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I joined the Ed is crap club following his conference speech. He had one job to do this summer. He flunked it.MarqueeMark said:
Of course you mind, or you wouldn't mention it.MikeK said:It's getting pretty obvious that nearly every second thread presented by TSE is in someway anti UKIP or biased against UKIP. I think that this is a deliberate policy cooked up by TSE to keep his and Mikes end up against the coming deluge.
I don't mind myself but it's getting bloody boring.
If you feel hard done by, think of those poor people who believe Ed isn't crap....
EDIT: actually, IS there anyone who doesn't think Ed is crap?0 -
You've missed out that they have to be white as well!Itajai said:anotherDave said:The age group split on the Survation poll is interesting.
1. UKIP win every age group.
2. UKIP's support seems fairly constant across age groups ~40%.
p.8
http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Confidential-Rochester-and-Strood-Constituency-Poll-Weighted_Oct03.pdf
Is that another UKIP myth busted?
I thought only the old, the poor, the thick, and the racist voted UKIP?0 -
[I joined the Ed is crap club following his conference speech.]
That explains the Sunday papers then.
PBINFLUENCE PBINFLUENCE PBEINFLUENCE PBINFLUENCE0 -
Ttip??? LDs Are the Cia
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I'm on my phone at the moment so haven't got access to my spreadsheets, I'll ask Mike for his workings as well. But he's currently on a Spanish beach so I might not get a prompt response.anotherDave said:
Table 5 is the headline figures.TheScreamingEagles said:AnotherDave - I took the figures from what Mike supplied and others have posted.
My own calculations look like they are right. You have to look at more than table 5
"Today’s survey shows Mr Reckless on 40, with the Tories on 31 ... Labour 25 and the Lib Dems a paltry two."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2780909/Cameron-shock-MoS-poll-says-second-Ukip-defector-heading-election-win-voters-ignore-PM-s-warning-not-bed-Nigel-Farage.html
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http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Confidential-Rochester-and-Strood-Constituency-Poll-Weighted_Oct03.pdf
There are 91 'did not vote': total voters (697-91)
Ukip (281-62) 36%
Con (216-22) 32%0 -
Oh and a warning to the Kippers you might not like tonight's thread. Just a warning.0
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Bus walkers??
Sounds very very scary.0 -
Clearly the FBI and CIA are having an internal civil war within the LDs0
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Golly, never thrice. Some would say TMI...
I say, how disappointing for your bunkmate ;^ )JBriskin said:[I'm starting to think Tony really was a 5 times a night stallion]
This always worried me. I think I've gone twice, maybe twice. I'm young enough that I'm still aiming for one more twice. But 5? Nutter. Confirmed by his conversion to Catholicism.0 -
Must be the fifth time this week we've agreed. Spookyantifrank said:*coughs*
FPT:
@DavidL: yes.antifrank said:For those getting very excited about the Survation Rochester & Strood poll, consider this:
http://survation.com/newark-by-election-poll-survation-the-sun/
Survation are generally the pollsters that find the highest levels of support for UKIP. In Newark on the night the result marginally overstated UKIP, substantially overstated Labour and significantly understated the Conservatives.
Lord Ashcroft's poll was much closer to the final result (though it still understated the Conservatives and overstated Labour and UKIP):
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2014/06/tories-set-hold-newark/
This looks likely to be very close to me.0 -
Even if the Lib Dems get 30 seats, what influence do they expect to have? As kingmaker possibly, but only if Labour and Tory are very close in seats. Good luck to them in a coalition with the Tories (terrified of Ukip) where they are outnumbered 10:1, with Cameron under serious pressure from his backbenchers who are now fired up thanks to his conference speech. What if it's Labour? A coalition between those two looks much simpler on paper, but there's a danger for Clegg that as Deputy PM he'll just drift into the wilderness. Perhaps he'd choose a major department to run this time, but I suspect he'd be a fairly marginal figure in the government.0
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Yeah I think she's sensing me typing this and giving me physkic grumpsPlato said:Golly, never thrice. Some would say TMI...
