Grrrr. Been 'gubbed' by PaddyPower as I was winning too much money from them it seems.
It really pisses me off how much the bookies advertise on TV saying catchphrases like "bet responsibly" but anyone who does bet responsibly and wins their bets is gubbed and anyone who is a problem gambler losing lots is encouraged to bet even more.
I get gubbed by bet365 who live up to their nickname of Bet£3.65
Where as I hear if you speak Chinese and appear to be based in the Far East they will happily take £365k bets....
I remember when the stories of the footballers placing thousands of bets were doing the rounds. How on earth did they get that many bets on !?! was the first question I asked. Bookies must love footballers accounts.
Oh they love the suckers. A better question is how does Tony Bloom still get billions of quids of bets on...i reckon the operation on placing the bets must be as complicated as the models he uses to predict the games.
OK I’m gonna narrow it down massively. Ten best films is insane, like saying “ten best books” or ten best “places”
Ten best British films made with a predominantly British cast in Britain with a British theme and location
Withnail and I WickerMan Monty Python Holy Grail Oliver! Shaun of the Dead Trainspotting Four Weddings Kes Human Traffic A Matter of Life and Death
The Railway Children Gregory's Girl Trainspotting My Beautiful Launderette Educating Rita* Rebecca The 39 Steps Atonement Cathy Come Home In the Name of the Father
*filmed in Dublin but set in the UK
Pedant: Cathy Come Home was a television play.
I'd add to the British list:- Chariots of Fire Angels One Five (actually a lot of British war films are probably now dismissed as hack propaganda jobs but are often imo a lot better than that) American Werewolf in London Python's Meaning of Life (or is that cheating as it is arguably a string of sketches?)
Not sure about The King's Speech but there were some heartwarming stories of it helping stammerers. Likewise Reach for the Sky with amputees.
OK I’m gonna narrow it down massively. Ten best films is insane, like saying “ten best books” or ten best “places”
Ten best British films made with a predominantly British cast in Britain with a British theme and location
Withnail and I WickerMan Monty Python Holy Grail Oliver! Shaun of the Dead Trainspotting Four Weddings Kes Human Traffic A Matter of Life and Death
War Requiem Kes Life of Brian Caravaggio In Which They Serve Dambusters L&D of Colonel Blimp Brief Encounter Trainspotting Four Lions
Cool. Good to see Jarman cited. One of the greats of British Cinema, who launched the careers of Sandy Powell, Nigel Terry and Tilda Swindon among others. Last of England is a measure of his genius, and though almost totally unknown, The Angelic Conversation is a beautiful film.
I like films Steve Coogan is in as there is always a bit of Alan Partridge in his characters but 24 hour Party People and the Look of Love are his best.
BTW Steve Coogan does the best Neil Kinnock impression
OK I’m gonna narrow it down massively. Ten best films is insane, like saying “ten best books” or ten best “places”
Ten best British films made with a predominantly British cast in Britain with a British theme and location
Withnail and I WickerMan Monty Python Holy Grail Oliver! Shaun of the Dead Trainspotting Four Weddings Kes Human Traffic A Matter of Life and Death
The Railway Children Gregory's Girl Trainspotting My Beautiful Launderette Educating Rita* Rebecca The 39 Steps Atonement Cathy Come Home In the Name of the Father
*filmed in Dublin but set in the UK
Pedant: Cathy Come Home was a television play.
I'd add to the British list:- Chariots of Fire Angels One Five (actually a lot of British war films are probably now dismissed as hack propaganda jobs but are often imo a lot better than that) American Werewolf in London Python's Meaning of Life (or is that cheating as it is arguably a string of sketches?)
Not sure about The King's Speech but there were some heartwarming stories of it helping stammerers. Likewise Reach for the Sky with amputees.
I think for its brutal honesty Filth deserves a mention
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
Goodbye Pork Pie? In the best traditions of an American road movie.
I like films Steve Coogan is in as there is always a bit of Alan Partridge in his characters but 24 hour Party People and the Look of Love are his best.
