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  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,809
    Nigelb said:

    As for your 3) also provide free masks to shops, pubs etc.
    Some supermarkets have started handing them out at the entrance to the maskless, and it takes away most of the arguments about not having them.

    Might also ensure decent quality of masks worn.
    Yes, agreed. The government has a huge stock of non-surgical masks from that dodgy seller. Give them out to small shops and restaurants. I think my controversial point was "no mask, no entry, no exceptions", those with whatever medical conditions would no longer be able to go into indoor public places.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,496

    This is an utter disgrace, AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.

    https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1314647752505257986

    These kids should have been given MacBooks.

    Well there is that.

    But have we just accepted that general large scale grifting is now acceptable in government, so long as it’s dressed up in a commercial contract ?
    (Which can’t be enquired into too deeply owing to ‘commercial confidentiality’.)

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,911
    edited October 2020
    Carnyx said:

    *Googles* - ah, the local equivalent of the Louden Tavern, not far from Chinatown.
    It's right opposite the Gallowgate end.
    Heaving. You can finish your pint 5 minutes before kick off and be in your seat on time.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,911

    HYUFD will either never be called polling font again after this election and will come down to my levels of credibility or he will be a God

    He was a God about Boris from the get go.
    Hopefully a one off.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,911
    Nigelb said:

    As for your 3) also provide free masks to shops, pubs etc.
    Some supermarkets have started handing them out at the entrance to the maskless, and it takes away most of the arguments about not having them.

    Might also ensure decent quality of masks worn.
    They were doing the latter in Germany in er, April.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    This is basically unbelievable


    Biden moves from +7 to +12 after the likely voter screen.

    Absolute nonsense.

    Temporary depressed Trump turnout detected.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,121
    dixiedean said:

    It's right opposite the Gallowgate end.
    Heaving. You can finish your pint 5 minutes before kick off and be in your seat on time.
    And it's glorious
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,716

    Donald Trump will hold his first on-camera interview tonight since his coronavirus diagnosis.

    He will receive a "medical evaluation" during a Fox New appearance from Dr Marc Siegel, a Fox contributor, according to the network.

    Will the prostate be examined? That would be a challenging watch.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,275
    HYUFD said:
    If voters get the choice of whether members of the Royal family stay members of the Royal family... then doesn't that rather change the whole "how a monarchy works" thing.
  • Foxy said:
    There was a short but interesting piece from John Sopel on R4 a week or so back in which he described C19 protocols within the WH as virtually non-existent. Outside the building, normal precautions are strictly adhered to but inside you wouldn't know there's a health crisis on anywhere.

    If that's true, and I don't doubt it, it would be very hard to pinpoint the source of the infection let alone do any serious tracing.
  • El_SidEl_Sid Posts: 145
    dixiedean said:

    Maybe. But I doubt the employees would.
    Debatable. Now that the weather is getting worse I know of a number of pubs that are finding that since they now need 2 people during the day to operate table service when previously they would only need 1, that actually it's not worth opening during the day and so the employees are now getting fewer hours. It's not a 9-5 regular hours kind of industry.
  • Precisely.

    In fact it will be harder to anonymously brief something if it's then going to be quoted and asked about on live TV later on.
    Is there any reason to think that the under-the-counter stuff won't continue to happen as well?

    In the meantime, the Daily Allegra Show looks at risk of two flaws:

    First is the problem we saw with some of the episodes of the Covid Briefing Show towards the end of Series 1. Most days, if things are going well, there's not much to talk about.

    Second, Allegra is going to need to know the PMs mind on everything to a public display standard. Working out what that is might be a useful exercise for the PM, but it will be a hefty time sink. And most PMs (You know, competent diligent ones) won't want to subcontract talking to the people to someone else. Can you imagine any previous PM thinking that wasn't a core part of their job?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,176
    Worth noting. Europeans have conceded they're now going to get a smaller quota in British waters in future and are now squabbling amongst themselves as to who takes the hit:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/europeans-about-to-get-caught-in-internal-brexit-battle-over-fish-qh3glkxwx
  • Alistair said:

    This is basically unbelievable


    Biden moves from +7 to +12 after the likely voter screen.

    Absolute nonsense.

    Temporary depressed Trump turnout detected.

    6% other is implausible.

