At 20% both Trump and Biden are value in the WH2024 betting – politicalbetting.com
At 20% both Trump and Biden are value in the WH2024 betting – politicalbetting.com
You might have to lock your cash up for just over three years but you could at current prices go into the November 2024 White House election with bets on the two main contenders at odds of 20% each.
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Both are value but Trump is clearly unhealthier than Biden. He is obese, has a terrible diet by all accounts and clearly doesn't exercise.0
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Don't want to seem picky but is 20% a standard way of stating odds unless you add "implied probability"? Is it even right? BE has B and T at 4.8 and 5 respectively, I thought 20% was equivalent to 6?0
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If these are Betfair prices, then 5 is 4/1 or 20 per cent.IshmaelZ said:Don't want to seem picky but is 20% a standard way of stating odds unless you add "implied probability"? Is it even right? BE has B and T at 4.8 and 5 respectively, I thought 20% was equivalent to 6?
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Don’t fancy it.0
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OT More than 24 hours after a mysterious foreign body in the eye and my vision is gradually returning to normal but it is not making it easier to patch everything in sight after Microsoft Patch Tuesday (yesterday) and new iOS updates from Apple.3
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None of the above.0
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Great headline in this logistics trade journal. Has TSE been moonlighting?
https://theloadstar.com/its-all-going-tits-up-at-uk-box-ports-and-despite-what-boris-says-we-cant-fix-it/0 -
More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
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I struggle to see it as 20% that Biden runs again, let alone that he wins again.0
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Did @ydoethur choose the name Loadstar?Foxy said:Great headline in this logistics trade journal. Has TSE been moonlighting?
https://theloadstar.com/its-all-going-tits-up-at-uk-box-ports-and-despite-what-boris-says-we-cant-fix-it/0 -
No.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Did @ydoethur choose the name Loadstar?Foxy said:Great headline in this logistics trade journal. Has TSE been moonlighting?
https://theloadstar.com/its-all-going-tits-up-at-uk-box-ports-and-despite-what-boris-says-we-cant-fix-it/
I would have chosen Unloadstar.5 -
Cue jokes about a return to normal service being where they don’t see anyone because they can’t be arsed.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/4 -
From reading this and @TonyConnelly on Twitter what's so funny is that the new EU proposal is moving down the lines of the risk-based proportionate checks for the GB-NI border which were put forth even under the May administration in 2018 and then comprehensively rejected by the EU in exchange of either full alignment or full border pedantry "to protect the single market":
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58871221
Turns out that was an option after all - funny that.7 -
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/2 -
And the view from the White HouseFoxy said:Great headline in this logistics trade journal. Has TSE been moonlighting?
https://theloadstar.com/its-all-going-tits-up-at-uk-box-ports-and-despite-what-boris-says-we-cant-fix-it/
https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/1447993677561929735?t=uffQ2tIdkQzrDNik4Z6jCA&s=190 -
Meanwhile prime minister Boris Johnson yesterday denied there was a crisis, but also said that the UK’s “world leading” logistics industry could fix it.Foxy said:Great headline in this logistics trade journal. Has TSE been moonlighting?
https://theloadstar.com/its-all-going-tits-up-at-uk-box-ports-and-despite-what-boris-says-we-cant-fix-it/
But one UK forwarder said the prime minster was “deranged”.
“Bob the builder, I am not,” he added.2 -
We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??1
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Let's face it, crashing a lorry in the current circumstances and proving himself unfit for duty as an HGV driver is the most effective opposition we have seen from him this year.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Reading through yesterday’s threads, good to see a mostly apolitical response with regard to the select committee report into the pandemic handling.
A few of the usual partisan jibes, and plenty of MSM trying to politisise it, but these enquiries really do need to be about understanding the processes that led to decisions, rather than trying to hold individuals accountable for anything other than egregious breaches of procedure.
Every country needs to learn their own lessons of the pandemic, in the same way as we learn from transport accident reports. Look globally at what worked (vaccines!) and what didn’t (PPE production and logistics, scale up of testing!), and invest now in planning for the next such event.3 -
You're wrongPhilip_Thompson said:I struggle to see it as 20% that Biden runs again, let alone that he wins again.
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To be completely honest, I would rather we focused on sorting out care homes or logistics right now, than spend a lot of senior government resource learning lessons from a global pandemic. This kind of event happens on average once a century or so, so any lessons learnt are likely to be long forgotten by the time it happens, and each event is distinctive so there is a danger of fighting the previous pandemic rather than the new one anyway.Sandpit said:Reading through yesterday’s threads, good to see a mostly apolitical response with regard to the select committee report into the pandemic handling.
A few of the usual partisan jibes, and plenty of MSM trying to politisise it, but these enquiries really do need to be about understanding the processes that led to decisions, rather than trying to hold individuals accountable for anything other than egregious breaches of procedure.
