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It is widely known that London tends to have a different view of the world than the rest of GB and so it appears to be with this month’s Euro elections.
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Nigel Farage hit by an egg in Nottinghamshire, after chickening out of running in Newark yesterday.
So we finally have an answer to that question about the chicken and the egg.
The chicken came first, then the egg.0 -
Can see the Milibandwagon's rent proposals going down very well in London no matter if they are any good or not.0
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OGH the change on 2009 Yougov option is showing same numbers as Survation. Shurely shome mishtake?0
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You are getting more twattish by the hour.TheScreamingEagles said:Nigel Farage hit by an egg in Nottingham, after chickening out of running in Newark yesterday.
So we finally have an answer to that question about the chicken and the egg.
The chicken came first, then the egg.
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There is some voodoo going on in dee polls0
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Kippers = The Fuzzy Wuzzies.MikeK said:FPT
You are getting more twattish by the hour.TheScreamingEagles said:Nigel Farage hit by an egg in Nottingham, after chickening out of running in Newark yesterday.
So we finally have an answer to that question about the chicken and the egg.
The chicken came first, then the egg.
They don't like it up 'em Mr Mainwaring.0 -
Must have been a left wing eggstremist?0
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It's depressing when politicians of any side get stuff thrown at them. At least they're doing their best to engage in the democratic protest. The egg-throwers are just juvenile idiots incapable of making reasoned arguments.TheScreamingEagles said:Nigel Farage hit by an egg in Nottinghamshire, after chickening out of running in Newark yesterday.
So we finally have an answer to that question about the chicken and the egg.
The chicken came first, then the egg.0 -
Did the police scramble to his assistance?0
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Kipper tie?
It must be time for Mr Eagles notorious 'jam joke'.0 -
Big decline for the Green Party on last time. They'll be well miffed if they lose their London seat, but at least it will be turning Red not Blue.0
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Let's get serious. This was no yoke0
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Indeed.Socrates said:
It's depressing when politicians of any side get stuff thrown at them. At least they're doing their best to engage in the democratic protest. The egg-throwers are just juvenile idiots incapable of making reasoned arguments.TheScreamingEagles said:Nigel Farage hit by an egg in Nottinghamshire, after chickening out of running in Newark yesterday.
So we finally have an answer to that question about the chicken and the egg.
The chicken came first, then the egg.
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I know, one of my earliest memories was of John Major getting egged in the '92 election.Socrates said:
It's depressing when politicians of any side get stuff thrown at them. At least they're doing their best to engage in the democratic protest. The egg-throwers are just juvenile idiots incapable of making reasoned arguments.TheScreamingEagles said:Nigel Farage hit by an egg in Nottinghamshire, after chickening out of running in Newark yesterday.
So we finally have an answer to that question about the chicken and the egg.
The chicken came first, then the egg.
The election that made me a Tory.0 -
All right - that's un oeuf egg puns...0
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One for the kipper photo albumen.
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How many policemen does it take to smash an egg?Smarmeron said:Did the police scramble to his assistance?
None. It fell down the stairs.0 -
A political oeufquake.TGOHF said:One for the kipper photo albumen.
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I think it would be more offensive to Farage, if he had a croissant thrown at him.
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Polling tends to underestimate support for the Greens.SandyRentool said:Big decline for the Green Party on last time. They'll be well miffed if they lose their London seat, but at least it will be turning Red not Blue.
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I think the comment section is falling fowl of it's usual high standards, doubt this incident will crack UKIP however.0
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To be honest, I think scores of 36-38% for UKIP are a bit too good to be true. c.30% seems more plausible.0 -
REMEMBER TOMORROW. The next Dirty Dicks (opp Liverpool Street station in London) gathering will start 6.30pm. Looking forward to seeing as many PBers as possible.
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Perchance, did the content then leak into the press?TheScreamingEagles said:
How many policemen does it take to smash an egg?Smarmeron said:Did the police scramble to his assistance?
None. It fell down the stairs.0 -
Beardy weirdy that did it I see.. that'll be more votes in the UKIP hod from normal people
Nige should've done a Prescott and banged him out!
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You could make the different-ordered ballots a different colour. Such that they can be organised by ordering, and each counter only counts a specific ordering.OblitusSumMe said:
Would you do this so that each ballot paper could have a different order, or so that there was one order that was determined randomly that was replicated over all the ballot papers in each constituency?RobD said:Ballot order should be randomised to stop this kind of shenanigan.
The former is better from the point of view of ensuring that ballot order does not influence the result, but it makes it a lot harder for the ballot papers to be counted.
