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  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,224
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  • That's a serious point: candidates from less well-off backgrounds, who don't live in a nice detached house where there's a quiet room in which to set up the call, and who don't necessarily have a good broadband connection and decent hardware, may well be severely disadvantaged by virtual interviews - even more so than in the traditional face-to-face ones.
    I think some interviews are being done with the candidates at school: I expect most schools should be able to provide a private office with a decent internet connection. Most.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,279
    My mum`s nursing home ten days ago had four residents test positive for Covid.

    All four are asymptomatic.

    Does that strike anyone as strange? I mean these residents are late 80 / 90 years of age and with plenty of other health issues. One would have though that catching covid would be the end of the road for these guys.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    HYUFD said:

    Clinton won Orange by 51% to 42% in 2016, the latest numbers have Biden on 53% in Orange but Trump on 44.5%.

    So I was in fact correct and Trump has done better in Orange County with a higher voteshare there than he did in 2016, so put that in your pompous, patronising pipe and smoke it!!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_California

    https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/results/state/california
    Clinton won by 8.6%. According to the Orange Count Registrar of Voters Biden won by 9.04%

    Is that better or worse. I'm finding it hard to tell?

    Were you able to track down who made the prediction?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,463
    Carnyx said:

    In other words, effectively you have to be able to afford private education to get into Headmastder's Conference "Public Schools". That adds to the social and class barrier.,
    They didn't come worse than Eton. They wouldn't play rugby against my school Millfield because it wasn't part of the Headmaster's Conference or at least that was what they said. Their refusals were regularly posted on the school notice board. The headmasters implication was that the real reason was Millfield had the best rugby team in the country and they didn't want to be humiliated but I always suspected that the reason given was the correct one which was of course even worse!
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    I think some interviews are being done with the candidates at school: I expect most schools should be able to provide a private office with a decent internet connection. Most.
    If they can’t I doubt their would be an interview
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    Stocky said:

    My mum`s nursing home ten days ago had four residents test positive for Covid.

    All four are asymptomatic.

    Does that strike anyone as strange? I mean these residents are late 80 / 90 years of age and with plenty of other health issues. One would have though that catching covid would be the end of the road for these guys.

    Roll the dice enough times and you'll get an unexpected outcome. Same thing happened to my friend's grandma in a home. The thing is though, they may have symptoms but not notice it. If two of them only had the loss of smell then... well not to be unkind but if they're a touch away with the faries it's not the most likely thing to be detected is it?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    edited December 2020
    Roger said:

    They didn't come worse than Eton. They wouldn't play rugby against my school Millfield because it wasn't part of the Headmaster's Conference or at least that was what they said. Their refusals were regularly posted on the school notice board. The headmasters implication was that the real reason was Millfield had the best rugby team in the country and they didn't want to be humiliated but I always suspected that the reason given was the correct one which was of course even worse!
    Millfield?! I happen to know the area well from Boy Scout camps and holidays as an adult (and no, I did not go there). That is utterly outrageous. Are [edit] opr rather were the Etonians worried about catching ringworm or something?!

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,224
    Stocky said:

    My mum`s nursing home ten days ago had four residents test positive for Covid.

    All four are asymptomatic.

    Does that strike anyone as strange? I mean these residents are late 80 / 90 years of age and with plenty of other health issues. One would have though that catching covid would be the end of the road for these guys.

    There have been many examples of very infirm and ancient people who have brushed off COVID - all the way back to March and Italy.

    Even among the very elderly, the majority survive.

    https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1327

    "The overall death rate from covid-19 has been estimated at 0.66%, rising sharply to 7.8% in people aged over 80 and declining to 0.0016% in children aged 9 and under"

    "The team found that nearly one in five people over 80 infected with covid-19 would probably require hospital admission, compared with around 1% of people under 30."
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,812
    edited December 2020
    DougSeal said:

