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One of the reasons why Sanders has soared in the polling in recent weeks has been that his main opponent on the progressive wing, Elizabeth Warren, has been falling like a lead balloon. This followed her less than convincing performances in Iowa and New Hampshire.
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First like Sanders0
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Second like any socialist.0
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Edit/ oops. Third like Eadric, again.0 -
I'm reading Skygods: The Fall of PanAm, and it's really rather good. Recommended to all PBers who want something a little bit different1
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Why don’t we tax our citizens (subjects) wherever they live?0
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FPT:
What makes you think that the more voters see of Biden etc? His polling was stable for months as scrutiny and media coverage happened until he underperformed in Iowa.rcs1000 said:
Really?Quincel said:
There have been two states voting so far, both demographically weak for him. It's not been encouraging, but writing him off this early is nuts. We shouldn't extrapolate too confidently from small samples.MikeSmithson said:
Biden is crap and his campaign is just a vanity trip. All he has is name recognition and his fundraising has been very poor. When tested against real election results he does far worse than his polling.Quincel said:
Must admit I think the market has picked the wrong possible replacement for Bloomberg. If Bloomberg was hurt last night then Biden is best placed to come 2nd a Super Tuesday. He was even pretty good at the debate, too.Sandpit said:Bloomberg now out to 6.2, Buttigeig in to 8.
They were 5 and 11 this morning.
Keep in mind that if the 4 early states were reversed (i.e. going SC/NV/NH/IA) then Biden would probably be cruising at the top with his rivals hoping to catch up before Super Tuesday. He's not on course to win right now, but he hasn't run a particularly poor campaign.
The more voters see of Biden, the less impressed they were with him. Why would South Carolina be different?
Also, even if Biden had underperformed his polls in a hypothetical first-in-the-nation SC then he'd still have won it comfortably given his ~20% leads there pre-Iowa. That would have given him a boost just like Sanders winning NH by a slim margin given the demographics gave him a sizeable national boost.0 -
We tax foreign nationals on their income in the UK and we don't fancy picking and choosing our taxation principles when it suits.IanB2 said:Why don’t we tax our citizens (subjects) wherever they live?
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I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.0 -
Elizabeth Warren seems to have got most of the attention last night, and justly so - she obviously had three shredded wheat before the debate last night. Will it translate into support? Not sure.0
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The US doesn’t tax foreign nationals working in the States?TheWhiteRabbit said:
We tax foreign nationals on their income in the UK and we don't fancy picking and choosing our taxation principles when it suits.IanB2 said:Why don’t we tax our citizens (subjects) wherever they live?
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I really have no knowledge of US politics but surely the US are not going to re-elect Trump, God forbidTheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.
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History suggests Trump will win re-election this November.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really have no knowledge of US politics but surely the US are not going to re-elect Trump, God forbidTheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.
Who do you think the next President will be
So the next President might well be Mike Pence in 2025.0 -
Scotland Yard says the stabbing in the London Mosque is not considered terrorist related0
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I put a smidge on Biden this morning at 12.5 as he was my only larger red position and hated myself for it.TheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.0 -
Warren's attacks on Bloomberg will play well with the left of the party, but she's still fishing in the same pool as Sanders. Improvement in her results just secures a contested convention.0
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Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race in any realistic sense for long, so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.2 -
+1Richard_Nabavi said:Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race for in any realistic sense for long., so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.0 -
FPT:
Polls are not infallible oracles, but they are better than evidence-free assertions.Philip_Thompson said:
Polls are not infallible oracles. Sanders will lose and lose heavily in a full Presidential election.Fishing said:
Some polls have Sanders as the most popular Democrat and beating Trump. He could be worth a shot in case Trump screws up disastrously or dies or something and none of the other candidates are exactly brilliant.Philip_Thompson said:
It is if the Democrats choose a socialist.
No Teflon Bullshitters (TBs, or Tony Blairs) in sight.