Every country needs to learn their own lessons of the pandemic, in the same way as we learn from transport accident reports. Look globally at what worked (vaccines!) and what didn’t (PPE production and logistics, scale up of testing!), and invest now in planning for the next such event.7 -
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Because he's being advised by the same people who told him to do a photo op in a carpet store.Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Write one then? Or just have a quick daily repetitive and boring moan about it instead......squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Economy still recovering fast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58894904
I suspect that those IMF projections reported in the FT today will look silly more quickly than normal.1 -
Where’s Boris?0
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I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/0 -
That’s true, certainly the majority of the resources of government are best deployed looking at today’s crisis, rather than yesterday’s.noneoftheabove said:
To be completely honest, I would rather we focused on sorting out care homes or logistics right now, than spend a lot of senior government resource learning lessons from a global pandemic. This kind of event happens on average once a century or so, so any lessons learnt are likely to be long forgotten by the time it happens, and each event is distinctive so there is a danger of fighting the previous pandemic rather than the new one anyway.Sandpit said:Reading through yesterday’s threads, good to see a mostly apolitical response with regard to the select committee report into the pandemic handling.
A few of the usual partisan jibes, and plenty of MSM trying to politisise it, but these enquiries really do need to be about understanding the processes that led to decisions, rather than trying to hold individuals accountable for anything other than egregious breaches of procedure.
Every country needs to learn their own lessons of the pandemic, in the same way as we learn from transport accident reports. Look globally at what worked (vaccines!) and what didn’t (PPE production and logistics, scale up of testing!), and invest now in planning for the next such event.
It is important to analyse how we could have done better in the pandemic though, it’s clear with hindsight that a lot of assumptions, about human behaviour rather than the virus itself, turned out to be incorrect. The next national emergency will probably not be another pandemic, but there will be plans we could update significantly with what we’ve learned in the past 20 months. Let’s not forget that an awful lot of people died, many lives were turned upside-down, and something like £600bn of public money has been spent. A formal public enquiry is definitely required, with a wide remit to look at how things happened and what might have been done differently.3 -
Though that article reports that July has been revised down from +0.1% to -0.1%DavidL said:Economy still recovering fast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58894904
I suspect that those IMF projections reported in the FT today will look silly more quickly than normal.0 -
Did you miss the last thread? It headlined Labour's poor polling and discussed the allegory of Starmer crashing after declining advice to turn left.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Good morning, everyone.
Mr. Jonathan, to be fair, I find it hard to believe the country will suffer greatly by the absence of Boris Johnson. Indeed, if we add another 51 weeks of holiday to the one he's currently enjoying, it'd improve things substantially.5 -
That was my immediate thought too. It tends to suggest to me that there is some particular reason why the insurers are not willing to cover those doctors anymore which really must be some sort of clinical issue, despite their statement.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/0 -
True, but we are still on target to get to 2019 GDP levels by the end of the year.Foxy said:
Though that article reports that July has been revised down from +0.1% to -0.1%DavidL said:Economy still recovering fast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58894904
I suspect that those IMF projections reported in the FT today will look silly more quickly than normal.0 -
Oh. So definitely a ‘story’ behind the closure then.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/
Is there a difference between medical malpractice insurance, and the sort of public liability insurance that covers someone tripping over a step and losing income because they’re off work for a month?0 -
How many weeks off do you think people should be allowed? I thought the legal minimum was about five.Jonathan said:2 -
Do you not anticipate that the Labour shortages and logistics logjam are going to be a drag on growth?DavidL said:
True, but we are still on target to get to 2019 GDP levels by the end of the year.Foxy said:
Though that article reports that July has been revised down from +0.1% to -0.1%DavidL said:Economy still recovering fast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58894904
I suspect that those IMF projections reported in the FT today will look silly more quickly than normal.0 -
The Resolution scheme covers everyone in the Practice doing NHS work, so not just medical negligence. Buildings insurance isn't hard to fix for public liability though, and if there was a specific issue with one building, why close all 4?Sandpit said:
Oh. So definitely a ‘story’ behind the closure then.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/
Is there a difference between medical malpractice insurance, and the sort of public liability insurance that covers someone tripping over a step and losing income because they’re off work for a month?2 -
Yes, but growth is measured against the previous year base and these problems will be less than we were having last year so growth will seem pretty strong this year. If we can sort out the logistics in particular (and we are far from alone in that) I think that will also mean that next year will be better than this giving us quite high growth then too. After that it may get a bit trickier.Foxy said:
Do you not anticipate that the Labour shortages and logistics logjam are going to be a drag on growth?DavidL said:
True, but we are still on target to get to 2019 GDP levels by the end of the year.Foxy said:
Though that article reports that July has been revised down from +0.1% to -0.1%DavidL said:Economy still recovering fast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58894904
I suspect that those IMF projections reported in the FT today will look silly more quickly than normal.1 -
The idea that you still get paid when not working is really quite remarkable when you think about it. Doesn't apply to me of course.Gallowgate said:0 -
Yes, this year's figures include a lot of bounce back, so hard to make sense of.DavidL said:
Yes, but growth is measured against the previous year base and these problems will be less than we were having last year so growth will seem pretty strong this year. If we can sort out the logistics in particular (and we are far from alone in that) I think that will also mean that next year will be better than this giving us quite high growth then too. After that it may get a bit trickier.Foxy said:
Do you not anticipate that the Labour shortages and logistics logjam are going to be a drag on growth?DavidL said:
True, but we are still on target to get to 2019 GDP levels by the end of the year.Foxy said:
Though that article reports that July has been revised down from +0.1% to -0.1%DavidL said:Economy still recovering fast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58894904
I suspect that those IMF projections reported in the FT today will look silly more quickly than normal.
