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rottenborough said:

"Mr Rees-Mogg said he would also examine Met Office weather reports over suggestions [civil servant] officials were staying at home on the sunniest days."

Telegraph

Gardenwalker said:

Just on Rees-Mogg, he (and/or the government) seem believe that a war on WFH plays well with the gammonati.

It’s not like he’s actually serious about it.

dixiedean said:

williamglenn said:

ydoethur said:

EPG said:

Gardenwalker said:

Good evening.

I see the government’s plan for Northern Ireland is unravelling again.

When oh when will they listen to Barty Bobbins? We hold all the cards!

Maybe they need to hold an election to see what people in NI think about the protocol.

I'm just surprised to learn they have a fecking plan...

There was a poignant Australian song in the 90s with the refrain:

I've got another plan - this time it'll work
Yeah, I've got another plan - this time it'll work
Or I'll be struck down, struck down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QcHjcMUz_4

The Leader by Roger McGough.

I wanna be the leader
I wanna be the leader
Can I be the leader?
Can I? I can?
Promise? Promise?
Yippee I'm the leader
I'm the leader

OK what shall we do?

dixiedean said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just on Rees-Mogg, he (and/or the government) seem believe that a war on WFH plays well with the gammonati.

It’s not like he’s actually serious about it.

See. I think he actually is. Like Patel they believe it. He genuinely seems to think WFH is a moral outrage. For the rest it's performative.
He has the fervour of one on a moral crusade. Whether it wins or loses votes is incidental for him.

Gardenwalker said:

dixiedean said:

rottenborough said:

"Mr Rees-Mogg said he would also examine Met Office weather reports over suggestions [civil servant] officials were staying at home on the sunniest days."

Telegraph

Sunny days, where have you gone?
I get the strangest feeling you belong
Why does it always rain on me?
Is it because I'm a Victorian charicature?
Why does it always rain on me?
Even when the sun is shining I can't avoid the lightning.

Is it because I’ve lied since I was 17?

gettingbetter said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Completely OT I am more than a little chuffed tonight.

When we bought our place a decade or more ago it had two paddocks amounting to about 2 acres attached. We decided to extend some adjacent woodland, planting around 150 trees (birch, ash, hazel, poplar and oak), replant an ancient orchard that had existed until it was grubbed out in the 1980s and turn the rest of the land back to hay meadow. We have seen the return of many different birds and insects including a big increase in moth population which - thanks to he advice of our resident PB expert Marquee Mark - I have been recording the last few years.

Finally, this evening when out by the hedge between the two meadows I noticed that for the first time we now have hares in the meadow and at least one Form. It has taken a long time to get the land back into a proper state from the barren horse paddock it was but we are finally seeing the benefits. My only slight concern is whether the Red Kites nesting in the adjacent woodland might take a fancy to the leverets but that is just a chance we will have to take.

Well done I am pleased for you. We have bought a moth light we have not had time to use yet but I hope to do so soon.

rottenborough said:

"Mr Rees-Mogg said he would also examine Met Office weather reports over suggestions [civil servant] officials were staying at home on the sunniest days."

Telegraph

Gardenwalker said:

dixiedean said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just on Rees-Mogg, he (and/or the government) seem believe that a war on WFH plays well with the gammonati.

It’s not like he’s actually serious about it.

See. I think he actually is. Like Patel they believe it. He genuinely seems to think WFH is a moral outrage. For the rest it's performative.
He has the fervour of one on a moral crusade. Whether it wins or loses votes is incidental for him.

Rees-Mogg is so performative he’s forgotten what reality is. He’s played “Rees-Mogg” for a very long time.

Andy_JS said:

I'm convinced the next Labour PM will be a woman, possibly Lisa Nandy, Yvette Cooper, Angela Rayner or Bridget Phillipson.

ydoethur said:

rottenborough said:

"Mr Rees-Mogg said he would also examine Met Office weather reports over suggestions [civil servant] officials were staying at home on the sunniest days."

Telegraph

Congratulations Mogg. You have achieved the impossible. You are as stupid as you look.

Does he really not know the big effort is commuting on wet, miserable days?

Jonathan said:

ydoethur said:

rottenborough said:

"Mr Rees-Mogg said he would also examine Met Office weather reports over suggestions [civil servant] officials were staying at home on the sunniest days."

Telegraph

Congratulations Mogg. You have achieved the impossible. You are as stupid as you look.

Does he really not know the big effort is commuting on wet, miserable days?