I say, how disappointing for your bunkmate ;^ )JBriskin said:[I'm starting to think Tony really was a 5 times a night stallion]
This always worried me. I think I've gone twice, maybe twice. I'm young enough that I'm still aiming for one more twice. But 5? Nutter. Confirmed by his conversion to Catholicism.
Or it might just be the LD conference.
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Apparently Bus Walkers only operate on a Sunday everyone. A bit like the masons then...0
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There is great consensus that ED is CRAP, on PB
I agree on this. But I also agree that:
1) CAMERON is CRAP
2) CLEGG is CRAP
All the Lab/Lib/Con parties and associated groups are CRAP too.0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Lib Dems attacking the Conservatives hasn't worked. It didn't work last year, or the year before. Not hard to see why:
"These people are total bastards! That's why we support them in government."
And then some bleat about Lib Dems not getting the credit. If you continually complain about how hateful your boss/the Conservatives are then it is not credit but blame which is to be allocated. If the Lib Dems had been more positive generally they'd have an easier time linking the £10k personal allowance (delivered by a Conservative Chancellor...) to their party.0 -
Mr. K, I think you may have succeeded in discovering why some think UKIP are the party for grumpy old men...0
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You look a bit young for a councillor...
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On the plus side, however, they aren't xenophobic reactionaries who think that it's acceptable to leave a senior elected official in place who casually refers to Ting Tongs.MikeK said:There is great consensus that ED is CRAP, on PB
I agree on this. But I also agree that:
1) CAMERON is CRAP
2) CLEGG is CRAP
All the Lab/Lib/Con parties and associated groups are CRAP too.0 -
I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.0
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I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.
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Is this Lord Rennard again?antifrank said:
On the plus side, however, they aren't xenophobic reactionaries who think that it's acceptable to leave a senior elected official in place who casually refers to Ting Tongs.MikeK said:There is great consensus that ED is CRAP, on PB
I agree on this. But I also agree that:
1) CAMERON is CRAP
2) CLEGG is CRAP
All the Lab/Lib/Con parties and associated groups are CRAP too.0 -
I'm so pleased you said that - I've no idea either. They could be Paris Fashionistas for all I know.Blueberry said:
Fair play to Wm Hill for putting this exotic list together:
Nobel Peace Prize: 11/4 Pope Francis, 6/1 Denis Mukwege, 8/1 Ban-Ki Moon, 10/1 Edward Snowden, 10/1 Yuan Longping, 12/1 Gene Sharp, 12/1 Helmut Kohl, 14/1 Catherine Hamlin; 16/1 Novaya Gazeta; 20/1 Catherine Ashton; 20/1 Frank Mugisha; 20/1 Malala Yousafzai; 20/1 Mary Robinson; 25/1 Ales Bialitski; 25/1 Bill Clinton; 25/1 Hu Jia; 33/1 Chelsea Manning; 33/1 Nansen Dialogue Network; 33/1 Sima Samar; 33/1 The International Space Station Organisation; 33/1 The People of Lampedusa; 40/1 James Anaya; 40/1 Julian Assange; 40/1 Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo; 50/1 Angelina Jolie; 50/1 Jose Mujica; 50/1 Tony Blair; 66/1 Bertie Ahern; 100/1 Facebook; 100/1 National Priorities Project
Scratching my head to think who half of them actually are.0 -
[Used to buy it and the DT/Times everyday to read on the train.]
Ha ha - explains why you're a bit mad. >1 paper reading for madness is my simple formula.0 -
There's an academic piece that shows every time Bill Clinton was fellated his ratings went up as well something else.FrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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Quite. It's like a complaining spouse.Morris_Dancer said:
Good afternoon, everyone.
