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But if everyone gets the same value voucher and top ups are not allowed then we have something potentially quite exciting.Black_Rook said:
That would solve nothing - at least, not unless your aim is to widen inequality and make life even better for the upper strata of society. The best schools would, of course, be located in the most affluent areas, where they could afford to charge the parents a lot more than the face value of the vouchers (and therefore build the best facilities and attract the best teachers.)TheScreamingEagles said:
Private schools are the best.CorrectHorseBattery said:I don't support private schools in principal but the solution is to make state schools better.
We should abolish the Department for Education, privatise every state school, and use the money saved to give to parents as vouchers, and watch education standards soar.
The shit schools would all be located in the poorest areas, where parents would have the vouchers and nothing more.
Broadly speaking, one would then expect the good schools to get better and the bad schools to get worse. Standards would soar, but only for the wealthy.
In a free market, competition creates choice but the choices available to individual consumers are *always* related to their relative levels of affluence. The rich can afford to dine at Michelin starred restaurants, the poor get a greasy burger as a treat. As it is with dining, so would it be with privatised education.0 -
Top ups would be allowed.kinabalu said:
But if everyone gets the same value voucher and top ups are not allowed then we have something potentially quite exciting.Black_Rook said:
That would solve nothing - at least, not unless your aim is to widen inequality and make life even better for the upper strata of society. The best schools would, of course, be located in the most affluent areas, where they could afford to charge the parents a lot more than the face value of the vouchers (and therefore build the best facilities and attract the best teachers.)TheScreamingEagles said:
Private schools are the best.CorrectHorseBattery said:I don't support private schools in principal but the solution is to make state schools better.
We should abolish the Department for Education, privatise every state school, and use the money saved to give to parents as vouchers, and watch education standards soar.
The shit schools would all be located in the poorest areas, where parents would have the vouchers and nothing more.
Broadly speaking, one would then expect the good schools to get better and the bad schools to get worse. Standards would soar, but only for the wealthy.
In a free market, competition creates choice but the choices available to individual consumers are *always* related to their relative levels of affluence. The rich can afford to dine at Michelin starred restaurants, the poor get a greasy burger as a treat. As it is with dining, so would it be with privatised education.1 -
T20 is a Big Mac - seems tasty at the time but no good to have too much off. ODI - a decent pub meal. Test match - a fine banquet, taken slowly and the longer it lasts, the better the enjoyment. I don’t understand those who prefer T20. To me it just all the same, every game.ydoethur said:You know, I can watch and listen to ODI cricket and find it interesting and enjoyable. T20 I’ll admit I don’t really pay much attention to.
But without a crowd, this just doesn’t have any feel to it. At least the Tests still had an intensity and a level of engagement. But without a crowd to create atmosphere, this is quite dull.
And that’s to take nothing away from some quite nice shots Billings has played.1 -
We also have some teachers who are not the most mobile of people for various health related issues.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.
I’m used to tweaking the rooms teachers use so that our less mobile students don’t have to go up stairs where possible. I ended up having a big row with an RE teacher (long since gone) who didn’t see why he should have to move out of his room for one lesson in the week so that a pupil with significant mobility problems didn’t have to go half way across the school and up two flights of stairs.1 -
Ah now that last bit - bigger vouchers to lower means - is new and attracts a modicum of interest.TheScreamingEagles said:
These poor schools would fail and be replaced by something better, so there's an incentive for them to ensure great standards.Black_Rook said:
That would solve nothing - at least, not unless your aim is to widen inequality and make life even better for the upper strata of society. The best schools would, of course, be located in the most affluent areas, where they could afford to charge the parents a lot more than the face value of the vouchers (and therefore build the best facilities and attract the best teachers.)TheScreamingEagles said:
Private schools are the best.CorrectHorseBattery said:I don't support private schools in principal but the solution is to make state schools better.
We should abolish the Department for Education, privatise every state school, and use the money saved to give to parents as vouchers, and watch education standards soar.
The shit schools would all be located in the poorest areas, where parents would have the vouchers and nothing more.
Broadly speaking, one would then expect the good schools to get better and the bad schools to get worse. Standards would soar, but only for the wealthy.
In a free market, competition creates choice but the choices available to individual consumers are *always* related to their relative levels of affluence. The rich can afford to dine at Michelin starred restaurants, the poor get a greasy burger as a treat. As it is with dining, so would it be with privatised education.
Plus being a One Nation Conservative, I'd ensure that poorer families would get a higher value voucher than affluent parents.
Edit - And maybe free/subsidised transport for the kids to get to school.0 -
Lack of jobs in other sectors possibly?Nigelb said:
Suddenly the profession is looking more attractive.Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
Wonder why....
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jul/30/trainee-teacher-applications-surge-by-65-per-cent-in-england0 -
Recessions are a great time for recruiting teachers. It’s how I ended up giving it a try back in the early 90’s.Nigelb said:
Suddenly the profession is looking more attractive.Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
Wonder why....
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jul/30/trainee-teacher-applications-surge-by-65-per-cent-in-england1 -
The problem with education has always been these pesky kids. Get them out of the way and it looks a really good option.Nigelb said:
Suddenly the profession is looking more attractive.Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
Wonder why....
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jul/30/trainee-teacher-applications-surge-by-65-per-cent-in-england0 -
We would have to have whole year bubbles given the way our options work.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.0 -
It does mean state subsidies for those currently paying fees.kinabalu said:
Ah now that last bit - bigger vouchers to lower means - is new and attracts a modicum of interest.TheScreamingEagles said:
These poor schools would fail and be replaced by something better, so there's an incentive for them to ensure great standards.Black_Rook said:
That would solve nothing - at least, not unless your aim is to widen inequality and make life even better for the upper strata of society. The best schools would, of course, be located in the most affluent areas, where they could afford to charge the parents a lot more than the face value of the vouchers (and therefore build the best facilities and attract the best teachers.)TheScreamingEagles said:
Private schools are the best.CorrectHorseBattery said:I don't support private schools in principal but the solution is to make state schools better.