I fear he likes the little people to know their place. If they have time and the space to choose and think for themselves , who knows what they might do.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

StuartDickson said:

ydoethur said:

StuartDickson said:

ydoethur said:

StuartDickson said:

ydoethur said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

StuartDickson said:

Burgessian said:

StuartDickson said:

Burgessian said:

StuartDickson said:

From 12 years ago:

The leader of the Social Democrats, Mona Sahlin, is highly critical of the threat by Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan to expel over 100,000 Armenians living in Turkey.

https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3567084

How do you think this will play in Sweden @StuartDickson ?

I seem to remember you were highly sceptical about Sweden wishing to join NATO. Times have changed, of course...

Not sure about the “highly”, but I am a sceptic by nature 😉

My main concern is the unseemly rush, much worse in Finland than in Sweden. Just that alone was always going to be problematic for certain NATO members: most folk don’t like being pushed into sudden drastic changes.

I will certainly admit that I misjudged Swedish public opinion, but in my defence the opinion polling of the last few decades has never indicated enthusiasm for joining NATO. Quite the opposite.

How will it play in Sweden: a hell of a lot of people are going to be mighty relieved! But the majority (probably the majority?) are going to be very worried now. Andersson and the Borgerliga parties seem to have made an historic error of judgment that very seriously threatens Sweden and Finland’s security. Boris Johnson is just a here today/gone tomorrow politician, and our PMs must be rueing the day they entertained the Clown.

Hmm. "Unseemly rush". But surely if you're gonna do it, do it now when Putin is up to his oxters and can't, practically, do much about it. No? Why wait?

Imagine that England was not a member of a major international body, and opinion polling during many decades has shown that the population were perfectly happy not being members of the international body. Then, very suddenly, something unexpected happens that induces many elected parliamentarians to completely change their minds on membership. Now, this is a big deal: if England joins she will gain some rights and privileges which could/might prove useful. On the other hand there come some very cumbersome responsibilities and costs too. Should the politicians just “jump” the electorate into their brand new lust for membership? Or should the nation have a civilised debate about the pros and cons and take a calm decision at a referendum?

I consider the “jumping” of the Finnish and Swedish nations to be an undemocratic national disgrace. Both countries should be ashamed of themselves. Turkey might just have done us a big favour.

You don't think that the threat of invasion and what has happened in Ukraine might have had just a little to do with the decision? And since when was it undemocratic to listen to the wishes of your population? I think the only one who should be ashamed around here is you.

I also think Stuart is rather overlooking the time element. As Ukraine demonstrates, if you announce you are considering joining NATO Putin will attack at once to make you change your mind.

Finland and Sweden won't now be safe until they are under the NATO umbrella.

As to Erdogan, I suspect he is partly sabre rattling for domestic consumption and partly trying to wring a few concessions on these Kurdish groups from the Finns and Swedes in advance of these talks. Hard to believe that if every other NATO member votes aye and the USA indicates this is what he wants that he will try to veto.

Edit - that was a Freudian slip but I like it so much I'm leaving it in!

- “Finland and Sweden won't now be safe until they are under the NATO umbrella.”

Sweden hasn’t been at war for over 200 years. We have been safe without the mass-murder weapons.

All this pseudo-concern for us Swedes and Finns is very touching. Nothing to do with English domestic politics of course. Perish the thought.

You're right (for once) it's nothing to do with them, it's what we call a 'statement of fact.'

If Sweden wishes to apply for NATO membership that's their choice. But as Putin sees it as deliberately provocative and in effect an act of war, merely mentioning it has already buggered the 200 year policy you refer to.

So I say again - having started, you will not be safe if you stop.

Unless, of course, you vote for union with Russia.

Union with the blue mass-murder team or union with the red mass-murder team? Choices, choices…

Bad news. That is your choice now. It is not a choice you want to make, and who can blame you? But that's the situation Andersson and her government faces. It's not difficult to understand why she's made the choice she has.

Magdalena Andersson is not a dictator. We’ll see where we end up. But rest assured that we Swedes will decide, so you can keep your wise counsel to yourself.

"We Swedes"? I thought you were Scottish!

rcs1000 said:

Theuniondivvie said:

rottenborough said:

Lee Anderson was helping cook meals at a food bank and cook training session today judging by my local news.

Looks like it was busy with journos and photographers.

He has found his cause.

Not sure I would bet against him holding the seat.

He also seems to have found himself libelling Jack Monroe..

What is it about Jack Monroe that makes people libel her?

nico679 said:

Gardenwalker said:

nico679 said:

And then they came for the civil servants !

Aided and abetted by the right wing press. The DM also gleefully announces that 50 migrants could be shipped off to Rwanda in two weeks , I’m sure no 10 could do better than that , why not just put them against a wall and shoot them , save on the airfares which could go to the cost of living crisis !