Lib Dems attacking the Conservatives hasn't worked. It didn't work last year, or the year before. Not hard to see why:
"These people are total bastards! That's why we support them in government."
And then some bleat about Lib Dems not getting the credit. If you continually complain about how hateful your boss/the Conservatives are then it is not credit but blame which is to be allocated. If the Lib Dems had been more positive generally they'd have an easier time linking the £10k personal allowance (delivered by a Conservative Chancellor...) to their party.0 -
I'd happily vote for an asexual virgin if they had the right ideas.TheScreamingEagles said:
There's an academic piece that shows every time Bill Clinton was fellated his ratings went up as well something else.FrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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[11/4 Pope Francis]
Are Catholics allowed to gamble? Genuine question.0 -
Didn't EdM do that for one of his first conf Q&As? They claimed the audience were Ordinary Werking People. A lot turned out to be Party members...john_zims said:
@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.0 -
Ooooh I like this guy.
Probably just because I've seen him before.0 -
He is talking sense though...0
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Shame Ted Heath is no longer about.FrankBooth said:
I'd happily vote for an asexual virgin if they had the right ideas.TheScreamingEagles said:
There's an academic piece that shows every time Bill Clinton was fellated his ratings went up as well something else.FrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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I'm wondering why the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo are as long as 40/1. They're exactly the sort of group that the committee has gone for in the past.
Incidentally, there's a lovely hack of the wikipedia list of past winners:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates
It's so beautiful, I really don't want to change it.0 -
Do you remember the Boris poll about that? I can't quite recall the details but the upshot was women would go to dinner with him, men wouldn't - and men definitely didn't want their wives to go to dinner with him.
Arf.FrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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Mr. Booth, I wonder how such a person, whether chap or lady, would get on in politics.0
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Perhaps a few oysters may help?Plato said:Golly, never thrice. Some would say TMI...
I say, how disappointing for your bunkmate ;^ )JBriskin said:[I'm starting to think Tony really was a 5 times a night stallion]
This always worried me. I think I've gone twice, maybe twice. I'm young enough that I'm still aiming for one more twice. But 5? Nutter. Confirmed by his conversion to Catholicism.
Though its not always true. I had a dozen oysters on a date night a few weeks ago, but only eight worked...
*tumbleweed*
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http://www.libdems.org.uk/autumn_conference_2014
This provides links to the agenda, so that you can see the motion being debated, and the daily agenda which has the relevant amendments.
Speakers have specific time limits which are kept to. MPs in the past have been cut off mid flow.
The speakers just gone were quick fire 1 minute interventions. Now back to the longer speakers.0 -
How very dare they:antifrank said:
On the plus side, however, they aren't xenophobic reactionaries who think that it's acceptable to leave a senior elected official in place who casually refers to Ting Tongs.MikeK said:There is great consensus that ED is CRAP, on PB
I agree on this. But I also agree that:
1) CAMERON is CRAP
2) CLEGG is CRAP
All the Lab/Lib/Con parties and associated groups are CRAP too.
leave an elected official in place
use language from a popular BBC show
Perhaps you like to start a campaign against my local restaurant?
http://www.tingtongthai.co.uk/
Any other groups of which you are not a member on whose behalf you'd would like to take offence?0 -
*Impressed Face*
And you walked like cowboy the next day I presume?foxinsoxuk said:
Perhaps a few oysters may help?Plato said:Golly, never thrice. Some would say TMI...
I say, how disappointing for your bunkmate ;^ )JBriskin said:[I'm starting to think Tony really was a 5 times a night stallion]
This always worried me. I think I've gone twice, maybe twice. I'm young enough that I'm still aiming for one more twice. But 5? Nutter. Confirmed by his conversion to Catholicism.
Though its not always true. I had a dozen oysters on a date night a few weeks ago, but only eight worked...
