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Has anyone heard from AlanBrooke or JossiasJessup? The both seem to have gone AWOL from the site, I hope both are OK.0
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Purcell singers better behave.volcanopete said:Police arrest man for use of the word "arse" when singing.Free speech clearly not allowed by Hull plod.I think some PBerrs are looking at a very long stretch if previous offences are taken into account,especially those who have used the word "stick" to accompany it.Plod OTT IMHO.
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Anti-fracking-campaigner-arrested-Beverley-using/story-21138031-detail/story.html
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Nothing silly about it , perfectly valid riposte to a moronic poster , who does nothing but troll and post huge whoppers.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:
Really? I didn't know Scotland was occupied during the war, so you must be referring to the outstanding way in which Petain fought at Verdun. What I do know is that it was the likes of the Conservatives and Unionists who got banged up or deported for the duration. You might like to read up abut the likes of Captain Ramsay and the Master of Sempill.MonikerDiCanio said:
We're fortunate that the Polish flyers took a more robust response to the Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:
He'd be very upset if he heard you say that ... curious, though, that the Tories and UKIP spend so much time talking about the Great War and the Battle of Britain (complete with Spitfires from a Polish squadron). Not very well targeted if people would still welcome Germans rather than people from a country with which the UK never had any armed combat per se IIRC (at least not since it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire).Charles said:
Don't be silly. He was Austrian. ;-)surbiton said:
Is it because we secretly like Adolf Hitler ?isam said:SouthamObserver said:
And the question the UKIP voters in that poll were asked is would you be comfortable with a Romanian family next door.isam said:
The question Farage was asked was "Would you be comfortable with a g roup of Romanian men moving in next door" not " a Romanian family".SouthamObserver said:
All the signs are that most people in this country are part of the metropolitan, left-liberal, sneering, anti-WWC establishment.CarlottaVance said:UKIP, Farage & Romanians next door:
Is Racist - net (change vs week ago)
UKIP: +7 (+6)
Farage: -5 (+18)
Comfortable with Romanian (German) family next door (net):
Con: +1 (+63)
Lab: +25 (+61)
LD: +50 (+75)
UKIP: -55 (+16)
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So I have it and I would say he is a YES from that interview. He did give a very balanced opinion but it seems he has a vote and is a YES, good for him.Scott_P said:
So rather than watch the interview, make up your own mind, then enter a debate, you would rather stick with your interpretation of someone else's view of what he said.malcolmg said:
So unless you can come up with something I will go by Yorkcity's excellent description.
That's rather sad.
He did not endorse a Unionist position. Watch the interview. You might learn something.0 -
The unthinking masses strike again
Suzanne Evans (@SuzanneEvans1)
25/05/2014 12:29
Odd, seeing as how UKIP's Scots candidate is gay! RT@pinknews: UKIP victory in Scotland poses a threat to LGBT rights p.ink.cx/1vGBfIW0 -
Did anyone see the joke that is Diane Abbott on the Sunday Politics? (She is on tv more than Farage btw)
Didnt know where Newark was #onenation0 -
The sensible way forward for both Ireland (united) and Scotland (and perhaps one day even Wales, Yorkshire and Cornwall) would be what the Isle of Man successfully already have. Full internal self government, with the UK only providing the head of state, foreign policy and the £ (defence being arranged domestically just as it was in Australia prior to the statute of Westminster when they were effectively in the same position).Life_ina_market_town said:
The polling shows that the plurality of Roman Catholic opinion is in favour of remaining within the United Kingdom. The form of political Romanism once championed by the archpriest de Valera is looking increasingly dead in the Republic of Ireland as well.Sean_F said:I remember hearing after the 1997 election that a Nationalist majority was just around the corner. 17 years later, it doesn't look like it's any closer.
I suspect Scotland would have voted for it if it was on offer in the referendum. It would have been unthinkable in Ireland 10 years ago but sooner or later a united Ireland will happen and such a solution might be a suitable compromise.
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I was not the one who tried to use 1930s politics as a guide to the modern day - just commenting initially on the slightly odd use of history as a flagship theme.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:
Really? I didn't know Scotland was occupied during the war, so you must be referring to the outstanding way in which Petain fought at Verdun. What I do know is that it was the likes of the Conservatives and Unionists who got banged up or deported for the duration. You might like to read up abut the likes of Captain Ramsay and the Master of Sempill.MonikerDiCanio said:
We're fortunate that the Polish flyers took a more robust response to the Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:[edited down]
He'd be very upset if he heard you say that ... curious, though, that the Tories and UKIP spend so much time talking about the Great War and the Battle of Britain (complete with Spitfires from a Polish squadron). Not very well targeted if people would still welcome Germans rather than people from a country with which the UK never had any armed combat per se IIRC (at least not since it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire).
I was just suggesting that if one regards the citing of 1930s 'traitors' as a useful contribution to 21st century politics then it is rather to the detriment of the Conservative and Unionist side to start that particular hare.
