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The White House contender who was born three month before Pearl Harbour, Bernie Sanders, is back as the betting favourite for the nomination following a brief period when multi-billionaire, Mike Bloomberg, edged him out.
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Cummings is being personally sued:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sonia-khan-sacked-downing-street-dominic-cummings-unfair-dismissal-a9337311.html
Not the first time he’s had legal trouble either, there was another case in 2012.0 -
Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.0
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There is an irony in the media going into meltdown over the death that was, in part, caused by the media going into meltdown.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
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There is such a tasteless pun that could be made there.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
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"A domestic that got horribly out of control" - just said by someone on Sky Newsoxfordsimon said:
There is an irony in the media going into meltdown over the death that was, in part, caused by the media going into meltdown.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
No doubt that's how it would be described if this was a man...1 -
As they do with all things celebrity.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
The coverage of Scholfield coming out was way over the top0 -
There is an issue about the different perceptions of domestic violence depending on the sex of those involved.tlg86 said:
"A domestic that got horribly out of control" - just said by someone on Sky Newsoxfordsimon said:
There is an irony in the media going into meltdown over the death that was, in part, caused by the media going into meltdown.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
No doubt that's how it would be described if this was a man...
But we should save that for another day.
Someone has ended their life - probably in part because of media hounding
Whatever happened in the room between those two adults can now never be truly known. The outcome of the media coverage of it is now pretty clear.0 -
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Just on South Carolina.
I don't think Biden will win it.
If there's one thing we learned from New Hampshire, it's that people who say "Biden" when asked who they're voting for in the Democratic Primary are the same kind of people who - ummm... - don't bother to actually vote.
We've actually known this for some time. Because in survey after survey, lack of engagement with the Primary process and support for Biden are perfectly correlated. The less attention someone was paying, the more likely they were to vote for Biden.
Also, between now and South Carolina, we have Nevada.
It's a caucus. Sanders is clearly in the lead, but it's a weak lead with him (still) struggling on around a quarter of the vote. Steyer has been spending a fortune on TV adverts in the state, and has apparently got to 11% in the polls there, essentially flat with Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Warren. If you regard Biden's 18% in the polls as soft, then he's likely in no better position.
I don't see Biden winning Nevada. His vote is soft, and he's likely to struggle again.
The only question, to me, is will one of Warren, Klobuchar, and Buttigieg end up breaking out and getting up towards 20%?
Sanders probably has the best organisation in Nevada. Buttigieg is not far behind. Warren and Klobuchar are weaker on the ground, and the latter is relying very much on a big ad buy. Steyer is likely to struggle to break 15%, and probably doesn't have many volunteers on the ground, so it's a really open question about which way his supporters will go in the second round.
So, my forecasts? Sanders to win Nevada with (again) an unconvincing percentage. Buttigieg second (again), Warren with a decent third, and Klobuchar and Biden duking it out for fourth.
Biden and Klobuchar cling on for South Carolina.
Where Sanders wins with (again) an unconvincing percentage. Biden second. Buttigieg third.0 -
a betting post or because Sanders will be the best choice to lose?Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
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It's a London based news story with plenty of stock footage available - a cheap story to report...Big_G_NorthWales said:
As they do with all things celebrity.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
The coverage of Scholfield coming out was way over the top0 -
Celebrity is a double edged sword. Celebrities want publicity on their terms but not on the Media's, I am afraid you cannot have it both ways, but I agree there is a point when excess probing into private lives requires dealing with.eek said:
It's a London based news story with plenty of stock footage available - a cheap story to report...Big_G_NorthWales said:
As they do with all things celebrity.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
The coverage of Scholfield coming out was way over the top
id est per exemplum :anyone who wins the lottery should say nothing to anyone.2 -
The British press. Killing people since Russell Harty, and before. Oh, those wacky psychopaths and their hounding people to death. Ho. Ho. Ho.oxfordsimon said:
There is an irony in the media going into meltdown over the death that was, in part, caused by the media going into meltdown.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
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I'm not sure that making profane comments is as damaging as it used to be after all the revelations of actual physicaal harassment by celebrities - certainly Trump would look very silly if he tried to bring it up.0
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Never heard of her before what’s the fuss?squareroot2 said:
Celebrity is a double edged sword. Celebrities want publicity on their terms but not on the Media's, I am afraid you cannot have it both ways, but I agree there is a point when excess probing into private lives requires dealing with.eek said:
It's a London based news story with plenty of stock footage available - a cheap story to report...Big_G_NorthWales said:
As they do with all things celebrity.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
The coverage of Scholfield coming out was way over the top
id est per exemplum :anyone who wins the lottery should say nothing to anyone.0 -
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
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I think you need to do some googling.... just look at her wiki page...nichomar said:
Never heard of her before what’s the fuss?squareroot2 said:
Celebrity is a double edged sword. Celebrities want publicity on their terms but not on the Media's, I am afraid you cannot have it both ways, but I agree there is a point when excess probing into private lives requires dealing with.eek said:
It's a London based news story with plenty of stock footage available - a cheap story to report...Big_G_NorthWales said:
As they do with all things celebrity.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
The coverage of Scholfield coming out was way over the top
id est per exemplum :anyone who wins the lottery should say nothing to anyone.0 -
Sanders is now clearly preferred to Bloomberg head to head with Democratic primary voters, hence he is back as favourite
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1228387915807498241?s=200 -
Biden still ahead in South Carolina though
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Won’t his charisma carry him through? Although perhaps he’s just the Jeb Bush of the the Democrats.rcs1000 said:Just on South Carolina.