*tumbleweed*0 -
Genuine thanks Verulamius. Brisky all about the socratic method.Verulamius said:http://www.libdems.org.uk/autumn_conference_2014
This provides links to the agenda, so that you can see the motion being debated, and the daily agenda which has the relevant amendments.
Speakers have specific time limits which are kept to. MPs in the past have been cut off mid flow.
The speakers just gone were quick fire 1 minute interventions. Now back to the longer speakers.
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I love the notion that Farage is to The UK as Obama was to black Americans. Oh and btw how ant-establishment is Obama. Like it or not politicians are a mere reflection of the society in which they live. Overall I like British society and most of the politicians who seek to serve it.Ninoinoz said:
You know, the same thing used to be said about African American voters in the USA. Then Barrack Obama came along.felix said:
Hardly magic - lots of 2010 no-voters are probably never voters and serial moaners!anotherDave said:So even if you magic away 23% of UKIP support, Mr Reckless still wins.
What a guy!
It never ceases to amaze me how pols blame the voters for not turning up to vote when it is clearly the politicians who fail to inspire or give an actual choice.
Judging by the reaction of the legacy parties, UKIP is certainly something different.
It is certainly preferable to most of the other countries I have knowledge of.0 -
Ms Brisky now getting annoyed at LD conf. She's a total Ed M fan though.0
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Oh my - even David Laws is all about the bus passes.0
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Eastleigh guy! At least he can talk on a podium. Which is more than can be said for Ed M ho ho ho ho0
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Yes, even on the Pope. Since 1918, when the Benedict XV abrogated all Canon Law including Gregory XIV's bull from 1591 which had held the penalty for betting on the conclave or the duration of a papacy was excommunication.JBriskin said:[11/4 Pope Francis]
Are Catholics allowed to gamble? Genuine question.
Gambling for Catholics is now governed by the Catechism which states:-
"2413 Games of chance (card games, etc.) or wagers are not in themselves contrary to justice. They become morally unacceptable when they deprive someone of what is necessary to provide for his needs and those of others. the passion for gambling risks becoming an enslavement. Unfair wagers and cheating at games constitute grave matter, unless the damage inflicted is so slight that the one who suffers it cannot reasonably consider it significant."0 -
Eastleigh guy talking sense.
I think.
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The facts are this:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. K, I think you may have succeeded in discovering why some think UKIP are the party for grumpy old men...
I am an old man and sometimes (not always) I grump!
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Thanks Rod - I can't really see how anyone, anywhere could give a better answer.
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Yes- church fundraisers rely on the fact.JBriskin said:[11/4 Pope Francis]
Are Catholics allowed to gamble? Genuine question.0 -
Labour, Conservative and Lib Dems are all talking at their conferences about extra spending when the government is already overspending by £100billion a year.
This is not unusual for politicians except that this time whichever government is in power may find they can't borrow any more and have to resort to a crash programme to preserve cash.0 -
Are Catholics allowed to gamble - Yes, it's called the rhythm method!0
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We've discussed this. Cons are allowed because they're trusted - LDs will get raped whatever happens - and Ed is CrapDavid_Evershed said:Labour, Conservative and Lib Dems are all talking at their conferences about extra spending when the government is already overspending by £100billion a year.
This is not unusual for politicians except that this time whichever government is in power may find they can't borrow any more and have to resort to a crash programme to preserve cash.
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Generally, my experience is that Fargle and Co really get under the skin of LibdemsAndyJS said:
It's no secret that TSE and OGH are not particularly well disposed towards the purples.MikeK said:It's getting pretty obvious that nearly every second thread presented by TSE is in someway anti UKIP or biased against UKIP. I think that this is a deliberate policy cooked up by TSE to keep his and Mikes end up against the coming deluge.
I don't mind myself but it's getting bloody boring.0 -
You Rod "swingback" Crosby!!!