It certainly does not detract from the bravery of many from all political sides, especially as you say the Lord Lovat and the Scouts, or the Poles who were stationed hereabouts during the war, or Hamish Henderson the poet, or the people of Clydebank, to name just a few.
But anyway back to the 21st century now.
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Just a few weeks ago some of the smugger posters here were sarcastically saying if ukip were so strong in WWC areas what about Doncaster?
General Election (@UKELECTIONS2015)
25/05/2014 11:23
Doncaster vote
#Labour 26,552
#UKIP 22,046
since 2010 locals
Lab +2.1%
UKIP +30.4%
Ed Miliband Doncaster North MP
#UKIP a Tory Problem?
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[But anyway back to the 21st century now.]
I don't have visuals - sounds like a brit took out a Kimi Ferrari.0 -
"that does not explain why people are not seeing it with their own eyes"SouthamObserver said:
I agree completely. As I have said on here before any number of times - in this country we have always tended to brush the abuse of children by adults under the carpet - look at Jimmy Saville and Cyril Smith and plenty of other examples. The grooming gangs took advantage of this and of a shameful race-based refusal by the authorities to go into difficult areas. The left should hold its hands up on that and accept the blame that is rightfully theirs.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, worth mentioning that lots of blind eyes were turned to white girls being victimised by rape gangs. The idea that certain groups might be ignored, or certain organisations might be willing to ignore them, is not far-fetched.
That said, it is one thing inflicting horrific sexual abuse on vulnerable kids in secret, it is another putting dozens of people in overcrowded housing. That would be very visible. So, if it is happening on the scale Mr Jones claims it is, and it is being covered up by the media with the BBC playing the lead role, that does not explain why people are not seeing it with their own eyes.
The people who live(d) or work(ed) in the areas where it's happening are seeing it with their own eyes and have done for years.
Most people don't live or work in the areas where it's happening but thanks to programs like benefits street a lot of people got a glimpse of the reality recently.
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/01/14/romanians-in-hard-times-on-benefits-street/
The point about Romanians vs Germans isn't so much about the differences as people as about the relative prosperity. Professionals don't generally live 12+ to a house. It's people coming to do unskilled work who do.
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Salmond, SNP Spring Rally 2014:Carnyx said:
I was not the one who tried to use 1930s politics as a guide to the modern day - just commenting initially on the slightly odd use of history as a flagship theme.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:
Really? I didn't know Scotland was occupied during the war, so you must be referring to the outstanding way in which Petain fought at Verdun. What I do know is that it was the likes of the Conservatives and Unionists who got banged up or deported for the duration. You might like to read up abut the likes of Captain Ramsay and the Master of Sempill.MonikerDiCanio said:
We're fortunate that the Polish flyers took a more robust response to the Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:[edited down]
He'd be very upset if he heard you say that ... curious, though, that the Tories and UKIP spend so much time talking about the Great War and the Battle of Britain (complete with Spitfires from a Polish squadron). Not very well targeted if people would still welcome Germans rather than people from a country with which the UK never had any armed combat per se IIRC (at least not since it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire).
I was just suggesting that if one regards the citing of 1930s 'traitors' as a useful contribution to 21st century politics then it is rather to the detriment of the Conservative and Unionist side to start that particular hare.
It certainly does not detract from the bravery of many from all political sides, especially as you say the Lord Lovat and the Scouts, or the Poles who were stationed hereabouts during the war, or Hamish Henderson the poet, or the people of Clydebank, to name just a few.
But anyway back to the 21st century now.
"The SNP is now 80 years old, but I like to think actually we're 80 years young, 80 years young in particular because we look forward this year to the flowering of our nation, to the fulfilment of the hopes and dreams we've had and carried with us for so long.
"There has been a continuing thread through these 80 years - that this is not an ordinary political party. We're a highly successful political party."
Forged in the horrors of 1930's nationalism and tending the flame.0 -
The only reason anything was done was because the Times broke the media's silence.ThomasNashe said:OK. There is something in your point about the gangs being allowed to 'get away with it' for a time. However, members of these gangs are now serving lengthy jail sentences, not because UKIP brought our attention to what was happening, but because a combination of social services, the Police and the CPS ensured they were prosecuted.
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You really are a nasty little shitMonikerDiCanio said:
Salmond, SNP Spring Rally 2014:Carnyx said:
I was not the one who tried to use 1930s politics as a guide to the modern day - just commenting initially on the slightly odd use of history as a flagship theme.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:
Really? I didn't know Scotland was occupied during the war, so you must be referring to the outstanding way in which Petain fought at Verdun. What I do know is that it was the likes of the Conservatives and Unionists who got banged up or deported for the duration. You might like to read up abut the likes of Captain Ramsay and the Master of Sempill.MonikerDiCanio said:
We're fortunate that the Polish flyers took a more robust response to the Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:[edited down]
He'd be very upset if he heard you say that ... curious, though, that the Tories and UKIP spend so much time talking about the Great War and the Battle of Britain (complete with Spitfires from a Polish squadron). Not very well targeted if people would still welcome Germans rather than people from a country with which the UK never had any armed combat per se IIRC (at least not since it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire).
