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  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,670

    UK COvid summary

    Same again

    - Case increases crawling to a stop nationally. Cases falling in the older groups.
    - Hospitalisation continuing to fall - with the interesting segmentation (at least for England) in the 65-84 group doing much of the falls.
    - Deaths still falling

    Is there data for today? There's nothing on the dashboard.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,855

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Memphis Belle? If only for the retrospect on the wartime propaganda.
  • So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Thomas Crown Affair?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486

    UK COvid summary

    Same again

    - Case increases crawling to a stop nationally. Cases falling in the older groups.
    - Hospitalisation continuing to fall - with the interesting segmentation (at least for England) in the 65-84 group doing much of the falls.
    - Deaths still falling

    Where are you getting this from? The dashboard shows yesterday's data.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,853

    UK COvid summary

    Same again

    - Case increases crawling to a stop nationally. Cases falling in the older groups.
    - Hospitalisation continuing to fall - with the interesting segmentation (at least for England) in the 65-84 group doing much of the falls.
    - Deaths still falling

    Don't think the data has updated.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
    edited December 2021

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Ocean's Eleven is better than Ocean's 11.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,325
    MaxPB said:

    UK COvid summary

    Same again

    - Case increases crawling to a stop nationally. Cases falling in the older groups.
    - Hospitalisation continuing to fall - with the interesting segmentation (at least for England) in the 65-84 group doing much of the falls.
    - Deaths still falling

    Don't think the data has updated.
    Shit - sorry brain failed. Been a bad day.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,996
    Yes, the wind-battered figure you’ve seen roaming the streets of constituencies is me

    Vibe in Old Bexley and Sidcup: ‘Boris Johnson is turning the UK into a laughing stock, I have no faith' 😬

    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/old-bexley-sidcup-by-election-residents-boris-johnson-turning-uk-laughing-stock-1329733?ito=twitter_share_article-top
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,189

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Henry V?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,189
    rcs1000 said:

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Henry V?
    (Which works on several different levels...)
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486

    MaxPB said:

    UK COvid summary

    Same again

    - Case increases crawling to a stop nationally. Cases falling in the older groups.
    - Hospitalisation continuing to fall - with the interesting segmentation (at least for England) in the 65-84 group doing much of the falls.
    - Deaths still falling

    Don't think the data has updated.
    Shit - sorry brain failed. Been a bad day.
    No worries.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,219

    UK COvid summary

    Same again

    - Case increases crawling to a stop nationally. Cases falling in the older groups.
    - Hospitalisation continuing to fall - with the interesting segmentation (at least for England) in the 65-84 group doing much of the falls.
    - Deaths still falling

    ? The dashboard figures are yesterday's
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    On the question of films, for anyone interested in the strangenesses of celebrity, Martin Scorsese's "The King of Comedy" is one of the most interesting U.S. films of the 70's and '80s, with Apocalypse Now.

    That could have been on my list actually - the scene where Rupert is imagining Jerry Lewis lavishing praise on his act is genius "You've got it.. and you're stuck with it"
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,645
    rcs1000 said:

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Henry V?
    Madness of King George III . Much better madness than I and II.
  • Stocky said:

    my top 10 films

    Local Hero
    Shooting Fish
    Where Eagles Dare
    Breakfast on Pluto
    The Sting
    Casino
    Glengarry Glen Ross
    Meet the Parents
    Rita Sue and Bob Too
    The imitation game

    A right mix of stuff !

    Rita, Sue and Bob too! I remember that: "We're having a gangbang!"
    Please, this is a family friendly website, and we'll have none of your filth here.
    Rita Sue & Bob Too could not be made today. Not with Bob shagging the schoolgirl babysitters. Certainly not with the girls enjoying sex before they'd graduated from Oxbridge.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,996

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Casino Royale
  • So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    The Mummy? The second remake, not the third…
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    Has there been any thought as to best political film?

    I rather like 'All the President's Men'.

    In my top ten more generally would be;

    Lawrence of Arabia
    Avatar
    Giant
    My Fair Lady
    Jean de Florette
    Big Country (although Unforgiven so nearly takes my Western spot)
    Life of Brian
    Old Boy
  • So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    The Lady Killers hands down the original.

    The Thin Man series actually improved as the series progressed - but that was the output of a studio machine getting further into its stride.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited December 2021

    isam said:

    Never mind best film, can I put in a word for best music video?

    I can't think of anything that so perfectly complements the music (and what a song) and claws at the heart/brain than Steve Wilson's Routine. Seriously, watch it: https://youtu.be/sh5mWzKlhQY

    "So what do I do with all the children's clothes, such tiny things that still smell of them..."

    Blimey, how depressing. I wish I hadn't watched
    Didn't say it was a happy song - its brutal. But beautiful at the same time, and the animation in the video is stunning. The same studio have done a few of his other tracks - must take months to do them as they're all stop motion.
    Yeah it is moving. As the father of two small kids it has just put me in an unhappy frame of mind. Like listening to The Wall or The Smiths, you need to be in the mood. I remember listening to "I know its over" by The Smiths on the train on the way home from work when I was heading to a party, and it completely ruined the whole night for me, good song though I think it is

    For all the beauty in sad pieces of art, sometimes you're better off just not looking at or listening to them

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,189

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Lock, Stock is absolutely superb. (Although, in retrospect, some of the acting is a bit flaky.)
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,673

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Terminator 2
  • rcs1000 said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Lock, Stock is absolutely superb. (Although, in retrospect, some of the acting is a bit flaky.)
    The plotting and dialogue are top rate though.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,650
    edited December 2021

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    The Godfather II.

    Star Trek II.

