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  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    First!?

    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    Ms Briskin and I are still fans from Working Lunch.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Mr B and Ms B are arguing about our grammar now.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    * Diplomacy Post *

    @TSE

    I don't want to nag but I don't want the game ruined either. You have less than two hours to complete your orders. Just a reminder in case you have forgotten.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,333
    No8

    Is it possible for a progressive to understand that "preferring" some aspects of the past doesn't mean someone "despises" the present?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,369
    HurstLlama said:

    * Diplomacy Post *

    @TSE

    I don't want to nag but I don't want the game ruined either. You have less than two hours to complete your orders. Just a reminder in case you have forgotten.

    I'll give it my attention now.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Tomorrow is the 1,097th anniversary of The Battle of Acheloos

    Did you just get the news TSE?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Good evening, everyone.

    I appreciate the 20th link, Mr. Eagles. Generally, those with the surname Phocas were awful. Mind you, the second Nicephorus Phocas did a good job and didn't deserve the (literal) kicking John Tzimisces gave him.

    On Harry Potter, I wonder how that tallies with the most popular British fantasy writer today (Joe Abercrombie) or the enormous success of George RR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    JBriskin said:


    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    This is probably the only Guardian article I enjoyed reading in the last 12 months:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/football-cliches/2013/oct/31/talking-language-sunday-league-football

    If you played a drinking game with these phrases in Hackney Marshes you'd be legless after 10 minutes.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    I'm getting a bit bored of the football...

    It's called Game of Thrones, Morris!!!
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,756
    FPT:
    MikeK: first day back at work so UKIP stand not yet sorted, but hope to get it done tomorrow.

    Line management - deciding what projects to do instead of running projects. More money, less fun.

    Hurst: I think we're talking about different things - you're saying that a carrier can be assembled in parts (very true), I'm saying (not very profoundly) that you can't settle for half a carrier as the finished product.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Mr. Briskin, the first book and TV series is named Game of Thrones, the book series is called A Song of Ice and Fire.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    edited August 2014
    Lord Rennard has suspension from Lib Dems lifted

    A Liberal Democrat spokesman said this brought the matter to a close.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28858533
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited August 2014
    Neil said:

    JBriskin said:


    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    This is probably the only Guardian article I enjoyed reading in the last 12 months:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/football-cliches/2013/oct/31/talking-language-sunday-league-football

    If you played a drinking game with these phrases in Hackney Marshes you'd be legless after 10 minutes.
    Where do I start with this?

    1. I'm sure you're right.

    (addendum FWIMC-)

    I have been, both, a Guardian and Observer reader in the past.

    Observer used to have a betting article by the funny guy (horse racing) with the funny beard's wife on gambling.

    Guardian used to have a cartoon column on football, something about getting refs decision right.



  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Briskin, the first book and TV series is named Game of Thrones, the book series is called A Song of Ice and Fire.

    Does it mention that September 19th is International Talk like a Pirate Day?
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Briskin, the first book and TV series is named Game of Thrones, the book series is called A Song of Ice and Fire.

    Yeah yeah yeah - It's called Game of Thrones.

  • isamisam Posts: 42,333
    Neil said:

    JBriskin said:


    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    This is probably the only Guardian article I enjoyed reading in the last 12 months:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/football-cliches/2013/oct/31/talking-language-sunday-league-football

    If you played a drinking game with these phrases in Hackney Marshes you'd be legless after 10 minutes.
    You're right! I reckon there hasn't been a game I've played in when at least 12 weren't said

  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    MarkHopkins said:



    A Liberal Democrat spokesman said this brought the matter to a close.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ... good luck with that!
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Evening all and when does the LibDem civil war start as its rampant feminists go to war on their leadership over Lord Rennard?

    11. A good by-product of a YES vote would be the breakup of the BBC and it's privatisation. Time to rid the country of the state funded media wing of the Labour party.

