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2nd best - like Man U so far tonight.0
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22 is brilliant.0
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17. I think Hopi makes quite a bit of sense
It is not that it is wrong to oppose Western action. The starting tenets – a humility in foreign affairs, an acceptance of the importance of partnership, a preference for peaceful means over military, a recognition of the limits of Western influence are all valuable qualities.
The problem is that it is wrong to assume Western action is the only significant wellspring of negative consequences.....Intervention is not always right. But because others will still intervene whatever the UK and the US does, dogmatic non-intervention contains its own contradiction
Although like most I waver on when intervention might be acceptable, and when pressed would probably stick my head in the sand whether it is the right option or not.
24. Cheery.
9. I'm surprised Cameron has the guts to kick anybody anywhere. As boring as the dispute that is the excuse on this action against Bercow may seem, he may even be right. For once.0 -
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19. On a night when Liverpool were thrashed along with Darling, that one did cheer me up last night.
6. Labour do seem to be going from strength to strength. I don't think they deserve it, I'm not convinced that Labour have managed to get their messages across while the Tories went on holiday, but something has to explain their increased confidence and improved position.0 -
You'd think the firm would have sense to keep quiet.DavidL said:0 -
Out canvassing on the mean streets of Dundee again tonight for BT. Actually they weren't that mean, semi detached housing with small neat gardens and reasonable quality cars on the driveway including the odd Beemer.
But they were strongly Yes. Again. I would say at least 65%. Frankly No should be doing better in areas like this, people who actually have something to lose in the brave new Scotland.
No one was very interested in the debate last night.
I am getting so concerned about this that I am actually going to listen (and support, sob) to Gordon Brown tomorrow. Without any rotten eggs. It is getting that serious.0 -
FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
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@JossiasJessop
"I'd hope everyone who is horrified and stunned by today's report would back the police investigating all claims of abuse, whether it points to Muslims, the Catholic Church / CofE and associated organisations, the BBC, politicians, celebrities, or any one of us."
Agreed but the big lesson from today's report is that one can't rely on the police to investigate anything unless it suits them, which is a bit of a bugger.0 -
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)0 -
Actually just noticed that Link 12 is what I am going to. God help me (if he exists, which I doubt).DavidL said:Out canvassing on the mean streets of Dundee again tonight for BT. Actually they weren't that mean, semi detached housing with small neat gardens and reasonable quality cars on the driveway including the odd Beemer.
But they were strongly Yes. Again. I would say at least 65%. Frankly No should be doing better in areas like this, people who actually have something to lose in the brave new Scotland.
No one was very interested in the debate last night.
I am getting so concerned about this that I am actually going to listen (and support, sob) to Gordon Brown tomorrow. Without any rotten eggs. It is getting that serious.
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TSE, Love the apology link.
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''Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.''
This is not a failure of any community in Britain. It is the massive and systemic failure of the authorities to apply the laws of Britain.
We have to ask ourselves why the laws of Britain were ignored over many years and in so many, many cases by Rotherham and others.
The answer, I'm afraid, is clear and obvious and highlighted by the report.0 -
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At least it wasnt one of the more interesting postersnigel4england said:
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)0 -
Well I for one will say the site will be less interesting without you.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)0 -
Some great links there.
Thanks TSE0 -
sorry Islam who are the interesting posters ? If you can't face having your beliefs challenged maybe they;re a bit flaky.isam said:
At least it wasnt one of the more interesting postersnigel4england said:
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)0 -
24. The pact was ultimately unsuccessful in its aims.
You're not kidding. Another pie in the sky moment by naive liberals.0 -
Between another disappointing night of canvassing and another United performance which looks like they first met in the tunnel I am getting a bit depressed to be honest.
Hope England do better at the cricket tomorrow.0 -
We need to lower the temperature on PB, passions are running high today and some of the comments today have been unacceptable.
We've discussed the events in Rotherham enough today.
So can we discuss something else tonight.0 -
I see reports that Farage hopes to be UKIP's first MP, but surely that is not correct. He hopes to be one of their MPs, and whether Thanet declares his seat first or not would not matter to him.
The Tories already working on their strategy for the seat, the expected Vote Farage get Ed
The real concern down there is a Labour win. Labour have always been the second party in South Thanet and I think that's true today," he said.