I don't think Biden will win it.
If there's one thing we learned from New Hampshire, it's that people who say "Biden" when asked who they're voting for in the Democratic Primary are the same kind of people who - ummm... - don't bother to actually vote.
We've actually known this for some time. Because in survey after survey, lack of engagement with the Primary process and support for Biden are perfectly correlated. The less attention someone was paying, the more likely they were to vote for Biden.
Also, between now and South Carolina, we have Nevada.
It's a caucus. Sanders is clearly in the lead, but it's a weak lead with him (still) struggling on around a quarter of the vote. Steyer has been spending a fortune on TV adverts in the state, and has apparently got to 11% in the polls there, essentially flat with Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Warren. If you regard Biden's 18% in the polls as soft, then he's likely in no better position.
I don't see Biden winning Nevada. His vote is soft, and he's likely to struggle again.
The only question, to me, is will one of Warren, Klobuchar, and Buttigieg end up breaking out and getting up towards 20%?
Sanders probably has the best organisation in Nevada. Buttigieg is not far behind. Warren and Klobuchar are weaker on the ground, and the latter is relying very much on a big ad buy. Steyer is likely to struggle to break 15%, and probably doesn't have many volunteers on the ground, so it's a really open question about which way his supporters will go in the second round.
So, my forecasts? Sanders to win Nevada with (again) an unconvincing percentage. Buttigieg second (again), Warren with a decent third, and Klobuchar and Biden duking it out for fourth.
Biden and Klobuchar cling on for South Carolina.
Where Sanders wins with (again) an unconvincing percentage. Biden second. Buttigieg third.
I recall seeing Air Force 172 (A clapped out 757) at Dublin Airport in the fag end of Obama’s second term. That was Biden on a, slightly dressy, golf visit. He was good for only that 4 years ago. Time has not improved him.0 -
Bloomberg is so OLD! Older than Biden. He was born one month after Pearl Harbour. He and Sanders are both 78. For some reason his age is not commented on.MikeSmithson said:
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
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Yes, sad news about Caroline Flack, I see David Walliams is now getting flack on Twitter for a tasteless joke at the NTAs but nobody can predict a suicide.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
2 recent suicides now though of people connected to Love Island, going on a reality show does not mean the media has to hound you after0 -
Dear Labour membersHYUFD said:
I don’t care which one of the other two you elect, but please don’t elect this person. Sanity is a requirement for politics, unless you are Dominic Cummings.
Best wishes
Y Doethur.2 -
She should be censured by the SRA for bringIng the legal profession into disrepute. As should Burgon, because.ydoethur said:
Dear Labour membersHYUFD said:
I don’t care which one of the other two you elect, but please don’t elect this person. Sanity is a requirement for politics, unless you are Dominic Cummings.
Best wishes
Y Doethur.0 -
We're battling the billionaire class, MikeMikeSmithson said:
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
cc @AlastairMeeks
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He's got heart stents similiar to Sanders too.Barnesian said:
Bloomberg is so OLD! Older than Biden. He was born one month after Pearl Harbour. He and Sanders are both 78. For some reason his age is not commented on.MikeSmithson said:
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
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I was wondering what the Strategic Rail Authority had to do with the legal profession, other than making all of them rich, but I find on Google it’s also the acronym for Solicitors’ Regulation Authority.matt said:
She should be censured by the SRA for bringIng the legal profession into disrepute. As should Burgon, because.ydoethur said:
Dear Labour membersHYUFD said:
I don’t care which one of the other two you elect, but please don’t elect this person. Sanity is a requirement for politics, unless you are Dominic Cummings.
