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Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

eek said:

WhisperingOracle said:

As a *first* point, though, whether or not BIden wins, despite his shortcomings, will make an enormous difference to the future health and well-being of American democracy.

Only if the size of Biden's win is large enough that Trump's attempts to cast doubt on the result fail.

It's possible that a close Biden win may actually make things worse than a clear cut Trump victory...

NO - realize many PBers would like to see US democracy collapse into a pile of ruble, but IF 2000 couldn't do it, 2020 won't either.

I suspect most already think US democracy has been more notable for its abscence over the years when you consider all the voter suppression and gerry mandering that goes on.

US vote suppression is a problem BUT is also WAY overblown, often for political reasons but mostly due to Democratic distrust following 2000. For example, turns out lot of "suppression" occurs in jurisdictions where voting is controlled by & large by Democrats.

As for gerrymandering, well, UK's version is more decorous, perhaps, but not non-political or non-partisan, not by a long shot.

Re: gerrymandering, note that WA State decades ago adopted a Redistrict Commission system, to take the process out of the direct control of the legislature and thus whomever controlled it.

Under WA state law, Redistricting Commission is created after every census, with one voting member from each legislative caucus (state house & senate Dems & Reps) with non-voting chair. Result is incumbent protection, with a handful of legislative & congressional districts contested, rest safe for one party or the other.

Of course over time demographic, economic, political, electoral trends will re-shape this status quo. BUT the redistricting process itself is still controlled - albeit indirectly - by the legislature, but by leader of both parties in (more or less) concert.

Don't just take my opinion for it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Wasn't planning to! But please note, have my own sources of info on this topic.

And the democracy index I linked is pretty widely respected and probably has a better oversight than a partisan shill.

How can you call out the uk when things like this happen

"The blend of federal agents -- drawn from the CBP, US Marshals Service, and ICE -- rolled onto the streets in unmarked vehicles. Out of these vehicles sprang agents dressed like soldiers, wearing no markings clearly identifying the officers or the agency they represented. Residents were taken off the street to unknown locations for questioning. They were later released and given no paperwork that informed them who had detained them or for what reason."

And your government tries to defend it in court. When it happens in places like China we denounce that sort of thing.

source of quote
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200724/14025644974/court-blocks-federal-officers-attacking-arresting-reporters-covering-protests-portland.shtml

May be a shill - or rather a hack - but yours truly shills/hacks for the DEMOCRATS. It ain't MY government, bub - it's Trumpsky's

Ah I see like under Obama who I was believe from your side of the fence who when taking office the USA was sitting at rank 20 of the world index of press freedom and during his tenure managed to help that slide to 41 by his actions against press freedoms....those democrats .

The world press index is compiled by Reporters without borders as no doubt you will want to cast aspersions on their credibility

Look at the specific points I made. Which are based on personal experience NOT surfing the web.

Your points were its happening under a Trump regime and gerrymandering and voter supression wasn't so bad.

My points were backed by research by international groups who collate data and summarise it into an indexed measure, internation groups with good reputations.

Your points are based on personal anecdote and come from a known partisan source.

You are almost as big a liar as Trumpsky. Certainly a truth twister.

Go soak yer fool head.

Aw diddums did I hit a nerve. I wasn't saying either side was worse than the other both democrats and republicans get up to the same thing and I fully expect the US to slide further down both indexes no matter who wins.

All electing Trump did was possibly accelerate the decline. My only interest in the us election is for betting possibilities and sadly as your electoral system grows ever more corrupt it means finding a reasonable bet becomes harder as you have to factor in the twists and turns of legal shenannigans

Pagan2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Pagan2 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

eek said:

WhisperingOracle said:

As a *first* point, though, whether or not BIden wins, despite his shortcomings, will make an enormous difference to the future health and well-being of American democracy.

Only if the size of Biden's win is large enough that Trump's attempts to cast doubt on the result fail.

It's possible that a close Biden win may actually make things worse than a clear cut Trump victory...