    Aliens

    Terminator II.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,122

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Mel Ferrer vs Stewart Granger in Scaramouche was pretty good as sword fights in movies go.
    I remember seeing that as a kid and being very impressed. It would probably be ridiculous if I watched it now, so I've resisted a second look.
    The Duellists was pretty damn good.

    This is an interesting analysis from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tM_YHvhuA
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,523

    algarkirk said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Talking of pedantry, I know I have quite a few fellow grammarians on PB and I need your assistance.

    So what's the plural of task force? I wrote task forces and it seemed just wrong, is it like attorneys general and thus tasks force?

    A tasks force would be something very different from a task force.
    Task forces is correct, I think.

    (And it is definitely not like attorneys general.)
    Carnyx said:

    Talking of pedantry, I know I have quite a few fellow grammarians on PB and I need your assistance.

    So what's the plural of task force? I wrote task forces and it seemed just wrong, is it like attorneys general and thus tasks force?

    Task forces is right; force is the noun, task is an adjectival noun. In Attorny general it is attorney which is the noun and general the adjective.
    Cheers both, it just looked wrong when I typed it on screen.
    Happens to me all the time.
    English is clearly designed to be like that to confound foreigners.

    Attorney generals is also grammatically correct, of course, but just means something else.
    It is attorneys general, for the same reason you wouldn't say generals attorney.

    It's amazing anyone wants to or manages to learn this absurd language.

    Hart's guide says: "compound words formed by a noun and a following adjective, or two nouns connected by a preposition, generally form their plural by a change in the key word"

    e.g Attorneys General
    fathers-in-law
    if dealing with plural possessives, is it then fathers in law's pens; fathers' in law pens; fathers in laws' pens or fathers' in law pens? Or maybe other options are available (fathers's' in laws' ...) etc

  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810
    rcs1000 said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Lock, Stock is absolutely superb. (Although, in retrospect, some of the acting is a bit flaky.)
    Ooh, yes, I might include LS&2SB in mine. The elegance with which the plot unfolds in the last 30 minutes is wonderful. It's slightly cheesy and very clever at the same time.
  • algarkirk said:

    algarkirk said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Talking of pedantry, I know I have quite a few fellow grammarians on PB and I need your assistance.

    So what's the plural of task force? I wrote task forces and it seemed just wrong, is it like attorneys general and thus tasks force?

    A tasks force would be something very different from a task force.
    Task forces is correct, I think.

    (And it is definitely not like attorneys general.)
    Carnyx said:

    Talking of pedantry, I know I have quite a few fellow grammarians on PB and I need your assistance.

    So what's the plural of task force? I wrote task forces and it seemed just wrong, is it like attorneys general and thus tasks force?

    Task forces is right; force is the noun, task is an adjectival noun. In Attorny general it is attorney which is the noun and general the adjective.
    Cheers both, it just looked wrong when I typed it on screen.
    Happens to me all the time.
    English is clearly designed to be like that to confound foreigners.

    Attorney generals is also grammatically correct, of course, but just means something else.
    It is attorneys general, for the same reason you wouldn't say generals attorney.

    It's amazing anyone wants to or manages to learn this absurd language.

    Hart's guide says: "compound words formed by a noun and a following adjective, or two nouns connected by a preposition, generally form their plural by a change in the key word"

    e.g Attorneys General
    fathers-in-law
    if dealing with plural possessives, is it then fathers in law's pens; fathers' in law pens; fathers in laws' pens or fathers' in law pens? Or maybe other options are available (fathers's' in laws' ...) etc

    How many fathers in law do you have, and what are you doing with their pens?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,122

    Top 10 films (in descending order, approximately):
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Frozen
    The Philadelphia Story
    Toy Story 3
    The Blues Brothers
    Some Like It Hot
    Dr Strangelove
    The Railway Children
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

    Dr Strangelove is an absolute marvel, I think. Profound, haunting genius. And then 2001 only a couple of years later.
    Agreed.
    IAWL and The Philadelphia Story were alternatives for my list.
  • Scott_xP said:

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Casino Royale
    Godfather II
    Heat (as opposed to the original TV pilot, LA Takedown)
    (Out of two films nobody really cares about) The Suicide Squad
  • Never mind best film, can I put in a word for best music video?

    I can't think of anything that so perfectly complements the music (and what a song) and claws at the heart/brain than Steve Wilson's Routine. Seriously, watch it: https://youtu.be/sh5mWzKlhQY

    "So what do I do with all the children's clothes, such tiny things that still smell of them..."

    That's depressing, but is a good video. Has quite a Tim Burton vibe to the graphics I thought.

    My favourite music video (not my favourite song) is November Rain.

    Tells the story of the ballad really well, plays with emotions and with a great guitar riff in the middle. https://youtu.be/8SbUC-UaAxE
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810
    edited December 2021
    ...come ON dashboard, update ...
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,731
    Carnyx said:

    Cookie said:

    Carnyx said:

    Cookie said:

    JBriskin3 said:

    Aslan said:

    Top 10 movies:

    Bladerunner 2049
    The Godfather (Parts I and II)
    The Shawshank Redemption
    The Constant Gardener
    The Road
    Fight Club
    Aliens
    Apocalypse Now!
    Pulp Fiction
    Road to Perdition

    Glad to see Fight Club has made it to someones list.

    Pulp Fiction is another cracker.

    Bladerunner 2049 is one of the few films I own on DVD - pretty slooooow going on the the re-watch.
    According to this site@
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFI_Top_100_British_films
    the only Carry On film which makes it into the top 100 British Films is Carry On up the Khyber.

    Which, on reflection, would be my choice. Well, I'm not sure about best, but perhaps 'most archetypal'. It also has the most Carry On title.