I was just suggesting that if one regards the citing of 1930s 'traitors' as a useful contribution to 21st century politics then it is rather to the detriment of the Conservative and Unionist side to start that particular hare.
It certainly does not detract from the bravery of many from all political sides, especially as you say the Lord Lovat and the Scouts, or the Poles who were stationed hereabouts during the war, or Hamish Henderson the poet, or the people of Clydebank, to name just a few.
But anyway back to the 21st century now.
"The SNP is now 80 years old, but I like to think actually we're 80 years young, 80 years young in particular because we look forward this year to the flowering of our nation, to the fulfilment of the hopes and dreams we've had and carried with us for so long.
"There has been a continuing thread through these 80 years - that this is not an ordinary political party. We're a highly successful political party."
Forged in the horrors of 1930's nationalism and tending the flame.0 -
Is it whisky time yet Malcolm?0
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I'm not sure how the two got connected on the thread but the connection in reality is things happening in plain sight in certain areas which everyone in the areas concerned knows about but everyone outside those areas is completely unaware of because it's not reported.foxinsoxuk said:I have no problems with the grooming gangs being locked up, and am glad it is finally happening.
But the Hungarians that Mr Jones is concerned about seem to be an unrelated issue.
In this case houses of 12+ men mostly working illegally in some form or other.
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Afternoon all.
Does anyone know what times the polls close for the countries that vote today?0 -
Hertsmere - I think the last one is Italy at 11 - 10pm our time.0
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It might just be winding up Soubry over her comments.Pulpstar said:
How the hell do UKIP win Broxtowe - isn't it basically university of Nottingham type people. I've backed Great Grimsby, and a couple of others but just can't see Broxtowe going kipper - I think you/Anna is a 99.9% market there.
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"Partly to blame, not learned, might do it again."
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What an extraordinary comparison for you to make. If you think that the SNP is a right wing nationalist party perhaps you ought to have a look at sites such as Political Compass.MonikerDiCanio said:
Salmond, SNP Spring Rally 2014:Carnyx said:
I was not the one who tried to use 1930s politics as a guide to the modern day - just commenting initially on the slightly odd use of history as a flagship theme.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:
Really? I didn't know Scotland was occupied during the war, so you must be referring to the outstanding way in which Petain fought at Verdun. What I do know is that it was the likes of the Conservatives and Unionists who got banged up or deported for the duration. You might like to read up abut the likes of Captain Ramsay and the Master of Sempill.MonikerDiCanio said:
We're fortunate that the Polish flyers took a more robust response to the Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:[edited down]
He'd be very upset if he heard you say that ... curious, though, that the Tories and UKIP spend so much time talking about the Great War and the Battle of Britain (complete with Spitfires from a Polish squadron). Not very well targeted if people would still welcome Germans rather than people from a country with which the UK never had any armed combat per se IIRC (at least not since it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire).
I was just suggesting that if one regards the citing of 1930s 'traitors' as a useful contribution to 21st century politics then it is rather to the detriment of the Conservative and Unionist side to start that particular hare.
It certainly does not detract from the bravery of many from all political sides, especially as you say the Lord Lovat and the Scouts, or the Poles who were stationed hereabouts during the war, or Hamish Henderson the poet, or the people of Clydebank, to name just a few.
But anyway back to the 21st century now.
"The SNP is now 80 years old, but I like to think actually we're 80 years young, 80 years young in particular because we look forward this year to the flowering of our nation, to the fulfilment of the hopes and dreams we've had and carried with us for so long.
"There has been a continuing thread through these 80 years - that this is not an ordinary political party. We're a highly successful political party."
Forged in the horrors of 1930's nationalism and tending the flame.
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Wonder if Nuttall might stand there ?isam said:Just a few weeks ago some of the smugger posters here were sarcastically saying if ukip were so strong in WWC areas what about Doncaster?
General Election (@UKELECTIONS2015)
25/05/2014 11:23
Doncaster vote
#Labour 26,552
#UKIP 22,046
since 2010 locals
Lab +2.1%
UKIP +30.4%
Ed Miliband Doncaster North MP
#UKIP a Tory Problem?0 -
Do you still think UKIP are a nationalist party full of racists and Nazi sympathisers?MonikerDiCanio said:
Salmond, SNP Spring Rally 2014:
"The SNP is now 80 years old, but I like to think actually we're 80 years young, 80 years young in particular because we look forward this year to the flowering of our nation, to the fulfilment of the hopes and dreams we've had and carried with us for so long.