Falling consumer confidence and PMIs don't look great though for major growth, and we do have quite a bit of fiscal tightening being dished up shortly.0 -
It also sounds like it’s capacity - so may be one doctor and they can’t find a locum?DavidL said:
That was my immediate thought too. It tends to suggest to me that there is some particular reason why the insurers are not willing to cover those doctors anymore which really must be some sort of clinical issue, despite their statement.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/0 -
Well it induced you to comment.. . Some of the people on here are so one eyed, it does no harm to point out that a lot of the criticism is pure bile and based on ideological loathing rather than substantive criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Write one then? Or just have a quick daily repetitive and boring moan about it instead......squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
It does no harm to point out that Starmer is ffing useless and leading an utterly divided party. Didn't he have a real car crash recently as well as the political ones.0 -
I suspect that switches cause and effect around, they're a symptom of high growth. They're growing pains.Foxy said:
Do you not anticipate that the Labour shortages and logistics logjam are going to be a drag on growth?DavidL said:
True, but we are still on target to get to 2019 GDP levels by the end of the year.Foxy said:
Though that article reports that July has been revised down from +0.1% to -0.1%DavidL said:Economy still recovering fast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58894904
I suspect that those IMF projections reported in the FT today will look silly more quickly than normal.
If we weren't growing, there'd be unemployment instead.0 -
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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That’s a little bit of an unfair way to describe his time in ICUNorthern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Is there a Starmer supporter on here? Even the loyalists have him as uninspiring, dull and wooden, albeit worthy, and the harshest vitriol comes from the few Corbynites.squareroot2 said:
Well it induced you to comment.. . Some of the people on here are so one eyed, it does no harm to point out that a lot of the criticism is pure bile and based on ideological loathing rather than substantive criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Write one then? Or just have a quick daily repetitive and boring moan about it instead......squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
It does no harm to point out that Starmer is ffing useless and leading an utterly divided party. Didn't he have a real car crash recently as well as the political ones.
It's not as if PB is a hymn of praise for the LOTO!
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In which case, their public statement about the closure being insurance-related is, erm, untrue.Charles said:
It also sounds like it’s capacity - so may be one doctor and they can’t find a locum?DavidL said:
That was my immediate thought too. It tends to suggest to me that there is some particular reason why the insurers are not willing to cover those doctors anymore which really must be some sort of clinical issue, despite their statement.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/
Watching from afar, one gets the impression that a number of GP practices are taking the piss, and appear to be very difficult to hold to account.1 -
Pots and kettles and all that. Sure you have no bile or ideological loathing of Starmer, and it is all substantive criticism, like how good a driver he is.squareroot2 said:
Well it induced you to comment.. . Some of the people on here are so one eyed, it does no harm to point out that a lot of the criticism is pure bile and based on ideological loathing rather than substantive criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Write one then? Or just have a quick daily repetitive and boring moan about it instead......squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
It does no harm to point out that Starmer is ffing useless and leading an utterly divided party. Didn't he have a real car crash recently as well as the political ones.1 -
TeaJonathan said:
That's because they are too busy spitting bile about Boris.Foxy said:
Is there a Starmer supporter on here? Even the loyalists have him as uninspiring, dull and wooden, albeit worthy, and the harshest vitriol comes from the few Corbynites.squareroot2 said:
Well it induced you to comment.. . Some of the people on here are so one eyed, it does no harm to point out that a lot of the criticism is pure bile and based on ideological loathing rather than substantive criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Write one then? Or just have a quick daily repetitive and boring moan about it instead......squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
It does no harm to point out that Starmer is ffing useless and leading an utterly divided party. Didn't he have a real car crash recently as well as the political ones.
