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What is really incredible about the Richi Sunak is that barely anybody had heard of him just 6 months ago. Now he is barely off the front pages, one of the key faces of the Johnson government and miles ahead of anybody else in the betting for Johnson’s successor as Conservative leader.
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Fall of Saigon at the Supermarket. People seem to have got the memo on hand sanitising, but not really social distancing.0
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Yes, what a tip that was. And I did not follow it. Sloppy City.0
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Rishi Sunak won't have made it until people get his first name right.
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My son tells me people were all over each other trying to get toilet paper in ASDA last night - he decided social distancing took precedence over getting even more loo roll.Pulpstar said:Fall of Saigon at the Supermarket. People seem to have got the memo on hand sanitising, but not really social distancing.
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Subtle, like it :-)DecrepiterJohnL said:Rishi Sunak won't have made it until people get his first name right.
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Powerful stuff
Leo Varadkar, Ireland’s taoiseach, has won praise for a national address on Tuesday night that made grim predictions and called for sacrifice, responsibility and solidarity, writes Rory Carroll.
In a rare interruption to television schedules, the premier appeared on screens at 9pm in a sombre and at times emotional speech that struck Churchillian notes in saying many will die and the economy will reel in coming weeks and months.
“This is the calm before the storm, before the surge. And when it comes, and it will come, never will so many ask so much of so few.”0 -
Sunak for Number 10 is OK as a trading bet but at current prices (or even longer prices) you'd wonder when the vacancy will occur. He'd need Boris to step down before losing an election.0
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Jesus f*** that 3.5m is black death stuff.Floater said:0 -
The idea that China should pay reparations for this crisis due to the incompetent response from western governments is laughable.0
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Wasn't Sunak's break when he was put up for one of the election debates in Johnson's stead?0
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Oh sh*t, the Democrats have been out flanked once again. The GOP are going economic populist whilst keeping their xenophobic bs, all this signals Trump being re-elected. Ffs.0
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Who on earth came up with that ideaMartin_Kinsella said:The idea that China should pay reparations for this crisis due to the incompetent response from western governments is laughable.
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It’s a good point. Oldies and infirm need to be social distancing, are these select group happy hours to entice them out more of a dangerous gimmick to shift more stock than genuinely helpful? The genuine people at risk should have a proxy in the scrum fighting for them, not themselves?Pulpstar said:Fall of Saigon at the Supermarket. People seem to have got the memo on hand sanitising, but not really social distancing.
What would be genuinely helpful is for these retailers to sort out the mess and breakdown of their deliveries system? The strong way to ration items and share around would be online delivery?
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Sanders may have done better this year with economic *and* health populism, if he'd just stopped going on about being a socialist, which in large parts of America still equates to Bolshevism.nunu2 said:Oh sh*t, the Democrats have been out flanked once again. The GOP are going economic populist whilst keeping their xenophobic bs, all this signals Trump being re-elected. Ffs.
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Richi Sunak has burst onto the scene in a field of mainly non descript mps and is destined for the top job some day
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It is an OOM less than black death stuff - 4% not 40%.Slackbladder said:
Jesus f*** that 3.5m is black death stuff.Floater said:
Which makes it frighteningly credible, or at least less incredible than one would like.0 -
A cure in sight? Chinese trials of a Japanese drug are promising.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china0 -
Well true, but even that % would have a massive trauma on any country.IshmaelZ said:
It is an OOM less than black death stuff - 4% not 40%.Slackbladder said:
Jesus f*** that 3.5m is black death stuff.Floater said:
Which makes it frighteningly credible, or at least less incredible than one would like.0 -
The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?0 -
I am deeply suspicious of Wykehamists in political life. The two that spring immediately to mind are Milne, and Mosley.0
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Yup.Big_G_NorthWales said:Richi Sunak has burst onto the scene in a field of mainly non descript mps and is destined for the top job some day
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Typo in the name of the author....0
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Not disagreeing.Slackbladder said:
Well true, but even that % would have a massive trauma on any country.IshmaelZ said:
It is an OOM less than black death stuff - 4% not 40%.Slackbladder said:
Jesus f*** that 3.5m is black death stuff.Floater said:
Which makes it frighteningly credible, or at least less incredible than one would like.0 -
3.5 million??? Do they have a different strain?Floater said:0 -
Step down or die. He doesn't exactly look in the pink of health before the Rona gets into him.DecrepiterJohnL said:Sunak for Number 10 is OK as a trading bet but at current prices (or even longer prices) you'd wonder when the vacancy will occur. He'd need Boris to step down before losing an election.