We should abolish the Department for Education, privatise every state school, and use the money saved to give to parents as vouchers, and watch education standards soar.
The shit schools would all be located in the poorest areas, where parents would have the vouchers and nothing more.
Broadly speaking, one would then expect the good schools to get better and the bad schools to get worse. Standards would soar, but only for the wealthy.
In a free market, competition creates choice but the choices available to individual consumers are *always* related to their relative levels of affluence. The rich can afford to dine at Michelin starred restaurants, the poor get a greasy burger as a treat. As it is with dining, so would it be with privatised education.
Plus being a One Nation Conservative, I'd ensure that poorer families would get a higher value voucher than affluent parents.
Edit - And maybe free/subsidised transport for the kids to get to school.1 -
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Only Barron stops me developing this thought with you at great length.IshmaelZ said:
We know what prison does to the mental health of US billionaires. It would be awful if something terrible, and definitely self-inflicted, happened before things got as far as a trial.kinabalu said:
It would. But let's not because -ydoethur said:
When they go low we go HIGH.
Plus it would prejudice the trial and possibly lead to him getting off on a technicality.0 -
It’s why training days are a bit curate’s egg: the excellent part is the absence of pupils, the rest of the egg is the fact that they took it out of our holiday allowance.DavidL said:
The problem with education has always been these pesky kids. Get them out of the way and it looks a really good option.Nigelb said:
Suddenly the profession is looking more attractive.Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
Wonder why....
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jul/30/trainee-teacher-applications-surge-by-65-per-cent-in-england1 -
One other thing I'd ensure with my education plans.
A maximum class size of 16.
One thing I cannot comprehend as a privately educated chap is class sizes of 30 plus in some state schools.
How on earth can the teacher give enough time to pupils who need help with class sizes that large?1 -
Ironic to reflect in light of that that in my first school the Head of RE and I agreed a room swap between ourselves and imposed it on SLT so a student with one leg (the other having been tragically lost due to cancer) wouldn’t have to climb any stairs.Fysics_Teacher said:
We also have some teachers who are not the most mobile of people for various health related issues.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.
I’m used to tweaking the rooms teachers use so that our less mobile students don’t have to go up stairs where possible. I ended up having a big row with an RE teacher (long since gone) who didn’t see why he should have to move out of his room for one lesson in the week so that a pupil with significant mobility problems didn’t have to go half way across the school and up two flights of stairs.
That teacher sounds like a right git. I hope he was moved on by management.0 -
Sorry to hear that mate, what's going on?Gallowgate said:
Awful mate.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
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Simple answer? You can’t.TheScreamingEagles said:One other thing I'd ensure with my education plans.
A maximum class size of 16.
One thing I cannot comprehend as a privately educated chap is class sizes of 30 plus in some state schools.
How on earth can the teacher give enough time to pupils who need help with class sizes that large?
More complex answer: lots of homework and tests to spot anyone struggling as soon as possible and then be prepared to give up lunch or break times for catchup sessions.1 -
Ours are fairly straightforward because they only have 1 or 2 actual options (four blocks, but two of them are blocked out for Languages and Humanities).Fysics_Teacher said:
We would have to have whole year bubbles given the way our options work.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.0 -
He’s moping about the Newcastle take over not happening. Must feel worse than a woke will when trump wins in November. Four more years... of Ashley,CorrectHorseBattery said:
Sorry to hear that mate, what's going on?Gallowgate said:
Awful mate.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
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I put on TalkSPORT this afternoon and it cheered me up no end to hear delusional Newcastle fans telling Adrian Durham how they are a big club etc. etc.turbotubbs said:
He’s moping about the Newcastle take over not happening. Must feel worse than a woke will when trump wins in November. Four more years... of Ashley,CorrectHorseBattery said:
Sorry to hear that mate, what's going on?Gallowgate said:
Awful mate.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
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Sorry to hear this, don't follow football myself.turbotubbs said:
He’s moping about the Newcastle take over not happening. Must feel worse than a woke will when trump wins in November. Four more years... of Ashley,CorrectHorseBattery said:
Sorry to hear that mate, what's going on?Gallowgate said:
Awful mate.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
I'm glad to read the news about Trump basically admitting he's fucked the election0 -
Well, I suppose that roughly doubling the number of teachers in the country and doubling the number of classrooms in every school would be one way to slash unemployment and stimulate the construction industry. One remains uncertain, however, of the practicalities of so doing.TheScreamingEagles said:One other thing I'd ensure with my education plans.
A maximum class size of 16.
One thing I cannot comprehend as a privately educated chap is class sizes of 30 plus in some state schools.
How on earth can the teacher give enough time to pupils who need help with class sizes that large?1 -
My history GCSE class had around 40 people.TheScreamingEagles said:One other thing I'd ensure with my education plans.
A maximum class size of 16.
One thing I cannot comprehend as a privately educated chap is class sizes of 30 plus in some state schools.
How on earth can the teacher give enough time to pupils who need help with class sizes that large?0 -
He was not my favourite colleague certainly, and didn’t last very long. We have a much better replacement.ydoethur said:
Ironic to reflect in light of that that in my first school the Head of RE and I agreed a room swap between ourselves and imposed it on SLT so a student with one leg (the other having been tragically lost due to cancer) wouldn’t have to climb any stairs.Fysics_Teacher said:
We also have some teachers who are not the most mobile of people for various health related issues.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.
I’m used to tweaking the rooms teachers use so that our less mobile students don’t have to go up stairs where possible. I ended up having a big row with an RE teacher (long since gone) who didn’t see why he should have to move out of his room for one lesson in the week so that a pupil with significant mobility problems didn’t have to go half way across the school and up two flights of stairs.
That teacher sounds like a right git. I hope he was moved on by management.
