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Last time we looked at the new Conservative intake in aggregate. This time we’re picking out a few who look set to make an impact, some for the right reasons and some for the wrong reasons. Many new MPs have scrubbed their social media squeaky clean. This might well be smart when looking to get elected. It is going to make it harder for them to stand out from the crowd. As Oscar Wilde said, the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
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Good post, and great to see Aaron in there.
Amongst over 100 new Tory MPs it’s a bit of a thin list though, isn’t it?0 -
I don't think it's either accurate or useful to describe to describe the European Union as colonial. It is a membership organisation and a consortium of countries. Countries are free to join on meeting the criteria of membership and being accepted by the other members and free to leave, as we are seeing. Such an organisation will use its leverage to benefit its members. It aims to maximise the value of membership and deny those benefits to non-members. No different, say, from a trade union.ralphmalph said:
You have not understood that the world has moved on from these colonial tactics for doing what the so called big boy says. The EU standing in the world is close to zero because of these tactics, it has annoyed Turkey so much that they are turning to Putin, The Balkans will be next, the Swiss are just about to vote no again to FoM and they have not learned their lesson and are so trying the same with the UK.FF43 said:There was a massive contradiction behind Brexit. A close working relationship with our neighbours, as a non-member, means doing what the EU tells us with no say. People voted Leave to "take control", but this would result in the UK being less in control than ever. Unlike May, Johnson doesn't try to square the circle. He has resolved Brexit in favour of not having a working relationship with the EU and our neighbours. It wasn't what I was expecting and it may not be sustainable, in which case we will need to decide on active participation or doing what we are told.
Trump is doing the same.
Who is winning China by offering, maybe in words only win-win joint co-operation deals.
The EU is being incredibly dumb forcing the UK away from a friendly joint cooperation deal.
The EU has no good solution for a country that wants a close relationship without the obligations of membership, which might also be in the interests of of its members at some level. Largely it's the nature of the beast. The consortium runs a system. If non-members want access to the system it will be under consortium rules.
The Johnson government has decided it can do without access. It is very concerned however that people should not understand the implications of its decision.1 -
Grrr, I'm so jealous. My book is a pretty much unmitigated disaster, weighed down by bets I made two or three years ago on people who now aren't in the running or even in the Labour Party, compounded by a major error laying Keir Starmer a few months ago on the basis that he was too sensible and too male to be chosen by the current party. I am modestly green on RLB and Nandy but not by enough to compensate for the Starmer-shaped hole in my book.Stocky said:
So if Survation are reading this, a few more polls showing Starmer losing would be much appreciated.0 -
I'm all green on the Labour party leadership market. Lisa Nandy would be my star win.1
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I'm all red apart from Lisa Nandy. This was based on bets place three to four years ago.AlastairMeeks said:I'm all green on the Labour party leadership market. Lisa Nandy would be my star win.
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The one thing that might get me back to all-green is the ridiculously short price that RLB has collapsed to off the back of that Labour List poll.0
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Danny Kruger is interesting . Prisoner support charities aren't a standard Tory party interest.0
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subset of a subset, no?Casino_Royale said:Good post, and great to see Aaron in there.
Amongst over 100 new Tory MPs it’s a bit of a thin list though, isn’t it?
Of the relative outsiders, we’re going to be keeping an eye on the following:
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And it's official, after 26 years NAFTA no longer exists at least in name:
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Trudy Harrison is one MP I would also keep an eye on.
Elected in 2017 so not a new MP but has just become Boris’s PPS. That will give her a useful insight into and connections with the Parliamentary Party. An MP for a Northern constituency - Copeland (with roots in it not parachuted in) - who overturned a Labour majority in a by-election and has since increased it at the subsequent two General Elections. Her previous work has been in community regeneration which may well be useful given the Tories’ stated focus on this.1 -
To pick up on a point @tlg86 made earlier on, Natalie Elphicke is at least as qualified as her husband to be an MP.0
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err... what qualifications do you need to be an MP.. perhaps they SHOULD have to pass an exam.....AlastairMeeks said:To pick up on a point @tlg86 made earlier on, Natalie Elphicke is at least as qualified as her husband to be an MP.