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I can’t see Steyer sticking around.Richard_Nabavi said:Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race in any realistic sense for long, so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.0 -
Sanders might just carry his home state.Fishing said:FPT:
Polls are not infallible oracles, but they are better than evidence-free assertions.Philip_Thompson said:
Polls are not infallible oracles. Sanders will lose and lose heavily in a full Presidential election.Fishing said:
Some polls have Sanders as the most popular Democrat and beating Trump. He could be worth a shot in case Trump screws up disastrously or dies or something and none of the other candidates are exactly brilliant.Philip_Thompson said:
It is if the Democrats choose a socialist.
No Teflon Bullshitters (TBs, or Tony Blairs) in sight.0 -
Bernie Sanders' price looks way too short to me. He has to win by knock-out blow as you describe and while that is certainly possible, it doesn't look an 11/10 shot or anything like. It looks less likely if Elizabeth Warren siphons off some of his support.Richard_Nabavi said:Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race for in any realistic sense for long., so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.
Anyway, I've followed up my lay of Michael Bloomberg yesterday with a further lay of Bernie Sanders today. So I'm deep red on the two favourites. Let no one say I play it safe!4 -
True but it takes zero effort to just respout whatever the polls currently claim.Fishing said:FPT:
Polls are not infallible oracles, but they are better than evidence-free assertions.Philip_Thompson said:
Polls are not infallible oracles. Sanders will lose and lose heavily in a full Presidential election.Fishing said:
Some polls have Sanders as the most popular Democrat and beating Trump. He could be worth a shot in case Trump screws up disastrously or dies or something and none of the other candidates are exactly brilliant.Philip_Thompson said:
It is if the Democrats choose a socialist.
No Teflon Bullshitters (TBs, or Tony Blairs) in sight.
Making a real prediction entails saying what you believe and being prepared to back it up with a reason, not just parroting what an opinion poll says today.0 -
Plus, Trump was not wrong. It's not as easy as some think it is. Despite everyone's views on him, he (Trump) managed to become President of the United States and that is not something that just happens. I can't see him being beaten by any of the Dems candidates.Richard_Nabavi said:Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race in any realistic sense for long, so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.0 -
Thank you but not sure that is a good outcomeTheScreamingEagles said:
History suggests Trump will win re-election this November.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really have no knowledge of US politics but surely the US are not going to re-elect Trump, God forbidTheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.
Who do you think the next President will be
So the next President might well be Mike Pence in 2025.0 -
The Scottish Tory leader, Jackson Carlaw, plans to lobby Boris Johnson over complaints that Home Office plans for a points-based immigration system could damage Scotland’s economy.
In his first public statement on Priti Patel’s plans, Carlaw told reporters at Holyrood he has been pressurising the home secretary to relax many of the obstacles to low-skilled, low-waged migrants she plans to introduce.
Carlaw described Patel’s proposals as a “work in progress”, implying they broke the Scottish party’s manifesto pledges in December’s general election to introduce a system which worked for Scotland, particularly in remote areas suffering depopulation.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/20/scottish-tories-urge-rethink-over-points-based-immigration?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
They really need a rule to bar non party members standing for selection. That would change the race.Richard_Nabavi said:Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race in any realistic sense for long, so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.0 -
I see the disgraced national security risk has been accused of bullying as well.
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If Scotland wants a different policy maybe they should become independent then they can control their own policy.TheScreamingEagles said:The Scottish Tory leader, Jackson Carlaw, plans to lobby Boris Johnson over complaints that Home Office plans for a points-based immigration system could damage Scotland’s economy.
In his first public statement on Priti Patel’s plans, Carlaw told reporters at Holyrood he has been pressurising the home secretary to relax many of the obstacles to low-skilled, low-waged migrants she plans to introduce.
Carlaw described Patel’s proposals as a “work in progress”, implying they broke the Scottish party’s manifesto pledges in December’s general election to introduce a system which worked for Scotland, particularly in remote areas suffering depopulation.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/20/scottish-tories-urge-rethink-over-points-based-immigration?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Bullyin' surely?TheScreamingEagles said:I see the disgraced national security risk has been accused of bullying as well.