One thing you don’t want to do as a teacher is to get on the wrong side of the person who writes the timetable: not that I would ever misuse my power of course...0 -
I'm out then. Ah well. Nice while it lasted.TheScreamingEagles said:
Top ups would be allowed.kinabalu said:
But if everyone gets the same value voucher and top ups are not allowed then we have something potentially quite exciting.Black_Rook said:
That would solve nothing - at least, not unless your aim is to widen inequality and make life even better for the upper strata of society. The best schools would, of course, be located in the most affluent areas, where they could afford to charge the parents a lot more than the face value of the vouchers (and therefore build the best facilities and attract the best teachers.)TheScreamingEagles said:
Private schools are the best.CorrectHorseBattery said:I don't support private schools in principal but the solution is to make state schools better.
We should abolish the Department for Education, privatise every state school, and use the money saved to give to parents as vouchers, and watch education standards soar.
The shit schools would all be located in the poorest areas, where parents would have the vouchers and nothing more.
Broadly speaking, one would then expect the good schools to get better and the bad schools to get worse. Standards would soar, but only for the wealthy.
In a free market, competition creates choice but the choices available to individual consumers are *always* related to their relative levels of affluence. The rich can afford to dine at Michelin starred restaurants, the poor get a greasy burger as a treat. As it is with dining, so would it be with privatised education.0 -
Ours have four options; they have to pick at least one humanity and at least one language, but they get to choose which and can pick two of each if they want. Some options will have six sets across the year, others only one.ydoethur said:
Ours are fairly straightforward because they only have 1 or 2 actual options (four blocks, but two of them are blocked out for Languages and Humanities).Fysics_Teacher said:
We would have to have whole year bubbles given the way our options work.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.
Edit: and anything in between.0 -
The air waves are also plastered with adverts for armed forces recruitment, which is another sure sign of economic disaster.Fysics_Teacher said:
Recessions are a great time for recruiting teachers. It’s how I ended up giving it a try back in the early 90’s.Nigelb said:
Suddenly the profession is looking more attractive.Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
Wonder why....
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jul/30/trainee-teacher-applications-surge-by-65-per-cent-in-england0 -
Of courseFysics_Teacher said:
He was not my favourite colleague certainly, and didn’t last very long. We have a much better replacement.ydoethur said:
Ironic to reflect in light of that that in my first school the Head of RE and I agreed a room swap between ourselves and imposed it on SLT so a student with one leg (the other having been tragically lost due to cancer) wouldn’t have to climb any stairs.Fysics_Teacher said:
We also have some teachers who are not the most mobile of people for various health related issues.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.
I’m used to tweaking the rooms teachers use so that our less mobile students don’t have to go up stairs where possible. I ended up having a big row with an RE teacher (long since gone) who didn’t see why he should have to move out of his room for one lesson in the week so that a pupil with significant mobility problems didn’t have to go half way across the school and up two flights of stairs.
That teacher sounds like a right git. I hope he was moved on by management.
One thing you don’t want to do as a teacher is to get on the wrong side of the person who writes the timetable: not that I would ever misuse my power of course...
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The Dark Side Tory Boy is strong with you!TheScreamingEagles said:One other thing I'd ensure with my education plans.
A maximum class size of 16.
One thing I cannot comprehend as a privately educated chap is class sizes of 30 plus in some state schools.
How on earth can the teacher give enough time to pupils who need help with class sizes that large?1 -
Apparently there are lessons on a Friday afternoon. I wouldn’t know that from personal experience though...ydoethur said:
Of courseFysics_Teacher said:
He was not my favourite colleague certainly, and didn’t last very long. We have a much better replacement.ydoethur said:
Ironic to reflect in light of that that in my first school the Head of RE and I agreed a room swap between ourselves and imposed it on SLT so a student with one leg (the other having been tragically lost due to cancer) wouldn’t have to climb any stairs.Fysics_Teacher said:
We also have some teachers who are not the most mobile of people for various health related issues.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.
I’m used to tweaking the rooms teachers use so that our less mobile students don’t have to go up stairs where possible. I ended up having a big row with an RE teacher (long since gone) who didn’t see why he should have to move out of his room for one lesson in the week so that a pupil with significant mobility problems didn’t have to go half way across the school and up two flights of stairs.
That teacher sounds like a right git. I hope he was moved on by management.
One thing you don’t want to do as a teacher is to get on the wrong side of the person who writes the timetable: not that I would ever misuse my power of course...2 -
It is bizarre that the U.K. can happily sell arms to the Saudi regime to bomb the crap out of Yemen but when it comes to a football takeover it’s not acceptable. It’s ridiculous especially when you think of some of the previous owners of clubs they have happily waved throughturbotubbs said:
He’s moping about the Newcastle take over not happening. Must feel worse than a woke will when trump wins in November. Four more years... of Ashley,CorrectHorseBattery said:
Sorry to hear that mate, what's going on?Gallowgate said:
Awful mate.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
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I suspect it has more to do with the Saudis pirating the PL games in the Arab world.Martin_Kinsella said:
It is bizarre that the U.K. can happily sell arms to the Saudi regime to bomb the crap out of Yemen but when it comes to a football takeover it’s not acceptable. It’s ridiculous especially when you think of some of the previous owners of clubs they have happily waved throughturbotubbs said:
He’s moping about the Newcastle take over not happening. Must feel worse than a woke will when trump wins in November. Four more years... of Ashley,CorrectHorseBattery said:
Sorry to hear that mate, what's going on?Gallowgate said:
Awful mate.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
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Would I guess wildly wrong if I suggested the RE teacher had bottom set year 9 on Friday afternoons?Fysics_Teacher said:
Apparently there are lessons on a Friday afternoon. I wouldn’t know that from personal experience though...ydoethur said:
Of courseFysics_Teacher said:
He was not my favourite colleague certainly, and didn’t last very long. We have a much better replacement.ydoethur said:
Ironic to reflect in light of that that in my first school the Head of RE and I agreed a room swap between ourselves and imposed it on SLT so a student with one leg (the other having been tragically lost due to cancer) wouldn’t have to climb any stairs.Fysics_Teacher said:
We also have some teachers who are not the most mobile of people for various health related issues.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.
I’m used to tweaking the rooms teachers use so that our less mobile students don’t have to go up stairs where possible. I ended up having a big row with an RE teacher (long since gone) who didn’t see why he should have to move out of his room for one lesson in the week so that a pupil with significant mobility problems didn’t have to go half way across the school and up two flights of stairs.
