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isam said:


I really don't know, its not much of a choice is it. I guess if I had been tortured Id say anything.

I agreed with @JosiasJessop last night to prevent the torture of his endless pinickity questions so Im not trying to be a brave keyboard warrior!

I wouldn't go anywhere near the middle east personally. Although its probably coming to me soon

You seem rather obsessed with me, mate.

Can I suggest a voluntary pact? I won't respond to your posts, and you won't respond to mine.

It seems the simplest way of ending the 'torture' you feel when you have your views challenged.

-------------------------------------------------------

Not at all obsessed, I noticed you name checked me a few times in conversations with others in the last day or so, so thought it was fair game

(A nice way of saying you started it basically... "Mate")

But your suggestion of never responding to me sounds fantastic, I am bang up for it.

I don't respond to yours anyway unless directly asked a question so no problem there

No indirect passive aggressive mentions either please, I promise I won't do that either

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Breakfast

Theuniondivvie said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

maybe we need one going the other way

Am I the only person who finds the ending of the cricket season always very melancholic ?

The kind of stereotypes portrayed in the cartoon need to be ok for everyone or not ok for anyone.

It's the essex jokes double standard. I'm fine with them, though I could make a case for them insulting my whole family if I wanted to be a bleeding heart. But people that give it have to take it or do one

AndyJS said:

Today's Survation/MoS:

Lab 35% (-1)
Con 31% (+4)
UKIP 19% (-3)
LD 8% (+1)

Ooops, we missed that one for our ELBOW - are there any tables?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Alanbrooke said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

Socrates said:

AndyJS said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

SWEDEN: with 494 out of 5837 districts counted:

RED-GREENS
Left 5,1
Social Democrats 31.8
Greens 5.7
(Feminist Initiative 2.4 UNDER 4% threshold)

CENTRE-RIGHT (PM Fredrik Reinfeldt)
Centre 8.6
Peoples' Party 4.4
Christian Democrats 5,0
Moderates 20.6

SWEDEN DEMOCRATS (UKIP) 15.5

Others 0.9

SWEDEN DEMOCRATS (UKIP)?

The Swedish Democrats were formed by Nazis weren't they? Hardly UKIP.

So why are UKIP their new best chums?

because the SNP are allied with Sinn Fein ?

Is that true? Are the SNP really in the same grouping as SF?

No, it is not true.

Sinn Fein: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_United_Left–Nordic_Green_Left

SNP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greens–European_Free_Alliance

Hey it's a staight forward lie, but why should that upset you ?

Here's the OO organising their latest KKK lodge

http://news.ulster.ac.uk/releases/2005/1643.html

I've always wanted to join the KKK, only to find out what washing powder they use to get their outfits to brilliantly white and clean.

best ask Stuart he's the man with the inside track.

Really?

Of course, Stuart likes funny handshakes, hence a new border would be known as the Mason-Dickson line . Naturally we're the Union.

Stuart_Dickson said:

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Mustard.

Not a dish per se, but can't think of anything else.

Muffins

Sunil_Prasannan said:

AndyJS said:

Today's Survation/MoS:

Lab 35% (-1)
Con 31% (+4)
UKIP 19% (-3)
LD 8% (+1)

Ooops, we missed that one for our ELBOW - are there any tables?

http://t.co/EQRJKDT7XR

Charles said:

Toms said:

You're on song there Marf. However, I'm told that deep fried Mars bars are irresistible. Must try one, gluten free. DIY that's quite feasible.

Melted Tolberone poured over vanilla ice cream is far tastier and more decadent

Oh, dear God. What a splendid recipe. So obvious when someone points it out. Thank you, Mr. Charles, I shall give that to Herself tomorrow evening. I expect you will hear her purring all the way up there in London.

SD Lofven will have to take a more anti EU anti immigration line to win over SD support, and if he takes a more Eurosceptic line than Reinfeldt as a result that could actually help Cameron

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix9OP1i9UN8

Hugh said:

Alanbrooke said:

Theuniondivvie said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

maybe we need one going the other way

Good idea.