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What happens when you put people in positions of responsibility that should never have them in the first place. The Once-Disgraced Home Secretary Priti Patel showing her true self:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/home-secretary-priti-patel-is-accused-of-bullying-and-creating-atmosphere-of-fear-in-her-department-amid-claims-she-attempted-to-oust-her-most-senior-civil-servant/ar-BB10bvRv?ocid=spartanntp0 -
I'm struggling to picture these would-be immigrants chafing at the bit to be allowed to settle in remote depopulated areas of Scotland.TheScreamingEagles said:The Scottish Tory leader, Jackson Carlaw, plans to lobby Boris Johnson over complaints that Home Office plans for a points-based immigration system could damage Scotland’s economy.
In his first public statement on Priti Patel’s plans, Carlaw told reporters at Holyrood he has been pressurising the home secretary to relax many of the obstacles to low-skilled, low-waged migrants she plans to introduce.
Carlaw described Patel’s proposals as a “work in progress”, implying they broke the Scottish party’s manifesto pledges in December’s general election to introduce a system which worked for Scotland, particularly in remote areas suffering depopulation.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/20/scottish-tories-urge-rethink-over-points-based-immigration?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other1 -
Neither is Brexit but vox populi, vox Dei.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you but not sure that is a good outcomeTheScreamingEagles said:
History suggests Trump will win re-election this November.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really have no knowledge of US politics but surely the US are not going to re-elect Trump, God forbidTheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.
Who do you think the next President will be
So the next President might well be Mike Pence in 2025.1 -
Ahh you beat me to it!TheScreamingEagles said:I see the disgraced national security risk has been accused of bullying as well.
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Surely, when Trump comes out against ‘no deal’, you’ll be cheering him on big time?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really have no knowledge of US politics but surely the US are not going to re-elect Trump, God forbidTheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.
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No t at all. Jackson Carlaw is making sensible representation and no doubt, will be mirrored by some conservative mps south of the borderPhilip_Thompson said:
If Scotland wants a different policy maybe they should become independent then they can control their own policy.TheScreamingEagles said:The Scottish Tory leader, Jackson Carlaw, plans to lobby Boris Johnson over complaints that Home Office plans for a points-based immigration system could damage Scotland’s economy.
In his first public statement on Priti Patel’s plans, Carlaw told reporters at Holyrood he has been pressurising the home secretary to relax many of the obstacles to low-skilled, low-waged migrants she plans to introduce.
Carlaw described Patel’s proposals as a “work in progress”, implying they broke the Scottish party’s manifesto pledges in December’s general election to introduce a system which worked for Scotland, particularly in remote areas suffering depopulation.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/20/scottish-tories-urge-rethink-over-points-based-immigration?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
I’m sure there’s a gag to be made about moving refugees from Syria to Glasgow but we’re both better than that.Richard_Nabavi said:
I'm struggling to picture these would-be immigrants chafing at the bit to be allowed to settle in remote depopulated areas of Scotland.TheScreamingEagles said:The Scottish Tory leader, Jackson Carlaw, plans to lobby Boris Johnson over complaints that Home Office plans for a points-based immigration system could damage Scotland’s economy.
In his first public statement on Priti Patel’s plans, Carlaw told reporters at Holyrood he has been pressurising the home secretary to relax many of the obstacles to low-skilled, low-waged migrants she plans to introduce.
