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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,469
    edited January 2022
    Pulpstar said:

    'We can’t vaccinate the planet every six months', says JCVI chief
    Fourth Covid jabs should not be offered until there is more evidence, the head of Britain's vaccine body has said - as he warned that giving boosters to people every six months was “not sustainable”.

    6 monthly jabs may or may not be the right thing, but his remit is not "THE PLANET". It's the UK. Once again heading outside their remit.

    I remember when they were saying no need for a booster or to do kids, we need to vaccinate everybody else.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,091
    Leon said:

    Most of my best meals have been at non-Michelin places

    Random top ten (I could choose eighty more)


    Eating at Marco Pierre White's very first place, in south London (forget where) - before he had a star, wow

    A crab and asparagus dish in a restaurant made from a garage outside Chiang Mai, Thailand

    A beef massaman curry on a beach in Ko Tao, also Thailand

    Eating at the first Barrafina off the Strand

    Osyters and foie gras and gingerbread in some brilliant old school brasserie in Nantes, France

    Dinner by Heston (that has a star or two)

    A steak at G W Bush's favourite steak restaurant in Austin Texas

    Another steak at Cabana Las Lilas in Buenos Aires

    Tiny gnocchi in a private restaurant on a private vineyard on the island of Pantelleria, Italy

    Some sardines, recently, in a scruffy cafe above a fish market in Sagres, Portugal



    How much of this is about company, location, mood, weather, post-coital bliss - rather than food? At least half of it





    5 would have been sufficient
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,405
    Andy_JS said:

    Tell us more.
    Well, I was in New York for work, and I normally just grab dinner at the Grand Central food court because it's close to the hotel and I like railway stations. But my wife had recently also been in NYC and recommended a place she had gone, sending me a link. Turned out there were two restaurants at the same address, a relatively cheap noodle place downstairs and a very fancy Japanese vegan restaurant upstairs. The link she sent had the name of the fancy place, but she had eaten at the noodle place. I went to the named place.
    The menu was largely in Japanese and the main item was a $130 per person 12 course tasting menu. They also had a $65 "tea pairing menu" so I thought that sounds more reasonable. Turned out that "tea pairing" meant you paid $65 for tea on top of the $130 for the food. I got a $5 beer too!
    The food was very nice if a bit weird, but not worth that kind of money. And a combination of salty food, strong green tea and embarrassment at my predicament meant I was awake the whole night, despite the time difference. I managed to claim about a third of it on expenses.
    The whole experience simply reinforced my belief that I am more of a food court kind of person.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    Pulpstar said:

    'We can’t vaccinate the planet every six months', says JCVI chief
    Fourth Covid jabs should not be offered until there is more evidence, the head of Britain's vaccine body has said - as he warned that giving boosters to people every six months was “not sustainable”.

    6 monthly jabs may or may not be the right thing, but his remit is not "THE PLANET". It's the UK. Once again heading outside their remit.

    Another candidate for the British pioneering settlement on Pluto.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,222

    I remember when they were saying no need for a booster, we need to vaccinate everybody else.
    It's really really cretinous.

    Meanwhile Northern Ireland has just dropped 4 days worth of data - if the UK reported like this and at the same rate it would be > 1 million cases.
  • GIN1138 said:

    There's no doubt Blair was very successful and an election winning machine who destroyed the Tories for a decade.

    If electoral success is the criteria for a Knighthood then by all means give him one but I trust when the time comes OGH will also support a Knighthood for "Sir" Boris Johnson (London Mayor twice, won the the EU referendum for LEAVE and gave the Tories their biggest majority in a general election since 1987) ? ;)

    Of course Peppa will get a KG. It goes with the job.
  • YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    GIN1138 said:

    There's no doubt Blair was very successful and an election winning machine who destroyed the Tories for a decade.

    If electoral success is the criteria for a Knighthood then by all means give him one but I trust when the time comes OGH will also support a Knighthood for "Sir" Boris Johnson (London Mayor twice, won the the EU referendum for LEAVE and gave the Tories their biggest majority in a general election since 1987) ? ;)


    If massive electoral success is the criterion, how did we end up with Sir Nicholas William Peter Clegg?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,091
    eek said:

    When did they promise a referendum and under what leader?

    When SKS offers you one then you have a valid argument until then it's another of your pipe dreams.

    As for calling you a drunkard, when else do people resort to insults before 10pm at night on a web forum...

    The only person who does it on this site is you and being frank you exhibit a lot of habits of a drunk...
    Jog on loser
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,619
    Andy_JS said:

    You can pay hundreds of pounds for very ordinary meals in London and hardly anything for highly-rated restaurants in unfashionable parts of the country. It depends whether people are bothered by visiting those unfashionable places.

    We used to have one of those in Mansfield, by someone who had been working for one of the famous chefs. Superb - but eventually gave up the struggle. Even at those prices they were tight on customers.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753

    Most stressful meal (to put onto expenses as well) was the time I had to meet up with a client, and the only available slot in his calendar was 8pm onwards, so he said he'd take me to a nice restaurant and we could have a meal on it.

    All the senior bods at work told me, pay for it, pay for it all.

    The restaurant he took me to?

    Stringfellows, who knew the lapdancing club also had a restaurant attached, the meal and drinks were reasonable (£400 all in but most of that was drinks), the thing that terrified me and wasn't sure if I might get sacked.

    The heavenly money you buy at the front door which you give to the ladies for a (private) lap dance, that came to over £2,000.

    Wasn't sure how to put that on expenses.