    From their figures then it would be more likely 54/45 which is still an impressive lead.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,496
    dixiedean said:

    They were doing the latter in Germany in er, April.
    Yep. I don’t claim any great originality.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,747
    edited October 2020

    Worth noting. Europeans have conceded they're now going to get a smaller quota in British waters in future and are now squabbling amongst themselves as to who takes the hit:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/europeans-about-to-get-caught-in-internal-brexit-battle-over-fish-qh3glkxwx

    Has Bruno Waterfield ever got a Brexit scoop right?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,496
    edited October 2020

    We're gradually becoming a kleptocracy.

    We’ve some way to go yet...

    An Arms Dealer, an Ex-N.F.L. Player and Huge Federal Contracts for Medical Gowns
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/07/business/ppe-coronavirus-us-contracts.html
    The Trump administration awarded hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of urgent work to small companies with scant experience.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    edited October 2020
    Redfield and Wilton have 6 new polls out.

    Arizona

    Biden 49
    Trump 43

    North Carolina

    Biden 49
    Trump 44

    Florida

    Biden 49
    Trump 44

    Michigan

    Biden 50
    Trump 42

    Pennsylvania

    Biden 49
    Trump 42

    Wisconsin

    Biden 51
    Trump 41
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,434

    Is there any reason to think that the under-the-counter stuff won't continue to happen as well?

    In the meantime, the Daily Allegra Show looks at risk of two flaws:

    First is the problem we saw with some of the episodes of the Covid Briefing Show towards the end of Series 1. Most days, if things are going well, there's not much to talk about.

    Second, Allegra is going to need to know the PMs mind on everything to a public display standard. Working out what that is might be a useful exercise for the PM, but it will be a hefty time sink. And most PMs (You know, competent diligent ones) won't want to subcontract talking to the people to someone else. Can you imagine any previous PM thinking that wasn't a core part of their job?
    It's huge mistake and will be work out badly. God knows who talked Johnson into this idea, but I'm guessing we can stab a guess.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,176

    Has Bruno Waterfield ever got a Brexit scoop right?
    I'm sorry.

    This must be really hard for you.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,496
    edited October 2020
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,434
    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1314662268064288768

    Got a feeling we are entering the squeaky bum time period of the election.
  • @Pulpstar

    Redfield & Wilton - who they?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,496
    Amy Corona Barrett ?
  • Best Trump 'national' for a while, although Harris are on my 'wonky' list, rightly or wrongly.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    Just remembered we've got the SCOTUS senate votes to go through which which (polling wise) should be a good news event for the Democrats.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,496
    “What did he know and when did he know it ?”
    https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1314585033462681600
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,564
    dixiedean said:

    I couch my objection gently.
    When I first moved to Canada I hadn't a clue what a Chesterfield was. Let alone being asked to sit in the "loveseat".
    Very old tradition.

    The Crooked Spire was allegedly bent when the Devil sat on it. Hence Chesterfield as a place to sit.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896
    rcs1000 said:

    If voters get the choice of whether members of the Royal family stay members of the Royal family... then doesn't that rather change the whole "how a monarchy works" thing.
    No as they have renounced their royal status and moved permanently to California and are no longer working royals
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,434
    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1314432204852744192

    Not sure it will be worth staying up to see Trump declare himself winner on the night.
  • Is there any reason to think that the under-the-counter stuff won't continue to happen as well?

    In the meantime, the Daily Allegra Show looks at risk of two flaws:

    First is the problem we saw with some of the episodes of the Covid Briefing Show towards the end of Series 1. Most days, if things are going well, there's not much to talk about.

    Second, Allegra is going to need to know the PMs mind on everything to a public display standard. Working out what that is might be a useful exercise for the PM, but it will be a hefty time sink. And most PMs (You know, competent diligent ones) won't want to subcontract talking to the people to someone else. Can you imagine any previous PM thinking that wasn't a core part of their job?
    Firstly that's not such a problem. Daily briefings already happen despite that, the only difference is now they'll be on camera. Plus I believe some of the TV stations have already said they don't intend to screen the briefings live daily unless they're expecting major news from them. But if there is some news in them they'll be on camera for clips later.

    Secondly this shouldn't be a problem. Actually there should be no shame in a spokesperson saying "that is a good question, I will have to ask the Prime Minister and get back to you". That's what the White House Press Spokesman does quite often and I expect its what already happens in many lobby briefings. Furthermore all PMs have always had a spokesperson speaking to the media, this happening is not new, the only new element is it being on camera.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    Nigelb said:

    “What did he know and when did he know it ?”
    https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1314585033462681600

    He knew he probably had it at the debate.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,176

    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1314432204852744192

    Not sure it will be worth staying up to see Trump declare himself winner on the night.