Best wishes
Y Doethur.0 -
Buttegieg doesn't seem to be expanding all that much after his initial results - his strategy not working?HYUFD said:Biden still ahead in South Carolina though
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Explain to me why ageism is better than racism and sexism.Barnesian said:
Bloomberg is so OLD! Older than Biden. He was born one month after Pearl Harbour. He and Sanders are both 78. For some reason his age is not commented on.MikeSmithson said:
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
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It is, but not as much. The vastness of his wealth makes for a more dominant talking point.Barnesian said:
Bloomberg is so OLD! Older than Biden. He was born one month after Pearl Harbour. He and Sanders are both 78. For some reason his age is not commented on.MikeSmithson said:
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
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Sanders' life and personal and career history have only very limited parallels with Corbyn's. I enjoyed a very interesting read with his page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders0 -
I know why people say this, and many do, but as a unionist I find it worrying that how many cannot put aside party political issues for the sake of a wider issue like support for the union. Worrying too in that they do have reason for that stance, as they were and would likely continue to be punished if they did. I mean, most people accept that there are issues, as British people or Europeans or whatever, that mean its ok to work with people of other groups in support of the thing they do agree on.
https://twitter.com/paulhutcheon/status/12285902344027750401 -
She was 'frogmarched' out of Downing Street?ydoethur said:Cummings is being personally sued:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sonia-khan-sacked-downing-street-dominic-cummings-unfair-dismissal-a9337311.html
Not the first time he’s had legal trouble either, there was another case in 2012.
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Am I the only one who gets irritated by the fact that American sites seem to think we need help working out the difference between 48 and 44 is 4? I keep thinking it shows some movement but it doesn't.HYUFD said:Sanders is now clearly preferred to Bloomberg head to head with Democratic primary voters, hence he is back as favourite
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1228387915807498241?s=20
BTW, the last thread was as poor a thread as I have read on PB in many a year.3 -
Yes, although mainly because like you note it took me an embarrassing length of time to realise it wasn't showing differences from some past polling. I've gotten used to it.DavidL said:
Am I the only one who gets irritated by the fact that American sites seem to think we need help working out the difference between 48 and 44 is 4? I keep thinking it shows some movement but it doesn't.HYUFD said:Sanders is now clearly preferred to Bloomberg head to head with Democratic primary voters, hence he is back as favourite
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1228387915807498241?s=20
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Not really. Most of the folk working on TV will know her and are suffering tonight.eek said:
It's a London based news story with plenty of stock footage available - a cheap story to report...Big_G_NorthWales said:
As they do with all things celebrity.SandyRentool said:Both news channels going OTT with this apparent suicide.
The coverage of Scholfield coming out was way over the top0 -
I was exactly the same. Polling numbers that don't disclose the direction of travel are in any event seriously deficient. Quite often the direction of travel is more important than the absolute number.kle4 said:
Yes, although mainly because like you note it took me an embarrassing length of time to realise it wasn't showing differences from some past polling. I've gotten used to it.DavidL said:
Am I the only one who gets irritated by the fact that American sites seem to think we need help working out the difference between 48 and 44 is 4? I keep thinking it shows some movement but it doesn't.HYUFD said:Sanders is now clearly preferred to Bloomberg head to head with Democratic primary voters, hence he is back as favourite
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I've never watched Love Island but obviously this is an absolute tragedy. Is her death related to the show or more to do with her personal life.
Horrendous whatever the reason anyway.0 -
Personal life, probably. The Guardian now have it as their main story, I guess because they can see an anti-popular press angle.Pulpstar said:I've never watched Love Island but obviously this is an absolute tragedy. Is her death related to the show or more to do with her personal life.
Horrendous whatever the reason anyway.0 -
I think this H2H polling shows there are plenty of "moderates" who are repulsed by the idea of a billionaire simply buying democracy.DavidL said:
Am I the only one who gets irritated by the fact that American sites seem to think we need help working out the difference between 48 and 44 is 4? I keep thinking it shows some movement but it doesn't.HYUFD said:Sanders is now clearly preferred to Bloomberg head to head with Democratic primary voters, hence he is back as favourite
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1228387915807498241?s=20
BTW, the last thread was as poor a thread as I have read on PB in many a year.
