The Tories are looking like a bunch of headless chickens at present. The irony is that the government's record on environmental issues isn't too bad, so Boris could have reeled off a few achievements, declared there's more to do and got off relatively unscathed. The Tories let their hatred of Jon Snow and CH4 cloud their judgement.
I agree, and since he's not been in post long he could have disavowed any bad bits of the government record and promised better in future for that.
I think people outside the leftie/middle-class/twitter bubble might be quite surprised at what most people think about "environmental issues".
Greta Thunberg is just a joke meme ("How dare you!") and Extinction Rebellion are those people who finally got what was coming to them when they got dragged off the top of that tube carriage.
As others have pointed out it wasn't a debate tonight, it was a holier-than-thou smugfest and Boris made the right decision staying out of it.
Thank goodness for that then. So glad that the vast majority of the world's scientists are simply inside the leftie/Twitter/middle class bubble...
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just saying that very few working class leave voters in the Conservatives' target constituencies have much time for the jetsetting millionaires telling them they should be taking fewer foreign holidays and using the laughable-outside-london public transport network instead of using their cars.
Sitting by a swimming pool sippin’ gin, watching the sun set over the jungle. Bob Marley blasting out. I can see hummingbirds from my bar stool.
Britain ain’t so bad. Life is sweet. Cheer up everyone.
That’s not the post of someone properly drunk. Now our old poster Seant really knew how to live hard. By now he’d be taking a monkey off Bob at dominoes and smoking a hummingbird.
Yeah, but according to SeanT's Twitter, he's in Paraguay at the moment and there, er, ain't no hummingbirds in, er, Paraguay, wait, am I doing this right.
Ninth G&T and I'm seeing fcuking hummingbirds wherever I am.
Boris has every right to pass on the debates whilst he is heading for his landslide. PB Tories claiming he really wants to do them but is busy and has every right to send surrogates, and everyone else is just ganging up on him is laughable. Boris shouldn't do debates or interviews because he is useless at them.
We know he doesn’t do detail, nor is he a ideas man, his honesty and integrity fail every test, and he can’t debate or do interviews. One wonders what qualities he actually has that match anything on the person specification for the job.
Boris has every right to pass on the debates whilst he is heading for his landslide. PB Tories claiming he really wants to do them but is busy and has every right to send surrogates, and everyone else is just ganging up on him is laughable. Boris shouldn't do debates or interviews because he is useless at them.
We know he doesn’t do detail, nor is he a ideas man, his honesty and integrity fail every test, and he can’t debate or do interviews. One wonders what qualities he actually has that match anything on the person specification for the job.
Hey, why prevaricate, why don't you call it as you see it.
Wonder if the Daily Mail might run on Corbyn’s “forced eco work to your home” policy? Objectively I think it would cost him millions of vote. Although personally as somebody who fears Corbyn it is one thing I would be utterly relaxed about as it is a policy I am sure would never be enacted in a million years.
"Evil socialists in threatening to make your house better for free shock"?
If it’s a loan it’s not free Izzit?
I assumed it was the standard model where you get a loan which is repaid with money left over from the savings generated by the energy saving measures (similar to how Green Deal was meant to work circa 2011) - so nets out as free money. I've not had time to look at the details though, is that assumption wrong?
How do you measure the “savings” from double glazing? Does the householder have to do the admin? Who pays to redecorate? How green is it to replace windows that are less efficient but might have twenty years of life left? Is there the capacity to make them? More squillions to be paid for by debt. It’s a con man’s charter. Govt sanctioned inspections and access to houses? How do you protect the vulnerable from those wishing to do harm by taking advantage? What if I don’t want any of the arse ache this involves? Especially if I’m old and I’m going to get all the grief if having it done and precious few of the benefits?
It’s posturing and bonkers.
Traditionally I think savings are measured by taking the difference between the heating bill before the work and the heating bill after, assuming constant energy prices and maintaining the same temperature.
It's a fair question about the lifespan of less efficient windows. I looked at it when we insulated our house 5 years ago and i think it's a pretty quick net benefit taking into account manufacture and fitting, but can't quote figures.