    I didn't like a lot of my time at Oxford because I went to a grammar school which were, even in the early 90s, rare beasts. We didn't quite fit into the class system anywhere comfortable. People who went to comprehensives, especially Northern comprehensives, effortlessly adopted a working-class hero, f*** the system type attitude, while the public and private school bunch swanned around like they owned the place. We grammar school types were considered a little declasse by both groups.
    I know what you mean. I suffer from a lack of identity. Neither one thing nor the other. Working class roots but aspirational ones. Rise out of your class, not solidarity with it or any sense of belonging. Saw a TV prog the other day featuring a father son combo who had done nothing but catch and sell mussels in Kent. That was their life and had been for umpteen generations before them. Father was 92, son was 65, both looked happy as larry and - this is key - just so earthed and content in what and who they were. Nothing on earth could knock their sense of self. Exactly like Jacob Rees Mogg. I'm the opposite of this. My essence is flimsy and indistinct. It's great and awful at the same time. More awful and less great as time passes.
  • DougSeal said:

    I didn't like a lot of my time at Oxford because I went to a grammar school which were, even in the early 90s, rare beasts. We didn't quite fit into the class system anywhere comfortable. People who went to comprehensives, especially Northern comprehensives, effortlessly adopted a working-class hero, f*** the system type attitude, while the public and private school bunch swanned around like they owned the place. We grammar school types were considered a little declasse by both groups.
    I don't even know what the difference is between "public schools" and private schools, other than that the latter seems a more accurate description. Living in the US for a number of years, where "public school" has a more logical meaning, I find it extra confusing to use the phrase in its English usage.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,087
    Alistair said:

    Clinton won by 8.6%. According to the Orange Count Registrar of Voters Biden won by 9.04%

    Is that better or worse. I'm finding it hard to tell?

    Were you able to track down who made the prediction?
    I said Trump would get a higher voteshare in Orange County, in 2016 he got 42.3% there, last month he got 44.5% in Orange County, so I was therefore correct.

  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    Roger said:

    They didn't come worse than Eton. They wouldn't play rugby against my school Millfield because it wasn't part of the Headmaster's Conference or at least that was what they said. Their refusals were regularly posted on the school notice board. The headmasters implication was that the real reason was Millfield had the best rugby team in the country and they didn't want to be humiliated but I always suspected that the reason given was the correct one which was of course even worse!
    Ah, the famous 'Harrow we know, and Winchester we know, but who are ye?'
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    edited December 2020
    HYUFD said:

    OLB Scholarships just reduce the fees, to get into Eton, Westminster, Winchester etc you also need to pass Common Entrance even if your parents pay full fees

    Milfield will give you a sports scholarship if you are particularly talented: we've had a couple go there I think.

    Edit: my uncertainty is the number, not the destination.
  • I don't like Drakeford, but your final comment is plain silly. He is not blame free, but neither is Johnson. I take it you are planning to give all those Covid naysayers who have flouted the law, a free pass.
    Boris has nothing to do in Wales and Drakeford made the wrong decision

    Also telling pubs to close at 6.00, and by the way you cannot serve alcohol is idiotic as people go to the supermarkets and gather in their homes
  • I think your utter hatred for Mark Drakeford is clouding your judgement on how equally poorly other leaders have performed.
    I do not hate anyone but dislike Drakeford, well yes for lots of reason especially on health
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    edited December 2020
    Roger said:

    They didn't come worse than Eton. They wouldn't play rugby against my school Millfield because it wasn't part of the Headmaster's Conference or at least that was what they said. Their refusals were regularly posted on the school notice board. The headmasters implication was that the real reason was Millfield had the best rugby team in the country and they didn't want to be humiliated but I always suspected that the reason given was the correct one which was of course even worse!
    They played against us for a while (us being the state school I teach at which for obvious reasons I'm not going to name).

    Edit: And we play Millfield as well.
  • NEW THREAD

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,400
    DougSeal said:

    When I was in the Sixth Form I put in the narrative section on my UCCA/PCAS form (they had merged the forms in readiness for the merger to become UCAS the following year) that I enjoyed reading Chekhov's plays - simply because I was in a production of Three Sisters when I filled it out. I thought it made me sound intellectual. Only on my way to interview at Liverpool did I realise that Three Sisters was about the only Chekhov play I could name, let alone talk about. Cue panicked search in WH Smiths on Euston for a copy of anything whatsoever by Chekhov I could get my hands on. Amazingly I found a paperback copy of the 4 major plays and spent most of my lunch money on it. On the train I practically memorised the introduction, skim read The Seagull, and when it came up extemorised some complete crap based on that. Amazingly, I got a BCC offer, and would have gone there if I hadn't passed the Oxford entrance.