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Yes. Trump's landed on the right answer just as the Dems under Pelosi get it wrong.nunu2 said:Oh sh*t, the Democrats have been out flanked once again. The GOP are going economic populist whilst keeping their xenophobic bs, all this signals Trump being re-elected. Ffs.
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Jonathan:
"NICE determines cost-effectiveness of treatment using a figure of £20k-£30k per year of life (QALY) gained.
This appears to have been thrown out of the window for Corona. We are now in 'whatever it takes' territory.
Not quite."
It's £20-£30K most of the time but not all. End of life it is 50K per year.
But the crucial bit is it is £20-30K PER YEAR. How many years shortfall will these people have missed out upon? For some not many (they are old and have multimorbidity etc). For many others it could be a LOT. Your doctors and nurses who are in their prime will lose a lot of QALYs (10+). Multiply that by 30K or 50K and we are talking serious numbers. Average all that out and it will probably be close to this package in monetary terms, although I haven't bothered to crunch the numbers.
However, that is the health effect that we are trying to counter-act. What none of the models currently are doing is calculating the general equilibrium problem and the feedback loops coming from an economy in recession/depression. That's because these are infectious disease modellers not macroeconomic modellers. They are working in silo with epidemiology data. When the government gets round the macro consequences they will realise they have offered economic policies which are basically a peashooter when we need a bazooker.
We need a radical plan, something like a free (but low) universal income combined with free utilities and a substantial (for the whole lockdown period) mortgage holiday.0 -
We are on day 2 of 3 months and it is quite surrealTheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?0 -
I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.0
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Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?2 -
I'm worried about this too. Unlike most, my view is that Trump without coronavirus would have been beaten. So if the crisis and consequent economic hit is bad for him - as intuitively one feels it ought to be - this just makes his demise even more certain. But if he really does start showering the country with cheques, there must be a risk that people start to think he cares about them. And if they think that, they might vote for him. So, yes, I'm a little worried.nunu2 said:Oh sh*t, the Democrats have been out flanked once again. The GOP are going economic populist whilst keeping their xenophobic bs, all this signals Trump being re-elected. Ffs.
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Someone equated that to a 4% death rate - so, no.NerysHughes said:
3.5 million??? Do they have a different strain?Floater said:0 -
Good plan.IanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
Also, self policing. One sees a lot of cobblers about calling the troops in to supermarkets but the displeasure of people back in the queue if you start trying to persuade the cashier that 6 is the new 3 is flung to sort most people out.1 -
That is bad, but on the other hand if the American and British embrace of neo-Victorian attitudes to welfare since the 1980s, which has been both economically and socially damaging, is ended, and incomes policies change worldwide, that will be a good thing both for the long-term sustainability of the global economy and social cohesion.kinabalu said:
I'm worried about this too. Unlike most, my view is that Trump without coronavirus would have been beaten. So if the crisis and consequent economic hit is bad for him - as intuitively one feels it ought to be - this just makes his demise even more certain. But if he really does start showering the country with cheques, there must be a risk that people start to think he cares about them. And if they think that, they might vote for him. So, yes, I'm a little worried.nunu2 said:Oh sh*t, the Democrats have been out flanked once again. The GOP are going economic populist whilst keeping their xenophobic bs, all this signals Trump being re-elected. Ffs.