    Most disastrous meal I have ever heard of was a mate of mine, in the Far East

    He had a frankly brilliant job, as a producer for Al Jazeera Asia, based in Kuala Lumpur. They were paying crazy money, tax was minimal, he got sent around Asia to do stories (all on exes with 5 star hotels), and the stories were really interesting: Papua New Guinea one day, Japan the next

    A superb job and if he'd stayed in it a decade he would have been set for life

    Then he went to Hong Kong for a story, had another luxe dinner on the company, forgot company policy, and mistakenly claimed for one beer. ONE

    Al Jazeera does not like paying for alcohol. He got sacked immediately, no appeals allowed. His career crumpled and he has never recovered. He now scrabbles around for badly paid freelance radio gigs

    Quite an expensive beer. Actual cost maybe £4
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793

    Well, the one loophole is he has just recovered from COVID, but that's amazing timing (and his social media doesn't give any suggestion he has). Other than you have to have a pretty serious underlying medical condition, which seems somewhat unlikely for a elite sports star.
    Probably is that. And maybe he got a well-timed dose on purpose. Only way to reconcile 2 strong & conflicting desires, (i) Not to take the vaccine and (ii) To win the Aussie and get to the record 21 slams. I'm not usually a buyer of this sort of devious speculation but I can believe it here. He really is anti-vax and he really is into breaking all the records and thus nailing the GOAT status.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,661
    kyf_100 said:

    I'm in manchester for a meeting in a couple of weeks, I've just learned the person I'm meeting is a vegetarian. Any recommendations?
    Don't discuss vegetarianism during your meal.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    malcolmg said:

    Jog on loser
    So you've not been offered anything by SKS - thought as much.

    Yep the drink has pickled your brain - allowing very brief moments of clarity within a sea of pointless insults.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753
    malcolmg said:

    5 would have been sufficient
    Touche
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,619

    Bit like Japan. Tojo was a genius?

    I'm trying to remember the AltHistory story where some people form the future end up in the 1940s - "So you are saying that Germany and Japan are now pacifists? And the Jews have built the new Sparta?"
    4 - Was not assassinated by the Allies as they thought he would do more damage alive.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,661
    King & Queen of Sweden test positive. (BBC)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    Leon said:

    Most disastrous meal I have ever heard of was a mate of mine, in the Far East

    He had a frankly brilliant job, as a producer for Al Jazeera Asia, based in Kuala Lumpur. They were paying crazy money, tax was minimal, he got sent around Asia to do stories (all on exes with 5 star hotels), and the stories were really interesting: Papua New Guinea one day, Japan the next

    A superb job and if he'd stayed in it a decade he would have been set for life

    Then he went to Hong Kong for a story, had another luxe dinner on the company, forgot company policy, and mistakenly claimed for one beer. ONE

    Al Jazeera does not like paying for alcohol. He got sacked immediately, no appeals allowed. His career crumpled and he has never recovered. He now scrabbles around for badly paid freelance radio gigs

    Quite an expensive beer. Actual cost maybe £4
    In 1996 I was in Hong Kong. When I ordered a Stinger at the bar, the bartender asked if I wanted to the bar bill put on the room as "Dry cleaning", "Food" or something that I could suggest.

    Sadly, I was there on my own tab.....
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,222

    Another candidate for the British pioneering settlement on Pluto.
    Antivaxxers in the replies are lapping it up.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,955

    Don't discuss vegetarianism during your meal.
    How do you know when someone is a vegan? They tell you.

    But it has buggered up my plans somewhat as I was thinking about booking hawksmoor, until I learned of my friend's dietary requirements. Now I'm not sure what to pick - I don't know Manchester very well.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753
    MaxPB said:

    No guarantee of that, if they dilute the food quality and keep prices the same they'll fail the same as Jamie Oliver did. That's the underlying issue, the failures served crap food for high prices (relative to the quality). The Ivy spin offs, as yet, don't do that, the food is reliably decent, the locations are great, the restaurants themselves have a good vibe and the service is solid, plus easy to do for 2 under £100 without a bottle of wine.
    Unfashionable take: I am always glad to see a Pizza Express, if I am absolutely stuck for somewhere to eat in some nightmare town. Especially if with kids

    The kids get the doughballs and puds, I get a decent salad or pizza and pleasant wine in an affable joint, and no one goes bankrupt
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,674
    edited January 2022

    Most stressful meal (to put onto expenses as well) was the time I had to meet up with a client, and the only available slot in his calendar was 8pm onwards, so he said he'd take me to a nice restaurant and we could have a meal on it.

    All the senior bods at work told me, pay for it, pay for it all.

    The restaurant he took me to?

    Stringfellows, who knew the lapdancing club also had a restaurant attached, the meal and drinks were reasonable (£400 all in but most of that was drinks), the thing that terrified me and wasn't sure if I might get sacked.

    The heavenly money you buy at the front door which you give to the ladies for a (private) lap dance, that came to over £2,000.

    Wasn't sure how to put that on expenses.

    At the more modest (read pathetic) end of the scale, in my very first job as an IT manager I was sent to a meeting in Germany. After we'd finished, I went to my room with The Times. The hotel had the usual channels plus some adult channels, with a notice saying that you could watch for 6 minutes and would then be charged 20 marks (as the currency then was).

    A bit curious, I turned it on, Emmanuelle somewhere or other. She lounged around toplessly for several minutes, without anything else much happening. Bored, I returned to The Times to read about the (much more interesting) balance of payments crisis, and forgot the 6-minute rule.

    Next morning "Miscellaneous, DM 20" was on the bill. So, a dilemma. Do I claim it on expenses, cheating my multi-billion employer of a trivial DM 20, or do I tell my supervisor (a notably austere but absent-minded manager who never checked claims) why I'm not claiming that item?

    I compromised. I left it in the claim, but didn't claim for the DM 25 taxi ride to the airport, so Ciba-Geigy was DM 5 better off.

    Innocent days! Nowadays I'd just not claim and explain without the slightest embarrassment. But in my first job in the 70s...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    After yesterdays discussion of the state of comedy, I stumbled across this piss take from 7 years....just about nails it.

    Harry and Paul - Panel Show
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCbD6MZqQWM&t=1s

    Very good.

    Another difference between UK and US television, is that the comedy panel show is almost unheard of across the pond.