Carlaw described Patel’s proposals as a “work in progress”, implying they broke the Scottish party’s manifesto pledges in December’s general election to introduce a system which worked for Scotland, particularly in remote areas suffering depopulation.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/20/scottish-tories-urge-rethink-over-points-based-immigration?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Pakistan Super League has started... one of the nice things about watching the coverage on the Asian channels is the localised adverts ,like being in a cinema in the 80s. There is a apparently a chicken outlet called "Pepes" and they shout out a different town each time the ad is played, and tell you the address. So far, Burnley, Leicester, & Cheltenham0
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I haven't yet seen the same outpourings of concern from our resident Leavers about this accusation as was shown about the allegations about John Bercow. I'm worried, lest the pent-up outrage about such appalling treatment should cause them to pop blood vessels. Because it couldn't possibly have been wholly synthetic horror for base partisan reasons, could it?TheScreamingEagles said:I see the disgraced national security risk has been accused of bullying as well.
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Labour members are still too stupid to listen to the man that actually won them power.rottenborough said:Seems a bit optimistic to me:
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I can see Bloomberg's Buble bursting, but I can not see who will gain from it yet.
Why would Warren gain at the expense of Sanders when she went after Bloomberg?
Why would Buttigieg gain after his nasty fights with Klobuchar?
Biden could be the one but confidence in his candidacy has been badly shaken for months now.
Right now Bloomberg's articifial vote share could be redistributed to many different candidates.0 -
Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
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Bercow's allegations were made years ago, investigations were postponed for years until he retired then all that was said was that the allegations should now be investigated before a peerage is bestowed.AlastairMeeks said:
I haven't yet seen the same outpourings of concern from our resident Leavers about this accusation as was shown about the allegations about John Bercow. I'm worried, lest the pent-up outrage about such appalling treatment should cause them to pop blood vessels. Because it couldn't possibly have been wholly synthetic horror for base partisan reasons, could it?TheScreamingEagles said:I see the disgraced national security risk has been accused of bullying as well.
https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/1230358232201334785?s=21
If you're suggesting we should let Patel get on with her job for a decade and then postpone any peerage she might get post-retirement until after a belated allegation then that's an interesting proposal.1 -
That’s exactly what I’ve done.AlastairMeeks said:
Bernie Sanders' price looks way too short to me. He has to win by knock-out blow as you describe and while that is certainly possible, it doesn't look an 11/10 shot or anything like. It looks less likely if Elizabeth Warren siphons off some of his support.Richard_Nabavi said:Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race for in any realistic sense for long., so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.
Anyway, I've followed up my lay of Michael Bloomberg yesterday with a further lay of Bernie Sanders today. So I'm deep red on the two favourites. Let no one say I play it safe!
(I did it several hours before this post in case anyone thinks I’m a copycat)0 -
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Isn't that @Dura_Ace?Theuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
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I've remained deeply red on Sanders through the whole thing. Losing hope a bit though that the Dems aren't that stupid as to hand Trump four more years and the destruction of the republic on a plate.Casino_Royale said:
That’s exactly what I’ve done.AlastairMeeks said:
Bernie Sanders' price looks way too short to me. He has to win by knock-out blow as you describe and while that is certainly possible, it doesn't look an 11/10 shot or anything like. It looks less likely if Elizabeth Warren siphons off some of his support.Richard_Nabavi said:Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race for in any realistic sense for long., so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.
Anyway, I've followed up my lay of Michael Bloomberg yesterday with a further lay of Bernie Sanders today. So I'm deep red on the two favourites. Let no one say I play it safe!
(I did it several hours before this post in case anyone thinks I’m a copycat)0 -
And Corbyn turning up in South Wales demanding Boris calls on cobrra and deals with the floods.Nigel_Foremain said:
Labour members are still too stupid to listen to the man that actually won them power.rottenborough said:Seems a bit optimistic to me:
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1230545347044368386
The numpty needs to understand the Welsh labour government are responsible here in Wales and it is his fellow Corbynista, Mark Drakeford's responsibilty.
