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  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376

    We're sad people, aren't we? - like standing around watching a kettle not boiling.

    At least you have an excuse given your career depends on this stuff...

    The rest of us are just sad.
  • Sunny Hundal ‏@sunny_hundal 44s

    ISIS have just released a video beheading photo-journalist James Foley. Its truly awful. And the executor has a British accent.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    I thought Monday was polling day. (?)
  • Last time this happened, turned out there had been a power cut at YouGov HQ earlier on in the day, and they weren't able to do the poll that day.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Apparently American freelance journalist, James Foley, has been beheaded by IS.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    GIN1138 said:

    We're sad people, aren't we? - like standing around watching a kettle not boiling.

    At least you have an excuse given your career depends on this stuff...

    The rest of us are just sad.
    Well, to be honest it doesn't depend on a YouGov on August 19. I'm just a member of Poll Addicts Anonymous like you.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    You can draw as many lines on bits of paper you like, but if those that live there think they are in the wrong place or shouldn't be there, then your neat map is wrong.
    Sykes–Picot?

    Don't have much to say to that.

    The map is not the territory - I bought an NLP book and they all get nicked from the libraries.

  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307

    Sunny Hundal ‏@sunny_hundal 44s

    ISIS have just released a video beheading photo-journalist James Foley. Its truly awful. And the executor has a British accent.

    Theres more than one execution video.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Tonights YG does not show EICIPM LAB 0 CON 0 LD 0 Others 0 (ukpr)
  • Obviously tonight's yougov has crossover, and the Sun are suppressing it, to protect the Union
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    While we wait here is Basil's favourite number sequence. Now that h1 figures for august are in we can add a 3 to the right hand end: 9 11 11 9 9 8 7 6 5 6 7 6 6 6 4 4 3 4 3 3

    No hint of a trend there. No, sirree.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @JBriskin
    A lot of blood has been spilled, and is being spilled, over those lines far away empires drew.
  • sshhhhh Lib Dems GE 2015 campaign slogan

    Lib Dems Groping Here!
  • JBriskin said:

    JBriskin said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    We Pragmatic Communists despise the Lada! (the newer Skodas we tolerate)

    Snotty!

    Looks like a draw in the footie...

    Indeed it is
    Arsenal 0 - 0 Besiktas
    Well yes, you're right. I presumed you'd be better at the cricket results??
    Cricket is even more boring :)
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Y0kel said:

    Sunny Hundal ‏@sunny_hundal 44s

    ISIS have just released a video beheading photo-journalist James Foley. Its truly awful. And the executor has a British accent.

    Theres more than one execution video.
    Perhaps Michael White might wish he hadn't written his piece on ISIS today.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/isis-islamic-state-threat-short-lived

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    Last time this happened, turned out there had been a power cut at YouGov HQ earlier on in the day, and they weren't able to do the poll that day.

    Bloody privatised energy companies!!!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,014
    The tension between a deep aversion in getting involved in the middle east in fights that it is beyond our capability to resolve and a deep desire to wipe ISIL off the face of the earth is really quite uncomfortable.

    Maybe we should just kill some of them to make ourselves feel better.
  • Carola said:

    Apparently American freelance journalist, James Foley, has been beheaded by IS.

    Second black kid shot dead by the police in Missouri.
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626

    JBriskin said:

    JBriskin said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    We Pragmatic Communists despise the Lada! (the newer Skodas we tolerate)

    Snotty!

    Looks like a draw in the footie...

    Indeed it is
    Arsenal 0 - 0 Besiktas
    Well yes, you're right. I presumed you'd be better at the cricket results??
    Cricket is even more boring :)
    Get thee to politics-home. Blasphemy!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376

    Tonights YG does not show EICIPM LAB 0 CON 0 LD 0 Others 0 (ukpr)

    LOL!

  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626

    Obviously tonight's yougov has crossover, and the Sun are suppressing it, to protect the Union

    Lolz
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,030
    18 - So what if blue is his favourite colour?
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    JBriskin said:

    JBriskin said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    We Pragmatic Communists despise the Lada! (the newer Skodas we tolerate)

    Snotty!

    Looks like a draw in the footie...

    Indeed it is
    Arsenal 0 - 0 Besiktas
    Well yes, you're right. I presumed you'd be better at the cricket results??
    Cricket is even more boring :)

    Ye know not of what ye speak :)
  • So you poll addicts can deal with it.