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Bath LD Wera Hobhouse is threatening to stand as Leader of Lib Dems.
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I'm all in favour of that. MPs are very keen to impose minimum standards on others but remarkably reluctant to consider any for themselves.squareroot2 said:
err... what qualifications do you need to be an MP.. perhaps they SHOULD have to pass an exam.....AlastairMeeks said:To pick up on a point @tlg86 made earlier on, Natalie Elphicke is at least as qualified as her husband to be an MP.
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All green except Starmer. Some of my bets from 2 or 3 years ago seem hilarious now e.g. Ed Balls.MikeSmithson said:
I'm all red apart from Lisa Nandy. This was based on bets place three to four years ago.AlastairMeeks said:I'm all green on the Labour party leadership market. Lisa Nandy would be my star win.
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In a classic case of an iffy bet which might win, I've got an old one from 2018 on the Next Labour Leader being Male (6/4). Not awful odds at the time, but given the pressure Labour have found for a female leader it looks like I'm rather lucky Starmer is around.0
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Fascinating. Politics is a people business after all. Gareth Davies is the one that catches my eye. The Cons are underweight on economics so he should be able to shine simply by being himself. Must not shine too much, though, or they will come down on him like a ton of bricks.0
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Perhaps I misread it.BannedinnParis said:
subset of a subset, no?Casino_Royale said:Good post, and great to see Aaron in there.
Amongst over 100 new Tory MPs it’s a bit of a thin list though, isn’t it?
Of the relative outsiders, we’re going to be keeping an eye on the following:0 -
https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.0 -
Still, they did manage to get a picture of her smiling, which is no mean feat.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.0 -
Why don't all those still with a seat stand?dr_spyn said:Bath LD Wera Hobhouse is threatening to stand as Leader of Lib Dems.
https://twitter.com/itvwestcountry/status/1217854025145749504
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Probably taken just after she had been reminded that Blair only won three elections.Richard_Nabavi said:
Still, they did manage to get a picture of her smiling, which is no mean feat.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.0 -
Thanks for that, i`ve had a nibble at 54/1.dr_spyn said:Bath LD Wera Hobhouse is threatening to stand as Leader of Lib Dems.
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If shes the only one who will return power to the people etc, what will they do if another wins? That isn't a small doctrinal disagreement its saying all the others dont believe in a fundamental point.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.0 -
I am all green on the 5 for Labour leader.
Best is 250 Thornberry. Worst is 133 RLB.
Solid. Unspectacular. A real Starmer of a book.0 -
A nibble on Hobhouse, sounds like having a biscuit.Stocky said:
Thanks for that, i`ve had a nibble at 54/1.dr_spyn said:Bath LD Wera Hobhouse is threatening to stand as Leader of Lib Dems.
https://twitter.com/itvwestcountry/status/12178540251457495040 -
Have we missed a trick here? Five new MPs had their photos in the manifesto.
Luke Evans, Bosworth
Darren Henry, Broxtowe
Neil Hudson, Penrith and The Border
Jonathan Gullis, Stoke-on-Trent North
James Davies, Vale of Clwyd
I'd keep an eye on Darren Henry, who was an RAF Squadron Leader and Logistics Officer. I'm assuming Logistics means something more than holding the key to the Quartermaster's stores. He's used to running things and getting on with people (though maybe not having to persuade them).
Looking at their pre-MP jobs, that's two doctors, a vet, a teacher and the RAF chap who happens to be Black. Maybe that is another reason they were chosen.0 -
What test would you require them to pass, as a matter of interest?AlastairMeeks said:
I'm all in favour of that. MPs are very keen to impose minimum standards on others but remarkably reluctant to consider any for themselves.squareroot2 said:
err... what qualifications do you need to be an MP.. perhaps they SHOULD have to pass an exam.....AlastairMeeks said:To pick up on a point @tlg86 made earlier on, Natalie Elphicke is at least as qualified as her husband to be an MP.
