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Mr. Isam, could also argue it's a sign of a thinning middle class. Those on tight budgets are more willing to go for cheaper alternatives, those with aspirations of being upper middle class desire to shop at Waitrose.
I think I read a report a few months ago that independent/corner shops were doing rather better as well, which is a good thing.0 -
Given the proposed extraterritorial approach to the Financial Transactions Tax, France can't exactly claim the moral high ground here.surbiton said:
Even if it happens outside the UK and within French jurisdiction. The US should be told to F*** OFF.ToryJim said:
If you don't want a fine for sanctions busting, don't bust sanctions. I actually quite like the US regulators as they do seem to take the view of handing out savage punishments for miscreants pour encourager les autresCarlottaVance said:
I wonder how this slap on the wrist will go down in France, with BNP Paribas facing a $10 billion fine in New York?ToryJim said:
Actually the censure is for accidentally pressing the wrong button in S&P systems which triggered a downgrade warning on France when none was being made. Of course ESMA is the European answer to the old question qui custodiet ipsos custodes as it's function is in essence to rate the ratings agencies.Blue_rog said:I see that the European Securities and Markets Authority has censured S&P for what they said about France.
The budget for ESMA has gone from Euro 5M and 25 staff in 2011 to Euro 33M and 184 staff this year. Inflation?
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Looks like there will be nothing in the Queen's Speech to protect the NHS.It's perhaps what can be expected of a zombie government.Anyone know if zombies go private?0
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Thanks Owen.volcanopete said:Looks like there will be nothing in the Queen's Speech to protect the NHS.It's perhaps what can be expected of a zombie government.Anyone know if zombies go private?
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Bloody Hell, going to have to change my shopping habits with the levy.
Start using those bag for life thingies.0 -
The NHS can look after itself, it deploys biological defences in most of its hospitals anyway.volcanopete said:Looks like there will be nothing in the Queen's Speech to protect the NHS.It's perhaps what can be expected of a zombie government.Anyone know if zombies go private?
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Nick Clegg for EU President.0
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The rumour earlier on about Jean-Claude Juncker seems to be entirely untrue:
" Jean-Claude Juncker @JunckerEU · 5m I am more confident than ever that I will be the next European Commission President."0 -
Jean-Claude Juncker @JunckerEU · 10 mins
I am more confident than ever that I will be the next European Commission President.
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The FTT would be paid to the country where the transaction arose. The US fine is about a transaction that supposedly had nothing to do with the US except as Snowden revealed it is biggest of all BIG BROTHERS.antifrank said:
Given the proposed extraterritorial approach to the Financial Transactions Tax, France can't exactly claim the moral high ground here.surbiton said:
Even if it happens outside the UK and within French jurisdiction. The US should be told to F*** OFF.ToryJim said:
If you don't want a fine for sanctions busting, don't bust sanctions. I actually quite like the US regulators as they do seem to take the view of handing out savage punishments for miscreants pour encourager les autresCarlottaVance said:
I wonder how this slap on the wrist will go down in France, with BNP Paribas facing a $10 billion fine in New York?ToryJim said:
Actually the censure is for accidentally pressing the wrong button in S&P systems which triggered a downgrade warning on France when none was being made. Of course ESMA is the European answer to the old question qui custodiet ipsos custodes as it's function is in essence to rate the ratings agencies.Blue_rog said:I see that the European Securities and Markets Authority has censured S&P for what they said about France.
The budget for ESMA has gone from Euro 5M and 25 staff in 2011 to Euro 33M and 184 staff this year. Inflation?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27676000
It seems only Putin can show two fingers to the US.0 -
Activate CamRef!antifrank said:The rumour earlier on about Jean-Claude Juncker seems to be entirely untrue:
" Jean-Claude Juncker @JunckerEU · 5m I am more confident than ever that I will be the next European Commission President."0 -
@JunckerEU: I am more confident than ever that I will be the next European Commission President.
That's his latest tweet, doesn't sound like he's withdrawing.0 -
Bet he drives a sports car with a long bonnet through the Mont Blanc tunnel.ToryJim said:@JunckerEU: I am more confident than ever that I will be the next European Commission President.
That's his latest tweet, doesn't sound like he's withdrawing.0 -
That is remarkable and brilliant.ToryJim said:O/t the Queen has a new coach to ride to open Parliament today. I must say it looks beautiful and lovingly made. Also the fact there are little pieces of history as part of the fabric of the coach is exquisite.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2647757/The-Queens-new-palace-wheels-Wood-Newtons-apple-tree-A-bullet-Waterloo-Metal-Dambuster-Unveiled-today-carriage-thats-mobile-museum-history.html0 -
It's all very exciting, who gets to be custodian of a dying experiment? Who gets to declare war on itself?