    I'm more worried about how long it will take the bookies to settle and pay out.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,121
    edited October 2020
    nico679 said:

    Redfield and Wilton have 6 new polls out.

    Arizona
    Biden 49 (+2)
    Trump 43 (-1)

    North Carolina
    Biden 49 (+2)
    Trump 44 (-1)

    Florida
    Biden 49 (+1)
    Trump 44 (+1)

    Michigan
    Biden 50 (-1)
    Trump 42 (-)

    Pennsylvania
    Biden 49 (-1)
    Trump 42 (-2)

    Wisconsin
    Biden 51 (+3)
    Trump 41 (-2)
  • Predictable

    The four northern mayors say Rishi's extended scheme may not be enough

    It never is with labour
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Nigelb said:

    Well there is that.

    But have we just accepted that general large scale grifting is now acceptable in government, so long as it’s dressed up in a commercial contract ?
    (Which can’t be enquired into too deeply owing to ‘commercial confidentiality’.)

    Judging by all the faux outrage clearly not.
  • HYUFD said:

    No as they have renounced their royal status and moved permanently to California and are no longer working royals
    They've ceased to be active Royals but I do not believe they've renounced their royal status. They're still in the Royal line of succession as far as I'm aware.

    According to this they still are: https://www.royal.uk/succession

    I believe if there was to be eg a tragic car crash resulting in the deaths of William and his children, then Harry would be the future King after Charles.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1314662268064288768

    Got a feeling we are entering the squeaky bum time period of the election.

    There has been a stern mathematical link over the millennium between voter reg numbers is Nevada and final votes cast.

    Clinton managed to crash through the very bottom end of the ration by some distance and still won the state by two and a half. The RCP polling average actually had it going for Trump.

    Once I see the October voter registration figures I will make my pronouncement of how Nevada will go.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    And my word is law.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204

    I'm more worried about how long it will take the bookies to settle and pay out.
    There's a strong Democrat lean to states that allow or entirely have voting by mail though. I'm trying to determine that lean right now.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    I'm more worried about how long it will take the bookies to settle and pay out.
    The important thing is knowing which states court absentee votes first and which count them last.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,121
    Biden at 49 or 50 in all the "swing states" will be more than enough, whatever the gap.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896

    They've ceased to be active Royals but I do not believe they've renounced their royal status. They're still in the Royal line of succession as far as I'm aware.

    According to this they still are: https://www.royal.uk/succession

    I believe if there was to be eg a tragic car crash resulting in the deaths of William and his children, then Harry would be the future King after Charles.
    In which case he would have to return to the UK and become King and she would have to be Queen but given the chances of Charles, William and all his children being killed are near zero otherwise they are no longer working royals and the Sussexes will likely spend the rest of their lives in exile like a 21st century Duke and Duchess of Windsor
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited October 2020

    Arizona
    Biden 49 (+2)
    Trump 43 (-1)

    North Carolina
    Biden 49 (+2)
    Trump 44 (-1)

    Florida
    Biden 49 (+1)
    Trump 44 (+1)

    Michigan
    Biden 50 (-1)
    Trump 42 (-)

    Pennsylvania
    Biden 49 (-1)
    Trump 42 (-2)

    Wisconsin
    Biden 51 (+3)
    Trump 41 (-2)
    Thank you very much for putting that in a proper showing the swing format, and not the Americans lazy "in case you can't deduct one number from another" format.

    Looks like a very consistent across the board slight swing to Biden.

    Edit: I find a 5 points lead for Biden in Florida a bit hard to believe. Though if the reported major swing to Biden amongst seniors is true then it is possible.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277

    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1314432204852744192

    Not sure it will be worth staying up to see Trump declare himself winner on the night.