It's not as if PB is a hymn of praise for the LOTO!0 -
Legal minimum is 28 days including bank holidays or 4 weeks plus bank holidaysGallowgate said:
Whether you get a 29th day off next year for the Jubilee would depend on the exact terms of your contract as it isn't automatic.1 -
When you work at the high octane pace of Boris, you need multiple luxury subsidised holidays.1
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The logistics issues will likely spread the bounce-back over a longer period, rather than substantially reduce the size of it.DavidL said:
Yes, but growth is measured against the previous year base and these problems will be less than we were having last year so growth will seem pretty strong this year. If we can sort out the logistics in particular (and we are far from alone in that) I think that will also mean that next year will be better than this giving us quite high growth then too. After that it may get a bit trickier.Foxy said:
Do you not anticipate that the Labour shortages and logistics logjam are going to be a drag on growth?DavidL said:
True, but we are still on target to get to 2019 GDP levels by the end of the year.Foxy said:
Though that article reports that July has been revised down from +0.1% to -0.1%DavidL said:Economy still recovering fast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58894904
I suspect that those IMF projections reported in the FT today will look silly more quickly than normal.
There will be some losses on ‘seasonal’ goods not arriving on time, and companies with manufacturing issues on things like cars and computers are going to recover more slowly (I still can’t get a PS5, grr!).
Once the pent-up demand has worked through, we could be looking at a couple of years of flat growth at best - which is why I’d be betting on a 2023 election rather than 2024. Likely late ‘23, once the new boundaries have gone through.0 -
Well I was wondering if - say - 1 out of 4 doctors is the issue in that s/he can’t get insurance…Sandpit said:
In which case, their public statement about the closure being insurance-related is, erm, untrue.Charles said:
It also sounds like it’s capacity - so may be one doctor and they can’t find a locum?DavidL said:
That was my immediate thought too. It tends to suggest to me that there is some particular reason why the insurers are not willing to cover those doctors anymore which really must be some sort of clinical issue, despite their statement.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/
Watching from afar, one gets the impression that a number of GP practices are taking the piss, and appear to be very difficult to hold to account.
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It's funny you mention that.Foxy said:Great headline in this logistics trade journal. Has TSE been moonlighting?
https://theloadstar.com/its-all-going-tits-up-at-uk-box-ports-and-despite-what-boris-says-we-cant-fix-it/
In one of our economic briefings (written by the female of the species) she wrote this very topic with the observation that 'we all know the dangers of when you have a massive load that you need to empty and nowhere and no one to help you unload it.'0 -
That's clearly not what I meant. But he is forever donning hi-viz jackets, visiting all sorts of places including hospitals, and distracting people from their work. It just seems a bit rum to criticise Starmer for doing a bit of the same.Charles said:
That’s a little bit of an unfair way to describe his time in ICUNorthern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Yes, that is an important point. Apart from a few Corbynistas feelings against Starmer are that he is insipid, and lacklustre, while against Johnson they are passionate loathing. Certainly Mrs Foxy on the subject of the sack of spuds that we have as PM gives me earache.squareroot2 said:
TeaJonathan said:
That's because they are too busy spitting bile about Boris.Foxy said:
Is there a Starmer supporter on here? Even the loyalists have him as uninspiring, dull and wooden, albeit worthy, and the harshest vitriol comes from the few Corbynites.squareroot2 said:
Well it induced you to comment.. . Some of the people on here are so one eyed, it does no harm to point out that a lot of the criticism is pure bile and based on ideological loathing rather than substantive criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Write one then? Or just have a quick daily repetitive and boring moan about it instead......squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
It does no harm to point out that Starmer is ffing useless and leading an utterly divided party. Didn't he have a real car crash recently as well as the political ones.
It's not as if PB is a hymn of praise for the LOTO!
That loathing will be quite some motivation to GOTV, and will be up against half heartedness at best about Starmer.
I don't see his lack of HGV skills particularly the issue. Didn't he knock over a cyclist a year or so ago too? The sooner he gets a government driver the better...2 -
And yet negative feelings towards Boris are still a minority in the population - and a not insignificant proportion of that won't go to Labour.Foxy said:
Yes, that is an important point. Apart from a few Corbynistas feelings against Starmer are that he is insipid, and lacklustre, while against Johnson they are passionate loathing. Certainly Mrs Foxy on the subject of the sack of spuds that we have as PM gives me earache.squareroot2 said:
TeaJonathan said:
That's because they are too busy spitting bile about Boris.Foxy said:
Is there a Starmer supporter on here? Even the loyalists have him as uninspiring, dull and wooden, albeit worthy, and the harshest vitriol comes from the few Corbynites.squareroot2 said:
Well it induced you to comment.. . Some of the people on here are so one eyed, it does no harm to point out that a lot of the criticism is pure bile and based on ideological loathing rather than substantive criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Write one then? Or just have a quick daily repetitive and boring moan about it instead......squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
It does no harm to point out that Starmer is ffing useless and leading an utterly divided party. Didn't he have a real car crash recently as well as the political ones.