That teacher sounds like a right git. I hope he was moved on by management.
One thing you don’t want to do as a teacher is to get on the wrong side of the person who writes the timetable: not that I would ever misuse my power of course...0 -
😀ydoethur said:
Would I guess wildly wrong if I suggested the RE teacher had bottom set year 9 on Friday afternoons?Fysics_Teacher said:
Apparently there are lessons on a Friday afternoon. I wouldn’t know that from personal experience though...ydoethur said:
Of courseFysics_Teacher said:
He was not my favourite colleague certainly, and didn’t last very long. We have a much better replacement.ydoethur said:
Ironic to reflect in light of that that in my first school the Head of RE and I agreed a room swap between ourselves and imposed it on SLT so a student with one leg (the other having been tragically lost due to cancer) wouldn’t have to climb any stairs.Fysics_Teacher said:
We also have some teachers who are not the most mobile of people for various health related issues.ydoethur said:
It’s going to be bloody difficult for us too, but we’re still doing it.Fysics_Teacher said:
The second one of those would be impossible for us, not just because of practical subjects but because for Y10 upwards each pupil will have a timetable that reflects their subject choices and will be different to most if not all of the others in their tutor groups. In fact from Y9 up we don’t teach any lessons in groups that match their tutor groups. That means that there is no one group for them to stay with.ydoethur said:
Because we are working in ‘bubbles:’Fysics_Teacher said:
How has your timetable changed? Professional interest as I’m responsible for writing ours and I want to know what bright ideas SMT might get.ydoethur said:
I have to prepare three sets of lessons:DavidL said:
My sons back on the 17th of next month! This holiday has seemed shorter than usual despite the working from home end to last term.ydoethur said:
I’ve had a busy day planning lessons and sorting various bits of paperwork.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
Which people sometimes forget, in answer to your earlier question @DavidL , teachers still have to do in the holidays.
I think I’ll be ready for the start of term by noon on Monday, which means I can enjoy the four weeks of holiday with a clear conscience.
I presume that working out how you are going to teach in the face of the dreaded lurgy has added to the paperwork.
1) If we’re all in school
2) If some of us are in school
3) if we’re teaching online.
As you say, this isn’t lightening my load much.
I’ve also spent much of the day reading protocols for staff on teaching, safeguarding, social distancing and remedial lessons, and getting my head round a new style of timetable.
Apart from that it’s so easy Dominic Cummings could probably do it.
1) Staggered start and end times of the school day - so no tutor time for Year 8 and 10, for example - to ensure we don’t have huge gatherings of students coming in together
2) Students stay in rooms and we go to them
3) Lessons lengthened for Years 11 and 13 in a bid to make up for lost time
4) Teaching groups rejigged to accommodate 1 and 2.
I think those are the salient points at this moment, others may emerge.
I think we are thinking more along the lines of having half in half out. We are preparing to have lessons we teach twice while the other half each time get on with work set.
For Years 10 and 11 we’re having bubbles of multiple classes to minimise disruption to option blocks, but it still isn’t going to be easy.
I’m used to tweaking the rooms teachers use so that our less mobile students don’t have to go up stairs where possible. I ended up having a big row with an RE teacher (long since gone) who didn’t see why he should have to move out of his room for one lesson in the week so that a pupil with significant mobility problems didn’t have to go half way across the school and up two flights of stairs.
That teacher sounds like a right git. I hope he was moved on by management.
One thing you don’t want to do as a teacher is to get on the wrong side of the person who writes the timetable: not that I would ever misuse my power of course...0 -
"The greatest failure, teacher is!"TheScreamingEagles said:
We should abolish the Department for Education0 -
Thaskin was apparently a Fit and Proper person to own an FA club......Martin_Kinsella said:
It is bizarre that the U.K. can happily sell arms to the Saudi regime to bomb the crap out of Yemen but when it comes to a football takeover it’s not acceptable. It’s ridiculous especially when you think of some of the previous owners of clubs they have happily waved throughturbotubbs said:
He’s moping about the Newcastle take over not happening. Must feel worse than a woke will when trump wins in November. Four more years... of Ashley,CorrectHorseBattery said:
Sorry to hear that mate, what's going on?Gallowgate said:
Awful mate.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
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McConnell's line in the sand finally discovered.
https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1288896285886619648?s=200 -
There are no teachers at the DfE, although plenty have gone on to work in admin jobs and even education management jobs (badly).Sunil_Prasannan said:
"The greatest failure, teacher is!"TheScreamingEagles said:
We should abolish the Department for Education0 -
Right now, the PL cannot afford to annoy one of their largest broadcast partners.tlg86 said:
I suspect it has more to do with the Saudis pirating the PL games in the Arab world.Martin_Kinsella said:
It is bizarre that the U.K. can happily sell arms to the Saudi regime to bomb the crap out of Yemen but when it comes to a football takeover it’s not acceptable. It’s ridiculous especially when you think of some of the previous owners of clubs they have happily waved throughturbotubbs said:
He’s moping about the Newcastle take over not happening. Must feel worse than a woke will when trump wins in November. Four more years... of Ashley,CorrectHorseBattery said:
Sorry to hear that mate, what's going on?Gallowgate said:
Awful mate.CorrectHorseBattery said:How are you all anyway
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British Grand Prix: Racing Point's Sergio Perez tests positive for Covid-19
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For those interested
The FIA and the organizers of the Formula 1 World Championship confirm that the Mexican driver Sergio Pérez, from the Racing Point team, has tested positive for COVID-19 and will not be able to compete this weekend in the British Grand Prix, on the English circuit. from Silverstone.0 -
Praise the Gods. Finally someone senior in GOP gets it.Theuniondivvie said:McConnell's line in the sand finally discovered.
https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1288896285886619648?s=200 -
Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/0 -
I think it's beginning to dawn on the Republicans that not only is Trump steering the ship onto the rocks, he's setting fire to the lifeboats too.rottenborough said:
Praise the Gods. Finally someone senior in GOP gets it.Theuniondivvie said:McConnell's line in the sand finally discovered.