    I'm struggling to think of 10 films I'd have in my top 10. My top 2 would be:

    24 Hour Party People
    Local Hero

    and the other 8 might include:

    Whisky Galore
    Sleuth
    The Railway Children
    Shallow Grave
    The Royal Tenenbaums
    2001
    Airplane
    LA Story
    Hmm, which WG and which RC?
    There are more than one? I think I mean the originals of each. The only WG I've seen was so primitively shot it was quite hard to make out what was going on; I can't imagine that was a remake. And the RC I know dates from well before I was born.
    "Daddy, my Daddy!". Welling up now just thinking about it.
    Awwww!

    There's actually a Gregor Fisher/Eddie Izzard remake of WG which I have not seen; ditto of RC with Jenny Agutter as mother this time (had bought it for our niece without looking further than her name, and was very cheesed to discover it wasn't the original).

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4769214/
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215111/
    I've seen the WG remake (think it was on iplayer maybe). Not great, not terrible. I don't need to see it again. Izzard was pretty good. I haven't seen the original, but have read the book, which was fun (while staying on Barra - it was one of those left in the holiday let).
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,813
    edited December 2021
    Omnium said:

    Has there been any thought as to best political film?

    I rather like 'All the President's Men'.

    In my top ten more generally would be;

    Lawrence of Arabia
    Avatar
    Giant
    My Fair Lady
    Jean de Florette
    Big Country (although Unforgiven so nearly takes my Western spot)
    Life of Brian
    Old Boy

    I think the best political film (politics tends to lend itself better to dramas i think ) is the Death of Stalin but a film that best shows off politics albeit in a corporate sense is the superb Margin Call where the "issue" gets passed from the staffer to the supervisor to his boss to his boss to his boss to eventually Jeremey Irons who well just bosses it !
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,189
    Cookie said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Lock, Stock is absolutely superb. (Although, in retrospect, some of the acting is a bit flaky.)
    Ooh, yes, I might include LS&2SB in mine. The elegance with which the plot unfolds in the last 30 minutes is wonderful. It's slightly cheesy and very clever at the same time.
    The dialog - while completely implausible - is utterly brilliant.

    "This is London, not the Lebanon"
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,374

    The Sun really is a hateful bigoted rag. Just look at the sneering, would I be allowed to sneer at poor people like this?

    Also, Cambridge isn't full of toffs, but honest working class kids who have worked hard to get into the finest university in the world.

    POSH students claim that their university experience is crumbling — because their college does not have a pastry chef.

    Undergraduates at Cambridge University’s Corpus Christi College no longer get handmade artisan breakfasts after kitchen staff walked out.

    Hungry toffs now slink off to other colleges for their morning grub as brekkie has been axed altogether. Food quality has also taken a battering, with horrified students confronted with cakes bought from shops.

    The college — once home to Downton Abbey star Hugh Bonneville — has seen several catering staff leave, including a MasterChef quarter-finalist, in a conflict with management.

    One student complained that it feels like a “loss of the Cambridge experience”.

    A source said college management had “prioritised cost over quality” and “the freezers were stuffed”.


    They added: “Fresh ingredients were replaced with bulk-bought food, cakes were shop-bought, and ­vegetables were pre-cut.”

    Posh “formals” — black-tie gatherings — will also no longer take place at the college, founded in 1352.

    Its kitchen was said to have become “one of the highest performing in Cambridge”.


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16901172/uni-students-experience-ruined-no-pastry-chef/

    Can't hungry toffs send their Chauffeurs to Fitzbillies anymore?

    Anyway surely the Sun means hungry, lazy, woke liberals? Toffs like Boris Johnson and JRM don't need pastry chefs just a branch of Greggs, they are the new working class.
  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59487910

    I’d be very supposed if it were a 250kg bomb as I don’t think either we or the Americans were using metric bomb sizes…
  • Stocky said:

    my top 10 films

    Local Hero
    Shooting Fish
    Where Eagles Dare
    Breakfast on Pluto
    The Sting
    Casino
    Glengarry Glen Ross
    Meet the Parents
    Rita Sue and Bob Too
    The imitation game

    A right mix of stuff !

    Rita, Sue and Bob too! I remember that: "We're having a gangbang!"
    Please, this is a family friendly website, and we'll have none of your filth here.
    Rita Sue & Bob Too could not be made today. Not with Bob shagging the schoolgirl babysitters. Certainly not with the girls enjoying sex before they'd graduated from Oxbridge.
    And what about Dr. Strangelove's stereotyping of "the evil disabled person"?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,325
    Nigelb said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Mel Ferrer vs Stewart Granger in Scaramouche was pretty good as sword fights in movies go.
    I remember seeing that as a kid and being very impressed. It would probably be ridiculous if I watched it now, so I've resisted a second look.
    The Duellists was pretty damn good.

    This is an interesting analysis from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tM_YHvhuA
    As someone whose fenced - all movie sword fights are bollocks.

    Occasionally you get something near realism - as in the Duellists.

    Expecting realism is like wondering how James Bond gets his expenses approved.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    Indy: It’s a shame that the ultimate ambition for many successful politicians must be to become prime minister. The skills earned during years at the coalface often leave the rising star deeply under-prepared for the top job, which requires an altogether different set of talents and personal characteristics. It’s no good being a great politician inside Number 10; once there, you have to ditch politics and practice statecraft instead. You have to show leadership, measure, poise. Boris Johnson was always going to be found wanting.

    The leader is unfit for the job because he doesn’t know how to moderate his tone to the occasion. The Peppa Pig farce last week might have dropped an early hint that the gift of the gab is finally starting to lose its political power. Today Johnson discovers himself unable to find the words to clarify whether or not his office went ahead and held a Christmas party last year, when the virus was in widespread circulation and only a handful of the population was vaccinated – and after which he went on to (in his own politicised terms) “cancel Christmas”.