"There has been a continuing thread through these 80 years - that this is not an ordinary political party. We're a highly successful political party."
Forged in the horrors of 1930's nationalism and tending the flame.
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I think the SNP is a socialist and nationalist party.Carnyx said:
What an extraordinary comparison for you to make. If you think that the SNP is a right wing nationalist party perhaps you ought to have a look at sites such as Political Compass.MonikerDiCanio said:
Salmond, SNP Spring Rally 2014:Carnyx said:
I was not the one who tried to use 1930s politics as a guide to the modern day - just commenting initially on the slightly odd use of history as a flagship theme.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:
Really? I didn't know Scotland was occupied during the war, so you must be referring to the outstanding way in which Petain fought at Verdun. What I do know is that it was the likes of the Conservatives and Unionists who got banged up or deported for the duration. You might like to read up abut the likes of Captain Ramsay and the Master of Sempill.MonikerDiCanio said:
We're fortunate that the Polish flyers took a more robust response to the Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:[edited down]
He'd be very upset if he heard you say that ... curious, though, that the Tories and UKIP spend so much time talking about the Great War and the Battle of Britain (complete with Spitfires from a Polish squadron). Not very well targeted if people would still welcome Germans rather than people from a country with which the UK never had any armed combat per se IIRC (at least not since it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire).
I was just suggesting that if one regards the citing of 1930s 'traitors' as a useful contribution to 21st century politics then it is rather to the detriment of the Conservative and Unionist side to start that particular hare.
It certainly does not detract from the bravery of many from all political sides, especially as you say the Lord Lovat and the Scouts, or the Poles who were stationed hereabouts during the war, or Hamish Henderson the poet, or the people of Clydebank, to name just a few.
But anyway back to the 21st century now.
"The SNP is now 80 years old, but I like to think actually we're 80 years young, 80 years young in particular because we look forward this year to the flowering of our nation, to the fulfilment of the hopes and dreams we've had and carried with us for so long.
"There has been a continuing thread through these 80 years - that this is not an ordinary political party. We're a highly successful political party."
Forged in the horrors of 1930's nationalism and tending the flame.
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Add two more Councillors to Labour. Norbiton Ward - Kingston Council. The 3rd candidate lost by 3 votes.
12% swing from LD to Labour. First time, we have any Councillors for some time.0 -
So how much are you putting on UKIP winning Doncaster North ?isam said:Just a few weeks ago some of the smugger posters here were sarcastically saying if ukip were so strong in WWC areas what about Doncaster?
General Election (@UKELECTIONS2015)
25/05/2014 11:23
Doncaster vote
#Labour 26,552
#UKIP 22,046
since 2010 locals
Lab +2.1%
UKIP +30.4%
Ed Miliband Doncaster North MP
#UKIP a Tory Problem?
Sadly, Betfair doesn't even offer odds on DN .0 -
UKIP drifting at Betfair In-Play - Euros - Most Votes
Currently at 1.29
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I think that's a rather unkind characterisation of Carnyx.....malcolmg said:
Nothing silly about it , perfectly valid riposte to a moronic poster , who does nothing but troll and post huge whoppers.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:MonikerDiCanio said:
We're fortunate that the Polish flyers took a more robust response to the Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:Charles said:
Don't be silly. He was Austrian. ;-)surbiton said:
Is it because we secretly like Adolf Hitler ?isam said:SouthamObserver said:
And the question the UKIP voters in that poll were asked is would you be comfortable with a Romanian family next door.isam said:
The question Farage was asked was "Would you be comfortable with a g roup of Romanian men moving in next door" not " a Romanian family".Big differenceSouthamObserver said:
All the signs are that most people in this country are part of the metropolitan, left-liberal, sneering, anti-WWC establishment.CarlottaVance said:
Meanwhile, what James McAvoy said to The Scotsman:
How does he feel about the current referendum hustings? “I feel negative about the Yes and No campaigns,” he says carefully. “I’m not anti-political as a person, but I am anti-political when it comes to independence in Scotland.”
So far, he’s unimpressed by tactical debates where political pedantry distracts voters from what he feels to be a fundamental choice. “This should be a choice about identity, not about whether we’ll get oil, the pound or whether we will be richer. You know that there are statements that just can’t be backed up on both sides. It shouldn’t be a question of ‘are things going to be better?’ There’s no country in this world that says, ‘I’m really happy with this government. Taxes are great, education is great and everything is cool, because I voted for my guy’.
“So yes or no, we’re still going to be bitching. Things are still going to be s**t, or good. It’s just going to be different s**t, or different good. These politicians, you can’t trust them as far as you can throw them, and we’re getting sucked into a meaningless political debate. I will go with whatever way my country votes, but I don’t know which way I want to go yet.”
http://www.scotsman.com/what-s-on/film/james-mcavoy-on-the-x-men-and-the-referendum-1-34140400 -
Is that a recommendation Stuart Dickson??0
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Labour tightening too, now into 4.3Stuart_Dickson said:UKIP drifting at Betfair In-Play - Euros - Most Votes
Currently at 1.29
Edited extra bit: Or is it more to do with the overound % coming down?