    10. Not a good day for the NATS. Alex Neill caught out telling huge porkie pies about the NHS in England.

    19. How well would Nigel go down in Thanet South wearing an outsize pair of pink spectacles?

    TSE why no Roman or Carthaginian references this evening?
  • Hertsmere_PubgoerHertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    TSE, I like your links to obscure battles. :-)
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    JBriskin said:

    Neil said:

    JBriskin said:


    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    This is probably the only Guardian article I enjoyed reading in the last 12 months:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/football-cliches/2013/oct/31/talking-language-sunday-league-football

    If you played a drinking game with these phrases in Hackney Marshes you'd be legless after 10 minutes.
    Where do I start with this?

    1. I'm sure you're right.

    (addendum FWIMC-)

    I have been, both, a Guardian and Observer reader in the past.

    Observer used to have a betting article by the funny guy (horse racing) with the funny beard's wife on gambling.

    Guardian used to have a cartoon column on football, something about getting refs decision right.



    One of the phrases I notice in sports broadcasting disappearing is "It is what it is" aka "We are where we are", being replaced by "The hay is in the barn".
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,369
    Easterross said:

    Evening all and when does the LibDem civil war start as its rampant feminists go to war on their leadership over Lord Rennard?

    11. A good by-product of a YES vote would be the breakup of the BBC and it's privatisation. Time to rid the country of the state funded media wing of the Labour party.

    10. Not a good day for the NATS. Alex Neill caught out telling huge porkie pies about the NHS in England.

    19. How well would Nigel go down in Thanet South wearing an outsize pair of pink spectacles?

    TSE why no Roman or Carthaginian references this evening?

    I nearly put in a reference that tomorrow is the anniversary of the death of Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa Postumus
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Mr. Easterross, point of order: Byzantium can legitimately be considered Roman.
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    JBriskin said:

    First!?

    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    Ms Briskin and I are still fans from Working Lunch.

    But he proved during the World Cup he knows very little about football.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Mr. B, you aren't listening to Kimi Raikkonen enough :p
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Easterross
    How long has the BBC been a "left wing mouthpiece"?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,369
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    TSE, I like your links to obscure battles. :-)

    Obscure?

    The lack of classical history knowledge of some posters disturbs me, so it is my way of educating them.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. B, you aren't listening to Kimi Raikkonen enough :p

    Yes - not the best I've ever placed...

    Verstapen (with his super licence) next year apparently...

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    edited August 2014
    UKIP Cllr Chris Wood ‏@Chris_Wood_1989 Aug 13
    The number of EU citizens in the UK increased by 187000 in 3 months this year. The largest increase in 7 years #ukip http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11030392/Number-of-Romanian-and-Bulgarian-workers-in-Britain-hits-new-high.html …

    They all laughed at UKIP. Now they can apologise, but I bet they wont.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Easterross said:

    JBriskin said:

    First!?

    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    Ms Briskin and I are still fans from Working Lunch.

    But he proved during the World Cup he knows very little about football.
    But many people continue to comment about things long after they've proven beyond any doubt that they dont know much about it.

  • Life_ina_market_townLife_ina_market_town Posts: 2,319
    edited August 2014
    [8] is an interesting piece. The author is clearly learned, and the article is based on a reasonable amount of research. The argument is essentially that the contemporary restoration of a caliphate with universal authority is justified by neither Islamic teaching or history. In effect, this is the position of the rafidah, and it is interesting to see a Sunni (who by his own admission was previously sympathetic to Islamism) support it. The problem with the piece is that it implies that the only criteria on which the legitimacy of a universal caliphate should be judged are internal Islamic ones. In other words, if the teachings and history of Islam do in fact oblige the faithful to restore the Caliphate, it would be entirely proper for the Caliphate to annex sovereign states, destroy the Crown of the United Kingdom, and release Muslim subjects from their allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen. That is ipso facto outrageous.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Easterross said:

    JBriskin said:

    First!?

    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    Ms Briskin and I are still fans from Working Lunch.

    But he proved during the World Cup he knows very little about football.
    Not to me he didn't.

    Team Working Lunch FTW!!! (D'y remember Evan from working lunch?)

