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Milner, those pencils - 2B or not 2B?FrancisUrquhart said:
Couldn't be James Milner, he is too busy organizing his tea bags and sharpening pencils,Andrew said:
I was vacillating between James Milner and Jamie Murray.Benpointer said:I missed it too - what is it?
https://twitter.com/JamesMilner/status/1239283281297903616?s=20
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Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
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I'd still say with things as they are, stay employed until its over.....Charles said:
Wow. Good luck. My sister is an employment lawyer so am sure we can get you some recommendations if you need.TrèsDifficile said:Thanks for the supportive messages about my situation a couple of threads back. Although I disagree with at least half of the people here at least half of the time, it's still the best place to come on the internet. I've learnt so much here from the collective wisdom and I feel a real affinity with all who post here, even if am a minor player in that respect. I hope that I'll be able to continue to enjoy PB as a sane refuge over what are bound to be a few crazy months coming up. Thank you all.
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I think of the bravery of the man, who could be so selfless at the moment of his deathBenpointer said:
I can never think of that quote from Latimer without feeling sick to the core, I'm afraid. I don't find it uplifting, I just think of the inhumanity of the circumstances. Sorry.Charles said:
Grey's remark was a play on the much more positive comment by Latimer: "We shall this day light such a candle in England, as I hope, by God's grace, shall never be put out"Mysticrose said:It's pretty grim right now isn't it? That phrase from Lord Grey that Eadric posted a fortnight ago has been haunting me:
"The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time"
I don't think it's that extreme, but it's a sobering thought that not all of us may make it through this. And we may know people who don't.
In the meantime we are entering collective purdah and that, in itself, is a heavy pall over our mood.
We need some humour.
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thank youMortimer said:
Just caught up on your difficulties. Sounds like you acted wonderfully and the boss awfully. Well done you.TrèsDifficile said:Thanks for the supportive messages about my situation a couple of threads back. Although I disagree with at least half of the people here at least half of the time, it's still the best place to come on the internet. I've learnt so much here from the collective wisdom and I feel a real affinity with all who post here, even if am a minor player in that respect. I hope that I'll be able to continue to enjoy PB as a sane refuge over what are bound to be a few crazy months coming up. Thank you all.
Also, missed it but wishing the best to @Charles and his Father.0 -
Foxy said:JM1 said:
Absolutely. And hopefully the new machines being put together can really achieve this - if they are available within the next week (and at scale) it would make a massive difference by the sound of it. Did your source give an ETA or is it still too early to say?Foxy said:
That is the reason ventilator capacity is needed.Casino_Royale said:
It seems younger people aren't much less likely to end up in intensive care (for those that have a bad reaction) but they are much less likely to die of it.Richard_Nabavi said:Grim figures from France:
Head of the French health authority Jérôme Salomon in his daily update said the situation was worsening rapidly in France. Urged people to follow strictly the advice keep 1m distance and wash hands.
It is “urgent” to do this, he said. There are now 12,612 confirmed cases in France, and 450 deaths. Of the deaths, 87% were aged over 70 years old. There are 5,226 people in hospital, 35% of them over 65 years old: 1,297 of these are in intensive care, 50% under 60 years old. 1,587 have been released from hospital.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-live-updates-outbreak-deaths-italy-uk-us-australia-europe-vaccine-china-global-economy-toll-latest-update-news
Time is certainly of the essence, but the team are fully aware of this.JM1 said:
Absolutely. And hopefully the new machines being put together can really achieve this - if they are available within the next week (and at scale) it would make a massive difference by the sound of it. Did your source give an ETA or is it still too early to say?Foxy said:
That is the reason ventilator capacity is needed.Casino_Royale said:
It seems younger people aren't much less likely to end up in intensive care (for those that have a bad reaction) but they are much less likely to die of it.Richard_Nabavi said:Grim figures from France:
Head of the French health authority Jérôme Salomon in his daily update said the situation was worsening rapidly in France. Urged people to follow strictly the advice keep 1m distance and wash hands.
It is “urgent” to do this, he said. There are now 12,612 confirmed cases in France, and 450 deaths. Of the deaths, 87% were aged over 70 years old. There are 5,226 people in hospital, 35% of them over 65 years old: 1,297 of these are in intensive care, 50% under 60 years old. 1,587 have been released from hospital.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-live-updates-outbreak-deaths-italy-uk-us-australia-europe-vaccine-china-global-economy-toll-latest-update-news
They do need to what it says on the tin. I have full and entire faith in the design team.