In terms of getting old and missing out on benefits, it *should* increase value of your house I guess, so ignoring frivolities like environmental benefits for subsequent generations there's a financial gain.
Well I can give some insight into what happens now. First you have prove your property EPC rating and then they work out what gain the will be. If the gain is not enough you get nothing. If it's massive you get the maximum which I think is about 80% of the cost. But a lot depends on what system you choose and how efficient it is.
As for the policy no one will be forced into anything. Bloody idiot.
So next week we get Prince Andrews accuser giving an interview on Monday. Will dominate the news cycle for the next 3-4 days so little chance of any significant GE-based story knocking it off the headlines.
Wouldn’t expect much change from this weekends polls for the final weekend polling on that basis. Will be very interesting to see what they say.
I think if we read a story about another country where a national political leader threatened to pull a broadcaster’s licence because he didn’t like their coverage, we know what our reaction would be.
"Sky News was forced to cancel a leaders’ debate on Thursday after Mr Corbyn refused to sign up to the programme, and a seven-way debate between party leaders on the BBC on Friday night will feature Rebecca Long-Bailey, the shadow business secretary, in Mr Corbyn’s place."
AHAHAHAHAHAHA You were saying about leaders sending substitutes to leaders debates? See whist grown up broadcasters do? They accept a substitute or they cancel.
Yet the yebbutthatsdifferents begin.
Corbyn pulled out because Brave Sir Boris had already pulled out.
I think if we read a story about another country where a national political leader threatened to pull a broadcaster’s licence because he didn’t like their coverage, we know what our reaction would be.
"Sky News was forced to cancel a leaders’ debate on Thursday after Mr Corbyn refused to sign up to the programme, and a seven-way debate between party leaders on the BBC on Friday night will feature Rebecca Long-Bailey, the shadow business secretary, in Mr Corbyn’s place."
AHAHAHAHAHAHA You were saying about leaders sending substitutes to leaders debates? See whist grown up broadcasters do? They accept a substitute or they cancel.
Yet the yebbutthatsdifferents begin.
Corbyn pulled out because Brave Sir Boris had already pulled out.
Boris has every right to pass on the debates whilst he is heading for his landslide. PB Tories claiming he really wants to do them but is busy and has every right to send surrogates, and everyone else is just ganging up on him is laughable. Boris shouldn't do debates or interviews because he is useless at them.
We know he doesn’t do detail, nor is he a ideas man, his honesty and integrity fail every test, and he can’t debate or do interviews. One wonders what qualities he actually has that match anything on the person specification for the job.
So next week we get Prince Andrews accuser giving an interview on Monday. Will dominate the news cycle for the next 3-4 days so little chance of any significant GE-based story knocking it off the headlines.
Wouldn’t expect much change from this weekends polls for the final weekend polling on that basis. Will be very interesting to see what they say.
And Trump on the 6th December which will be interesting
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
Wonder if the Daily Mail might run on Corbyn’s “forced eco work to your home” policy? Objectively I think it would cost him millions of vote. Although personally as somebody who fears Corbyn it is one thing I would be utterly relaxed about as it is a policy I am sure would never be enacted in a million years.
"Evil socialists in threatening to make your house better for free shock"?
Govt dicking about with my home, enforcing entry into it by people I don’t know and don’t want, to impose a loan I don’t want, to then set up admin I have to deal with to monitor “savings”. They can fuck right off.
More likely would be the introduction of new building regs mandating zero carbon footprint for all new buildings, and a stiff carbon tax to make it worth your while to sort out your home yourself. With the offer of a loan, perhaps. Or some new council tax bands graded by energy efficiency...
I reserved a place for Boris on my pub quiz tonight. But he never turned up. The bastard. Must have been afraid we would rip the piss out of him about his lack of knowledge on 80s music..... Why the fuck should Boris dance to Channel 4 News' tune, any more than he should turn up for my quiz team? He has a schedule to run and being in the West Country then Wales has been set up in the diary. Trying to make capital out of a declined invite (declined because Boris had other stuff already scheduled) is pretty thin gruel from Channel 4. I hope every constituency party invite Jon Snow to answer them about it - then writes and tells him he is a complete and utter c*** when he doesn't turn up....