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Thanks, I don't have any symptoms so far, but as my kids and my parents are under the same roof as me, I'm not taking in any chances.MarqueeMark said:
Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?0 -
Do you really think the death rate of Covid-19 is 4% ?Floater said:
Someone equated that to a 4% death rate - so, no.NerysHughes said:
3.5 million??? Do they have a different strain?Floater said:0 -
You have your parents in the same house as your kids? That doesn't sound a good idea to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't have any symptoms so far, but as my kids and my parents are under the same roof as me, I'm not taking in any chances.MarqueeMark said:
Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?0 -
I don't believe the difference between intervention and nothing ranges from 12,000 to 3,500,000. The figures at both ends are surely wrong.Floater said:
Someone equated that to a 4% death rate - so, no.NerysHughes said:
3.5 million??? Do they have a different strain?Floater said:0 -
When was the last time Great Britain made a ventilator, for how long have we been reliant on importing them0
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He is a good presenter and clearly understands macro-economics. However, if he thinks that plan is going to last more than a couple of weeks then he is wrong.Big_G_NorthWales said:Richi Sunak has burst onto the scene in a field of mainly non descript mps and is destined for the top job some day
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Has any PBer actually caught covid-19? I seem to remember one early victim?GideonWise said:
You have your parents in the same house as your kids? That doesn't sound a good idea to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't have any symptoms so far, but as my kids and my parents are under the same roof as me, I'm not taking in any chances.MarqueeMark said:
Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?0 -
Since 2013 my kids and I have been living under the same roof as my parents.GideonWise said:
You have your parents in the same house as your kids? That doesn't sound a good idea to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't have any symptoms so far, but as my kids and my parents are under the same roof as me, I'm not taking in any chances.MarqueeMark said:
Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?
I took the kids out of school last week, so we should be ok.
Plus my father's a retired doctor, is useful to be living under the same roof as a doctor.0 -
I read that Sainsbury's is going to reserve spcial delivery times for the over 70s and medically vulnerable. As all 3 of us in the family fall into one or more of those categories, I have just registered with them. Hassle-free, unlike Waitrose. No delivery slots available currently but said website said to keep coming back to check as new slots will be available soon.Floater said:
GoodIanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
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Sunak is very impressive but how little is he?! He looks about nine stone and 5'5"?WhisperingOracle said:
Yup.Big_G_NorthWales said:Richi Sunak has burst onto the scene in a field of mainly non descript mps and is destined for the top job some day
He reminds me of Tony Blair
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Mr. Fenster, judge him by his size, do you?1
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A competitive opportunity for the first supermarket that sorts out its website and delivery operations and ramps up for the extra demand.SandraMc said:
I read that Sainsbury's is going to reserve spcial delivery times for the over 70s and medically vulnerable. As all 3 of us in the family fall into one or more of those categories, I have just registered with them. Hassle-free, unlike Waitrose. No delivery slots available currently but said website said to keep coming back to check as new slots will be available soon.Floater said:
GoodIanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
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Yes, I can see and appreciate that. Much of what I believe in, politically, might come to pass as a direct or indirect consequence of this remarkable crisis.WhisperingOracle said:That is bad, but on the other hand if the American and British embrace of neo-Victorian attitudes to welfare since the 1980s, which has been both economically and socially damaging, is ended, and incomes policies change worldwide, that will be a good thing both for the long-term sustainability of the global economy and social cohesion.
But my hatred of Trump - and I mean the H word here - is such that I struggle for perspective when it comes to the prospect of him getting 4 more years.
Still, don't get me wrong, I'm not changing my call. He's toast. I'm just not quite as confident right now as I have been for so long.0 -
Day 5 weather very breezy high of 18 but won’t feel like it. Need to find better use of the time so will go back to reading for a while each day. Have discovered a couple of places doing home delivery so that may relieve the boredom of my cooking. Still waiting on an MRI appointment to come through. I still don’t know anyone with the virus or anyone who does know someone. That’s not surprising given we have 540 cases in Valencia out of a population of 4.5 M the growing concern is in relation to domestic violence, something that unfortunately is quite prevalent in Spain. This situation could seriously exacerbate the problem.0
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Our use of hard force is going to need to be targeted. If unchecked, going to the supermarkets will become an absolute mission in itself.IshmaelZ said:
Good plan.IanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
Also, self policing. One sees a lot of cobblers about calling the troops in to supermarkets but the displeasure of people back in the queue if you start trying to persuade the cashier that 6 is the new 3 is flung to sort most people out.
I can imagine supermarkets are going to need to pool resources and perhaps some might need to close. Security might not stretch to multiple shops and without security, our lovable scrotes will just come in and mass steal.0 -
Best of luck.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?