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Although not relevant to London, I have a feeling that the Greens may do well in some rural areas with their anti-fracking stance. They're using the description "Green Party: Stop Fracking Now" on the ballot papers (in some areas at least).Sean_F said:
Polling tends to underestimate support for the Greens.SandyRentool said:Big decline for the Green Party on last time. They'll be well miffed if they lose their London seat, but at least it will be turning Red not Blue.
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Which would boost Nige more - being hit by an egg or not being hit by an egg - or even if there being no eggs ?isam said:Beardy weirdy that did it I see.. that'll be more votes in the UKIP hod from normal people
Nige should've done a Prescott and banged him out!
All three would see PM Nige nailed on ?
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Now, now. Don't egg him on.TGOHF said:
Which would boost Nige more - being hit by an egg or not being hit by an egg - or even if there being no eggs ?isam said:Beardy weirdy that did it I see.. that'll be more votes in the UKIP hod from normal people
Nige should've done a Prescott and banged him out!
All three would see PM Nige nailed on ?
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I see it was an opportunist egging, the guy had to go to Tesco to buy the eggs first.
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I think it will help here and there. But, in this round of elections, London offers the best chance of a big vote.Richard_Nabavi said:
Although not relevant to London, I have a feeling that the Greens may do well in some rural areas with their anti-fracking stance. They're using the description "Green Party: Stop Fracking Now" on the ballot papers (in some areas at least).Sean_F said:
Polling tends to underestimate support for the Greens.SandyRentool said:Big decline for the Green Party on last time. They'll be well miffed if they lose their London seat, but at least it will be turning Red not Blue.
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The trouble with thumping an egg throwing beardy-wierdy is you never know if they’re the Arch Bishop of Canterbury or not..!0
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Do you have to crack such oeuf-ful yolks?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Being hit the biggest boostTGOHF said:
Which would boost Nige more - being hit by an egg or not being hit by an egg - or even if there being no eggs ?isam said:Beardy weirdy that did it I see.. that'll be more votes in the UKIP hod from normal people
Nige should've done a Prescott and banged him out!
All three would see PM Nige nailed on ?
If he had banged the idiot out the boost would be even bigger, so a bit disappointing
Sorry to be pro UKIP, all I did was predict they would do well in the polls etc.. and they have.
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The Conservative dream of the return to "Victorian values" becoming a reality?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-27242443
Dunno why they would offer him a Nobel prize though....I have been saying the same for years!0 -
Footage of the egging.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygzxl7EjJ7o0 -
Best prices - Newark by-election
Con 4/7 (Lad, PP)
Lab 3/1 (Lad, PP)
UKIP 7/2 (Lad)
LD 200/1 (PP)0 -
That's the thing about Ed (and perhaps Socialism in general) all his proposals sound good until you have the misfortune of actually living through them.Pulpstar said:Can see the Milibandwagon's rent proposals going down very well in London no matter if they are any good or not.
Fortunately we have some experience of socialism in the 1970's and it was complete and total disaster, but given how long ago it was, those that can remember have had their memories dulled with time and of course many millions now have know memory of the three day week, power cut's, winter of discontent, etc...
We know that everything in life is circular and I do get the feeling Brit's are ready to go back to a proper socialist government. What will be interesting (assuming they get their wish) is how long it takes them to get fed up with it.
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Whilst not disagreeing with your sentiment - I think you mean the previous Archbish rather than the current.SimonStClare said:The trouble with thumping an egg throwing beardy-wierdy is you never know if they’re the Arch Bishop of Canterbury or not..!
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That's cheating - its more like the assailant hit Farage holding an egg......where's the sport in that?TheScreamingEagles said:Footage of the egging.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygzxl7EjJ7o
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This poll inclines me to vote Green, so that both the Greens and the Lib Dems have a chance of getting a seat.0
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I was only 10 or so when they happened but I am pretty sure that the three day week and the power cuts occurred during the time of the Heath government. The strikes you may be referring to that took place throughout the 70s were less about socialism and much more about earning higher salaries and maintaining differentials, neither of which was particularly socialist. And those doing the striking were almost all members of the white working class that so many Tories and UKIPers like to say that Labour has abandoned.GIN1138 said:
That's the thing about Ed (and perhaps Socialism in general) all his proposals sound good until you have the misfortune of actually living through them.Pulpstar said:Can see the Milibandwagon's rent proposals going down very well in London no matter if they are any good or not.