Of course he’s entitled to decline. Just as C4 are entitled to turn down a surrogate, and we are entitled to draw out conclusions about how much of a shit he gives about climate change.
Enjoy the volte face from those, just moments ago, railing against Boris for not attending. Life bowls beamers at you in this game!
The thing is, Boris has given him the "out". Corbyn agreed to do the Andrew Neill ones because Boris was doing it too. Then Boris pulled out. So Corbyn can "I would do it if the PM did for balance, but unfortunately he lied the time and I cannot trust him" IMHO, if Corbyn's policies were not such a mess, he could do interview after interview and empty-chair Boris every time
Wrong. Corbyn just assumed that Johnson was doing a Neil interview because he was too stupid and lazy to ask the question.
Wonder if the Daily Mail might run on Corbyn’s “forced eco work to your home” policy? Objectively I think it would cost him millions of vote. Although personally as somebody who fears Corbyn it is one thing I would be utterly relaxed about as it is a policy I am sure would never be enacted in a million years.
"Evil socialists in threatening to make your house better for free shock"?
Govt dicking about with my home, enforcing entry into it by people I don’t know and don’t want, to impose a loan I don’t want, to then set up admin I have to deal with to monitor “savings”. They can fuck right off.
More likely would be the introduction of new building regs mandating zero carbon footprint for all new buildings, and a stiff carbon tax to make it worth your while to sort out your home yourself. With the offer of a loan, perhaps. Or some new council tax bands graded by energy efficiency...
And after the HIP debacle from Brown which was as popular as super Gonorrhoea - you think this will go down well?
So next week we get Prince Andrews accuser giving an interview on Monday. Will dominate the news cycle for the next 3-4 days so little chance of any significant GE-based story knocking it off the headlines.
Wouldn’t expect much change from this weekends polls for the final weekend polling on that basis. Will be very interesting to see what they say.
And Trump on the 6th December which will be interesting
I find it very difficult to believe that the SWTrains strikes will have no impact on voting, especially in affected areas. They are literally on strike every day from 1st-11th December. It’s bound to bring both rail nationalisation and industrial relations policy flying to the top of the the agenda. Labour would love the former, in principle, but probably not in these circumstances. And I can’t see how the latter will help them, unless Cons really go over the top in response.
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs.... Must assume their internal polling from that Andrew Neil grilling has scared them shitless. Also NOTE that Long-Drop is the annointed stand in.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
Is Johnson still too afraid to be interviewed by Andrew Neil? How can this fat lazy coward think he can be trusted run the country if he can't go head to head with a journalist? He's just afraid of being found out for the over privileged, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Pathetic.
And Trump on the 6th December which will be interesting
Trump's visit needs very careful handling and i'm hoping it will be impressed on him that there is very little he can say that will be helpful to the Tories.
Is Johnson still too afraid to be interviewed by Andrew Neil? How can this fat lazy coward think he can be trusted run the country if he can't go head to head with a journalist? He's just afraid of being found out for the over privileged, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Pathetic.
Is Johnson still too afraid to be interviewed by Andrew Neil? How can this fat lazy coward think he can be trusted run the country if he can't go head to head with a journalist? He's just afraid of being found out for the over privileged, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Pathetic.
Who's on course for the biggest Conservative majority since 1987...
And Trump on the 6th December which will be interesting
Trump's visit needs very careful handling and i'm hoping it will be impressed on him that there is very little he can say that will be helpful to the Tories.
But many things that would be hugely damaging.
I suspect we will get an NHS is not up for discussion from him. He may ramble on about how awful Corbyn is though, which is probably a net plus for Labour.
Wonder if the Daily Mail might run on Corbyn’s “forced eco work to your home” policy? Objectively I think it would cost him millions of vote. Although personally as somebody who fears Corbyn it is one thing I would be utterly relaxed about as it is a policy I am sure would never be enacted in a million years.
"Evil socialists in threatening to make your house better for free shock"?
Govt dicking about with my home, enforcing entry into it by people I don’t know and don’t want, to impose a loan I don’t want, to then set up admin I have to deal with to monitor “savings”. They can fuck right off.
