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UKIP leader Nigel Farage has been selected by party officials to stand in the 2015 general election for South Thanet.
First with Nigel.
It is not that it is wrong to oppose Western action. The starting tenets – a humility in foreign affairs, an acceptance of the importance of partnership, a preference for peaceful means over military, a recognition of the limits of Western influence are all valuable qualities.
The problem is that it is wrong to assume Western action is the only significant wellspring of negative consequences.....Intervention is not always right. But because others will still intervene whatever the UK and the US does, dogmatic non-intervention contains its own contradiction
Although like most I waver on when intervention might be acceptable, and when pressed would probably stick my head in the sand whether it is the right option or not.
24. Cheery.
9. I'm surprised Cameron has the guts to kick anybody anywhere. As boring as the dispute that is the excuse on this action against Bercow may seem, he may even be right. For once.
6. Labour do seem to be going from strength to strength. I don't think they deserve it, I'm not convinced that Labour have managed to get their messages across while the Tories went on holiday, but something has to explain their increased confidence and improved position.
But they were strongly Yes. Again. I would say at least 65%. Frankly No should be doing better in areas like this, people who actually have something to lose in the brave new Scotland.
No one was very interested in the debate last night.
I am getting so concerned about this that I am actually going to listen (and support, sob) to Gordon Brown tomorrow. Without any rotten eggs. It is getting that serious.
"Roger, your comment about Socrates was not acceptable, no more future repeats of this"
Ponder this. Whenever there is a sexual outrage involving an ethnic minority we have screeds of indignation from Socrates and others and the thoughts of Enoch from Isam.
Most of the interesting posters just slip away and leave this prurient (borderline) racism to the usual suspects.
Being dark or Asian or Black or Irish doesn't make you a rapist and those trying to make a connection in order to cash in on their prejudices just leave me cold.
So like Southam Observer I'll also take my leave and just crawl back under my French rock (copyright Richard Tyndall)
@JossiasJessop
"I'd hope everyone who is horrified and stunned by today's report would back the police investigating all claims of abuse, whether it points to Muslims, the Catholic Church / CofE and associated organisations, the BBC, politicians, celebrities, or any one of us."
Agreed but the big lesson from today's report is that one can't rely on the police to investigate anything unless it suits them, which is a bit of a bugger.
Superb.
This is not a failure of any community in Britain. It is the massive and systemic failure of the authorities to apply the laws of Britain.
We have to ask ourselves why the laws of Britain were ignored over many years and in so many, many cases by Rotherham and others.
The answer, I'm afraid, is clear and obvious and highlighted by the report.
21 and 22 are brilliant, in different ways.
Thanks TSE
You're not kidding. Another pie in the sky moment by naive liberals.
Hope England do better at the cricket tomorrow.
We've discussed the events in Rotherham enough today.
So can we discuss something else tonight.
The Tories already working on their strategy for the seat, the expected Vote Farage get Ed
The real concern down there is a Labour win. Labour have always been the second party in South Thanet and I think that's true today," he said.
"So no more concerned about Nigel than we would be about any other UKIP candidate standing there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28937415
Today the newly appointed Shadow Minister and her leader both appear to be silent as it becomes clearer that existing laws are not enforced.
Having your beliefs challenged is one thing, but Woger just used to call me a white supremacist racist everytime he opened his boring mouth...
he wasn't averse to a bit of prejudice himself... pesky Romanian beggars in Paris anyone?
I'm in Kansas...*
(* technically Kansas City is in Missouri, but it doesn't sound quite as remote somehow)
The Screaming Eagles @TSEofPB 11s
Thank you MK Dons and ManU
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv_dIwHIcAE38z9.jpg:large
TSE is probably on it
And sometimes they were right !
I mean a bloke you've never met calls you something rude over the internet ? Seriously it's going to change your life ?
2. Still think UKIP will fail to win seat in 2015 #FPTP
3. At the moment we laugh with Boris, but it's a fine line between laughing with and laughing at...
4. ?
5. With UKIP starting so far behind I think Farage will fail in Thanet.
6. Labour has gone up by around 1-2% this summer, so it has been a success.
7. Ed The Younger is the ultimate EU wonk. He would rather lose the election than risk the UK leaving the EU on his watch, IMO.
8. Will they be able to drink champagne at this years Tory Ball?
9. Cameron and Bercow hate each others guts!
10. "Dirty Money" funds all the parties. However, the public seem to prefer this than the other option of having to fund the parties through taxation.
11. And here was me thinking Scotland was about to sling it's hook...
12. Darling could have been Labour's John Major if he'd had the guts to get rid of Brown in May 2009.
13. Zzzzzzzzz....
14. I'm hoping for a good nights sleep, so think I'll pass on this link, thanks.
15. Labour despise's it's own voters about as much as the Tories despise their's...
16. Sounds grim.
17. Sounds like an coalition of fruitcakes?
18. WWIII here we come.
19. Gnones are truly awful, horrible things!
20. Too many tweets.... However it made me laugh.
21. They have neo-nazi's in Sweden? Who knew!
22. Sorry seems to be the hardest word.
23. WOW!
24. Sounds like a breakfast cereal.
What a load of nonsense
So its a free for all to abuse each other on here is it? Because we don't know each other and its on the internet?
If youwant to make it "interesting" try a better riposte.
POMUWAS
Get Afobe back at the Emirates!
Sorry for your loss.
If I get abusive over the issue the next time a conservative policy looks bad, will you then ban talk of that policy?
Today's news that Boris is standing at GE2015 somewhere in the south is great news for me, as it was reported that he was looking at South Cambridgeshire, where I live. Having just got rid of Lansley (yay!), I want a Conservative candidate I could consider voting for.
Boris was not in that category, at least whilst he remains London mayor.
But to leave an internet chatroom for whatever reason tells me a couple of things:
1. perspective has been lost; it's hardly the Phillippics here; no one cares what we write.
2. sadly no one will pause to let it affect them profoundly.
3. to leave now, after interacting with people with whom you have previously engaged in robust debate has an element of flounce/losing the argument about it.
4. Roger I can live without.
They've gone about as far as they can go......"
One bookie has LVG in to 6-1 as next manager sacked, not tempted!
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation
At the 2010 General Election in which he stood as an Independent he made it clear he was supporting UKIP and UKIP supported his election in which he gained 27% of the vote.
However, while a "UKIP MP" he found himself at odds with his new-found colleagues over the issue of whether or not to extend the amount of time a suspect can be detained without charge from 28 to 42 days. He voted for the bill, but UKIP opposed it.
I could recall a lot of that but thanks to Wikipedia for the detail
Tory acquaintances in Castle Point initially thought highly of him but very rapidly became disenchanted. There were all sorts of shenanigans; marital and religious as well as political!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLIDZspRtlQ
Draw at Old Trafford Test.
Although I dont hold you responsible as i am a fully grown adult (i think) and promise not to mention it ever again
On a separate note: it is 26 August and I'm sitting in my living room in front of a fire nursing my first sore throat of the season.
EICIPM
They just got crushed by Milton Keynes Dons 4-0.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/28871236
And I'm thinking the unthinkable (are Man U going to be relegated?).
when?
why?
for how many days?
The BBC puts it like this:
"If that is the attitude he (Louis van Gaal) came into the game with, that is the performance he deserved. If I was the manager I would be waiting to get at the players, not signing autographs. That is exactly why you get the performance he did."
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLAewTVmkAU&feature=youtu.be
* used ironically, though I still think of the Balmoral in Edinburgh as the North British Hotel ...
Unslits wrists
We could have had a daily thread on them!
DYOR