Sorry if I wasn't meant to reply I don't understand all though smiley things.0 -
lol, doubles and erchies all round.malcolmg said:
see you are as deluded as ever you half witted cretin , you cannot even read a posters name correct. You seen a doctor yet.Paul_Mid_Beds said:
TY Malcolm G!MarkSenior said:
You are living in a fantasy world which bears no relation to reality
I based the LD surviving seats on putting the lattest poll figures into Baxter. In fact I gave the Libs 13 including one gain as against 11 in Baxter.
Inevitably I will have got one or two wrong as I'm not a prophet, however council elections don't always make good predictors of general elections anymore than Scottish parliament elections make good predictions of independence referendums.0 -
I don't agree really. Ed is crap. Cameron isn't *crap* in the same way -he's quite good...MikeK said:There is great consensus that ED is CRAP, on PB
I agree on this. But I also agree that:
1) CAMERON is CRAP
2) CLEGG is CRAP
All the Lab/Lib/Con parties and associated groups are CRAP too.
...at flushing the country down the U-bend. Cameron will never embarrass us at the Cenotaph, or look bad on The White House Lawn, or get a permanent frog in his throat at PMQ's, or fail to deliver a silky soundbite. But neither will he govern in the interests of the people of the United Kingdom, against the powerful influences from over the Channel and over the Atlantic. That will take a far braver man than him.
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It's the Doctor!!!
1K so coming my way presently (okay, not really presently, I just want to use that word) because of you.0 -
Now it's the Eed up Doc!!!
It's basically a rave there.0 -
I see recent information about Heath passed you by.TheScreamingEagles said:
Shame Ted Heath is no longer about.FrankBooth said:
I'd happily vote for an asexual virgin if they had the right ideas.TheScreamingEagles said:
There's an academic piece that shows every time Bill Clinton was fellated his ratings went up as well something else.FrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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How about a sexual virgin?FrankBooth said:
I'd happily vote for an asexual virgin if they had the right ideas.TheScreamingEagles said:
There's an academic piece that shows every time Bill Clinton was fellated his ratings went up as well something else.FrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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well done St John, excellent tip. Just a pity I did not follow you.stjohn said:"STFOHN", (St.John's, The Flat, Occasional Horseracing Nod), is backing Treve to win The Arc.
She was an extremely impressive winner last year and has been "wrong" in her subsequent three races. So there are huge question marks over her and there's no point backing her each way. A repeat win in this race has always been the plan and her trainer feels she is on the way back. She would prefer softer ground but she has won on good ground. She has a nice draw from trap 3.
She will probably run a stinker but if she is back to close to her best she could win comfortably. At 14/1 she looks worth a punt to me.
I'm on!
Treve to win The Arc at 14/1 Corals0 -
I've managed 6 times in one hour on a number of occasions - but my hand was pretty knackered afterwardsFrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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I think that the polling shows that UKIP are the least liked and most disliked party. It's interesting that you've seen this broken down by party support. Can you point us to the data so I can see the figures.Paul_Mid_Beds said:
Generally, my experience is that Fargle and Co really get under the skin of LibdemsAndyJS said:
It's no secret that TSE and OGH are not particularly well disposed towards the purples.MikeK said:It's getting pretty obvious that nearly every second thread presented by TSE is in someway anti UKIP or biased against UKIP. I think that this is a deliberate policy cooked up by TSE to keep his and Mikes end up against the coming deluge.
I don't mind myself but it's getting bloody boring.0 -
Very poetic Lucky; but to me Cammo is still crap for all that your last two sentences relate. Not a bad actor though.Luckyguy1983 said:
I don't agree really. Ed is crap. Cameron isn't *crap* in the same way -he's quite good...MikeK said:There is great consensus that ED is CRAP, on PB
I agree on this. But I also agree that:
1) CAMERON is CRAP
2) CLEGG is CRAP
All the Lab/Lib/Con parties and associated groups are CRAP too.