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No. Absolutely not. It is Mike Smithson who seems to be laying UKIP at tiny prices. I would never go anywhere near that strategy. I suspect it will end in tears.JBriskin said:Is that a recommendation Stuart Dickson??
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Those more in the know, does Labour's London performance mean 4 seats out of 8 ?0
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For those who are interested in the overall picture: the Czech ODS (allies of the Conservatives) have collapsed to 2 seats, to 3 for the Communists and 5 each for the EPP (Christian Democrats) and Socialists.
How come we are getting these results, yet in Britain we aren't counting till 6? I thought there was some sort of rule we were following that we can only count a single vote when all polls have closed, but evidently not.0 -
Good for him. There are two types of Scot in this - Braveheart and accountancy- based. I would like to think I would be Braveheart as McAvoy is. The biggest error is to try to combine the two.CarlottaVance said:
I think that's a rather unkind characterisation of Carnyx.....malcolmg said:
Nothing silly about it , perfectly valid riposte to a moronic poster , who does nothing but troll and post huge whoppers.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:MonikerDiCanio said:
We're f Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:Charles said:
Don't be silly. He was Austrian. ;-)surbiton said:
Is it because we secretly like Adolf Hitler ?isam said:SouthamObserver said:
And the question the UKIP voters in that poll were asked is would you be comfortable with a Romanian family next door.isam said:
T Romanian family".Big differenceSouthamObserver said:
All the signs are that most people in this country are part of the metropolitan, left-liberal, sneering, anti-WWC establishment.CarlottaVance said:
Meanwhile, what James McAvoy said to The Scotsman:
How does he feel about the current referendum hustings? “I feel negative about the Yes and No campaigns,” he says carefully. “I’m not anti-political as a person, but I am anti-political when it comes to independence in Scotland.”
So far, he’s unimpressed by tactical debates where political pedantry distracts voters from what he feels to be a fundamental choice. “This should be a choice about identity, not about whether we’ll get oil, the pound or whether we will be richer. You know that there are statements that just can’t be backed up on both sides. It shouldn’t be a question of ‘are things going to be better?’ There’s no country in this world that says, ‘I’m really happy with this government. Taxes are great, education is great and everything is cool, because I voted for my guy’.
“So yes or no, we’re still going to be bitching. Things are still going to be s**t, or good. It’s just going to be different s**t, or different good. These politicians, you can’t trust them as far as you can throw them, and we’re getting sucked into a meaningless political debate. I will go with whatever way my country votes, but I don’t know which way I want to go yet.”
http://www.scotsman.com/what-s-on/film/james-mcavoy-on-the-x-men-and-the-referendum-1-34140400 -
The UK is a stickler for the rules, while other countries don't care?NickPalmer said:For those who are interested in the overall picture: the Czech ODS (allies of the Conservatives) have collapsed to 2 seats, to 3 for the Communists and 5 each for the EPP (Christian Democrats) and Socialists.
How come we are getting these results, yet in Britain we aren't counting till 6? I thought there was some sort of rule we were following that we can only count a single vote when all polls have closed, but evidently not.
Seem familiar.
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Nick, how have you been in politics for so many years and yet are still getting surprised at the rest of the EU not following the rules like we do?NickPalmer said:How come we are getting these results, yet in Britain we aren't counting till 6? I thought there was some sort of rule we were following that we can only count a single vote when all polls have closed, but evidently not.
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As discussed, in many Labour heartlands UKIP has become the party around which the non-Labour vote coalesces. I note that both the UKIP and Labour votes have gone up since 2010. It would be interesting to see by how much the other parties' votes have gone down.isam said:Just a few weeks ago some of the smugger posters here were sarcastically saying if ukip were so strong in WWC areas what about Doncaster?
General Election (@UKELECTIONS2015)
25/05/2014 11:23
Doncaster vote
#Labour 26,552
#UKIP 22,046
since 2010 locals
Lab +2.1%
UKIP +30.4%
Ed Miliband Doncaster North MP
#UKIP a Tory Problem?
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Since the 2010 election prior to that Labour had 2 seats in this ward .surbiton said:Add two more Councillors to Labour. Norbiton Ward - Kingston Council. The 3rd candidate lost by 3 votes.
12% swing from LD to Labour. First time, we have any Councillors for some time.0 -
Probably not a good tactic, leave that to the OMLP and Bus Pass Elvis party.
Farage did not do well against the speaker, better for Nuttall to pick a seat in MerseysidePulpstar said:
Wonder if Nuttall might stand there ?isam said:Just a few weeks ago some of the smugger posters here were sarcastically saying if ukip were so strong in WWC areas what about Doncaster?