https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1288896285886619648?s=201 -
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?0 -
Yup, a typo.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?0 -
Unfortunately that line is presently under water while the tide is in.Theuniondivvie said:McConnell's line in the sand finally discovered.
https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1288896285886619648?s=200 -
My Man Evan McMullin (probably my best value loser after my Stein vote percentage bet) nails it in one
https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1288912573929263105?s=190 -
Mitch only says there has to be an election on 3rd November.rottenborough said:
Praise the Gods. Finally someone senior in GOP gets it.Theuniondivvie said:McConnell's line in the sand finally discovered.
https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1288896285886619648?s=20
He doesn't state anywhere that Trump and the GOP can't cheat like fury.0 -
I get the disdain for Ashley but under him Newcastle have continually punched above their weight. As they have this season.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?0 -
https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/1288868114520670208
The US is heading towards a massive democratic crisis that could destroy the republic.
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Yeah but what you don't want is for him to end up being Hicks and Gillet style chancers. For Liverpool that wasn't a complete disaster because they were always going to be bought before administration, for Newcastle it would be tough to find a buyer that would purchase pre-administration. Aiui, Liverpool were weeks away from the points deduction and it was only because the banks forced the sale of the club before that happened and permanently damaged the asset.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?
Even Man United had a few dodgy PIKs that the Glazers used and needed to float the company in Singapore to get rid of. Whatever anyone says about Ashley, he's never going to let Newcastle go bankrupt. This new buyer feels more like Hicks and Gillet than FSG or even the Glazers.1 -
No Nazi soldiers were killed in WW1.Alistair said:My Man Evan McMullin (probably my best value loser after my Stein vote percentage bet) nails it in one
https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1288912573929263105?s=191 -
Yes, lots of Nazis in WW1...Alistair said:My Man Evan McMullin (probably my best value loser after my Stein vote percentage bet) nails it in one
https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1288912573929263105?s=191 -
Matt Hancock says all NHS patient consultations should be carried out by phone or video unless there is a clinical reason not to as he promises face-to-face appointments will still be available to people who want them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8575523/Matt-Hancock-guarantees-people-able-GP-face-face.html
WTF. How is this slipping through without uproar. GPs are going to miss a ton of ill health by going to phone/video only.0 -
Indeed it was amusing re-reading the pre-season forecasts for how clubs would do this season on the BBC. Newcastle were tipped pre-season for finishing 20th: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53554820Martin_Kinsella said:
I get the disdain for Ashley but under him Newcastle have continually punched above their weight. As they have this season.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?0 -
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Err, I think you'll find that the Wonder Woman movie told me there were loads and the Nazis were in fact the baddies in that.Fysics_Teacher said:
Yes, lots of Nazis in WW1...Alistair said:My Man Evan McMullin (probably my best value loser after my Stein vote percentage bet) nails it in one
https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1288912573929263105?s=191 -
History could have been very different had one soldier in particular died in WW1.rottenborough said:
No Nazi soldiers were killed in WW1.Alistair said:My Man Evan McMullin (probably my best value loser after my Stein vote percentage bet) nails it in one
https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1288912573929263105?s=190 -
Indeed even with all the stick Ashley gets, he's not as I understood it loaded any debts onto the club. That's quite impressive compared to many owners.MaxPB said:
Yeah but what you don't want is for him to end up being Hicks and Gillet style chancers. For Liverpool that wasn't a complete disaster because they were always going to be bought before administration, for Newcastle it would be tough to find a buyer that would purchase pre-administration. Aiui, Liverpool were weeks away from the points deduction and it was only because the banks forced the sale of the club before that happened and permanently damaged the asset.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?
Even Man United had a few dodgy PIKs that the Glazers used and needed to float the company in Singapore to get rid of. Whatever anyone says about Ashley, he's never going to let Newcastle go bankrupt. This new buyer feels more like Hicks and Gillet than FSG or even the Glazers.0 -
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Alistair said:
My Man Evan McMullin (probably my best value loser after my Stein vote percentage bet) nails it in one
https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1288912573929263105?s=19
"I am the enemy you killed, my friend....
Let us sleep now."0 -
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Eh? Its not phone/video only. It specifically says face-to-face appointments will still be available to those who want them.rottenborough said:Matt Hancock says all NHS patient consultations should be carried out by phone or video unless there is a clinical reason not to as he promises face-to-face appointments will still be available to people who want them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8575523/Matt-Hancock-guarantees-people-able-GP-face-face.html
WTF. How is this slipping through without uproar. GPs are going to miss a ton of ill health by going to phone/video only.
Frankly I hope this becomes permanent. Waiting in a waiting room surrounded by sick people is never pleasant, if the option to do it remotely is available and if its appropriate I'd much rather do it remote.1 -
Evening all
IF (or more likely when) we get a second wave of Covid-19, the only group responsible will be the British people.
Not the scientists, not even the Government, of whom I am no friend but in this instance I will cut Boris, who understands the virus better than many, a good deal of slack.
I'm out tonight in downtown East Ham - in a corner shop, six customers, I'm the only one with a mask. Most people aren't wearing them, most aren't social distancing. We may be lucky and dodge the bullet (I hope so as hundreds have already died in Newham) but there is no answer to the selfish stupidity of people.
Give people an open pub and they descend in their hordes just to have a drink - I don't get it. Is a pint "with me mates" really worth your health and your family's health?
There is nothing more important than your life and your health and your family's health and that includes the economy. As America has shown, if you put economic health before public health, both end up suffering.
I'm not suggesting a vie sans risque - that doesn't exist - but risk management and mitigation are what sensible people, organisations and Governments should be about. The problem is in the summertime people's sense tends to dissipate with the heat.