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,359
    edited August 2014
    FPT @Smarmeron This has nothing to do with problems with British banks; it's nothing more or less than American state piracy. Not the first time they've broken into the Standard Chartered piggy bank either. The last time it was for doing business with the Iranians. Companies like BP and Standard have to do business in America, so there's little they can do except cough up.

    It would be nice to see what would happen if our Government made a few dawn raids on Facebook, Starbucks and Amazon.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. B, you aren't listening to Kimi Raikkonen enough :p

    You can't have too much Kimi - I'm hearing a lot of Robert Kubica on wrc coverage too :-)
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Tim_B said:

    JBriskin said:

    Neil said:

    JBriskin said:


    Adrian Chiles just made a good joke about Sunday league football.

    This is probably the only Guardian article I enjoyed reading in the last 12 months:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/football-cliches/2013/oct/31/talking-language-sunday-league-football

    If you played a drinking game with these phrases in Hackney Marshes you'd be legless after 10 minutes.
    Where do I start with this?

    1. I'm sure you're right.

    (addendum FWIMC-)

    I have been, both, a Guardian and Observer reader in the past.

    Observer used to have a betting article by the funny guy (horse racing) with the funny beard's wife on gambling.

    Guardian used to have a cartoon column on football, something about getting refs decision right.



    One of the phrases I notice in sports broadcasting disappearing is "It is what it is" aka "We are where we are", being replaced by "The hay is in the barn".
    Never heard of that one.

    My own references-

    Born in a barn?

    Sharp shooter fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy)

  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    The attitude that women objecting to being touched up by a lecherous old sap are 'rampant feminists' is probably why blokes like Rennard think they have the green light in the first place.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Luckyguy1983
    Of course it is, all they were doing was a little "money laundering", and what possible harm could that cause? Those Americans, they always over react.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    FPT @Smarmeron This has nothing to do with problems with British banks; it's nothing more or less than American state piracy. Not the first time they've broken into the Standard Chartered piggy bank either. The last time it was for doing business with the Iranians. Companies like BP and Standard have to do business in America, so there's little they can do except cough up.

    It would be nice to see what would happen if our Government made a few dawn raids on Facebook, Starbucks and Amazon.

    Quite so - they regularly raid JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs for alleged irregularities too
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Mr. B, damned shame Kubica had to leave F1. Genuine title contender, in the right car.

    Mr. Briskin, indeed. He'll be as young as Alexander was at the Battle of Chaeronea.

    Mr. Eagles, 10th century, classical? *sighs*
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Easterross said:

    Evening all and when does the LibDem civil war start as its rampant feminists go to war on their leadership over Lord Rennard?

    Statements from the Lib Dems tonight. Are they a serious party? Does Farron not understand what he puts his name to? Anyone spot the problem with this new "gold standard"?

    "The suspension of Lord Rennard's membership of the Liberal Democrats has been lifted, after disciplinary proceedings against him were dropped." Overall statement

    "No one should ever have to feel that their concerns are being dismissed or ignored and I am clear that the Liberal Democrats should become the ‘gold standard’ for how voluntary organisations treat their members and staff."
    – Tim Fallon, party president
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Mr. Betting, looks more like iron pyrite to me...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,369
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. B, damned shame Kubica had to leave F1. Genuine title contender, in the right car.

    Mr. Briskin, indeed. He'll be as young as Alexander was at the Battle of Chaeronea.

    Mr. Eagles, 10th century, classical? *sighs*

    In my definition, anything after 1000 AD is frightfully modern.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The most modern decade was the 1950s.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    edited August 2014
    @JBriskin
    We Pragmatic Communists despise the Lada! (the newer Skodas we tolerate)
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,359
    Smarmeron said:

    @Luckyguy1983
    Of course it is, all they were doing was a little "money laundering", and what possible harm could that cause? Those Americans, they always over react.