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O/t looks like PoW is attending State Opening again this year. Interesting, not sure he's ever attended 2 consecutively before.0
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@volcanopete
'Looks like there will be nothing in the Queen's Speech to protect the NHS'
Agree,surprised there is no proposal to remove control of the NHS in Wales from the Assembly.0 -
No, its job is to rubbish any ratings agency that dares to say anything nasty about the EU.ToryJim said:
Actually the censure is for accidentally pressing the wrong button in S&P systems which triggered a downgrade warning on France when none was being made. Of course ESMA is the European answer to the old question qui custodiet ipsos custodes as it's function is in essence to rate the ratings agencies.Blue_rog said:I see that the European Securities and Markets Authority has censured S&P for what they said about France.
The budget for ESMA has gone from Euro 5M and 25 staff in 2011 to Euro 33M and 184 staff this year. Inflation?0 -
In this age of Austerity, the coach has only been insured third party, fire and theft.Richard_Tyndall said:
That is remarkable and brilliant.ToryJim said:O/t the Queen has a new coach to ride to open Parliament today. I must say it looks beautiful and lovingly made. Also the fact there are little pieces of history as part of the fabric of the coach is exquisite.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2647757/The-Queens-new-palace-wheels-Wood-Newtons-apple-tree-A-bullet-Waterloo-Metal-Dambuster-Unveiled-today-carriage-thats-mobile-museum-history.html
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Well that's what it does but it's remit isn't couched in such lunatic terms officiallyRichard_Tyndall said:
No, its job is to rubbish any ratings agency that dares to say anything nasty about the EU.ToryJim said:
Actually the censure is for accidentally pressing the wrong button in S&P systems which triggered a downgrade warning on France when none was being made. Of course ESMA is the European answer to the old question qui custodiet ipsos custodes as it's function is in essence to rate the ratings agencies.Blue_rog said:I see that the European Securities and Markets Authority has censured S&P for what they said about France.
The budget for ESMA has gone from Euro 5M and 25 staff in 2011 to Euro 33M and 184 staff this year. Inflation?0 -
There's more than enough legislation already.volcanopete said:Looks like there will be nothing in the Queen's Speech to protect the NHS.It's perhaps what can be expected of a zombie government.Anyone know if zombies go private?
QE2 should announce that Parliament's on a very long holiday, and her subjects can get on with their lives, free from additional, largely pointless, meddling and interference by the fools in Westminster.0 -
:-)ToryJim said:
Well that's what it does but it's remit isn't couched in such lunatic terms officiallyRichard_Tyndall said:
No, its job is to rubbish any ratings agency that dares to say anything nasty about the EU.ToryJim said:
Actually the censure is for accidentally pressing the wrong button in S&P systems which triggered a downgrade warning on France when none was being made. Of course ESMA is the European answer to the old question qui custodiet ipsos custodes as it's function is in essence to rate the ratings agencies.Blue_rog said:I see that the European Securities and Markets Authority has censured S&P for what they said about France.
The budget for ESMA has gone from Euro 5M and 25 staff in 2011 to Euro 33M and 184 staff this year. Inflation?
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Some legislation on pubs in the speech. Let's hope they don't muff it up and wreck my nice little earner.0
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I agree with those who are sceptical about the Lagarde suggestion, and I'm certainly not backing at 4/1. However, I do wonder whether France would veto it, if the other objections could be overcome and of course assuming that Madame Lagarde would actually want the gig. Given that it will be a centre-right candidate, perhaps Hollande were prefer a French centre-right candidate. The appointment will in any case be made after an intense bout of behind-the-scenes horsetrading, and perhaps some other carrot could be dangled in front of Hollande. From the point of view of both Germany and Britain, and of the other countries who want reform and a more business-friendly EU, Lagarde would be a superb appointment; even if the formal powers of the role are heavily circumscribed, as a symbolic statement it would be a very powerful move in the direction Germany and Britain are seeking.
In the end I think the difficulties will mean it won't happen, but the fact that it is being discussed is itself interesting. The 4/5 on Juncker looks too short.0 -
The must be a good chance that they will, Mr. Woolie. Remember that it was Lord Young's attempt to improve the selection of beers in pubs that led directly to the likes of Punch Taverns and so many pubs becoming so unprofitable they had to close. The mass destruction of the English pub is a direct result of politicians, who hadn't a clue what they were talking about, trying to be helpful. Truly the road to perdition is paved with good intentions.dyedwoolie said:Some legislation on pubs in the speech. Let's hope they don't muff it up and wreck my nice little earner.
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The smoking ban killed more pubs. Chuck in drink/drive laws and the disconnect between supermarket alcohol pricing and licensed premises, and you've got a lethal cocktail.HurstLlama said:
The must be a good chance that they will, Mr. Woolie. Remember that it was Lord Young's attempt to improve the selection of beers in pubs that led directly to the likes of Punch Taverns and so many pubs becoming so unprofitable they had to close. The mass destruction of the English pub is a direct result of politicians, who hadn't a clue what they were talking about, trying to be helpful. Truly the road to perdition is paved with good intentions.dyedwoolie said:Some legislation on pubs in the speech. Let's hope they don't muff it up and wreck my nice little earner.
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That's consistent with stretched household budgets encouraging people not to use the car as much, which is supported by the transport statistics.Morris_Dancer said:I think I read a report a few months ago that independent/corner shops were doing rather better as well, which is a good thing.