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Well that's the case with a lot of political promises. I guess it depends on whether even if the voter is sceptical they like the intent behind the promise - I know someone who voted Labour, they say because the broadband policy, even though they said they did not really believe it would be workable. They felt iit showed a good priority, for them at least.NickPalmer said:
I don't know if that works. I'm naturally sympathetic, but it makes me think "With that sort of money at stake, he can hire some expensive lawyers to dodge it". I may well be too pessimistic, but I wonder if voters won't feel similar scepticism.Alistair said:0 -
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
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Union Jack has been a Marvel character since the 1970s.Theuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
(Well in three different guises.)0 -
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
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https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
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How many Labour PMs do retain positive feeling, out of interest? I assume Attlee at least.Nigel_Foremain said:
Labour members are still too stupid to listen to the man that actually won them power.rottenborough said:Seems a bit optimistic to me:
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/12305453470443683860 -
He was a shop steward at Longbridge in those days though.TheScreamingEagles said:
Union Jack has been a Marvel character since the 1970s.Theuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=200 -
Brilliant, so she's saying that if she becomes Deputy Leader there will be a further raft of defections by Labour MPs. I can see her point.rottenborough said:0 -
They should reflect on why the list of PMs is so small.kle4 said:
How many Labour PMs do retain positive feeling, out of interest? I assume Attlee at least.Nigel_Foremain said:
Labour members are still too stupid to listen to the man that actually won them power.rottenborough said:Seems a bit optimistic to me:
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/12305453470443683860 -
It's a bit like when there's terrorism involved and the victims are Muslims/perpetrators aren't Muslims isn't it?AlastairMeeks said:
I haven't yet seen the same outpourings of concern from our resident Leavers about this accusation as was shown about the allegations about John Bercow. I'm worried, lest the pent-up outrage about such appalling treatment should cause them to pop blood vessels. Because it couldn't possibly have been wholly synthetic horror for base partisan reasons, could it?TheScreamingEagles said:I see the disgraced national security risk has been accused of bullying as well.
https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/1230358232201334785?s=21
Tumbleweed is thy name.0 -
In case Trump wins you could have the following:TheScreamingEagles said:
History suggests Trump will win re-election this November.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really have no knowledge of US politics but surely the US are not going to re-elect Trump, God forbidTheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.
Who do you think the next President will be
So the next President might well be Mike Pence in 2025.
From the Republican side you can have Pence, DeSandis, some Senator or two, or one of the Trump kids.
From the Democratic side, Warren, Yang, Klobuchar, Kamala will definitely run again, Beto, Buttigieg, Biden, Bloomberg, Sanders won't.
Who knows about Booker.0 -
Haha I absolutely love those new comic characters!
Grammar is horrible though - hills echoes?-1 -
Labour will be drowning in pledges at this rate.Richard_Nabavi said:
Brilliant, so she's saying that if she becomes Deputy Leader there will be a further raft of defections by Labour MPs. I can see her point.rottenborough said:
It's all some kind of project to exert control by the Left.0 -
Nikki Haley is the next Republican president.speedy2 said:
In case Trump wins you could have the following:TheScreamingEagles said:
History suggests Trump will win re-election this November.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really have no knowledge of US politics but surely the US are not going to re-elect Trump, God forbidTheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.
Who do you think the next President will be
So the next President might well be Mike Pence in 2025.
From the Republican side you can have Pence, DeSandis, some Senator or two, or one of the Trump kids.
From the Democratic side, Warren, Yang, Klobuchar, Kamala will definitely run again, Beto, Buttigieg, Biden, Bloomberg, Sanders won't.
Who knows about Booker.0 -
Hush. It's only an accusation against PP and we know that PB Leavers are proverbially good at waiting for the outcome of any enquiry or investigation before they launch into their vitriolic ramblings.TheScreamingEagles said:
It's a bit like when there's terrorism involved and the victims are Muslims/perpetrators aren't Muslims isn't it?AlastairMeeks said:
I haven't yet seen the same outpourings of concern from our resident Leavers about this accusation as was shown about the allegations about John Bercow. I'm worried, lest the pent-up outrage about such appalling treatment should cause them to pop blood vessels. Because it couldn't possibly have been wholly synthetic horror for base partisan reasons, could it?TheScreamingEagles said:I see the disgraced national security risk has been accused of bullying as well.