    They overreact when there is the prospect of pecuniary gain certainly. They're slightly less responsive when it comes to paying out. Hence Union Carbide paid $471 million in damages for the Bhopal disaster (considered the world's worst industrial disaster), whilst BP's payments for the Deepwater Oil Spill are likely to reach $9 billion.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited August 2014
    [damned shame Kubica had to leave F1. Genuine title contender, in the right car.]

    Quite agree, great driver.

    I was watching a Germany and Poland football match (I presume it was the European Cup) and I think the Poles won - and there was an F1 race not soon after and Kubica won his first (only?) grand prix. I approved of the Polish fans drinking straight vodka.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Mr. Briskin, not sure on Kubica. One win sounds accurate, though he had the skill to get more had he remained in the sport.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    We Pragmatic Communists despise the Lada! (the newer Skodas we tolerate)

    Snotty!

    Looks like a draw in the footie...

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    when challenged, Mr Neil could not provide a single example of the Treasury having cut the English NHS budget, which is increasing by more than inflation.

    In a further embarrassment for the Nationalists, it emerged that Mike Russell, the Education Minister, wrote a book advocating the privatisation of NHS facilities that “failed to maintain profitability”.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11044568/SNPs-NHS-claims-most-scandalous-deceit-of-referendum.html
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Bridget Harris - one of Lord Rennard's alleged victims - tells ITV News she is 'very disappointed' in the decision to lift his suspension.

    Susan Gaszczak @SusanGaszczak
    Very glad I made the right choice in July, the @LibDems have told me I am credible but have no back bone, back to normal then.

    Jim Waterson ‏@jimwaterson 29m
    The Lib Dems' Lord Rennard, of wandering hands fame, let off completely. Statement issued at 8.30pm in silly season: pic.twitter.com/CayCYqPpRF
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    edited August 2014
    @Luckyguy1983
    Non payment on the due date is one of those things that power capitalism.
    Look it on it as part of the fairy dust that makes it grow.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited August 2014
    Kubica was a good driver Morris - we've already agreed on that.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited August 2014
    [Look it on it as part of the fairy dust that makes it grow.]

    Magic beans??

    GDP is going up = Coalationista s win forever!!!
  • Life_ina_market_townLife_ina_market_town Posts: 2,319
    edited August 2014
    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    We Pragmatic Communists despise the Lada! (the newer Skodas we tolerate)

    Can "pragmatic communism" be defined as the advocacy of "socialism in one country" rather than "world revolution"?
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    In my definition, anything after 1000 AD is frightfully modern.

    That is not just your definition. In the twelfth-century, John of Salisbury denounced in his Metalogicon 'modern' academic jargon, while in 1290, Simon of Warwick, the Abbot of St Mary's at York, condemned subtilitas modernorum (the subtlety of the moderns) in a parliamentary petition during Edward I's quo warranto proceedings. [See M.T. Clanchy, 'Moderni in Education and Government in England', Speculum, 50(4), (1975), pp. 671-688]
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Watching the USA Cycling Pro Challenge - essentially a tour of Colorado - and once you see it is actually possible to cycle race at 12,000 feet of altitude, and looking at a couple of teams.

    One just has a great name - Jelly Belly Sports Beans - and the other is quite inspiring;Every member of Team Novo Nordisk has type 1 diabetes.

    http://www.5280.com/news/sports/digital/2014/08/diabetes-cycling-team-prepares-usa-pro-challenge
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Smarmeron said:

    @Easterross
    How long has the BBC been a "left wing mouthpiece"?

    I have never known it to be otherwise. Back in the 1970s, Cllr Rob Logan, the Tory Councillor for Kelvinside in Glasgow joked that he was the token Tory in BBC Scotland. A great many of the key political journalistic team in the BBC are either ex-Labour wonks, offspring of them or married to them. Even Chris Patten is barely a Tory and he has no editorial relevance anyway.

    typically today the BBC led on inflation busting train ticket price rises and grudgingly commented about 10 minutes later that inflation had actually fallen more than expected. In between they had managed to interview Tory bashing GMB and renationalisation wonks. If that is balanced reporting, the pope is my uncle!
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    MikeK said:


    They all laughed at UKIP. Now they can apologise, but I bet they wont.