    We’re all exhausted by the course of this pandemic. After a difficult week, the All Party Parliamentary Group on Coronavirus called for “timely and clear” decisions that won’t leave families “in limbo” over Christmas. What a test for a man who relies on nothing more than faded charm.
  • Never mind best film, can I put in a word for best music video?

    I can't think of anything that so perfectly complements the music (and what a song) and claws at the heart/brain than Steve Wilson's Routine. Seriously, watch it: https://youtu.be/sh5mWzKlhQY

    "So what do I do with all the children's clothes, such tiny things that still smell of them..."

    That's depressing, but is a good video. Has quite a Tim Burton vibe to the graphics I thought.

    My favourite music video (not my favourite song) is November Rain.

    Tells the story of the ballad really well, plays with emotions and with a great guitar riff in the middle. https://youtu.be/8SbUC-UaAxE
    Yes, a great piece of art (song + video). GnR were on it. For a short period of time. Then absolutely fell apart.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770

    Omnium said:

    Has there been any thought as to best political film?

    I rather like 'All the President's Men'.

    In my top ten more generally would be;

    Lawrence of Arabia
    Avatar
    Giant
    My Fair Lady
    Jean de Florette
    Big Country (although Unforgiven so nearly takes my Western spot)
    Life of Brian
    Old Boy

    I think the best political film (politics tends to lend itself better to dramas i think ) is the Death of Stalin but a film that best shows off politics albeit in a corporate sense is the superb Margin Call where the "issue" gets passed from the staffer to the supervisor to his boss to his boss to his boss to eventually Jeremey Irons who well just bosses it !
    Aha - a film I don't know. I'll treat it as a recommendation! Thanks :)

  • So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    The Godfather II.

    Star Trek II.

    Aliens

    Terminator II.
    Paddington 2.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,122

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Godfather II is widely acknowledged as such (though I don't care much for either).
    Goldfinger is a sequel to Dr No, and definitely better.

    And @TheScreamingEagles has a thing for Wrath of Khan, which is also a sequel of sorts.

    Remakes... The Fly (Jeff Goldblum), The Thing (the John Carpenter version), True Grit (Jeff Bridges is simply a better actor than Wayne).
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,391
    Well, we knew Omicron was “kinda catchy” but fucking hell. THAT is fast


    #COVID19 UPDATE: A total of 51,977 tests were conducted in the last 24hrs, with 8,561 new cases, which represents a 16.5% positivity rate. A further 28 #COVID19 related deaths have been reported, bringing total fatalities to 89,871 to date. See more here: nicd.ac.za/latest-confirm…”

    https://twitter.com/nicd_sa/status/1466089777938280452?s=21


  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,199
    The Truman Show is a great film imo. Also one I watched ages ago, only on TV and only once, a Dutch psycho-chiller called The Golden Egg, which if the test of a film is how long it stays on your mind is easily the best I've ever seen.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,325
    Nigelb said:

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    Godfather II is widely acknowledged as such (though I don't care much for either).
    Goldfinger is a sequel to Dr No, and definitely better.

    And @TheScreamingEagles has a thing for Wrath of Khan, which is also a sequel of sorts.

    Remakes... The Fly (Jeff Goldblum), The Thing (the John Carpenter version), True Grit (Jeff Bridges is simply a better actor than Wayne).
    Thomas Crown Affair remake was better than the original.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    Omnium said:

    Omnium said:

    Has there been any thought as to best political film?

    I rather like 'All the President's Men'.

    In my top ten more generally would be;

    Lawrence of Arabia
    Avatar
    Giant
    My Fair Lady
    Jean de Florette
    Big Country (although Unforgiven so nearly takes my Western spot)
    Life of Brian
    Old Boy

    I think the best political film (politics tends to lend itself better to dramas i think ) is the Death of Stalin but a film that best shows off politics albeit in a corporate sense is the superb Margin Call where the "issue" gets passed from the staffer to the supervisor to his boss to his boss to his boss to eventually Jeremey Irons who well just bosses it !
    Aha - a film I don't know. I'll treat it as a recommendation! Thanks :)

    Margin Call is well worth a watch. Death of Stalin was puerile and misjudged bad taste and many of the jokes simply fall flat, and that's before you start to think about what we are being invited to laugh about.
  • Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    My list is favourite films not already done, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t seen Rear Window; I will rectify the error this evening.

    On that subject, has anyone mentioned Twelve Angry Men yet?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810

    Omnium said:

    Has there been any thought as to best political film?

    I rather like 'All the President's Men'.

    In my top ten more generally would be;

    Lawrence of Arabia
    Avatar
    Giant
    My Fair Lady
    Jean de Florette
    Big Country (although Unforgiven so nearly takes my Western spot)
    Life of Brian
    Old Boy

    I think the best political film (politics tends to lend itself better to dramas i think ) is the Death of Stalin but a film that best shows off politics albeit in a corporate sense is the superb Margin Call where the "issue" gets passed from the staffer to the supervisor to his boss to his boss to his boss to eventually Jeremey Irons who well just bosses it !
    I thought Death of Stalin was brilliant.

    Pretty much every film Steve Buscemi has been in has been brilliant. No because he's a good actor - although he is - but because he picks his films pretty much spot on to my taste.
    Though my favourite character in that film was Michael Palin's.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,374
    Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    Peppa Pig The Movie (2021) hasn't got the nod from the fanbois yet, which I find astounding.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770

    Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    My list is favourite films not already done, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t seen Rear Window; I will rectify the error this evening.