It's not as if PB is a hymn of praise for the LOTO!
That loathing will be quite some motivation to GOTV, and will be up against half heartedness at best about Starmer.
I don't see his lack of HGV skills particularly the issue. Didn't he knock over a cyclist a year or so ago too? The sooner he gets a government driver the better...
Simply "not being him" isn't enough.1 -
I’ll happily critisise any and all politicians who are getting in the way of dealing with an emergency. Nothing worse than a disaster recovery team having to deal with ‘VIP’ idiots turning up to have their photos taken, using up significant amounts of senior human resource and often disturbing the work being done.Northern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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He exceeded that in Januaryeek said:
Legal minimum is 28 days including bank holidays or 4 weeks plus bank holidaysGallowgate said:
Whether you get a 29th day off next year for the Jubilee would depend on the exact terms of your contract as it isn't automatic.0 -
A bit of a bizarre decision to have put them in charge of NHS commissioning then. Another resounding success of the Cameron Ministry.Sandpit said:
In which case, their public statement about the closure being insurance-related is, erm, untrue.Charles said:
It also sounds like it’s capacity - so may be one doctor and they can’t find a locum?DavidL said:
That was my immediate thought too. It tends to suggest to me that there is some particular reason why the insurers are not willing to cover those doctors anymore which really must be some sort of clinical issue, despite their statement.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/
Watching from afar, one gets the impression that a number of GP practices are taking the piss, and appear to be very difficult to hold to account.2 -
I know… just having a bit of fun 😜Northern_Al said:
That's clearly not what I meant. But he is forever donning hi-viz jackets, visiting all sorts of places including hospitals, and distracting people from their work. It just seems a bit rum to criticise Starmer for doing a bit of the same.Charles said:
That’s a little bit of an unfair way to describe his time in ICUNorthern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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F1: Hmm. Wondering if Hamilton at 2.25 for the title might now be value.
Mercedes looked quite a bit ahead of the Red Bull in Istanbul.1 -
LOL , he had a spoonful of oxygen and staff dancing around catering to his every whim. he was in and out in a few days and every one of them showed him smiling etc. Give us a break.Charles said:
That’s a little bit of an unfair way to describe his time in ICUNorthern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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It’s a two horse race, and there’s a short head in it with a furlong to run. Bet on whichever is odds-against at any point in time.Morris_Dancer said:F1: Hmm. Wondering if Hamilton at 2.25 for the title might now be value.
Mercedes looked quite a bit ahead of the Red Bull in Istanbul.0 -
Christian Horner's moaning this weekend confirmed to me that Mercedes have got this in the bag.Morris_Dancer said:F1: Hmm. Wondering if Hamilton at 2.25 for the title might now be value.
Mercedes looked quite a bit ahead of the Red Bull in Istanbul.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58870237
To paraphrase a famous F1 quote 'Hamilton is quicker than you.'2 -
Any evidence to back that up? All the reports suggest he was in a serious condition.malcolmg said:
LOL , he had a spoonful of oxygen and staff dancing around catering to his every whim. he was in and out in a few days and every one of them showed him smiling etc. Give us a break.Charles said:
That’s a little bit of an unfair way to describe his time in ICUNorthern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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The website linked above shows ten doctors spread over four surgeries. However, the earnings declaration gives the average salary as only £53,000 which suggests an awful lot of part-timers, in fact 2 full-time and 16 part-time, so maybe there are scheduling issues if no-one fancies Friday afternoon at the wrong end of town, say.Charles said:
It also sounds like it’s capacity - so may be one doctor and they can’t find a locum?DavidL said:
That was my immediate thought too. It tends to suggest to me that there is some particular reason why the insurers are not willing to cover those doctors anymore which really must be some sort of clinical issue, despite their statement.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/our-staff
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/gp-earnings
ETA we talked the other day about the increasing number of doctors opting for part-time work, and gap years during training.
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No, I don't think so either which is why I am on Con majority next election.Philip_Thompson said:
And yet negative feelings towards Boris are still a minority in the population - and a not insignificant proportion of that won't go to Labour.Foxy said:
Yes, that is an important point. Apart from a few Corbynistas feelings against Starmer are that he is insipid, and lacklustre, while against Johnson they are passionate loathing. Certainly Mrs Foxy on the subject of the sack of spuds that we have as PM gives me earache.squareroot2 said:
TeaJonathan said:
That's because they are too busy spitting bile about Boris.Foxy said:
Is there a Starmer supporter on here? Even the loyalists have him as uninspiring, dull and wooden, albeit worthy, and the harshest vitriol comes from the few Corbynites.squareroot2 said:
Well it induced you to comment.. . Some of the people on here are so one eyed, it does no harm to point out that a lot of the criticism is pure bile and based on ideological loathing rather than substantive criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Write one then? Or just have a quick daily repetitive and boring moan about it instead......squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
It does no harm to point out that Starmer is ffing useless and leading an utterly divided party. Didn't he have a real car crash recently as well as the political ones.
