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TGOHF said:

R5 live phone in on Clegg now. Lembit putting in boot.

Lembits a drunk nutcase..I saw him at the count in Sutton on Thursday night where he had to be taken home as he was so off his face...
The bloke has no credibility

Mr. Eagles, presumably the EU is the King of Bithynia?

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Eagles, presumably the EU is the King of Bithynia?

No, Pompey

Sir Morris does have a nice ring to it, Mr. StClare.

Mr. Eagles, that makes absolutely no sense.

Dr. Spyn, since women gained the vote Britain's power and territory has shrunk dramatically.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Bloody hell, the Sun are so impressed with Clegg, they are comparing him to the great military commander and politician, Julius Caesar

David Wooding ‏@DavidWooding 23s

These elections have been a godsend for newspaper illustrators and cartoonists!

pic.twitter.com/b7pTZczb3t

Not sure that's a fair analogy, Brutus and Cassius managed to get their man. Not sure the anti-Clegg faction will.

I suggest PBers check out this excellent piece by Rob Ford and the chap who tweets as election_data

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10857198/Ukip-have-torn-up-the-map.html

timmo said:

TGOHF said:

R5 live phone in on Clegg now. Lembit putting in boot.

Lembits a drunk nutcase..I saw him at the count in Sutton on Thursday night where he had to be taken home as he was so off his face...
The bloke has no credibility

He was on the BBC sunday talk programme. He looked very puffy, and not that well I thought.

SouthamObserver said:

I wonder if Chris Huhne has any involvement in these polls. He writes for the Grauniad regularly, has the dosh and is not exactly close to Clegg.

I did speculate about that.

Poor Huhne, if he had been able to keep the snake inside the pet store he'd probably be in pole position to become Lib Dem Leader and Deputy Prime Minister shortly.

Just need the Lewisham results now. Unfortunately the council webpage in question is empty of data:

http://councilmeetings.lewisham.gov.uk/mgElectionElectionAreaResults.aspx?EID=3&RPID=38134540

Can anyone find any markets on Spurs to qualify for the champs league next season?

I really want to back them, Pochettino's appointment is a real coup.

Morris_Dancer said:

Sir Morris does have a nice ring to it, Mr. StClare.

Mr. Eagles, that makes absolutely no sense.

Dr. Spyn, since women gained the vote Britain's power and territory has shrunk dramatically.

You could, with equal logic, blame the Royal Navy's introduction of Dreadnought-class battleships ...

Carnyx said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Sir Morris does have a nice ring to it, Mr. StClare.

Mr. Eagles, that makes absolutely no sense.

Dr. Spyn, since women gained the vote Britain's power and territory has shrunk dramatically.

You could, with equal logic, blame the Royal Navy's introduction of Dreadnought-class battleships ...

The country has gone to the dogs since the Labour party was formed.

TheScreamingEagles said:

SouthamObserver said:

I wonder if Chris Huhne has any involvement in these polls. He writes for the Grauniad regularly, has the dosh and is not exactly close to Clegg.

I did speculate about that.

Poor Huhne, if he had been able to keep the snake inside the pet store he'd probably be in pole position to become Lib Dem Leader and Deputy Prime Minister shortly.

I was more thinking had he won how much worse a predicament the Lib Dems might now find themselves in. A party having to resign and being jailed for being a crim would have been lethal.

Quincel said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Can anyone find any markets on Spurs to qualify for the champs league next season?

I really want to back them, Pochettino's appointment is a real coup.

10/3 available at Bet365, possibly even better at Betfair.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/top-4-finish

Thanks

ToryJim said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SouthamObserver said:

I wonder if Chris Huhne has any involvement in these polls. He writes for the Grauniad regularly, has the dosh and is not exactly close to Clegg.

I did speculate about that.

Poor Huhne, if he had been able to keep the snake inside the pet store he'd probably be in pole position to become Lib Dem Leader and Deputy Prime Minister shortly.

I was more thinking had he won how much worse a predicament the Lib Dems might now find themselves in. A party having to resign and being jailed for being a crim would have been lethal.