However, the big supermarkets are moving aggressively into the corner shop market - for example the "One-Stop" brand is now owned by Tesco - and so it's not clear that independent shops will be benefiting.0 -
Jean-Claude JunckerVERIFIED ACCOUNT
@JunckerEU I am not on my knees before any leader. I won the elections. #withJuncker pic.twitter.com/9Puwe1xkVq
Juncker proving Camerons words on twitter in so so many ways.
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ICE CREAM EMERGENCY
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In the recording, the woman can be heard complaining about the ice cream she has been given.
"I've ordered an ice cream and he's put bits on one side and none of the other," she said.
"He's refusing to give me my money back and saying I've got to take it like that."0 -
Mr. Slackbladder, how peculiar. I can't recall seeing his name on the ballot paper. Or, indeed, voting for a president.0
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The EPP achieved 28000 odd votes in the Euros.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Slackbladder, how peculiar. I can't recall seeing his name on the ballot paper. Or, indeed, voting for a president.
They only stood in one region.
Even the Liberal Democrats did better.0 -
They also got 10,000 votes in northern Ireland.Pulpstar said:
The EPP achieved 28000 odd votes in the Euros.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Slackbladder, how peculiar. I can't recall seeing his name on the ballot paper. Or, indeed, voting for a president.
They only stood in one region.
Even the Liberal Democrats did better.0 -
Is this a good or bad thing for Cameron and Juncker?
Mandelson backs PM over effort to block Juncker at European commission
Former European trade commissioner says it is reasonable for Cameron to want 'informed choice' of president
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/04/peter-mandelson-david-cameron-jean-claude-juncker0 -
In the same way, pace Billy Connolly, that you're an intellectual if you can listen to the William Tell Overture without thinking of the Lone Ranger, what are you if you can read the name Socrates without wanting to pronounce it "Sew crates"?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. K, can't judge a book by its cover. Socrates was famous for his ugliness.
For me, ever since Bill and Ted it's been Sew Crates all the way.0 -
I always forget just how sparkly the crown is on State Opening day.0
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That's India and Pakistan's contribution to the Crown.ToryJim said:I always forget just how sparkly the crown is on State Opening day.
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Mr. Bond, what if you forgot how Bill and Ted said it?0
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Forget everything else, Angry Birds Land has been opened today.0
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Nunners @realnunners 8m
I will vote Roger Helmer UKIP, because real men have a mustache #Newark #newarkbyelection
Hmm, this wasn't on the list of reasons for voting UKIp - perhaps Mr Llama could elucidate..?0 -
Hey, if you can't make off with the mineral wealth of colonial possessionsTheScreamingEagles said:
That's India and Pakistan's contribution to the Crown.ToryJim said:I always forget just how sparkly the crown is on State Opening day.
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Bloody Foreigners, coming over, stealing stuff from the hard working natives.ToryJim said:
Hey, if you can't make off with the mineral wealth of colonial possessionsTheScreamingEagles said:
That's India and Pakistan's contribution to the Crown.ToryJim said:I always forget just how sparkly the crown is on State Opening day.
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Camilla wearing the Boucheron Honeycomb tiara, fast becoming her signature headgear.0
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Tbh I think of the footballer when I see the nameBond_James_Bond said:
In the same way, pace Billy Connolly, that you're an intellectual if you can listen to the William Tell Overture without thinking of the Lone Ranger, what are you if you can read the name Socrates without wanting to pronounce it "Sew crates"?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. K, can't judge a book by its cover. Socrates was famous for his ugliness.
For me, ever since Bill and Ted it's been Sew Crates all the way.0 -
There's a footballer called Sew Crates? I never knew that.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Tbh I think of the footballer when I see the nameBond_James_Bond said:
In the same way, pace Billy Connolly, that you're an intellectual if you can listen to the William Tell Overture without thinking of the Lone Ranger, what are you if you can read the name Socrates without wanting to pronounce it "Sew crates"?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. K, can't judge a book by its cover. Socrates was famous for his ugliness.
For me, ever since Bill and Ted it's been Sew Crates all the way.
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It's not just a veto that's the issue, it's not nominating her as their commissioner, since they only have one slot. It would be fun if Cameron or someone else gave her their country's slot instead to annoy the French, but he probably won't.Richard_Nabavi said:I agree with those who are sceptical about the Lagarde suggestion, and I'm certainly not backing at 4/1. However, I do wonder whether France would veto it, if the other objections could be overcome and of course assuming that Madame Lagarde would actually want the gig. Given that it will be a centre-right candidate, perhaps Hollande were prefer a French centre-right candidate. The appointment will in any case be made after an intense bout of behind-the-scenes horsetrading, and perhaps some other carrot could be dangled in front of Hollande. From the point of view of both Germany and Britain, and of the other countries who want reform and a more business-friendly EU, Lagarde would be a superb appointment; even if the formal powers of the role are heavily circumscribed, as a symbolic statement it would be a very powerful move in the direction Germany and Britain are seeking.
In the end I think the difficulties will mean it won't happen, but the fact that it is being discussed is itself interesting. The 4/5 on Juncker looks too short.