"So no more concerned about Nigel than we would be about any other UKIP candidate standing there.
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How about Scotland for a change ? Where's malcolm ?PBModerator said:We need to lower the temperature on PB, passions are running high today and some of the comments today have been unacceptable.
We've discussed the events in Rotherham enough today.
So can we discuss something else tonight.0 -
Yesterday one of Miliband's Shadow Team claims more laws are needed to protect women.
Today the newly appointed Shadow Minister and her leader both appear to be silent as it becomes clearer that existing laws are not enforced.0 -
Islam?Alanbrooke said:
sorry Islam who are the interesting posters ? If you can't face having your beliefs challenged maybe they;re a bit flaky.isam said:
At least it wasnt one of the more interesting postersnigel4england said:
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
Having your beliefs challenged is one thing, but Woger just used to call me a white supremacist racist everytime he opened his boring mouth...
he wasn't averse to a bit of prejudice himself... pesky Romanian beggars in Paris anyone?
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this calls for a judge led independent inquirydr_spyn said:Yesterday one of Miliband's Shadow Team claims more laws are needed to protect women.
Today both the newly appointed Shadow Minister and her leader both appear to be silent as it becomes clearer that existing laws are not enforced.0 -
So is anyone on the 8/1 odds on MK Dons to beat Utd tonight? 2-0 now...0
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Chin up, and good luck, though I take your point about Gordon (!)DavidL said:Out canvassing on the mean streets of Dundee again tonight for BT. Actually they weren't that mean, semi detached housing with small neat gardens and reasonable quality cars on the driveway including the odd Beemer.
But they were strongly Yes. Again. I would say at least 65%. Frankly No should be doing better in areas like this, people who actually have something to lose in the brave new Scotland.
No one was very interested in the debate last night.
I am getting so concerned about this that I am actually going to listen (and support, sob) to Gordon Brown tomorrow. Without any rotten eggs. It is getting that serious.0 -
Backed MK Dons at 10.5, sadly it was only for a fiverQuincel said:So is anyone on the 8/1 odds on MK Dons to beat Utd tonight? 2-0 now...
The Screaming Eagles @TSEofPB 11s
Thank you MK Dons and ManU
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Roger, I was away having dinner and missed the exchange. But this is a community of Scotnats, Unionists, Lab, Lib, Tory, UKIP and None of the above and many other friends to boot! We will all have perspective on these items. The facts of the case in Rotheram, or elsewhere speak for themselves and all I will say is that anyone who ignores such activity, or tries to back away in fear of "Community Cohesion" really misses the point. There really should be a meeting of minds here!0
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3-0! This is blasphemy, this is madness!0
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oh go buy some testicles, I've been called much worse things by much better people.isam said:
Islam?Alanbrooke said:
sorry Islam who are the interesting posters ? If you can't face having your beliefs challenged maybe they;re a bit flaky.isam said:
At least it wasnt one of the more interesting postersnigel4england said:
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
Having your beliefs challenged is one thing, but Woger just used to call me a white supremacist racist everytime he opened his boring mouth
And sometimes they were right !
I mean a bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ? Seriously it's going to change your life ?
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Oh for pity's sake. I am going to bed. Night all.0
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1. If Con/Lab are neck and neck Cameron will try and sit in Number 10 as long as possible. As is his prerogative. However, Boris will be lurking with the theme tune from Jaws playing in the background.
2. Still think UKIP will fail to win seat in 2015 #FPTP
3. At the moment we laugh with Boris, but it's a fine line between laughing with and laughing at...
4. ?
5. With UKIP starting so far behind I think Farage will fail in Thanet.
6. Labour has gone up by around 1-2% this summer, so it has been a success.
7. Ed The Younger is the ultimate EU wonk. He would rather lose the election than risk the UK leaving the EU on his watch, IMO.
8. Will they be able to drink champagne at this years Tory Ball?
9. Cameron and Bercow hate each others guts!
10. "Dirty Money" funds all the parties. However, the public seem to prefer this than the other option of having to fund the parties through taxation.