There is something deeply disturbing about the trajectory of the UK under the Tories . It’s all about hate and negativity , who can be next to be set upon to appease the angry mob , of course we still have those terrible leftie lawyers trying to outwit the queen of Mean Patel , next up the Human Rights Act which will get a new name but hollowed out.

It’s the Daily Mail-in-government.
Envy, spite, and bigotry.

The comparison with Major’s government doesn’t quite cut it, I think. Yes Major had run out of ideas and was also beset with sleaze, but in Major / Clarke they actually had a competent and moral core.

So true . The current government is morally bankrupt and is only interested in a divide and rule strategy . I’ve never loathed any government as much as I do the current one .

dixiedean said:

Deleted. Blockquoute and I'm pissed.

RH1992 said:

Eurovision post. The jury final (which acts as a dress rehearsal) just happened and all 25 countries performed in their order that they'll appear on TV tomorrow.

The betting suggests the UK will win the jury vote and having looked at Twitter from fellow enthusiasts and experts there, it looks like the UK act did very well and they remain favourite to win that part of the vote. The jury counts for 50% of the final vote so the public vote going overwhelmingly for Ukraine, if as expected, still means they're hot favourites.

Jury voting odds: https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision-jury

Overall odds: https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

Andy_JS said:

SandyRentool said:

Just done Wordle in 2 for the first time ever!

Congrats.

rottenborough said:

dixiedean said:

Gardenwalker said:

nico679 said:

And then they came for the civil servants !

Aided and abetted by the right wing press. The DM also gleefully announces that 50 migrants could be shipped off to Rwanda in two weeks , I’m sure no 10 could do better than that , why not just put them against a wall and shoot them , save on the airfares which could go to the cost of living crisis !

There is something deeply disturbing about the trajectory of the UK under the Tories . It’s all about hate and negativity , who can be next to be set upon to appease the angry mob , of course we still have those terrible leftie lawyers trying to outwit the queen of Mean Patel , next up the Human Rights Act which will get a new name but hollowed out.

It’s the Daily Mail-in-government.
Envy, spite, and bigotry.

The comparison with Major’s government doesn’t quite cut it, I think. Yes Major had run out of ideas and was also beset with sleaze, but in Major / Clarke they actually had a competent and moral* core.

*Moral in the sense of governing for the good of the country; I’m not able to make a judgment on Major’s or Clarke’s personal morality.

Major was a decent bloke. Attempting to play a ridiculously poor hand as competently as possible.

How much of this is the Australian influence on our politics? A country known for brutal politics. No prisoners are taken.

Seems to me that Crosby and associates like Levido have a massive influence on modern tory politics and strategy. Johnson can't open a window without checking back with these guys.

Baleful.

EPG said:

rottenborough said:

"Mr Rees-Mogg said he would also examine Met Office weather reports over suggestions [civil servant] officials were staying at home on the sunniest days."

Telegraph

True? Sunning themselves.
False? Staying at home because they're afraid of a little rain.

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

Andy_JS said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

I think Johnson is right about working from home. In a way I respect the fact he's said something that he must know will be very unpopular with many if not most people.

JosiasJessop said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

rottenborough said:

Posted without comment...


Chris Williamson
@DerbyChrisW
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Where are the 'left-wing' voices in parliament opposing the grotesque efforts by the British govt to prolong the war in #Ukraine through "lethal aid", while starving essential public services of the resources needed for a good society.

https://twitter.com/DerbyChrisW/status/1525075708095209474

Lethal aid is a horrible phrase. The British Government does want to prolong the war. Public spending in other areas is concurrently being reduced. Spending is looking like it could approach Iraq levels - and that was coming off a buoyant economy.

"The British Government does want to prolong the war."

Both you are Williamson are being pro-Russian shills.

Let's look at the reality.

Firstly, the UK has no power to stop this war. That is up to Russia, and to a lesser extent, Ukraine (even if Ukraine folded, do you have nay doubt that partisan activity would not continue in the occupied territories?)

Secondly, if Russia does not occupy all of Ukraine, then the war would just become a frozen conflict, as it did after 2014. Continuing partisan activity in the occupied territories and a weakened, unsupported Ukraine waiting for the next Russian invasion on flimsy excuses.

Thirdly, what you are both asking for is a Russian 'victory', as that is what stopping aid to Ukraine would cause. Does that mean peace? No. There would be partisan activity, as mentioned above, in the regions Russia occupies. This leads on to:

Fourthly, what makes you think Ukraine's defeat (which is what you are asking for) will bring wider peace? Putin and his government have made their long-term intentions for neighbouring countries quite clear. Give Putin a victory in Ukraine, and he will not stop in Ukraine.