    There seems to be 15,000 more Romanians and Bulgarians working in the UK since last year when Farrage went on his deeply unpleasant offensive against them. Laugh? I nearly cried.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,641
    JBriskin said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    We Pragmatic Communists despise the Lada! (the newer Skodas we tolerate)

    Snotty!

    Looks like a draw in the footie...

    Indeed it is
    Arsenal 0 - 0 Besiktas
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,943
    1. It's interesting that Lord of the Rings, Star Wars and Harry Potter all contain important political, religious and social messages - These myth's are the new religions of the atheist age...

    2. In other news voters think The Pope is indeed Catholic.

    3. I thought "social conservatives" had gone to UKIP?

    4. This is The Middle East Peace Envoy's legacy.

    5. Yes!

    6. I'm "intensely relaxed" how about you?

    7. Boy George has done good - Too bad he's also utterly toxic with voters. (BTW BenM was hilarious earlier)

    8. Economically conservative and socially liberal is the way forward.

    9. U.N.I.T.E. is a very sinister organisation.

    10. Alex Salmond = Tricky Dicky Nixon?

    11. BBC and Labour eviscerated for a generation. Too bad Tricky Dicky Salmonds made such a hash of of it all...

    12. I can think of very few mental illnesses that would be caused to having a good nights sleep? One of the big problems with modern living is that most of us aren't sleeping enough (me included) because if distractions like TV, internet, street lighting and political betting websites.

    13. Greedy "$£&*!)^

    14. Sounds like something you get after smoking too many Jamaican Woodbines.

    15. Moving on...

    16. After the way Summers given way to Autumn by the middle of August all I can say is I want Global Warming back. Now!

    17. Too many tweets make a...

    18. Sam needs to take charge of Dave's wardrobe. I wonder whether they have their "leaving Downing St." attire ready yet?

    19. I don't think Elton would be a Kipper, but I suspect he would be a natural "economically Conservative, socially liberal Conservative". Or in other words he might quite like the Coalition.

    20. I wonder whether JackW remembers this? Not that I'm saying he's ancient or anything, but...
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    I've been yapping about the footie-

    FTR- 0 - 0

    We're all Byzantine's here surely??
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    JBriskin said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    We Pragmatic Communists despise the Lada! (the newer Skodas we tolerate)

    Snotty!

    Looks like a draw in the footie...

    Indeed it is
    Arsenal 0 - 0 Besiktas
    Well yes, you're right. I presumed you'd be better at the cricket results??
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Life_ina_market_town
    We think not, so we are waiting till the humans evolve enough to realise that "borders" only exist in the mind.
    Meantime , being a member of our party means basically getting drunk or stoned enough, to stave of the embarrassment of watching our fellow semi evolved apes telling us to be rational. While they run around with pointed sticks, like out of control four year olds
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    Israel: U/D Photo Gaza rocket has landed on road near Tel Aviv, no injuries pic.twitter.com/DtWzYcRgbv

    — Yiddish News (@YiddishNews) August 19, 2014
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,966
    Scott_P said:

    the English NHS budget, which is increasing by more than inflation.

    Only if you count the £3.9bn destined for the pot hole fund which i believe the Govt call the Better Care Fund as NHS money

    As the NHS has to give it to councils and is no longer ring fenced for health. It is a clever wheeze to transfer money out of the health budget whilst pretending not to.

