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  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,546
    HYUFD said:

    The 2 are interlinked, generally Leavers loathe Meghan and Harry, Remainers are more sympathetic
    No.

    It's just an action learning project to see for how long Philip can stay Furious at one sitting.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,089

    Some Olympic-standard cheating there from the Russians! But they aren't alone....
    The sad, ugly thing in the US is that there has definitely been fiddling with the figures. I'm looking at you, Florida.

    The excess deaths gap is pretty big there.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,103
    HYUFD said:

    The 2 are interlinked, generally Leavers loathe Meghan and Harry, Remainers are more sympathetic
    But what are Leavers opinions on Starmer, Radiohead, and Yorkshire?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,683

    IIRC the original reason for ironing a newspaper was that in the Good Olde Days newsprint was really likely to come off the paper and make a mess. Ironing the paper through a cloth "fixed" the ink.
    Yes, I think that's it. But there must also be a certain visceral pleasure in having your paper presented to you, sharply creased and warm to the touch.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,938
    edited March 2021

    Oh good. We're talking about Meghan and Harry again. Can we not have a good argument about Brexit instead?

    What we need is a long and florid row about how misunderstandings of the Harry and Meghan saga somehow reflect cultural divides, mutual ignorance and disrespect on Brexit, with anger and recriminations at the pandemic situation somehow worked in as well.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,546

    One would need to brush one's teeth many times per day in order for that logic to make much sense, though.
    I think of Prince Charles valet as a modern Jeeves, without the superman qualities.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,089
    kinabalu said:

    Yes, I think that's it. But there must also be a certain visceral pleasure in having your paper presented to you, sharply creased and warm to the touch.
    Yes, as a side effect of the original reason.

    Which is why it is done, long after modern inks have fixed the original problem.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,480

    Boris did the deal, Wales just took the vaccines

    And Drakeford is still rubbish
    oh dear!!!
  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    Time for a new plan in Downing St. A snap referendum in May.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    MattW said:

    No.

    It's just an action learning project to see for how long Philip can stay Furious at one sitting.
    I'm not furious, I really don't care that much. I think this tabloid bollocks is ridiculous and we have better things to think about.

    I also think the pile on, on Meghan, is unjustified.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,089
    England vaccinations

    Region of Residence 1st dose 2nd dose Cumulative Total Doses to Date
    Total 383,618 21,688 405,306
    East Of England 41,573 2,582 44,155
    London 45,281 3,565 48,846
    Midlands 78,837 5,413 84,250
    North East And Yorkshire 59,540 2,862 62,402
    North West 46,797 1,936 48,733
    South East 66,060 2,826 68,886
    South West 43,404 2,479 45,883
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,683
    MattW said:

    I don't actually have a problem with that. PC has a personal valet / butler who looks after some aspects of his life - clothes, suits, ironing, perhaps planning the day, looking after laundry, towels and so on. Putting toothbrush out is just a part of that.

    Diana used to have a "dresser" who was responsible for co-ordinating her wardrobe, jewellery and so on.

    They are just outsourcing parts of their personal life, so they can fit more of the rest in.

    Is that not just how people in wealthy lifestyles live? Are wealthy pop figures, industrialists, socialites or Heads of Government any different?

    How many popstars deal with their own flowers?
    It's not so much the brush aspect - as you say that seems par for the course at the high end where Charles resides - it's the putting of the paste on it. That's what crossed the rubicon for me.
  • guybrushguybrush Posts: 258
    More anecdotals, I've a close family member who has had dealings with William's professional staff via work. My impression is the staff in question isn't the type to throw out these sort of allegations lightly. Ok, Meghan probably isn't the only primadonna member of the Royal family, but the reality of the situation contrasts hugely with the image the Sussex's are trying to project (and the reality of William/Kate - by all accounts unflashy and hard working).

    As Charles mentioned a few days ago, Harry strikes me a a bit of a lost soul who has never really dealt with the loss of his mother and was probably most at home in the Army, where he couldn't stay put due to circumstances beyond his control. Enter Meghan, and in the space of a few years there's a kid on the scene, Harry is physically, financially isolated and estranged from his family - especially his brother. I'm very concerned for him.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,724
    Can someone with more brains than me let me know whether this is encouraging?

    https://twitter.com/timothysheahan/status/1368373948782612489
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468

    Do I think there may be some level of fault from her? Yes, absolutely, 100%. She's human, everyone has flaws. Nobody is divine or perfect.

    Do I think she's so flawed as to justify acres of press coverage for years now? No.