Bloomberg's wealth is tbh, another level - neither Trump nor Steyer are rich enough to pursue this strategy.1 -
The depressing thing for the Democrats is that neither Buttigieg or Klobuchar are making any real progress. That the alternative to Sanders is someone who has chosen not even to take part in the states who have voted to date shows the mess that the race is in.
OTOH one of the upsides I can see of Bloomberg winning is that no one would feel the need to pay any attention to those arrogant, incompetent, bumbling and unrepresentative tossers in Iowa ever again. Runs a pretty close to second to the likelihood of Trump getting a good thrashing in my book.1 -
Can someone tell me which film it was (black and white methinks)(spy drama Third man perhaps) where a man is shot whilst escaping from his flat thro the mouth of an advertising hoarding.? I'll explain why when I have seen the image...0
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From Russia With Love.squareroot2 said:Can someone tell me which film it was (black and white methinks)(spy drama Third man perhaps) where a man is shot whilst escaping from his flat thro the mouth of an advertising hoarding.? I'll explain why when I have seen the image...
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Yes... of course.. It sort of reminds me of another mouth..Casino_Royale said:
From Russia With Love.squareroot2 said:Can someone tell me which film it was (black and white methinks)(spy drama Third man perhaps) where a man is shot whilst escaping from his flat thro the mouth of an advertising hoarding.? I'll explain why when I have seen the image...
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Following their win against Norwich this evening and as a result of Man City being thrown out of The Champions League for the next two seasons, Liverpool have now already qualified for next season's competition after playing only 26 of this season's 38 match Premier League programme ... quite remarkable!0 -
I might end up with the ouefs of a thousand geese on my face but:Pulpstar said:
I think this H2H polling shows there are plenty of "moderates" who are repulsed by the idea of a billionaire simply buying democracy.DavidL said:
Am I the only one who gets irritated by the fact that American sites seem to think we need help working out the difference between 48 and 44 is 4? I keep thinking it shows some movement but it doesn't.HYUFD said:Sanders is now clearly preferred to Bloomberg head to head with Democratic primary voters, hence he is back as favourite
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1228387915807498241?s=20
BTW, the last thread was as poor a thread as I have read on PB in many a year.
Bloomberg's wealth is tbh, another level - neither Trump nor Steyer are rich enough to pursue this strategy.
(1) He's never got above 18% in a national poll
(2) That polling is yet to be tested in any election
(3) He does poorly in head to head and democrats are naturally suspicious of him
Is it still possible he makes it?
Yes. Money does seem to talk in America (and is respected) but I'd like to see how Super Tuesday develops and its polling aftermath before I volunteer for any haircut on him.
I can't trade my way out of this one.1 -
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Even further off topic I think someone commented a couple of days ago how impressive and detailed the modeling is for Singapore in respect of the Covid-19 outbreak: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/coronavirus-covid19-singapore-cases-feb-15-12437852
It also highlights how few SE Asian countries are going to capable of anything similar.0 -
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That's enough to bring me out in a cold sweat.Pulpstar said:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1228718467794296833
#Bloombergdidn'tkillhimself
And that's nothing to do with the betting.0 -
In the unlikely event Bloomberg won the nomination, probably only at the convention, Sanders might go third party if the choice was Trump v Bloomberg-HillaryPulpstar said:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1228718467794296833
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Triumph of the entitled gerontracy?Casino_Royale said:
That's enough to bring me out in a cold sweat.Pulpstar said:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1228718467794296833
#Bloombergdidn'tkillhimself
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Positive news in the UK too:DavidL said:Even further off topic I think someone commented a couple of days ago how impressive and detailed the modeling is for Singapore in respect of the Covid-19 outbreak: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/coronavirus-covid19-singapore-cases-feb-15-12437852
It also highlights how few SE Asian countries are going to capable of anything similar.
