The Trump denial saga: 8 Republicans elected to the House last month backed move which would have co
The failure of Trump to win re-election last month and his absolute determination not to acknowledge the fact is creating some amazing oddities for the Republican party.
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Especially if a Trumpite.
On balance, I think the latter would be nice - 2022 and 2024 to be Dems v GOP v Trumpists.
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1336143427663085568?s=20
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1334952364676026369?s=20
Hence GOP congressmen, wary of a primary challenge from a Trumper, have been reluctant to break ranks of him so far, though more will likely move from next week once constitutionally Biden is President elect, even if only to state that there is no way under the constitution Biden will not be the next President
Although I suppose it depends what exactly the poster wishes to convey :-)
Once he is out of the WH I would expect his impact and influence to fade. But he has made a career out of division and maybe he can keep it going for another four years.
Thanks though!
Edit: Although now I have seen @matthiasfromhamburg's reply I am not so sure 🤔
Ok so you didn't mean: Very good. That earns a star?
If it was possible he'd be behind bars is the unspoken bit.
Such as it is with political parties and "loyalty". Those who stand against "the leader" are subjected to threats, harassment and intimidation by those who are members of the same party.
What of here? If a Conservative were to come out and publicly oppose Johnson, what of them? Would they be subject to similar intimidation and threats?
Is loyalty to the leader all that matters? In that regard, what differentiates today's Republican Party from other authoritarian or totalitarian "parties" of the past and present? I suppose those Republicans who oppose Trump aren't likely to be dragged from their homes in the middle of the night and executed - presumably.
At what point does membership of a political movement or party mean the right to openly oppose the policies of that leader or party end?
But the sense of what you said was clear.
Since I was originally taught the usage by my German German Teacher, it's a case of "Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders", which will probably earn an even smaller star, since it's open to question whether he ever said it.
I meant "First !", which I see is also a name for an unfortunate magazine in Germany.
I take the "little star" as not a "Gold Star".
Biden 1.02
Democrats 1.02
Biden PV 1.02
Biden PV 49-51.9% 1.03
Trump PV 46-48.9% 1.03
Trump ECV 210-239 1.04
Biden ECV 300-329 1.04
Biden ECV Hcap -48.5 1.03
Biden ECV Hcap -63.5 1.03
Trump ECV Hcap +81.5 1.01
AZ Dem 1.02
GA Dem 1.03
MI Dem 1.03
NV Dem 1.02
PA Dem 1.02
WI Dem 1.03
Trump to leave before end of term NO 1.06
Trump exit date 2021 1.05
You are probalby right about Trump not going to prison though.
Technically, it is still possible for Congress to impose further delays on or before 6th January but Betfair should have settled by then.
A certain amount of patience is in order here. A lot of stuff is likely to come out in the years ahead. Even on current evidence I should say there is a prima facie case for a charge of treason. Not sure any pardon is going to get him off that unless it is specifically mentioned, which in itself would probably be tantamount to an admission of guilt.
Then there's the attack on his businesses and personal assets. The world he finds on leaving the White House will be very different to what it was when he enetered it. He may still be able to gather a congregation of deranged QAnoners and the like but in places of power and influence few will want to be associated with him.
Nor will it be much easier for his family and close associates. Pardons extend only as far the USA's water's edge. They will need to be careful about taking foreign trips.
Might be wrong about this, but I think most of us have more reason than Trump to look forward to 2021.
Perhaps the difference is that Tory MPs have the ultimate power to get rid of their leader (unlike Labour ones) and, unlike the Republicans who also have that power, have shown that they are prepared to use it four times so far in my lifetime.
https://twitter.com/marshallmanson/status/1337677901911773184
https://twitter.com/marshallmanson/status/1337677906991079424
https://twitter.com/marshallmanson/status/1337677912217022464
If so, surely there is a drop dead date to negotiations far earlier than some in the media are supposing?
Btw, on the upthread poll for 2024, I should be inclined to add the numbers for Trump and Don Jr. (Sorry, Ivanka; your cause is noble but your rating has hit a glass ceiling.)
https://twitter.com/MikeOtsuka/status/1338101639971024900?s=20
Mind you, there's always the hardcore. Less deadly than the common cold ffs.
https://twitter.com/MikeOtsuka/status/1338102052573077505?s=20
In contrast my wife had an operation, a child suffered badly from depression, I have had a trip to hospital myself, my brother has lived a half life with a terminal condition, my son has been denied exams two years in a row and a chance to shine, the implications of lockdown caused real financial concerns and it is now causing a non medical depression caused by a lack of holidays, family trips and socialising. Don't get me wrong, there have been lots of good things as well and I am not complaining. I am just struggling to imagine the leader of a different country impacting on me to such a material extent.