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Instead of a ballot they could decide it by a game of musical chairs.rottenborough said:
Why don't all those still with a seat stand?dr_spyn said:Bath LD Wera Hobhouse is threatening to stand as Leader of Lib Dems.
https://twitter.com/itvwestcountry/status/12178540251457495040 -
1) Do you think pineapple is an acceptable topping on a pizza?Cyclefree said:
What test would you require them to pass, as a matter of interest?AlastairMeeks said:
I'm all in favour of that. MPs are very keen to impose minimum standards on others but remarkably reluctant to consider any for themselves.squareroot2 said:
err... what qualifications do you need to be an MP.. perhaps they SHOULD have to pass an exam.....AlastairMeeks said:To pick up on a point @tlg86 made earlier on, Natalie Elphicke is at least as qualified as her husband to be an MP.
2) Is Die Hard a Christmas film?
If their answers are No, then they are fit to be MPs.0 -
Darren Henry did lose out in selection for the 2020 pcc elections, interestingly. Hes probably happy about that now.DecrepiterJohnL said:Have we missed a trick here? Five new MPs had their photos in the manifesto.
Luke Evans, Bosworth
Darren Henry, Broxtowe
Neil Hudson, Penrith and The Border
Jonathan Gullis, Stoke-on-Trent North
James Davies, Vale of Clwyd
I'd keep an eye on Darren Henry, who was an RAF Squadron Leader and Logistics Officer. I'm assuming Logistics means something more than holding the key to the Quartermaster's stores. He's used to running things and getting on with people (though maybe not having to persuade them).
Looking at their pre-MP jobs, that's two doctors, a vet, a teacher and the RAF chap who happens to be Black. Maybe that is another reason they were chosen.0 -
So what about the new vanguard of Tories from the North East?
None of them going places?0 -
In all seriousness, the uncertainty of that point, combined with self interest in there not being standards, is presumably why there is not one.Cyclefree said:
What test would you require them to pass, as a matter of interest?AlastairMeeks said:
I'm all in favour of that. MPs are very keen to impose minimum standards on others but remarkably reluctant to consider any for themselves.squareroot2 said:
err... what qualifications do you need to be an MP.. perhaps they SHOULD have to pass an exam.....AlastairMeeks said:To pick up on a point @tlg86 made earlier on, Natalie Elphicke is at least as qualified as her husband to be an MP.
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She looks insincere and unhappy even when she does ‘smile’. The shape of her mouth doesn’t help.Richard_Nabavi said:
Still, they did manage to get a picture of her smiling, which is no mean feat.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.
Nandy really is miles better. As is Philips. Even Rayner.0 -
I think they all passed the test, of being able to say 'We need to get Brexit done!' at every opportunity.Cyclefree said:
What test would you require them to pass, as a matter of interest?AlastairMeeks said:
I'm all in favour of that. MPs are very keen to impose minimum standards on others but remarkably reluctant to consider any for themselves.squareroot2 said:
err... what qualifications do you need to be an MP.. perhaps they SHOULD have to pass an exam.....AlastairMeeks said:To pick up on a point @tlg86 made earlier on, Natalie Elphicke is at least as qualified as her husband to be an MP.
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Here’s the thing: I don’t meet anyone who’s rooting for RLB, or read about them on here or elsewhere.
They must exist, so where are they?0 -
Of course she looks insincere. She's a lawyer. She worked for Pinsent Masons. She's probably still got her company-issued Ribena suit.Casino_Royale said:
She looks insincere and unhappy even when she does ‘smile’. The shape of her mouth doesn’t help.Richard_Nabavi said:
Still, they did manage to get a picture of her smiling, which is no mean feat.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.