...at flushing the country down the U-bend. Cameron will never embarrass us at the Cenotaph, or look bad on The White House Lawn, or get a permanent frog in his throat at PMQ's, or fail to deliver a silky soundbite. But neither will he govern in the interests of the people of the United Kingdom, against the powerful influences from over the Channel and over the Atlantic. That will take a far braver man than him.
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Prescription drug joke - many lols from the hall.0
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Celtic humped again, how long can delally lastJBriskin said:
I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.0 -
Not really - bet the tories would have laughed though!!!!0
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Really? Surprising. I'm sure they'll still win. I notice my team is heading up the table - I won't tell you who they are.malcolmg said:
Celtic humped again, how long can delally lastJBriskin said:
I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.
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LOL
Did you see the episode of True Blood when Jason Stackhouse had got a blister?Sunil_Prasannan said:
I've managed 6 times in one hour on a number of occasions - but my hand was pretty knackered afterwardsFrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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Matthew D'Ancona There is still the chemistry to forge a second Con-LD Coalition
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11140111/There-is-still-the-chemistry-to-forge-a-second-Con-Lib-Coalition.html0 -
LDs vote to legalise brothels
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/article1467419.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2014_10_040 -
ISIS prepares for war with Iran and urges its supporters to steal Iran's nuclear secrets
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Middle_East/article1467470.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2014_10_050 -
I read that in paper format - was the writer deliberately trying to confuse me with conflating pension contributions in the same article??? Cheeky Murdoch writers. And I didn't have Camilla to cheer me up. But at least I've got my horoscope game plan.HYUFD said:LDs vote to legalise brothels
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/article1467419.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2014_10_04
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German Cabinet set on keeping Britain in EU
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You're supposed to go ££ or paywall so that the plebs get annoyed by their ignorance HYUFD.0
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I could guess given they beat Celtic today to go top.JBriskin said:
Really? Surprising. I'm sure they'll still win. I notice my team is heading up the table - I won't tell you who they are.malcolmg said:
Celtic humped again, how long can delally lastJBriskin said:
I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.0 -
Wrong! It's Aberdeen don't think we're that far behind. I only watch when they're on normal Tv cup games and when the scores come in so don't expect me to be able to footie talk with you.malcolmg said:
I could guess given they beat Celtic today to go top.JBriskin said:
Really? Surprising. I'm sure they'll still win. I notice my team is heading up the table - I won't tell you who they are.malcolmg said:
Celtic humped again, how long can delally lastJBriskin said:
I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.
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It passed me by as well.Luckyguy1983 said:
I see recent information about Heath passed you by.TheScreamingEagles said:
Shame Ted Heath is no longer about.FrankBooth said:
I'd happily vote for an asexual virgin if they had the right ideas.TheScreamingEagles said:
There's an academic piece that shows every time Bill Clinton was fellated his ratings went up as well something else.FrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
Unless you mean the scarcely believable rumours that even I wouldn't repeat about a dead man.
A link (to reputable source) would be nice.0 -
some of them are right bigots.... ask Gordon.initforthemoney said:
what proportion of labour supporters are racist?TheScreamingEagles said:
59% of Labour supporters think UKIP is a racist party.0 -
so not quite top then , Hamilton are top now. Aberdeen looking a lot better this year though.JBriskin said:
Wrong! It's Aberdeen don't think we're that far behind. I only watch when they're on normal Tv cup games and when the scores come in so don't expect me to be able to footie talk with you.malcolmg said:
I could guess given they beat Celtic today to go top.JBriskin said:
Really? Surprising. I'm sure they'll still win. I notice my team is heading up the table - I won't tell you who they are.malcolmg said:
Celtic humped again, how long can delally lastJBriskin said:
I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.0 -
It's a long standing PB joke involving the Wing CommanderLuckyguy1983 said:
I see recent information about Heath passed you by.TheScreamingEagles said:
Shame Ted Heath is no longer about.FrankBooth said:
I'd happily vote for an asexual virgin if they had the right ideas.TheScreamingEagles said:
There's an academic piece that shows every time Bill Clinton was fellated his ratings went up as well something else.FrankBooth said:I can't say I care whether or not Tony managed 5 times a night, but I'm amazed he thought we'd want to know or that such virility would be a vote winner.