General Election (@UKELECTIONS2015)
25/05/2014 11:23
Doncaster vote
#Labour 26,552
#UKIP 22,046
since 2010 locals
Lab +2.1%
UKIP +30.4%
Ed Miliband Doncaster North MP
#UKIP a Tory Problem?0 -
very drollCarlottaVance said:
I think that's a rather unkind characterisation of Carnyx.....malcolmg said:
Nothing silly about it , perfectly valid riposte to a moronic poster , who does nothing but troll and post huge whoppers.Ishmael_X said:
A silly point. You might like to read up about Shimi Lovat.Carnyx said:MonikerDiCanio said:
We're fortunate that the Polish flyers took a more robust response to the Axis in WWII than the SNP Petainistes.Carnyx said:Charles said:
Don't be silly. He was Austrian. ;-)surbiton said:
Is it because we secretly like Adolf Hitler ?isam said:SouthamObserver said:
And the question the UKIP voters in that poll were asked is would you be comfortable with a Romanian family next door.isam said:
The question Farage was asked was "Would you be comfortable with a g roup of Romanian men moving in next door" not " a Romanian family".Big differenceSouthamObserver said:
All the signs are that most people in this country are part of the metropolitan, left-liberal, sneering, anti-WWC establishment.CarlottaVance said:
Meanwhile, what James McAvoy said to The Scotsman:
How does he feel about the current referendum hustings? “I feel negative about the Yes and No campaigns,” he says carefully. “I’m not anti-political as a person, but I am anti-political when it comes to independence in Scotland.”
So far, he’s unimpressed by tactical debates where political pedantry distracts voters from what he feels to be a fundamental choice. “This should be a choice about identity, not about whether we’ll get oil, the pound or whether we will be richer. You know that there are statements that just can’t be backed up on both sides. It shouldn’t be a question of ‘are things going to be better?’ There’s no country in this world that says, ‘I’m really happy with this government. Taxes are great, education is great and everything is cool, because I voted for my guy’.
“So yes or no, we’re still going to be bitching. Things are still going to be s**t, or good. It’s just going to be different s**t, or different good. These politicians, you can’t trust them as far as you can throw them, and we’re getting sucked into a meaningless political debate. I will go with whatever way my country votes, but I don’t know which way I want to go yet.”
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I don't know about Mr. G, but it is very close to that time for me - just got to get the washing up done before I can bask with a medium sized (well large to most of you lot) glass of something soft and malty. Mind you we had a BBQ lunch today, so the washing-up is bloody grizzly. On top of which The Brute and Thomas are sulking like mad, being deprived of their usual Sunday ration of roast meat. Honestly, if looks could kill I'd be stiffening by now - the look The Brute gave me would have felled an elephant.JBriskin said:Is it whisky time yet Malcolm?
Cunningly, I have kept some cubes of meat back, to fry with garlic to go with the moggies supper. So I expect to sleep soundly in my bed tonight.
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DUP and UUP 'in election talks'
DUP MP Jeffrey Donaldson has revealed to UTV that his party is in discussions about an electoral pact with the Ulster Unionist Party ahead of next year's general and Assembly elections – something UUP leader Mike Nesbitt has totally rejected.
http://www.u.tv/News/DUP-and-UUP-in-election-talks/abfff7a6-6252-42c2-9a4d-4890ae1a96ca0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Will set about writing the post-race piece shortly. Without spoiling the result, it was a more interesting race than usually occurs around Monaco, more tension than drama but with a few choice moves and quite a lot of twists.0 -
I understand they have started counting the Euro votes in Ireland as well.0
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Irish elections
Elections 2014: Coalition loses out to Sinn Féin and smaller parties
Taoiseach Enda Kenny admits it has ‘not been a good day’ for the Government parties
The Government parties look set to suffer major losses in the local, European and byelections, as tallies and initial results suggest Sinn Féin, Independents and others will make major gains.
Just 130 out of 949 seats have been filled in the local elections so far but the Labour Party in particular seems certain to lose a significant number of seats.
Several senior Labour Party ministers have acknowledged it has been a “difficult day”.
In terms of seats secured so far, Sinn Féin has 48, Independents and others have 34, Fianna Fáil has 27, Fine Gael has 17, and Labour has four.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/elections-2014-coalition-loses-out-to-sinn-féin-and-smaller-parties-1.1808059
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Pace yourself Hurst - you don't want to miss the vote fun tonight. Starts at 9 on sky I believe.0
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Afternoon Morris - I am soo green on F1 this year - you would be jealous.0
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Exit poll ?Next said:
The UK is a stickler for the rules, while other countries don't care?NickPalmer said:For those who are interested in the overall picture: the Czech ODS (allies of the Conservatives) have collapsed to 2 seats, to 3 for the Communists and 5 each for the EPP (Christian Democrats) and Socialists.