    On that subject, has anyone mentioned Twelve Angry Men yet?
    Twelve Angry Men is outstanding. Count that as being in my top ten (I had a couple of spaces)
  • Two rumbles from the UK vaccine roll-out programme.

    1) Today, the Wales & Scotland stock gap closed. I believe the gap is due to stock sometimes kept back from the roll-out; it shows because Wales receives Pfizer direct.

    Implies *everything* has been handed to the nations.


    https://twitter.com/PaulMainwood/status/1466087891680079872?s=20
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,996
    Cookie said:

    Pretty much every film Steve Buscemi has been in has been brilliant. No because he's a good actor - although he is - but because he picks his films pretty much spot on to my taste.

    Airheads
  • Leon said:

    Well, we knew Omicron was “kinda catchy” but fucking hell. THAT is fast


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  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    So another question: remakes or sequels which are better than the originals?

    I can't think of any ...

    The Godfather II.

    Star Trek II.

    Aliens

    Terminator II.
    Terminator is 1,000,000 times better than its twee, sanitised sequel.

    Toy Story 2 is as good as Toy Story.
  • Nigelb said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Mel Ferrer vs Stewart Granger in Scaramouche was pretty good as sword fights in movies go.
    I remember seeing that as a kid and being very impressed. It would probably be ridiculous if I watched it now, so I've resisted a second look.
    The Duellists was pretty damn good.

    This is an interesting analysis from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tM_YHvhuA
    As someone whose fenced - all movie sword fights are bollocks.

    Occasionally you get something near realism - as in the Duellists.

    Expecting realism is like wondering how James Bond gets his expenses approved.
    Movie sword fights are as realistic as the dialogue in an opera, and that is sort of the point.
  • EU Commissioner happy.....wonder if the French will be:

    Spoke with Secretary of State Eustice.
    Our continuous efforts with United Kingdom have paid off.
    43 vessels now have the certainty of continuing their fishing activities in Guernsey waters & 40 of them were licensed today.
    Intensified talks continue in good spirit. We touch base in a week.


    https://twitter.com/VSinkevicius/status/1466050195750375443?s=20
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    IanB2 said:

    Omnium said:

    Omnium said:

    Has there been any thought as to best political film?

    I rather like 'All the President's Men'.

    In my top ten more generally would be;

    Lawrence of Arabia
    Avatar
    Giant
    My Fair Lady
    Jean de Florette
    Big Country (although Unforgiven so nearly takes my Western spot)
    Life of Brian
    Old Boy

    I think the best political film (politics tends to lend itself better to dramas i think ) is the Death of Stalin but a film that best shows off politics albeit in a corporate sense is the superb Margin Call where the "issue" gets passed from the staffer to the supervisor to his boss to his boss to his boss to eventually Jeremey Irons who well just bosses it !
    Aha - a film I don't know. I'll treat it as a recommendation! Thanks :)

    Margin Call is well worth a watch. Death of Stalin was puerile and misjudged bad taste and many of the jokes simply fall flat, and that's before you start to think about what we are being invited to laugh about.
    I think I've seen it but any and all financial market films fall flat if you've actually worked there. Oddly the only financial markets linked film I quite like is Trading Places.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,731
    kinabalu said:

    The Truman Show is a great film imo. Also one I watched ages ago, only on TV and only once, a Dutch psycho-chiller called The Golden Egg, which if the test of a film is how long it stays on your mind is easily the best I've ever seen.

    Not doing a Top 10 (as I'm rubbish at remembering lists - I'd make a list and then amend it every time someome mentioned a good film I'd forgotten).

    But in niche but good films, not necessarily top ten, but worth a watch:
    - End of Sentence (recentish, I think - father-son road trip after death of mother, but much better than that suggests)
    - Head On (English title)/ Gegen die Wand (German - 'Against the wall') from ealry 2000s, I think. Random late night watch on telly, but a fascinating piece of work
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Nigelb said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Mel Ferrer vs Stewart Granger in Scaramouche was pretty good as sword fights in movies go.
    I remember seeing that as a kid and being very impressed. It would probably be ridiculous if I watched it now, so I've resisted a second look.
    The Duellists was pretty damn good.

    This is an interesting analysis from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tM_YHvhuA
    As someone whose fenced - all movie sword fights are bollocks.

    Occasionally you get something near realism - as in the Duellists.

    Expecting realism is like wondering how James Bond gets his expenses approved.
    Movie sword fights are as realistic as the dialogue in an opera, and that is sort of the point.
    I shouldn't think much real life sword fighting is particularly like fencing, though. Completely different weapons for starters.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,391
    WITHNAIL AND I
    SPINAL TAP
    INSIDE OUT
    THE EXORCIST
    LA LA LAND
    SOUND OF MUSIC
    THE WICKER MAN
    1917
    ANDREI RUBLYEV
    RATATOUILLE
  • Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    My list is favourite films not already done, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t seen Rear Window; I will rectify the error this evening.

    On that subject, has anyone mentioned Twelve Angry Men yet?
    Oh my goodness, Twelve Angry Men is even better than Rear Window.

    But seriously, Rear Window is magical. Everything is spot on. Hitchcock could make magnificent films in incredibly limited settings. See also Rope. I believe both are the same in the way that they're set almost entirely in a single room (or looking out from it).
    That is one of the points of Twelve Angry Men too. It was originally a play, and it works very well on the stage still.

    I will report back on Rear Window once I’ve seen it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,391
    But i could equally name 90 other great movies, just as good
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    I've been pondering which b&w films I really like. I'll give you two - Hobson's Choice, and Goodbye Mr Chips.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,023
    Catch 22 is better than the previous 21 fillims.