    There'll be no YouGov on Monday.

    Though there'll probably be some debate polling that night.
  • Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics 26s

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour has one-point lead: LAB 37%, CON 36%, UKIP 12%, LD 9%
    Expand
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics · 53 secs
    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour has one-point lead: LAB 37%, CON 36%, UKIP 12%, LD 9%

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376
    edited August 2014
    Oh.
  • Rennard
    "The worst that might be said of me in that report was that I may have inadvertently encroached on the personal space of some of the complainants, and I apologised for this to all four of them."

    Sorry for inadvertently concluding that we have a serial groper. Now go and vote for us in 9 months time.
  • So I was only a 1% swing away from being right.
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    The high profile killing of civilians or military prisoners for shock effect has been going on since whenever.

    None of of it should distract from the overall mission.

    As it is its just given the Whitehouse a tool if they want it. Foley by the way I think went missing in Syria.
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    RobD said:

    18 - So what if blue is his favourite colour?

    I noticed the other day that virtually all my tops are blue. Not by any conscious choice, but it just seemed to happen.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,014

    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics · 53 secs
    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour has one-point lead: LAB 37%, CON 36%, UKIP 12%, LD 9%

    Beaten by a whole 27 seconds. I trust you are suitably ashamed.

  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    GIN1138 said:

    We're sad people, aren't we? - like standing around watching a kettle not boiling.

    At least you have an excuse given your career depends on this stuff...

    The rest of us are just sad.
    Well, to be honest it doesn't depend on a YouGov on August 19. I'm just a member of Poll Addicts Anonymous like you.
    NPXMP. You are a former Communist aren't you?, I looked at your Wiki page the other day, and for some reason it makes no mention of it.
  • RobD said:

    18 - So what if blue is his favourite colour?

    I noticed the other day that virtually all my tops are blue. Not by any conscious choice, but it just seemed to happen.
    Sunil means "blue" :)
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    I stand corrected. They have a second guy Stephen Soltoff but have reportedly just paraded him with the threat that he'll be next.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Tonights YG LAB 327 CON 274 LD 23

    EICIPM

    Good night all
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Y0kel said:

    The high profile killing of civilians or military prisoners for shock effect has been going on since whenever.

    None of of it should distract from the overall mission.

    As it is its just given the Whitehouse a tool if they want it. Foley by the way I think went missing in Syria.


    Yes in 2012.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564



    NPXMP. You are a former Communist aren't you?, I looked at your Wiki page the other day, and for some reason it makes no mention of it.

    That's right, up to when I was 21. But I didn't write my Wikipedia page, and one isn't supposed to edit one's own stuff. You can add it if you like.

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376
    36% seems to be highest Conservative share in a YouGov poll since March;

    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/yougov-voting-intention
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Okay,

    My understanding-

    PB can influence (hubris!), Iraq, Israel/Palestine and Ukraine.

    Any comments??
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376
    I wear quite a lot of blue because it seems to suit me better than any other colour.

    Or so I've been told... ;)
  • Tom ‏@PBcorporeal 3m

    @YouGov poll now out, mass march on @Sun_Politics offices called off.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664



    NPXMP. You are a former Communist aren't you?, I looked at your Wiki page the other day, and for some reason it makes no mention of it.

    That's right, up to when I was 21. But I didn't write my Wikipedia page, and one isn't supposed to edit one's own stuff. You can add it if you like.

    You are a master of the retort courteous.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @JBriskin
    Of course it can. All the world leaders hang on our every post, and have it relayed to them by their aides.
    ( I prefer cash Mike, brown envelope please? )
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,014
    JBriskin said:

    Okay,

    My understanding-

    PB can influence (hubris!), Iraq, Israel/Palestine and Ukraine.

    Any comments??

    21 units for men and 14 for women. Per week. Maximum. Give it some thought.
  • Tories polling 1% below their GE score, and UKIP up 9%

    If those Con to Kipper switchers come back, Lab and Ed are screwed.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin
    Of course it can. All the world leaders hang on our every post, and have it relayed to them by their aides.
    ( I prefer cash Mike, brown envelope please? )

    Well, you commented, so well done - I was mainly watching the Arsenal game.

  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    edited August 2014



    NPXMP. You are a former Communist aren't you?, I looked at your Wiki page the other day, and for some reason it makes no mention of it.

