Suddenly pinging it becomes the main COVID story – politicalbetting.com
Suddenly pinging it becomes the main COVID story – politicalbetting.com
Quite what ministers do about this one is hard to say but when one of the main mechanisms in controlling the virus is being deleted off their phones by users then there is a serious issue.
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As OGH says in the header, HMG should asap ease the self-isolation requirement, or release the new, less sensitive version of the app that it is said to be working on.
https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1415672461111271424
Basically it’s more infectious than other variants as those infected shed virus earlier, and shed up to 1000x more of it.
It doesn’t seem to be significantly more or less dangerous than the other variants to those infected, though.
The police and government are perceived as having lost control of digital crime, providing fertile ground for Starmer
James Forsyth" (£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/online-fraud-will-turn-toxic-for-the-tories-9bl0s3rqq
https://www.eetimes.com/tsmc-in-due-diligence-on-possibility-of-japan-fab/#
… The geopolitical developments that have prompted TSMC to expand its global manufacturing outside Taiwan are continuing, according to Chairman Liu. He had supportive words for the new administration of US President Joe Biden.
“In the new administration from the US, I think the development is more predictable, more rule-based. I think it’s better for every company to adapt to.”
TSMC’s global manufacturing may adjust for customers in various countries to address needs for improved infrastructure and supply security, Liu said.
“It is the customer’s needs that we are adjusting to, based on greater geopolitical developments,” he said.…
Keeping their most advanced tech in Taiwan, though.
Now that we have vaccines, testing is a waste of time. We don't test people for flu.
We need to snap out of this fear-laden doom-mongered mindset. And live.
I know this bit is controversial, but if I've caught covid I shan't inform anyone. I'll wear a mask out and about including at the shops and that's it.
The only vaccinated people who will die from this are those with other serious health conditions.
If you're healthy and have been double-vaccinated none of them are 'deadly'.
There's nothing at all deadly about this if you've been vaccinated. The word is inappropriate to use.
Live.
Use phone's camera mode and wave the phone over the QR code at a venue.
Job done.
If blaming Councils were the issue then why haven't Tory Councils been blamed? Tories already had most Councillors nationwide.
More significantly is surely that the country has full employment. With the Living Wage that Osborne introduced, full employment, and affordable houses people are able to afford their own homes and not rely upon Councils.
Not as bright as forecast. Still we had a very good day yesterday. Mrs C's birthday, so long visit from Eldest Granddaughter, who said, inter alia that she was really glad to be in her 30's; she felt dreadfully sorry for her teenage cousins going through the pandemic
I’ll put George Dobell down as a ‘maybe:’
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the-hundred-2021-with-friends-like-these-a-hundred-reasons-why-the-ecb-has-failed-the-game-1269911
A mate started feeling ill in March of last year. He decided he had had Covid, and was suffering from long Covid. This went on until recently, when a doctor ordered tests that eventually revealed that he had a rare stage-4 cancer.
He's a few years younger than me, with a family. He says that if it had not been for Covid, he would have got the symptoms checked out much earlier.
The health effects of Covid are going to last a long time, even for many of those who never got Covid...
Must have been some time ago.
And why not? AstraZeneca is estimated to have only about 60% efficacy against symptomatic infection, where the Delta variant is concerned. Its efficacy against asymptomatic infection is expected to be lower. The "double jabbed" can still get the disease and pass on the disease.
Whatever anyone thinks the best strategy is for dealing with this, please let's not mislead anyone into thinking otherwise.
I do have to laugh though at the mentality that we have to 'break the doom cycle' or whatever. Pox will Go Away if we think positive thoughts. meanwhile, as we have some hospitals being overrun, they're having to instruct their staff to delete the app because whether they have come into contact with Covid or not, if so many staff have to isolate then people are going to die.
What hope do we all have if a mentality like this persists?
You and others are fed up - we all are. But you've decided that the best way to be clear of Covid is to wish it out of existence. The majority think you are crazy. When you find that you are in the minority tomorrow with most people still "virtue signalling" is going to wind you up?
"Who are these idiots?" you will think about each other.
What hope do we have with these selfish virtue signalling do-gooders refusing to join in the "There is no Covid" groupthink?
