bemoan the Republicans as the stupid party but don't seem to be blessed with great candidates themselves.
It was rather impolite to question the official narrative, while they were alive, but now they’re both dead I don’t feel the need to maintain the fiction. The *perfectly healthy* and then drop dead in your late 90’s thing is, I would suggest, highly unusual.
Nor have they been able to since Obama either, though Buttigieg is probably the best of the next generation they have got
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kasich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Rubio
The US isn't the only nation where identity politics works. Correct me if I am wrong on this, but I believe David Cameron was trying to broaden the appeal of the Conservative Party by encouraging more ethnic minorities to run for parliament. And, as I understand it, the Labour Party has actually reserved seats for women.
(*Republicans do best when they nominate candidates who did not inherit wealth, Eisenhower and Reagan being the two most obvious examples. In contrast, Democrats can get away with nominating plutocrats.)
In all seriousness I doubt it but if a few people around the world think that we're wielding such influence who cares?
Bill Clinton and Obama and Biden however didn't inherit much. Indeed the last Democrat President who did was JFK (arguably Carter too but that was mainly the family farm and business)