Nandy really is miles better. As is Philips. Even Rayner.0 -
IIRC even PB's Corbynites (BJO and Nick Palmer for example) aren't as enthusiastic for RLB as they were for Corbyn.Casino_Royale said:Here’s the thing: I don’t meet anyone who’s rooting for RLB, or read about them on here or elsewhere.
They must exist, so where are they?
I think she wasn't even John's first preference so I wonder if her support is limited to the social media loudmouths.0 -
The big Q is whether Momentum's leadership can persuade all its members to back their call for RBL.TheScreamingEagles said:
IIRC even PB's Corbynites (BJO and Nick Palmer for example) aren't as enthusiastic for RLB as they were for Corbyn.Casino_Royale said:Here’s the thing: I don’t meet anyone who’s rooting for RLB, or read about them on here or elsewhere.
They must exist, so where are they?
I think she wasn't even John's first preference so I wonder if her support is limited to the social media loudmouths.
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Yep. She was highlighted by a Daily Mail piece the other day. One to watch.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
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BJO says she is Corbyn minus the likeability (sic)!!TheScreamingEagles said:
IIRC even PB's Corbynites (BJO and Nick Palmer for example) aren't as enthusiastic for RLB as they were for Corbyn.Casino_Royale said:Here’s the thing: I don’t meet anyone who’s rooting for RLB, or read about them on here or elsewhere.
They must exist, so where are they?
I think she wasn't even John's first preference so I wonder if her support is limited to the social media loudmouths.0 -
She's certainly more agreeable to watch than most!rottenborough said:
Yep. She was highlighted by a Daily Mail piece the other day. One to watch.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
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Apols if posted, but the Momentum poll is here, with Rayner only just scraping home (because of support for Burgon, I assume):
Question 1 of 2: Should Momentum follow the NCG recommendation to endorse
Rebecca Long-Bailey as the next leader of the Labour Party?
Results: For: 4,995 (70.42%) Against: 2,098 (29.58%)
Question 2 of 2: Should Momentum follow the NCG recommendation to endorse
Angela Rayner as the next deputy leader of the Labour Party?
Results: For: 3,684 (52.15%) Against: 3,380 (47.85%)
Note the small total number - nowhere near the claimed membership, but then a number of members (2 out of 3 that I know) didn't get the question sent to them.0 -
That's genuinely strange - what's the bloody point of a leading question to your members if you cannot even manage to send it round to them all?NickPalmer said:
Note the small total number - nowhere near the claimed membership, but then a number of members (2 out of 3 that I know) didn't get the question sent to them.0 -
Harold Wilson did so much to remind the voters that there would be no return to the policies of Lloyd George, Baldwin and Ramsey Mac.
Time Long-Bailey started to look forwards not backwards, or is that too Blairite for her?0 -
Even then it only accounts for 10% of the membership apparently (I was surprised at that, but I take it as read on PB). Big John Owls is a Nandy backer. As he is clearly on the far left of the party, one only wonders if she can't win his vote, whose can she win?rottenborough said:
The big Q is whether Momentum's leadership can persuade all its members to back their call for RBL.TheScreamingEagles said:
IIRC even PB's Corbynites (BJO and Nick Palmer for example) aren't as enthusiastic for RLB as they were for Corbyn.Casino_Royale said:Here’s the thing: I don’t meet anyone who’s rooting for RLB, or read about them on here or elsewhere.
They must exist, so where are they?
I think she wasn't even John's first preference so I wonder if her support is limited to the social media loudmouths.0 -
Careful now. Wikipedia says Dehenna Davison worked in a pizza shop. Have you checked her Hawaiian position?TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
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I was prepared to overlook David Cameron's preference for Hawaiian pizzas so why not her?DecrepiterJohnL said:
Careful now. Wikipedia says Dehenna Davison worked in a pizza shop. Have you checked her Hawaiian position?TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
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If Becky can only carry 70% of Momentumites in a push poll, I would politely suggest she is probably toast.NickPalmer said:Apols if posted, but the Momentum poll is here, with Rayner only just scraping home (because of support for Burgon, I assume):
Question 1 of 2: Should Momentum follow the NCG recommendation to endorse
Rebecca Long-Bailey as the next leader of the Labour Party?