There seems to be an effect that young people spend longer in intensive care than older people (because older people die), so 50% of people in intensive care under 60 does not mean that 50% of people going into intensive care are under 600 -
There'll be bluebirds over ...
Dame Vera Lynn is 103 today. Duracell bunny eat your heart out.1 -
Zoom worked fine, easy to download and operate. Free version times out within the hour, so you all have to log back in occasionally, or you can pay about £12 a month for the whistles and bells version.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
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I think that I prefer this sort of chart to be plotting something like the RRR in an ODI to be honestTheScreamingEagles said:3 -
Zoom.us, it's great. We're doing a zoom party tomorrow, I'll host it as I've got a pro account from work and it won't time out after 40 mins.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
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hooking up via the internet... at your age!MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...0 -
There is a killer virus sweeping the world, 1000s of people dying, the government have just announced the biggest load of helicopter money in 50+ years and closed all the pubs and clubs.
UK twitter trending....cancel the labour leadership election (and keep Jezza).0 -
If there is, their agent is currently getting a bollocking, darling......FrancisUrquhart said:Is there a celeb who doesn't have coronavirus?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8136531/Fiona-Phillips-confirms-coronavirus-struck-sore-throat-dry-cough.html0 -
French police taking their usual approach of gentle persuasion to deal with people ignoring the lockdown....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8130457/France-extend-coronavirus-lockdown-face-mask-shortage-bites.html0 -
A friend with swab proven COVID19 zoomed into her pilates class...MaxPB said:
Zoom.us, it's great. We're doing a zoom party tomorrow, I'll host it as I've got a pro account from work and it won't time out after 40 mins.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
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Please lol no, my Khan winnings aren't going to arrive for another year. Labour really needs Starmer in charge anyway.FrancisUrquhart said:There is a killer virus sweeping the world, 1000s of people dying, the government have just announced the biggest load of helicopter money in 50+ years and closed all the pubs and clubs.
UK twitter trending....cancel the labour leadership election (and keep Jezza).0 -
*Pedant hat ON*Mysticrose said:It's pretty grim right now isn't it? That phrase from Lord Grey that Eadric posted a fortnight ago has been haunting me:
"The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time"
I don't think it's that extreme, but it's a sobering thought that not all of us may make it through this. And we may know people who don't.
In the meantime we are entering collective purdah and that, in itself, is a heavy pall over our mood.
We need some humour.
At the time he allegedly made that remark, he was Sir Edward Grey. He was not elevated to the peerage until 1916.
*Pedant hat OFF*0 -
What was that about needing humour?FrancisUrquhart said:There is a killer virus sweeping the world, 1000s of people dying, the government have just announced the biggest load of helicopter money in 50+ years and closed all the pubs and clubs.
UK twitter trending....cancel the labour leadership election (and keep Jezza).0 -
Spain has set a challenging target but provided we keep enough social activities in hand, we should chase it down.DavidL said:
I think that I prefer this sort of chart to be plotting something like the RRR in an ODI to be honestTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Reshoot with some sheep worrying scenes.Benpointer said:Big_G_NorthWales said:After Emmerdale tonight they referred to HMG advice re pubs and safe spacing and urged everyone to follow the advice, but went on to say their episodes are filmed six weeks in advance so they will continue to show pub scenes and close contact, (or words to that effect)
I think they should can those episodes. Too many people struggle to separate soaps from real life.
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You can take yours off?ydoethur said:
*Pedant hat ON*Mysticrose said:It's pretty grim right now isn't it? That phrase from Lord Grey that Eadric posted a fortnight ago has been haunting me:
"The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time"
I don't think it's that extreme, but it's a sobering thought that not all of us may make it through this. And we may know people who don't.
In the meantime we are entering collective purdah and that, in itself, is a heavy pall over our mood.
We need some humour.
At the time he allegedly made that remark, he was Sir Edward Grey. He was not elevated to the peerage until 1916.
*Pedant hat OFF*6 -
Jacob Marley.Andrew said:
I was vacillating between James Milner and Jamie Murray.Benpointer said:I missed it too - what is it?
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For work meetings we have started using Microsoft Teams which is a million times easier to use than Skype for Business. Extremely good platform which is not falling over as yet in spite of taking a real hammering.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
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He'll be in lockdown from Monday.FrancisUrquhart said:There is a killer virus sweeping the world, 1000s of people dying, the government have just announced the biggest load of helicopter money in 50+ years and closed all the pubs and clubs.