    Comedy Central did @midnight a few years ago - you can guess what slot that was on - which was a variation on comedians play Jeopardy; but it’s an alien format otherwise. Which is surprising, because as Harry and Paul alluded to in the sketch above, it’s a really cheap way of making television.

    Sitcoms and sketch shows are much more prominent in the States.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,091
    eek said:

    So you've not been offered anything by SKS - thought as much.

    Yep the drink has pickled your brain - allowing very brief moments of clarity within a sea of pointless insults.
    Just for you arsehole

    Scotland Act 1978
    The government returned to the issue of devolution in November 1977. Separate bills for Scotland and Wales were published and support from the Liberals was obtained. In spite of continued opposition requiring another guillotine motion, the Bills were passed.[1] During the passage of the Scotland Act 1978 through Parliament, an amendment introduced by Labour MP George Cunningham added a requirement that the bill had to be approved by 40% of the total registered electorate, as well as a simple majority (50% + 1).
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    Pulpstar said:

    Antivaxxers in the replies are lapping it up.
    If nothing else, manufacturing 16 billion doses of a vaccine every year is perfectly possible. In world GDP terms that would be a fart in a thunderstorm.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,100

    In 1996 I was in Hong Kong. When I ordered a Stinger at the bar, the bartender asked if I wanted to the bar bill put on the room as "Dry cleaning", "Food" or something that I could suggest.

    Sadly, I was there on my own tab.....

    https://www.4rfv.co.uk/c/5694/extra-vegetables-television

    All the bar bills are billed to Extra veg
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753

    At the more modest (read pathetic) end of the scale, in my very first job as an IT manager I was sent to a meeting in Germany. After we'd finished, I went to my room with The Times. The hotel had the usual channels plus some adult channels, with a notice saying that you could watch for 6 minutes and would then be charged 20 marks (as the currency then was).

    A bit curious, I turned it on, Emmanuelle somewhere or other. She lounged around toplessly for several minutes, without anything else much happening. Bored, I returned to The Times to read about the (much more interesting) balance of payments crisis, and forgot the 6-minute rule.

    Next morning "Miscellaneous, DM 20" was on the bill. So, a dilemma. Do I claim it on expenses, cheating my multi-billion employer of a trivial DM 20, or do I tell my supervisor (a notably austere but absent-minded manager who never checked claims) why I'm not claiming that item?

    I compromised. I left it in the claim, but didn't claim for the DM 25 taxi ride to the airport, so Ciba-Geigy was DM 5 better off.

    Innocent days! Nowadays I'd just not claim and explain without the slightest embarrassment. But in my first job in the 70s...
    The advent of internet porn was a real downer for hotel owners. They used to make squillions charging customers for naughty movies, now they don't. This is one reason they charge for wifi use, so they can at least get q few quid out of your wanking

    interesting gossip: it is - or was - a well known oddity that solo female guests watch just as much porn as solo men, perhaps more
  • Pulpstar said:

    'We can’t vaccinate the planet every six months', says JCVI chief
    Fourth Covid jabs should not be offered until there is more evidence, the head of Britain's vaccine body has said - as he warned that giving boosters to people every six months was “not sustainable”.

    6 monthly jabs may or may not be the right thing, but his remit is not "THE PLANET". It's the UK. Once again heading outside their remit.

    Unless we vaccinate the planet - collectively - then we aren't immune from the next mutation.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,817
    Leon said:

    Unfashionable take: I am always glad to see a Pizza Express, if I am absolutely stuck for somewhere to eat in some nightmare town. Especially if with kids

    The kids get the doughballs and puds, I get a decent salad or pizza and pleasant wine in an affable joint, and no one goes bankrupt
    I think that's what Nandos is for, though I don't have kids. It's a good value cheap meal that's also not horrible. Quick and easy, great for pre or post movie viewing depending on the time of day.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Leon said:

    Most of my best meals have been at non-Michelin places

    Random top ten (I could choose eighty more)


    Eating at Marco Pierre White's very first place, in south London (forget where) - before he had a star, wow

    A crab and asparagus dish in a restaurant made from a garage outside Chiang Mai, Thailand

    A beef massaman curry on a beach in Ko Tao, also Thailand

    Eating at the first Barrafina off the Strand

    Osyters and foie gras and gingerbread in some brilliant old school brasserie in Nantes, France

    Dinner by Heston (that has a star or two)

    A steak at G W Bush's favourite steak restaurant in Austin Texas

    Another steak at Cabana Las Lilas in Buenos Aires

    Tiny gnocchi in a private restaurant on a private vineyard on the island of Pantelleria, Italy

    Some sardines, recently, in a scruffy cafe above a fish market in Sagres, Portugal



    How much of this is about company, location, mood, weather, post-coital bliss - rather than food? At least half of it





    MPW's first restaurant was in Earlsfield SW17 in Wandsworth - it was over the road from Wandsworth common and very near my first 2 London homes - a rental in Balham when it was still quite cheap and my first ever property in Honeywell road, Wandsworth - in 1981 I think again before the area became super pricey during the glory years of the blessed one! Checking google maps looks like the restaurant is now called Chez Bruce!
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    malcolmg said:

    Just for you arsehole

    Scotland Act 1978
    The government returned to the issue of devolution in November 1977. Separate bills for Scotland and Wales were published and support from the Liberals was obtained. In spite of continued opposition requiring another guillotine motion, the Bills were passed.[1] During the passage of the Scotland Act 1978 through Parliament, an amendment introduced by Labour MP George Cunningham added a requirement that the bill had to be approved by 40% of the total registered electorate, as well as a simple majority (50% + 1).
    So 1978 -

    Firstly it's ancient history and pre Thatcher.

    Secondly all the oil money has now gone (which is annoying and explains the attacks but the damage cannot be undone).