https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/1230358232201334785?s=21
Tumbleweed is thy name.0 -
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
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As a PB Leaver, I am officially happy to declare that Priti Patel should not be given an automatic peerage upon leaving office, until all bullying allegations have been fully investigated.1
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Noted. I will pause however while you gather together an appropriate slew of insults against her of the type that were deployed against Bercow when those allegations emerged.Luckyguy1983 said:As a PB Leaver, I am officially happy to declare that Priti Patel should not be given an automatic peerage upon leaving office, until all bullying allegations have been fully investigated.
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Unlikely, she'll have to spend the entirety of the 2024 primaries/general election campaign denying she gave Donald Trump a blowjob.rottenborough said:
Nikki Haley is the next Republican president.speedy2 said:
In case Trump wins you could have the following:TheScreamingEagles said:
History suggests Trump will win re-election this November.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really have no knowledge of US politics but surely the US are not going to re-elect Trump, God forbidTheScreamingEagles said:I can’t believe I ever doubted my strategy in this market.
Biden and Sanders are rubbish.
Who do you think the next President will be
So the next President might well be Mike Pence in 2025.
From the Republican side you can have Pence, DeSandis, some Senator or two, or one of the Trump kids.
From the Democratic side, Warren, Yang, Klobuchar, Kamala will definitely run again, Beto, Buttigieg, Biden, Bloomberg, Sanders won't.
Who knows about Booker.0 -
Sure, though it could be worse!rottenborough said:
They should reflect on why the list of PMs is so small.kle4 said:
How many Labour PMs do retain positive feeling, out of interest? I assume Attlee at least.Nigel_Foremain said:
Labour members are still too stupid to listen to the man that actually won them power.rottenborough said:Seems a bit optimistic to me:
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/12305453470443683860 -
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229837360889835520?s=20kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
Union Jack is English!Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
BRITANNIA, surely!isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229837360889835520?s=20kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
2 British.Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=20
I was just going to point that out. I think they have made the rookie error of conflating Union Jack and England (or perhaps they really are being meta satirical).0 -
Sinn Fein will be happy with that last cartoon.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=203 -
Patel, though much derided for many past statements and beliefs, has far fewer rememberable instances of or a public persona focused on belittling people (deservedly or otherwise) which make it easy to believe accusations. That said I can easily believe she is a bully, but for general purposes there is less to go on for a casual observer than with Bercow (though she has other flaws which he does not have as compensation). I hope any bully gets suitable comeuppance and that if she is one that will be her fate, but lacking the lead in time of the Bercow stuff (in addition to the political angle against him and for her) it is not going to be an identical reaction and without a smoking gun will probably take more time to have any effect. After all, there was no effect on Bercow while in office, and its not certain there will be now.TOPPING said:
Noted. I will pause however while you gather together an appropriate slew of insults against her of the type that were deployed against Bercow when those allegations emerged.Luckyguy1983 said:As a PB Leaver, I am officially happy to declare that Priti Patel should not be given an automatic peerage upon leaving office, until all bullying allegations have been fully investigated.