Fortunately we have some experience of socialism in the 1970's and it was complete and total disaster, but given how long ago it was, those that can remember have had their memories dulled with time and of course many millions now have know memory of the three day week, power cut's, winter of discontent, etc...
We know that everything in life is circular and I do get the feeling Brit's are ready to go back to a proper socialist government. What will be interesting (assuming they get their wish) is how long it takes them to get fed up with it.
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Can someone who has watched the video tell me whether Nigel Farage was hit by an immigrant egg or by a British egg?0
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William Hill odds on Labour getting most votes in London at the euros -11/10 second fav!!
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Heath was a socialist.SouthamObserver said:
I was only 10 or so when they happened but I am pretty sure that the three day week and the power cuts occurred during the time of the Heath government. The strikes you may be referring to that took place throughout the 70s were less about socialism and much more about earning higher salaries and maintaining differentials, neither of which was particularly socialist. And those doing the striking were almost all members of the white working class that so many Tories and UKIPers like to say that Labour has abandoned.GIN1138 said:
That's the thing about Ed (and perhaps Socialism in general) all his proposals sound good until you have the misfortune of actually living through them.Pulpstar said:Can see the Milibandwagon's rent proposals going down very well in London no matter if they are any good or not.
Fortunately we have some experience of socialism in the 1970's and it was complete and total disaster, but given how long ago it was, those that can remember have had their memories dulled with time and of course many millions now have know memory of the three day week, power cut's, winter of discontent, etc...
We know that everything in life is circular and I do get the feeling Brit's are ready to go back to a proper socialist government. What will be interesting (assuming they get their wish) is how long it takes them to get fed up with it.
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You have to feel for the egg,it's last moments splattered on Farage's face but I guess only eggs will know if it was worth it.0
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Socialism always sounds good, but the problem is that it has never succeeded anywhere, ever.Those who declare that capitalism has failed tend to skirt over the far greater and more catastrophic failures of socialism wherever it has been tried.
Picketty's remedies are just old wine in new bottles.0 -
I'm being 'refferred to the trader, just stuck the rest of my open balance on it...state_go_away said:William Hill odds on Labour getting most votes in London at the euros -11/10 second fav!!
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Good spot! Pity my account is limited to tuppence ha'penny.state_go_away said:William Hill odds on Labour getting most votes in London at the euros -11/10 second fav!!
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is that your admirable prudence in limiting the bet or William Hills ?Pulpstar said:Single
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Going to head to the Hills shop after work see if I can get any more on, provided it is > 1/2 the price is crackers.state_go_away said:William Hill odds on Labour getting most votes in London at the euros -11/10 second fav!!
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Tried to stick £40 on, Hills are the chickens.state_go_away said:
is that your admirable prudence in limiting the bet or William Hills ?Pulpstar said:Single
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Labour @ 11/10
Stake : £9.09
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No, he wasn't.Sean_F said:
Heath was a socialist.SouthamObserver said:
I was only 10 or so when they happened but I am pretty sure that the three day week and the power cuts occurred during the time of the Heath government. The strikes you may be referring to that took place throughout the 70s were less about socialism and much more about earning higher salaries and maintaining differentials, neither of which was particularly socialist. And those doing the striking were almost all members of the white working class that so many Tories and UKIPers like to say that Labour has abandoned.GIN1138 said:
That's the thing about Ed (and perhaps Socialism in general) all his proposals sound good until you have the misfortune of actually living through them.Pulpstar said:Can see the Milibandwagon's rent proposals going down very well in London no matter if they are any good or not.
Fortunately we have some experience of socialism in the 1970's and it was complete and total disaster, but given how long ago it was, those that can remember have had their memories dulled with time and of course many millions now have know memory of the three day week, power cut's, winter of discontent, etc...
We know that everything in life is circular and I do get the feeling Brit's are ready to go back to a proper socialist government. What will be interesting (assuming they get their wish) is how long it takes them to get fed up with it.
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How much do they let you stick on in a shop before they need to call HQ ?0
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Yes, he U-turned in the face of union led opposition to a democratically elected government implementing the mandate that the British people had given them, but the Selsdon Park policy document was a forerunner of a lot of what Thatcher subsequently didSean_F said:
Heath was a socialist.SouthamObserver said:
I was only 10 or so when they happened but I am pretty sure that the three day week and the power cuts occurred during the time of the Heath government. The strikes you may be referring to that took place throughout the 70s were less about socialism and much more about earning higher salaries and maintaining differentials, neither of which was particularly socialist. And those doing the striking were almost all members of the white working class that so many Tories and UKIPers like to say that Labour has abandoned.GIN1138 said:
That's the thing about Ed (and perhaps Socialism in general) all his proposals sound good until you have the misfortune of actually living through them.Pulpstar said:Can see the Milibandwagon's rent proposals going down very well in London no matter if they are any good or not.