There's a similar issue with Martin Schulz. He has a deal with Juncker where he becomes deputy, but he can't do that unless Merkel nominates him, and she'd probably rather pick someone of her own party, and she and the other heads of government are already cheezed off at the parliament rolling them on the nominee, without letting him pick a cabinet as well.0 -
A decidedly ambiguous comment, that!surbiton said:
Gordon turned the tide in Scotland with his speech !Carnyx said:
Hm! He's lecturing his fellow Scots (or, as he might put it at least when talking to US radio stations, North Britons) on precisely that at the moment ...SquareRoot said:
Indeed I suspect even our own institutions are concerned about El Gordo's own private dealings.. what with the Curse of Gordo and all that.WelshBertie said:
Largarde to the EU, Darling to the IMF. Brown should not be allowed near any financial institution ever again.Stickytroll said:Lagarde to the EU, El Gordo to the IMF. Job done.
Never allow Gordon Brown to touch anything to do with money, EVER AGAIN
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HurstLlama said:
The must be a good chance that they will, Mr. Woolie. Remember that it was Lord Young's attempt to improve the selection of beers in pubs that led directly to the likes of Punch Taverns and so many pubs becoming so unprofitable they had to close. The mass destruction of the English pub is a direct result of politicians, who hadn't a clue what they were talking about, trying to be helpful. Truly the road to perdition is paved with good intentions.dyedwoolie said:Some legislation on pubs in the speech. Let's hope they don't muff it up and wreck my nice little earner.
Yes, the smoking ban has made it very difficult, although it has forced us to look outside the box to keep trade up. It's the supermarkets that are the big enemy, selling at a loss/bare minimum because they can. I'm lucky in being the only pub in the village, but I have to put a constant stream of activity on to hold up. You also have the dichotomy of Wetherspoons running the exact opposite strategy of the PubCos in towns which doesn't help, and the free houses stuck in the middle not knowing whether to undercut tied houses and compete with Wetherspoons (good luck with that) or cash in on cheaper wholsesale and match the tied houses for price and risk losing trade.TheWatcher said:
The smoking ban killed more pubs. Chuck in drink/drive laws and the disconnect between supermarket alcohol pricing and licensed premises, and you've got a lethal cocktail.HurstLlama said:
The must be a good chance that they will, Mr. Woolie. Remember that it was Lord Young's attempt to improve the selection of beers in pubs that led directly to the likes of Punch Taverns and so many pubs becoming so unprofitable they had to close. The mass destruction of the English pub is a direct result of politicians, who hadn't a clue what they were talking about, trying to be helpful. Truly the road to perdition is paved with good intentions.dyedwoolie said:Some legislation on pubs in the speech. Let's hope they don't muff it up and wreck my nice little earner.
It's not the game it used to be, but that I'm afraid is Fatchas fault. Alcohol should never have been farmed out to anyone who fancied selling it. Keep it in pubs and off licenses and we'd all have a trade to fight in, and there wouldn't be such a rampant home drinking culture, pre-drinking or any of the other daft innovations of the last 25 years.
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Constitutional question:
Does the Queen have a vote in elections ?
Do other royals ?0 -
YesPulpstar said:Constitutional question:
Does the Queen have a vote in elections ?
Do other royals ?0 -
I don't believe she does.dyedwoolie said:
YesPulpstar said:Constitutional question:
Does the Queen have a vote in elections ?
Do other royals ?0 -
They all have a vote, but most don'tToryJim said:
I don't believe she does.dyedwoolie said:
YesPulpstar said:Constitutional question:
Does the Queen have a vote in elections ?
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Didn't it change when hereditary peers got chucked out the Lords?ToryJim said:
I don't believe she does.dyedwoolie said:
YesPulpstar said:Constitutional question:
Does the Queen have a vote in elections ?
Do other royals ?
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Reading this profile of Juncker he seems to be surprisingly badass. I love the way he tells the truth about lying.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10874230/Jean-Claude-Juncker-profile-When-it-becomes-serious-you-have-to-lie.html0 -
Can the Queen vote?
The Queen can vote, but in practice it is considered unconstitutional for the Monarch to vote in an election.
http://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/house-of-commons-faqs/elections-faq-page/0 -
Mr Blair would probably be the right sort of candidate for Mr CameronPulpstar said:The only thing that could be better for UKIP than Juncker getting the role is Tony Blair.
Mr Hannan suggests that the qualities HMG seeks in a candidate are: "someone who can be relied on to play along with the idea that Britain has secured meaningful improvements."
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100274672/which-faceless-eurocrat-did-you-vote-for/
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Yes, a bit like the American Federalist vs Confederalist debate in the 19th century too, and there is a real struggle going on. But it's quite a difficult moment to push for reducing the EP's power when it's just been re-elected - a reasonable response is "You didn't say you thought it wasn't important when you asked for our votes last month!" The danger for sceptics is that they're putting all their eggs into the "Anyone but Juncker" basket, as their real fear is not Juncker personally (since he can't achieve anything on his own) but a continuing shift towards the EP and away from national governments. So a deal whereby Juncker concedes to some super-federalist as part of a deal with the swing vote states is a possible outcome - hard for the sceptics to then say "Hey, we don't like him either".Verulamius said:
It was interesting on newsnight that Jacob Rees-Mogg was claiming that the Council of Ministers was more democratic than the Parliament as it represented member states.