Yeah but if he hadn't made the beast with two backs with a woman who was not his wife, his wife wouldn't have gone to the media about those speeding points.

Stuart_Dickson said:

MikeSmithson said:

audreyanne said:

Could we have a thread about something that actually matters in British politics? The LibDems don't. Ok so that's slight hyperbole but they are a lot less significant than OGH, a LibDem, would have us believe. There are much more significant thread opportunities surrounding both UKIP and Labour.

No. Clegg's survival is the big political betting story at the moment - just see the papers and betting markets.

- "Clegg's survival is the big political betting story at the moment"

Err...

Matched bets at Betfair (£):

IndyRef winner: 437,054
Next UK GE seats: 281,779
Next PM: 27,607
Next Tory leader: 17,900
Newark by-election: 9,440
Next Liberal Democrat leader: 7,239

Scintillating stuff the Lib Dem catfight. Stifles yawn.

Now you know how the rest of us feel when every thread is hijacked by you droning on about SINDY.

TheScreamingEagles said:

SouthamObserver said:

I wonder if Chris Huhne has any involvement in these polls. He writes for the Grauniad regularly, has the dosh and is not exactly close to Clegg.

I did speculate about that.

Poor Huhne, if he had been able to keep the snake inside the pet store he'd probably be in pole position to become Lib Dem Leader and Deputy Prime Minister shortly.

An unfortunate mix of metaphors surely (but the first is novel to me and a nice one for the collection).

TheScreamingEagles said:

The country has gone to the dogs since the Labour party was formed.

The rise of Steps and Tony Blair both began in 1997. I think a collective madness gripped the nation....

Peter_the_Punter said:

First class Site, Shadsy. Complements this one excellently.

Can't see Clegg being replaced. It won't help. But if he is, any chance for my 33/1 shot, Alistair Carmichael?

No, I didn't think so.

If Clegg goes, Carmichael might well be the only Lib Dem MP left.

Scott_P said:

@SkyAnushka: .@ICMResearch going to publish leaked poll this morning... The other places they say LDs lose - Redcar/Cambridge/Wells more expected

Wells would be no surprise at all.

This is going to focus the minds of a lot of Lib Dem MPs. Dangerous times for Clegg.

Bond_James_Bond said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ToryJim said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SouthamObserver said:

I wonder if Chris Huhne has any involvement in these polls. He writes for the Grauniad regularly, has the dosh and is not exactly close to Clegg.

I did speculate about that.

Poor Huhne, if he had been able to keep the snake inside the pet store he'd probably be in pole position to become Lib Dem Leader and Deputy Prime Minister shortly.

I was more thinking had he won how much worse a predicament the Lib Dems might now find themselves in. A party having to resign and being jailed for being a crim would have been lethal.

Yeah but if he hadn't made the beast with two backs with a woman who was not his wife, his wife wouldn't have gone to the media about those speeding points.

Looking at his wife and considering what we now know of her personality, you can't really blame him.

She seems to be behaving exactly as most women I know would in such circumstances.

Hmm Isn't it the Lib Dems that say SEATS matter, not votes ?

Well I've noted that they are the joint 6th party in UK politics in terms of European seat results, level with Plaid Cymru.

Morning.

Clegg look's broken and destroyed on the front of the Rant. Can only be a matter of time, surely?

There is a slight paradox about -

The Lib Dems held Hallam fairly comfortably in these locals, Labour ~ 13% behind iirc
Labour is going to take it according to this ICM poll.

Now I know Labour's vote is famously lazy, but will it honestly differentially turn out more for them in the GE to make up that gap ?

And if they do, surely a Labour majority is nailed on, or the Lib Dems are getting about 7 seats, or both !

I think Labour will get a higher differential turnout at GE2015, but not to this degree.

Mr. Royale, I wouldn't trust a word that comes out of Blair's mouth. On the EU, he managed to give away half the rebate in return for nothing. It made Alan Johnson's renegotiation of GP contracts look like a triumph.