Fortunately we have some experience of socialism in the 1970's and it was complete and total disaster, but given how long ago it was, those that can remember have had their memories dulled with time and of course many millions now have know memory of the three day week, power cut's, winter of discontent, etc...
We know that everything in life is circular and I do get the feeling Brit's are ready to go back to a proper socialist government. What will be interesting (assuming they get their wish) is how long it takes them to get fed up with it.
Heath was weak and ineffective (and his opponents strong and prepared to push the limits of what should be acceptable in a democratic society) but he wasn't a socialist0 -
What you have all been waiting for,a comparative article on housing policy in Venezuela,showing how successful it was in boosting the economy and reducing poverty.
http://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2013/jun/06/public-investment-housing-venezuela0 -
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Not the best simile.taffys said:Socialism always sounds good, but the problem is that it has never succeeded anywhere, ever.Those who declare that capitalism has failed tend to skirt over the far greater and more catastrophic failures of socialism wherever it has been tried.
Picketty's remedies are just old wine in new bottles.
Wine usually improves with age...0 -
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Yes, but only because it seemed the least bad option. (I am of a generation who see voting as an obligation)0 -
Got £30 online!! (on labour that is)Pulpstar said:@state_go_away
Conservatives 19/20
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Socialism is utopian fantasy. That's why any attempt to introduce it is doomed to fail. And anyone seeking to impose it is immediately destroying any hope that it might work. Capitalism at least has the merit of being based on reality.taffys said:Socialism always sounds good, but the problem is that it has never succeeded anywhere, ever.Those who declare that capitalism has failed tend to skirt over the far greater and more catastrophic failures of socialism wherever it has been tried.
Picketty's remedies are just old wine in new bottles.
Picketty's work is based on an absolute acceptance of capitalism and has nothing to do with socialism whatsoever. In my book, he is spot on to focus on the growing differential between a super elite of wealthy people and corporations and the rest. It's just not sustainable.
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The 3 day week - happy days! Well, not quite, but my dad did play his part in bringing down a Tory government.0
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It's entirely sustainable in an era of world economic growth. Whether it's desirable is a separate question. The standard bien pensant answer is no.SouthamObserver said:
Socialism is utopian fantasy. That's why any attempt to introduce it is doomed to fail. And anyone seeking to impose it is immediately destroying any hope that it might work. Capitalism at least has the merit of being based on reality.taffys said:Socialism always sounds good, but the problem is that it has never succeeded anywhere, ever.Those who declare that capitalism has failed tend to skirt over the far greater and more catastrophic failures of socialism wherever it has been tried.
Picketty's remedies are just old wine in new bottles.
Picketty's work is based on an absolute acceptance of capitalism and has nothing to do with socialism whatsoever. In my book, he is spot on to focus on the growing differential between a super elite of wealthy people and corporations and the rest. It's just not sustainable.
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The thing is, it wasn't just Heath: it was the entire political establishment and civil service which had given up. By the time Heath came to be PM, it was actually too late; the intimidation by the unions and the attendant blackmail on wages and on subsidies to duff nationalised industries (themselves very badly run) seemed a completely intractable problem. The time when this could have been addressed without the turmoil of the Thatcher years was much earlier, in Wilson's first government.Charles said:Heath was weak and ineffective (and his opponents strong and prepared to push the limits of what should be acceptable in a democratic society) but he wasn't a socialist
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ExxonMobil have published their Global Energy Outlook to 2040.
There are some interesting charts on supply and demand, and CO2 production where Asia is romping away.
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And a Labour one no doubt.SandyRentool said:The 3 day week - happy days! Well, not quite, but my dad did play his part in bringing down a Tory government.
Still, it led to Maggie, so he can be proud.