NO - realize many PBers would like to see US democracy collapse into a pile of ruble, but IF 2000 couldn't do it, 2020 won't either.

I suspect most already think US democracy has been more notable for its abscence over the years when you consider all the voter suppression and gerry mandering that goes on.

US vote suppression is a problem BUT is also WAY overblown, often for political reasons but mostly due to Democratic distrust following 2000. For example, turns out lot of "suppression" occurs in jurisdictions where voting is controlled by & large by Democrats.

As for gerrymandering, well, UK's version is more decorous, perhaps, but not non-political or non-partisan, not by a long shot.

Re: gerrymandering, note that WA State decades ago adopted a Redistrict Commission system, to take the process out of the direct control of the legislature and thus whomever controlled it.

Under WA state law, Redistricting Commission is created after every census, with one voting member from each legislative caucus (state house & senate Dems & Reps) with non-voting chair. Result is incumbent protection, with a handful of legislative & congressional districts contested, rest safe for one party or the other.

Of course over time demographic, economic, political, electoral trends will re-shape this status quo. BUT the redistricting process itself is still controlled - albeit indirectly - by the legislature, but by leader of both parties in (more or less) concert.

Don't just take my opinion for it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Wasn't planning to! But please note, have my own sources of info on this topic.

And the democracy index I linked is pretty widely respected and probably has a better oversight than a partisan shill.

How can you call out the uk when things like this happen

"The blend of federal agents -- drawn from the CBP, US Marshals Service, and ICE -- rolled onto the streets in unmarked vehicles. Out of these vehicles sprang agents dressed like soldiers, wearing no markings clearly identifying the officers or the agency they represented. Residents were taken off the street to unknown locations for questioning. They were later released and given no paperwork that informed them who had detained them or for what reason."

And your government tries to defend it in court. When it happens in places like China we denounce that sort of thing.

source of quote
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200724/14025644974/court-blocks-federal-officers-attacking-arresting-reporters-covering-protests-portland.shtml

May be a shill - or rather a hack - but yours truly shills/hacks for the DEMOCRATS. It ain't MY government, bub - it's Trumpsky's

Ah I see like under Obama who I was believe from your side of the fence who when taking office the USA was sitting at rank 20 of the world index of press freedom and during his tenure managed to help that slide to 41 by his actions against press freedoms....those democrats .

The world press index is compiled by Reporters without borders as no doubt you will want to cast aspersions on their credibility

Look at the specific points I made. Which are based on personal experience NOT surfing the web.

Your points were its happening under a Trump regime and gerrymandering and voter supression wasn't so bad.

My points were backed by research by international groups who collate data and summarise it into an indexed measure, internation groups with good reputations.

Your points are based on personal anecdote and come from a known partisan source.

You are almost as big a liar as Trumpsky. Certainly a truth twister.

Go soak yer fool head.

Aw diddums did I hit a nerve. I wasn't saying either side was worse than the other both democrats and republicans get up to the same thing and I fully expect the US to slide further down both indexes no matter who wins.

All electing Trump did was possibly accelerate the decline. My only interest in the us election is for betting possibilities and sadly as your electoral system grows ever more corrupt it means finding a reasonable bet becomes harder as you have to factor in the twists and turns of legal shenannigans

oh and as to liar....well anyone is free to go check up what I said as they are publiclly available. No one can check your anecdotes

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

RobD said:

stjohn said:

I’m probably being stupid but is today’s groundbreaking Stonehenge discovery based on analysis of a recently retrieved “60 year old” sample from the core of one of the Stonehenge stones? If so, why didn’t they just take a more recent sample and test it? Are the stones too precious to be sampled and analysed?

Why get a more recent one? The stones are thousands of years old, waiting 60 years isn't going to change much,

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

Nigelb said:

Whatever you think of Harris, this is a BS criticism.

https://twitter.com/schwartzbCNBC/status/1288561956350300166

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Lol.
Who gives a toss about 'genetically' apart from fruitcakes, loonies and the Royal Family?

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Lol.
Who gives a toss about 'genetically' apart from fruitcakes, loonies and the Royal Family?