The number of people reporting anecdotes like this suggests that there are far more people infected than the official numbers report.0 -
I see. Keep safe. Hope you are all good.TheScreamingEagles said:
Since 2013 my kids and I have been living under the same roof as my parents.GideonWise said:
You have your parents in the same house as your kids? That doesn't sound a good idea to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't have any symptoms so far, but as my kids and my parents are under the same roof as me, I'm not taking in any chances.MarqueeMark said:
Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?
I took the kids out of school last week, so we should be ok.
Plus my father's a retired doctor, is useful to be living under the same roof as a doctor.0 -
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Just had another report of lockdown this Friday - allegedly a big announcement coming Thursday.
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I read that dog walking (or just walking) is going to be okay, as long as you try to stay two metres from others.Big_G_NorthWales said:
We are on day 2 of 3 months and it is quite surrealTheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?
If I get put on lockdown I'm going to try to spend as much time as possible walking the hills (if I'm healthy, of course).
So far with us, situation is still normal. Kids in school, wife and me in work, shops pretty normal. Things are starting to close though, like the local boys and girls club and Ramp World and sports centres. When the kids get sent home it will be tough to keep them entertained.0 -
Sunak will certainly be favourite to become next PM if Boris steps down before the next general election now. The question would then be facing a general election after 13 or 14 years of his party in office if he faced the fate of the former Chancellor John Major, who became PM and succeeded Thatcher in 1990 and narrowly won the 1992 general election after 13 years of the Tories in power against Neil Kinnock or if he faced the fate of the former Chancellor Gordon Brown who became PM and succeeded Blair in 2007 and narrowly lost the 2010 general election after 13 years of Labour in power to David Cameron.
Sir Keir Starmer assuming he is elected the new Labour leader will clearly hope to be Cameron not Kinnock, though of course we should remember even Cameron was only able to form a government in coalition with the LDs, the 2010 general election producing a hung parliament and not a Conservative majority despite the fact the Tories gained 96 seats0 -
There's a novelty value at the moment for something that in reality is going to become quite tedious for all but the natural hermits amongst us.Big_G_NorthWales said:
We are on day 2 of 3 months and it is quite surrealTheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?0 -
I presume they won't all be coronavirus related. If your healthcare system collapses, then people will die in large number of other causes. If vital services are severely disrupted that will also result in deaths.Floater said:
Someone equated that to a 4% death rate - so, no.NerysHughes said:
3.5 million??? Do they have a different strain?Floater said:0 -
Glad that the tip was appreciated and thanks OGH and TSE for letting me send it in as a guest post.
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Already reports that the army will be deployed - if a local scrote wants to try his luck against a para I will enjoy watchingGideonWise said:
Our use of hard force is going to need to be targeted. If unchecked, going to the supermarkets will become an absolute mission in itself.IshmaelZ said:
Good plan.IanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
Also, self policing. One sees a lot of cobblers about calling the troops in to supermarkets but the displeasure of people back in the queue if you start trying to persuade the cashier that 6 is the new 3 is flung to sort most people out.
I can imagine supermarkets are going to need to pool resources and perhaps some might need to close. Security might not stretch to multiple shops and without security, our lovable scrotes will just come in and mass steal.0 -
I've been trying to think about how Covid-19 would drive change. I have to admit that it hadn't occurred to me that it would give a rocket boost to the move to a cashless society.0
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He already is, in the circumstance you describe - didn't you check before typing all that?HYUFD said:Sunak will certainly be favourite to become next PM if Boris steps down before the next general election now. The question would then be facing a general election after 13 or 14 years of his party in office if he faced the fate of the former Chancellor John Major, who narrowly won the 1992 general election after 13 years of the Tories in power against Neil Kinnock or if he faced the fate of Gordon Brown who narrowly lost the 2010 general election after 13 years of Labour in power to David Cameron.
Sir Keir Starmer assuming he is elected the new Labour leader will clearly hope to be Cameron not Kinnock, though of course we should remember even Cameron was only able to form a government in coalition with the LDs, the 2010 general election producing a hung parliament and not a Conservative majority despite the fact the Tories gained 96 seats0 -
It will if we move to negative interest rates, since government will need to stop people holding cash.AlastairMeeks said:I've been trying to think about how Covid-19 would drive change. I have to admit that it hadn't occurred to me that it would give a rocket boost to the move to a cashless society.