There is no prospect of success as objections must be approved by both the Democrat-controlled House and a Senate which may (depending on Georgia run-off) have a GOP majority but which also has a clear majority to seat Biden as several Repulican Senators recognise his win and many more have been very clear that they are allowing him to exhaust LEGAL avenues.
I think the senior chamber will recognise this and heavy pressure will be placed on any hothead amongst them not to put the party through it. No doubt there are a few cranks in the House delegation keen to make a name for themselves, but not sure they'll get a single Senator signed up.
Pile on Pence and Harris at 999-1!
https://twitter.com/kelvmackenzie/status/1337864454403452928?s=20
Lawsuits are before the Electoral College so fair enough on that one, they were never going to succeed but if they did then under the terms as I read it then that would affect it.
But the results are locked now that SCOTUS has ruled. We are past safe harbour and so they can't change before the Electoral College anymore and anything else now would be subsequent to it which the terms say will be disregarded.
This comes up now and then with very famous people (e.g. OJ Simpson) and people who are convicted of particularly awful crimes (with the outpouring of media stories about their past and so on), then have it overturned on appeal but face re-trial (or face trial on further charges).
The trouble is that settling by reference to the ECV makes no sense in itself. The only credible winning post was the one Biden crossed when the Networks called the contest the weekend after the election. This was undoubtedly what Betfair had in mind when they framed the rules, and on which they began settling. They had no reason to divert from this path. Any subsequent dates or events that have been mentioned make sense only in terms of factors entirely unrelated to the orderly settlement of betting markets.
Apart from the IT sides, Betfair run an incredibly simple business. It is no surprise therefore that the pumps are manned mostly by extremely simple people. Anyone who has ever corresponded with them is likely to have been struck by their difficulty in grasping even the most basic principles of punting, or sound business principles for that matter. The only thing that matters is throughput, i.e., the number of bets matched. So ask a sensible question like 'What exactly do you mean by 'projected Electoral College votes?' and you are likely to confronted by bewilderment, possibly followed much later by a PR statement so bland and uninformative that even Jim Hacker would have been embarrassed by it.
I wouldn't have placed the probabilty of a settlement next week as high as 80% but for the fact that I know Betfair have been inundated with complaints and it is likely that IBAS and the Gambling Commission are taking a well-justified look at them. The ECV gives Betfair a face-saving formula on the 15th. If they don't take that, I suppose the next one is Inauguration Day on 20th January. After that, it can only be whenever Trump concedes, which is likely to be never.
Let's just hope Betfair take the early option.
Until SCOTUS ruled there was a possibility that projected winner could change. There isn't anymore, it's over Biden won.
So, me and Trump, it really has knocked me for six. That such a person could first of all have been elected to POTUS, and then have his quite unspeakable behaviour humoured and enabled and tolerated and downplayed for so long by so many, has been a massive problem for me. I found it really hard to accept and for 4 years, which is quite a long time, it made the world appear a less appealing place to me. It affected my mood significantly. Nothing clinical, not even close to that, but when I've felt low in recent times, the reason for it has often had something to do with him - not simply him per se, but what the Trump phenomenon was telling me.
Allowing the President to pardon state crimes would require a constitutional amendment.
Governor Cuomo is probably eyeing a 2024 Presidential run... what's his incentive to play ball if he sees the opportunity to go into Democratic primaries as the man who jailed Trump? And he's Governor of New York - not like they can buy him off with a nice bridge and a few quid for road resurfacing as you would for Idaho or whatever.
BoZo is still scared of the headbangers but he intends to disappointment them
Otherwise he would have crashed the talks with Churchillian bluster (the dog, not the man) and been hailed a hero (for up to 2 weeks more)
It is New Zealand style.
But my tip came off. Need to check the numbers but I think both the Perez and McLaren best of the rest bets came off too. May be contingent on the penalty investigation into Sainz for pit lane naughtiness.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-55279308
"The BBC has discovered the Conservative-controlled authority has been issued with six "unsatisfied" county court judgements (CCJs) since 2016, totalling more than £100,000."
The difficulty is finding another with Trump's appeal in rural areas and charisma. That is a rare finding.
SPIN settled their Biden -20 ECV Handicap market ages ago. Settled it as Biden Winner since he has not only won the election but done so by more than 20 ECV. Yet they have still as we speak not settled their vanilla Winner market. So Biden has won by more than 20 for a fact but he might not win.
Bookies eh.
Edit, maybe they could reshow highlights of the Manchester derby instead.