Er, ooh, let me think. Ah yes. Scot Nats?

https://www.thenational.scot/news/17876067.ancient-scottish-kingdoms-still-genes-according-dna-analysis/

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Lol.
Who gives a toss about 'genetically' apart from fruitcakes, loonies and the Royal Family?

stjohn said:

RobD said:

stjohn said:

I’m probably being stupid but is today’s groundbreaking Stonehenge discovery based on analysis of a recently retrieved “60 year old” sample from the core of one of the Stonehenge stones? If so, why didn’t they just take a more recent sample and test it? Are the stones too precious to be sampled and analysed?

Why get a more recent one? The stones are thousands of years old, waiting 60 years isn't going to change much,

Yes, but did they know they were going to get the old sample to test? It doesn’t sound like they did. If not, why not just take a chip off the old block? Or the core of the old block?

LadyG said:

50,000 new cases in India

70,000 in Brazil, so far

Meanwhile:

2,000 in Spain

1,400 in France

800 in Germany

This fucker will not go away

LadyG said:

50,000 new cases in India

70,000 in Brazil, so far

Meanwhile:

2,000 in Spain

1,400 in France

800 in Germany

This fucker will not go away

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

50,000 new cases in India

70,000 in Brazil, so far

Meanwhile:

2,000 in Spain

1,400 in France

800 in Germany

This fucker will not go away

The death rate seems to be going down. Maybe the virus is becoming less dangerous over time.

Philip_Thompson said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

kle4 said:

Nigelb said:

Whatever you think of Harris, this is a BS criticism.

https://twitter.com/schwartzbCNBC/status/1288561956350300166

It's a bit sad that a lot of the time VPs seem to be regarded as useless once any electoral service is offered, or untrustworthy as they want the top gig, rather than a partnership, albeit not one of equals.

One of Biden's strengths is that it was NOT that way with him and Obama. And he certainly gives impression of wanting a similar deal with him and Ms X.

Nor to be fair was it that way with Cheney either.

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Beibheirli_C said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Well, Éamon de Valera was Irish enough for the Irish, so reckon tud is Scottish enough for the Scots.

Lord Haw Haw was born in the USA, raised in Ireland and English enough for the Germans....

That should set a benchmark for Cornish Scots, English Welshmen etc....

Would note in this context that Adolf Hitler's nephew, William Patrick Hitler, a British subject who served in US Navy during WWII & became US citizen.

Also such intereting "Brits" as Sir Carton de Wiart (born a Belgian) and HRH Prince Philip (born a Greek).

Philip_Thompson said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

50,000 new cases in India

70,000 in Brazil, so far

Meanwhile:

2,000 in Spain

1,400 in France

800 in Germany

This fucker will not go away

The death rate seems to be going down. Maybe the virus is becoming less dangerous over time.

Our medicine is probably getting better.

Beibheirli_C said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

50,000 new cases in India

70,000 in Brazil, so far

Meanwhile:

2,000 in Spain

1,400 in France

800 in Germany

This fucker will not go away

The death rate seems to be going down. Maybe the virus is becoming less dangerous over time.

Our medicine is probably getting better.

It is not unusual for viruses to get less virulent. Basically, a viral strain that does not kill its host gets to replicate better and spread further. The more virulent a virus is, the less likely it is to spread.

Evolution favours a less virulent strain and for a virus, a dozen generations can happen in a few days.

ExiledInScotland said:

kle4 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Beibheirli_C said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Well, Éamon de Valera was Irish enough for the Irish, so reckon tud is Scottish enough for the Scots.

Lord Haw Haw was born in the USA, raised in Ireland and English enough for the Germans....

That should set a benchmark for Cornish Scots, English Welshmen etc....

Would note in this context that Adolf Hitler's nephew, William Patrick Hitler, a British subject who served in US Navy during WWII & became US citizen.

