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There were some interesting posts on the overnight thread which perhaps should be given a wider audience. This from Cyclefree is one of the best and is on the impact of the the metres apart regime that all of us are having to handle.
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My Season Ticket will be renewed for the football as per usual, for example.
Then putting effort into testing and contact tracing so that we can stop isolated residual infections from spreadingand introducing quarantine for travellers from infected countries to reduce the risk of reintroducing the virus.
Doing a half-arsed job of suppressing the virus, and accepting the risk is what will keep people hiding away out of fear.
The sound of whinging would have drowned out the air raid sirens, and there would have been a substantial movement in favour of surrendering to the Nazis so that we could "get on with our lives".
It's stuffed with regular posters (many a bit aspergey) whose idea of fun is to log-on to an online blog day after day posting detailed analytical comments from behind a screen.
Given that many like that in 'real life' it's not surprising so many don't really mind the lockdown (disclaimer: I do).
"As throughout most of history, all of those things will be on offer. You simply live with the chance of becoming ill, and your life expectancy takes a bit of a knock. On average."
No matter what, we must retain our freedom as autonomous individuals in a liberal democracy.
Autonomous individuals: "the capacity to be one's own person, to live one's life according to reasons and motives that are taken as one's own and not the product of manipulative or distorting external forces".
Cheers to that.
That isn't practical of course for a whole host of reasons.
(*disclaimer: I don't know whether for a small minority it might linger where they neither fully recover nor die and the virus remains quasi-active or in hibernation in their system)
I certainly will if I don't like what the Government has to say on Thursday 7th May next week.
He met and married my grandmother during the war. On one day he and a friend cycled from Birmingham to Welshpool to meet Grandma and her friend (who were cycling from Snowdonia). In important social ways what we're being asked to do now is more difficult.
And when your income ceases?
Mr. Divvie, The Last Kingdom is probably the last non-news programme I watched on the BBC regularly. Naturally, they discarded it. Still good?
F1: they reckon the season will start in July, in Austria. I'll believe it when I see it.
As our resident correspondent from Japan has been at pains to point out repeatedly, it's not a binary choice between lockdown and nothing, but about working out what specific interventions will keep R below 1.
If we can sort out testing and contact tracing then South Korea is showing us what is possible.
In terms of the rest, I am rather enjoying being at home more in the garden, reading and sorting out the study etc. As an introvert, I find it easy. There is as much social contact as I need.
Fox Jr is eager to get back to acting though, and nightclubbing.
I posted a surefire way on how to do that (driving Rt to 0) but explained it wasn't practical.
This too will pass.
Meanwhile, accept the gift we have been given in this hiatus: time.
In modern life, all too rare are the opportunities to have a surplus of time. To read. To view. To renew acquaintances. To stop. To think, to ponder, to consider: what do I value from my life? What is important to me?
These are questions we rarely consider as we blunder along, just getting things done on a list that never shortens, putting things to one side, to be tackled "one day". Well, we have fewer days than we think. Perhaps, many fewer. So spend some time today, ordering your thoughts.
Because tonight, we will all be "one day closer to death". One day less to read those books we have lovingly stored. To view that film, that play, that ballet, that opera, that boxed set you've been meaning get round to. To find that Christmas card, that scrap of paper of that person otherwise falling out of your life.
Use this time. It's the only blessing to come out of this wretched virus.
I am an optomist by nature though, and in another year this will be history.
This does depend on someone being willing to look after my agent of chaos (toddler) though.
As I posted on the previous thread, humans are a social species and the young need to leave their parents.
I know grandson 2, 17 today, wants to be out and about.
A magic spell would be another surefire solution.
https://twitter.com/KateDahls/status/1255594504247271425?s=09
Liberalism needs to re-assert itself - and fast. (Politically, there is an opportunity here. Davey and Moran etc are not grasping it. Not even slightly.)
My dad spent his retirement building a giant 8x3m layout which we now don't to what to do with. One the hand somebody would enjoy the rolling stock but my dad put thousands of hours into it so it doesn't feel right to dismantle it. I reckon I put over 500 hours into the electronics I did on it for him.