How come we are getting these results, yet in Britain we aren't counting till 6? I thought there was some sort of rule we were following that we can only count a single vote when all polls have closed, but evidently not.
Seem familiar.
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The Lib Dem vote share for the Locals was 11%.The LD's usually poll higher in locals than their national polling share.(Latest figure UK Gov 9% )However in the Euros the LD's consistently poll less than their national opinion poll ratings.So what share figure to the nearest % can we expect to see in tonight's Euro results?0
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Oh, I shall Mr. Briskin. Mrs Llama has gone mad with the washing and I now have an ironing pile that would kill anyone beneath it should it topple over. So I shall be up for the fun, ironing away like mad and, II suspect laughing my socks off.JBriskin said:Pace yourself Hurst - you don't want to miss the vote fun tonight. Starts at 9 on sky I believe.
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Darling will be praying that this idiot doesn't scupper his BeTory Together outfit:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/ukip-scottish-candidate-ill-take-on-salmond-over-immigration.243136880 -
Mr. Briskin, happily, I'm also somewhat green this year. Long way to go, though.0
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Ireland Exit Poll:
http://metapolls.net/2014/05/24/ireland-european-parliament-election-2014-exit-polls/#.U4H70Kwwhok
FG 22%
FF 22%
SF 17%
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Mr G., "I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday". For the rest of the week? Putting it away with both hands before breakfast are we?malcolmg said:
Briskin , well late enough to have one if you wish , though cretins like Monica would drive you to drink at any time. I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday.JBriskin said:Is it whisky time yet Malcolm?
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The UKIP EU Parliament northern Ireland election broadcast seemed to be aimed squarely at unionist voters. Perhaps they're circling the wagons to resist the purple horde?Stuart_Dickson said:DUP and UUP 'in election talks'
DUP MP Jeffrey Donaldson has revealed to UTV that his party is in discussions about an electoral pact with the Ulster Unionist Party ahead of next year's general and Assembly elections – something UUP leader Mike Nesbitt has totally rejected.
http://www.u.tv/News/DUP-and-UUP-in-election-talks/abfff7a6-6252-42c2-9a4d-4890ae1a96ca
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Seems to be exit polls rather than real results as Surbiton says.Socrates said:
Nick, how have you been in politics for so many years and yet are still getting surprised at the rest of the EU not following the rules like we do?NickPalmer said:How come we are getting these results, yet in Britain we aren't counting till 6? I thought there was some sort of rule we were following that we can only count a single vote when all polls have closed, but evidently not.
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So Salmond will be praying that UKIP get a Scottish EU seat. That, inevitably, will be great news for the SNP.Stuart_Dickson said:Darling will be praying that this idiot doesn't scupper his BeTory Together outfit:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/ukip-scottish-candidate-ill-take-on-salmond-over-immigration.24313688
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No it wasn't 11% , that is the R and T NEV estimate , the BBC NEV estimate was 13% My actual figure is running around 13% with about 60% of the councils done .rogerh said:The Lib Dem vote share for the Locals was 11%.The LD's usually poll higher in locals than their national polling share.(Latest figure UK Gov 9% )However in the Euros the LD's consistently poll less than their national opinion poll ratings.So what share figure to the nearest % can we expect to see in tonight's Euro results?
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Well done , Briskin , you will be taking over from MDJBriskin said:0 -
CuckooMonikerDiCanio said:
So Salmond will be praying that UKIP get a Scottish EU seat. That, inevitably, will be great news for the SNP.Stuart_Dickson said:Darling will be praying that this idiot doesn't scupper his BeTory Together outfit:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/ukip-scottish-candidate-ill-take-on-salmond-over-immigration.243136880 -
Very odd, because as Ms Sarissa pointed out the other day, immigration to Scotland is already within a midge's backside of the demographic balance for pensions etc., despite what Whitehall was saying.Stuart_Dickson said:Darling will be praying that this idiot doesn't scupper his BeTory Together outfit:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/ukip-scottish-candidate-ill-take-on-salmond-over-immigration.24313688
Here's another chum for Messrs Darling and Lamont, by the way - the one UKIP didn't wan ...
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/blogger-kicked-out-of-ukip-for-denying-existence-of-holocaust-gas-chambers-.24311143
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Hurst , work Monday - Friday so out then as well most of the time, so only leaves Saturday afternoon as suitable. As before mornings are a No NO any time.HurstLlama said:
Mr G., "I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday". For the rest of the week? Putting it away with both hands before breakfast are we?malcolmg said:
Briskin , well late enough to have one if you wish , though cretins like Monica would drive you to drink at any time. I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday.JBriskin said:Is it whisky time yet Malcolm?
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Depends how late the previus night he goes to bed, I suppose.HurstLlama said:
Mr G., "I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday". For the rest of the week? Putting it away with both hands before breakfast are we?malcolmg said:
Briskin , well late enough to have one if you wish , though cretins like Monica would drive you to drink at any time. I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday.JBriskin said:Is it whisky time yet Malcolm?