It's not as if PB is a hymn of praise for the LOTO!
That loathing will be quite some motivation to GOTV, and will be up against half heartedness at best about Starmer.
I don't see his lack of HGV skills particularly the issue. Didn't he knock over a cyclist a year or so ago too? The sooner he gets a government driver the better...
Simply "not being him" isn't enough.
Though we are probably 2 years away from finding out. An autumn election in 2023 sounds increasingly likely.1 -
Incidentally, I don't think Starmer's lorry-manoeuvre mishap is necessarily a negative for him. It's got him lots of publicity. It wouldn't have been mentioned in the media or on here were it not for the error. All publicity and all that.... If he's smart (yes, I know), he should think of a good gag about it before his next media interview or HoC appearance. Boris will raise it, no doubt. He can probably contrast his mishap with Boris's absence in a paid-for villa well out of the financial reach of red-wall voters. Or something like that.0
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An obese fiftysomething with covid needing a couple of days of CPAP and fluids sounds kosher to me. I think he needed the treatment.RobD said:
Any evidence to back that up? All the reports suggest he was in a serious condition.malcolmg said:
LOL , he had a spoonful of oxygen and staff dancing around catering to his every whim. he was in and out in a few days and every one of them showed him smiling etc. Give us a break.Charles said:
That’s a little bit of an unfair way to describe his time in ICUNorthern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Yep, there’s a 36 point gap in the more important championship, which Mr Horner is trying to play down but is what determines the prize money at the end of the season. Mercedes have got it, and will probably win both titles again.TheScreamingEagles said:
Christian Horner's moaning this weekend confirmed to me that Mercedes have got this in the bag.Morris_Dancer said:F1: Hmm. Wondering if Hamilton at 2.25 for the title might now be value.
Mercedes looked quite a bit ahead of the Red Bull in Istanbul.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58870237
To paraphrase a famous F1 quote 'Hamilton is quicker than you.'
Oh, and FPT - if you need to work with your personal laptop, and don’t fancy showing your colleagues your desktop or browsing history, then create a new user account you numpty!0 -
Yes, it demonstrates reversing an HGV is quite a skill, even under supervision.Northern_Al said:Incidentally, I don't think Starmer's lorry-manoeuvre mishap is necessarily a negative for him. It's got him lots of publicity. It wouldn't have been mentioned in the media or on here were it not for the error. All publicity and all that....
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I was thinking about writing a header comparing Sir Keir’s Labour’s performance in By Elections with that of previous Labour leaders - it fascinates me that he has overseen their worst ever vote share in Hartlepool, C&A and B&S, real voters not voting for him at the first chance they get after the awful Jezza, but it’s not really seen as a big deal by anyone else
Anyway, looking at wiki, I was surprised to see the cause of Jim Dobbin’s death - looks like he got extremely drunk at an official dinner in Poland, and choked on his food. I was very interested in the subsequent by election in Heywood & Middleton - backed UKIP at 14/1 I think, and they lost by 627 votes - but hadn’t noticed that
It was the same day as Douglas Carswell’s Clacton by election, and UKIP probably focussed too much on that one, which turned out to be an easy win, and didn’t take H&M seriously enough. The original price in Clacton was 4/6 UKIP which I couldn’t get a penny on, but was massive value
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Dobbin0 -
Fair enough. I'll look forward to seeing your trenchant criticism of Boris next time he dons his hi-viz jacket and turns up at a flood scene or something similar.Sandpit said:
I’ll happily critisise any and all politicians who are getting in the way of dealing with an emergency. Nothing worse than a disaster recovery team having to deal with ‘VIP’ idiots turning up to have their photos taken, using up significant amounts of senior human resource and often disturbing the work being done.Northern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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He would undoubtedly be criticised for not donning a hi-viz jacket and visiting the scene. Probably by an opposition politician donning a hi-viz jacket visiting the scene.Northern_Al said:
Fair enough. I'll look forward to seeing your trenchant criticism of Boris next time he dons his hi-viz jacket and turns up at a flood scene or something similar.Sandpit said:
I’ll happily critisise any and all politicians who are getting in the way of dealing with an emergency. Nothing worse than a disaster recovery team having to deal with ‘VIP’ idiots turning up to have their photos taken, using up significant amounts of senior human resource and often disturbing the work being done.Northern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Most people can't reverse park very easily so maybe he wins points for relatability or something?Northern_Al said:Incidentally, I don't think Starmer's lorry-manoeuvre mishap is necessarily a negative for him. It's got him lots of publicity. It wouldn't have been mentioned in the media or on here were it not for the error. All publicity and all that.... If he's smart (yes, I know), he should think of a good gag about it before his next media interview or HoC appearance. Boris will raise it, no doubt. He can probably contrast his mishap with Boris's absence in a paid-for villa well out of the financial reach of red-wall voters. Or something like that.