    Personally I would be very happy for Scotland to inherit what is left of the North Sea Oil Industry (from memory it's mainly decommissioning costs that haven't been saved for and that the Government is going to cut corners to reduce).
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    It's the principle that Gordon Ramsey among others) has been pushing for years - short, simple menus are cheaper, easier to get the chefs expert in all the dishes and actually are preferred by the diners.

    The bit at the start of the meal where everyone is asking "Should we go for the set menu 1, 2, 3, 4.... or order off the main menu or the special menu or the specially special menu or...." , just shortens my life for no added value.
    That’s quite common where you have a chef with his name on the door, but who isn’t usually there, even when they have a star or two. Better to have a short menu, which can be done well and also prepared for in advance, which is especially useful at lunchtimes or when trying to double-stack the evening tables.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703

    At the more modest (read pathetic) end of the scale, in my very first job as an IT manager I was sent to a meeting in Germany. After we'd finished, I went to my room with The Times. The hotel had the usual channels plus some adult channels, with a notice saying that you could watch for 6 minutes and would then be charged 20 marks (as the currency then was).

    A bit curious, I turned it on, Emmanuelle somewhere or other. She lounged around toplessly for several minutes, without anything else much happening. Bored, I returned to The Times to read about the (much more interesting) balance of payments crisis, and forgot the 6-minute rule.

    Next morning "Miscellaneous, DM 20" was on the bill. So, a dilemma. Do I claim it on expenses, cheating my multi-billion employer of a trivial DM 20, or do I tell my supervisor (a notably austere but absent-minded manager who never checked claims) why I'm not claiming that item?

    I compromised. I left it in the claim, but didn't claim for the DM 25 taxi ride to the airport, so Ciba-Geigy was DM 5 better off.

    Innocent days! Nowadays I'd just not claim and explain without the slightest embarrassment. But in my first job in the 70s...
    Isn't that some kind of crime nevertheless? Stealing paperclips from your employer because you paid for some photocopying paper the week before.

    Isn't it called something?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    MaxPB said:

    I think that's what Nandos is for, though I don't have kids. It's a good value cheap meal that's also not horrible. Quick and easy, great for pre or post movie viewing depending on the time of day.
    They both work for that. Indeed, I think a big chunk of their respective markets is parents-with-younger-kids.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,222

    Unless we vaccinate the planet - collectively - then we aren't immune from the next mutation.
    That's a UN level/type decision. It simply isn't the JCVI's remit.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753
    felix said:

    MPW's first restaurant was in Earlsfield SW17 in Wandsworth - it was over the road from Wandsworth common and very near my first 2 London homes - a rental in Balham when it was still quite cheap and my first ever property in Honeywell road, Wandsworth - in 1981 I think again before the area became super pricey during the glory years of the blessed one! Checking google maps looks like the restaurant is now called Chez Bruce!
    Yes, that's it! An obscure part of Wandsworth. Took us about ten hours to find. But so worth it. He really was a genius chef - he did something with snails which I can still remember. Decades later
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    Sandpit said:

    That’s quite common where you have a chef with his name on the door, but who isn’t usually there, even when they have a star or two. Better to have a short menu, which can be done well and also prepared for in advance, which is especially useful at lunchtimes or when trying to double-stack the evening tables.
    It's just common sense - have a dozen or 16 dishes and the kitchen crew can really perfect them, rather than trying to do an ok job on 128....
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,156
    Leon said:

    Unfashionable take: I am always glad to see a Pizza Express, if I am absolutely stuck for somewhere to eat in some nightmare town. Especially if with kids

    The kids get the doughballs and puds, I get a decent salad or pizza and pleasant wine in an affable joint, and no one goes bankrupt
    Last time I ate in a Pizza Express I vowed never to do so again. Pizza quality at Pizza Hut is higher.

    The only place that rivals it for disappointment is the Californian burrito chain (Tortilla?)
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703

    In 1996 I was in Hong Kong. When I ordered a Stinger at the bar, the bartender asked if I wanted to the bar bill put on the room as "Dry cleaning", "Food" or something that I could suggest.

    Sadly, I was there on my own tab.....
    Chinnery or Captain's Bar?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793
    edited January 2022
    Leon said:

    It makes a nice change from the fucking plague, or indeed politics - which is really quite boring at the moment. Stasis
    Yes, but I can't contribute because I hardly ever go to restaurants. Feel excluded. Let's get back to perceptive & densely argued scenarios for the next general election complete with estimated probabilities and steers to standout bets.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753
    MaxPB said:

    I think that's what Nandos is for, though I don't have kids. It's a good value cheap meal that's also not horrible. Quick and easy, great for pre or post movie viewing depending on the time of day.
    Yes, I have frequented Nandos for that exact reason. Once I got quite blotto, to bleach my mind of the Smurfs movie I had just witnessed
  • Pulpstar said:

    That's a UN level/type decision. It simply isn't the JCVI's remit.
    Not his remit. But definitely his field. And how we manage the pandemic globally directly affects how we manage it here.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    TOPPING said:

    Chinnery or Captain's Bar?
    I can't actually remember - sorry. It was on the edge of Wan Chai, IIRC.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753

    Last time I ate in a Pizza Express I vowed never to do so again. Pizza quality at Pizza Hut is higher.

    The only place that rivals it for disappointment is the Californian burrito chain (Tortilla?)
    That's sad. Maybe it has gone downhill? My kids are older so it is fair to say I haven't been for quite a while
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    edited January 2022
    Pulpstar said:

    That's a UN level/type decision. It simply isn't the JCVI's remit.
    The issue is that we can't vaccinate the world, heck we can't vaccinate all the UK and that's before I look at places like Bulgaria let alone Africa.