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It’s so nice and reassuring to know that the Democrats might propose to take on a nutter like Trump with somebody who proposed using nukes against Iran.Pulpstar said:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1228718467794296833
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#FuckOffBloombergPulpstar said:0 -
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Trump would be in seventh heaven running against a Bloomberg-Clinton ticket.5
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They might win the league at Goodison Park on March 16th. When's the earliest the top division has been won?peter_from_putney said:Off Topic -
Following their win against Norwich this evening and as a result of Man City being thrown out of The Champions League for the next two seasons, Liverpool have now already qualified for next season's competition after playing only 26 of this season's 38 match Premier League programme ... quite remarkable!0 -
Because everyone who is old was once young.logical_song said:
Explain to me why ageism is better than racism and sexism.Barnesian said:
Bloomberg is so OLD! Older than Biden. He was born one month after Pearl Harbour. He and Sanders are both 78. For some reason his age is not commented on.MikeSmithson said:
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
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It's a political irrelevancy until the summer, but those are dangerous numbers for the LD's. Layla Moran could help revive them in the cities.HYUFD said:0 -
If Biden can match the results of the recent polls with him 2nd in Nevada and winning South Carolina, he'll be back in the mix.1
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I think I would have needed a change of trousers:
https://twitter.com/AeronewsGlobal/status/1228716036117221376?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1228716036117221376&ref_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-515140562 -
LD members poll shows Davey beating Moran 2 to 1.WhisperingOracle said:
It's a political irrelevancy until the summer, but those are dangerous numbers for the LD's. Layla Moran could be help revive them in the cities.HYUFD said:
It is mainly Tory Remain seats the LDs are targeting anyway where Labour are 3rd.
I agree once the Labour leadership is decided polls will be more relevant
https://yougov.co.uk/(popup:search/Lib dem leadership)0 -
The most damaging story about him this week! It probably isn't true though.Pulpstar said:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1228718467794296833
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And why would she?WhisperingOracle said:
Is he doing a Blair / Brown and promising to only do 2 years ?0 -
He's annoying me. I dismissed him as a vanity candidate with a deep purse. I am now feeling very stupid. Bad Bloomberg.WhisperingOracle said:
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There’s something wrong with this video. All I can see in the pilot’s cockpit is a huge pair of balls.DavidL said:I think I would have needed a change of trousers:
https://twitter.com/AeronewsGlobal/status/1228716036117221376?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1228716036117221376&ref_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-51514056
Seriously, just - wow...2 -
So was Donald Trump.viewcode said:
He's annoying me. I dismissed him as a vanity candidate with a deep purse. I am now feeling very stupid. Bad Bloomberg.WhisperingOracle said:0 -
Is this a "leak" from a rival campaign?viewcode said:
He's annoying me. I dismissed him as a vanity candidate with a deep purse. I am now feeling very stupid. Bad Bloomberg.WhisperingOracle said:1 -
That's seriously impressive flying.ydoethur said:
There’s something wrong with this video. All I can see in the pilot’s cockpit is a huge pair of balls.DavidL said:I think I would have needed a change of trousers:
https://twitter.com/AeronewsGlobal/status/1228716036117221376?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1228716036117221376&ref_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-51514056
Seriously, just - wow...0 -
What the hell could Hillary bring to the ticket other than baggage? Her amazing campaigning nous? Her wit? I don't see any upside at all.1
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Bernie pranked
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He is a vanity candidate, Democratic voters will vote for Sanders over Bloomberg, in my view Bloomberg only gets to the general election if he goes Independent.viewcode said:
He's annoying me. I dismissed him as a vanity candidate with a deep purse. I am now feeling very stupid. Bad Bloomberg.WhisperingOracle said:
Democrats are not going to vote for a Bloomberg -Hillary ticket, because Hillary 2016 'was not elitist enough' they now need to add an ex Republican billionaire to a Hillary ticket is not a message to convince Democratic voters0 -
What's that loud cackling noise I can hear coming out of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?Pulpstar said:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1228718467794296833
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Err...I have probably done that. Over 45 years.rottenborough said:0 -
YA THINK???!!!ydoethur said:
So was Donald Trump.viewcode said:
He's annoying me. I dismissed him as a vanity candidate with a deep purse. I am now feeling very stupid. Bad Bloomberg.WhisperingOracle said:
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More Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump. It was only the fact of the crappy Electoral College system that saved Trump.DavidL said:What the hell could Hillary bring to the ticket other than baggage? Her amazing campaigning nous? Her wit? I don't see any upside at all.
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That’s amazing. He did EngLit at Cambridge and can actually read?rottenborough said:
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I simply see the Washington Post article as simply Jeff Bezos vs Michael Bloomberg.0
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No, one candidate understood the rules of the game and one didn't.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump. It was only the fact of the crappy Electoral College system that saved Trump.DavidL said:What the hell could Hillary bring to the ticket other than baggage? Her amazing campaigning nous? Her wit? I don't see any upside at all.
