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  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,378
    Today's journalist's jamboree, the so-called press conference, was embarrassing.

    Is Boris bonkers? and when we will we be set free from lockdown?

    They knew the experts would tell them neither but they kept on asking the same questions anyway in case they extracted a word or two which could be twisted into a headline which has already been printed.

    A complete shambles. Even Laura K ventured into the Westminster title-tattle.

    I was impressed by the two experts' equanimity. Mr Peston, please remember the old adage … say nothing and let people think you're an idiot ...
  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556

    Aww, is one a little piqued because one's heart throb is a lardy shortarse?
    I'm afraid you're not my heart-throb :p
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,076
    ukpaul said:

    For the last couple of weeks numbers have shot up on Tuesday after being steady or declining the days before that (54 to 87 & 180 to 381), if we can see an improvement on that tomorrow then that's something to be positive about.
    Thank you, I was just about to post the same thing. It is not just in the UK, many countries report lower numbers on Sunday and or Monday. There seems to be a clear weekend effect, which I am assuming is an administrative rather than medical issue.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,567

    Hodges can speak for himself. I definitely plan to panic if Raab is fully in charge.
    Yes, indeed.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,609

    The public is entitled to understand how it is being governed. The government is doing an atrocious job of explaining. Speculation will run riot if more clarity is not provided.

    This was obvious last night, still more obvious by lunchtime today and blisteringly clear now.
    The obvious answer is that s normal person with a fever and a serious illness would take sick leave. You really shouldn't be trying to do any sort of high powered job, let alone run the country. Boris looked seriously rough when pictured on Thursday clapping NHS staff. What we need to understand is why this hasn't happened. Raab should have been formally in charge since the Friday Boris took ill.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    A rare occasion when I agree with Isabel Oakeshott:

    https://twitter.com/isabeloakeshott/status/1247205962592763906?s=21
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,567

    David Cameron took paternity leave.
    And so did Tony Blair, of course, but that’s not quite what I meant. Paternity leave you can just call them back from.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,867
    IanB2 said:

    So Boris is in St Thomas’s

    Yes and apparently the media are camped outside in the expectation that Boris might open the window and blow them a kiss... ;)
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,823
    Has anyone told Labour voters that the stand in is Dominic Raab?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,235
    Johnson doesn't need to resign even if he is very sick. Raab can direct things for now without officially being PM
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,609

    Has he really never encountered the phenomenon of people in hospital doing things - not just staring at the ceiling?
    As the symptoms have continued so long, is it possible he has a secondary infection? In which case they might want him on intravenous antibiotics. Or at least to closely monitor progress.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,839
    If broadly speaking we are seeing the outworkings of actions from two weeks ago, then today's relatively positive numbers are surely the first signs of lockdown, and they will continue to improve as days go by.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Pulpstar said:

    Johnson doesn't need to resign even if he is very sick. Raab can direct things for now without officially being PM

    "I have asked Dominic to deputise in my absence, as I focus on recovery" would have been fine.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,739
    New thread - second place is currently available.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,739

    If broadly speaking we are seeing the outworkings of actions from two weeks ago, then today's relatively positive numbers are surely the first signs of lockdown, and they will continue to improve as days go by.

    Today's numbers come from a Sunday, I know no-one has a clue what day it is but numbers will always be lower over a weekend.
  • NEW THREAD

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359

    The public is entitled to understand how it is being governed. The government is doing an atrocious job of explaining. Speculation will run riot if more clarity is not provided.

    This was obvious last night, still more obvious by lunchtime today and blisteringly clear now.
    Is it, or is it the media speculation? He might just be in for observation, exactly what they have said.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    edited April 2020
    Chris said:

    No - you prat - I'm pointing out that you were implying Sweden supported the crazy herd immunity policy, when they did no such thing.

    Are you brain-dead?
    I’m obviously missing something here. The conventional wisdom (albeit challenged by some) is that the U.K. were following a herd immunity strategy aimed at maximising infection over the next few months to avoid a second wave peak in the autumn winter. Believing it could be managed within existing NHS capacity. This changed when the IC study came out dramatically increasing the number of serious cases this would cause that would overwhelm the NHS and result in 250k plus deaths, and many of the mitigation measures that were planned were rapidly ramped up or accelerated.

    Since then all European countries have been following broadly the same strategy with slightly different interpretations of “lockdown” (U.K. looser than most) with the exception of Sweden which has been carrying on as before.

    The scientists leading the Swedish strategy have publicly questioned the U.K. change of approach, saying specifically that they disagree with the conclusions of the IC study.

    Now whether or not to characterise the U.K. strategy before as “herd immunity” or the Swedish strategy now likewise, it is clear that Sweden are broadly following the path the the U.K. switched from.

    So I don’t follow how you can characterise the U.K. original strategy as “monumentally stupid” but fail to do the same with Sweden. With bells on. Or you are mischaracterising either the initial U.K. approach or the current Swedish one. What am I missing?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,344

    I'm afraid you're not my heart-throb :p
    Since I'm quite a bit taller and lighter than BJ Chubby, obviously not your type.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,188
    Much better numbers for the UK again today. Maybe yesterday was a blip and we really have peaked.

    As for Boris he needs a consultant that tells him to cut this running the country crap out, to rest as much as he possibly can and to concentrate on getting well. He does not want an unborn child to lose its father before it is even born.
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