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The Union Jack is British identity, not English. This is typical conflation of Britain and England in an attempt to erase English identity.isam said:
Union Jack is English!Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
I don't know how someone engaged in such a work could do that in error in this day and age - surely someone at the MarvelUK offices would know even if not everyone did?Theuniondivvie said:
2 British.Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=20
I was just going to point that out. I think they have made the rookie error of conflating Union Jack and England (or perhaps they really are being meta satirical).0 -
That's a very disturbing story about Patel. Perhaps it isn't true but one senses it almost certainly is.0
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Looks more like titania to me. Such is comics.Sunil_Prasannan said:
BRITANNIA, surely!isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229837360889835520?s=20kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
A family pack of Quality Street?isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229837360889835520?s=20kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=201 -
She seems to be the Emmanuel Goldstein of the month for Remain voters who aren't over it's 2 mins hate. "Why doesn't she get stick like Diane Abbott?" was last week, now it's Bercow.kle4 said:
Patel, though much derided for many past statements and beliefs, has far fewer rememberable instances of or a public persona focused on belittling people (deservedly or otherwise). I can easily believe she is a bully, but for general purposes there is less to go on for a casual observer than with Bercow (though she has other flaws which he does not have as compensation). I hope any bully gets suitable comeuppance and that if she is one that will be her fate, but lacking the lead in time of the Bercow stuff (in addition to the political angle against him and for her) it is not going to be an identical reaction and without a smoking gun will probably take more time to have any effect. After all, there was no effect on Bercow while in office, and its not certain there will be now.TOPPING said:
Noted. I will pause however while you gather together an appropriate slew of insults against her of the type that were deployed against Bercow when those allegations emerged.Luckyguy1983 said:As a PB Leaver, I am officially happy to declare that Priti Patel should not be given an automatic peerage upon leaving office, until all bullying allegations have been fully investigated.
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The captions are just golden. Why would she do that? Why did she bring them that? How are those shield eyes glowing?isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229837360889835520?s=20kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
Starman!TOPPING said:
A family pack of Quality Street?isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229837360889835520?s=20kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
I think the question is whether, if Sanders scoops up only 35% of the delegates, whether all the other Democratic delegates fold and rally round him in the unbound vote that follows, or whether they go for a compromise candidate.rottenborough said:
I've remained deeply red on Sanders through the whole thing. Losing hope a bit though that the Dems aren't that stupid as to hand Trump four more years and the destruction of the republic on a plate.Casino_Royale said:
That’s exactly what I’ve done.AlastairMeeks said:
Bernie Sanders' price looks way too short to me. He has to win by knock-out blow as you describe and while that is certainly possible, it doesn't look an 11/10 shot or anything like. It looks less likely if Elizabeth Warren siphons off some of his support.Richard_Nabavi said:Looks like there's going to be a hunk of Bloomberg support available for other candidates. Don't forget also that Tom Steyer has been polling well in some of the upcoming primaries - 15.7% in the RCP average for South Carolina, for example. Is that really going to happen? I'm sceptical, but even if it does, he's not going to be in the race for in any realistic sense for long., so that's a further chunk of support to be distributed elsewhere.
Looking further ahead, there is the significant probability of Sanders getting more delegates than anyone else but not a majority or a decisive plurality. That is likely to trigger horse-trading and perhaps bring the super-delegates into play. That would would be a very messy and bitter shambles, with Sanders supporters distinctly dischuffed if their man is 'robbed' of the nomination ('robbed' as in 'he lost according to the rules'). That would be great for Trump, of course.
What I think this means is that the Dem Nom contest is more open than it looks.
Anyway, I've followed up my lay of Michael Bloomberg yesterday with a further lay of Bernie Sanders today. So I'm deep red on the two favourites. Let no one say I play it safe!
(I did it several hours before this post in case anyone thinks I’m a copycat)
I think it really depends on the national polling face-ups with Trump. And that there’s consensus on who that compromise candidate could be.
I’m willing to speculate a liability of £500 on it at current odds. But there’s a good chance I lose because it might just be easier for the convention to say yes to Sanders in a very divided moderate field, and with national face ups not looking decisive either way.0 -
It says Ingerland in small letters under Union Jack.Theuniondivvie said:
2 British.Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
htts://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
htps://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
htps://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
htts://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=20
I was just going to point that out. I think they have made the rookie error of conflating Union Jack and England (or perhaps they really are being meta satirical).
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Perhaps the 'finding out which country he's really fighting for' involves UJ transforming to Cross George.kle4 said:
I don't know how someone engaged in such a work could do that in error in this day and age - surely someone at the MarvelUK offices would know even if not everyone did?Theuniondivvie said:
2 British.Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=20
I was just going to point that out. I think they have made the rookie error of conflating Union Jack and England (or perhaps they really are being meta satirical).