    Many states mail in ballots are counted first . The media seem to be pushing a narrative that’s not supported by the facts . It’s more likely that Biden will have a big lead in some states and this will reduce as on the day voting comes in . There will still be exit polls aswell.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426
    Foxy said:

    There is a nasty streak amongst Royalists certainly. Hell hath no fury than a Royalist scorned.
    True. A lot of people, monarchists and republicans, are fans thesedays of having some sympathy with royals as living in a gilded cage (with the former emphasising how it is therefore a service performed, the latter saying we should let them free), but I think the sympathy disappears if the royals themselves appear to despise it, whilst still wanting benefits of publicity from it, as Harry does.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896

    Arizona
    Biden 49 (+2)
    Trump 43 (-1)

    North Carolina
    Biden 49 (+2)
    Trump 44 (-1)

    Florida
    Biden 49 (+1)
    Trump 44 (+1)

    Michigan
    Biden 50 (-1)
    Trump 42 (-)

    Pennsylvania
    Biden 49 (-1)
    Trump 42 (-2)

    Wisconsin
    Biden 51 (+3)
    Trump 41 (-2)
    On the face of it good for Biden but on the other hand in only 1 of those key swing states is Biden over 50%, in Wisconsin and even then only just at 51%

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,133

    We're gradually becoming a kleptocracy.
    It is the Putinisation of politics, with new oligarchs enriched by the taxpayer at the whim of the great leader.
  • alex_ said:

    He knew he probably had it at the debate.
    He's probably gutted Biden hasn't got it.
  • alex_ said:

    He knew he probably had it at the debate.
    The Trump Team turned up too late to be tested. Rather than call it off the organisers took it on trust that they had tested negative before they left. At the time, this seemed indicative of nothing more than poor planning and organisation at Team Trump. Now it seems a whole lot more suspicious.

    I think there were positive cases amongst them and they knew so. What a bunch of effing liars.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426

    Lord Sumption in his Sun piece that I linked to in the last thread seems very keen on the GB declaration and its 'distinguished' sponsors. Hopefully his standards were a little more rigorous in his judgin' days.
    That certainly seemed to be the case, also in his legal writings and academic work I understand. I fear that in retirement and some civil liberty celebtrity he might let it go to his head a bit and the temptation is to give his audience what they want. I very much enjoyed his Trials of the State though.

    I feel like I can guess what prompted his forthcoming book 'Law in a time of Crisis' and its likely general thrust though

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08FKQMX94/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i4
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426

    HYUFD will either never be called polling font again after this election and will come down to my levels of credibility or he will be a God

    People can be right for the wrong reasons sometimes.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,192
    Foxy said:

    It is the Putinisation of politics, with new oligarchs enriched by the taxpayer at the whim of the great leader.
    @Foxy - I fixed that for you ;)
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426
    MattW said:

    I see that neither Great Jumping Jolyon, nor the original article, provide a shred of evidence that the process was corrupt.

    Quel surprise - another game of Attention-seeking Imaginary Whackafox.
    People are remarkably free with accusations of corruption, surprisingly. I don't know a planning officer who has not been accused of taking bribes in a very casual manner.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,133

    @Foxy - I fixed that for you ;)
    Hey, don't get me in his bad books 😬
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426

    The correct answer is sofa.

    https://twitter.com/SimonFRCox/status/1314645009992474626

    But this isn't a hill I'm prepared to die on.

    It's settee, of course. Is this a north/south thing?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    I'm more worried about how long it will take the bookies to settle and pay out.
    Plan on sometime before Jan 20th.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,716

    Johnson is (politically) immortal. He and his party's stock ascends as the nation descends into chaos.
    Kind of a Nosferatu situation. As we bleed and wither away he feeds on our blood - and our flesh - and gets plumper and blonder and ever more boyish until eventually we are a bag of bones and he is returned to his pristine Eton schoolboy prime. There is truth in this image.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    @Foxy - I fixed that for you ;)
    Thank heavens we have never had any thing like this before under any previous governments ....ever!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426
    rcs1000 said:

    If voters get the choice of whether members of the Royal family stay members of the Royal family... then doesn't that rather change the whole "how a monarchy works" thing.
    Not that it is a good idea, but not necessarily as I'm pretty sure other nations have enacted laws or rules that mean no one but the core royals get titles, that is no choice for the monarch to dole out a new dukedom if they want.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    edited October 2020

    Predictable

    The four northern mayors say Rishi's extended scheme may not be enough

    It never is with labour

    He could offer to pay 125% of people wages and it would still be not enough according to the usual suspects.
  • Firstly that's not such a problem. Daily briefings already happen despite that, the only difference is now they'll be on camera. Plus I believe some of the TV stations have already said they don't intend to screen the briefings live daily unless they're expecting major news from them. But if there is some news in them they'll be on camera for clips later.