    (But I thought that a lot of the book was a bit bollocks)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,325
    IshmaelZ said:

    Nigelb said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Mel Ferrer vs Stewart Granger in Scaramouche was pretty good as sword fights in movies go.
    I remember seeing that as a kid and being very impressed. It would probably be ridiculous if I watched it now, so I've resisted a second look.
    The Duellists was pretty damn good.

    This is an interesting analysis from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tM_YHvhuA
    As someone whose fenced - all movie sword fights are bollocks.

    Occasionally you get something near realism - as in the Duellists.

    Expecting realism is like wondering how James Bond gets his expenses approved.
    Movie sword fights are as realistic as the dialogue in an opera, and that is sort of the point.
    I shouldn't think much real life sword fighting is particularly like fencing, though. Completely different weapons for starters.
    Foil is furthest from melee fighting, but you can understand from it how the some real stuff works, if you think about it.

    Sabre and Epee illustrate other styles.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    Nigelb said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Mel Ferrer vs Stewart Granger in Scaramouche was pretty good as sword fights in movies go.
    I remember seeing that as a kid and being very impressed. It would probably be ridiculous if I watched it now, so I've resisted a second look.
    The Duellists was pretty damn good.

    This is an interesting analysis from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tM_YHvhuA
    As someone whose fenced - all movie sword fights are bollocks.

    Occasionally you get something near realism - as in the Duellists.

    Expecting realism is like wondering how James Bond gets his expenses approved.
    Movie sword fights are as realistic as the dialogue in an opera, and that is sort of the point.
    I shouldn't think much real life sword fighting is particularly like fencing, though. Completely different weapons for starters.
    Most actual sword fights in battle either involved shields and formations or were over in one or two strokes I expect.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    Leon said:

    But i could equally name 90 other great movies, just as good

    You might be missing the point with that statement :)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,325
    Scott_xP said:

    Cookie said:

    Pretty much every film Steve Buscemi has been in has been brilliant. No because he's a good actor - although he is - but because he picks his films pretty much spot on to my taste.

    Airheads
    I! AM! ROCK! AND! ROLL!
  • RIGA, Dec 1 (Reuters) - The United States is deeply concerned by evidence that Russia has made plans for significant aggressive moves against Ukraine and will respond with a range of "high impact" economic measures if Moscow invades, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.

    Speaking after a NATO foreign ministers' meeting on Wednesday in the Latvian capital Riga, Blinken said Russia's plans included efforts to destabilise Ukraine from within as well as large-scale military operations.


    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blinken-warns-high-impact-economic-steps-if-russia-invades-ukraine-2021-12-01/
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,385
    Leon said:

    WITHNAIL AND I
    SPINAL TAP
    INSIDE OUT
    THE EXORCIST
    LA LA LAND
    SOUND OF MUSIC
    THE WICKER MAN
    1917
    ANDREI RUBLYEV
    RATATOUILLE

    CAPITAL LETTERS: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0439490/
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,270

    Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    My list is favourite films not already done, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t seen Rear Window; I will rectify the error this evening.
    You are in for a treat, fantastic film. Grace Kelly is also stunning in it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,325

    Nigelb said:

    Favourite films I haven’t already seen in a list on their thread and would be happy to watch again:

    Life of Brian
    Princess Bride (best sword fight in cinema)
    Hot Fuzz
    Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
    Wall-E
    The Martian
    Coco
    Grand Budapest Hotel
    Paddington (1&2)
    Knives Out

    Mel Ferrer vs Stewart Granger in Scaramouche was pretty good as sword fights in movies go.
    I remember seeing that as a kid and being very impressed. It would probably be ridiculous if I watched it now, so I've resisted a second look.
    The Duellists was pretty damn good.

    This is an interesting analysis from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tM_YHvhuA
    As someone whose fenced - all movie sword fights are bollocks.

    Occasionally you get something near realism - as in the Duellists.

    Expecting realism is like wondering how James Bond gets his expenses approved.
    Movie sword fights are as realistic as the dialogue in an opera, and that is sort of the point.
    Exactly.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,199
    Omnium said:

    Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    My list is favourite films not already done, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t seen Rear Window; I will rectify the error this evening.

    On that subject, has anyone mentioned Twelve Angry Men yet?
    Twelve Angry Men is outstanding. Count that as being in my top ten (I had a couple of spaces)
    Yes, brilliant. Henry Fonda terrific as a low key superhero pulling off something far more difficult than anything Batman or Bond ever did - changing people's minds with pure reason and logic!

    Bet he couldn't manage that on here though. He'd be told to provide a link or piss off.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,996
    Farooq said:

    Withnail and I, oh yes.
    Leon, all is forgiven.

    I used to work with the guy that rolled the Camberwell Carrot
  • Omnium said:

    I've been pondering which b&w films I really like. I'll give you two - Hobson's Choice, and Goodbye Mr Chips.

    For a B&W xmas film (well it is December, just), then Simms in 1951's Scrooge (A Christmas Carol) is wonderful. Anyone who colourises this film should be shot at dawn.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,391
    Omnium said:

    Leon said:

    But i could equally name 90 other great movies, just as good

    You might be missing the point with that statement :)
    No, I’m making another point. Cinema - although it may be in decline now (some say) - has just been through an epic 60-70 year olden age, with great great movies from all over the world. We have been blessed. Choosing ten is almost a lottery - it’s ten great movies you can remember right now

    In five minutes I will remember ten more, or twenty

    I mean, PREDATOR

    ALIEN

    BLADE RUNNER

    DISTRICT 9

    MARS ATTACKS

    ALIENS

    2001: KUBRICK

    STAR WARS 1

    Are all up there, and that’s just sci-fi
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,023
    Leon said:

    But i could equally name 90 other great movies, just as good

    I'd assumed that 50 First Dates would be one of your favourites.