'Cross? I'm fcuking fuming!'2 -
Well I know that, but it says "England" under his name on the picture, so he is the English character I'd saybrokenwheel said:
The Union Jack is British identity, not English. This is typical conflation of Britain and England in an attempt to erase English identity.isam said:
Union Jack is English!Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
I honestly think you might be correct.Theuniondivvie said:
Perhaps the 'finding out which country he's really fighting for' involves UJ transforming to Cross George.kle4 said:
I don't know how someone engaged in such a work could do that in error in this day and age - surely someone at the MarvelUK offices would know even if not everyone did?Theuniondivvie said:
2 British.Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=20
I was just going to point that out. I think they have made the rookie error of conflating Union Jack and England (or perhaps they really are being meta satirical).
'Cross? I'm fcuking fuming!'0 -
Better for a US market then?Casino_Royale said:
Sinn Fein will be happy with that last cartoon.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=20
Edit: I hope they don't make any changes to these after what I am sure will be intense internet mockery, I haven't chuckled like this for ages.0 -
If Jason Statham plays him in the inevitable film they might have to rename the character Turkish. For proper, authentic Englishness.isam said:
Well I know that, but it says "England" under his name on the picture, so he is the English character I'd saybrokenwheel said:
The Union Jack is British identity, not English. This is typical conflation of Britain and England in an attempt to erase English identity.isam said:
Union Jack is English!Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=200 -
Speaking of superheroes, the novel coronavirus is saving the planet.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-19/virus-cuts-china-s-carbon-emissions-by-100-million-metric-tons
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I suspect the delegates will be reasonable on this because they won't act in a way which appears too unfair. If Sanders wins 40% of the delegates and 3 other candidates are on 15/20/25% each then he's a clear leader and I expect lots of briefing and intrigue but for him to ultimately win fairly easily. But if he leads 40% to 35% and a bunch of moderate candidates have the other delegates then it's just not as unreasonable to argue Sanders hasn't 'won' the race.Casino_Royale said:I think the question is whether, if Sanders scoops up only 35% of the delegates, whether all the other Democratic delegates fold and rally round him in the unbound vote that follows, or whether they go for a compromise candidate.
I think it really depends on the national polling face-ups with Trump. And that there’s consensus on who that compromise candidate could be.
I’m willing to speculate a liability of £500 on it at current odds. But there’s a good chance I lose because it might just be easier for the convention to say yes to Sanders in a very divided moderate field, and with national face ups not looking decisive either way.0 -
I've never liked Blair, but he is a good speaker and able to concisely set out his ideas well.williamglenn said:1 -
Union Jack’s real name would be Mohammed Faisal.TOPPING said:
If Jason Statham plays him in the inevitable film they might have to rename the character Turkish. For proper, authentic Englishness.isam said:
Well I know that, but it says "England" under his name on the picture, so he is the English character I'd saybrokenwheel said:
The Union Jack is British identity, not English. This is typical conflation of Britain and England in an attempt to erase English identity.isam said:
Union Jack is English!Cookie said:
So we have a Welsh one, an Irish one, a Scottish one and, er, a British one. Some oversight, surely?kle4 said:
These are hilarious, I love it.isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1229880663387537409?s=20isam said:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230212833205465090?s=20isam said:
I think they're seriousTheuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230243160112148480?s=20
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1230193166688694273?s=20
That’ll get the Ain’t No Black in the Union Jack John Bullers excited.0 -
Isn't it @HYUFD getting ready to put down SindyRef2 ?TOPPING said:
Isn't that @Dura_Ace?Theuniondivvie said:Ok lads, my antennae are way off on this one; is it some meta satirical take on Britishness/Englishness, or is it just wank?
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Back from my travels. Only one bye-election - in Middlesbrough. The former Tory councillor has been charged with sex offences so should be a Labour gain. But Labour are on the floor in Teesside Could be a surprise Independent win?1