UK twitter trending....cancel the labour leadership election (and keep Jezza).
Add your own punchline...0 -
They do - it’s called Pobl y Cwm ( joke, joke, JOKE!!)egg said:
Reshoot with some sheep worrying scenes.Benpointer said:Big_G_NorthWales said:After Emmerdale tonight they referred to HMG advice re pubs and safe spacing and urged everyone to follow the advice, but went on to say their episodes are filmed six weeks in advance so they will continue to show pub scenes and close contact, (or words to that effect)
I think they should can those episodes. Too many people struggle to separate soaps from real life.0 -
Ah, the old Twitter bubble.FrancisUrquhart said:There is a killer virus sweeping the world, 1000s of people dying, the government have just announced the biggest load of helicopter money in 50+ years and closed all the pubs and clubs.
UK twitter trending....cancel the labour leadership election (and keep Jezza).
My floating voter mother rang me to specifically say how wonderful she thought Rishi Sunak was, and that 'John McDonald' was useless and tone deaf. And she misses Charlie Kennedy.0 -
Sir Edward Grey in August 1914.Mysticrose said:It's pretty grim right now isn't it? That phrase from Lord Grey that Eadric posted a fortnight ago has been haunting me:
"The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time"
I don't think it's that extreme, but it's a sobering thought that not all of us may make it through this. And we may know people who don't.
In the meantime we are entering collective purdah and that, in itself, is a heavy pall over our mood.
We need some humour.0 -
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Well, yes. How else do you suppose I can pass it to you?RobD said:
You can take yours off?ydoethur said:
*Pedant hat ON*Mysticrose said:It's pretty grim right now isn't it? That phrase from Lord Grey that Eadric posted a fortnight ago has been haunting me:
"The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time"
I don't think it's that extreme, but it's a sobering thought that not all of us may make it through this. And we may know people who don't.
In the meantime we are entering collective purdah and that, in itself, is a heavy pall over our mood.
We need some humour.
At the time he allegedly made that remark, he was Sir Edward Grey. He was not elevated to the peerage until 1916.
*Pedant hat OFF*0 -
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
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That's more like it.FrancisUrquhart said:French police taking their usual approach of gentle persuasion to deal with people ignoring the lockdown....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8130457/France-extend-coronavirus-lockdown-face-mask-shortage-bites.html
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We use both. I'm more used to Skype for Business, which is what we use instead of phone calls these days.Richard_Tyndall said:
For work meetings we have started using Microsoft Teams which is a million times easier to use than Skype for Business. Extremely good platform which is not falling over as yet in spite of taking a real hammering.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
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Johnny Marr?Nigelb said:
Jacob Marley.Andrew said:
I was vacillating between James Milner and Jamie Murray.Benpointer said:I missed it too - what is it?
Jenni Murray?
The ghost of Jessica Mitford?0 -
Apparently the supermarkets are trying to hire 50,000 new employees over the next few weeks. Given that the chancellor has just announced the massive helicopter money and that people will get 80% of their salary, I wonder where they are going to get these people? Students? People who work Uber?0
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Had a quick look - can't even find the ghosts - given up now.Charles said:
If you back at the previous thread he no longer exists.RobD said:
We're not supposed to talk about it anymore.Benpointer said:
I missed it too - what is it?SandyRentool said:I don't know. Spend a bit of time sorting out the online grocery shopping and I miss #JM1gate
Just some ghosts in other people's comments
But him... pooof! gone!0 -
If a police officer was caught doing that here (if we need a lockdown), it would be a national scandal for weeks.glw said:
That's more like it.FrancisUrquhart said:French police taking their usual approach of gentle persuasion to deal with people ignoring the lockdown....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8130457/France-extend-coronavirus-lockdown-face-mask-shortage-bites.html0 -
We are next if we don't shut up.Charles said:
If you back at the previous thread he no longer exists.RobD said:
We're not supposed to talk about it anymore.Benpointer said:
I missed it too - what is it?SandyRentool said:I don't know. Spend a bit of time sorting out the online grocery shopping and I miss #JM1gate
Just some ghosts in other people's comments
But him... pooof! gone! 0 -
Yes, I wasn’t meaning to be provocative - quite the opposite in fact. I simply mean socialism in the economic sense of the term, socialised risk for our fellow human. Not a dig at our Tory friends at all. Hope everyone is keeping safe and well.kicorse said:
Some versions do, some don't. The problem with the word "socialism" is that it covers such a broad range of ideas that one person (e.g. me) can treat it as obvious basic human decency, and another person with the same values can regard it as a threat to civilised society.Charles said:
I disagree.Anabobazina said:
We are all socialists in a crisis.Alistair said:Socialism is good actually says the chancellor
In fairness, conservativism has provision for that - Tories say they are pragmatic, altering their policies to the circumstances.