    (And no second dates)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810
    Scott_xP said:

    Cookie said:

    Pretty much every film Steve Buscemi has been in has been brilliant. No because he's a good actor - although he is - but because he picks his films pretty much spot on to my taste.

    Airheads
    I'm not sure if you're posting that to prove or disprove my point, but I loved Airheads. Not least because a) Lemmy was in it, and b) part of the soundtrack was Anthrax (beloved by teenage Cookie) covering a song by the Smiths (beloved by adult Cookie).
  • Farooq said:

    Leon said:

    WITHNAIL AND I
    SPINAL TAP
    INSIDE OUT
    THE EXORCIST
    LA LA LAND
    SOUND OF MUSIC
    THE WICKER MAN
    1917
    ANDREI RUBLYEV
    RATATOUILLE

    Withnail and I, oh yes.
    Leon, all is forgiven.
    Withnail and I is a comic masterpiece.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,164
    edited December 2021
    Scott_xP said:

    Farooq said:

    Withnail and I, oh yes.
    Leon, all is forgiven.

    I used to work with the guy that rolled the Camberwell Carrot
    Indeed, a great film. I remember reading once that its scriptwriter, Bruce Robinson, was one day feeling increasingly fed up with living an exciting but poor life on the bohemian margins of things, and considered himself a professional failure. This was somewhat like some of the characters and the milieu of the story. So he drank a whole bottle of red wine and vowed to himself he would finish a script over two days in his London squat-type accommodation, much like one of his characters might have done.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited December 2021
    Surprised no one has mentioned Citizen Kane - which, despite the hype, is very good. One of the great things about directors like Hitchcock - who started in the silent era - is the importance of visuals - nowadays many directors seem to think "if its in the words, job done" - a good test of a TV commercial is to turn the sound off - if you still understand it from the pictures, you've potentially got a good ad. Take the start of Rear Window - how Jimmy Stewart ended up where & how he is explained in a couple of frames....
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,731
    edited December 2021
    Selebian said:

    kinabalu said:

    The Truman Show is a great film imo. Also one I watched ages ago, only on TV and only once, a Dutch psycho-chiller called The Golden Egg, which if the test of a film is how long it stays on your mind is easily the best I've ever seen.

    Not doing a Top 10 (as I'm rubbish at remembering lists - I'd make a list and then amend it every time someome mentioned a good film I'd forgotten).

    But in niche but good films, not necessarily top ten, but worth a watch:
    - End of Sentence (recentish, I think - father-son road trip after death of mother, but much better than that suggests)
    - Head On (English title)/ Gegen die Wand (German - 'Against the wall') from ealry 2000s, I think. Random late night watch on telly, but a fascinating piece of work
    Oh and The Lives of Others and Goodbye Lenin (not mentioned by others?). Starting to think I'm just a sucker for German cinema....
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,670
    edited December 2021
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    My list is favourite films not already done, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t seen Rear Window; I will rectify the error this evening.

    On that subject, has anyone mentioned Twelve Angry Men yet?
    Oh my goodness, Twelve Angry Men is even better than Rear Window.

    But seriously, Rear Window is magical. Everything is spot on. Hitchcock could make magnificent films in incredibly limited settings. See also Rope. I believe both are the same in the way that they're set almost entirely in a single room (or looking out from it).
    The only quibble I would have is that James Stewart is about 10 years too old.

    I would definitely have it as the best Hitchcock though, which must put it high up any list.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,996
    edited December 2021
    Cookie said:

    I'm not sure if you're posting that to prove or disprove my point, but I loved Airheads. Not least because a) Lemmy was in it, and b) part of the soundtrack was Anthrax (beloved by teenage Cookie) covering a song by the Smiths (beloved by adult Cookie).

    It's a great film

    EDIT: I love the fact the boss is played by David St Hubbins
  • NerysHughesNerysHughes Posts: 3,375
    The Day of the Jackal
    Life of Brian
    Airplane
    Twelve Angry Men
    Ed Wood
    The Sting
    The Pelican Brief
    Blazing Saddles
    Gregorys Girl
    Stripes
    Big
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,996

    Indeed, a great film. I remember reading once that the scriptwriter, Bruce Robinson, was one day increasingly fed up with living an exciting but poor margin life on the bohemian margins of things, and considered himself a professional failure ; perhaps like some of the characters in the story. So he drank a whole bottle of red wine and vowed to himself he would finish a script over two days in his London squat-like accommodation, much like one of the characters would have done.

    The story of the carrot is that the prop guy made one which was feeble, so the director asked if anybody on the crew could roll a better one.

    And they could!
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590
    Pretty crap numbers today,but last couple of thursdays have had weirdly high 3 day delayed returns which may have been fixed this week so we'll have to wait to see if it's a real increase
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,391
    Musicals


    MY FAIR LADY
    OLIVER
    GUYS AND DOLLS
    ALL THAT JAZZ
    WEST SIDE STORY
    CABARET
    BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
    BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
    SINGING IN THE RAIN
    BUGSY MALONE

  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810
    edited December 2021
    Dashboard updated now. 48374, 171, 706. Slight uptick in cases and deaths WoW. Booo!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,650
    edited December 2021
    Leon said:

    Musicals


    MY FAIR LADY
    OLIVER
    GUYS AND DOLLS
    ALL THAT JAZZ
    WEST SIDE STORY
    CABARET
    BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
    BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
    SINGING IN THE RAIN
    BUGSY MALONE

    Delete your account.

    Any list of top musical films that doesn't include Mamma Mia and Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again is a list compiled by an idiot.
  • Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    My list is favourite films not already done, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t seen Rear Window; I will rectify the error this evening.