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Sunak is not for everyone. Mrs Jonathan said he was 'creepy' last night.
I suspect he will join the John Moore society of future prime ministers.0 -
Morris_Dancer said:
Mr. Fenster, judge him by his size, do you?
Ha! Not at all. I'm just surprised at how little he looked on TV yesterday!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Fenster, judge him by his size, do you?
You know what our media is like. Ed Miliband was skewered for looking like a nerd. The cartoons will have fun with Sunak for being small.0 -
Powerful indeedFloater said:Powerful stuff
Leo Varadkar, Ireland’s taoiseach, has won praise for a national address on Tuesday night that made grim predictions and called for sacrifice, responsibility and solidarity, writes Rory Carroll.
In a rare interruption to television schedules, the premier appeared on screens at 9pm in a sombre and at times emotional speech that struck Churchillian notes in saying many will die and the economy will reel in coming weeks and months.
“This is the calm before the storm, before the surge. And when it comes, and it will come, never will so many ask so much of so few.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-varadkar-addresses-nation-and-says-crisis-may-last-months-1.42053730 -
Why is the NHS still not testing people even its employees? Example of woman who died at 80 and otherwise would probably have lived to 90 because she had no 'underlying conditions'
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/17/there-is-a-policy-of-surrender-doctor-on-uks-covid-19-failures?__twitter_impression=true0 -
Charles's dad I think? and I may have misunderstood but perhaps someone in Cyclefrees family?Stocky said:
Has any PBer actually caught covid-19? I seem to remember one early victim?GideonWise said:
You have your parents in the same house as your kids? That doesn't sound a good idea to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't have any symptoms so far, but as my kids and my parents are under the same roof as me, I'm not taking in any chances.MarqueeMark said:
Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?0 -
Your computer is your friend. Just don't let anyone else use it, especially the keyboardTheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?1 -
They are, at least in this area and a couple of others I am aware ofrural_voter said:Why is the NHS still not testing people even its employees? Example of woman who died at 80 and otherwise would probably have lived to 90 because she had no 'underlying conditions'
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/17/there-is-a-policy-of-surrender-doctor-on-uks-covid-19-failures?__twitter_impression=true0 -
All the other ministers in Jonson's cabinet got their jobs by being ideologically correct on Brexit and not showing any obvious competence. They owe everything to Johnson's patronage. Sunak got his job by accident of a bungled humiliation of his predecessor. A metaphorical giant amongst pigmies, if physically somewhat the opposite.0
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Difficult to be comfortable with the parachute regiment as poster boys for military crowd control services. How is your modern history?Floater said:
Already reports that the army will be deployed - if a local scrote wants to try his luck against a para I will enjoy watchingGideonWise said:
Our use of hard force is going to need to be targeted. If unchecked, going to the supermarkets will become an absolute mission in itself.IshmaelZ said:
Good plan.IanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
Also, self policing. One sees a lot of cobblers about calling the troops in to supermarkets but the displeasure of people back in the queue if you start trying to persuade the cashier that 6 is the new 3 is flung to sort most people out.
I can imagine supermarkets are going to need to pool resources and perhaps some might need to close. Security might not stretch to multiple shops and without security, our lovable scrotes will just come in and mass steal.0 -
Ta, I agree, and it is why I'm expecting a hard lockdown by the weekend across the country.another_richard said:
Best of luck.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?
The number of people reporting anecdotes like this suggests that there are far more people infected than the official numbers report.0 -
I reckon it will have quite a profound effect on some individuals. I know a lot of people who work stupid hours, are clearly unhappy doing it, but do it out of habit/fear of change/desire to hold onto status etc. It wouldn't surprise me if many individuals who work like that suddenly realise what they are missing with their family/life balance and will end up never going back to work. Stepping off the hamster wheel will have a weird psychological effect on them.AlastairMeeks said:I've been trying to think about how Covid-19 would drive change. I have to admit that it hadn't occurred to me that it would give a rocket boost to the move to a cashless society.