    Same as changes to NHS vat rules a £1.5Bn transfer straight back to Treasury
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @bigjohnowls
    That's one of the other ingredients of the fairy dust that feeds the magic money tree, creative accounting.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Smarmeron said:

    @Life_ina_market_town
    We think not, so we are waiting till the humans evolve enough to realise that "borders" only exist in the mind.
    Meantime , being a member of our party means basically getting drunk or stoned enough, to stave of the embarrassment of watching our fellow semi evolved apes telling us to be rational. While they run around with pointed sticks, like out of control four year olds

    To be fair to you Smarmy - you don't even have the balls to type-

    "FT"

    -to this forum

  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,393
    1. The period coincides with the works of George Martin, Joe Abercrombie, Mark Lawrence, David Gemmell, and Richard Morgan, whose message seems a bit different.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,181
    The ingenuity that the Lib Dems spend on finding innovative ways of looking ridiculous could surely be better spent.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    FT to this forum? What is this FT of which you speak? The Financial Times?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Mr. L, you're confusing conscious effort with a natural gift.
  • Life_ina_market_townLife_ina_market_town Posts: 2,319
    edited August 2014
    Smarmeron said:

    @Life_ina_market_town
    We think not, so we are waiting till the humans evolve enough to realise that "borders" only exist in the mind.
    Meantime , being a member of our party means basically getting drunk or stoned enough, to stave of the embarrassment of watching our fellow semi evolved apes telling us to be rational. While they run around with pointed sticks, like out of control four year olds

    Interesting. The combination of social Darwinism and Marxism resembles the late Engles and the early, and still orthodox Kautsky. Then again, the stuff about borders existing 'only in the mind' (rather than being rooted in 'objective' conditions determined by the mode of production) and the pursuit of hedonistic intoxication, evokes the heresy of Marcuse in his later years, and McLuhan's nonsense about 'the global village'. "Pragmatic communism" thus appears a bizarre combination of "scientific socialism" and the ravings of the New Left in the 1960s that one rarely now finds outside a student common room.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Neil said:

    MikeK said:


    They all laughed at UKIP. Now they can apologise, but I bet they wont.

    There seems to be 15,000 more Romanians and Bulgarians working in the UK since last year when Farrage went on his deeply unpleasant offensive against them. Laugh? I nearly cried.
    The number of EU citizens in the UK increased by 187000 in 3 months this year: and you laugh? You are pathetic
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,359
    Smarmeron said:

    @Luckyguy1983
    Non payment on the due date is one of those things that power capitalism.
    Look it on it as part of the fairy dust that makes it grow.

    I'm afraid I don't follow.

  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @JBriskin
    And as a matter of interest, Where do you think borders exist?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    The cantankerous gnome seems likely to get his unqualified Aussie underling in place:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28849712

    "Her boss, the clerk of the Australian Senate, has said officials there viewed her potential UK appointment with "disbelief and dismay" because Ms Mills did not have the constitutional knowledge or expertise to replace Sir Robert.

    An investigation is also being carried out into the way Ms Mills's department used CCTV cameras to monitor the office of a senator.

    Conservative MP Michael Fabricant, a former vice-chairman of his party, questioned whether it was right to appoint a clerk who was "under investigation for a serious breach of parliamentary privilege"."

    *sighs*
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Glen Oglaza retweeted
    10m
    AFCOllie's avatar
    Ollie @AFCOllie
    Just when you think it can't get any worse Adrian Chiles starts talking.

    Clearly I am not in a minority of one!!
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Smarmeron said:

    FT to this forum? What is this FT of which you speak? The Financial Times?

    Yes,

    The first paywall as I understand.

  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    MikeK said:

    Neil said:

    MikeK said:


    They all laughed at UKIP. Now they can apologise, but I bet they wont.

    There seems to be 15,000 more Romanians and Bulgarians working in the UK since last year when Farrage went on his deeply unpleasant offensive against them. Laugh? I nearly cried.
    The number of EU citizens in the UK increased by 187000 in 3 months this year: and you laugh? You are pathetic
    You misunderstand. I wasnt laughing at the data. I was laughing at you. I cant help finding you funny!
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    And as a matter of interest, Where do you think borders exist?

    Origins here, I understand-


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    TCPoliticalBetting said:

    Easterross said:

    Evening all and when does the LibDem civil war start as its rampant feminists go to war on their leadership over Lord Rennard?

    Statements from the Lib Dems tonight. Are they a serious party? Does Farron not understand what he puts his name to? Anyone spot the problem with this new "gold standard"?