    On that subject, has anyone mentioned Twelve Angry Men yet?
    Oh my goodness, Twelve Angry Men is even better than Rear Window.

    But seriously, Rear Window is magical. Everything is spot on. Hitchcock could make magnificent films in incredibly limited settings. See also Rope. I believe both are the same in the way that they're set almost entirely in a single room (or looking out from it).
    That is one of the points of Twelve Angry Men too. It was originally a play, and it works very well on the stage still.

    I will report back on Rear Window once I’ve seen it.
    I hope you love it. If you don't grip your chair at least once the film has failed.
    What is the point of Netflix? Any time I look for a specific film it gives me a range of options of films with the same words in the title, but not the actual film I wanted.

    Amazon Prime it is then…
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    Leon said:

    Omnium said:

    Leon said:

    But i could equally name 90 other great movies, just as good

    You might be missing the point with that statement :)
    No, I’m making another point. Cinema - although it may be in decline now (some say) - has just been through an epic 60-70 year olden age, with great great movies from all over the world. We have been blessed. Choosing ten is almost a lottery - it’s ten great movies you can remember right now

    In five minutes I will remember ten more, or twenty

    I mean, PREDATOR

    ALIEN

    BLADE RUNNER

    DISTRICT 9

    MARS ATTACKS

    ALIENS

    2001: KUBRICK

    STAR WARS 1

    Are all up there, and that’s just sci-fi
    Of course. These list things are just a pastime. However I'm certainly going to seek out the Death of Stalin which was suggested below.

    So maybe not tope ten films, but films you can watch again and again.

    I think probably the film I've repeatedly watched most is A Bridge Too Far, but as I was trying to limit my selections to one per genre it had to be Lawrence of Arabia, and I have watched that many, many times too. Poor old 'Das Boot' didn't even get a look in and yet that is outstanding too - perhaps though better categorised as a tv series.
  • Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Astounding that more people would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels in their top ten than would put Rear Window.

    You people.

    My list is favourite films not already done, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t seen Rear Window; I will rectify the error this evening.

    On that subject, has anyone mentioned Twelve Angry Men yet?
    Oh my goodness, Twelve Angry Men is even better than Rear Window.

    But seriously, Rear Window is magical. Everything is spot on. Hitchcock could make magnificent films in incredibly limited settings. See also Rope. I believe both are the same in the way that they're set almost entirely in a single room (or looking out from it).
    That is one of the points of Twelve Angry Men too. It was originally a play, and it works very well on the stage still.

    I will report back on Rear Window once I’ve seen it.
    I hope you love it. If you don't grip your chair at least once the film has failed.
    What is the point of Netflix? Any time I look for a specific film it gives me a range of options of films with the same words in the title, but not the actual film I wanted.

    Amazon Prime it is then…
    Netflix is for boxsets, mostly international ones more than films. Amazon Prime better value at the moment undoubtedly.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    I don't know why the dashboard hasn
    maaarsh said:

    Pretty crap numbers today,but last couple of thursdays have had weirdly high 3 day delayed returns which may have been fixed this week so we'll have to wait to see if it's a real increase

    Looking at specimen date cases still seem to be down so hopefully it will be that weirdness unwinding. We will know tomorrow.

    Hospitalisations are going down still but less quickly. Deaths per day about to go under 100 and still coming down.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810

    Leon said:

    Musicals


    MY FAIR LADY
    OLIVER
    GUYS AND DOLLS
    ALL THAT JAZZ
    WEST SIDE STORY
    CABARET
    BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
    BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
    SINGING IN THE RAIN
    BUGSY MALONE

    Delete your account.

    Any list of top musical films that doesn't include Mamma Mia and Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again is a list compiled by an idiot.
    How has La La land made your list of top 10 films but not top ten musical films?

    I used to think I hated musicals. But on closer inspection what I hate is the particular genre of music which is used in most musicals (I'm looking at Disney in particular here).
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,391
    Omnium said:

    Leon said:

    Omnium said:

    Leon said:

    But i could equally name 90 other great movies, just as good

    You might be missing the point with that statement :)
    No, I’m making another point. Cinema - although it may be in decline now (some say) - has just been through an epic 60-70 year olden age, with great great movies from all over the world. We have been blessed. Choosing ten is almost a lottery - it’s ten great movies you can remember right now

    In five minutes I will remember ten more, or twenty

    I mean, PREDATOR

    ALIEN

    BLADE RUNNER

    DISTRICT 9

    MARS ATTACKS

    ALIENS

    2001: KUBRICK

    STAR WARS 1

    Are all up there, and that’s just sci-fi
    Of course. These list things are just a pastime. However I'm certainly going to seek out the Death of Stalin which was suggested below.

    So maybe not tope ten films, but films you can watch again and again.

    I think probably the film I've repeatedly watched most is A Bridge Too Far, but as I was trying to limit my selections to one per genre it had to be Lawrence of Arabia, and I have watched that many, many times too. Poor old 'Das Boot' didn't even get a look in and yet that is outstanding too - perhaps though better categorised as a tv series.
    Death of Stalin is a masterpiece
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770

    Leon said:

    Musicals


    MY FAIR LADY
    OLIVER
    GUYS AND DOLLS
    ALL THAT JAZZ
    WEST SIDE STORY
    CABARET
    BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
    BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
    SINGING IN THE RAIN
    BUGSY MALONE

    Delete your account.

    Any list of top musical films that doesn't include Mamma Mia and Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again is a list compiled by an idiot.
    Any list that has My Fair Lady at the top is likely to be a good one.
  • juniusjunius Posts: 73
    Lindsay Anderson's 'If'.

    'The Apartment'
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