10 things "we'll" be glad to see the back of when "we" vote Yes.

Casual anti-Scottish racism.
Tories.
London.


Feel free to add to the list anyone...

I hate to break it to you, but you won't be seeing the back of the Tories. Perhaps you meant, 'Tories in power', although if the Scots Parliament is anything to go by, you will have more of them than Scots MPs at any rate.

Alanbrooke said:

Carnyx said:

Alanbrooke said:

Theuniondivvie said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

maybe we need one going the other way

Gentle reminder if needed, I'm really interested in your source re Mr Salmond and Kristallnacht please - it is something I obviously missed.

I made it up, what do you think ?

I'm modelling my posts on Swinneynomics.

Thank you. I did wonder just a wee bit, but I'm too nice to say so out loud.

Rather like the street violence and trashed blocks of flats, it's one of those things that happen in the PB alternative universe but not in the newspapers.

Mind you, there's apparently an interesting pair of alternative realities around today on the initial period of iScotland. Tom Devine in the Sunday Herald and Andrew Roberts in, I seem to recall, the Telegraph or Times (but have not read the latter).

I don't want to tempt fate, but are the moderators going to let Malcolm out of jail? The constant insults might start to be missed, and he does such a good job for the Unionist cause.

I've sometimes thought with stereotyping you need to go big and absurd, so it is clear that unless one is an abhorrent racist, it is obviously not sincere. Too subtle and some people will think it is serious.

Carnyx said:

Alanbrooke said:

Carnyx said:

Alanbrooke said:

Theuniondivvie said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

maybe we need one going the other way

Gentle reminder if needed, I'm really interested in your source re Mr Salmond and Kristallnacht please - it is something I obviously missed.

I made it up, what do you think ?

I'm modelling my posts on Swinneynomics.

Thank you. I did wonder just a wee bit, but I'm too nice to say so out loud.

Rather like the street violence and trashed blocks of flats, it's one of those things that happen in the PB alternative universe but not in the newspapers.

Mind you, there's apparently an interesting pair of alternative realities around today on the initial period of iScotland. Tom Devine in the Sunday Herald and Andrew Roberts in, I seem to recall, the Telegraph or Times (but have not read the latter).

It matters not, it's a NO the Sunday Post have spoken.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

AndyJS said:

Today's Survation/MoS:

Lab 35% (-1)
Con 31% (+4)
UKIP 19% (-3)
LD 8% (+1)

Ooops, we missed that one for our ELBOW - are there any tables?

http://survation.com/labour-lead-at-4-points-survationmail-on-sunday/

Stuart_Dickson said:

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Mustard.

Not a dish per se, but can't think of anything else.

English Muffins, Creme Anglaise... All I can think of off the top of my head!

Anyone else see the BBC debate this evening? Seemed to me a pretty clear victory for the NO side, and in general one of the stronger debates that Better Together have had. Naturally they were helped by the fact that YES was clearly unable to ram this particular studio with its own activists.

Apologies if this has been posted before, but re that ICM indyref poll, has a pollster ever described their own poll as an outlier?

Martin Boon, the head of ICM Research, said his firm's poll should be seen in the context of a volatile campaign in which results have shifted dramatically.

“Polls can and do go up and down and the fuss an individual poll makes will soon be forgotten when the real result arrives,” he said. “The proper way to analyse this poll is simply to take it as an ‘outlier’ which fits into the overall impression created by all Scottish polls right now: it seems too close to call, and could go either way

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11094489/Scottish-independence-polls-show-its-too-close-to-call.html

Re Heywood and Middleton labour selection

Danczuk is supporting Liz McInness

Bazowzer said:

Anyone else see the BBC debate this evening? Seemed to me a pretty clear victory for the NO side, and in general one of the stronger debates that Better Together have had. Naturally they were helped by the fact that YES was clearly unable to ram this particular studio with its own activists.

Maybe I should try again. I found it a very bear-pit atmosphere, with the YES audience thinking that the louder they clap the more votes they will get. (Perhaps the NO audience was like that too-I didn't stay tuned to see).

Luckyguy1983 said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Mustard.