More likely would be the introduction of new building regs mandating zero carbon footprint for all new buildings, and a stiff carbon tax to make it worth your while to sort out your home yourself. With the offer of a loan, perhaps. Or some new council tax bands graded by energy efficiency...
And after the HIP debacle from Brown which was as popular as super Gonorrhoea - you think this will go down well?
HIPs were Coopers disaster. I was involved in a lot of meetings with the DCLG trying to make them see sense but stupid does not start to cover their deafness
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
Nah, he has to make model buses with primary schoolchildren first. Hd likes to stick to his intellectual peers.
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs.... Must assume their internal polling from that Andrew Neil grilling has scared them shitless. Also NOTE that Long-Drop is the annointed stand in.
You are trying to spin it Corbyn is the chicken, not Boris? With so much respect for you As a straight talker I put that post down as an aberration.
Now to business. Yesterday’s poll had Libdems achieving less than nowt in the west and southwest, but as our man on the spot did it really ring true to you? Or you expect a couple of losses in the tight races, maybe st ives, Wells, Cheltenham?
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs.... Must assume their internal polling from that Andrew Neil grilling has scared them shitless.
Doesn’t appear to be the only leader who’s scared shitless.
And Trump on the 6th December which will be interesting
Trump's visit needs very careful handling and i'm hoping it will be impressed on him that there is very little he can say that will be helpful to the Tories.
No point. Trump will do his own thing. He will believe he is popular and will want to say he had a role in a Tory victory.
Wonder if the Daily Mail might run on Corbyn’s “forced eco work to your home” policy? Objectively I think it would cost him millions of vote. Although personally as somebody who fears Corbyn it is one thing I would be utterly relaxed about as it is a policy I am sure would never be enacted in a million years.
"Evil socialists in threatening to make your house better for free shock"?
Govt dicking about with my home, enforcing entry into it by people I don’t know and don’t want, to impose a loan I don’t want, to then set up admin I have to deal with to monitor “savings”. They can fuck right off.
More likely would be the introduction of new building regs mandating zero carbon footprint for all new buildings, and a stiff carbon tax to make it worth your while to sort out your home yourself. With the offer of a loan, perhaps. Or some new council tax bands graded by energy efficiency...
And after the HIP debacle from Brown which was as popular as super Gonorrhoea - you think this will go down well?
HIPs were Coopers disaster. I was involved in a lot of meetings with the DCLG trying to make them see sense but stupid does not start to cover their deafness
And these "plans" are HIPS turned up to eleven. I'm sure millions of homeowners across the land can't wait for government inspectors to knock on the door and tell them they need to take out a "loan" to lag their loft. Because Corbyn says so.
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs....
Corbyn turned up to the debate tonight, unlike your hero
Jeremy Hunt wouldn't have dodged the Neil interview or the debate.
You picked the wrong guy, Tories.
Night all.
Indeed. Whatever you say about Jeremy Hunt, he's not a mendacious disingenuous racist cowardly buffoon.
How in the name of hell, has it come to this?
And Labour elected a Marxist terrorist bootlicker who has done diddly squat in terms of the institutional racism rampant in his party. There's no accounting for taste.
XR were planning 12 days of action from Dec 1st. Might just be the green resting actors trying to weave their way round Trafalgar Square.
Trump visit, any endorsement of Government would be unwise, but can't be trusted to stay quiet. Has Owen Jones called for emergency protests, wouldn't be good if things kicked off in central London or elsewhere.
And Trump on the 6th December which will be interesting
Trump's visit needs very careful handling and i'm hoping it will be impressed on him that there is very little he can say that will be helpful to the Tories.
But many things that would be hugely damaging.
I suspect we will get an NHS is not up for discussion from him. He may ramble on about how awful Corbyn is though, which is probably a net plus for Labour.
Oh and the photo opps. Thommo wouldn’t even let HY put Trump in same sentence as Boris last night, but the two pals standing together like laurel and hardy will be all over the papers next week
Is Johnson still too afraid to be interviewed by Andrew Neil? How can this fat lazy coward think he can be trusted run the country if he can't go head to head with a journalist? He's just afraid of being found out for the over privileged, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Pathetic.