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The NHS is testing thousands of people per day and testing is ramping up.rural_voter said:Why is the NHS still not testing people even its employees? Example of woman who died at 80 and otherwise would probably have lived to 90 because she had no 'underlying conditions'
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/17/there-is-a-policy-of-surrender-doctor-on-uks-covid-19-failures?__twitter_impression=true
There's a limit to how many people can be tested and have those tests processed at once. Testing NHS employees is a priority but until more testing can be done its not just a case of saying "test everyone" and then its done.1 -
Any, er, other bright ideas for a guest slot....?Philip_Thompson said:Glad that the tip was appreciated and thanks OGH and TSE for letting me send it in as a guest post.
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I am, I've locked myself in my bedroom which fortunately has a TV, Sky Q mini box, and en suite.GideonWise said:
I see. Keep safe. Hope you are all good.TheScreamingEagles said:
Since 2013 my kids and I have been living under the same roof as my parents.GideonWise said:
You have your parents in the same house as your kids? That doesn't sound a good idea to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't have any symptoms so far, but as my kids and my parents are under the same roof as me, I'm not taking in any chances.MarqueeMark said:
Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?
I took the kids out of school last week, so we should be ok.
Plus my father's a retired doctor, is useful to be living under the same roof as a doctor.
Oh my laptop.
Is bizarre facetiming with the family who are elsewhere in the house.0 -
Already is what? Sunak is Chancellor not PM and we are 10 years into the Tories in government not yet 13 or 14IanB2 said:
He already is, in the circumstance you describe - didn't you check before typing all that?HYUFD said:Sunak will certainly be favourite to become next PM if Boris steps down before the next general election now. The question would then be facing a general election after 13 or 14 years of his party in office if he faced the fate of the former Chancellor John Major, who narrowly won the 1992 general election after 13 years of the Tories in power against Neil Kinnock or if he faced the fate of Gordon Brown who narrowly lost the 2010 general election after 13 years of Labour in power to David Cameron.
Sir Keir Starmer assuming he is elected the new Labour leader will clearly hope to be Cameron not Kinnock, though of course we should remember even Cameron was only able to form a government in coalition with the LDs, the 2010 general election producing a hung parliament and not a Conservative majority despite the fact the Tories gained 96 seats0 -
Hopefully we have learnt the lesson from Italy. Despite London being a few weeks ahead, lockdowns within countries don't work and in fact make the problem worse.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ta, I agree, and it is why I'm expecting a hard lockdown by the weekend across the country.another_richard said:
Best of luck.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?
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The Diamond Princess shows why the 3.5 million figure is nonsense. That ship was the perfect breeding ground for the virus and the majority of people were aged over 60, they had 16 days in quarantine living on top of each other yet only 20% of passengers tested postive with 25% having no symptons.IanB2 said:
I don't believe the difference between intervention and nothing ranges from 12,000 to 3,500,000. The figures at both ends are surely wrong.Floater said:
Someone equated that to a 4% death rate - so, no.NerysHughes said:
3.5 million??? Do they have a different strain?Floater said:
A large proportion of the population must be immune to Covid-19
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He was excellent yesterday, even better than he was at the budget. I agree that his confidence is increasing. He is articulate and quick but also measured. His biggest problem is that there isn’t a vacancy and Boris doesn’t plan on there being one for a while.1
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Good enough thanks.IshmaelZ said:
Difficult to be comfortable with the parachute regiment as poster boys for military crowd control services. How is your modern history?Floater said:
Already reports that the army will be deployed - if a local scrote wants to try his luck against a para I will enjoy watchingGideonWise said:
Our use of hard force is going to need to be targeted. If unchecked, going to the supermarkets will become an absolute mission in itself.IshmaelZ said:
Good plan.IanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
Also, self policing. One sees a lot of cobblers about calling the troops in to supermarkets but the displeasure of people back in the queue if you start trying to persuade the cashier that 6 is the new 3 is flung to sort most people out.
I can imagine supermarkets are going to need to pool resources and perhaps some might need to close. Security might not stretch to multiple shops and without security, our lovable scrotes will just come in and mass steal.