Results: For: 4,995 (70.42%) Against: 2,098 (29.58%)
Question 2 of 2: Should Momentum follow the NCG recommendation to endorse
Angela Rayner as the next deputy leader of the Labour Party?
Results: For: 3,684 (52.15%) Against: 3,380 (47.85%)
Note the small total number - nowhere near the claimed membership, but then a number of members (2 out of 3 that I know) didn't get the question sent to them.0 -
Perhaps they carefully screened members for having sound views before sending out the questionnaire.kle4 said:
That's genuinely strange - what's the bloody point of a leading question to your members if you cannot even manage to send it round to them all?NickPalmer said:
Note the small total number - nowhere near the claimed membership, but then a number of members (2 out of 3 that I know) didn't get the question sent to them.0 -
I didn't actually realise that they would be able to vote. Interesting.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Ha! Quite.Richard_Nabavi said:
Perhaps they carefully screened members for having sound views before sending out the questionnaire.kle4 said:
That's genuinely strange - what's the bloody point of a leading question to your members if you cannot even manage to send it round to them all?NickPalmer said:
Note the small total number - nowhere near the claimed membership, but then a number of members (2 out of 3 that I know) didn't get the question sent to them.
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She is pretty certainly.Richard_Nabavi said:
She's certainly more agreeable to watch than most!rottenborough said:
Yep. She was highlighted by a Daily Mail piece the other day. One to watch.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/1217834337355345930
But that trouser suit is just awful.0 -
They don't, but if they end up staying here, they may well go down the route to applying for the vote in GEs, not just locals.Anabobazina said:
I didn't actually realise that they would be able to vote. Interesting.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Apparently her husband is 35 years her senior.Cyclefree said:
She is pretty certainly.Richard_Nabavi said:
She's certainly more agreeable to watch than most!rottenborough said:
Yep. She was highlighted by a Daily Mail piece the other day. One to watch.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/1217834337355345930
But that trouser suit is just awful.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/dehenna-davison-tory-councillor-student-36441800 -
So how many members does Momentum have?
Are they really relevant in an election where hundreds of thousands can cast a ballot?
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Oh, BTW I have heard that CLP nomination ballots will be conducted using AV.
I see this as good news for the 'not RLB' candidates.0 -
Wikipedia thinks the Times thinks they separated.Anabobazina said:
Apparently her husband is 35 years her senior.Cyclefree said:
She is pretty certainly.Richard_Nabavi said:
She's certainly more agreeable to watch than most!rottenborough said:
Yep. She was highlighted by a Daily Mail piece the other day. One to watch.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/1217834337355345930
But that trouser suit is just awful.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/dehenna-davison-tory-councillor-student-36441800 -
Which would have reduced the number of letters to zero, surely. Joining Momentum is by definition an extreme view (unlike a union)Richard_Nabavi said:
Perhaps they carefully screened members for having sound views before sending out the questionnaire.kle4 said:
That's genuinely strange - what's the bloody point of a leading question to your members if you cannot even manage to send it round to them all?NickPalmer said:
Note the small total number - nowhere near the claimed membership, but then a number of members (2 out of 3 that I know) didn't get the question sent to them.
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More to the point, does she or does she not have a hyphen in her name. Sometimes she does, sometimes she doesn’t.kle4 said:
If shes the only one who will return power to the people etc, what will they do if another wins? That isn't a small doctrinal disagreement its saying all the others dont believe in a fundamental point.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.