Who's on course for the biggest Conservative majority since 1987...
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs....
Corbyn turned up to the debate tonight, unlike your hero
Excellent. Did they solve climate change in their debate?
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Good for him. He would win points from my dear lady for that
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs....
Corbyn turned up to the debate tonight, unlike your hero
When you're reaching 1983 seat levels two weeks before a general election you've got very little left to lose.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
And one awfully badly behaved one that gets Pinot all over the sofa.
I think if we read a story about another country where a national political leader threatened to pull a broadcaster’s licence because he didn’t like their coverage, we know what our reaction would be.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs....
Corbyn turned up to the debate tonight, unlike your hero
Excellent. Did they solve climate change in their debate?
It wasn't on the news if they did
No but Bozos no show was and his pathetic attempt to avoid the AN interview . No 10 better start threatening the BBC now !
Is Johnson still too afraid to be interviewed by Andrew Neil? How can this fat lazy coward think he can be trusted run the country if he can't go head to head with a journalist? He's just afraid of being found out for the over privileged, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Pathetic.
Well, he observed that your guy got found out by AN for being the innumerate, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Not Boris's fault that Corbyn appeared before either he or Jo Swinson had signed up (as I reported on here yesterday). I still expect he'll do it, but Boris's team must be enjoying for now the anger that he might not have to get skewered is generating at the top of Labour...
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Question: is he well-behaved (Dilyn, not Boris)? Asking for my fiancée, who thinks he's so cute (Dilyn, not Boris).
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs....
Corbyn turned up to the debate tonight, unlike your hero
Excellent. Did they solve climate change in their debate?
It wasn't on the news if they did
No but Bozos no show was and his pathetic attempt to avoid the AN interview . No 10 better start threatening the BBC now !
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs....
Corbyn turned up to the debate tonight, unlike your hero
Excellent. Did they solve climate change in their debate?
It wasn't on the news if they did
No but Bozos no show was and his pathetic attempt to avoid the AN interview . No 10 better start threatening the BBC now !
And the type pf people who will care will be.....outraged Labour supporters.
Thanks for the spreadsheet Andy JS - I'm sure I won money one time utilising one of your sexy spreadsheets. The main point of this one seems to be that the Con Aberdeen North Candidate has been deselected though???
Is Johnson still too afraid to be interviewed by Andrew Neil? How can this fat lazy coward think he can be trusted run the country if he can't go head to head with a journalist? He's just afraid of being found out for the over privileged, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Pathetic.
Well, he observed that your guy got found out by AN for being the innumerate, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Not Boris's fault that Corbyn appeared before either he or Jo Swinson had signed up (as I reported on here yesterday). I still expect he'll do it, but Boris's team must be enjoying for now the anger that he might not have to get skewered is generating at the top of Labour...
It was observed that it is quite difficult to make Johnson not currently agreeing to be interviewed into a news story, without simultaneously mentioning/reminding how badly Corbyn did...
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Nobody gives a shit about the fucking dog.
26% of the UK adult population have a dog with an estimated population of 9.9 million pet dogs.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Oo-er, Missus!
The ghost of Humphrey Littleton walks amongst us.....
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Is Johnson still too afraid to be interviewed by Andrew Neil? How can this fat lazy coward think he can be trusted run the country if he can't go head to head with a journalist? He's just afraid of being found out for the over privileged, pig ignorant waste of space that he is. Pathetic.
You sound a little upset.
Obviously the Tory media team have played a blinder getting Corbyn minded by Lord Neil, without their man committing to same fate.
I'll give you a real life comparison. Dentists said to me, you've got a really odd looking piece of minor tooth decay, that may one day become a real issue. We can do a major extraction job, that may damage your sinuses really badly and will take a few months to recover from. Or we do nothing and check it once a year. What does the rationale person do?
Wonder if the Daily Mail might run on Corbyn’s “forced eco work to your home” policy? Objectively I think it would cost him millions of vote. Although personally as somebody who fears Corbyn it is one thing I would be utterly relaxed about as it is a policy I am sure would never be enacted in a million years.
"Evil socialists in threatening to make your house better for free shock"?
If it’s a loan it’s not free Izzit?