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I thought we were going to do the double last year!! They had a parade for the little cup and everything - it was like 83 all over again.malcolmg said:
so not quite top then , Hamilton are top now. Aberdeen looking a lot better this year though.JBriskin said:
Wrong! It's Aberdeen don't think we're that far behind. I only watch when they're on normal Tv cup games and when the scores come in so don't expect me to be able to footie talk with you.malcolmg said:
I could guess given they beat Celtic today to go top.JBriskin said:
Really? Surprising. I'm sure they'll still win. I notice my team is heading up the table - I won't tell you who they are.malcolmg said:
Celtic humped again, how long can delally lastJBriskin said:
I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.
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Thanks HYUFD, I likedHYUFD said:Matthew D'Ancona There is still the chemistry to forge a second Con-LD Coalition
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11140111/There-is-still-the-chemistry-to-forge-a-second-Con-Lib-Coalition.html
"Cameron’s £12,500 pledge was a pitiless annexation of Lib Dem terrain. Or it was the first line of a second Lib-Con deal: take your pick. Last time, even as he scorned coalition politics and warned, in a party political broadcast, of the perils of a hung Parliament, the Tory leader was instructing his team to prepare for precisely that. Don’t be fooled by the seething rhetoric: things are rarely what they seem."
from the article.
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Unlikely to get a better chance than this year given Celtic are poor.JBriskin said:
I thought we were going to do the double last year!! They had a parade for the little cup and everything - it was like 83 all over again.malcolmg said:
so not quite top then , Hamilton are top now. Aberdeen looking a lot better this year though.JBriskin said:
Wrong! It's Aberdeen don't think we're that far behind. I only watch when they're on normal Tv cup games and when the scores come in so don't expect me to be able to footie talk with you.malcolmg said:
I could guess given they beat Celtic today to go top.JBriskin said:
Really? Surprising. I'm sure they'll still win. I notice my team is heading up the table - I won't tell you who they are.malcolmg said:
Celtic humped again, how long can delally lastJBriskin said:
I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.0 -
Concerning news - Marussia F1 Driver Jules Bianchi 'fighting for life' after Japanese Grand Priz Crash and surgery for head injuries in most serious crash since the deaths of Senna and Rosberg at Imola in 1995 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2781081/BREAKING-NEWS-Formula-1-star-seriously-injured-crashing-tractor-race-hit-heavy-rain.html0
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So a little bit of cheating is OK?RodCrosby said:
Yes, even on the Pope. Since 1918, when the Benedict XV abrogated all Canon Law including Gregory XIV's bull from 1591 which had held the penalty for betting on the conclave or the duration of a papacy was excommunication.JBriskin said:[11/4 Pope Francis]
Are Catholics allowed to gamble? Genuine question.
Gambling for Catholics is now governed by the Catechism which states:-
"2413 Games of chance (card games, etc.) or wagers are not in themselves contrary to justice. They become morally unacceptable when they deprive someone of what is necessary to provide for his needs and those of others. the passion for gambling risks becoming an enslavement. Unfair wagers and cheating at games constitute grave matter, unless the damage inflicted is so slight that the one who suffers it cannot reasonably consider it significant."