That's my rant done - hope everyone is safe and well.5 -
Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!1 -
That creates a significant deadweight costTheScreamingEagles said:
Top ups would be allowed.kinabalu said:
But if everyone gets the same value voucher and top ups are not allowed then we have something potentially quite exciting.Black_Rook said:
That would solve nothing - at least, not unless your aim is to widen inequality and make life even better for the upper strata of society. The best schools would, of course, be located in the most affluent areas, where they could afford to charge the parents a lot more than the face value of the vouchers (and therefore build the best facilities and attract the best teachers.)TheScreamingEagles said:
Private schools are the best.CorrectHorseBattery said:I don't support private schools in principal but the solution is to make state schools better.
We should abolish the Department for Education, privatise every state school, and use the money saved to give to parents as vouchers, and watch education standards soar.
The shit schools would all be located in the poorest areas, where parents would have the vouchers and nothing more.
Broadly speaking, one would then expect the good schools to get better and the bad schools to get worse. Standards would soar, but only for the wealthy.
In a free market, competition creates choice but the choices available to individual consumers are *always* related to their relative levels of affluence. The rich can afford to dine at Michelin starred restaurants, the poor get a greasy burger as a treat. As it is with dining, so would it be with privatised education.
Additionally - as with universities - there is a signalling issue that no school would want to be perceived as cheap0 -
I don't think so, I've been using Babylon for about 2 years and it's been a revelation. Video appointments are absolutely great and if the doctor thinks it's serious after a video appointment I get a specialist referral and an in person appointment with the specialist within days.rottenborough said:Matt Hancock says all NHS patient consultations should be carried out by phone or video unless there is a clinical reason not to as he promises face-to-face appointments will still be available to people who want them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8575523/Matt-Hancock-guarantees-people-able-GP-face-face.html
WTF. How is this slipping through without uproar. GPs are going to miss a ton of ill health by going to phone/video only.
My dad still uses the NHS for minor problems and it took him four months to get an MRI scan on his knee and then they effed up the first one and then it took another two months to get another one after he forced them to admit the effed it up the first time. With Babylon he would have got the scan referral in days not after two pointless x-rays, a pointless physiotherapy session and about 7 GP appointments (as you can imagine I've heard this story more than once).
GPs should be completely gotten rid of and replaced with video triage and 24h walk in centres.2 -
Fairly certain some were in WW2.rottenborough said:
No Nazi soldiers were killed in WW1.Alistair said:My Man Evan McMullin (probably my best value loser after my Stein vote percentage bet) nails it in one
https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1288912573929263105?s=191 -
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!2 -
The system works well at our practice and we have had much better access to the gp or practice nurse than ever before, and no waiting in the surgery, staight in to the consulting roomrottenborough said:Matt Hancock says all NHS patient consultations should be carried out by phone or video unless there is a clinical reason not to as he promises face-to-face appointments will still be available to people who want them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8575523/Matt-Hancock-guarantees-people-able-GP-face-face.html
WTF. How is this slipping through without uproar. GPs are going to miss a ton of ill health by going to phone/video only.
It is the way for the future0 -
I have a non-Covid health issue and I contacted my GP's surgery earlier this week. I had a telephone consultation within the hour after which my GP asked me to visit the following morning.Philip_Thompson said:
Eh? Its not phone/video only. It specifically says face-to-face appointments will still be available to those who want them.
Frankly I hope this becomes permanent. Waiting in a waiting room surrounded by sick people is never pleasant, if the option to do it remotely is available and if its appropriate I'd much rather do it remote.
I arrived with mask to find hand sanitiser at the door and two other people in a normally crowded waiting room. I was seen and left within 15 minutes.
Smooth, efficient, organised. The other two people waiting were older people but both were wearing mask and gloves and kept well away.
I have a prescription to collect about which I will be notified.
I should also add when I made the initial telephone contact, I was told I was number one in the queue.
I thought Homeworking was a revolution - I was wrong - the provision of GP care is the real revolution. Like others, I have a concern health issues are being missed but perhaps, just perhaps, Covid has erased some of the hypochondria out there.
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Difficult to campaign in a mask though. We might not know who was campaigning.Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!0 -
You are just being sillyScott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!
Social distancing does not require a mask anywhere in the UK1 -
Still should be setting an example and has he told us how many the net increase in police numbers are since the recruitment drive?kle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!0 -
Indeed, and we've seen even big clubs like Liverpool can be brought to near relegation by owners who load up clubs with unsustainable debts. Newcastle would probably end up like Blackburn with that type of owner, double relegation.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed even with all the stick Ashley gets, he's not as I understood it loaded any debts onto the club. That's quite impressive compared to many owners.MaxPB said:
Yeah but what you don't want is for him to end up being Hicks and Gillet style chancers. For Liverpool that wasn't a complete disaster because they were always going to be bought before administration, for Newcastle it would be tough to find a buyer that would purchase pre-administration. Aiui, Liverpool were weeks away from the points deduction and it was only because the banks forced the sale of the club before that happened and permanently damaged the asset.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?
Even Man United had a few dodgy PIKs that the Glazers used and needed to float the company in Singapore to get rid of. Whatever anyone says about Ashley, he's never going to let Newcastle go bankrupt. This new buyer feels more like Hicks and Gillet than FSG or even the Glazers.1 -
Oddly enough those photos look like they're both distanced and outside, not in a shop. So why would there be masks?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!2 -
There's no requirement to wear a mask outside. If they were wearing a mask, questions would be asked as to why it isn't policy. Simple as that.nichomar said:
Still should be setting an example and has he told us how many the net increase in police numbers are since the recruitment drive?kle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!2 -
How on earth are low-tech patients - e.g. many elderly - who often have complex health needs going to do that?rottenborough said:Matt Hancock says all NHS patient consultations should be carried out by phone or video unless there is a clinical reason not to as he promises face-to-face appointments will still be available to people who want them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8575523/Matt-Hancock-guarantees-people-able-GP-face-face.html
WTF. How is this slipping through without uproar. GPs are going to miss a ton of ill health by going to phone/video only.
"Seven in ten [doctors] said telephone appointments increased their efficiency, rising to 76 per cent when asked about telephone triage."