I've a bottle of Caorunn gin and will have some before dinner in a little while - haven't made up my mind yet.
http://www.caorunngin.com/
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Kingston Council Results 2014:
LD 30%
C 39%
Lab 18%
Green 7%
UKIP 6%
Change from 2010:
LD -13%
C - 1%
Lab 6%
Green 4%
UKIP 6%
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Mr. G, taking over what?0
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Damn you Carnyx!! - ok, full disclosure - I've ran out, you're probably going to have to cope without me tonight.0
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Surely top F1 tipster Morris - although I think we work quite well as a team.0
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Mr. Briskin, as long as I'm green, I'm satisfied. Quite glad that your tip of Rosberg winning was correct, although it would've been better still if Ricciardo had passed Hamilton.0
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Crumbs, Mr. G., most of your best and pithiest comments on here are posted in the mornings, when, as you now tell us, you haven't touched a drop. Full respect, Sir, full respect. Others might say it might explain why you are so grumpy before luncheon, but just ignore them.malcolmg said:
Hurst , work Monday - Friday so out then as well most of the time, so only leaves Saturday afternoon as suitable. As before mornings are a No NO any time.HurstLlama said:
Mr G., "I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday". For the rest of the week? Putting it away with both hands before breakfast are we?malcolmg said:
Briskin , well late enough to have one if you wish , though cretins like Monica would drive you to drink at any time. I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday.JBriskin said:Is it whisky time yet Malcolm?
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Isn't the BBC number something different? "Projected national share of the vote" rather than NEV.MarkSenior said:
No it wasn't 11% , that is the R and T NEV estimate , the BBC NEV estimate was 13% My actual figure is running around 13% with about 60% of the councils done .rogerh said:The Lib Dem vote share for the Locals was 11%.The LD's usually poll higher in locals than their national polling share.(Latest figure UK Gov 9% )However in the Euros the LD's consistently poll less than their national opinion poll ratings.So what share figure to the nearest % can we expect to see in tonight's Euro results?
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carnyx, that looks the business. I shall give that a try in the very near future.Carnyx said:
Depends how late the previus night he goes to bed, I suppose.HurstLlama said:
Mr G., "I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday". For the rest of the week? Putting it away with both hands before breakfast are we?malcolmg said:
Briskin , well late enough to have one if you wish , though cretins like Monica would drive you to drink at any time. I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday.JBriskin said:Is it whisky time yet Malcolm?
I've a bottle of Caorunn gin and will have some before dinner in a little while - haven't made up my mind yet.
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Hmmm, I don't follow that Morris.
I want Hamilton to do well so that his confidence is up and I can start betting on him again.
My fun Kimi bet kept me interested.0 -
F1 tippingMorris_Dancer said:Mr. G, taking over what?
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How will the UK results be declared tonight?
Will it just be one declaration for each region? Or will we get results for smaller areas as they become available?
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Depends what price they aresurbiton said:
So how much are you putting on UKIP winning Doncaster North ?isam said:Just a few weeks ago some of the smugger posters here were sarcastically saying if ukip were so strong in WWC areas what about Doncaster?
General Election (@UKELECTIONS2015)
25/05/2014 11:23
Doncaster vote
#Labour 26,552
#UKIP 22,046
since 2010 locals
Lab +2.1%
UKIP +30.4%
Ed Miliband Doncaster North MP
#UKIP a Tory Problem?
Sadly, Betfair doesn't even offer odds on DN .
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Thank you Hurst , just a grumpy old git more likeHurstLlama said:
Crumbs, Mr. G., most of your best and pithiest comments on here are posted in the mornings, when, as you now tell us, you haven't touched a drop. Full respect, Sir, full respect. Others might say it might explain why you are so grumpy before luncheon, but just ignore them.malcolmg said:
Hurst , work Monday - Friday so out then as well most of the time, so only leaves Saturday afternoon as suitable. As before mornings are a No NO any time.HurstLlama said:
Mr G., "I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday". For the rest of the week? Putting it away with both hands before breakfast are we?malcolmg said:
Briskin , well late enough to have one if you wish , though cretins like Monica would drive you to drink at any time. I personally do not drink before evening on a sunday.JBriskin said:Is it whisky time yet Malcolm?
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Same principle different nameanotherDave said:
Isn't the BBC number something different? "Projected national share of the vote" rather than NEV.MarkSenior said:
No it wasn't 11% , that is the R and T NEV estimate , the BBC NEV estimate was 13% My actual figure is running around 13% with about 60% of the councils done .rogerh said:The Lib Dem vote share for the Locals was 11%.The LD's usually poll higher in locals than their national polling share.(Latest figure UK Gov 9% )However in the Euros the LD's consistently poll less than their national opinion poll ratings.So what share figure to the nearest % can we expect to see in tonight's Euro results?
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