BTW Steve Coogan does the best Neil Kinnock impression
That is an astoundingly good impression. Phenomenal
By many accounts Coogan is an arse (like his persona in the various TRIPS) but my god, he is talented
I suspect Coogan personifies everything you detest about middle class woke liberal Labour luvvies.
He is properly left wing. He was just about the only celeb that stuck by Jezza to the very end. There's a bit in series 2 of The Trip where he goes off on a rant about big pharma. Made me wonder if he has got the vaccine.
Is there any genuine chance, given the great number of testimonies from doctors that most omicron cases are mild/asymptomatic, that omicron is indeed a largely mild variant? I realise such wishful thinking is frowned upon on PB. But should we rule it out?
Hypothesis:
The Omicron variant thorns out to be very transitable, but also very milled, compared to other variants, but still gives a good level of immunity to stop/reduce the risk of catching one of the other variants, and as such works as a free booster to people who have already been vaccinated, and a in involuntary vaccine for those who have not been vaccinated yet.
Evidence: Governments, collectively have so far been bad at every stage of this Pandemic, so that the only way they could maintain that track record would be to stop international travel and slow down the speared of the variant that's going to end the whole thing.
This may be both too cynical and too optimistic at the same time, but who knows!!!!!!!!
Intriguing suggestion that Omicron may be a zoonotic spillover. In other words, an animal caught original Covid off humans, it then circulated in the animal population for a year and a half, before re-infecting humans in mutated form. Has happened before (remember the Danish mink variant).
Intriguing suggestion that Omicron may be a zoonotic spillover. In other words, an animal caught original Covid off humans, it then circulated in the animal population for a year and a half, before re-infecting humans in mutated form. Has happened before (remember the Danish mink variant).
OK I’m gonna narrow it down massively. Ten best films is insane, like saying “ten best books” or ten best “places”
Ten best British films made with a predominantly British cast in Britain with a British theme and location
Withnail and I WickerMan Monty Python Holy Grail Oliver! Shaun of the Dead Trainspotting Four Weddings Kes Human Traffic A Matter of Life and Death
War Requiem Kes Life of Brian Caravaggio In Which They Serve Dambusters L&D of Colonel Blimp Brief Encounter Trainspotting Four Lions
Cool. Good to see Jarman cited. One of the greats of British Cinema, who launched the careers of Sandy Powell, Nigel Terry and Tilda Swindon among others. Last of England is a measure of his genius, and though almost totally unknown, The Angelic Conversation is a beautiful film.
I of course forgot Terence Davies who could fill the top ten on his own.
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
Can’t believe no one has Brazil in their British film list. I’d have it near the top.
Yes indeed. An artistic triumph, but what it's warning about, in terms of the dangers of a slide into authoritarianism, is also still very relevant, both at home and abroad.
Is there any genuine chance, given the great number of testimonies from doctors that most omicron cases are mild/asymptomatic, that omicron is indeed a largely mild variant? I realise such wishful thinking is frowned upon on PB. But should we rule it out?
I do that wishful thinking thing too. And moreover if it is mild/asymptomatic and drives out the dreaded delta, wouldn't it be very welcome?
According to a DHSC answer to Steve Baker MP in July, the IFR of Delta is ~0.1%. (aka flu.) Why it deserved any attention after summer 2021 is beyond me.
It'll be like a common cold in the foreseeable future. Corona and flu viruses have always mutated to become more infectious and less deadly. It's called natural selection.
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
Nobody else has included, or commented on my inclusion of, Dazed And Confused.
I love the movie and the fact that it introduced me to WAR
I have Dazed and Confused on Blu-Ray, though no player. It is of course one of any number of American coming of age films with added rock and roll. Are there any similar British films? Gregory's Girl at a push. Even the Israelis have Lemon Popsicle, which is American Grafitti in Hebrew with a sad ending.
Re: movies, am nominating "Stagecoach" (1939) directed by John Ford, classic western staring John Wayne and other great actors, and featuring Yakima Canute doing some amazing, ground-breaking stunt work.