Also such intereting "Brits" as Sir Carton de Wiart (born a Belgian) and HRH Prince Philip (born a Greek).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart

Sounds like a very interesting chap:

He served in the Boer War, First World War, and Second World War. He was shot in the face, head, stomach, ankle, leg, hip, and ear; was blinded in his left eye; survived two plane crashes; tunnelled out of a prisoner-of-war camp; and tore off his own fingers when a doctor refused to amputate them. Describing his experiences in the First World War, he wrote, "Frankly I had enjoyed the war.

Per Wiki: " In male company he was "a delightful character and must hold the world record for bad language." Marvellous.

Beibheirli_C said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

50,000 new cases in India

70,000 in Brazil, so far

Meanwhile:

2,000 in Spain

1,400 in France

800 in Germany

This fucker will not go away

The death rate seems to be going down. Maybe the virus is becoming less dangerous over time.

Our medicine is probably getting better.

It is not unusual for viruses to get less virulent. Basically, a viral strain that does not kill its host gets to replicate better and spread further. The more virulent a virus is, the less likely it is to spread.

Evolution favours a less virulent strain and for a virus, a dozen generations can happen in a few days.

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Charles said:

LadyG said:

Nigelb said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Lol.
Who gives a toss about 'genetically' apart from fruitcakes, loonies and the Royal Family?

‘English, genetically’ in a pretty weird idea even for those who might.

It's really not.

There are noticeable and measurable genetic differences between people who originate in the British Isles (let's call them "English") and people who originate in, say, France, Finland, Portugal or Bulgaria (or beyond, of course).

https://brilliantmaps.com/the-genetic-map-of-europe/

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/306-the-genetic-map-of-europe

Does this matter? Depends. But if you fiercely want to draw a border down the island of Britain between people who are genetically basically identical, a border based on some ancient royal insult dating back to 850AD or whenever, then yes I would say it is certainly AS relevant as anything else, given that we speak the same language, have the same governance, and so on.

Scot Nats are happy to use genetic differences, as a concept, when they favour the idea of separatism, and are eager to ignore the concept with they disfavour. But they should not get to pick and choose their science.

What jumped out at me was how few Aryans there are in Germany vs Poland. Is that because Aryans were concentrated in Prussia?

There is a (relatively) close linguistic link (apparently) between Sanskrit and Lithuanian, which has (IIRC) sparked some cultural interchange between Lithuania and India.

And there are dynastic, historic and (no doubt) genetic links between Lithuania and Poland.

Richard_Tyndall said:

Beibheirli_C said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

50,000 new cases in India

70,000 in Brazil, so far

Meanwhile:

2,000 in Spain

1,400 in France

800 in Germany

This fucker will not go away

The death rate seems to be going down. Maybe the virus is becoming less dangerous over time.

Our medicine is probably getting better.

It is not unusual for viruses to get less virulent. Basically, a viral strain that does not kill its host gets to replicate better and spread further. The more virulent a virus is, the less likely it is to spread.

Evolution favours a less virulent strain and for a virus, a dozen generations can happen in a few days.

I thought a few days ago they announced that the latest strain was more virulent but less deadly. Hence more cases but without a great increase in death rates.

HYUFD said:

Trump pushes low income housing from the suburbs back to the inner cities

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509568578777088?s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509572223651840?s=19

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

dixiedean said:

HYUFD said:

Trump pushes low income housing from the suburbs back to the inner cities

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509568578777088?s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509572223651840?s=19

Old man yells at cloud.

With respect to suburban voters, this is actually WAY smarter than 95% of what he's been doing the duration of his term.

However, like his initial tax cuts, will turn out to deliver less than it suggests, and virtually nothing by November 4.

Reckon this is being touted at insistence of congressional GOP, especially House members fighting for their political lives in suburban districts.

dixiedean said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

dixiedean said:

HYUFD said:

Trump pushes low income housing from the suburbs back to the inner cities

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509568578777088?s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509572223651840?s=19

Old man yells at cloud.

With respect to suburban voters, this is actually WAY smarter than 95% of what he's been doing the duration of his term.

However, like his initial tax cuts, will turn out to deliver less than it suggests, and virtually nothing by November 4.