@ Financier
"Without London, Labour could well have been 2nd in the local elections and third in the European elections."

...and without the South-East constituency Labour would have topped the polls in the Euros
and been even further ahead in the Locals.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Carnyx, indeed, my point was meant to be sarcastic

Oh quite! But interesting to have to think that far back for a precedent for the last few days.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Royale, I wouldn't trust a word that comes out of Blair's mouth. On the EU, he managed to give away half the rebate in return for nothing. It made Alan Johnson's renegotiation of GP contracts look like a triumph.

Mr Dancer, Blair was fundamentally a showman. It mattered not to him what was in the show if anything as long as he was bouncing about the stage. Hence his ideological vacancy and predilection for destructive policy choices. He did occasionally stumble upon decent policy answers by accident. He is the Paul Daniels of politics, a reasonably likeable conjurer well past his prime.

When Nigel Farage visited Thurrock on Friday, grown men were weeping tears of joy according to Sky News, saying "Thank you, Thank you"..

Today they're getting Ed Miliband...

http://order-order.com/2014/05/27/politics-of-polly-visit-to-thurrock-dont-make-sense-miliband-attempting-to-shore-up-labour-morale/

isam said:

When Nigel Farage visited Thurrock on Friday, grown men were weeping tears of joy according to Sky News, saying "Thank you, Thank you"..

Today they're getting Ed Miliband...

http://order-order.com/2014/05/27/politics-of-polly-visit-to-thurrock-dont-make-sense-miliband-attempting-to-shore-up-labour-morale/

That suggests that UKIP is less a political movement than a form of religion. That will massively shorten it's electoral shelf life.

Mr. Financier, I'd be greatly surprised if Miliband went for a referendum.

However, UKIP's vote was significant enough to perhaps cause the matter to be reconsidered.

BobaFett said:

Socrates said:

asjohnstone said:

Devolution in Scotland, peace in northern Ireland, the minimum wage, 32% fall in crime whilst he was in office, brought in civil partnerships for gays, won the olympics for London. Public debt fell under Blair from 49% of GDP to 44% when he left office. (after 4 years of Cameron it's gone from 67% to 90%)

The mismanagement of devolution has brought the union to the brink of dissolution. Peace in Northern Ireland, he gets credit for, but shared with John Major. The fall in crime has been a global phenomenon, likely linked to reduced lead in cars, and has continued since he left office. As for public debt, either you are being knowingly deceiving in picking those numbers or you don't understand how deficits and economic cycles work.

"Likely linked to reduced lead in cars"

Really??

The banning of leaded paints and fuels has been followed by a massive drop in criminal behaviour. The link has been formed because lead has been known to alter brain chemistry and absorption of airborne lead particles has also previously been linked to criminality. The logical conclusion is easy to form, though it should be added that there are no conclusive studies yet about this phenomenon. Studies are on going in countries where leaded fuels and paints are still commonly used.

Scrapheap_as_was said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Can anyone find any markets on Spurs to qualify for the champs league next season?

I really want to back them, Pochettino's appointment is a real coup.

Leave me alone and stop taking the piss.

I know you're gutted that your 40/1 tip David Moyes won't be your manager, but it looks like Pochettino really is happening

Tottenham Hotspur close to luring Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino to White Hart Lane

Argentine expected to be named as new manager at Spurs within 48 hours as Southampton brace themselves for summer exodus

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10856706/Tottenham-Hotspur-close-to-luring-Southampton-manager-Mauricio-Pochettino-to-White-Hart-Lane.html

and here

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/26/mauricio-pochettino-advanced-talks-tottenham-hotspur-manager

Pochettino is one of the finest managers in Britain at the moment, Spurs would be crazy not to pick him and should consider themselves lucky he's on the market at the right time for them. Sadly Levy being Levy they'll probably fire him in two years when they should support him and keep him for a decade.

Quincel said:

Pochettino is one of the finest managers in Britain at the moment, Spurs would be crazy not to pick him and should consider themselves lucky he's on the market at the right time for them. Sadly Levy being Levy they'll probably fire him in two years when they should support him and keep him for a decade.