Also "UHF" (1989) from the wild mind of Weird Al Yankovic.
I will go with Stagecoach as well. I would also add She Wore a Yellow Ribbon and Fort Apache. In fact most of my favourite films are black and white. The one I watch repeatedly is Top Hat - the dancing of course but also the witty dialogue and the over the top acting from the supporting actors.
Grrrr. Been 'gubbed' by PaddyPower as I was winning too much money from them it seems.
It really pisses me off how much the bookies advertise on TV saying catchphrases like "bet responsibly" but anyone who does bet responsibly and wins their bets is gubbed and anyone who is a problem gambler losing lots is encouraged to bet even more.
I get gubbed by bet365 who live up to their nickname of Bet£3.65
Where as I hear if you speak Chinese and appear to be based in the Far East they will happily take £365k bets....
I remember when the stories of the footballers placing thousands of bets were doing the rounds. How on earth did they get that many bets on !?! was the first question I asked. Bookies must love footballers accounts.
Oh they love the suckers. A better question is how does Tony Bloom still get billions of quids of bets on...i reckon the operation on placing the bets must be as complicated as the models he uses to predict the games.
Shady Far East and Indian markets. Bloom is noteworthy for his black book as much as his algorithms.
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
No love for Lord of the Rings?
Walkabout Picnic at hanging Rock Rabbit Proof Fence
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
No love for Lord of the Rings?
I've always wanted to see Heavenly Creatures. Saw it reviewed on Film 91 or thereabouts. Looked amazing. But never seen it in a video shop or Netflix or anything like that.
I think the only two NZ films I've seen are Whale Rider and Bad Taste. Both good.
I don’t know if I have seen every list, but Spartacus is missing? Nothing by David Lynch?
And what is not to enjoy with multi dimensional, great script, well acted, great photography, The English Patient?
I'm afraid I'm with Elaine Benes on this:
The English Patient is one of the worst movies ever made.
😦 How?
Not enough Radiohead...
The film received 12 nominations at the 69th Academy Awards, winning nine, including Best Picture, Best Director for Minghella, and Best Supporting Actress for Juliette Binoche. It was also the first to receive a Best Editing Oscar for a digitally edited film.
Intriguing suggestion that Omicron may be a zoonotic spillover. In other words, an animal caught original Covid off humans, it then circulated in the animal population for a year and a half, before re-infecting humans in mutated form. Has happened before (remember the Danish mink variant).
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
No love for Lord of the Rings?
Walkabout Picnic at hanging Rock Rabbit Proof Fence
Walkabout also has another fantastic soundtrack to go with the dream sequences - hallucinatory early '70s folk-jazz. Brilliant film.
Intriguing suggestion that Omicron may be a zoonotic spillover. In other words, an animal caught original Covid off humans, it then circulated in the animal population for a year and a half, before re-infecting humans in mutated form. Has happened before (remember the Danish mink variant).
Dogs are known to catch Covid (as are over 100 mammalian species), which means this theory is far from impossible - and is also why totally eradicating Covid is a fools errand.
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
No love for Lord of the Rings?
Walkabout Picnic at hanging Rock Rabbit Proof Fence
Some other great Australiana
Strictly Ballroom Muriels Wedding The Castle Wake in Fright Romper Stomper
A Much better thread than another one all bugs and drugs. 👍🏻
Looking them up lots seem to be British indie and arty movies from before I was born I have never ever heard of. Don’t know what that means about tastes around here.
I don’t know if I have seen every list, but Spartacus is missing? Nothing by David Lynch?
And what is not to enjoy with multi dimensional, great script, well acted, great photography, The English Patient?
I'm afraid I'm with Elaine Benes on this:
The English Patient is one of the worst movies ever made.
😦 How?
How?
Well, I guess the first problem is the premise. The second the plot. The third, the characters who I don't care for at all. And after that I'd also fault the acting and the script.
Some of these could have been forgiven if the movie had been a lot, lot shorter.