Reckon this is being touted at insistence of congressional GOP, especially House members fighting for their political lives in suburban districts.

Indeed. Trying to run as an insurgent. Only works with a radical change at the top. C.f. Boris.

williamglenn said:

He’s performing his greatest hits.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1288620254130626561?s=21

Charles said:

LadyG said:

Nigelb said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Lol.
Who gives a toss about 'genetically' apart from fruitcakes, loonies and the Royal Family?

‘English, genetically’ in a pretty weird idea even for those who might.

It's really not.

There are noticeable and measurable genetic differences between people who originate in the British Isles (let's call them "English") and people who originate in, say, France, Finland, Portugal or Bulgaria (or beyond, of course).

https://brilliantmaps.com/the-genetic-map-of-europe/

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/306-the-genetic-map-of-europe

Does this matter? Depends. But if you fiercely want to draw a border down the island of Britain between people who are genetically basically identical, a border based on some ancient royal insult dating back to 850AD or whenever, then yes I would say it is certainly AS relevant as anything else, given that we speak the same language, have the same governance, and so on.

Scot Nats are happy to use genetic differences, as a concept, when they favour the idea of separatism, and are eager to ignore the concept with they disfavour. But they should not get to pick and choose their science.

What jumped out at me was how few Aryans there are in Germany vs Poland. Is that because Aryans were concentrated in Prussia?

Charles said:

LadyG said:

Nigelb said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

LadyG said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Andy_JS said:

LadyG said:

glw said:

Malmesbury said:

state_go_away said:

tlg86 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/29/exeter-chiefs-will-keep-name-logo-but-ditch-their-mascot-big-chief-rugby-union

The club’s board met on Wednesday afternoon following a petition from the fans’ pressure group Exeter Chiefs 4 Change which demanded an end to the club’s use of “harmful imagery and branding”, which included a Native American headdress, saying there was no place for it in a predominantly white British environment.

I don't really follow club rugby, but I'm adopting the Chiefs as my team.

When does the Haka get cancelled?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/jan/23/the-haka-isnt-yours-stop-performing-it

Are we now saying that we cannot mix cultures at all and we all have to have separate pristine cultures ? Sounds at best a rather miserable policy and at worse something the BNP /Islamic jihadis or Nazis would agree with.

I like the fact that, in that Guardian article, the journalist didn't ask an actual Maori about who should/shouldn't perform the Haka.

I've read about this before and as I recall the biggest beef Maori people* had was not that the Haka was done, it is part of New Zealand culture so it's not like the All Blacks are doing something alien, but that it used to be done so badly.

* Generally speaking, I'm sure there are some people who think that only Maori person should perform it.

Cultural appropriation, taken to its endpoint, is pretty much the end of sport (and much else, like cuisine, partying, etc). Enjoying and celebrating and incorporating other cultures is the one great undeniable benefit of multiculturalism. It is quintessentially jubiliant.

This is the opposite. It is a deadening puritanism. It sees sin everywhere.

It will not last, just as Puritanism did not last, but in the interim it can do terrible damage.

America is particularly prone to these mad fits of self-hating monasticism. See Prohibition.

According to the latest research Gospel music originated in the Scottish Hebrides so if cultural appropriation is not allowed African Americans should stop singing it.

It's a theory that's been around for a while.
I don't think Hebrideans are much bothered. I attended a concert, Psalm and Soul, in Glasgow a few years ago and saw a few of my dad's pals from Lewis and Harris there. Said hello at the interval after the Lewis Weefree choir had sang, then they buggered off before the US Gospel choir did their stuff.

Well that would depend on whether you are of Scots Lowland descent (ie basically English) or, much less likely, of Highland Gaelic descent (in which case you might be more covetous of your artistic lineage).

This is how this works.

These guys were Gaelic speakers born and bred in Lewis & Harris. They were mildly flattered that the connection had been made, but not much interested in the musical proof. Like many migrated Gaels they just wanted a little slice of home.

So I presume you are Scots Lowland, ie English, genetically. The narcissism of minor differences.