    So we need to learn to live with the disease and hope we don't end up with a mutation that makes it both easily transmittable (Omicron) and serious (Delta) and they continue along the Omicron trajectory (easily transmittable but mild and hopefully milder as our bodies get used to identifying and attacking it).
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Here in Almeria we live in a small village - under 3k and we have a super restaurant 200 metres from the house and at least a dozen more [ several award winning] within 10 miles where you can eat superbly well for much less than €50 a head including wine. We are near a tourist area but popular with Spanish tourists and even at the height of summer the whole area has probably under 100k of locals and holiday makers. Nearly all of the eating options from tapas to totr offer great quality and value. Apart from the 320 sunny days and fantastic semi-desert terrai it is one of the joys of living here.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,156
    Sandpit said:

    Very good.

    Another difference between UK and US television, is that the comedy panel show is almost unheard of across the pond.

    Comedy Central did @midnight a few years ago - you can guess what slot that was on - which was a variation on comedians play Jeopardy; but it’s an alien format otherwise. Which is surprising, because as Harry and Paul alluded to in the sketch above, it’s a really cheap way of making television.

    Sitcoms and sketch shows are much more prominent in the States.
    On the radio they do have "Wait, wait, don't tell me." Which is a superior version of the News Quiz.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703
    felix said:

    MPW's first restaurant was in Earlsfield SW17 in Wandsworth - it was over the road from Wandsworth common and very near my first 2 London homes - a rental in Balham when it was still quite cheap and my first ever property in Honeywell road, Wandsworth - in 1981 I think again before the area became super pricey during the glory years of the blessed one! Checking google maps looks like the restaurant is now called Chez Bruce!
    When my sister was at Oxford many years ago we took our parents out for dinner at a very unprepossessing, but well-known place "Les Quats'Saison" in Summertown. The chef came over was very chatty (and French) and the portions miniscule. We enjoyed the food such as it was, came home, and ate packets of chocolate digestive biscuits because we were still famished.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    kyf_100 said:

    I'm in manchester for a meeting in a couple of weeks, I've just learned the person I'm meeting is a vegetarian. Any recommendations?
    As I said earlier, try The Ivy – their dedicated vegetarian menu is as extensive as their normal menu. I swear by it because 99% of the time at least one of my guests is vegetarian.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    kyf_100 said:

    If the hotel doesn't have free wifi I am going somewhere else. Premier Inn does free wifi. Everywhere does free wifi, and if they don't... well, haven't they heard of tethering?

    Speaking of fine dining, I met up with an ex of mine a few weeks ago, and I asked her what she was doing with her life, career wise, these days.

    She said to me "Kyf, I feed and cook meals for the homeless, unemployed and alcoholics, the people on the very bottom rung of society, the people who can't help themselves."

    I said "Oh, so you work in the charity sector then?"

    She replied "No, I'm a chef at Wetherspoons."
    I endaevour to have a decent enough mobile signal that I can tether so don't need to use the Hotel wifi signal. It usually isn't any great shakes.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,396
    TOPPING said:


    Anyway, TB yes of course he should have (had ages ago) a knighthood and probably more than that.

    i don't think there is anything "more" than Order of the Garter. It's in HMQ's personal gift.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703
    kinabalu said:

    Yes, but I can't contribute because I hardly ever go to restaurants. Feel excluded. Let's get back to perceptive & densely argued scenarios for the next general election complete with estimated probabilities and steers to standout bets.
    Surely the bar snacks at "that bar" are out of this world.
  • MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594
    I see poor old Professor Pollard is in danger of having his right to be regarded as an 'expert' revoked by the Political Betting Expertise Licensing Committee.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703

    I can't actually remember - sorry. It was on the edge of Wan Chai, IIRC.
    How ghastly.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    French anti-vax twins die of Covid: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59867046

    Interesting to read their whole backstory though. I had never heard of them before. The most remarkable thing is how they managed to make themselves look so ridiculous (both physically and otherwise) in their later lives.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753
    felix said:

    Here in Almeria we live in a small village - under 3k and we have a super restaurant 200 metres from the house and at least a dozen more [ several award winning] within 10 miles where you can eat superbly well for much less than €50 a head including wine. We are near a tourist area but popular with Spanish tourists and even at the height of summer the whole area has probably under 100k of locals and holiday makers. Nearly all of the eating options from tapas to totr offer great quality and value. Apart from the 320 sunny days and fantastic semi-desert terrai it is one of the joys of living here.

    Thanks for that. It is 4C with flakes of snow here in London. And we have 2-3 more months of this

    It is going to be quite wearing. I am desperate to flee, but everywhere interesting, hot and sunny is either shut or too risky or about to explode with Omicron
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    kyf_100 said:

    If the hotel doesn't have free wifi I am going somewhere else. Premier Inn does free wifi. Everywhere does free wifi, and if they don't... well, haven't they heard of tethering?

    Speaking of fine dining, I met up with an ex of mine a few weeks ago, and I asked her what she was doing with her life, career wise, these days.

    She said to me "Kyf, I feed and cook meals for the homeless, unemployed and alcoholics, the people on the very bottom rung of society, the people who can't help themselves."

    I said "Oh, so you work in the charity sector then?"

    She replied "No, I'm a chef at Wetherspoons."
    With unlimited mobile data [ we've had that for several years in my obscure part of Spain at €30 a month] why on earth does anyone bother with free wifi anymore?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703

    i don't think there is anything "more" than Order of the Garter. It's in HMQ's personal gift.
    Well no but could have been made a peer.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793
    TOPPING said:

    Surely the bar snacks at "that bar" are out of this world.
    That's it. I'm off. I refuse to be patronized.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    eek said:

    The issue is that we can't vaccinate the world, heck we can't vaccinate all the UK and that's before I look at places like Bulgaria let alone Africa.

    So we need to learn to live with the disease and hope we don't end up with a mutation that makes it both easily transmittable (Omicron) and serious (Delta) and they continue along the Omicron trajectory (easily transmittable but mild and hopefully milder as our bodies get used to identifying and attacking it).
    Without the boosters, we would be in a far worse place in the UK (and in Europe)

    In addition the ludicrous miscalculations of the percentages of children that would get COVID meant that JCVI slowed down/blocked child vaccinations in this country. At one point they were using a percentage of 5-15 getting the virus that was lower *than the number who had got a positive test already*.....
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,381
    eek said:

    So 1978 -

    Firstly it's ancient history and pre Thatcher.