Agree on both points.

This is from December, and is still apt.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/19/liverpool-brendan-rodgers-tottenham-cardiff

@Casino_Royale - No, the results are very significant, but they are not 'absolutely seismic'. The Conservative vote held up reasonably well in the circumstances, Labour recovered from its unbelievably bad 2009 result - a derisory 15.7%, remember, which was pretty seismic - the BNP vote collapsed and probably went to UKIP, the LibDem vote collapsed and part of it went to UKIP, and UKIP also probably picked up a little bit of vote share from very minor parties like the English Democrats.

To put this all in perspective, in 1989 the Greens got well over half what UKIP got last week. How seismic was that?

Financier said:

Blair quoted by the BEEB

UKIP has "no solutions to the problems of the 21st Century", former Prime Minister Tony Blair has said.....

Mr Blair said it must also "confront and expose" parties like UKIP.

"You look underneath that UKIP facade and you see something pretty nasty and unpleasant," he told BBC Radio 4......

"You have got to take on people who, within countries, who are arguing for a combination of anti-EU and anti-immigration policies which are not the answer," he said.

"I am afraid, with those forces, you have got to be prepared to stand up, lead and take them on."

He urged Labour and other parties not to ape UKIP's stance on Europe and immigration and said Ed Miliband must "stay firm" on his pledge not to hold a EU referendum unless more powers go to Brussels.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27585260

I voted for Blair twice and also for Brown.. what did I get? A war I totally disagreed with that was based on lies, and mass immigration on an unprecedented scale that I wasnt told about that was based on estimates so wildly innaccurate you have to suspect they were lies.

What can be more "nasty and unpleasant" than massacring thousands of innocent Iraqi's and hundreds of British serviceman, on the flimsiest of evidence, while deceiving millions of your own voters by flooding their towns with immigrants that are undercutting their wages then calling them bigots for noticing?

I thought about voting LibDem in 2010, but didnt, and thank God because the last thing I wanted was to prop up David Cameron

UKIP are anti uncontrolled immigration & oppose intervention in wars that are none of our business... Two things that Labour let me down on. There must be plenty more people like me who have voted for other parties in the past and been let down. If the worst UKIP do is have some councillor say something dodgy that I have heard down the pub a million times, then I can suffer that

Richard_Nabavi said:

BobaFett said:

Blair is right on this matter.

A referendum is a sideshow that will create massive uncertainly.

Hold firm.

I don't understand this argument. Surely a referendum is the way to end the uncertainty? It's not going to go away if there isn't a referendum.

Cameron should say that General Elections are a cause of uncertainty and just declare himself Prime Minister for Life.

perdix said:

ToryJim said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Royale, I wouldn't trust a word that comes out of Blair's mouth. On the EU, he managed to give away half the rebate in return for nothing. It made Alan Johnson's renegotiation of GP contracts look like a triumph.

Mr Dancer, Blair was fundamentally a showman. It mattered not to him what was in the show if anything as long as he was bouncing about the stage. Hence his ideological vacancy and predilection for destructive policy choices. He did occasionally stumble upon decent policy answers by accident. He is the Paul Daniels of politics, a reasonably likeable conjurer well past his prime.

I listened to some of Blair's radio interview. He said that the EU is important so that nations like the UK can exercise power . For what purposes would we want to exercise power? He totally ignored (in the bit I heard) people's concerns about their perceptions of uncontrolled immigration. Until that is sorted the EU will never gain support.

The trouble is he forgets we are one of the permanent members of the UNSC. We have well formed links with countries containing a sizeable chunk of the earths population and are developing links with the most populous state on earth, the idea we can't exercise power/influence independently of political monoliths like the EU is batty.

"Someone or maybe a group of Lib Dems are spending serious money trying to oust Clegg"

Leading lights in this are clearly the Social Liberal groups acting with a £ backer or two. The main name that is primarily being proposed is Cable's. Also notable is the unusually quiet sh*t of the year, Oakeshott.