The Welsh and Cornish Nats are the same. Most of them are English.

Lol.
Who gives a toss about 'genetically' apart from fruitcakes, loonies and the Royal Family?

‘English, genetically’ in a pretty weird idea even for those who might.

It's really not.

There are noticeable and measurable genetic differences between people who originate in the British Isles (let's call them "English") and people who originate in, say, France, Finland, Portugal or Bulgaria (or beyond, of course).

https://brilliantmaps.com/the-genetic-map-of-europe/

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/306-the-genetic-map-of-europe

Does this matter? Depends. But if you fiercely want to draw a border down the island of Britain between people who are genetically basically identical, a border based on some ancient royal insult dating back to 850AD or whenever, then yes I would say it is certainly AS relevant as anything else, given that we speak the same language, have the same governance, and so on.

Scot Nats are happy to use genetic differences, as a concept, when they favour the idea of separatism, and are eager to ignore the concept with they disfavour. But they should not get to pick and choose their science.

What jumped out at me was how few Aryans there are in Germany vs Poland. Is that because Aryans were concentrated in Prussia?

williamglenn said:

He’s performing his greatest hits.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1288620254130626561?s=21

kamski said:

Foxy said:

williamglenn said:

He’s performing his greatest hits.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1288620254130626561?s=21

Trumps former Director of Communications:

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1288621863246147585?s=09

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1288674147703435264?s=09

I don't think moving US troops out of Germany is a big deal, it's been happening for many years. British troops in Germany (which numbered 25,000 as recently as the 90s), have been almost entirely removed.

I don't think many people believe that Germany currently needs protecting from Russia, or that US troops in Germany are doing that. And with Trump as president who knows which side they would fight on! (joke - or is it? - that's how far things have gone).

It would certainly make more sense to have them in the Baltic States, for example, if the idea is to restrain Russia.

Germany should certainly be aiming to stop buying fossil fuels from Russia (or elsewhere). Merkel's failure to decarbonise the economy is totally irresponsible.

alex_ said:

Question: if the “death rates” now had been like this at the start of the outbreak, would the country have taken the measures that it did? And if it does become apparent at some point that the virus has mutated to something more akin in “danger” to flu (or even something like Swine flu in 2010!) how would the Govt go about changing policy to reflect this?

kamski said:

Foxy said:

williamglenn said:

He’s performing his greatest hits.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1288620254130626561?s=21

Trumps former Director of Communications:

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1288621863246147585?s=09

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1288674147703435264?s=09

I don't think moving US troops out of Germany is a big deal, it's been happening for many years. British troops in Germany (which numbered 25,000 as recently as the 90s), have been almost entirely removed.

I don't think many people believe that Germany currently needs protecting from Russia, or that US troops in Germany are doing that. And with Trump as president who knows which side they would fight on! (joke - or is it? - that's how far things have gone).

It would certainly make more sense to have them in the Baltic States, for example, if the idea is to restrain Russia.

Germany should certainly be aiming to stop buying fossil fuels from Russia (or elsewhere). Merkel's failure to decarbonise the economy is totally irresponsible.

alex_ said:

THE increasingly independent Fox News...

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/portland-protests-dissent-freedom-andrew-napolitano

alex_ said:

alex_ said:

Question: if the “death rates” now had been like this at the start of the outbreak, would the country have taken the measures that it did? And if it does become apparent at some point that the virus has mutated to something more akin in “danger” to flu (or even something like Swine flu in 2010!) how would the Govt go about changing policy to reflect this?

Even worse, if the virus also mutates to become more virulent as well as much less harmful, will we find that Govts learn the wrong lesson and take it as evidence that “opening up” is the cause of rapid rises in case numbers, (thinking that death/serious illness will be a lagging indicator) and launch future crackdown, when actually it is nothing to worry about at all.

And are we looking forward to a future where “extreme lockdowns’ are the first response to emerging pandemics, at enormous economic cost. How would we have managed Swine flu today if we’d had the experience of COVID to guide us?