    29 years later I still keep that very same copy near my desk to remind me that bullshitters always, always, get found out.
    At my Cambridge interview, I mentioned my love of art. And the admissions tutor asked me, "if you could have just one piece of art, what would it be?"

    "Well, Guernica's an incredible work of art, but it's not exactly something I'd want hanging by my bedside" (phew, great answer...)

    "Let me turn the question around. If you could save just one work of art, and all the rest would be destroyed, what would it be?"

    It was at this point that I realised my utter bullshitting (I know nothing of art) was going to get me into big trouble. Because I was going to need to defend whatever I said.

    "Given the extraordinary diversity of art created in the world, it would create a misleading impression to just keep one piece. Better to destroy it all, than just keep one."

    I'm sure he smelt the bullshit. But I got in nonetheless.
  • kinabalu said:

    Right. So if that is the case, where is all this "the Welsh firebreak was a dreadful error that made things worse" commentary coming from? Could it be anti-Drakeford sentiment in the driving seat? Is Drakeford getting on people's tits for some reason, either because he's Labour or because he's Welsh, or simply because he's Drakeford?
    The answer is he insisted on one fire break and took the foot off the pedal with the inevitable result

    Drakeford being Welsh is nothing to do with it, but his other policies and failures, especially on health do
  • Carnyx said:

    Or anti-devolution sentiment, as a logical possibility at least. I sometimes wonder if Ms Sturgeon can win on PB. Eityher she';s not being severe enough or she's too severe.
    Drakeford is a solid unionists who accepted that Wales needed the strength of Westminster to help the economic storm
  • I don't even know what the difference is between "public schools" and private schools, other than that the latter seems a more accurate description. Living in the US for a number of years, where "public school" has a more logical meaning, I find it extra confusing to use the phrase in its English usage.
    It is, like so many things, historical. It contrasts with someone whose parents were sufficiently rich to hire tutors to privately educate them at home (like the Queen).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594

    Blimey.

    The elected Mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, has been arrested.

    The city leader was arrested earlier today by Merseyside Police along with four other men in connection with offences of bribery and witness intimidation as part of an investigation into building and development contracts in Liverpool.


    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mayor-liverpool-joe-anderson-arrested-19399231#source=breaking-news

    Wow, you don't often see accusations of such outright corruption. Look forward to see how it develops.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,812
    edited December 2020

    In a normal group of 60 people, Mark Drakeford would stand out as completely incompetent, lacking ideas, charisma or even basic functioning intelligence and motor skills.

    In the group of 60 Welsh AMs in the Senedd, Drakeford is (unbelievably) in the top 5 per cent. He is smarter than all the ex-UKIPers, as well as almost all the Tories, Labour & PC AMs, and Dim Kirsty.

    It is measure of how abysmally low the standards are in the Senedd, which is the UK's most corrupt Parliament.

    Nonetheless, Drakeford has had a poor pandemic -- and he may be drifting into serious trouble if Wales diverges strongly from England & Scotland.

    It is also true that "World Beating" Boris and "Zero Covid Scotland" Sturgeon have not had great pandemics either.

    That is because you can't kid the COVID-19 virus -- and we have some of the greatest kidders in our political class in the World.
    Very true re Covid. You can neither bullshit it nor "wrestle it to the ground". The countries that have done best are led by the sort of unshowy competents of which we have a dearth.

    As for Drakes and the Senedd, perhaps the deep seated reason for the poor level of participants is your jaundiced but (imo) not wholly inaccurate observation of the other day - "nobody is interested in what happens in Wales". :smile:
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,307
    Merseyside police GBH?

    https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1334919063710158850

    Anderson suspended by Labour.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,670

    It is, like so many things, historical. It contrasts with someone whose parents were sufficiently rich to hire tutors to privately educate them at home (like the Queen).
    I'm not actually sure whether top Independent Day Schools count as public schools.

    Or are public schools the ones where they send the progeny away to board where they don't have to deal with them?

    Just asking.
  • MattW said:

    I'm not actually sure whether top Independent Day Schools count as public schools.

    Or are public schools the ones where they send the progeny away to board where they don't have to deal with them?

    Just asking.
    Turns out it was originally a legal term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Schools_Act_1868
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