From memory this is similar to the Delors/Thatcher arguments of No, No, No! fame.
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Howard tweeting away0
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Okay, who put £2.20 on?
steve hawkes @steve_hawkes 27s
Paddy Power suspend betting on Nigel Farage standing in Thanet South0 -
I'm on for £25 with Shadsy at 2-1TheScreamingEagles said:Okay, who put £2.20 on?
steve hawkes @steve_hawkes 27s
Paddy Power suspend betting on Nigel Farage standing in Thanet South
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Trust Dennis Skinner to be rude.0
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The reform I'd favour would be to have a higher rate of alcohol duty for off license sales of alcohol, so that there is an implicit subsidy for the licensee's duty to help preserve public order - a failure of which I understand can lead to an on license being revoked.dyedwoolie said:Yes, the smoking ban has made it very difficult, although it has forced us to look outside the box to keep trade up. It's the supermarkets that are the big enemy, selling at a loss/bare minimum because they can. I'm lucky in being the only pub in the village, but I have to put a constant stream of activity on to hold up. You also have the dichotomy of Wetherspoons running the exact opposite strategy of the PubCos in towns which doesn't help, and the free houses stuck in the middle not knowing whether to undercut tied houses and compete with Wetherspoons (good luck with that) or cash in on cheaper wholsesale and match the tied houses for price and risk losing trade.
It's not the game it used to be, but that I'm afraid is Fatchas fault. Alcohol should never have been farmed out to anyone who fancied selling it. Keep it in pubs and off licenses and we'd all have a trade to fight in, and there wouldn't be such a rampant home drinking culture, pre-drinking or any of the other daft innovations of the last 25 years.
Combine that with a law preventing supermarkets from selling alcohol at below the rate of duty and you'd have a chance of tilting the balance back a bit.0 -
Yay tax cuts.0
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Wheres the banging on the door, why was Bercow not being dragged !
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Ah there it is, the speaker should still be dragged though.0 -
Mr. Eagles, surely you mean 'a rise in council tax to fund free childcare so that the UK can aspire to the dizzying heights of the eurozone's growth in GDP'?0
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I always love the discongruity of the Queen mouthing political platitudes.0
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Yes, that could start to shift the balance.OblitusSumMe said:
The reform I'd favour would be to have a higher rate of alcohol duty for off license sales of alcohol, so that there is an implicit subsidy for the licensee's duty to help preserve public order - a failure of which I understand can lead to an on license being revoked.dyedwoolie said:Yes, the smoking ban has made it very difficult, although it has forced us to look outside the box to keep trade up. It's the supermarkets that are the big enemy, selling at a loss/bare minimum because they can. I'm lucky in being the only pub in the village, but I have to put a constant stream of activity on to hold up. You also have the dichotomy of Wetherspoons running the exact opposite strategy of the PubCos in towns which doesn't help, and the free houses stuck in the middle not knowing whether to undercut tied houses and compete with Wetherspoons (good luck with that) or cash in on cheaper wholsesale and match the tied houses for price and risk losing trade.
It's not the game it used to be, but that I'm afraid is Fatchas fault. Alcohol should never have been farmed out to anyone who fancied selling it. Keep it in pubs and off licenses and we'd all have a trade to fight in, and there wouldn't be such a rampant home drinking culture, pre-drinking or any of the other daft innovations of the last 25 years.
Combine that with a law preventing supermarkets from selling alcohol at below the rate of duty and you'd have a chance of tilting the balance back a bit.
I'd also favour going back to the old licensing hours system. When pubs could only open 11-2 and 5-11 (or variants thereof) it meant the lunch crowd knew when to be there etc, especially good for weekend lunchtimes, and helped with the public order side of things. Now there is an expectation you will be open 'whenever' with the associated cost in time and money of providing that service.0 -
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Watching without sound, looked like Cameron and Miliband were getting along better than Osborne and Balls though !0
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The deal is that he withdraws from the running and in return he gets to be Prime Minister of Great Britain.antifrank said:
It wouldn't be that surprising. He supposedly didn't really want this job in the first place. It's easier to find one man a consolation prize than to find an entire country a consolation prize.Slackbladder said:Vincenzo Scarpetta @LondonerVince · 11 mins
Via @straneuropa: Rumours that #Juncker is about to pull out of EC President race. Big if true. Official confirmation needed. #EP20140 -
Does Balls get on with anyone? He's the fat lonely kid at school who eschews friendship.Pulpstar said:Watching without sound, looked like Cameron and Miliband were getting along better than Osborne and Balls though !
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One assumes that he got on well with Brown. Says it all.dyedwoolie said:
Does Balls get on with anyone? He's the fat lonely kid at school who eschews friendship.Pulpstar said:Watching without sound, looked like Cameron and Miliband were getting along better than Osborne and Balls though !