I think we should be told!0 -
I'm tempted to suggest "cycling proficiency" - it demands some basic control and awareness of others.Richard_Nabavi said:
I think they all passed the test, of being able to say 'We need to get Brexit done!' at every opportunity.Cyclefree said:
What test would you require them to pass, as a matter of interest?AlastairMeeks said:
I'm all in favour of that. MPs are very keen to impose minimum standards on others but remarkably reluctant to consider any for themselves.squareroot2 said:
err... what qualifications do you need to be an MP.. perhaps they SHOULD have to pass an exam.....AlastairMeeks said:To pick up on a point @tlg86 made earlier on, Natalie Elphicke is at least as qualified as her husband to be an MP.
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NUM nominate Rayner. She is at 2 with Union (so 5% threshold reached). She only needs a Socialist Society now to get on the ballot paper. Not that I think she would have trouble to get 33 CLPs (she already got 2 last night)
Bakers and Allied Food Workers Union nominate Burgon
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“If you take hyphens seriously you will surely go mad.”OldKingCole said:
More to the point, does she or does she not have a hyphen in her name. Sometimes she does, sometimes she doesn’t.kle4 said:
If shes the only one who will return power to the people etc, what will they do if another wins? That isn't a small doctrinal disagreement its saying all the others dont believe in a fundamental point.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.
I think we should be told!0 -
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Presumably the Bakers nominated pie-eater Watson last time. And then he betrayed them!AndreaParma_82 said:NUM nominate Rayner. She is at 2 with Union (so 5% threshold reached). She only needs a Socialist Society now to get on the ballot paper. Not that I think she would have trouble to get 33 CLPs (she already got 2 last night)
Bakers and Allied Food Workers Union nominate Burgon
SERA (Socialist Environment and Resources Association) nominated Starmer0 -
Yes, have campaigned for James Davies in the past, he is a GP and Dementia specialist and one to watch0
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We have beenOldKingCole said:
More to the point, does she or does she not have a hyphen in her name. Sometimes she does, sometimes she doesn’t.kle4 said:
If shes the only one who will return power to the people etc, what will they do if another wins? That isn't a small doctrinal disagreement its saying all the others dont believe in a fundamental point.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1217822037831491584
Totally back to the 70s video.
She rails against the idea that factory workers were told that their kids would have new jobs in the growing service economy. It never happened apparently.
She's the daughter of a docker who grew up to be, erm, a solicitor.
I think we should be told!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rebecca-long-bailey-hyphen-labour-leadership-corbyn-keir-starmer-a9280661.html0 -
Neil Hudson's parents live in Epping and he has helped us in local elections so I know him a bit too, he was a vet and Edinburgh University lecturer before electionDecrepiterJohnL said:Have we missed a trick here? Five new MPs had their photos in the manifesto.
Luke Evans, Bosworth
Darren Henry, Broxtowe
Neil Hudson, Penrith and The Border
Jonathan Gullis, Stoke-on-Trent North
James Davies, Vale of Clwyd
I'd keep an eye on Darren Henry, who was an RAF Squadron Leader and Logistics Officer. I'm assuming Logistics means something more than holding the key to the Quartermaster's stores. He's used to running things and getting on with people (though maybe not having to persuade them).