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I for one am happy that we have Rishi in lock-step with the PM. Not sure how this situation would have played out if No.10 didn't have confidence that an independent No. 11 and Sajid's Spads were going to do the right thing....1
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It's also why I am calling peak London. The attraction of cities will reduce, and an awful lot of people are going to find out they don't need to be there so often, or indeed at all.Fenster said:
I reckon it will have quite a profound effect on some individuals. I know a lot of people who work stupid hours, are clearly unhappy doing it, but do it out of habit/fear of change/desire to hold onto status etc. It wouldn't surprise me if many individuals who work like that suddenly realise what they are missing with their family/life balance and will end up never going back to work. Stepping off the hamster wheel will have a weird psychological effect on them.AlastairMeeks said:I've been trying to think about how Covid-19 would drive change. I have to admit that it hadn't occurred to me that it would give a rocket boost to the move to a cashless society.
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I'd rather deal with chavs that the Para Reg. Their track record on police actions isn't exactly sparkling.Floater said:
Already reports that the army will be deployed - if a local scrote wants to try his luck against a para I will enjoy watchingGideonWise said:
Our use of hard force is going to need to be targeted. If unchecked, going to the supermarkets will become an absolute mission in itself.IshmaelZ said:
Good plan.IanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
Also, self policing. One sees a lot of cobblers about calling the troops in to supermarkets but the displeasure of people back in the queue if you start trying to persuade the cashier that 6 is the new 3 is flung to sort most people out.
I can imagine supermarkets are going to need to pool resources and perhaps some might need to close. Security might not stretch to multiple shops and without security, our lovable scrotes will just come in and mass steal.1 -
That puts your "enjoy watching" into context, then.Floater said:
Good enough thanks.IshmaelZ said:
Difficult to be comfortable with the parachute regiment as poster boys for military crowd control services. How is your modern history?Floater said:
Already reports that the army will be deployed - if a local scrote wants to try his luck against a para I will enjoy watchingGideonWise said:
Our use of hard force is going to need to be targeted. If unchecked, going to the supermarkets will become an absolute mission in itself.IshmaelZ said:
Good plan.IanB2 said:I see that Sainsbury's new rules prevent buying of more than three of any item and more than two of a list of more popular items.
Also, self policing. One sees a lot of cobblers about calling the troops in to supermarkets but the displeasure of people back in the queue if you start trying to persuade the cashier that 6 is the new 3 is flung to sort most people out.
I can imagine supermarkets are going to need to pool resources and perhaps some might need to close. Security might not stretch to multiple shops and without security, our lovable scrotes will just come in and mass steal.0 -
Who can tell these days.DavidL said:He was excellent yesterday, even better than he was at the budget. I agree that his confidence is increasing. He is articulate and quick but also measured. His biggest problem is that there isn’t a vacancy and Boris doesn’t plan on there being one for a while.
It's not like there is anything increasing death's dark shadow at the moment .......0 -
So, I'm currently in Loughborough. My wife needed her Zoladex implant, and the only chemist that had stock today was Superdrug, so I had no choice but to do a Rick Grimes and make a run in to zombieville. I can report it is very quiet, but all shops and cafés are open. I'm currently having an oatmilk flatwhite and peanut butter flapjack under my umbrella outside the best vegan deli in the county while I wait for her prescription . The cafe owner thinks she'll be bust by June, unless she can get her head around yesterday's Sunak speech.2
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Sunak is ten times as impressive as Javid. I didn't take to Javid's speaking style at all, and he lost me when he did that silly legs-apart stance.MarqueeMark said:I for one am happy that we have Rishi in lock-step with the PM. Not sure how this situation would have played out if No.10 didn't have confidence that an independent No. 11 and Sajid's Spads were going to do the right thing....