    "The suspension of Lord Rennard's membership of the Liberal Democrats has been lifted, after disciplinary proceedings against him were dropped." Overall statement

    "No one should ever have to feel that their concerns are being dismissed or ignored and I am clear that the Liberal Democrats should become the ‘gold standard’ for how voluntary organisations treat their members and staff."
    – Tim Fallon, party president
    *sighs*
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    edited August 2014
    @Luckyguy1983
    Non payment on the due date is a way of transferring money, usually from those lower down the "food" chain upwards.
    As an example, you don't pay up on time it normally costs you money, when multi nationals do it, it earns them money.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    corporeal said:

    TCPoliticalBetting said:

    Easterross said:

    Evening all and when does the LibDem civil war start as its rampant feminists go to war on their leadership over Lord Rennard?

    Statements from the Lib Dems tonight. Are they a serious party? Does Farron not understand what he puts his name to? Anyone spot the problem with this new "gold standard"?

    "The suspension of Lord Rennard's membership of the Liberal Democrats has been lifted, after disciplinary proceedings against him were dropped." Overall statement

    "No one should ever have to feel that their concerns are being dismissed or ignored and I am clear that the Liberal Democrats should become the ‘gold standard’ for how voluntary organisations treat their members and staff."
    – Tim Fallon, party president
    *sighs*
    Dont get too despondent - it's not as if Tim Farron might be your next leader after the GE.

    Oh.

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,181
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. L, you're confusing conscious effort with a natural gift.

    A fair point.

    Its frustrating in a way. Every time I think they might serve a useful function after all they come up with something like this.

    I really think the end may well be nigh for them as a national party. Their strength in Scotland after 2015 will be restricted to the very far north, their hold on the south west will be weakened, they face an increasing threat from UKIP as the NOTA party and a majority for either of the main parties means they will return to pointlessness and internal squabbles.

    Time to close the doors. I would be very surprised if some of the survivors do not jump ship in the next Parliament.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    YouGov is late. Grr.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Muqata ‏@Muqata 6m
    11:46pm Rocket alerts all over the South and Jerusalem. (Sorry for delay- Had to run to shelter) -GI Jane
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,966
    Where is Sun Politics YG tweet?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,842
    Perhaps, Mr. L.

    If Miliband becomes PM and is rubbish they might recover sooner than expected, once Clegg is ditched.

    Or they might sink forever beneath the waves.

    Anyway, I'm off for the night.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,943
    bigjohnowls said:

    Where is Sun Politics YG tweet?

    Wait about 30 secs...

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,966
    4 mins later than normal!!!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,997
    bigjohnowls said:

    Where is Sun Politics YG tweet?

    Danny565 said:

    YouGov is late. Grr.

    Patience ! It isn't 10 pm.

    Is now.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Pulpstar said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Where is Sun Politics YG tweet?

    Danny565 said:

    YouGov is late. Grr.

    Patience ! It isn't 10 pm.

    Is now.
    It's usually 9.55pm on the dot.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,756
    edited August 2014
    We're sad people, aren't we? - like standing around watching a kettle not boiling.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,369
    You're like a bunch of crack addicts waiting for your latest polling fix.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,966
    Booo TSE help
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,997
    NickPalmer said:

    We're sad people, aren't we? - like standing around watching a kettle not boiling.

    Off to cook my tea
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,756
    edited August 2014
    OK, let's guess. Down to 2 or 3, I predict.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Tuesday YouGov sounds about right to me.

    Apparently I do set me time by YouGov...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,943
    Well I don't know where it's got to.

    *tut*
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Yay! Rennard back live on ITV!

    SDP still alive.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,966
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    You're like a bunch of crack addicts waiting for your latest polling fix.

    Anyone get any polls

    Please life is not worth living without YG
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    edited August 2014
    @JBriskin
    You can draw as many lines on bits of paper you like, but if those that live there think they are in the wrong place or shouldn't be there, then your neat map is wrong.
    Sykes–Picot?
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