11. And here was me thinking Scotland was about to sling it's hook...
12. Darling could have been Labour's John Major if he'd had the guts to get rid of Brown in May 2009.
13. Zzzzzzzzz....
14. I'm hoping for a good nights sleep, so think I'll pass on this link, thanks.
15. Labour despise's it's own voters about as much as the Tories despise their's...
16. Sounds grim.
17. Sounds like an coalition of fruitcakes?
18. WWIII here we come.
19. Gnones are truly awful, horrible things!
20. Too many tweets.... However it made me laugh.
21. They have neo-nazi's in Sweden? Who knew!
22. Sorry seems to be the hardest word.
23. WOW!
24. Sounds like a breakfast cereal.
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Ah yes, the old "bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ?" line...Alanbrooke said:
oh go buy some testicles, I've been called much worse things by much better people.isam said:
Islam?Alanbrooke said:
sorry Islam who are the interesting posters ? If you can't face having your beliefs challenged maybe they;re a bit flaky.isam said:
At least it wasnt one of the more interesting postersnigel4england said:
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
Having your beliefs challenged is one thing, but Woger just used to call me a white supremacist racist everytime he opened his boring mouth
And sometimes they were right !
I mean a bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ? Seriously it's going to change your life ?
What a load of nonsense
So its a free for all to abuse each other on here is it? Because we don't know each other and its on the internet?
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Poor Celtic0
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Celtic better hope that Maribor fielded an ineligible player.0
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When the insults get out of hand the moderators intervene and if you can;t accept that every so often people play the man not the ball then you're going to remain disappointed.isam said:
Ah yes, the old "bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ?" line...Alanbrooke said:
oh go buy some testicles, I've been called much worse things by much better people.isam said:
Islam?Alanbrooke said:
sorry Islam who are the interesting posters ? If you can't face having your beliefs challenged maybe they;re a bit flaky.isam said:
At least it wasnt one of the more interesting postersnigel4england said:
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
Having your beliefs challenged is one thing, but Woger just used to call me a white supremacist racist everytime he opened his boring mouth
And sometimes they were right !
I mean a bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ? Seriously it's going to change your life ?
What a load of nonsense
So its a free for all to abuse each other on here is it? Because we don't know each other and its on the internet?
If youwant to make it "interesting" try a better riposte.0 -
Do you, or anyone else know why the team from Glasgow are known as "Sell-tic" but every other team in the world is known as the Kell-tics?Neil said:Celtic better hope that Maribor fielded an ineligible player.
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Oh Bore off!Alanbrooke said:
When the insults get out of hand the moderators intervene and if you can;t accept that every so often people play the man not the ball then you're going to remain disappointed.isam said:
Ah yes, the old "bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ?" line...Alanbrooke said:
oh go buy some testicles, I've been called much worse things by much better people.isam said:
Islam?Alanbrooke said:
sorry Islam who are the interesting posters ? If you can't face having your beliefs challenged maybe they;re a bit flaky.isam said:
At least it wasnt one of the more interesting postersnigel4england said:
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
Having your beliefs challenged is one thing, but Woger just used to call me a white supremacist racist everytime he opened his boring mouth
And sometimes they were right !
I mean a bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ? Seriously it's going to change your life ?
What a load of nonsense
So its a free for all to abuse each other on here is it? Because we don't know each other and its on the internet?
If youwant to make it "interesting" try a better riposte.
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In any case, he's too late, wasn't Bob Spink (briefly) a UKIP MP in 2008? Farage can of course still become the first person elected as a UKIP MP.kle4 said:I see reports that Farage hopes to be UKIP's first MP, but surely that is not correct. He hopes to be one of their MPs, and whether Thanet declares his seat first or not would not matter to him.
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Ya, you;re meant to try and make it funny.isam said:
Oh Bore off!Alanbrooke said:
When the insults get out of hand the moderators intervene and if you can;t accept that every so often people play the man not the ball then you're going to remain disappointed.isam said:
Ah yes, the old "bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ?" line...Alanbrooke said:
oh go buy some testicles, I've been called much worse things by much better people.isam said:
Islam?Alanbrooke said:
sorry Islam who are the interesting posters ? If you can't face having your beliefs challenged maybe they;re a bit flaky.isam said:
At least it wasnt one of the more interesting postersnigel4england said:
Another one who cannot face reality.Roger said:FPT. Moderator
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
Having your beliefs challenged is one thing, but Woger just used to call me a white supremacist racist everytime he opened his boring mouth
And sometimes they were right !