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Nope, but I support it.tlg86 said:
They have absolutely no-one to blame but themselves for its creation.1 -
When important politicians don’t turn up at flood scenes and the like, their critics all scream “Where’s Boris?!?!” “Missing In Action” etcNorthern_Al said:
Fair enough. I'll look forward to seeing your trenchant criticism of Boris next time he dons his hi-viz jacket and turns up at a flood scene or something similar.Sandpit said:
I’ll happily critisise any and all politicians who are getting in the way of dealing with an emergency. Nothing worse than a disaster recovery team having to deal with ‘VIP’ idiots turning up to have their photos taken, using up significant amounts of senior human resource and often disturbing the work being done.Northern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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It’ll be there!Northern_Al said:
Fair enough. I'll look forward to seeing your trenchant criticism of Boris next time he dons his hi-viz jacket and turns up at a flood scene or something similar.Sandpit said:
I’ll happily critisise any and all politicians who are getting in the way of dealing with an emergency. Nothing worse than a disaster recovery team having to deal with ‘VIP’ idiots turning up to have their photos taken, using up significant amounts of senior human resource and often disturbing the work being done.Northern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
I work in IT, and there’s nothing worse than having to deal with the senior management looking over your shoulder as you try and work out why that server just crashed. I feel the same way about the fire service and army units that have to deal with floods, when half the top brass and a minister or two turn up to get in the way for their own benefit.3 -
Most people wouldn't dream of attempting to reverse park an HGV.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Most people can't reverse park very easily so maybe he wins points for relatability or something?Northern_Al said:Incidentally, I don't think Starmer's lorry-manoeuvre mishap is necessarily a negative for him. It's got him lots of publicity. It wouldn't have been mentioned in the media or on here were it not for the error. All publicity and all that.... If he's smart (yes, I know), he should think of a good gag about it before his next media interview or HoC appearance. Boris will raise it, no doubt. He can probably contrast his mishap with Boris's absence in a paid-for villa well out of the financial reach of red-wall voters. Or something like that.
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One of the practical issues is that while partners get paid more, filling those posts is getting harder. People just don't want the hassles that go with it. Only 2 full tumers in a team of 18 must be difficult.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The website linked above shows ten doctors spread over four surgeries. However, the earnings declaration gives the average salary as only £53,000 which suggests an awful lot of part-timers, in fact 2 full-time and 16 part-time, so maybe there are scheduling issues if no-one fancies Friday afternoon at the wrong end of town, say.Charles said:
It also sounds like it’s capacity - so may be one doctor and they can’t find a locum?DavidL said:
That was my immediate thought too. It tends to suggest to me that there is some particular reason why the insurers are not willing to cover those doctors anymore which really must be some sort of clinical issue, despite their statement.Foxy said:
I don't think that explains it. Cover is free for the practice, universal and doesn't need to be applied for:Sandpit said:
Of much more interest, would be exactly why their insurance ‘lapsed’. Either they’ve no money to pay the renewal, or there was a good reason for the quote being a lot higher than they might have expected - such as a claim or claims made against it. If it were simply an administrative error, it could be solved in hours and without needing to issue statements to the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:More OT medical news.
The Telegraph has found a GP practice that is temporarily closed because its public liability insurance has lapsed. The Telegraph is paywalled but here is the doctors' website:-
The Blandford Group Practice has had to make the difficult decision to temporarily postpone non-urgent routine appointments due to a lapse in public liability insurance.
Our team are working extremely hard to put measures in place to allow services to return to normal at the earliest opportunity, this includes the weekend vaccination clinics.
We would like to reassure patients that this is an insurance issue and not a clinical care issue.
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/
https://resolution.nhs.uk/services/claims-management/clinical-schemes/general-practice-indemnity/clinical-negligence-scheme-for-general-practice/
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/our-staff
https://www.theblandfordgrouppractice.co.uk/gp-earnings
ETA we talked the other day about the increasing number of doctors opting for part-time work, and gap years during training.