We are all communitarians.
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I think next time no chances will be taken.Jonathan said:
Pretty much. Before the outbreak we were warned. When it spread in China. When it spread in Italy. All took a conservative approach. Sadly no safety in numbers.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So every government worldwide were warned of this pandemic and did nothingJonathan said:
This was foreseen, we were warned, we did nothing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Utter nonsenseJonathan said:
Arguably conservatism helped get us into this mess.Anabobazina said:
We are all socialists in a crisis.Alistair said:Socialism is good actually says the chancellor
In fairness, conservativism has provision for that - Tories say they are pragmatic, altering their policies to the circumstances.
Flights will be suspended immediately.
It's crazy that didn't happen this time.2 -
How many zero hours employees will be getting exactly that, zero hours? They are not helped by the chancellor's welcome intervention today unless I have misunderstood.FrancisUrquhart said:Apparently the supermarkets are trying to hire 50,000 new employees over the next few weeks. Given that the chancellor has just announced the massive helicopter money and that people will get 80% of their salary, I wonder where they are going to get these people? Students? People who work Uber?
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I saw an interesting model of disease spread such as this. The problem is unless you are going to stop all flights and I mean all flights (no rescuing nationals), even allowing a very small number of flights soon results in little difference to if you had just allowed all flights.Casino_Royale said:
I think next time no chances will be taken.Jonathan said:
Pretty much. Before the outbreak we were warned. When it spread in China. When it spread in Italy. All took a conservative approach. Sadly no safety in numbers.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So every government worldwide were warned of this pandemic and did nothingJonathan said:
This was foreseen, we were warned, we did nothing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Utter nonsenseJonathan said:
Arguably conservatism helped get us into this mess.Anabobazina said:
We are all socialists in a crisis.Alistair said:Socialism is good actually says the chancellor
In fairness, conservativism has provision for that - Tories say they are pragmatic, altering their policies to the circumstances.
Flights will be suspended immediately.
It's crazy that didn't happen this time.1 -
Zoom is the best I’ve tried (and I’ve tried lots). Think it will become the standard after this global stress test!MarqueeMark said:
Zoom worked fine, easy to download and operate. Free version times out within the hour, so you all have to log back in occasionally, or you can pay about £12 a month for the whistles and bells version.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
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Yes you misunderstood. He said ZHC were covered, and although he didn't go into details, my guess would be like holiday pay, it will be based on an average of the past x months of earnings.Benpointer said:
How many zero hours employees will be getting exactly that, zero hours? They are not helped by the chancellor's welcome intervention today unless I have misunderstood.FrancisUrquhart said:Apparently the supermarkets are trying to hire 50,000 new employees over the next few weeks. Given that the chancellor has just announced the massive helicopter money and that people will get 80% of their salary, I wonder where they are going to get these people? Students? People who work Uber?
Now, I don't know about Uber drivers, because you are technically self-employed.0 -
He was just a figment of our imaginations...Benpointer said:
Had a quick look - can't even find the ghosts - given up now.Charles said:
If you back at the previous thread he no longer exists.RobD said:
We're not supposed to talk about it anymore.Benpointer said:
I missed it too - what is it?SandyRentool said:I don't know. Spend a bit of time sorting out the online grocery shopping and I miss #JM1gate
Just some ghosts in other people's comments
But him... pooof! gone!0 -
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
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His victory "matures" in barely two weeks, and almost all the votes are postal.Pulpstar said:
Please lol no, my Khan winnings aren't going to arrive for another year. Labour really needs Starmer in charge anyway.FrancisUrquhart said:There is a killer virus sweeping the world, 1000s of people dying, the government have just announced the biggest load of helicopter money in 50+ years and closed all the pubs and clubs.
UK twitter trending....cancel the labour leadership election (and keep Jezza).