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J Briskin I already paid for the paper version of the ST, not paying for the digital too, my main paid subscription is to the Economist, no doubt some PBers are subscribed to the Times, but it is the headline I am linking too0
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Mr. HYUFD, whilst very serious there's some good breaking news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29499545
He's out of surgery and breathing on his own.0 -
Urrggh you making me have to represent AFC on PB Malky - it would be more fair if I could afford sky or bt.malcolmg said:
Unlikely to get a better chance than this year given Celtic are poor.JBriskin said:
I thought we were going to do the double last year!! They had a parade for the little cup and everything - it was like 83 all over again.malcolmg said:
so not quite top then , Hamilton are top now. Aberdeen looking a lot better this year though.JBriskin said:
Wrong! It's Aberdeen don't think we're that far behind. I only watch when they're on normal Tv cup games and when the scores come in so don't expect me to be able to footie talk with you.malcolmg said:
I could guess given they beat Celtic today to go top.JBriskin said:
Really? Surprising. I'm sure they'll still win. I notice my team is heading up the table - I won't tell you who they are.malcolmg said:
Celtic humped again, how long can delally lastJBriskin said:
I understand (oh yeah!!!, going full Brisky) there's a Glasgow Celtic FC match on today...john_zims said:@JBriskin
'They cut his mircorphone!!!! CIA are not allowing LDs free speech!!!!!
Doesn't matter as they were talking to empty seats.
Surely they can drag a few Glaswegians in off the street to try and fill part of the hall.
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JBriskin It was rather an amusing Sunday afternoon article I think, just needed an item about viagra and had everything0
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[it is the headline I am linking too]
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FB Ann Widdecombe?0
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@HYUFD – not all bad news for Bianchi.
BBC – “Marussia driver Jules Bianchi is out of surgery and breathing on his own after suffering a severe head injury in a crash at the Japanese Grand Prix.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29499545
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British ISIS JIhadis executed by Kurdish fighters
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2780816/Did-allies-execute-two-British-ISIS-fighters-Former-SAS-soldier-claims-saw-UK-jihadis-captured-Kurdish-forces-Iraq-desert-believes-killed.html0 -
This was a truly magnificent winner from stjohn - in fact one of the very best tips of the year to date on PB.com. He must feel very disappointed that there is such little appreciation for having come up with such a stonking good tip on what is after all supposed to be a betting site.stjohn said:"STFOHN", (St.John's, The Flat, Occasional Horseracing Nod), is backing Treve to win The Arc.
She was an extremely impressive winner last year and has been "wrong" in her subsequent three races. So there are huge question marks over her and there's no point backing her each way. A repeat win in this race has always been the plan and her trainer feels she is on the way back. She would prefer softer ground but she has won on good ground. She has a nice draw from trap 3.
She will probably run a stinker but if she is back to close to her best she could win comfortably. At 14/1 she looks worth a punt to me.
I'm on!
Treve to win The Arc at 14/1 Corals
He probably wonders, as do I, why bother. There isn't even a TOTY competition any more where one could expect to receive a few plaudits.
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For the record you will not be getting anymore #ldconf updates from me (it finishes at 6 anyway) - We're now watching Come dine with me.0
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Why, are we going into partnership with the Lib Dems or some other horrible fate?TheScreamingEagles said:Oh and a warning to the Kippers you might not like tonight's thread. Just a warning.
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No, "grave matter" is synonymous with mortal sin. Cheating and unfair wagers which only inflict slight injury would still be considered a sin, albeit of a lesser kind.numbertwelve said:
So a little bit of cheating is OK?RodCrosby said:
Yes, even on the Pope. Since 1918, when the Benedict XV abrogated all Canon Law including Gregory XIV's bull from 1591 which had held the penalty for betting on the conclave or the duration of a papacy was excommunication.JBriskin said:[11/4 Pope Francis]
Are Catholics allowed to gamble? Genuine question.
Gambling for Catholics is now governed by the Catechism which states:-
"2413 Games of chance (card games, etc.) or wagers are not in themselves contrary to justice. They become morally unacceptable when they deprive someone of what is necessary to provide for his needs and those of others. the passion for gambling risks becoming an enslavement. Unfair wagers and cheating at games constitute grave matter, unless the damage inflicted is so slight that the one who suffers it cannot reasonably consider it significant."0