Not a dish per se, but can't think of anything else.

English Muffins, Creme Anglaise... All I can think of off the top of my head!

Zuppa Inglese,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuppa_Inglese

Luckyguy1983 said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Mustard.

Not a dish per se, but can't think of anything else.

English Muffins, Creme Anglaise... All I can think of off the top of my head!

FULL ENGLISH BREAKFASTS!

foxinsoxuk said:

ThomasNashe said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Hugh said:

Alanbrooke said:

Theuniondivvie said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

maybe we need one going the other way

Good idea.

10 things "we'll" be glad to see the back of when "we" vote Yes.

Casual anti-Scottish racism.
Tories.
London.


Feel free to add to the list anyone...

Primrose Hill intellectuals...

Is that directed at EdM, seanT, or both of them?

I don't think SeanT is an intellectual, more an emotional incontinent.

And a saucer of milk for the good doctor. Meaowwww!

Stuart_Dickson said:

Gordon Brown caught telling porkies. Again.

'We will block more powers warns Tory MP'

Christopher Chope has told the BBC that there are enough back bench Conservative MPs in Parliament who are against more powers going to Scotland in the event of a No vote and who would vote against such a move.

Chope was discussing more powers on BBC Radio 4 when he was asked if he accepted that Westminster had now lost the power to veto further devolution as outlined by Gordon Brown this week. The MP replied: "No, I don't accept anything has been lost. If there is a No vote then it will be the status quo".

Challenged by the presenter that it would not be no change, Chope replied: "It will be, because we can't change the constitution without the approval of the United Kingdom Parliament and that seems to have been lost in this debate."

http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/referendum/9736-we-will-block-more-powers-warns-tory-mp

Tory MPs haven't won a majority in Westminster since the election of 1992. So not likely to be in a position to do that.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Apologies if this has been posted before, but re that ICM indyref poll, has a pollster ever described their own poll as an outlier?

Martin Boon, the head of ICM Research, said his firm's poll should be seen in the context of a volatile campaign in which results have shifted dramatically.

“Polls can and do go up and down and the fuss an individual poll makes will soon be forgotten when the real result arrives,” he said. “The proper way to analyse this poll is simply to take it as an ‘outlier’ which fits into the overall impression created by all Scottish polls right now: it seems too close to call, and could go either way

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11094489/Scottish-independence-polls-show-its-too-close-to-call.html

I think he said the same about their euro polls on the Daily politics

Luckyguy1983 said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Mustard.

Not a dish per se, but can't think of anything else.

English Muffins, Creme Anglaise... All I can think of off the top of my head!

A lot of english dishes are named after towns or regions same as any other european country

Cumberland sausages, Eton Mess, Worcester Sauce, Lancashire Hotpot, Cornish pasty etc.

Any rumours re this 'big name' coming out for the union later?

Luckyguy1983 said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Mustard.

Not a dish per se, but can't think of anything else.

English Muffins, Creme Anglaise... All I can think of off the top of my head!

Luckyguy1983 said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Mustard.

Not a dish per se, but can't think of anything else.

English Muffins, Creme Anglaise... All I can think of off the top of my head!

Whether it's crème anglais or crème brulee, it's delicious, though even it has to yield to cranachan - which is quite simply food for the gods - and in itself reason enough for the preservation of the union.

another_richard said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Alanbrooke said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

Socrates said:

AndyJS said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

SWEDEN: with 494 out of 5837 districts counted:

RED-GREENS
Left 5,1
Social Democrats 31.8
Greens 5.7
(Feminist Initiative 2.4 UNDER 4% threshold)

CENTRE-RIGHT (PM Fredrik Reinfeldt)
Centre 8.6
Peoples' Party 4.4
Christian Democrats 5,0
Moderates 20.6

SWEDEN DEMOCRATS (UKIP) 15.5

Others 0.9

SWEDEN DEMOCRATS (UKIP)?

The Swedish Democrats were formed by Nazis weren't they? Hardly UKIP.

So why are UKIP their new best chums?

because the SNP are allied with Sinn Fein ?

Is that true? Are the SNP really in the same grouping as SF?