    Secondly all the oil money has now gone (which is annoying and explains the attacks but the damage cannot be undone).

    Personally I would be very happy for Scotland to inherit what is left of the North Sea Oil Industry (from memory it's mainly decommissioning costs that haven't been saved for and that the Government is going to cut corners to reduce).
    The SNP also went from having 11 seats to 2 at the following GE. I know the SNP try to claim they weren't to blame for Callaghan's government collapsing, but their collapse in 1979 makes it much less likely they'd be willing to bring down a Labour government again.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,619
    Back to yesterday's pizza theme.

    This little countertop pizza oven is tempting. 450C.

    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/reviews/optima-pizza-express-napoli-pizza-oven-review
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    malcolmg said:

    Were you not embarrassed to let him pay whether rich or not.
    Never be embarrased, to let someone seriously rich buy you lunch. Especially those from cultures where the extravagant display of wealth is part of the personality, and they get off on how much they can drop in a restaurant in a couple of hours.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,661

    Unless we vaccinate the planet - collectively - then we aren't immune from the next mutation.
    I misread that as "vacate the planet" and thought I'd won you over to the cause.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689
    kinabalu said:

    Probably is that. And maybe he got a well-timed dose on purpose. Only way to reconcile 2 strong & conflicting desires, (i) Not to take the vaccine and (ii) To win the Aussie and get to the record 21 slams. I'm not usually a buyer of this sort of devious speculation but I can believe it here. He really is anti-vax and he really is into breaking all the records and thus nailing the GOAT status.
    Greatest of all the tw@ts ?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703
    felix said:

    With unlimited mobile data [ we've had that for several years in my obscure part of Spain at €30 a month] why on earth does anyone bother with free wifi anymore?
    There is a question or was as to whether roaming will continue post-Brexit, wasn't there?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    Leon said:

    The advent of internet porn was a real downer for hotel owners. They used to make squillions charging customers for naughty movies, now they don't. This is one reason they charge for wifi use, so they can at least get q few quid out of your wanking

    interesting gossip: it is - or was - a well known oddity that solo female guests watch just as much porn as solo men, perhaps more
    Not sure it's that much of an oddity – aren't around 40% of the leading p*rn site's visitors female? I'm sure I read as much.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    TOPPING said:

    When my sister was at Oxford many years ago we took our parents out for dinner at a very unprepossessing, but well-known place "Les Quats'Saison" in Summertown. The chef came over was very chatty (and French) and the portions miniscule. We enjoyed the food such as it was, came home, and ate packets of chocolate digestive biscuits because we were still famished.
    Sounds like early nouvelle cuisine - de rigeur for us supermodels back in the day :smiley:
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    TOPPING said:

    How ghastly.
    It was actually rather good.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703
    felix said:

    Sounds like early nouvelle cuisine - de rigeur for us supermodels back in the day :smiley:
    Yep it was the very beginning/height of nouvelle cuisine and Raymond Blanc (for it was he) was its cheerleader.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    Leon said:

    Thanks for that. It is 4C with flakes of snow here in London. And we have 2-3 more months of this

    It is going to be quite wearing. I am desperate to flee, but everywhere interesting, hot and sunny is either shut or too risky or about to explode with Omicron
    Florida is the place to go!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753
    felix said:

    With unlimited mobile data [ we've had that for several years in my obscure part of Spain at €30 a month] why on earth does anyone bother with free wifi anymore?
    Because quite a lot of hotels are in places with bad or no signal, and often the really old grand hotels have thick walls and long corridors so even if the signal is good, you can't get it in the bedroom

    So you need the wifi. And they know this. And they know you fancy a *quick* visit to Xhamster or Alohatube, so they charge for that wifi, because that quick visit will turn into 4 hours
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703

    It was actually rather good.
    I have no doubt. 1996 Wanchai wasn't the first destination for Stingers, or hotels, though. Although I see "on my own tab" which explains it.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Leon said:

    Most of my best meals have been at non-Michelin places

    Random top ten (I could choose eighty more)


    Eating at Marco Pierre White's very first place, in south London (forget where) - before he had a star, wow

    A crab and asparagus dish in a restaurant made from a garage outside Chiang Mai, Thailand

    A beef massaman curry on a beach in Ko Tao, also Thailand

    Eating at the first Barrafina off the Strand

    Osyters and foie gras and gingerbread in some brilliant old school brasserie in Nantes, France

    Dinner by Heston (that has a star or two)

    A steak at G W Bush's favourite steak restaurant in Austin Texas

    Another steak at Cabana Las Lilas in Buenos Aires

    Tiny gnocchi in a private restaurant on a private vineyard on the island of Pantelleria, Italy

    Some sardines, recently, in a scruffy cafe above a fish market in Sagres, Portugal



    How much of this is about company, location, mood, weather, post-coital bliss - rather than food? At least half of it





    I am not sure where to even begin with best food, overall.

    For steak, I do. The Tasting Room in Frederick MD does a filet mignon that is the best I have had anywhere, including the best that Buenos Aires or Texas has to offer.

    For Indian food, sorry to say that my best experience has been neither in India nor in the UK, but in downtown Washington DC. Rasika (chef was in London prior to moving to the US). Their palak chaat is the most delicious single Indian dish I have ever eaten. For Northern Indian, Bukhara in New York used to be the place.

    For the most inventive, surprising and incredible meal I've ever eaten, Contra in lower Manhattan wins: https://contra.nyc It has one star.

    For the single ingredient of a dish, Brian Voltaggio at Volt (now sadly gone) outdid everything else I have ever experienced. He does molecular cuisine, which is not my favorite style. But he made 'caviar' out of virgin olive oil. It was the most intensely pleasurable tasting experience of my life to date.