    That's right, up to when I was 21. But I didn't write my Wikipedia page, and one isn't supposed to edit one's own stuff. You can add it if you like.

    I don't know the politics of Wikipedia ,I am sure you would arrange for an edit if it was to your advantage.
    I wouldn't have the first idea how to update a Wiki page, I just thought it an odd omission, but thank you for advising me.

  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    GIN1138 said:

    I wear quite a lot of blue because it seems to suit me better than any other colour.

    Or so I've been told... ;)

    It's quite hard to find nice stuff that isn't a shade of blue or features blue.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    DavidL said:

    JBriskin said:

    Okay,

    My understanding-

    PB can influence (hubris!), Iraq, Israel/Palestine and Ukraine.

    Any comments??

    21 units for men and 14 for women. Per week. Maximum. Give it some thought.
    Yes, well, I've been told to go to bed.

    Night all.

  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @JBriskin
    That's right, you mentioned earlier you had contracted "gunnerea" .....
    I'll get my coat?
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626

    Tories polling 1% below their GE score, and UKIP up 9%

    If those Con to Kipper switchers come back, Lab and Ed are screwed.

    The trend is your friend.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    Tories polling 1% below their GE score, and UKIP up 9%

    If those Con to Kipper switchers come back, Lab and Ed are screwed.

    CON 45% nailed on then.

    Surely you wouldnt put any money on that would you TSE?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,813
    Smarmeron said:

    @Luckyguy1983
    Non payment on the due date is a way of transferring money, usually from those lower down the "food" chain upwards.
    As an example, you don't pay up on time it normally costs you money, when multi nationals do it, it earns them money.

    Oh, quite. Not sure we can lay it all at the door of Adam Smith though.

  • Tories polling 1% below their GE score, and UKIP up 9%

    If those Con to Kipper switchers come back, Lab and Ed are screwed.

    CON 45% nailed on then.

    Surely you wouldnt put any money on that would you TSE?
    You need to understand the meaning of the word IF
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    Ishmael_X said:



    NPXMP. You are a former Communist aren't you?, I looked at your Wiki page the other day, and for some reason it makes no mention of it.

    That's right, up to when I was 21. But I didn't write my Wikipedia page, and one isn't supposed to edit one's own stuff. You can add it if you like.

    You are a master of the retort courteous.
    (smile) Well, the only reason it's known is that I've never made a secret of it. I discussed my background and outlook in much more detail in a blog to 7000 constituents 7 years ago:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BroxtoweMP/conversations/messages/472

    I don't think I'd change much in what I wrote then, though some of the references are a bit obscure now (funding scandal?).
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Tories polling 1% below their GE score, and UKIP up 9%

    If those Con to Kipper switchers come back, Lab and Ed are screwed.

    CON 45% nailed on then.

    Surely you wouldnt put any money on that would you TSE?
    9 11 11 9 9 8 7 6 5 6 7 6 6 6 4 4 3 4 3 3

    Nothing there to worry eicipm. Nothing in the world.
  • Tories polling 1% below their GE score, and UKIP up 9%

    If those Con to Kipper switchers come back, Lab and Ed are screwed.

    The trend is your friend.
    I hope so.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Luckyguy1983
    It predates Adam Smith by quite a margin, shortly after it was discovered lawyers crawled from the swamps and lost the fins on their backs.
    These creatures makes sure that the money flows in the right direction, after passing through their gills of course.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Ishmael_X said:

    While we wait here is Basil's favourite number sequence. Now that h1 figures for august are in we can add a 3 to the right hand end: 9 11 11 9 9 8 7 6 5 6 7 6 6 6 4 4 3 4 3 3

    No hint of a trend there. No, sirree.

    22 months seen a 6% tightening,

    So by June 2016 that would equate to a 3% Tory lead.

    Impressive!!! pity Ed will have been PM for 13 months by then.

    Last 8 months 3% tightening 8 months to GE 2015. EICIPM on that trend
  • Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics 26s

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour has one-point lead: LAB 37%, CON 36%, UKIP 12%, LD 9%
    Expand

    The combined support for these 4 parties totals 94%. Therefore there's only 6% remaining to share out among the Nats, Greens, BNP, Independents, Monster Ravers, Elvis Party, Uncle Tom Cobbley et al.
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    edited August 2014

    Ishmael_X said:

    While we wait here is Basil's favourite number sequence. Now that h1 figures for august are in we can add a 3 to the right hand end: 9 11 11 9 9 8 7 6 5 6 7 6 6 6 4 4 3 4 3 3

    No hint of a trend there. No, sirree.