Top films for cold winter evenings longing for sunshine and summer to return:
Jean de Florette / Manon des Sources Shirley Valentine Cinema Paradiso Jaws (kind of) Grease Summer Holiday Mr Hulot's Holiday Nuts in May Walkabout Before Sunrise
A Much better thread than another one all bugs and drugs. 👍🏻
Looking them up lots seem to be British indie and arty movies from before I was born I have never ever heard of. Don’t know what that means about tastes around here.
;.)
I'd add Performance from 1970 to that list, and although not British, Nicholas Roeg's next film after that, too, the Man Who Fell To Earth.
I don’t know if I have seen every list, but Spartacus is missing? Nothing by David Lynch?
And what is not to enjoy with multi dimensional, great script, well acted, great photography, The English Patient?
I'm afraid I'm with Elaine Benes on this:
The English Patient is one of the worst movies ever made.
😦 How?
Not enough Radiohead...
The film received 12 nominations at the 69th Academy Awards, winning nine, including Best Picture, Best Director for Minghella, and Best Supporting Actress for Juliette Binoche. It was also the first to receive a Best Editing Oscar for a digitally edited film.
Intriguing suggestion that Omicron may be a zoonotic spillover. In other words, an animal caught original Covid off humans, it then circulated in the animal population for a year and a half, before re-infecting humans in mutated form. Has happened before (remember the Danish mink variant).
None suggested, but there are plenty of different species in sub-saharan Africa that come into contact with humans. Apparently Covid is now common in deer populations in various countries.
Can’t believe no one has Brazil in their British film list. I’d have it near the top.
Yes indeed. An artistic triumph, but what it's warning about, in terms of the dangers of a slide into authoritarianism, is also still very relevant, both at home and abroad.
Any film with Robert De Nero as a rogue heating engineer has to be genius.
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
No love for Lord of the Rings?
Walkabout Picnic at hanging Rock Rabbit Proof Fence
Picnic at Hanging Rock I find deeply confusing. If it were based on a true story I would see the point, but it is entirely made up.
Can’t believe no one has Brazil in their British film list. I’d have it near the top.
Yes indeed. An artistic triumph, but what it's warning about, in terms of the dangers of a slide into authoritarianism, is also still very relevant, both at home and abroad.
Any film with Robert De Nero as a rogue heating engineer has to be genius.
And Michael Palin showing what a very fine straight actor he was.
The way the season has started, it wouldn't surprise me if either Liverpool or Chelsea (or both) smash City's goals scored in a season and goal difference over a season records.
Once Were Warriors Boy The Piano Angel At My Table In My Father’s Den Heavenly Creatures Dark Horse The Breaker-Upperers What We Do In The Shadows Sleeping Dogs
No love for Lord of the Rings?
Walkabout Picnic at hanging Rock Rabbit Proof Fence
Picnic at Hanging Rock I find deeply confusing. If it were based on a true story I would see the point, but it is entirely made up.
The way the season has started, it wouldn't surprise me if either Liverpool or Chelsea (or both) smash City's goals scored in a season and goal difference over a season records.
43 goals in 14 games is a remarkable record for a team in third place!
I think the betting is massively underestimating Liverpool's chances.
1. The scene at the station in The Railway Children - "Daddy, my Daddy!" Impossible not to weep. 2. The first 20 minutes of Up. 3. The scene in the furnace in Tory Story 3 4. The scene in the station cafe in Brief Encounter as the doctor takes his leave - his hand on Celia Johnson's shoulder - as her irritating friend rabbits on.
Now for some European films
Jean de Florette / Manon des Sources Delicatessen The Battle of Algiers Le Chagrin et La Pitie - a documentary about France during WW2 and unmissable. Shoah - hard going but must be seen Au Revoir Les Enfants
Francesco Rosi's Carmen. Also his Illustrious Corpses - on Italian politics and Three Brothers. Cinema Paradiso The Leopard L'Innocente Voyage to Italy - with George Sanders and Ingrid Bergman
And from Japan - Dersu Uzala Throne of Blood - a Japanese Macbeth and the best version I've ever seen.