    I realize this is a very US-centric list. I have had many spectacular meals in France, Italy, the UK, and Switzerland. But none of them truly stand out from the rest.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Leon said:

    Thanks for that. It is 4C with flakes of snow here in London. And we have 2-3 more months of this

    It is going to be quite wearing. I am desperate to flee, but everywhere interesting, hot and sunny is either shut or too risky or about to explode with Omicron
    We do have a lot of Covid now - and probably 3/4 weeks more to come but a lot of us oldies are now boosted so best to just enjoy the sunshine and get on with it.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,669
    AlistairM said:

    French anti-vax twins die of Covid: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59867046

    Interesting to read their whole backstory though. I had never heard of them before. The most remarkable thing is how they managed to make themselves look so ridiculous (both physically and otherwise) in their later lives.

    Famous enough to have their faces on French editions of Dr Who books: http://www.tonystrading.co.uk/galleries/tvscifibooks/drwho-france.htm
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,661
    kyf_100 said:

    If the hotel doesn't have free wifi I am going somewhere else. Premier Inn does free wifi. Everywhere does free wifi, and if they don't... well, haven't they heard of tethering?

    Speaking of fine dining, I met up with an ex of mine a few weeks ago, and I asked her what she was doing with her life, career wise, these days.

    She said to me "Kyf, I feed and cook meals for the homeless, unemployed and alcoholics, the people on the very bottom rung of society, the people who can't help themselves."

    I said "Oh, so you work in the charity sector then?"

    She replied "No, I'm a chef at Wetherspoons."
    Travelodge only gives a few minutes of free wifi. However, that is plenty of time to open the last 500 PB comments to read at your leisure, every story on the BBC and Sky News websites you want to read and update your email inbox.

    Too many of my work trips have involved stays in a Travelodge.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,817
    Bloody hell Cineworld are thieves, my dad wants to see Spider-Man so asked me to book tickets for his local cinema to go tomorrow, £20 for 2D IMAX, what a rip off. We're going to the Vue in Finchley near me, £5.99 each for the giant Vue 4k digital projection (around the same size as 2D IMAX). No wonder Cineworld are going out of business.
  • The Viking fish and chip shop on Milton Road, Cambridge. Always does good fish 'n chips; not much queuing, and you don't get wannabe posh w@nkers or politicos in there. ;)

    The waitressing service when we unwrap at home is second to none ...

    I thought everyone in Cambridge is a wannabe posh w@nker or politico. There are drug dealers in the Arbury that many Northerners would think "oooh posher than t' Queen"!
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,072
    GIN1138 said:

    There's no doubt Blair was very successful and an election winning machine who destroyed the Tories for a decade.

    If electoral success is the criteria for a Knighthood then by all means give him one but I trust when the time comes OGH will also support a Knighthood for "Sir" Boris Johnson (London Mayor twice, won the the EU referendum for LEAVE and gave the Tories their biggest majority in a general election since 1987) ? ;)

    Yes. On topic. No libdem should support bomber Blair, who lied about need for a war that killed millions of people. It’s as simply put as that.

    I came in from school and watched fireworks called shock and awe, and all I could think was people under that war just wanting to do honest days work, put food on table for their kids, enjoy their lives and their holidays and birthdays. And the Blair government and Americans were so smug about what they were doing I have never felt so angry. I charged upstairs and slammed bedroom door. It’s amazing what you clearly remember.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    Unless we vaccinate the planet - collectively - then we aren't immune from the next mutation.

    That's another covid myth apparently: Myth #1,765 in a regular series...

    Prof Francois Balloux
    @BallouxFrancois

    We should share Covid vaccines with the world, because it is the right thing to do, but not because it will limit of emergence of 'variants' - vaccines don't generate variants but they don't preclude their emergence either - it's all a bit unclear and complicated.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    malcolmg said:

    5 would have been sufficient
    Touche!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    TOPPING said:

    I have no doubt. 1996 Wanchai wasn't the first destination for Stingers, or hotels, though. Although I see "on my own tab" which explains it.
    It was recommended to me by someone who spent quite a bit of time in HK - one of those hidden gems. The bar tender was real expert, the place was small, but very modern and ran like a Swiss watch.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793
    Nigelb said:

    Greatest of all the tw@ts ?
    I'm a fan but on this, yes, sadly I think that's fair.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    felix said:

    Sounds like early nouvelle cuisine - de rigeur for us supermodels back in the day :smiley:
    I am so glad the nouvelle cuisine fad passed, but that its best techniques, combinations and flavours survived.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,541
    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell Cineworld are thieves, my dad wants to see Spider-Man so asked me to book tickets for his local cinema to go tomorrow, £20 for 2D IMAX, what a rip off. We're going to the Vue in Finchley near me, £5.99 each for the giant Vue 4k digital projection (around the same size as 2D IMAX). No wonder Cineworld are going out of business.

    The Vue are generally good value - lots of opportunities to go for lower prices earlier in the day. And BAFTA members get in free....
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703

    It was recommended to me by someone who spent quite a bit of time in HK - one of those hidden gems. The bar tender was real expert, the place was small, but very modern and ran like a Swiss watch.
    Sounds like a place in North London that I have heard about.
  • MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594


    That's another covid myth apparently: Myth #1,765 in a regular series...

    Prof Francois Balloux
    @BallouxFrancois

    We should share Covid vaccines with the world, because it is the right thing to do, but not because it will limit of emergence of 'variants' - vaccines don't generate variants but they don't preclude their emergence either - it's all a bit unclear and complicated.
    Has that 'expert' been certified by the Political Betting Expert Licensing Committee? because if not, we can safely disregard their views, whatever the facts.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753

    Florida is the place to go!
    I have considered Florida, but the weather is pleasant rather than great in January

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/4164143


    And also I don't find Florida that interesting. Tho I do like the bit around Sanibel island

    I keep looking at Sri Lanka, that IS tempting, but will it explode with Omicron?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,222


    That's another covid myth apparently: Myth #1,765 in a regular series...