That is what The Saj told the Commons and what Boris told the press conference. Whether Waterstones fits that description, I could not say.
That is the problem with the government's new cakeist position. It wants to lift restrictions and have them immediately reapplied by businesses. It just introduces uncertainty. The government's grand plan is not that Covid is over, but that they'd rather have a spike in the summer than in winter.
Even if you disagree with it, it's a reasonable view atm. An alternative is people fearing Covid so much that we never, ever, get out of the restrictions, even when the hospitalisations and deaths are near-zero.
I'm happy for people to make their own choices at this stage - although the presence of people who cannot be vaccinated (as opposed to refuseniks - is something to be factored in. I'll still be wearing masks for a while, as I don't see it as much of an infringement of my liberties to do so. Others do.
As an aside, a real tragedy of this crisis is that, whilst vaccinations have worked better than I hoped, therapeutics have not.
Love!
GB News attracted zero viewers during some of its broadcasts this week, according to official television audience figures produced by rating agency Barb, after a viewer boycott prompted by one of its presenters taking the knee in solidarity with the England football team.
The channel has now said the decision of Guto Harri to make the on-air gesture on Tuesday in solidarity against the racist abuse suffered by English players was “an unacceptable breach of our standards”.
A GB News spokesperson declined to say whether Harri, a former spokesperson for Boris Johnson, was still with the channel.
Business editor Liam Halligan and former Labour MP Gloria De Piero attracted no measurable audience to their show between 1pm and 1.30pm on Wednesday afternoon. During the same timeslot the BBC News channel attracted 62,000 viewers, while Sky News had 50,000 people watching.
GB News’ audience again briefly dipped to zero at 5pm, during a late-afternoon programme co-hosted by ex-BBC presenter Simon McCoy and former Ukip spokesperson Alex Phillips.
The figures were recorded the day after Harri’s move, which led to widespread fury on social media from GB News viewers who pledged to stop watching the recently launched rightwing current affairs channel, making accusations that it had sold out and gone “woke”, secretly harboured Marxist values, or was in favour of Black Lives Matter.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jul/15/gb-news-shows-attracted-zero-viewers-after-boycott-over-taking-the-knee?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
The thing about personal liberty is that it isn't unilateral. I do not have the personal liberty to ask in a way that endangers others. Some people are now so obsessed by it that they have decided to redefine "endanger" to excuse their "fuck off" actions.
They have quite literally wished it out of existence. Covid is no longer a threat, people exposed should go about their lives normally and if that means treating people on the intensive care ward whilst the rules we have all known throughout say you are infectious then whatever.
I agree with this thread and to be honest unless something is done very quickly I can see many hundreds of thousands of people deleting the app
I expect many of those pinged will ignore it
This has been a terrible week for Boris and HMG with the racist attacks on our wonderful black footballers, his annihilation by Starmer at PMQ,s and now this
I expect this to hit the poll rating of Boris and HMG hard, and deservedly so
And yes, I am still a member of the party and actually have become a fan of Steve Baker
It is making people nervous and scared again.
And then we have Guto "who?" Hari taking the knee and the whole place goes mental. HOW DARE HE etc etc. "An unacceptable breach of our standards" - what the hell are their standards then?
As Novara Media have higher production values, perhaps the no surrender news channel should just launch onto the internet and Youtube and be done with it. Then they can safely interview the guy waving his cock about at the football and sympathetic interviews to the people who posted racist abuse at footballers without the risk of anything horrible happening like someone taking the knee.
PM and Home Secretary say they understand (and do not oppose) racists booing the England football team's stand against racism -> "racist attacks on our wonderful black footballers"
By 2010 after 13 years of Labour in government, the Tories had won most Councillors across the country. So if people were turning against their local Councillors then the Tories should have been the biggest losers, not the big winners from that.
Is there some magical reason in your eyes that people have turned against Labour Councils in a way that they haven't turned against Tory ones?
Or maybe its just that people turned against Labour as they didn't like what Labour had to say? 🤔
We have a good comparison in flu. Before Covid, we had tens of thousands of deaths each year because of flu. To keep it under control, we vaccinated - but had no limits to our personal freedoms. People still went into work coughing and sniffling (*), and we coped. IMO the risks from Covid at the moment are *below* where they would be in a bad flu year. So why massive restrictions? (Remember, in many winters we have had 'NHS cannot cope with flu crisis" headlines.