Looking at their pre-MP jobs, that's two doctors, a vet, a teacher and the RAF chap who happens to be Black. Maybe that is another reason they were chosen.1 -
What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?1
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Aren't they the lot who say we can end the housing crisis by giving everyone a piece of land, and the money to build a house on it?Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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http://www.sera.org.ukRichard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
It is basically one of the Socialist Socialists everybody forget they exist until their nomination is needed in the leadership contest. I mean, those...https://labour.org.uk/people/societies/
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If so I fear they'll be disappointed by Sir Keir.TheScreamingEagles said:
Aren't they the lot who say we can end the housing crisis by giving everyone a piece of land, and the money to build a house on it?Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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I think they also want to charge a 100% inheritance tax on all houses.Richard_Nabavi said:
If so I fear they'll be disappointed by Sir Keir.TheScreamingEagles said:
Aren't they the lot who say we can end the housing crisis by giving everyone a piece of land, and the money to build a house on it?Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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Not a great acronym for an activist group, it hints at a kind of acceptant fatalism.Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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With all houses ultimately to become social housingTheScreamingEagles said:
I think they also want to charge a 100% inheritance tax on all houses.Richard_Nabavi said:
If so I fear they'll be disappointed by Sir Keir.TheScreamingEagles said:
Aren't they the lot who say we can end the housing crisis by giving everyone a piece of land, and the money to build a house on it?Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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She looks OK 😊TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/12178343373553459300 -
Que sera sera?IshmaelZ said:
Not a great acronym for an activist group, it hints at a kind of acceptant fatalism.Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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Bingo.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Que sera sera?IshmaelZ said:
Not a great acronym for an activist group, it hints at a kind of acceptant fatalism.Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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How about forming a Socialist Railway Cranks Society, affiliating to Labour and getting a nomination?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Que sera sera?IshmaelZ said:
Not a great acronym for an activist group, it hints at a kind of acceptant fatalism.Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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It is a bit unfortunate that Boris's new money man has the same name as the Project Fear guy.HYUFD said:0 -
Associated Railway Socialist Employees.SandyRentool said:
How about forming a Socialist Railway Cranks Society, affiliating to Labour and getting a nomination?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Que sera sera?IshmaelZ said:
Not a great acronym for an activist group, it hints at a kind of acceptant fatalism.Richard_Nabavi said:What on earth is the Socialist Environment and Resources Association? Do they have vicious feuds with other Environment and Resources Associations?
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The people who said Corbyn, Leave, Trump, Boris and the Tories couldn’t win can’t have RLB...0
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New Zealand is a wonderful pristine place that unsurprisingly produces wonderfully healthy (in every sense) livestock and food. I don't really see your point to be honest.malcolmg said:
Yes shipping goods 11,000 miles will be a great way to improve our trade , we really need those sheep and apples.Luckyguy1983 said:
I agree. I do look forward to a much closer trading relationship though. It caused genuine poverty that New Zealand has never fully recovered from when we joined the EU.SouthamObserver said:Returning to the previous thread - there is no way New Zealand will agree a union with the UK. The Kiwis like being at the end of the Earth and they know free movement means a lot more low-skilled Poms arriving. It would also mess up their arrangements with Australia. No doubt tongues were very firmly in cheeks when the suggestion was made. But for anyone who was inclined to take it seriously: don’t.
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There’s been two declarations so far as far as I’m aware.SandyRentool said:Oh, BTW I have heard that CLP nomination ballots will be conducted using AV.
I see this as good news for the 'not RLB' candidates.
Richmond Park and Bosworth.
Both went for SKS.0 -
USMCA is NAFTA plus...speedy2 said:And it's official, after 26 years NAFTA no longer exists at least in name:
https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1217853591354060802
...greater local content restrictions in autos (including a requirement that a certain portion of cars are built with labour component paid more than a certain amount)*
and
...new rules preventing discrimination against LBGT workers, that the Canadians snuck in at the last minute, even though it annoyed the hell out of a bunch of Republicans in the House
* This was not an unreasonable change. The original NAFTA was less strict that some earlier trade agreements around Rules of Origin, and some (mostly Canadian) auto parts companies were doing little more than importing parts from China, putting them in a box in Ottawa, and then sending them across the border0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXRfnIfFYFIDecrepiterJohnL said:
It is a bit unfortunate that Boris's new money man has the same name as the Project Fear guy.HYUFD said:0 -
If the Tories had you for sartorial advice, they would be truly dangerous...Cyclefree said:
She is pretty certainly.Richard_Nabavi said:
She's certainly more agreeable to watch than most!rottenborough said:
Yep. She was highlighted by a Daily Mail piece the other day. One to watch.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, here's another one to watch.
https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/1217834337355345930
But that trouser suit is just awful.0 -
Did they poll Macbeth?HYUFD said:0 -
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