So I don't think that will be postponed.0 -
There was a paper that came out at the end of January, from UK authors, which said that the Chinese quarantine would have to be 99.9% effective IIRC. I'm pretty sure it was 99.9% or 99%. Anyway the point they were making was that it was vanishingly improbable that the disease would be contained in China.FrancisUrquhart said:I saw an interesting model of disease spread such as this. The problem is unless you are going to stop all flights and I mean all flights (no rescuing nationals), even allowing a very small number of flights soon results in little difference to if you had just allowed all flights.
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A banning offence??Charles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
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Skype is absolute shite.SandyRentool said:
We use both. I'm more used to Skype for Business, which is what we use instead of phone calls these days.Richard_Tyndall said:
For work meetings we have started using Microsoft Teams which is a million times easier to use than Skype for Business. Extremely good platform which is not falling over as yet in spite of taking a real hammering.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
Mods? Spam porno post.rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
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Though isn't everyone "working from home" in their underpants?Charles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
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Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
The problem is with a disease where many people suffer no symptoms and no real time test, it doesn't take many infected people to be transported for it to be not much different in the long run as if you had just allowed all flights.glw said:
There was a paper that came out at the end of January, from UK authors, which said that the Chinese quarantine would have to be 99.9% effective IIRC. I'm pretty sure it was 99.9% or 99%. Anyway the point they were making was that it was vanishingly improbable that the disease would be contained in China.FrancisUrquhart said:I saw an interesting model of disease spread such as this. The problem is unless you are going to stop all flights and I mean all flights (no rescuing nationals), even allowing a very small number of flights soon results in little difference to if you had just allowed all flights.
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Yes, by far the worst of the big name platforms. Garbage.Casino_Royale said:
Skype is absolute shite.SandyRentool said:
We use both. I'm more used to Skype for Business, which is what we use instead of phone calls these days.Richard_Tyndall said:
For work meetings we have started using Microsoft Teams which is a million times easier to use than Skype for Business. Extremely good platform which is not falling over as yet in spite of taking a real hammering.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
Quick, did anyone write down the list of commandments posted a few days ago?Anabobazina said:
A banning offence??Charles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
Thanks for the warning - I'm gonna have to scrub my browsing history again now before Mrs P. does her weekly check!rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks1 -
This was posted here earlier, and I make no apologies for reposting as the most critical news of the day:
https://www.hsj.co.uk/news/hospitals-critical-care-unit-overwhelmed-by-coronavirus-patients/7027189.article0 -
So borrowing?RobD said:
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
She might be glad you are viewing more websites than just PB.Benpointer said:
Thanks for the warning - I'm gonna have to scrub my browsing history again now before Mrs P. does her weekly check!rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks
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Depends on your work, surelyCharles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
Sorry @Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale said:
Mods? Spam porno post.rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks
I couldn't resist1 -
Realise that’s in jest, but raises a serious question about how office-based PBers are finding the WFH thing. I WFH 3-4 days a week normally and have a home office so not massively different (although I miss my days in town with actual people).Foxy said:
Though isn't everyone "working from home" in their underpants?Charles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks
Are people getting used to it? (Top tip: get showered and dressed in the morning)0 -
Yeah, bog standard borrowing.Benpointer said:
So borrowing?RobD said:
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
I bet these "specialist" websites are doing a roaring trade at the moment.0
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Dow's not going to stop until it's sub 15,000 now is it?0
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I guess that's why we are moving to Teams.Anabobazina said:
Yes, by far the worst of the big name platforms. Garbage.Casino_Royale said:
Skype is absolute shite.SandyRentool said:
We use both. I'm more used to Skype for Business, which is what we use instead of phone calls these days.Richard_Tyndall said:
For work meetings we have started using Microsoft Teams which is a million times easier to use than Skype for Business. Extremely good platform which is not falling over as yet in spite of taking a real hammering.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
That's a very good point!RobD said:
She might be glad you are viewing more websites than just PB.Benpointer said:
Thanks for the warning - I'm gonna have to scrub my browsing history again now before Mrs P. does her weekly check!rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
Substitute the "ork" for an "ank"Foxy said:
Though isn't everyone "working from home" in their underpants?Charles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
If anyone wants more stuff to worry about, this is an excellent article on world currency flows:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-economy-currency.html0 -
The parents of our sixth formers joined their children on the school steps today to say goodbye to the school they had been at in many cases for 13 years. It was really sad. The school normally has a series of events for sixth formers including various parties and bbqs organised by former pupils, a leaving ceremony and much silliness. My daughter who left 5 years ago said that the last week was one of the best in her life.