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Some dodgy bloke and Roger Helmer
Ladbrokes Politics @LadPolitics 1m
Roger and me.
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Mr. Eagles, looks like a shady fellow to me.0
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Just a thought, but the Queen is definitely looking a lot more "frail" this year (though making a great show of hiding it)0
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So there is a chance that the recall power will be introduced, that's good.
Naturally it's only happening just before there will be more Labour MPs in Parliament to recall, but better late than not at all.0 -
Jim Waterson @jimwaterson 48s
Four page boys came in with the Queen.... three leave, cos one's fainted in the course of that speech.0 -
Ahhh, yes, the pious religious kid at school who nicks the sherbet dips and cries to God about it at bedtime.TheWatcher said:
One assumes that he got on well with Brown. Says it all.dyedwoolie said:
Does Balls get on with anyone? He's the fat lonely kid at school who eschews friendship.Pulpstar said:Watching without sound, looked like Cameron and Miliband were getting along better than Osborne and Balls though !
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Looks like theses one fewer pages bearing the robe on exit, apparently one of the poor lads fainted with all the excitement/pressure. Bless.0
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To the tower with him! Disgraceful lack of spine,ToryJim said:Looks like theses one fewer pages bearing the robe on exit, apparently one of the poor lads fainted with all the excitement/pressure. Bless.
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You mean reduce beer duty in pubs rather than push it up in off licences... we don't want more beer taxes..OblitusSumMe said:
The reform I'd favour would be to have a higher rate of alcohol duty for off license sales of alcohol, so that there is an implicit subsidy for the licensee's duty to help preserve public order - a failure of which I understand can lead to an on license being revoked.dyedwoolie said:Yes, the smoking ban has made it very difficult, although it has forced us to look outside the box to keep trade up. It's the supermarkets that are the big enemy, selling at a loss/bare minimum because they can. I'm lucky in being the only pub in the village, but I have to put a constant stream of activity on to hold up. You also have the dichotomy of Wetherspoons running the exact opposite strategy of the PubCos in towns which doesn't help, and the free houses stuck in the middle not knowing whether to undercut tied houses and compete with Wetherspoons (good luck with that) or cash in on cheaper wholsesale and match the tied houses for price and risk losing trade.
It's not the game it used to be, but that I'm afraid is Fatchas fault. Alcohol should never have been farmed out to anyone who fancied selling it. Keep it in pubs and off licenses and we'd all have a trade to fight in, and there wouldn't be such a rampant home drinking culture, pre-drinking or any of the other daft innovations of the last 25 years.
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Oh come on, they are only 8-10 years old. It must be very nerve-wracking.dyedwoolie said:
To the tower with him! Disgraceful lack of spine,ToryJim said:Looks like theses one fewer pages bearing the robe on exit, apparently one of the poor lads fainted with all the excitement/pressure. Bless.
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No, make supermarkets and corner shops price it appropriately. Nobody should be able to buy 12 bottles of premium lager for £8.TGOHF said:
You mean reduce beer duty in pubs rather than push it up in off licences... we don't want more beer taxes..OblitusSumMe said:
The reform I'd favour would be to have a higher rate of alcohol duty for off license sales of alcohol, so that there is an implicit subsidy for the licensee's duty to help preserve public order - a failure of which I understand can lead to an on license being revoked.dyedwoolie said:Yes, the smoking ban has made it very difficult, although it has forced us to look outside the box to keep trade up. It's the supermarkets that are the big enemy, selling at a loss/bare minimum because they can. I'm lucky in being the only pub in the village, but I have to put a constant stream of activity on to hold up. You also have the dichotomy of Wetherspoons running the exact opposite strategy of the PubCos in towns which doesn't help, and the free houses stuck in the middle not knowing whether to undercut tied houses and compete with Wetherspoons (good luck with that) or cash in on cheaper wholsesale and match the tied houses for price and risk losing trade.
It's not the game it used to be, but that I'm afraid is Fatchas fault. Alcohol should never have been farmed out to anyone who fancied selling it. Keep it in pubs and off licenses and we'd all have a trade to fight in, and there wouldn't be such a rampant home drinking culture, pre-drinking or any of the other daft innovations of the last 25 years.
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If an 88 year old Monarch and her near 93 year old spouse can maintain the pace of the Queen's Speech, then an 8 to 10 year old should be able to as well.ToryJim said:
Oh come on, they are only 8-10 years old. It must be very nerve-wracking.dyedwoolie said:
To the tower with him! Disgraceful lack of spine,ToryJim said:Looks like theses one fewer pages bearing the robe on exit, apparently one of the poor lads fainted with all the excitement/pressure. Bless.
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Old enough to faint, old enough to be incarcerated at her majesty's pleasure.ToryJim said:
Oh come on, they are only 8-10 years old. It must be very nerve-wracking.dyedwoolie said:
To the tower with him! Disgraceful lack of spine,ToryJim said:Looks like theses one fewer pages bearing the robe on exit, apparently one of the poor lads fainted with all the excitement/pressure. Bless.