    22 months seen a 6% tightening,

    So by June 2016 that would equate to a 3% Tory lead.

    Impressive!!! pity Ed will have been PM for 13 months by then.

    Last 8 months 3% tightening 8 months to GE 2015. EICIPM on that trend
    I'm sure the "PB Tories" were being warned of similar trends as the last GE was approaching, and a certain Tory landslide drifted inevitably to a hung-parliament. At this same stage out from the last Ge, what was the Tory lead in the polls? Doesn't it worry you that the Labour lead isn't significantly higher?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    Ishmael_X said:

    While we wait here is Basil's favourite number sequence. Now that h1 figures for august are in we can add a 3 to the right hand end: 9 11 11 9 9 8 7 6 5 6 7 6 6 6 4 4 3 4 3 3

    No hint of a trend there. No, sirree.

    22 months seen a 6% tightening,

    So by June 2016 that would equate to a 3% Tory lead.

    Impressive!!! pity Ed will have been PM for 13 months by then.

    Last 8 months 3% tightening 8 months to GE 2015. EICIPM on that trend
    I'm sure the "PB Tories" were being warned of similar trends as the last GE was approaching, and a certain Tory landslide drifted inevitably to a hung-parliament. At this same stage out from the last Ge, what was the Tory lead in the polls? Doesn't it worry you that the Labour lead isn't significantly higher?
    Yes think it will be very tight.

    Incidentally ICM July 2013 had LAB/CON level and Aug 2013 3% Lab lead

    ICM jULY and AUG 2014 -2 AND 7& Lab lead

    So not much of a trend

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Really good night now
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Ishmael_X said:

    While we wait here is Basil's favourite number sequence. Now that h1 figures for august are in we can add a 3 to the right hand end: 9 11 11 9 9 8 7 6 5 6 7 6 6 6 4 4 3 4 3 3

    No hint of a trend there. No, sirree.

    22 months seen a 6% tightening,

    So by June 2016 that would equate to a 3% Tory lead.

    Impressive!!! pity Ed will have been PM for 13 months by then.

    Last 8 months 3% tightening 8 months to GE 2015. EICIPM on that trend
    You live in a uniformitarian world in which either nothing changes (tonight's yougov equates exactly to next May's result) or change is strictly linear (this post). Try adding a bit of catastrophism, it makes things more fun and approximates more closely to what actually happens.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    36% is big for the Conservatives.

  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    Ishmael_X said:



    NPXMP. You are a former Communist aren't you?, I looked at your Wiki page the other day, and for some reason it makes no mention of it.

    That's right, up to when I was 21. But I didn't write my Wikipedia page, and one isn't supposed to edit one's own stuff. You can add it if you like.

    You are a master of the retort courteous.
    (smile) Well, the only reason it's known is that I've never made a secret of it. I discussed my background and outlook in much more detail in a blog to 7000 constituents 7 years ago:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BroxtoweMP/conversations/messages/472

    I don't think I'd change much in what I wrote then, though some of the references are a bit obscure now (funding scandal?).
    Creative inertia.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376
    edited August 2014
    If Con's can get to 37% they will be back to where they was before Boy George's 2012 Omnishambles Budget implosion.

    37% is THE number to look out for!
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    Pulpstar said:

    36% is big for the Conservatives.

    Don't worry, it will be lower in the next poll.

    Nothing is happening, nothing will happen until late Autumn.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376

    Pulpstar said:

    36% is big for the Conservatives.

    Don't worry, it will be lower in the next poll.

    Nothing is happening, nothing will happen until late Autumn.
    What do you think will happen in late autumn, out of interest?

  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    edited August 2014
    GIN1138 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    36% is big for the Conservatives.

    Don't worry, it will be lower in the next poll.

    Nothing is happening, nothing will happen until late Autumn.
    What do you think will happen in late autumn, out of interest?

    I expect the shift towards the Conservatives will start then, and proceed gently as the election approaches. However, it may not be enough to avoid Labour Most Seats.

    My estimate of probabilities:

    Lab Maj: Very unlikely. It could happen, but only if there is some game-changing event, such as Ed M ditching Balls in favour of Darling (assuming Darling wants the job, which I rather doubt).