I like Billy Liar, Far from the Madding Crowd and Don't Look Now.
Some Like it Hot still makes me laugh. As does Dr Strangelove.
Casablanca, The Third Man and To Have and Have Not should be on any list. Also All about Eve and Now Voyager.
The way the season has started, it wouldn't surprise me if either Liverpool or Chelsea (or both) smash City's goals scored in a season and goal difference over a season records.
43 goals in 14 games is a remarkable record for a team in third place!
I think the betting is massively underestimating Liverpool's chances.
Nah, we're going to be utterly buggered when Salah, Mane, and Keita disappear for a month for the Africa Cup of Nations at the end of the month.
Goodison Park has to be one of the emptiest I've ever seen a stadium at full time. It seems most fans have left the ground already. Even Old Trafford wasn't this empty at the final whistle.
1. The scene at the station in The Railway Children - "Daddy, my Daddy!" Impossible not to weep. 2. The first 20 minutes of Up. 3. The scene in the furnace in Tory Story 3 4. The scene in the station cafe in Brief Encounter as the doctor takes his leave - his hand on Celia Johnson's shoulder - as her irritating friend rabbits on.
Now for some European films
Jean de Florette / Manon des Sources Delicatessen The Battle of Algiers Le Chagrin et La Pitie - a documentary about France during WW2 and unmissable. Shoah - hard going but must be seen Au Revoir Les Enfants
Francesco Rosi's Carmen. Also his Illustrious Corpses - on Italian politics and Three Brothers. Cinema Paradiso The Leopard L'Innocente Voyage to Italy - with George Sanders and Ingrid Bergman
And from Japan - Dersu Uzala Throne of Blood - a Japanese Macbeth and the best version I've ever seen.
I like Billy Liar, Far from the Madding Crowd and Don't Look Now.
Some Like it Hot still makes me laugh. As does Dr Strangelove.
Casablanca, The Third Man and To Have and Have Not should be on any list. Also All about Eve and Now Voyager.
More weepy scenes in Jojo Rabbit, when Jojo ties his mum's shoelaces, and of course Bambi.
Can't believe I missed the top 10 film discussion.
Late to the game so I'll save mine for the next time it comes round.
As did I. Let's start it up again.
I don't really have a top ten, but... Spirited Away Casablanca Vertigo Dr Strangelove Yojimbo The Band Wagon Memories of Murder Apocalypse Now All About Eve The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Would be entirely different tomorrow.
Ice Cold in Alex Out Of The Past Lone Star The Third Man Three Colours trilogy (is that cheating?) 2001 12 Angry Men Memento Double Indemnity Pan’s Labyrinth
Having said earlier that Goodfellas is the best film and soundtrack ever, how about favourite scene ever? Travolta and Thurman dancing to You Never Can Tell in Pulp Fiction.
Just because I have sympathy with outlaws who are really quite kind underneath I like the scene at the end of Oliver when Fagin and the Artful Dodger go off into the sunset .
Doesn’t Fagin die?
No I Heart Huckerbees on any list?
Sykes does of course but he is a baddie baddie
That’s not Dickens. It’s some pat Hollywood ending version no better than Die Hard.
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I'd add to the British list:-
Chariots of Fire
Angels One Five (actually a lot of British war films are probably now dismissed as hack propaganda jobs but are often imo a lot better than that)
American Werewolf in London
Python's Meaning of Life (or is that cheating as it is arguably a string of sketches?)
Not sure about The King's Speech but there were some heartwarming stories of it helping stammerers. Likewise Reach for the Sky with amputees.
The English Patient is one of the worst movies ever made.
Brexit fears hold back US-UK trade deal https://on.ft.com/3pmaCuT
I’d have it near the top.
The Omicron variant thorns out to be very transitable, but also very milled, compared to other variants, but still gives a good level of immunity to stop/reduce the risk of catching one of the other variants, and as such works as a free booster to people who have already been vaccinated, and a in involuntary vaccine for those who have not been vaccinated yet.