Like those who don't ever upgrade their browser from Windows explorer.
I'm not sure how much more I can take.
Sounds like fun.
"Remember that feeling you had as a child? When you woke in the night and saw a dark shadow in the bedroom? Bring it back to life with a plague-doctor bird mask. Dispel the miasma. Only (insert excessive sum) pounds."
What an epitaph for mankind....
UK GDP fell over 20% from 1920 to 1921 and didn't recover back to where it was until WWII.
Coronavirus isn't polonium resulting in guaranteed death and nor is it 100% instantly contagious.
For a transient isolated warping of the rules in one location there will be precious little difference to anything. Unless someone sneezed or coughed (who was infected) or touched someone uninfected directly during that breakdown then nothing probably happened. 30-50cm as opposed to 2m+ for a couple of minutes isn't a huge extra risk if it's not coincident with a transmission event.
Just shows you people only understand risks in absolutes.
It makes sense to lock down to keep a peak below NHS capacity but it can't be permanent. The priority has to be using this limited window to contain the virus, raise NHS capacity, raise testing and tracking/tracing capacity and raise PPE stocks.
CaptainColonel Tom best wishes for his birthday on breakfast TV.My eldest granddaughter reaches that milestone in a couple of weeks
Like having a chronic disease, it's not something anyone wants, but once you adjust you can in fact live with it.
I felt a bit sorry for myself when I thought of the productions I had booked for and had been looking forward to seeing. Then I remembered how back in January (which seems another lifetime ago) a friend told me how her nephew had just got a key role in a production in Chichester Festival Theatre's summer season and he was excited about getting his big break in the theatre. That production has now been dropped from the schedule.
That's when I feel like crying; when I think of the young people who have had their dreams dashed.
I suspect that he will tire of it soon. He is quite a sociable fellow.
https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/1255744205844029440?s=21
He and they are an utter inspiration
And on the “aspergey” front - my son is autistic. I’m probably on the spectrum myself. I am, understandably, in frequent contact with other families with ASD children and adults.
And I can tell you that being on the spectrum does not make this better. ASD individuals almost universally hate disruption to their routine. And not in the sense “Oh, I’d prefer it if this didn’t happen” but in the sense of continual and high level distress.
I know you didn’t mean it as dismissively as it came across, but I’m sure you’ll understand why it could raise the hackles of those on the ASD spectrum and their loved ones who are watching them melt down.
(err... I think)
That said, if it's the right thing to do then it should be done.
Unless you want them to go out of business.
Also, that whether or not a vaccine is invented or produced here, it should not be prioritised for our own use first but to treat the most pressing points in the *global* pandemic.
https://twitter.com/uniofoxford/status/1255745124023316481?s=21
If a certain percentage of the theatre's clientelle won't return even with looser social distancing and better hygiene then knowing that could be useful for them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52472132
Oh, and add in fattys and those with co-morbidity.
Be mindful. Live in the moment. That's all there is.
And if speaking loudly increases saliva spray, then pb's teachers can be required to wear masks at all times, and equipped with microphones and speakers.
Question is, do we know enough yet? Perhaps this -- commissioning research to fill in the gaps -- might usefully occupy Dominic Cummings.
This happened a few times in the 17th century and actually raised substantial sums of money.
Inaccurate answers would result in a potential over ambitious reopening and more chances of going out of business
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/04/28/world/europe/28reuters-health-coronavirus-india-vaccine.html
Nice to know someone has confidence in the UK and its institutions.
Pensioners currently living mortgage free?
Families with salaries over 80k?
People with more than one property?
All of the above?
Tax salaries and the mobile will leave. Tax assets and you get money one-off whilst potentially pushing tens of thousands of pensioners out of their homes (plus discouraging saving isn't great given our very poor rate of it).
I think second properties are the least difficult of those categories you mention, but the focus should be on revenue-raising not hitting people with tax bills.