I bet they did. Nothing like absence of patients to improve a GP's productivity! Hancock in thrall to Zoom is ripe for capture by the doctors' union.0 -
No I’m not if he wore a mask at every opportunity It would help people to accept it as normalBig_G_NorthWales said:
You are just being sillyScott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!
Social distancing does not require a mask anywhere in the UK1 -
Maybe it should betlg86 said:
There's no requirement to wear a mask outside. If they were wearing a mask, questions would be asked as to why it isn't policy. Simple as that.nichomar said:
Still should be setting an example and has he told us how many the net increase in police numbers are since the recruitment drive?kle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!0 -
It's not normal outside.nichomar said:
No I’m not if he wore a mask at every opportunity It would help people to accept it as normalBig_G_NorthWales said:
You are just being sillyScott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!
Social distancing does not require a mask anywhere in the UK2 -
Maybe that is so, it couldn't hurt too much, nevertheless the strength of the condemnation has to be proportionate and if he has not ignored what the actual rules are I find it hard to see how we can get too upset at that, certainly not to the level of exclamatory incredulity shown.nichomar said:
Still should be setting an examplekle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!
If it is not even official advice to wear a mask in that situation then even if it would be useful for him to wear a mask even when not required, then how can we condemn him for not wearing one? It's not setting an example even since people aren't being told to wear on at such a time, so it might well confuse the message. It could confuse people as to what the law is.
That applies absolutely to Keir and others as well.3 -
Politico.com - [US House] Ethics Committee reprimands Schweikert for slew of violations
The decision could be a major problem for the Arizona Republican's reelection bid.
GOP Rep. David Schweikert on Thursday was formally reprimanded by the House Ethics Committee and ordered to pay a $50,000 fine for misusing official funds after a two-year probe.
The bipartisan ethics panel found that Schweikert violated 11 different rules and standards, which also included campaign finance violations, pressuring staff into working on his campaign and a “lack of candor and due diligence” throughout the investigation. . . .
Among the biggest findings from the Ethics panel is that Schweikert had paid over $270,000 to a firm whose sole employee is [Schweikert's former chief staffer] Schwab over seven years, violating the limit on outside income for senior congressional aides. Schwab left his congressional job in 2018 after seven years. That same year, the aide also repaid the campaign more than $50,000. . . .
The ethics penalty could be a major problem for Schweikert’s reelection, whose suburban Phoenix seat had already been eyed by Democrats going into November.
Donald Trump won the district by 10 points in 2016, but operatives in both parties concede he could be vulnerable due to his dismal fundraising and ethics woes. And House Democrats have fielded a well-funded challenger to take on Schweikert.
His most formidable Democratic opponent is Hiral Tipirneni, an emergency room physician who ran in a 2018 special election in a neighboring district.
She has to beat three other Democrats in the Aug. 4 primary, but Tipirneni has by far the most resources, with $1.6 million in the bank by the end of June. Schweikert had less than $240,000.
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Do you want people to exercise? If so, I suggest we don't adopt that as policy.nichomar said:
Maybe it should betlg86 said:
There's no requirement to wear a mask outside. If they were wearing a mask, questions would be asked as to why it isn't policy. Simple as that.nichomar said:
Still should be setting an example and has he told us how many the net increase in police numbers are since the recruitment drive?kle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!1 -
How is it an example when nobody needs to wear a mask outdoor and socially distancing anywhere in UKnichomar said:
Still should be setting an example and has he told us how many the net increase in police numbers are since the recruitment drive?kle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!1 -
Maybe it should betlg86 said:
There's no requirement to wear a mask outside. If they were wearing a mask, questions would be asked as to why it isn't policy. Simple as that.nichomar said:
Still should be setting an example and has he told us how many the net increase in police numbers are since the recruitment drive?kle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!0 -
Indeed. Look how long its taken Leeds United to get back into the Premier League.MaxPB said:
Indeed, and we've seen even big clubs like Liverpool can be brought to near relegation by owners who load up clubs with unsustainable debts. Newcastle would probably end up like Blackburn with that type of owner, double relegation.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed even with all the stick Ashley gets, he's not as I understood it loaded any debts onto the club. That's quite impressive compared to many owners.MaxPB said:
Yeah but what you don't want is for him to end up being Hicks and Gillet style chancers. For Liverpool that wasn't a complete disaster because they were always going to be bought before administration, for Newcastle it would be tough to find a buyer that would purchase pre-administration. Aiui, Liverpool were weeks away from the points deduction and it was only because the banks forced the sale of the club before that happened and permanently damaged the asset.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?
Even Man United had a few dodgy PIKs that the Glazers used and needed to float the company in Singapore to get rid of. Whatever anyone says about Ashley, he's never going to let Newcastle go bankrupt. This new buyer feels more like Hicks and Gillet than FSG or even the Glazers.0 -
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But it isn't.nichomar said:
Maybe it should betlg86 said:
There's no requirement to wear a mask outside. If they were wearing a mask, questions would be asked as to why it isn't policy. Simple as that.nichomar said:
Still should be setting an example and has he told us how many the net increase in police numbers are since the recruitment drive?kle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!0 -
Johnson isn’t exercising that should be an exclusion as long as not in crowded areastlg86 said:
Do you want people to exercise? If so, I suggest we don't adopt that as policy.nichomar said:
Maybe it should betlg86 said:
There's no requirement to wear a mask outside. If they were wearing a mask, questions would be asked as to why it isn't policy. Simple as that.nichomar said:
Still should be setting an example and has he told us how many the net increase in police numbers are since the recruitment drive?kle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!0 -
So it is a he should do it situation, not that it is a requirement in your eyes. I still don't therefore see the astonishment of him being out 'without a fucking mask!' as Scott stated, as though it is a must, or some crime.nichomar said:
No I’m not if he wore a mask at every opportunity It would help people to accept it as normalBig_G_NorthWales said:
You are just being sillyScott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!