    Prof Francois Balloux
    @BallouxFrancois

    We should share Covid vaccines with the world, because it is the right thing to do, but not because it will limit of emergence of 'variants' - vaccines don't generate variants but they don't preclude their emergence either - it's all a bit unclear and complicated.
    Not just people either, Covid is a general mammalian phenomenon
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,619
    edited January 2022
    kyf_100 said:

    How do you know when someone is a vegan? They tell you.

    But it has buggered up my plans somewhat as I was thinking about booking hawksmoor, until I learned of my friend's dietary requirements. Now I'm not sure what to pick - I don't know Manchester very well.
    Perhaps a vegetarian Indian or Asian place?

    In London my goto used to be Rasa on Charlotte Street in that line, but that was some years ago.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    TOPPING said:

    There is a question or was as to whether roaming will continue post-Brexit, wasn't there?
    There was and I think it's ended to the UK but open to us here in Spain andfor the rest of Europe so personally it doesn't affect me. My only irritant is telephone calls to my one UK bank and public offices in the UK like Pensions, etc. None of these are internet based - ridiculous in the modern age - and are the only calls now that cost me money when occasionally they have to be made. Does anyone know why the UK Pension Agency has virtually no online service worthy of the name - while all the private ones do? Even the TPA has an excellent web-site but not the actual OAP one. A total puzzle.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,955
    edited January 2022

    Travelodge only gives a few minutes of free wifi. However, that is plenty of time to open the last 500 PB comments to read at your leisure, every story on the BBC and Sky News websites you want to read and update your email inbox.

    Too many of my work trips have involved stays in a Travelodge.
    I honestly quite like the premier inn hubs, for an overnight stay. They're a bit cramped for a longer stay. But still, free wifi, free coffee, very friendly and polite staff. And most importantly the mattresses are good.

    I can't begin to tell you how many hotels I've stayed in at between two and four times the cost of a lowly premier inn hub, where the mattress is basically some spring loaded thing that has been shagged out by every call girl and prozzer in the hotel for two decades, and now you get to sleep on it.

    At this point, I literally just want a tripadvisor category specifically for mattresses, to soothe my aging, middle aged back.
  • Leon said:

    The advent of internet porn was a real downer for hotel owners. They used to make squillions charging customers for naughty movies, now they don't. This is one reason they charge for wifi use, so they can at least get q few quid out of your wanking

    interesting gossip: it is - or was - a well known oddity that solo female guests watch just as much porn as solo men, perhaps more
    The company I used to work for back in the early 90s had its main European training centre in Holland. the local hotels all had hard porn available for a small fee as part of the list of movies you could pay for, when such moves could only be accessed illicitly in the UK. I entertained many customers there and I don't remember any that didn't partake of the chargeable movie channel!
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976


    That's another covid myth apparently: Myth #1,765 in a regular series...

    Prof Francois Balloux
    @BallouxFrancois

    We should share Covid vaccines with the world, because it is the right thing to do, but not because it will limit of emergence of 'variants' - vaccines don't generate variants but they don't preclude their emergence either - it's all a bit unclear and complicated.
    Just as well no-one thought of this before Omicron emerged.

    Wait. Are we sure variant prevention is a good idea? I mean, on the other hand there's Delta, but...
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    It's the staff absences which are going to kill the NHS this time around

    https://twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1478379407882559493

    Shaun Lintern
    @ShaunLintern
    NEW:
    @UHP_NHS
    has today declared a critical incident. Message to staff warns of 15 ambulances waiting and no space in A&E and 475 Covid staff absences. Full details:
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,396
    TOPPING said:

    Well no but could have been made a peer.
    Reportedly offered and declined. All that tedious "disclosure of financial interests" and so on.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,753
    edited January 2022
    TimT said:

    I am not sure where to even begin with best food, overall.

    For steak, I do. The Tasting Room in Frederick MD does a filet mignon that is the best I have had anywhere, including the best that Buenos Aires or Texas has to offer.

    For Indian food, sorry to say that my best experience has been neither in India nor in the UK, but in downtown Washington DC. Rasika (chef was in London prior to moving to the US). Their palak chaat is the most delicious single Indian dish I have ever eaten. For Northern Indian, Bukhara in New York used to be the place.

    For the most inventive, surprising and incredible meal I've ever eaten, Contra in lower Manhattan wins: https://contra.nyc It has one star.

    For the single ingredient of a dish, Brian Voltaggio at Volt (now sadly gone) outdid everything else I have ever experienced. He does molecular cuisine, which is not my favorite style. But he made 'caviar' out of virgin olive oil. It was the most intensely pleasurable tasting experience of my life to date.

    I realize this is a very US-centric list. I have had many spectacular meals in France, Italy, the UK, and Switzerland. But none of them truly stand out from the rest.
    I must be incredibly unlucky because 98% of my eating experiences in America are mediocre or worse. And I have been there a LOT, and all over, and in all kinds of joints, from top NYC starred places to innovative California pop-ups to famous BBQ shacks in the Deep South

    The one exception is Louisiana especially New Orleans. The food there is consistently great, and they don't do the off-puttingly enormous servings you commonly get in the USA. How can such a rich country still believe "great food = tons of food"?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    TOPPING said:

    Sounds like a place in North London that I have heard about.
    No, none of the SeanTs would have liked it - no... er.... professionals in the place.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,072
    kinabalu said:

    Yes, but I can't contribute because I hardly ever go to restaurants. Feel excluded. Let's get back to perceptive & densely argued scenarios for the next general election complete with estimated probabilities and steers to standout bets.
    Okay I hear your cry of pain.

    Back to proper news agenda now. 24hrs news full of NHS falling into crisis. Last couple of weeks of Boris now before he is vonked! Bye bye Boris. 😘
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