Fifthly, the Ukrainian struggle is a righteous one. There are rarely clearer examples of right-versus-wrong in international affairs, and I'd argue supporting them is morally right.

So yes, it is a perilous path, but dangers lie in all directions. The government does not want to prolong the war: Johnson and co. would be very happy if Russia just left Ukraine. But they do want to staunch Russia's ambitions now, rather than in Poland or the Baltic states.

We should have done so earlier.

Andy_JS said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

I think Johnson is right about working from home. In a way I respect the fact he's said something that he must know will be very unpopular with many if not most people.

Nigelb said:

Andy_JS said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

I think Johnson is right about working from home. In a way I respect the fact he's said something that he must know will be very unpopular with many if not most people.

I thought conservatives believed in the market, not the PM telling people what to do based on his prejudices ?

FeersumEnjineeya said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

On demanding an end to WFH, you mean? Perhaps the government could compromise with a law that no company should be allowed to use WFH as an excuse for poor service.

Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814839/Working-home-DOESNT-work-says-PM-Boris-Johnson-demands-millions-office.html

I think this says a lot more about Johnson than it says about WFH!

"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing."

MattW said:

SandyRentool said:

Just done Wordle in 2 for the first time ever!

Good.

Wordle 329 4/6

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FeersumEnjineeya said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

On demanding an end to WFH, you mean? Perhaps the government could compromise with a law that no company should be allowed to use WFH as an excuse for poor service.

Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814839/Working-home-DOESNT-work-says-PM-Boris-Johnson-demands-millions-office.html

I think this says a lot more about Johnson than it says about WFH!

"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing."

Andy_JS said:

"Vladimir Putin ‘very ill with blood cancer' according to 'top oligarch caught in secret recording'"

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-very-ill-blood-26956349

nico679 said:

And then they came for the civil servants !

Aided and abetted by the right wing press. The DM also gleefully announces that 50 migrants could be shipped off to Rwanda in two weeks , I’m sure no 10 could do better than that , why not just put them against a wall and shoot them , save on the airfares which could go to the cost of living crisis !

There is something deeply disturbing about the trajectory of the UK under the Tories . It’s all about hate and negativity , who can be next to be set upon to appease the angry mob , of course we still have those terrible leftie lawyers trying to outwit the queen of Mean Patel , next up the Human Rights Act which will get a new name but hollowed out.

ydoethur said:

Foxy said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

On demanding an end to WFH, you mean? Perhaps the government could compromise with a law that no company should be allowed to use WFH as an excuse for poor service.

Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814839/Working-home-DOESNT-work-says-PM-Boris-Johnson-demands-millions-office.html

I think this says a lot more about Johnson than it says about WFH!

"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing."

The irony is that Johnson does "Work from Home" and plans to continue to do so.

Why doesn't he live in Camberwell and commute to the office?

I'd be quite happy as a compromise for him to live in Downing Street and commute to work in say, the BMW dealers in Stoke.

Not that I would buy a used car off him.

Unpopular said:

RochdalePioneers said:

nico679 said:

And then they came for the civil servants !

Aided and abetted by the right wing press. The DM also gleefully announces that 50 migrants could be shipped off to Rwanda in two weeks , I’m sure no 10 could do better than that , why not just put them against a wall and shoot them , save on the airfares which could go to the cost of living crisis !

There is something deeply disturbing about the trajectory of the UK under the Tories . It’s all about hate and negativity , who can be next to be set upon to appease the angry mob , of course we still have those terrible leftie lawyers trying to outwit the queen of Mean Patel , next up the Human Rights Act which will get a new name but hollowed out.

I rewatched The Uncivil War last night. It highlights the brilliant ruthlessness of the Vote Leave campaign. Take Back Control was a brilliant slogan - pity the government have failed to deliver on it.

On your trajectory point, the drama plays on this towards the end. There is a fictionalised remain focus group where Craig Oliver gets sick of the responses he is hearing to the remain push lines and storms in to argue with the panelists, many of whom are way beyond facts or reason. That the push lines were also way beyond facts or reason was a big problem...

Yes, we have unleashed pandora from her box. An angry, poorly informed "down with the facts" mood which is being fuelled for electoral reasons by a Tory party dumb enough to think the mob can be controlled.

Have you read All Out War? I think the drama was primarily based on this book, though fictionalised and with Dominic Cummings as protagonist.