I mean a bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ? Seriously it's going to change your life ?
What a load of nonsense
So its a free for all to abuse each other on here is it? Because we don't know each other and its on the internet?
If youwant to make it "interesting" try a better riposte.0 -
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4-0 and MK could have had several more. Even a third string team should have done better.0
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Sporting Index still has Man U scoring more points and thus above Liverpool in the PL this season?TheScreamingEagles said:4 nil.
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Don't you see how you're allowing yourself to be played by the Rogers and tims of this world? Any time something horrible happens that truly indicts the left-wing world view, they start abusing others until the atmosphere is so bad that we're not allowed to discuss the something horrible any more. They thus successfully stifle the debate.PBModerator said:We need to lower the temperature on PB, passions are running high today and some of the comments today have been unacceptable.
We've discussed the events in Rotherham enough today.
So can we discuss something else tonight.
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For a slight change of tone (and it's Nighthawks, so it can hardly be off-topic):
Today's news that Boris is standing at GE2015 somewhere in the south is great news for me, as it was reported that he was looking at South Cambridgeshire, where I live. Having just got rid of Lansley (yay!), I want a Conservative candidate I could consider voting for.
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I like very much SO's contributions; always a considered poster, despite the fact that he refused to acknowledge that all left wing people think in exactly the same way and can be considered as one.
But to leave an internet chatroom for whatever reason tells me a couple of things:
1. perspective has been lost; it's hardly the Phillippics here; no one cares what we write.
2. sadly no one will pause to let it affect them profoundly.
3. to leave now, after interacting with people with whom you have previously engaged in robust debate has an element of flounce/losing the argument about it.
4. Roger I can live without.
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"Everything's up to date in Kansas City,Charles said:
Count yourself lucky!Roger said:crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
I'm in Kansas...*
(* technically Kansas City is in Missouri, but it doesn't sound quite as remote somehow)
They've gone about as far as they can go......"0 -
Thanks (and to Tyke too). Sport is a great distraction.TheScreamingEagles said:0
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The basketball team in Boston uses the same, correct, pronunciation.TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you, or anyone else know why the team from Glasgow are known as "Sell-tic" but every other team in the world is known as the Kell-tics?Neil said:Celtic better hope that Maribor fielded an ineligible player.
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Just remember, I tipped and backed Spurs to finish in the top 4 this season, plus, I'm also going to back them to win on Sunday.Scrapheap_as_was said:Thanks (and to Tyke too). Sport is a great distraction.
TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
9: Been reading through the articles, must admit never reading the Torygraph for a long (very) long time, but do the readers actually detest Cameron so much?0
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Betvictor still has Man U as evens not to be top 4 this season. I reckon that's decent value but DYOR.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Sporting Index still has Man U scoring more points and thus above Liverpool in the PL this season?TheScreamingEagles said:4 nil.
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I know it's pushing it too far but is there a market for Man U to be relegated?0
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SO - you cannot leave PB with Spurs TOTL..... it don't come around that that much...
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The ones who read it online and comment about it certainly do. One of my favourite comments was how he is secretly a LD. I've heard that about Clarke a lot, but not as much with Cameron. They detest him. Granted, a lot of those commenter's are UKIPers wh oyou'd expect to hate Cameron.Edin_Rokz said:9: Been reading through the articles, must admit never reading the Torygraph for a long (very) long time, but do the readers actually detest Cameron so much?
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Wikipedia discusses the issue at length https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_Celtic#PronunciationMonikerDiCanio said:
The basketball team in Boston uses the same, correct, pronunciation.TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you, or anyone else know why the team from Glasgow are known as "Sell-tic" but every other team in the world is known as the Kell-tics?Neil said:Celtic better hope that Maribor fielded an ineligible player.
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Still 1000/1 available at various bookies.Speedy said:I know it's pushing it too far but is there a market for Man U to be relegated?
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tim said last year spurs "were on the up" and then it all went tits up immediately... it would be nice to be the 'liverpool' team this year but Sunday will either swiftly pop the small emerging bubble of hope or give it a big inflation...TheScreamingEagles said:
Just remember, I tipped and backed Spurs to finish in the top 4 this season, plus, I'm also going to back them to win on Sunday.Scrapheap_as_was said:Thanks (and to Tyke too). Sport is a great distraction.
TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
LVG - The worst foreign manager since Christian Gross?0
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My tipping record this calendar year has been brilliant.Scrapheap_as_was said:
tim said last year spurs "were on the up" and then it all went tits up immediately... it would be nice to be the 'liverpool' team this year but Sunday will either swiftly pop the small emerging bubble of hope or give it a big inflation...TheScreamingEagles said:
Just remember, I tipped and backed Spurs to finish in the top 4 this season, plus, I'm also going to back them to win on Sunday.Scrapheap_as_was said:Thanks (and to Tyke too). Sport is a great distraction.
TheScreamingEagles said:
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Gnomes are being stolenRobD said:WTF is happening?!
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YG tweet late again?0
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Yougov are dropping the daily poll and replacing it with a daily Indyref poll.bigjohnowls said:YG tweet late again?
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Looks very much like a MU XI which would be rarely fielded in Premiership matches, but what is the point of the League Cup other than to provide some amusement to to non Man U followers.0
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He was indeed; in April 2008 he defected from the Tories to UKIP, becoming that party's first and only MP. In November 2008 he was redesignated as an Independent, on the grounds that UKIP had no 'whip' (How does Caroline Lucas manage?)JohnLilburne said:
In any case, he's too late, wasn't Bob Spink (briefly) a UKIP MP in 2008? Farage can of course still become the first person elected as a UKIP MP.kle4 said:I see reports that Farage hopes to be UKIP's first MP, but surely that is not correct. He hopes to be one of their MPs, and whether Thanet declares his seat first or not would not matter to him.
At the 2010 General Election in which he stood as an Independent he made it clear he was supporting UKIP and UKIP supported his election in which he gained 27% of the vote.
However, while a "UKIP MP" he found himself at odds with his new-found colleagues over the issue of whether or not to extend the amount of time a suspect can be detained without charge from 28 to 42 days. He voted for the bill, but UKIP opposed it.
I could recall a lot of that but thanks to Wikipedia for the detail
Tory acquaintances in Castle Point initially thought highly of him but very rapidly became disenchanted. There were all sorts of shenanigans; marital and religious as well as political!0 -
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@Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour has four-point lead. CON 33%, LAB 37%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 13%0
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Unfortunately I only followed one and that was a disaster.TheScreamingEagles said:
My tipping record this calendar year has been brilliant.Scrapheap_as_was said:
tim said last year spurs "were on the up" and then it all went tits up immediately... it would be nice to be the 'liverpool' team this year but Sunday will either swiftly pop the small emerging bubble of hope or give it a big inflation...TheScreamingEagles said:
Just remember, I tipped and backed Spurs to finish in the top 4 this season, plus, I'm also going to back them to win on Sunday.Scrapheap_as_was said:Thanks (and to Tyke too). Sport is a great distraction.
TheScreamingEagles said:
Draw at Old Trafford Test.
Although I dont hold you responsible as i am a fully grown adult (i think) and promise not to mention it ever again
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I hope SO will be back. He is a thoughtful poster.
On a separate note: it is 26 August and I'm sitting in my living room in front of a fire nursing my first sore throat of the season.0 -
Not any more, William Hill has just cut the odds for Man U to be relegated to 250/1, though their is still Ladbrokes left.Quincel said:
Still 1000/1 available at various bookies.Speedy said:I know it's pushing it too far but is there a market for Man U to be relegated?
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I never expected India to be that rubbish. The weather on days 4 and 5 was shite.bigjohnowls said:
Unfortunately I only followed one and that was a disaster.TheScreamingEagles said:
My tipping record this calendar year has been brilliant.Scrapheap_as_was said:
tim said last year spurs "were on the up" and then it all went tits up immediately... it would be nice to be the 'liverpool' team this year but Sunday will either swiftly pop the small emerging bubble of hope or give it a big inflation...TheScreamingEagles said:
Just remember, I tipped and backed Spurs to finish in the top 4 this season, plus, I'm also going to back them to win on Sunday.Scrapheap_as_was said:Thanks (and to Tyke too). Sport is a great distraction.
TheScreamingEagles said:
Draw at Old Trafford Test.