No, it is not true.

Sinn Fein: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_United_Left–Nordic_Green_Left

SNP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greens–European_Free_Alliance

Hey it's a staight forward lie, but why should that upset you ?

Here's the OO organising their latest KKK lodge

http://news.ulster.ac.uk/releases/2005/1643.html

I've always wanted to join the KKK, only to find out what washing powder they use to get their outfits to brilliantly white and clean.

best ask Stuart he's the man with the inside track.

Really?

Of course, Stuart likes funny handshakes, hence a new border would be known as the Mason-Dickson line . Naturally we're the Union.

Obviously I'm missing something here.

I wanna be Ulysses S. Grant

You can't unless you take up heavy drinking.

Being Sherman would be more fun anyway.

And immortalised in Cockney rhyming slang via the M4 tank (though Grant got a tank too, courtesy of the British).

If the Queen can't intervene in Scottish independence what exactly is the point of having her?

I don't think she should intervene, but it seems like precisely the sort of question that we've always thought that the monarchy was all about. Which questions would they step forwards on?

Either she intervenes (one way or another) or I can't see any argument against abolition of the Monarchy.

Carola said:

Any rumours re this 'big name' coming out for the union later?

There is only one name that can have a big enough effect short of Salmond or Sturgeon, and despite her slip-up earlier in the day, I can't see QE intervening.

Alanbrooke said:

Carnyx said:

Alanbrooke said:

Carnyx said:

Alanbrooke said:

Theuniondivvie said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

maybe we need one going the other way

Gentle reminder if needed, I'm really interested in your source re Mr Salmond and Kristallnacht please - it is something I obviously missed.

I made it up, what do you think ?

I'm modelling my posts on Swinneynomics.

Thank you. I did wonder just a wee bit, but I'm too nice to say so out loud.

Rather like the street violence and trashed blocks of flats, it's one of those things that happen in the PB alternative universe but not in the newspapers.

Mind you, there's apparently an interesting pair of alternative realities around today on the initial period of iScotland. Tom Devine in the Sunday Herald and Andrew Roberts in, I seem to recall, the Telegraph or Times (but have not read the latter).

It matters not, it's a NO the Sunday Post have spoken.

Quite. But I only ever read it for Oor Wullie, the Broons, occasionally the Hon Man and the fruit and vegetable marketing advice.

I see the Sunday Mail* is neutral, however ...

*The Sabbath version of the Record, not to be confused with the MoS, for our southron friends

Hugh said:

MonikerDiCanio said:

Hugh said:

Alanbrooke said:

Theuniondivvie said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

maybe we need one going the other way

Good idea.

10 things "we'll" be glad to see the back of when "we" vote Yes.

Casual anti-Scottish racism.
Tories.
London.


Feel free to add to the list anyone...

RBS,BoS,Standard Life, Tesco Bank,ClydesdaleBank,The Pound....

Good point! So we have-

Casual anti-Scottish racism
Tories
London
RBS and other bankers who crashed the global economy and enforced austerity on us through their Tory chums while they continued to get rich at the taxpayers expense

Myopic cultural supremacist Bloomsbury cerebral narcissists
Racist and biased football commentators
Warmongering political class embroiled in the military-industrial complex and Friends of Israel
Anglo-Saxon supremacism
Public schoolboy scroungers pretending to be hard-nosed capitalists
Oxbridge muppets educated above their level of intelligence
Contrived eccentricity
Whitehall scammers...

Alanbrooke said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

kle4 said:

nigel4england said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Last week I saw they had Tunnock's Caramels in the vending machines at Coventry station, I couldn't resist eating one!

EDIT: that would be the Tunnock's, not a vending machine!

If they vote yes will we still be able to eat Scotch Eggs?

For a higher price yes. And they will have to pay more for English...custard? What dishes have English in the name?

Mustard.

Not a dish per se, but can't think of anything else.

English Muffins, Creme Anglaise... All I can think of off the top of my head!

A lot of english dishes are named after towns or regions same as any other european country

Cumberland sausages, Eton Mess, Worcester Sauce, Lancashire Hotpot, Cornish pasty etc.