I think one common feature with the HGV issue is that a lot of folk have found out during lockdowns that they like more time at home, and the pleasures therein. No point in thrashing yourself to an early grave chasing a few consumer baubles, take it easy and cut your hours even at the expense of pay.2 -
It's all about context.isam said:I was thinking about writing a header comparing Sir Keir’s Labour’s performance in By Elections with that of previous Labour leaders - it fascinates me that he has overseen their worst ever vote share in Hartlepool, C&A and B&S, real voters not voting for him at the first chance they get after the awful Jezza, but it’s not really seen as a big deal by anyone else
Anyway, looking at wiki, I was surprised to see the cause of Jim Dobbin’s death - looks like he got extremely drunk at an official dinner in Poland, and choked on his food. I was very interested in the subsequent by election in Heywood & Middleton - backed UKIP at 14/1 I think, and they lost by 627 votes - but hadn’t noticed that
It was the same day as Douglas Carswell’s Clacton by election, and UKIP probably focussed too much on that one, which turned out to be an easy win, and didn’t take H&M seriously enough. The original price in Clacton was 4/6 UKIP which I couldn’t get a penny on, but was massive value
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Dobbin
Labour polled 2% and 2.7% in the Newbury & Christchurch by elections in 1993, the latter where their vote fell by 9.4% didn't stop them winning a landslide in 1997.
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Unfortunately politicians of all stripes get hammered if they don’t turn up at these things in a high viz…..Northern_Al said:
Fair enough. I'll look forward to seeing your trenchant criticism of Boris next time he dons his hi-viz jacket and turns up at a flood scene or something similar.Sandpit said:
I’ll happily critisise any and all politicians who are getting in the way of dealing with an emergency. Nothing worse than a disaster recovery team having to deal with ‘VIP’ idiots turning up to have their photos taken, using up significant amounts of senior human resource and often disturbing the work being done.Northern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
Flood or other disaster, natural or man-made, they need to turn up at the insistence of the media and vox-pops of idiots saying “why isn’t Boris here seeing the flooding, he doesn’t care about us”….. it’s ridiculous.
I seem to remember exactly this last time there was major flooding.
Would prefer a PM to say “I’m not turning up at future disasters in person because if I do I’m followed by fifty minders and journalists and get in the way of the police and emergency services who can actually do something about the situation on site whereas I can’t”….2 -
"Look, we can't just train prannocks like me to drive tankers full of fuel overnight, no matter how many time Philip says we can"DavidL said:
Let's face it, crashing a lorry in the current circumstances and proving himself unfit for duty as an HGV driver is the most effective opposition we have seen from him this year.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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I hold no pen for Boris and I really don't understand why we seem to begrudge all PMs a holiday.
I remember Tony Blair and David Cameron getting similar criticism, or taking the mick out of Theresa May for the modest Swiss walking trips.
I wasn't impressed by Gordon Brown always working either, and look what happened to him.4 -
Northern_Al said:
Fair enough. I'll look forward to seeing your trenchant criticism of Boris next time he dons his hi-viz jacket and turns up at a flood scene or something similar.Sandpit said:
I’ll happily critisise any and all politicians who are getting in the way of dealing with an emergency. Nothing worse than a disaster recovery team having to deal with ‘VIP’ idiots turning up to have their photos taken, using up significant amounts of senior human resource and often disturbing the work being done.Northern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
And you will be the first to criticise him if he doesnt..Northern_Al said:
Fair enough. I'll look forward to seeing your trenchant criticism of Boris next time he dons his hi-viz jacket and turns up at a flood scene or something similar.Sandpit said:
I’ll happily critisise any and all politicians who are getting in the way of dealing with an emergency. Nothing worse than a disaster recovery team having to deal with ‘VIP’ idiots turning up to have their photos taken, using up significant amounts of senior human resource and often disturbing the work being done.Northern_Al said:
Yes, of course Boris has never taken up the time of valuable resources, such as in the NHS, through publicity stunts, has he?Sandpit said:
More to the point, why was he using up the valuable resource of a lorry and instructor, at a time when there’s an urgent need for more driver training? Thankfully he just hit a light barrier, rather than anything more solid which might have taken the lorry out of service.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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Some of them are absolute loons though, reading through their statements in the voting bumf I got sent by the NT. One of them obviously spends a *lot* of his time thinking about homosexuals. It will be a shame if the small steps the NT has recently made in the direction of no longer whitewashing the history of their properties are reversed if these dinosaurs get elected. Anyway, I've voted against them and many NT members of my acquaintance have done too.Casino_Royale said:
Nope, but I support it.tlg86 said:
They have absolutely no-one to blame but themselves for its creation.0 -
I must have ....DecrepiterJohnL said:
Did you miss the last thread? It headlined Labour's poor polling and discussed the allegory of Starmer crashing after declining advice to turn left.squareroot2 said:We ought to have had a thread, just to even things up on Starmer being a prat, unable to reverse a lorry without crashing into something. It's a metaphor for his leadership innit??
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