The book also goes into the dysfunction of the Remain campaign, being a mixture of hubris and Cameron being reluctant to go for Blue-On-Blue. The real criticism is left for the Labour leader at the time. He was worse than useless. If he had just come out for Brexit, Corbyn would have done less harm to Remain. I can feel myself getting angry at the useless bastard just thinking about it, which is no way to start a Eurovision Saturday. But both book and show were very good.

Stereodog said:

ydoethur said:

Foxy said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

On demanding an end to WFH, you mean? Perhaps the government could compromise with a law that no company should be allowed to use WFH as an excuse for poor service.

Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814839/Working-home-DOESNT-work-says-PM-Boris-Johnson-demands-millions-office.html

I think this says a lot more about Johnson than it says about WFH!

"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing."

The irony is that Johnson does "Work from Home" and plans to continue to do so.

Why doesn't he live in Camberwell and commute to the office?

I'd be quite happy as a compromise for him to live in Downing Street and commute to work in say, the BMW dealers in Stoke.

Not that I would buy a used car off him.

Johnson's argument is both pathetic and disingenuous. The more I work from home the more the struggling high street in my home town benefits because I shop locally and order lunch from local outlets. Johnson is only interested in reviving the kind of businesses that have influential CEOs like Pret.

Also I don't understand the argument that WFH is bad because some sectors or professions can't take advantage of it. I have to be on call during weekends and bank holidays but I don't resent people who don't have to take work calls during leisure time.

I'm working hybrid at the moment and quite frankly 90% of the time I'm in the office is a fucking waste of money. I go to my desk and do the exact same work I would have done at home except I'm £40 poorer and sodding Thameslink is £40 richer.

OnlyLivingBoy said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

On demanding an end to WFH, you mean? Perhaps the government could compromise with a law that no company should be allowed to use WFH as an excuse for poor service.

Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814839/Working-home-DOESNT-work-says-PM-Boris-Johnson-demands-millions-office.html

I think this says a lot more about Johnson than it says about WFH!

"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing."

Typical of Johnson that he can't imagine that other people aren't as lazy and dysfunctional as he is. I WFH two days a week and am no less efficient on those days, indeed for tasks that require focus I would say I am more productive when I don't have all the noise of a trading floor. Plus I avoid the commute, can do household tasks or talk to my kids in moments of downtime, and enjoy the birds singing outside my garden office. The other three days are more than enough for face time with colleagues.

Stereodog said:

Stocky said:

Foxy said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

On demanding an end to WFH, you mean? Perhaps the government could compromise with a law that no company should be allowed to use WFH as an excuse for poor service.

Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814839/Working-home-DOESNT-work-says-PM-Boris-Johnson-demands-millions-office.html

I think this says a lot more about Johnson than it says about WFH!

"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing."

The irony is that Johnson does "Work from Home" and plans to continue to do so.

Why doesn't he live in Camberwell and commute to the office?

? As was the case before the pandemic.

This is about people using the pandemic as an excuse to alter their working arrangements.

My area of the civil service dangled two days WFH as a trade off for other contract reforms before the pandemic. The government used to be in favour of it as it reduced the need for expensive office space. It's just that now they've identified it as a good wedge issue for their culture wars.

Jonathan said:

Stereodog said:

Stocky said:

Foxy said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

SandyRentool said:

Bozo, Moggster and the Mail trying their best to piss off as many middle class professionals as possible.

On demanding an end to WFH, you mean? Perhaps the government could compromise with a law that no company should be allowed to use WFH as an excuse for poor service.

Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814839/Working-home-DOESNT-work-says-PM-Boris-Johnson-demands-millions-office.html

I think this says a lot more about Johnson than it says about WFH!

"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing."

The irony is that Johnson does "Work from Home" and plans to continue to do so.

Why doesn't he live in Camberwell and commute to the office?

? As was the case before the pandemic.

This is about people using the pandemic as an excuse to alter their working arrangements.

My area of the civil service dangled two days WFH as a trade off for other contract reforms before the pandemic. The government used to be in favour of it as it reduced the need for expensive office space. It's just that now they've identified it as a good wedge issue for their culture wars.

My private firm (a big global publisher), stopped leasing expensive buildings, engaged a Harvard prof to recommend what a good balance might be in theory, started a pretty informed debate about the relative benefits of working at home for different roles and experience levels and having just reopened the office has given teams three months to figure out what is best for them. Productivity is up.

I don’t see why the government can’t do the same.

rottenborough said:

What fresh hell is this?



Emily Thornberry
@EmilyThornberry
Planning my dish-from-each-country-in-the-final Eurovision meal for Saturday night. It does rather colour my views about who I'd rather get through the 2nd semi final. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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