One thing that concerns me is that, in future winters, we'll have a similar kafuffle over 'ordinary' flu. Restrict yourselves to protect the NHS. IMV that'll be hideous for the nation.
(*) I think that's something that's going to change
I won't be going out much to indoor venues from Monday 19th during a time of high prevalence, though will do so once the wave subsides to a few thousand rather than 50 000 cases per day.
I just don't want to be around unmasked people who are ignoring social distancing for a while yet.
The boring reality is free speech has always come with consequences.
People are hyperventillating over cases but cases aren't resulting in deaths in any significant number.
The solution is simple. Stop worrying about cases. Stop testing for cases. Stop trying to prevent the pox spreading.
If people are unvaccinated they may get sick and die. So get vaccinated.
I have been in the Lake district undistracted by the TV in our accommodation. It only went on to find the WiFi password and that was it.
The Minimum Wage tiers already existed. The Living Wage is a brand new even higher tier introduced by Osborne.
If you know you have the bug then the only right thing to do is self isolate.
Everything else is fine.
It’ll take at least a decade before we can begin to draw conclusions.
What really is killing it, apart from the poor production values, is that there is very little news, just repetitive pub bores rolling out the same tired ill-informed whinges. They just cannot fill 24 hours that way. They probably could manage a couple of hours in the evening.
Why did the Tories object to the minimum wage?
Treasury has always been good at this kind of thing - and it's fair and appropriate.
Or nervous about being pinged and having to isolate?
People seem more worried about the latter and it messing up their plans and that's easily fixed. Stop pinging people.
As far as taking the knee is concerned I do not like anyone bending a knee, and can understand those who do not support it including several high profile black players in the Premier League
Actually , the one thing the racists have achieved is a large increase in those now actively supporting taking the knee and Steve Baker is spot on on his comments about this issue
That’s a hell of a leap. They certainly defended the right to boo or said people have a right to boo which they clearly do. But your spin on what they said seems to be at odds with what they said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57837572
Its fine to "cancel" Hari taking the knee. Its not fine for the people taking the knee to "cancel" your racism. Again, if people want one-sided bullshit "journalism" the model is Novara Media. That way you only get what you want, you pay for it directly so it always gives you what you want, and if decent society shuns it and you its proof that you are winning the argument.
Shades of that other phenomenon:
- Andy Murray winning =British success
- Andy Murray losing = Scottish failure
That was before I was even an adult and I've voted in six general elections since then.
Whether a prior generation of politicians, very few of whom are still in Parliament and none of whom hold a senior role in the party anymore, opposed it or not is moot now. The Tories in Parliament today have introduced the Living Wage and uplifted the Minimum Wage faster than inflation.
1) To deal with the Delta variant you need to be jabbed twice
2) They know 66% of adults have been double jabbed
3) They know that we're removing pretty much all restrictions on Monday
So they have family and friends who aren't doubled jabbed, so they worry and get scared about them. all this pinging is merely the cherry on the parfait and doesn't impact 1-3.
People have not always used the NHS track and trace app at venues, are the paper lists collected at venues scanned, handed over with accurate contact details.
My question then is why not from Monday
I am afraid this is just another example of what I refer to our elected dictatorship type of democracy. Government's rule regardless of parliament and opposition opposes to everything regardless of the merit for the sake of it. So any genuine issue is just ignored. Nothing is genuinely discussed in parliament on its merits and decisions taken accordingly.
An 18 year old single jabbed is at extremely low risk from Covid.
Anyone not vaccinated should get vaccinated. Otherwise we should be done with this mess.
If you brand yourself as Product A, it is profoundly unwise to behave like Product B.
Not having the app to ping means that they can continue to treat medically vulnerable and seriously ill patients and likely expose them to Covid.
So we're back to two schools of thought. On one hand everyone should already have been jabbed by now, which makes them invulnerable so stop testing and let nature take its course. On the other hand your comments about evil.
I'm glad I am not a medic. Unlike the "pray the pox away" brigade on here they know how bad this is. And your government have put them in the position of don't get pinghed, keep working and likely cause harm, or get pinged, don't work and the hospital is so short of medics that it will likely cause harm.