An example must be set ;-)
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Nobody should drink lager lets be honest.dyedwoolie said:
No, make supermarkets and corner shops price it appropriately. Nobody should be able to buy 12 bottles of premium lager for £8.TGOHF said:
You mean reduce beer duty in pubs rather than push it up in off licences... we don't want more beer taxes..OblitusSumMe said:
The reform I'd favour would be to have a higher rate of alcohol duty for off license sales of alcohol, so that there is an implicit subsidy for the licensee's duty to help preserve public order - a failure of which I understand can lead to an on license being revoked.dyedwoolie said:Yes, the smoking ban has made it very difficult, although it has forced us to look outside the box to keep trade up. It's the supermarkets that are the big enemy, selling at a loss/bare minimum because they can. I'm lucky in being the only pub in the village, but I have to put a constant stream of activity on to hold up. You also have the dichotomy of Wetherspoons running the exact opposite strategy of the PubCos in towns which doesn't help, and the free houses stuck in the middle not knowing whether to undercut tied houses and compete with Wetherspoons (good luck with that) or cash in on cheaper wholsesale and match the tied houses for price and risk losing trade.
It's not the game it used to be, but that I'm afraid is Fatchas fault. Alcohol should never have been farmed out to anyone who fancied selling it. Keep it in pubs and off licenses and we'd all have a trade to fight in, and there wouldn't be such a rampant home drinking culture, pre-drinking or any of the other daft innovations of the last 25 years.
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Caveat - I am rather selfish here for business reasons!
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I mean solely to introduce a differential.TGOHF said:
You mean reduce beer duty in pubs rather than push it up in off licences... we don't want more beer taxes..OblitusSumMe said:
The reform I'd favour would be to have a higher rate of alcohol duty for off license sales of alcohol, so that there is an implicit subsidy for the licensee's duty to help preserve public order - a failure of which I understand can lead to an on license being revoked.dyedwoolie said:Yes, the smoking ban has made it very difficult, although it has forced us to look outside the box to keep trade up. It's the supermarkets that are the big enemy, selling at a loss/bare minimum because they can. I'm lucky in being the only pub in the village, but I have to put a constant stream of activity on to hold up. You also have the dichotomy of Wetherspoons running the exact opposite strategy of the PubCos in towns which doesn't help, and the free houses stuck in the middle not knowing whether to undercut tied houses and compete with Wetherspoons (good luck with that) or cash in on cheaper wholsesale and match the tied houses for price and risk losing trade.
It's not the game it used to be, but that I'm afraid is Fatchas fault. Alcohol should never have been farmed out to anyone who fancied selling it. Keep it in pubs and off licenses and we'd all have a trade to fight in, and there wouldn't be such a rampant home drinking culture, pre-drinking or any of the other daft innovations of the last 25 years.
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I must say this lack of charity to a very nervous young boy is really surprising. Thankfully it won't be shared by Her Majesty who will doubtless make sure the young lad doesn't feel as if he spoiled anything.0
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Has any pub/offy/home/supermarket differential been created in the Queens speech ?0
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I like Mr. Me's idea of higher duty for off sales and a restriction on supermarket prices and I am in full agreement of going back to the old two session licensing hours, even if they did produce some strange anomalies.dyedwoolie said:
Yes, that could start to shift the balance.OblitusSumMe said:
The reform I'd favour would be to have a higher rate of alcohol duty for off license sales of alcohol, so that there is an implicit subsidy for the licensee's duty to help preserve public order - a failure of which I understand can lead to an on license being revoked.dyedwoolie said:Yes, the smoking ban has made it very difficult, although it has forced us to look outside the box to keep trade up. It's the supermarkets that are the big enemy, selling at a loss/bare minimum because they can. I'm lucky in being the only pub in the village, but I have to put a constant stream of activity on to hold up. You also have the dichotomy of Wetherspoons running the exact opposite strategy of the PubCos in towns which doesn't help, and the free houses stuck in the middle not knowing whether to undercut tied houses and compete with Wetherspoons (good luck with that) or cash in on cheaper wholsesale and match the tied houses for price and risk losing trade.
It's not the game it used to be, but that I'm afraid is Fatchas fault. Alcohol should never have been farmed out to anyone who fancied selling it. Keep it in pubs and off licenses and we'd all have a trade to fight in, and there wouldn't be such a rampant home drinking culture, pre-drinking or any of the other daft innovations of the last 25 years.
Combine that with a law preventing supermarkets from selling alcohol at below the rate of duty and you'd have a chance of tilting the balance back a bit.
I'd also favour going back to the old licensing hours system. When pubs could only open 11-2 and 5-11 (or variants thereof) it meant the lunch crowd knew when to be there etc, especially good for weekend lunchtimes, and helped with the public order side of things. Now there is an expectation you will be open 'whenever' with the associated cost in time and money of providing that service.