I assumed it was the standard model where you get a loan which is repaid with money left over from the savings generated by the energy saving measures (similar to how Green Deal was meant to work circa 2011) - so nets out as free money. I've not had time to look at the details though, is that assumption wrong?
How do you measure the “savings” from double glazing? Does the householder have to do the admin? Who pays to redecorate? How green is it to replace windows that are less efficient but might have twenty years of life left? Is there the capacity to make them? More squillions to be paid for by debt. It’s a con man’s charter. Govt sanctioned inspections and access to houses? How do you protect the vulnerable from those wishing to do harm by taking advantage? What if I don’t want any of the arse ache this involves? Especially if I’m old and I’m going to get all the grief if having it done and precious few of the benefits?
It’s posturing and bonkers.
And......It’s my fucking house. Fuck off you interfering busybodies.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Good for him. He would win points from my dear lady for that
No way is he up at that early to play in the dark!
Interesting though that whoever is running Labour's campaign has laid down that they can't have their guy skewered any more in debates. 2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums 2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs....
Corbyn turned up to the debate tonight, unlike your hero
Excellent. Did they solve climate change in their debate?
It wasn't on the news if they did
No but Bozos no show was and his pathetic attempt to avoid the AN interview . No 10 better start threatening the BBC now !
This is getting out of hand. Any chance of the Civil Contingencies Act being used to get the media back on message?
I reserved a place for Boris on my pub quiz tonight. But he never turned up. The bastard. Must have been afraid we would rip the piss out of him about his lack of knowledge on 80s music..... Why the fuck should Boris dance to Channel 4 News' tune, any more than he should turn up for my quiz team? He has a schedule to run and being in the West Country then Wales has been set up in the diary. Trying to make capital out of a declined invite (declined because Boris had other stuff already scheduled) is pretty thin gruel from Channel 4. I hope every constituency party invite Jon Snow to answer them about it - then writes and tells him he is a complete and utter c*** when he doesn't turn up....
Of course he’s entitled to decline. Just as C4 are entitled to turn down a surrogate, and we are entitled to draw out conclusions about how much of a shit he gives about climate change.
That’s the point: C4 can’t specify who attends. They have to offer the Tories equal representation
And yet you were arguing precisely the opposite for the Corbyn/Johnson debate.
If you invite all parties you can’t exclude 1.
The PM debate invited the 2 major parties not the #4.
Given the Prince Andrew story is going to get another outing on Monday, Boris should just do Andrew Neal on Sunday / Monday as the BBC are already ramping their 1hr special with Virginia Roberts.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Question: is he well-behaved (Dilyn, not Boris)? Asking for my fiancée, who thinks he's so cute (Dilyn, not Boris).
Erm...yes. As I reported yesterday, he loves shredding paper - and gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to get his teeth into. He is also, how shall we say, highly sexed. Any other dog will get his (often unwanted) attention.... Where he might have learnt that from is unknown. Tell her he is cute as a button though.
Personally I am sick of these so called debates. They have been corrupted by activists pretending to be grass roots when they are really AstroTurf. Channel 4 are a disgrace. They are transparently biased against Conservatives. John Snow has form in this regard. They have no right to insist on anyone turning up for their shows. Their hero Tony Blair never did a debate. If this proves to be the end of these rigged events so be it. Hooray.
They have been corrupted by crap lying politicians. The Donkeys have been rumbled.
Electoral edge case question. Any help much appreciated.
A friend who lives abroad has just messaged me asking a question about her vote that I confess I've never encountered before.
She lives abroad with a postal vote, but because of concerns about getting her ballot paper on time subsequently registered her mother as her proxy-by-post. The original polling papers have now arrived with said friend, but she wants to know if she can still use these, and instruct her mother not to use the proxy vote - or if she now has to go with the proxy-by-post route?
Certain Labour hold. But that silly poll yesterday had labour holding Bristol north west they are certain to lose Vox popping from Bristol north west today found everyone who would talk to camera voting for Boris because they just want brexit sorted out ASAP. Boris has promised to do this, but he really can’t deliver this promise can he?
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Good for him. He would win points from my dear lady for that
No way is he up at that early to play in the dark!