These kids will get none of that. They won’t do the shows and the concerts, their final sports day etc. I feel really sorry for them. Add in the uncertainty and lack of control in respect of their results and the potential consequences for their University admission and you have a desperate state of affairs.
This generation will never forget Covid 19. My son and his year are to start their sixth year curriculum online on Monday. The Highers they worked for are now forgotten and they move on. I am really glad he has another year to get the things this year is missing.1 -
Personally, I think inflation is the least dangerous way of getting us through this.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)
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YesBenpointer said:Dow's not going to stop until it's sub 15,000 now is it?
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Knock yourself out:ukpaul said:
Johnny Marr?Nigelb said:
Jacob Marley.Andrew said:
I was vacillating between James Milner and Jamie Murray.Benpointer said:I missed it too - what is it?
Jenni Murray?
The ghost of Jessica Mitford?
https://peoplebyinitials.com/?q=JM0 -
Zoom is good, also Facebook MessengerMarqueeMark said:
Zoom worked fine, easy to download and operate. Free version times out within the hour, so you all have to log back in occasionally, or you can pay about £12 a month for the whistles and bells version.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
Mum and I just used it to talk to my brother and sister-in-law in Aberdeen, and coo at my little nephew. He's roughly three weeks oldCasino_Royale said:
Skype is absolute shite.SandyRentool said:
We use both. I'm more used to Skype for Business, which is what we use instead of phone calls these days.Richard_Tyndall said:
For work meetings we have started using Microsoft Teams which is a million times easier to use than Skype for Business. Extremely good platform which is not falling over as yet in spite of taking a real hammering.Benpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks
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30 year gilts are currently yielding under 1%.RobD said:
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
I normally do it half the time, so less of a change. I'm trying to have virtual coffee breaks with colleagues to maintain a degree of social interaction. We use Skype for Business for this!Anabobazina said:
Realise that’s in jest, but raises a serious question about how office-based PBers are finding the WFH thing. I WFH 3-4 days a week normally and have a home office so not massively different (although I miss my days in town with actual people).Foxy said:
Though isn't everyone "working from home" in their underpants?Charles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks
Are people getting used to it? (Top tip: get showered and dressed in the morning)0 -
What I need is Geordie's visor so I can walk around and see where the virus is and who the skanky bastards are.
Bet I'd be shocked.0 -
Surely you mean, “substitute an ‘ank’ for the ‘ork’?”Sunil_Prasannan said:
Substitute the "ork" for an "ank"Foxy said:
Though isn't everyone "working from home" in their underpants?Charles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
Given the interest rate on gilts at the moment that is the next best thing to free. But it is also misleading because the BoE is committed to buying £200bn of gilts in the market so it is really still QE.RobD said:
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
Ah, so it is QE. Sorry, @Benpointer.DavidL said:
Given the interest rate on gilts at the moment that is the next best thing to free. But it is also misleading because the BoE is committed to buying £200bn of gilts in the market so it is really still QE.RobD said:
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
I’ll have a crack.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)
We’ll have to pay for it in increased taxes (weighted heavily towards wealthy/middle class) but only when the economy has recovered.
Inflation not a short term concern given the massive suppression in aggregate demand. But, need to keep supply of scarce goods up (bog roll) or prices shoot up.0 -
And the rest.....global capitalism is fubar..edrcs1000 said:
YesBenpointer said:Dow's not going to stop until it's sub 15,000 now is it?
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This seems unbelievably optimistic to me:
https://twitter.com/KateAndrs/status/1241115045276368902?s=191 -
Benpointer said:
Dow's not going to stop until it's sub 15,000 now is it?