Although I dont hold you responsible as i am a fully grown adult (i think) and promise not to mention it ever again
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Tonights YG LAB 347 CON 259 LD 18 (UKPR)
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We've missed you! How'd the op go?bigjohnowls said:Tonights YG LAB 347 CON 259 LD 18 (UKPR)
EICIPM
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Man U are going down the tube again.RobD said:
They just got crushed by Milton Keynes Dons 4-0.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/28871236
And I'm thinking the unthinkable (are Man U going to be relegated?).0 -
As a great philosopher once asked "why?"... I thought Man U was supposed to be good. And the MK Dons... not.Speedy said:
Man U are going down the tube again.RobD said:
They just got crushed by Milton Keynes Dons 4-0.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/288712360 -
No my life is over!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yougov are dropping the daily poll and replacing it with a daily Indyref poll.bigjohnowls said:YG tweet late again?
when?
why?
for how many days?
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I was joking.bigjohnowls said:
No my life is over!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yougov are dropping the daily poll and replacing it with a daily Indyref poll.bigjohnowls said:YG tweet late again?
when?
why?
for how many days?0 -
I suspect not much longer after Sep 18...bigjohnowls said:
No my life is over!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yougov are dropping the daily poll and replacing it with a daily Indyref poll.bigjohnowls said:YG tweet late again?
when?
why?
for how many days?0 -
#9 - were can we form a queue ?0
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RobD said:
As a great philosopher once asked "why?"... I thought Man U was supposed to be good. And the MK Dons... not.Speedy said:
Man U are going down the tube again.RobD said:
They just got crushed by Milton Keynes Dons 4-0.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/28871236
The BBC puts it like this:
"If that is the attitude he (Louis van Gaal) came into the game with, that is the performance he deserved. If I was the manager I would be waiting to get at the players, not signing autographs. That is exactly why you get the performance he did."0 -
I've never heard of the MK Dons until now.0
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Well, to answer the person who wanted more from not Rotherham but the true North*: the No campaign's effort to get out to the female voter, much discussed on Twitter under #patronisingBTwoman: [remove the space in https, have forgotten how to post youtubes here without upsetting the Mods]
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLAewTVmkAU&feature=youtu.be
* used ironically, though I still think of the Balmoral in Edinburgh as the North British Hotel ...0 -
Bloody hell, TSE.0
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PhewTheScreamingEagles said:
I was joking.bigjohnowls said:
No my life is over!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yougov are dropping the daily poll and replacing it with a daily Indyref poll.bigjohnowls said:YG tweet late again?
when?
why?
for how many days?
Unslits wrists0 -
Yeah, I saw that photo on the link you sent me. He looked pretty glum so I thought it was after the game, although after that kind of drubbing you'd want to run straight for the changing rooms.Speedy said:RobD said:
As a great philosopher once asked "why?"... I thought Man U was supposed to be good. And the MK Dons... not.Speedy said:
Man U are going down the tube again.RobD said:
They just got crushed by Milton Keynes Dons 4-0.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/28871236
The BBC puts it like this:
"If that is the attitude he (Louis van Gaal) came into the game with, that is the performance he deserved. If I was the manager I would be waiting to get at the players, not signing autographs. That is exactly why you get the performance he did."0 -
Boo!TheScreamingEagles said:
I was joking.bigjohnowls said:
No my life is over!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yougov are dropping the daily poll and replacing it with a daily Indyref poll.bigjohnowls said:YG tweet late again?
when?
why?
for how many days?
We could have had a daily thread on them!
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The best odds currently available on a Spurs top 4 finish is 3/1 with Spreadex. My guess is that they'll finish either 4th or 5th, so this looks like fair value.TheScreamingEagles said:
Just remember, I tipped and backed Spurs to finish in the top 4 this season, plus, I'm also going to back them to win on Sunday.Scrapheap_as_was said:Thanks (and to Tyke too). Sport is a great distraction.
TheScreamingEagles said:
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I did suggest it to Peter Kellner and YouGov, they didn't listen to me.Neil said:
Boo!TheScreamingEagles said:
I was joking.bigjohnowls said:
No my life is over!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yougov are dropping the daily poll and replacing it with a daily Indyref poll.bigjohnowls said:YG tweet late again?
when?
why?
for how many days?
We could have had a daily thread on them!0