Evidence: Governments, collectively have so far been bad at every stage of this Pandemic, so that the only way they could maintain that track record would be to stop international travel and slow down the speared of the variant that's going to end the whole thing.
This may be both too cynical and too optimistic at the same time, but who knows!!!!!!!!
Do I get points if this terns out to be correct?
https://twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1465822536629821442
It'll be like a common cold in the foreseeable future. Corona and flu viruses have always mutated to become more infectious and less deadly. It's called natural selection.
2. Not NZ “location” and “theme”
3. No
Picnic at hanging Rock
Rabbit Proof Fence
I think the only two NZ films I've seen are Whale Rider and Bad Taste. Both good.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116209/awards
This saga is like House of Cards, you forget several episodes and entire story arcs, so long and drawn out is the narrative.
Strictly Ballroom
Muriels Wedding
The Castle
Wake in Fright
Romper Stomper
Looking them up lots seem to be British indie and arty movies from before I was born I have never ever heard of. Don’t know what that means about tastes around here.
Well, I guess the first problem is the premise. The second the plot. The third, the characters who I don't care for at all. And after that I'd also fault the acting and the script.
Some of these could have been forgiven if the movie had been a lot, lot shorter.
Jean de Florette / Manon des Sources
Shirley Valentine
Cinema Paradiso
Jaws (kind of)
Grease
Summer Holiday
Mr Hulot's Holiday
Nuts in May
Walkabout
Before Sunrise
I'd add Performance from 1970 to that list, and although not British, Nicholas Roeg's next film after that, too, the Man Who Fell To Earth.
But then again, some people think Turkey Twizzlers are good food. There's no accounting for taste.
What's the best movie to feature a Radiohead song?
I'd probably go with Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet.
And if you want to do TV show, it simply has to be Father Ted.
I seem to have wandered on to the wrong forum.....
May as well give him the golden boot already.
Despite featuring Ronnie Corbett.
So, by my shaky maths, we would be staring down the barrel of a gun of, erm, ≈ 500 cases by xmas day.
Have i missed something?
As far as I know it doesn't cause them any great harm.
(It has occurred to me that we might be able to use them as a source of antibodies.)
The way the season has started, it wouldn't surprise me if either Liverpool or Chelsea (or both) smash City's goals scored in a season and goal difference over a season records.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:William_Ford_Hanging_Rock.jpg
that can be seen in the National Gallery in Melbourne (though not just now, unfortunately).
I think the betting is massively underestimating Liverpool's chances.
1. The scene at the station in The Railway Children - "Daddy, my Daddy!" Impossible not to weep.
2. The first 20 minutes of Up.
3. The scene in the furnace in Tory Story 3
4. The scene in the station cafe in Brief Encounter as the doctor takes his leave - his hand on Celia Johnson's shoulder - as her irritating friend rabbits on.
Now for some European films
Jean de Florette / Manon des Sources
Delicatessen
The Battle of Algiers
Le Chagrin et La Pitie - a documentary about France during WW2 and unmissable.
Shoah - hard going but must be seen
Au Revoir Les Enfants
Francesco Rosi's Carmen. Also his Illustrious Corpses - on Italian politics and Three Brothers.
Cinema Paradiso
The Leopard
L'Innocente
Voyage to Italy - with George Sanders and Ingrid Bergman
And from Japan -
Dersu Uzala
Throne of Blood - a Japanese Macbeth and the best version I've ever seen.
I like Billy Liar, Far from the Madding Crowd and Don't Look Now.
Some Like it Hot still makes me laugh. As does Dr Strangelove.
Casablanca, The Third Man and To Have and Have Not should be on any list. Also All about Eve and Now Voyager.
The first match they miss is Chelsea away.
NEW THREAD
a.k.a. New Thread
Out Of The Past
Lone Star
The Third Man
Three Colours trilogy (is that cheating?)
2001
12 Angry Men
Memento
Double Indemnity
Pan’s Labyrinth
Will be different after I finish my cup of tea!