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The Diamond Princess was an opportunity missed. Unethical but I think from a controlled experiment perspective it would have been useful to keep that ship quarantined for a few more weeks.NerysHughes said:
The Diamond Princess shows why the 3.5 million figure is nonsense. That ship was the perfect breeding ground for the virus and the majority of people were aged over 60, they had 16 days in quarantine living on top of each other yet only 20% of passengers tested postive with 25% having no symptons.IanB2 said:
I don't believe the difference between intervention and nothing ranges from 12,000 to 3,500,000. The figures at both ends are surely wrong.Floater said:
Someone equated that to a 4% death rate - so, no.NerysHughes said:
3.5 million??? Do they have a different strain?Floater said:
A large proportion of the population must be immune to Covid-19
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.10.20001800 -
This is the one I can see.Fenster said:
I reckon it will have quite a profound effect on some individuals. I know a lot of people who work stupid hours, are clearly unhappy doing it, but do it out of habit/fear of change/desire to hold onto status etc. It wouldn't surprise me if many individuals who work like that suddenly realise what they are missing with their family/life balance and will end up never going back to work. Stepping off the hamster wheel will have a weird psychological effect on them.AlastairMeeks said:I've been trying to think about how Covid-19 would drive change. I have to admit that it hadn't occurred to me that it would give a rocket boost to the move to a cashless society.
Where I am, higher ups are trying to make everyone work from home but are also finding that while people are fine with that, the ideas of, say, check-in phone calls and massive online meetings are going down like a turd in a jacuzzi.0 -
Agree. I avoid London at all costs. Last year it took me three hours to drive from near the Olympic Stadium to Hammersmith. God knows how Londonders tolerate thatIanB2 said:
It's also why I am calling peak London. The attraction of cities will reduce, and an awful lot of people are going to find out they don't need to be there so often, or indeed at all.Fenster said:
I reckon it will have quite a profound effect on some individuals. I know a lot of people who work stupid hours, are clearly unhappy doing it, but do it out of habit/fear of change/desire to hold onto status etc. It wouldn't surprise me if many individuals who work like that suddenly realise what they are missing with their family/life balance and will end up never going back to work. Stepping off the hamster wheel will have a weird psychological effect on them.AlastairMeeks said:I've been trying to think about how Covid-19 would drive change. I have to admit that it hadn't occurred to me that it would give a rocket boost to the move to a cashless society.
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If it's peak London, then it's also peak globalisation.IanB2 said:
It's also why I am calling peak London. The attraction of cities will reduce, and an awful lot of people are going to find out they don't need to be there so often, or indeed at all.Fenster said:
I reckon it will have quite a profound effect on some individuals. I know a lot of people who work stupid hours, are clearly unhappy doing it, but do it out of habit/fear of change/desire to hold onto status etc. It wouldn't surprise me if many individuals who work like that suddenly realise what they are missing with their family/life balance and will end up never going back to work. Stepping off the hamster wheel will have a weird psychological effect on them.AlastairMeeks said:I've been trying to think about how Covid-19 would drive change. I have to admit that it hadn't occurred to me that it would give a rocket boost to the move to a cashless society.
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I got knocked flat by what I thought was a bad flu beginning of february which resurged a couple of weeks later both times for 5 days. Symptoms seem to match but could also of course have been a normal flu as didn't get a testStocky said:
Has any PBer actually caught covid-19? I seem to remember one early victim?GideonWise said:
You have your parents in the same house as your kids? That doesn't sound a good idea to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't have any symptoms so far, but as my kids and my parents are under the same roof as me, I'm not taking in any chances.MarqueeMark said:
Look after yourself - hope it isn't the lurgy, or if it is, you are shortly back up and running.TheScreamingEagles said:The person I spent most of last weekend with now has a persistent cough and this morning told me she has a temperature.
Self isolation should be fun right?0 -
We've tested about 30,000.Philip_Thompson said:
The NHS is testing thousands of people per day and testing is ramping up.rural_voter said:Why is the NHS still not testing people even its employees? Example of woman who died at 80 and otherwise would probably have lived to 90 because she had no 'underlying conditions'
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/17/there-is-a-policy-of-surrender-doctor-on-uks-covid-19-failures?__twitter_impression=true
There's a limit to how many people can be tested and have those tests processed at once. Testing NHS employees is a priority but until more testing can be done its not just a case of saying "test everyone" and then its done.
Source https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
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I was wondering last night if Javid regrets his decision. I suppose he'd still be opposed to the government's approach to general spending, but that has rapidly been overtaken by events.MarqueeMark said:I for one am happy that we have Rishi in lock-step with the PM. Not sure how this situation would have played out if No.10 didn't have confidence that an independent No. 11 and Sajid's Spads were going to do the right thing....
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