    Secondly this shouldn't be a problem. Actually there should be no shame in a spokesperson saying "that is a good question, I will have to ask the Prime Minister and get back to you". That's what the White House Press Spokesman does quite often and I expect its what already happens in many lobby briefings. Furthermore all PMs have always had a spokesperson speaking to the media, this happening is not new, the only new element is it being on camera.
    So let's get this straight.

    Most days, this will be a non-event that's going to cost a non trivial amount.

    If the government wants to put something on the record, they have the House of Commons for that.

    Apart from the fact that the PM is turning into the Wizard of Oz, what's the point of this? Because if you really think that this will put an end to off-the-record briefings, I have an exclusive story to tell you.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited October 2020
    HYUFD said:

    On the face of it good for Biden but on the other hand in only 1 of those key swing states is Biden over 50%, in Wisconsin and even then only just at 51%

    Two of them are at 50%+ and six out of six are at 49%+

    Given that US Presidential elections never have a 100% two party share, every single one of them would essentially be guaranteed a Biden victory if his share is accurate.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426
    It's a splendiferous and perspicacious point.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,192
    felix said:

    Thank heavens we have never had any thing like this before under any previous governments ....ever!
    So? I would be doing the same for Labour, Libs or any other Public Trougher.

    Besides, my main issue was the word "Great". With Boris, it should only be used as a prefix in front of "showman" or "big cowardy custard"
  • https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/09/cineworld-staff-on-zero-hours-contracts-held-hostage-by-management

    The good news: many Cineworld staff will be retained in a job
    The bad news: many Cineworld staff will be starving as no income, no furlough, no UC
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426

    He could offer to pay 125% of people wages and it would still be not enough according to the usual suspects.
    It's hard for a casual observer to know what is and is not reasonable. Its certainly true someone will always say X is not enough, particular when having no job losses is implied to be the goal and that's not going to happen, but I honestly have no idea if they have a point, being fortunate to have received my full salary throughout.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,716
    nico679 said:

    Many states mail in ballots are counted first . The media seem to be pushing a narrative that’s not supported by the facts . It’s more likely that Biden will have a big lead in some states and this will reduce as on the day voting comes in . There will still be exit polls aswell.
    Exactly. Clear win. All over on the night.
  • HYUFD said:

    In which case he would have to return to the UK and become King and she would have to be Queen but given the chances of Charles, William and all his children being killed are near zero otherwise they are no longer working royals and the Sussexes will likely spend the rest of their lives in exile like a 21st century Duke and Duchess of Windsor
    Its extremely unlikely but unexpected car crashes are possible - that family knows that as much as anyone. Charles wouldn't have to be involved for this to happen, just William with his children on board. William is considered a future King even if his father and grandmother are alive. If something tragic were to happen to William and his children (extremely unlikely but not impossible) then Harry would overnight become a future King.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896
    edited October 2020
    HYUFD said:

    On the face of it good for Biden but on the other hand in only 1 of those key swing states is Biden over 50%, in Wisconsin and even then only just at 51%

    Biden is doing better than Hillary did in all those states but still worse than Obama did in most of them. That suggests he will certainly get closer to Trump in the EC than Hillary did but he is still not on course for a clear EC win as Obama got so it could still be very close.

    For comparison in 2012 Obama got 52% in Pennsylvania, 54% in Michigan, 53% in Wisconsin and 50% in Florida so Biden is still not doing as well as the President he served in those states, he is doing fractionally better in North Carolina than the 48% Obama got there in 2012 but worse than the 49.7% Obama got there in 2008.

    Biden is doing better than the 44% Obama got in Arizona in both 2008 and 2012 though
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,192
    Foxy said:

    Hey, don't get me in his bad books 😬
    Do not worry about it unless he starts getting a wall built with an anti-aircraft gun facing it :open_mouth:
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    So? I would be doing the same for Labour, Libs or any other Public Trougher.

    Besides, my main issue was the word "Great". With Boris, it should only be used as a prefix in front of "showman" or "big cowardy custard"
    You don't get this politics thing do you?
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,641
    Sky News headlines: pubs and bars to close in NW, not restaurants

    Boris announcement expected Monday
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,454

    On the face of it good for Biden but on the other hand in only 1 of those key swing states is Biden over 50%, in Wisconsin and even then only just at 51%

    Two of them are at 50%+ and six out of six are at 49%+

    Given that US Presidential elections never have a 100% two party share, every single one of them would essentially be guaranteed a Biden victory if his share is accurate.