Craster kippers. Yum! But I'd better say goodnight before I end up getting hungry and making myself supper.

kle4 said:

Omnium said:

If the Queen can't intervene in Scottish independence what exactly is the point of having her?

I don't think she should intervene, but it seems like precisely the sort of question that we've always thought that the monarchy was all about. Which questions would they step forwards on?

Either she intervenes (one way or another) or I can't see any argument against abolition of the Monarchy.

I suppose the problem is she will be queen over all the island whichever side wins, so she does not feel it is one of the situations she can intervene these days, as she has to live with both sides afterwards. Simpler if Scotland were going republican.

Yes it would be interesting to see Republicans arguing that the Monarchy should remain neutral in a referendum on the Head of State (although i think they might have done in the Australian referendum...)

Audience in debate was too annoying

Howard said:

Stuart_Dickson said:

Gordon Brown caught telling porkies. Again.

'We will block more powers warns Tory MP'

Christopher Chope has told the BBC that there are enough back bench Conservative MPs in Parliament who are against more powers going to Scotland in the event of a No vote and who would vote against such a move.

Chope was discussing more powers on BBC Radio 4 when he was asked if he accepted that Westminster had now lost the power to veto further devolution as outlined by Gordon Brown this week. The MP replied: "No, I don't accept anything has been lost. If there is a No vote then it will be the status quo".

Challenged by the presenter that it would not be no change, Chope replied: "It will be, because we can't change the constitution without the approval of the United Kingdom Parliament and that seems to have been lost in this debate."

http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/referendum/9736-we-will-block-more-powers-warns-tory-mp

Tory MPs haven't won a majority in Westminster since the election of 1992. So not likely to be in a position to do that.

But its the Conservatives in government not Gordon Brown.

Therefore its not Gordon Brown who will be making decisions.

kle4 said:

BlackDouglas said:

Hugh said:

MonikerDiCanio said:

Hugh said:

Alanbrooke said:

Theuniondivvie said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

I have lived in Scotland since 1988.
I like - porridge, whisky, the kilt, plain bread, haggis, cranachan
I dislike - bagpipes, Irn Bru

Ssh, this is not a thread for people who actually live in Scotland. It's for the 'we'.

maybe we need one going the other way

Good idea.

10 things "we'll" be glad to see the back of when "we" vote Yes.

Casual anti-Scottish racism.
Tories.
London.


Feel free to add to the list anyone...

RBS,BoS,Standard Life, Tesco Bank,ClydesdaleBank,The Pound....

Good point! So we have-

Casual anti-Scottish racism
Tories
London
RBS and other bankers who crashed the global economy and enforced austerity on us through their Tory chums while they continued to get rich at the taxpayers expense

Myopic cultural supremacist Bloomsbury cerebral narcissists
Racist and biased football commentators
Warmongering political class embroiled in the military-industrial complex and Friends of Israel
Anglo-Saxon supremacism
Public schoolboy scroungers pretending to be hard-nosed capitalists
Oxbridge muppets educated above their level of intelligence
Contrived eccentricity
Whitehall scammers...

OK, 'contrived eccentricity' confuses me - is that a reference to something, or do you not have eccentrics in Scotland?

'contrived' is key there, looks like a Boris reference

rcs1000 said:

Hugh said:

Roger said:

alex

"I don't want to tempt fate, but are the moderators going to let Malcolm out of jail?"

.....and he's funny which is worth the admission fee on its own

(PS Good to see you back. You were the DR Spock of PB. Intelligent logical and pithy)

I think they should certainly let James Kelly out of jail (if he wants it).

Always polite and insightful.

MickPork might be less to people's tastes, but I wouldn't have a problem with him back either.

Just think PB, you can rub their noses in it when Scotland votes no!

I don't think James Kelly is still in jail. Like most people who've gotten banned it will almost certainly have been for a very brief period. (HD2 is the exception here...)

I miss HD2, a true eccentric.

Given that it is the political editor of The Sun that is tweeting about the Big Name and Midnight, it seems likely to be Rupert Murdoch.