😂Benpointer said:
That's a very good point!RobD said:
She might be glad you are viewing more websites than just PB.Benpointer said:
Thanks for the warning - I'm gonna have to scrub my browsing history again now before Mrs P. does her weekly check!rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks0 -
No problem!RobD said:
Ah, so it is QE. Sorry, @Benpointer.DavidL said:
Given the interest rate on gilts at the moment that is the next best thing to free. But it is also misleading because the BoE is committed to buying £200bn of gilts in the market so it is really still QE.RobD said:
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
The government wants to pretend that there is still a market for UK gilts and is willing to pay the market makers a turn for helping them. So the market makers will buy the gilts from the government in the knowledge that the BoE will buy them from them at a slightly higher price. It’s the sort of thing Labour might get angry about if they understood it.RobD said:
Ah, so it is QE. Sorry, @Benpointer.DavidL said:
Given the interest rate on gilts at the moment that is the next best thing to free. But it is also misleading because the BoE is committed to buying £200bn of gilts in the market so it is really still QE.RobD said:
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)1 -
"But there is one big caveat: this modelling assumes that Covid-19, in historical terms anyway, is a short-lived phenomena which is tackled fairly quickly."Casino_Royale said:This seems unbelievably optimistic to me:
twitter.com/KateAndrs/status/1241115045276368902?s=19
Well you can stick that model in the same bin as the egg-heads initial coronavirus strategy.
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Yes it is going to stop or no it isn't going to stop (reach the bottom) before dropping below 15,000?rcs1000 said:
YesBenpointer said:Dow's not going to stop until it's sub 15,000 now is it?
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5000 plus new cases in USA0
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Depends how big the iceberg is.FrancisUrquhart said:
"But there is one big caveat: this modelling assumes that Covid-19, in historical terms anyway, is a short-lived phenomena which is tackled fairly quickly."Casino_Royale said:This seems unbelievably optimistic to me:
twitter.com/KateAndrs/status/1241115045276368902?s=19
Well you can stick that model in the same bin as the egg-heads initial coronavirus strategy.0 -
Imagine if they were properly testing how many it would be.Floater said:5000 plus new cases in USA
Unless the US have found a drug to mitigate this, it is going to be a incredible shit show.0 -
Well if the number of celebs getting it are anything to go by, there is no iceberg at all.RobD said:
Depends how big the iceberg is.FrancisUrquhart said:
"But there is one big caveat: this modelling assumes that Covid-19, in historical terms anyway, is a short-lived phenomena which is tackled fairly quickly."Casino_Royale said:This seems unbelievably optimistic to me:
twitter.com/KateAndrs/status/1241115045276368902?s=19
Well you can stick that model in the same bin as the egg-heads initial coronavirus strategy.0 -
Because it's effectively a free gift to the market makers?DavidL said:
The government wants to pretend that there is still a market for UK gilts and is willing to pay the market makers a turn for helping them. So the market makers will buy the gilts from the government in the knowledge that the BoE will buy them from them at a slightly higher price. It’s the sort of thing Labour might get angry about if they understood it.RobD said:
Ah, so it is QE. Sorry, @Benpointer.DavidL said:
Given the interest rate on gilts at the moment that is the next best thing to free. But it is also misleading because the BoE is committed to buying £200bn of gilts in the market so it is really still QE.RobD said:
They said in the press conference it would all be financed through the gilts market, so no printing of money.Benpointer said:Calling all PB economists - is my thinking right here?:
1. The government is going to spend a £gazillion in getting us through this crisis.
2. It can pay for that by simply printing (or rather electronically creating) money.
3. The net effect of that is to reduce the real value of each £.
4. Normally that would lead to inflation because imports would become more expensive... but...
5. Every other major economy (and certainly the EU and the US) is going to have to do the same so:
6. The net effect will be neutral.
Is that right?
If not how is this going to be paid for? (I'm assuming wacking up taxes would be a bad idea at the moment because it would supress demand.)0 -
i make a point of dressing for dinner. you have to maintain standards in these difficult timesFoxy said:
Though isn't everyone "working from home" in their underpants?Charles said:
Shouldn't you add a NSFW warning...rcs1000 said:
I believe most people use https://redtube.comBenpointer said:
Looking to run our book club (8 members) 'virtually' next week. by video conference.MarqueeMark said:Zoom Virtual Party proving a big hit.
Devon x 2, Wimbledon, Bristol x2, Nothern Ireland, Sussex, Derby all hooked up playing games.
And no red wine spilt on the sofa, Carrie...
What (free) platform would PBers recommend bearing in mid we will be first-time users: Facetime, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom, something else?
Thanks2 -
Interesting article by Frank Furedi.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/03/20/a-disaster-without-precedent/1 -
Apparently our confirmed case numbers are using tests that take 3 days whereas other places are on 4 hour testing ?0
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Seriously.......this is bolloxCasino_Royale said:This seems unbelievably optimistic to me:
https://twitter.com/KateAndrs/status/1241115045276368902?s=19
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What does the US “shelter-in-place” decree mean in practice and do we know how many states have implemented it?0