    I think a mountain has been made from a molehill and she's justifiably fed up.
    I would have a great deal of sympathy for Harry and Meghan if they had just run off and got on with their lives. I have no problem even with them milking the media to raise funds for either their charitable work or their lifestyle. However, turning the media spotlight on internal family dynamics to make a bigger buck is totally naff in my view.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,453

    England vaccinations

    Region of Residence 1st dose 2nd dose Cumulative Total Doses to Date
    Total 383,618 21,688 405,306
    East Of England 41,573 2,582 44,155
    London 45,281 3,565 48,846
    Midlands 78,837 5,413 84,250
    North East And Yorkshire 59,540 2,862 62,402
    North West 46,797 1,936 48,733
    South East 66,060 2,826 68,886
    South West 43,404 2,479 45,883

    Hoping we start seeing some significantly bigger numbers next week.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,360
    edited March 2021

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1368526829506662400

    What would the head of Ofsted know? We've had enough of experts

    A long standing problem with the head of OFSTED is that she does not, in fact, know anything about education. As the Education select committee pointed out at the time of her appointment and she has amply confirmed many times since, including failing to know what safeguarding is.

    Which is one reason why OFSTED's gradings are becoming increasingly erratic and unreliable.

    That's not to say Williamson is necessarily right, although there is mileage in some of his ideas.

    Will come back to this in a minute.
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  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,480

    IIRC the original reason for ironing a newspaper was that in the Good Olde Days newsprint was really likely to come off the paper and make a mess. Ironing the paper through a cloth "fixed" the ink.
    That's why newspapers were only used to outer wrap the fish and chips over white paper. The ink was oil based so the grease in the chips used to make the ink run, dirtying the hands. When the inks became water-based the problem ceased as the water based ink didn't run in grease.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,814
    edited March 2021
    guybrush said:

    More anecdotals, I've a close family member who has had dealings with William's professional staff via work. My impression is the staff in question isn't the type to throw out these sort of allegations lightly. Ok, Meghan probably isn't the only primadonna member of the Royal family, but the reality of the situation contrasts hugely with the image the Sussex's are trying to project (and the reality of William/Kate - by all accounts unflashy and hard working).

    As Charles mentioned a few days ago, Harry strikes me a a bit of a lost soul who has never really dealt with the loss of his mother and was probably most at home in the Army, where he couldn't stay put due to circumstances beyond his control. Enter Meghan, and in the space of a few years there's a kid on the scene, Harry is physically, financially isolated and estranged from his family - especially his brother. I'm very concerned for him.

    Threads dead baby threads dead
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,546
    kinabalu said:

    It's not so much the brush aspect - as you say that seems par for the course at the high end where Charles resides - it's the putting of the paste on it. That's what crossed the rubicon for me.
    It would be interesting to know whether that is actually true :smile:

    It could be, or it could be the Mail adding a bit to make it stick.

    In David Mellor's affair with Antonia de Sanchez, the "he insisted on sex in a Chelsea Football Strip" was the embroidered eyecatcher.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,101
    ydoethur said:

    I wonder though whether Unionist tactics - which appear, to judge from their ineptitude,* be to keep her in place for now to maximise damage in May - are altogether wise. Unless Scott Douglas is very confident of holding Edinburgh Central, Angus Robertson would be a far more formidable figure than any likely replacement this Parliament, and he is relatively untainted by the current scandal given he’s currently outside politics and government.

    *Of course, this may just be because the Unionists are inept.
    The Scottish Greens are contesting the constituency again. In 2016 their votes cost the SNP the seat.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,101
    Scott_xP said:

    Apart from the fact he already admitted he knew about Eck's "behaviour" years ago and did nothing
    Robertson untainted? Are you kidding?
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,101
    malcolmg said:

    Morning ydoether, reading Macbeth at present.
    Be careful, Malcolm....
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,690

    @Luckyguy1983 - You’ll be pleased to know there is a US politician standing up for your way of life.
    https://twitter.com/govricketts/status/1367939458784452610?s=21

    Good for him - he's absolutely right.
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362

    It could have been worse - they could have taken your advice and given our vaccines away to the EU for the sake of Christianity, or something.
    I’m sure you know you are spinning it, but I will politely correct you anyway. 🙂

    I made a reasoned argument that it is not good in long run to be so ahead of the game, much like how the US allowed the Russians to get the first Sputnik up there - and part of my argument was the practicalities of not sharing the longer it goes on with the claim, not just called impossible on here, but came with abuse, THAT BORIS WILL SHARE SOME OF OUR VACCINE WITH AN EU COUNTRY BEFORE EASTER MONDAY. And I stand by it.
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