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Oxford Migration Observatory finds there are 1.6 million more EU migrants in the UK than Britons living in other EU countries.0 -
Barrister Constance Briscoe guilty of lying to police probing ex-UK minister Chris Huhne's speeding points case
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27244889
Briscoe found guilty. LIAMT said something big would come out of the case, is this it?0 -
All the more important to make sure the police themselves don't lie . Mitchell case etcdr_spyn said:Barrister Constance Briscoe guilty of lying to police probing ex-UK minister Chris Huhne's speeding points case
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Mr Nabavi - I don't seem to recall the NUM being on strike in the Winter of Discontent, so no.0
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Thought that was the opposite of socialism ,if I understand socialism to be state control of thingsSmarmeron said:@SouthamObserver
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Which Wilson bottled. 'In Place of Strife' became 'Managed Decline' - and it took Thatcher (who could work out the horrors of compounded annual relative decline) to say 'Enough!'Richard_Nabavi said:
The time when this could have been addressed without the turmoil of the Thatcher years was much earlier, in Wilson's first government.Charles said:Heath was weak and ineffective (and his opponents strong and prepared to push the limits of what should be acceptable in a democratic society) but he wasn't a socialist
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Oh no - we've imported hard working dentists, doctors and builders and exported blonde drug smuggling barmaids and pensioners !isam said:Martin Bentham @martinbentham 3m
Oxford Migration Observatory finds there are 1.6 million more EU migrants in the UK than Britons living in other EU countries.
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No, The idea of socialism is that co-operation is better than conflict. Most religions espouse it.
Unfortunately mankind is to busy grabbing what it can to understand.
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Good selling point on bonobos......they have more sex than chimps0
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Wouldn't knowTGOHF said:
Oh no - we've imported hard working dentists, doctors and builders and exported blonde drug smuggling barmaids and pensioners !isam said:Martin Bentham @martinbentham 3m
Oxford Migration Observatory finds there are 1.6 million more EU migrants in the UK than Britons living in other EU countries.
It's not like the good old days I tells ya.
Rather an extreme position to bracket together all immigrants as good/all Brits as bad.. not very broad minded but there you go
Normally a left wing position to take, but just goes to show UKIP is uniting the old regime!
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A tragic waste of a fine career - and all because a barrister lied for a friend, who lied for her husband, who lied for his political career.dr_spyn said:Barrister Constance Briscoe guilty of lying to police probing ex-UK minister Chris Huhne's speeding points case
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CourtNewsUK @CourtNewsUK 4m
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He was PM - he gets the blame. Thacher demonstrated that, with carefully planning and cautious steps, the problem wasn't intractableRichard_Nabavi said:
The thing is, it wasn't just Heath: it was the entire political establishment and civil service which had given up. By the time Heath came to be PM, it was actually too late; the intimidation by the unions and the attendant blackmail on wages and on subsidies to duff nationalised industries (themselves very badly run) seemed a completely intractable problem. The time when this could have been addressed without the turmoil of the Thatcher years was much earlier, in Wilson's first government.Charles said:Heath was weak and ineffective (and his opponents strong and prepared to push the limits of what should be acceptable in a democratic society) but he wasn't a socialist
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a 'compulsive and self-publicising fantasist’
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Glass houses, pots, kettles, and takes one to know one are all springing in my mind.0
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It was bloody intractable. Don't underestimate the Thatcher miracle; very, very few people at the time believed it to be possible.Charles said:He was PM - he gets the blame. Thacher demonstrated that, with carefully planning and cautious steps, the problem wasn't intractable
And yes, of course Heath gets some of the blame; he was weak and made misjudgements, but he did try to do something about it, as Wilson had before him. What you have to understand, though, is that they didn't have the public's support for the battle; we hadn't, as a country, finally confronted the reality. The entire public mood, and the establishment view, was that we should fudge and hope for the best, that nothing more could be done.
Maggie was able to rescue the country through a mixture of four things, which came together at the same time: her own strength of purpose and moral clarity, the fact that the public had finally, by 1979, got so sick and tired of the wreckers that they were receptive to taking them on, the luck that the Falklands War boosted her position at just the right time, and the fact that she had some really good support from Tebbutt, Keith Joseph and a handful of others.
It was still a close-run thing: there was nothing inevitable about her success, and I don't think it could have been achieved in the period before her premiership, given that the In Place of Strife opportunity had been thrown away.
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Sky has a rogues gallery of egged politicians – I’d forgotten how many there were.
http://news.sky.com/story/1253232/nigel-farage-hit-by-egg-on-campaign-trail
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You know, I think that comment reflects worse on Chris Huhne than it does on Briscoe. He might be right, but sometimes it's better to be silent and reflect on the errors of ones ways.dr_spyn said:CourtNewsUK @CourtNewsUK 4m
Briscoe a 'compulsive and self-publicising fantasist’ says Chris Huhne. Right back at ya
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Try a betting shop, Pulpy.Pulpstar said:@State_go_away Managed to get another £50 on now
, my Dad had £20 for himself too
Just got 100 on at 11/10 in my High Street. Had to wait five minutes while they contacted Head Office for somebody who knew they were offering such a bet, but it was worth it.
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