    There are small vote shares for Jorgensen and Hawkins. There are always some Don't Knows and one or two pollsters include those who refuse or say they won't vote.

    In 2016, Gary Johnson won 3.3%, Jill Stein 1.1% and Even McMullin 0.5% so that's effectively 5% of vote share outside the two candidates so those numbers look solid for Biden.
  • https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/09/cineworld-staff-on-zero-hours-contracts-held-hostage-by-management

    The good news: many Cineworld staff will be retained in a job
    The bad news: many Cineworld staff will be starving as no income, no furlough, no UC

    You are wrong on the bad news. Just because someone is kept on file doesn't mean they will be ineligible to furlough or UC.

    UC is based upon what you actually earn, not what you are capable of earning. If someone on a zero hour contract has zero hours worked they would be eligible for full UC payments for whatever they're worth.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,716
    felix said:

    Judging by all the faux outrage clearly not.
    One should not be too blasé about this stuff.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    edited October 2020

    Its extremely unlikely but unexpected car crashes are possible - that family knows that as much as anyone. Charles wouldn't have to be involved for this to happen, just William with his children on board. William is considered a future King even if his father and grandmother are alive. If something tragic were to happen to William and his children (extremely unlikely but not impossible) then Harry would overnight become a future King.
    I would suspect they never all travel together.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,192
    felix said:

    You don't get this politics thing do you?
    I do get it. I just no longer give a d*mn.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426
    edited October 2020
    glw said:

    She has to speak to Boris once a week, she earns her keep.
    Boris: "Am I like Churchill yet?"

    HM: "One cannot say"

    Boris: *thinks*That means yes, I knew it!
  • HYUFD said:

    Biden is doing better than Hillary did in all those states but still worse than Obama did in most of them. That suggests he will certainly get closer to Trump in the EC than Hillary did but he is still not on course for a clear EC win as Obama got so it could still be very close.

    For comparison in 2012 Obama got 52% in Pennsylvania, 54% in Michigan, 53% in Wisconsin and 50% in Florida so Biden is still not doing as well as the President he served in those states, he is doing fractionally better in North Carolina than the 48% Obama got there in 2012 but worse than the 49.7% Obama got there in 2008.

    Biden is doing better than the 44% Obama got in Arizona in both 2008 and 2012 though
    You are comparing apples with oranges.

    All candidates always normally get a better share than they are polling since don't knows aren't eliminated in US polls. It is utterly inappropriate to compare what Biden is polling to what Obama actually got in the election, rather than how Obama was polling at the same stage.

    EG for comparison in 2012 Obama was polling between 43% to 51% this week of 2012, with an average of 47.75% - so Biden is polling better than Obama was at this stage in PA. Obama's final RCP average was 49.6%
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426

    I do get it. I just no longer give a d*mn.
    You seem to care quite a bit about it, and all the better for it.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,633
    Blimey! Like @Dura_Ace, the government says I should be an actor or commissioning editor.

    Are we meant to be retraining for jobs that, at the best of times, don’t exist or are poorly paid?
  • alex_ said:

    How they do exit polls in the US these days? I believe in the UK there's an e I would suspect they never all travel together.
    That is very sad if true. A family should be able to travel together.
  • So let's get this straight.

    Most days, this will be a non-event that's going to cost a non trivial amount.

    If the government wants to put something on the record, they have the House of Commons for that.

    Apart from the fact that the PM is turning into the Wizard of Oz, what's the point of this? Because if you really think that this will put an end to off-the-record briefings, I have an exclusive story to tell you.
    Once again are you not aware that these briefings have been a feature of British politics for a very, very, very long time already.

    The only difference now is that they are finally being put on camera, which is greater transparency. Daily briefings are not being "introduced" they have always been there.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,641
    Sadiq is absolutely desperate for a London lockdown - he has been going on about this for weeks

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12890745/london-lockdown-next-week-khan/

    Sadiq Kahn is the Sturgeon of the South!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,426

    Sadiq is absolutely desperate for a London lockdown - he has been going on about this for weeks

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12890745/london-lockdown-next-week-khan/

    Sadiq Kahn is the Sturgeon of the South!

    Inevitably re-elected?
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