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  • Y0kel said:

    A lot of his own party want the old blowhard to step down.
    Who would take over? Mary Lou McDonald?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    I imagine - and hope - that you're being sarcastic.

    I mean, you don't actually think that the way to encourage housebuilding companies to take a risk, buy land, and try to get planning permission, is to fine them if it doesn't work out quite as quickly as they had hoped, do you?
    Just pointing out labour policy ;-)
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822

    Just pointing out labour policy ;-)
    Phew!
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Jen Copestake @jencopestake

    Reports the 230 schoolgirls abducted in #Nigeria are being sold as brides to Boko Haram militants - via @AP @bbchausa http://apne.ws/1meJ2vP

    Bloody hell.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited April 2014
    The wisdom of Demetri Marchessini:

    http://www.channel4.com/news/ukip-donor-donations-demetri-marchessini-views-politics

    "Marchessini once published a book, Women in Trousers: a Rear View. The book included photographs of women in the street wearing trousers, taken from behind. The aim, Mr Marchessini said, was to show how unflattering women looked in trousers."
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited April 2014

    Actually, what I said above is slightly wrong. I am surprised, but only because I was expecting Ed to produce this particular piece of utter lunacy at the Labour Conference in September, not now.

    This is extremely worrying - what on earth is he going to come out with then? It's genuinely hard to think of anything more damaging he could go for, but he's bound to want to pull another big turkey out of the hat.

    Substantial penalties for second home ownership, property taxes, minimum wage increases and requirements for all businesses regardless of size, to take on apprentices and trainees. Price controls. Maximum salary caps.
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307

    Who would take over? Mary Lou McDonald?
    Its long be considered logical to have a southerner at the top of the tree if not in de-facto charge.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    Substantial penalties for second home ownership, property taxes, minimum wage increases and requirements for all businesses regardless of size, to take on apprentices and trainees. Price controls. Maximum salary caps.
    I'll add Employee share ownership schemes, 'People Directors' on Company Boards, and City transaction taxes.
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    Ishmael_X said:

    Quite so, but the point I was answering was that "The relatively affluent would gain at the expense of the needy" which assumes that renters can never turn into owners.

    In fact this proposal would almost certainly crash the housing market. Perhaps that is the plan.
    Ironically, that would finally be something which truly helps first-time buyers.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400
    I wonder of Gerry Adams will consider just outing himself with the truth?

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,084
    Its this whole 'rent to rent' thing that is boggling my mind right now....

    I thought that sort of stuff was disallowed under most tenancy agreements !
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "This is Demetri Marchessini’s website. If the truth disturbs you, read no further."

    http://marchessini.co.uk/
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    Omnium said:

    I wonder of Gerry Adams will consider just outing himself with the truth?

    Gerry and reality parted ways a fair bit back.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    lolz cerise putting some cats among some pigeons on renting. whatever the effect of this it won't stop BTL people letting out cos they're mostly leveraged to the eyeballs to get as many properties as possible.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,716

    It's an Oh dear Ed is going to have a horrible press conference tomorrow because he has not thought this through. Once again, he has identified a very real problem and come up with a not very good solution.

    That's not a problem politically. As we saw with the energy price pander, floating voters aren't typically the sharpest knives in the draw and have no way to tell the difference between a very good solution and a not very good solution.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,236
    edited May 2014

    Let us have a look at Bushell's case in the English reports, at 89 ER 2. At p. 5, note (h):
    '[I]t is now settled, that (with the exception of the proceeding in attaints) jurors are in no way questionable for their finding either by summary process, indictment, or action.
    At footnote (g), doubt is expressed by the reporter as to whether attaint still lay in criminal matters. Hale asserted that it did, albeit Hawkins among others disagreed. Bushell's case did not concern writs of attaint against a jury, but whether the judge had a right to fine the trial jury for returning a verdict contrary to the evidence and direction of the court. All that was decided was that immunity belonged to decisions of a judicial character, and that the return of a verdict was a decision of that character. As for the suggestion of Chief Justice Vaughan that no jury could be punished for a perverse verdict 'because the jury may know that of their own knowledge, which might guide them to give their verdict contrary to the sense of the Court' (Ibid, p. 5), the reporter rightly observers at footnote (h) that 'the doctrine is now treated as exploded'. If a juror has private knowledge of the case, he should be sworn as a witness.

    Bushell's case certainly does not establish that a jury has a right to return a verdict contrary to the evidence or direction of the court. There is no such authority for that heretical proposition.

    Sorry LIAMT but clearly the incumbent Attorney General and the House of Lords do not agree with you.

    "As recently as 2005 the House of Lords confirmed in the case of R v Wang ([2005] 1 W.L.R. 661) that there are no circumstances in which a judge is entitled to direct a jury to return a verdict of guilty."

    https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/in-defence-of-the-jury-trial
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113


    Labours got the answer to that - use or lose policy.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25396103
    And we spent days explaining why that policy was, to say the least, terrible.
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    Farage stood in the Buckingham constituency against the Speaker at the last General Election.

    Despite the constituency being stronly Conservative, Farage was easily beaten into second place by an independent who was little known and not local, although he put out a lot of election material.
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