    Con Maj: 20%

    Con-led government (which includes Con Maj): 50%.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376

    GIN1138 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    36% is big for the Conservatives.

    Don't worry, it will be lower in the next poll.

    Nothing is happening, nothing will happen until late Autumn.
    What do you think will happen in late autumn, out of interest?

    I expect the shift towards the Conservatives will start then, and proceed gently as the election approaches. However, it may not be enough to avoid Labour Most Seats.

    My estimate of probabilities:

    Lab Maj: Very unlikely. It could happen, but only if there is some game-changing event, such as Ed M ditching Balls in favour of Darling (assuming Darling wants the job, which I rather doubt).

    Con Maj: 20%

    Con-led government (which includes Con Maj): 50%.
    Thanks Richard.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Scotland’s Finance Minister has performed a “humiliating” about-turn and admitted the Bank of England held no discussions on the Nationalists’ plans for a currency union with an independent Scotland.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11044552/John-Swinney-admits-no-Bank-of-England-talks-over-currency-union.html
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    I thought the second debate couldn't go badly for Salmond like the first did, but with ammunition like this, who knows - particularly when his interlocutor is named after a character in Blackadder.

    There doesn't appear to be anything cunning about the Yes campaign
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    'Entirely possible' Scotland won't share pound after independence, Alex Salmond's top economist admits

    Crawford Beveridge, chair of the First Minister's Fiscal Commission Working Group, also says walking away from debt share will be seen as a 'default' by ratings agencies
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11044798/Entirely-possible-Scotland-wont-share-pound-after-independence-Alex-Salmonds-top-economist-admits.html
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    Have YouGov forgotten to update their site?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    GIN1138 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    36% is big for the Conservatives.

    Don't worry, it will be lower in the next poll.

    Nothing is happening, nothing will happen until late Autumn.
    What do you think will happen in late autumn, out of interest?

    There may be trouble ahead.......................

    and we may have ground frosts.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics 26s

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour has one-point lead: LAB 37%, CON 36%, UKIP 12%, LD 9%
    Expand

    The combined support for these 4 parties totals 94%. Therefore there's only 6% remaining to share out among the Nats, Greens, BNP, Independents, Monster Ravers, Elvis Party, Uncle Tom Cobbley et al.
    The BNP hardly exist anymore and the Greens won't get more than 3% because they probably won't contest half the seats.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Lord Rennard has suspension from Lib Dems lifted

    A Liberal Democrat spokesman said this brought the matter to a close.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28858533

    Glad to see the LibDems finally took my advice.

    They didn't have a leg to stand on, legally...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Here's a fact for people living in the United States to ponder:

    "Last year, in total, British police officers actually fired their weapons three times. The number of people fatally shot was zero. In 2012 the figure was just one".

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/08/armed-police

    Multiplying those numbers to take account of the US population being five times larger than the UK gives 15, 0 and 5 respectively.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    edited August 2014

    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics 26s

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour has one-point lead: LAB 37%, CON 36%, UKIP 12%, LD 9%
    Expand

    The combined support for these 4 parties totals 94%. Therefore there's only 6% remaining to share out among the Nats, Greens, BNP, Independents, Monster Ravers, Elvis Party, Uncle Tom Cobbley et al.
    6% is too low for "others"

    Guessing its more like Lab 36.6, Con 35.6, UKIP 11.6, LD 8.6 or some such tonight.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Missouri Unrest: 'Suspect' Shot Dead By Police

    A knife-wielding man is shot dead by Missouri police near the spot where an unarmed black teen was killed by an officer."

    http://news.sky.com/story/1321517/missouri-unrest-suspect-shot-dead-by-police
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    For all those PBers just worrying about polls, take a real hard look at whats coming your way unless it's stopped:

    Oh my god. Photojournalist James Foley was just beheaded by #ISIS in a video message to the US... pic.twitter.com/Y0wqezzJbX

    — Alejandro Alvarez (@aletweetsnews) August 19, 2014
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    RodCrosby said:

    Lord Rennard has suspension from Lib Dems lifted

    A Liberal Democrat spokesman said this brought the matter to a close.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28858533

    Glad to see the LibDems finally took my advice.