Social distancing does not require a mask anywhere in the UK
We have to be fair to people, even Boris. If people think the policy is wrong and it should be masks everywhere, fine. But if that is not the policy screeching at him for not following a non-existent policy is just plain unreasonable. I think there are stronger angles to go after him today, given excess death info and so on (explanations aside, at the very least it requires a tougher explanation from the government than 'he wasn't following non-existent policy')0 -
Partially that is due to the fact that he doesn't own the ground. It has always been Council.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed even with all the stick Ashley gets, he's not as I understood it loaded any debts onto the club. That's quite impressive compared to many owners.MaxPB said:
Yeah but what you don't want is for him to end up being Hicks and Gillet style chancers. For Liverpool that wasn't a complete disaster because they were always going to be bought before administration, for Newcastle it would be tough to find a buyer that would purchase pre-administration. Aiui, Liverpool were weeks away from the points deduction and it was only because the banks forced the sale of the club before that happened and permanently damaged the asset.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?
Even Man United had a few dodgy PIKs that the Glazers used and needed to float the company in Singapore to get rid of. Whatever anyone says about Ashley, he's never going to let Newcastle go bankrupt. This new buyer feels more like Hicks and Gillet than FSG or even the Glazers.
And also cos he tries to turn a profit.
Which is why NUFC simultaneously punch above and below their weight.1 -
Totally all public figures should be out and about getting on with their duties while taking the maximum availablekle4 said:
Maybe that is so, it couldn't hurt too much, nevertheless the strength of the condemnation has to be proportionate and if he has not ignored what the actual rules are I find it hard to see how we can get too upset at that, certainly not to the level of exclamatory incredulity shown.nichomar said:
Still should be setting an examplekle4 said:
Outside and socially distanced?Scott_xP said:Parts of Yorkshire on lockdown again.
Where was BoZo today?
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1288858207184736258
Without a fucking mask!
If it is not even official advice to wear a mask in that situation then even if it would be useful for him to wear a mask even when not required, then how can we condemn him for not wearing one? It's not setting an example even since people aren't being told to wear on at such a time, so it might well confuse the message. It could confuse people as to what the law is.
That applies absolutely to Keir and others as well.
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Exactly, and Leeds are a club with a comparable history and fan base to Newcastle.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed. Look how long its taken Leeds United to get back into the Premier League.MaxPB said:
Indeed, and we've seen even big clubs like Liverpool can be brought to near relegation by owners who load up clubs with unsustainable debts. Newcastle would probably end up like Blackburn with that type of owner, double relegation.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed even with all the stick Ashley gets, he's not as I understood it loaded any debts onto the club. That's quite impressive compared to many owners.MaxPB said:
Yeah but what you don't want is for him to end up being Hicks and Gillet style chancers. For Liverpool that wasn't a complete disaster because they were always going to be bought before administration, for Newcastle it would be tough to find a buyer that would purchase pre-administration. Aiui, Liverpool were weeks away from the points deduction and it was only because the banks forced the sale of the club before that happened and permanently damaged the asset.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?
Even Man United had a few dodgy PIKs that the Glazers used and needed to float the company in Singapore to get rid of. Whatever anyone says about Ashley, he's never going to let Newcastle go bankrupt. This new buyer feels more like Hicks and Gillet than FSG or even the Glazers.
Ashley is the focal point of a lot of hate from Newcastle fans, but ultimately it's the players and managers who haven't delivered good football. Spurs have had an almost negative net transfer spend for the better part of a decade and a decade ago we were finishing in the rubbish mid table positions.0 -
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What is their weight, though? Is it above or below Everton, who have spent a fortune to get to 12th in the league.dixiedean said:
Partially that is due to the fact that he doesn't own the ground. It has always been Council.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed even with all the stick Ashley gets, he's not as I understood it loaded any debts onto the club. That's quite impressive compared to many owners.MaxPB said:
Yeah but what you don't want is for him to end up being Hicks and Gillet style chancers. For Liverpool that wasn't a complete disaster because they were always going to be bought before administration, for Newcastle it would be tough to find a buyer that would purchase pre-administration. Aiui, Liverpool were weeks away from the points deduction and it was only because the banks forced the sale of the club before that happened and permanently damaged the asset.Philip_Thompson said:
That is honestly the best possible scenario for Newcastle and I hope it goes through for them.TheScreamingEagles said:Newcastle United could still have new owners before the start of next season
Exclusive: American businessman Henry Mauriss believes he is in pole position to buy after a takeover by a Saudi-led consortium collapsed....
...Not much is known about the American, but Telegraph Sport has been assured by those close to the deal that he has a well financed and well planned project that includes the money to not only buy the club, but to also invest in it.
It is understood the loose business model will be based on the approach taken by FSF at Liverpool, with budgeted, gradual growth at the core of the mission statement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-could-still-have-new-owners-start-next-season/
Much better a reputable business like that than selling your soul to the Saudis or continuing with that swine Ashley.
Though I assume they mean FSG and not FSF?
Even Man United had a few dodgy PIKs that the Glazers used and needed to float the company in Singapore to get rid of. Whatever anyone says about Ashley, he's never going to let Newcastle go bankrupt. This new buyer feels more like Hicks and Gillet than FSG or even the Glazers.
And also cos he tries to turn a profit.
Which is why NUFC simultaneously punch above and below their weight.0 -
Do GPs really want their job to be reduced to a telephone service?geoffw said:
How on earth are low-tech patients - e.g. many elderly - who often have complex health needs going to do that?rottenborough said:Matt Hancock says all NHS patient consultations should be carried out by phone or video unless there is a clinical reason not to as he promises face-to-face appointments will still be available to people who want them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8575523/Matt-Hancock-guarantees-people-able-GP-face-face.html
WTF. How is this slipping through without uproar. GPs are going to miss a ton of ill health by going to phone/video only.
"Seven in ten [doctors] said telephone appointments increased their efficiency, rising to 76 per cent when asked about telephone triage."
I bet they did. Nothing like absence of patients to improve a GP's productivity! Hancock in thrall to Zoom is ripe for capture by the doctors' union.
I would hope not.0 -
It sure doesn't look it. But is Italy missing?Scott_xP said:
And well done, you've found a stronger attack line than that he is not doing something he doesn't have to.0
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