However, the real problem with pubs at the moment is the prices they charge. I have no beef with the landlords here, they are struggling to make a living but the prices in pubs has now reached the point where they are getting beyond the ordinary bloke. A pint of Guinness in an ordinary pub in Brighton the other week was £4.80. A sandwich in my local village pub is £6.85 and a pint of Harvey's Best £3.80. When my boy and I stopped off at a rural pub the other week two pints each and two slices of cheese on toast came to just under thirty quid. These are crazy prices and until they are addressed more and more pubs will close.0 -
He should lose XBox rights for 6 months and be sent to stay the f&&k awake camp.ToryJim said:I must say this lack of charity to a very nervous young boy is really surprising. Thankfully it won't be shared by Her Majesty who will doubtless make sure the young lad doesn't feel as if he spoiled anything.
I am of course joking. Poor lad.
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I was just yanking your chain.ToryJim said:I must say this lack of charity to a very nervous young boy is really surprising. Thankfully it won't be shared by Her Majesty who will doubtless make sure the young lad doesn't feel as if he spoiled anything.
Having a friend in the Grenadier Guards, I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who attends her Majesty, the protocol alone is enough to make anyone feint.
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F1: early bet (NB not a tip).
Backed Perez to be winner without Rosberg/Hamilton (each way) at 34, Ladbrokes. Canada's a collection of straight lines and slow corners. Engines should matter most. Even though I think others stand a good chance his odds are just too long. When both have finished races, he's 2-2 with Hulkenberg.
Ferrari are bringing upgrades, but if recent history is a guide they should make the car slower. 50/50 chance of Vettel's car failing. Red Bull may well be hampered by the premium on straight line speed. Williams have great potential but have largely squandered their best opportunities this year and underperformed a bit in the races.
If we assume a Mercedes 1-2 (not the most heroic of assumptions) then Perez being top 5 must be something like 4, not 7.5, and there's an off-chance he might nab the podium (one of his Sauber podium places was in Canada).0 -
Pubs can only charge relative to the cost to them wholesale.HurstLlama said:
I like Mr. Me's idea of higher duty for off sales and a restriction on supermarket prices and I am in full agreement of going back to the old two session licensing hours, even if they did produce some strange anomalies.
However, the real problem with pubs at the moment is the prices they charge. I have no beef with the landlords here, they are struggling to make a living but the prices in pubs has now reached the point where they are getting beyond the ordinary bloke. A pint of Guinness in an ordinary pub in Brighton the other week was £4.80. A sandwich in my local village pub is £6.85 and a pint of Harvey's Best £3.80. When my boy and I stopped off at a rural pub the other week two pints each and two slices of cheese on toast came to just under thirty quid. These are crazy prices and until they are addressed more and more pubs will close.
Step forward the PubCos.......
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Iain Duncan Smith MP @IDS_MP 2h
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Indeed. I understand HM is always personally concerned to put people at their ease if they feel they've made a mistake. I'm sure the kid will be really upset so I hope he gets put at his ease. I'd hate to be that close to the ceremonial I'd go to bits, I get very nervous in crowded rooms at the best of times.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was just yanking your chain.ToryJim said:I must say this lack of charity to a very nervous young boy is really surprising. Thankfully it won't be shared by Her Majesty who will doubtless make sure the young lad doesn't feel as if he spoiled anything.
Having a friend in the Grenadier Guards, I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who attends her Majesty, the protocol alone is enough to make anyone feint.0 -
Just imagine doing all that wearing a Bearskin headgear during the summer.ToryJim said:
Indeed. I understand HM is always personally concerned to put people at their ease if they feel they've made a mistake. I'm sure the kid will be really upset so I hope he gets put at his ease. I'd hate to be that close to the ceremonial I'd go to bits, I get very nervous in crowded rooms at the best of times.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was just yanking your chain.ToryJim said:I must say this lack of charity to a very nervous young boy is really surprising. Thankfully it won't be shared by Her Majesty who will doubtless make sure the young lad doesn't feel as if he spoiled anything.
Having a friend in the Grenadier Guards, I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who attends her Majesty, the protocol alone is enough to make anyone feint.0 -
I quite agree, Mr. Woolie. As I said I have no beef with the landlords and in my first post on this subject this morning I explicitly mentioned Punch Taverns as an example of the greedy grasping PubCos that came about because some Conservative idiot, who probably never went to a pub more than once a year and who didn't understand the trade, thought he could alter the market for the good of consumers.dyedwoolie said:
Pubs can only charge relative to the cost to them wholesale.HurstLlama said:
I like Mr. Me's idea of higher duty for off sales and a restriction on supermarket prices and I am in full agreement of going back to the old two session licensing hours, even if they did produce some strange anomalies.
However, the real problem with pubs at the moment is the prices they charge. I have no beef with the landlords here, they are struggling to make a living but the prices in pubs has now reached the point where they are getting beyond the ordinary bloke. A pint of Guinness in an ordinary pub in Brighton the other week was £4.80. A sandwich in my local village pub is £6.85 and a pint of Harvey's Best £3.80. When my boy and I stopped off at a rural pub the other week two pints each and two slices of cheese on toast came to just under thirty quid. These are crazy prices and until they are addressed more and more pubs will close.
Step forward the PubCos.......
The fact remains that drinkers are being priced out of pubs.0 -
The Queens Speech: should make a film of it.0