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Labour surge!!HYUFD said:0 -
Not according to my 100% anecdotal sources.HYUFD said:
He is a vanity candidate, Democratic voters will vote for Sanders over Bloomberg, in my view Bloomberg only gets to the general election if he goes Independent.viewcode said:
He's annoying me. I dismissed him as a vanity candidate with a deep purse. I am now feeling very stupid. Bad Bloomberg.WhisperingOracle said:
Democrats are not going to vote for a Bloomberg -Hillary ticket, because Hillary 2016 'was not elitist enough' they now need to add an ex Republican billionaire to a Hillary ticket is not a message to convince Democratic voters
Vote Sanders get Trump.0 -
The Electoral College system is crappy, end of.DavidL said:
No, one candidate understood the rules of the game and one didn't.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump. It was only the fact of the crappy Electoral College system that saved Trump.DavidL said:What the hell could Hillary bring to the ticket other than baggage? Her amazing campaigning nous? Her wit? I don't see any upside at all.
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Or LibDems crashing and burning?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Labour surge!!HYUFD said:0 -
Likely personal life, but in a way celebrity related. I wouldn't blame the media for reporting negative things about her, but media types probably do need to have a huge think about the support structures there for celebs whose lives go wrong in whatever way as the fallout from losing your livelihood and reputation in public is obviously brutal and compounded by the fact there's no hiding from it with social media nowadays.tlg86 said:
Personal life, probably. The Guardian now have it as their main story, I guess because they can see an anti-popular press angle.Pulpstar said:I've never watched Love Island but obviously this is an absolute tragedy. Is her death related to the show or more to do with her personal life.
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Some say one can be too orange to be President. I would agree.eadric said:
Because you really CAN be too young or old for a job like president; you cannot be too black, white, male or female.logical_song said:
Explain to me why ageism is better than racism and sexism.Barnesian said:
Bloomberg is so OLD! Older than Biden. He was born one month after Pearl Harbour. He and Sanders are both 78. For some reason his age is not commented on.MikeSmithson said:
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
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It's kind of a four-way battle of the billionaires already.Pulpstar said:
Wait till the 2032 election is Jeff Bezos vs Elon Musk.speedy2 said:I simply see the Washington Post article as simply Jeff Bezos vs Michael Bloomberg.
Steyer vs Bloomberg vs Bezos vs Trump
But it's still a world of two kinds of people, those with loaded guns and those who dig, but which of them will dig ?0 -
Of course, a week before the Primary in New Hampshire, Biden was doing quite well in the polls there:HYUFD said:Biden still ahead in South Carolina though
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1228418357059301376?s=20
https://www.anselm.edu/sites/default/files/Documents/NHIOP/Polls/Democratic Voter Survey Jan-Feb 2020.pdf
https://polsci.umass.edu/sites/default/files/ToplinesFeb2020-REVISED.pdf
https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/new-hampshire/2020/2-3-2020_final_nh_tracking_marginals.pdf
And in both Iowa and New Hampshire, Biden got meaningfully lower vote shares than the polls indicated.
I think this comes down to two factors:
Firstly, Biden has a less good machine for getting voters out. Ground game matters in low turnout elections.
Secondly, Biden supporters are less politically engaged. There's almost a perfect correlation between "not much answers" to "how much attention are you paying to the Democratic primary?" and Biden support.
That's a big problem for Biden. It suggests that the more people focus on who to vote for in the Primaries, the less likely they are to vote for Biden.0 -
However, you can also be accused of being mentally or physically unfit, or too inexperienced or unwise, both on grounds of age, when you aren't.eadric said:
Because you really CAN be too young or old for a job like president; you cannot be too black, white, male or female.logical_song said:
Explain to me why ageism is better than racism and sexism.Barnesian said:
Bloomberg is so OLD! Older than Biden. He was born one month after Pearl Harbour. He and Sanders are both 78. For some reason his age is not commented on.MikeSmithson said:
Perhaps you can explain. I'm on at 9.Pulpstar said:#FUCKOFFBLOOMBERG
So you're half right, putting presidential or prime ministerial ageism in a unique category between prejudice and common sense, at times including both.
At the same time, most senior jobs aren't open to the very young or very old in the first place, meaning that age discrimination in the large zone in between is likely to be closer to prejudice.0