    They didn't have a leg to stand on, legally...
    Their legal case might have been less than robust - but the politics of this are awful. But I guess they can't sink much lower..
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138
    Lots of vindictive Tories posting here this evening. Can it be because the Lib Dems have started going up again in the polls?
  • MikeK said:

    For all those PBers just worrying about polls, take a real hard look at whats coming your way unless it's stopped:

    Oh my god. Photojournalist James Foley was just beheaded by #ISIS in a video message to the US... pic.twitter.com/Y0wqezzJbX

    — Alejandro Alvarez (@aletweetsnews) August 19, 2014

    Done by a man who has a London accent.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Talk about chutzpah -

    You don't get paid to play the Superbowl halftime show.

    It's the biggest concert you'll ever play.

    Rihanna, Katy Perry and Colfplay are under consideration - and there's a twist.

    The NFL wants them to 'pay to play'.

    Even for the money machine that is the NFL, that's a bit greedy.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844

    MikeK said:

    For all those PBers just worrying about polls, take a real hard look at whats coming your way unless it's stopped:

    Oh my god. Photojournalist James Foley was just beheaded by #ISIS in a video message to the US... pic.twitter.com/Y0wqezzJbX

    — Alejandro Alvarez (@aletweetsnews) August 19, 2014
    Done by a man who has a London accent.

    I cannot imagine how Foley's family must be feeling right now - let alone the terror going through the family of the other journalist being threatened by ISIS.

    And if one of the perpetrators is from London it really does show how dangerous extreme islamism is and how far it is reached.

    No religion or holy book can justify such acts - barbaric does not even come close.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    PClipp said:

    Lots of vindictive Tories posting here this evening. Can it be because the Lib Dems have started going up again in the polls?

    Dont make me laugh. Very soon there wont be a woman worth having in your party.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    RodCrosby said:

    Lord Rennard has suspension from Lib Dems lifted

    A Liberal Democrat spokesman said this brought the matter to a close.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28858533

    Glad to see the LibDems finally took my advice.

    They didn't have a leg to stand on, legally...
    Their legal case might have been less than robust - but the politics of this are awful.
    Only if you value witch-hunts more than you value natural justice...
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    RodCrosby said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Lord Rennard has suspension from Lib Dems lifted

    A Liberal Democrat spokesman said this brought the matter to a close.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28858533

    Glad to see the LibDems finally took my advice.

    They didn't have a leg to stand on, legally...
    Their legal case might have been less than robust - but the politics of this are awful.
    Only if you value witch-hunts more than you value natural justice...
    On this one, it is the women who have been denied natural justice. And that reflects badly on the Lib Dem leadership.

    Coming on top of their inability to deal with David Ward, it shows how weak they are.
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138
    No, Mike K. They´ll all have gone over to UKIP, and much too busy cleaning behind the fridges.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    PClipp said:

    No, Mike K. They´ll all have gone over to UKIP, and much too busy cleaning behind the fridges.

    We'll accept them with open arms, while you lot sink into oblivion.

    ....and now good night all.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,030
    Others are unusually low in tonight's YouGov at 6%.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Mr. Easterross, point of order: Byzantium can legitimately be considered Roman.

    Point of order, sir!

    There is no "legimately considered" qualification.

    The Roman Empire did not come to and end until 1453. For over 2,000 years they (including the Monarchy and the Republic) they bestrode the world like a Colossus.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    RodCrosby said:

    Lord Rennard has suspension from Lib Dems lifted

    A Liberal Democrat spokesman said this brought the matter to a close.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28858533

    Glad to see the LibDems finally took my advice.
    I expect they hang on your every word.....
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @RobD
    When will YouGov give us the stats? They only have the poll for the 18th up at the moment
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,030
    Smarmeron said:

    @RobD
    When will YouGov give us the stats? They only have the poll for the 18th up at the moment

    Not sure, it may be that Others are at 7%, due to rounding. I simply subtracted the share of the four parties from 100.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    RodCrosby said:

    Lord Rennard has suspension from Lib Dems lifted

    A Liberal Democrat spokesman said this brought the matter to a close.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28858533

    Glad to see the LibDems finally took my advice.

    They didn't have a leg to stand on, legally...
    Their legal case might have been less than robust - but the politics of this are awful. But I guess they can't sink much lower..
    It's the more or less inevitable fall-out of the party structures and the failures of a few years ago.

    Since then it's just been a case of waiting for the rest of the shoes to fall.
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