I'm kinda thinking the No. 10 gardens might just have some rather state of the art security lighting?
Certain Labour hold. But that silly poll yesterday had labour holding Bristol north west they are certain to lose Vox popping from Bristol north west today found everyone who would talk to camera voting for Boris because they just want brexit sorted out ASAP. Boris has promised to do this, but he really can’t deliver this promise can he?
No, not without seriously upsetting the ERG wing and opting for BINO.
I suppose Bozo will say that he is too busy meeting voters, and then spend the day stood in front of his bus in a warehouse with a dozen HYUFD clones forming his claque.
'Are you Tezzie in disguise?'
No.
Boris has a lovely dog.
No Carrie has a lovely dog
I quizzed Carrie yesterday on this. The dog is very much both of theirs dog - he doesn't favour one of them over the other. Although Boris is the one who gets up at 6.00am to play with it in the garden.
Nobody gives a shit about the fucking dog.
26% of the UK adult population have a dog with an estimated population of 9.9 million pet dogs.
Is this really the Tory campaign, to get disgruntled ex-Labour MPs to endorse the Tories? At the start of the campaign it was useful, now they have to combat the fact Labour are willing to bribe everybody and claim Jezza is just an honest broker as they are still going to do Brexit.
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As for the policy no one will be forced into anything. Bloody idiot.
Wouldn’t expect much change from this weekends polls for the final weekend polling on that basis. Will be very interesting to see what they say.
Boris has a lovely dog.
You picked the wrong guy, Tories.
Night all.
Or some new council tax bands graded by energy efficiency...
How in the name of hell, has it come to this?
2017 - Corbyn is in front of massive crowds in football stadiums
2019 - Corbyn has been locked under the stairs....
Must assume their internal polling from that Andrew Neil grilling has scared them shitless.
Also NOTE that Long-Drop is the annointed stand in.
But many things that would be hugely damaging.
Now to business. Yesterday’s poll had Libdems achieving less than nowt in the west and southwest, but as our man on the spot did it really ring true to you? Or you expect a couple of losses in the tight races, maybe st ives, Wells, Cheltenham?
The Tory "campaign" has been invisible.
Vote winner.
Bristol West:
Suria Aujla (Con)
Thangam Debbonaire (Lab)
Carla Denyer (Grn)
Neil Hipkiss (Brx)
And so on.
There's no accounting for taste.
Trump visit, any endorsement of Government would be unwise, but can't be trusted to stay quiet. Has Owen Jones called for emergency protests, wouldn't be good if things kicked off in central London or elsewhere.
It wasn't on the news if they did
I still expect he'll do it, but Boris's team must be enjoying for now the anger that he might not have to get skewered is generating at the top of Labour...
https://britainelects.newstatesman.com/2019/11/28/previewing-tonights-council-by-elections-28-nov/
Only one next week.
Everyone loves a doggie.
Yes it’s a leftie paper but Bozo said those words and it’s in print .
Obviously the Tory media team have played a blinder getting Corbyn minded by Lord Neil, without their man committing to same fate.
I'll give you a real life comparison. Dentists said to me, you've got a really odd looking piece of minor tooth decay, that may one day become a real issue. We can do a major extraction job, that may damage your sinuses really badly and will take a few months to recover from. Or we do nothing and check it once a year.
What does the rationale person do?
https://twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1200181552501710848?s=21
The PM debate invited the 2 major parties not the #4.
He is also, how shall we say, highly sexed. Any other dog will get his (often unwanted) attention.... Where he might have learnt that from is unknown.
Tell her he is cute as a button though.
A friend who lives abroad has just messaged me asking a question about her vote that I confess I've never encountered before.
She lives abroad with a postal vote, but because of concerns about getting her ballot paper on time subsequently registered her mother as her proxy-by-post. The original polling papers have now arrived with said friend, but she wants to know if she can still use these, and instruct her mother not to use the proxy vote - or if she now has to go with the proxy-by-post route?
Vox popping from Bristol north west today found everyone who would talk to camera voting for Boris because they just want brexit sorted out ASAP. Boris has promised to do this, but he really can’t deliver this promise can he?
I thought she was leaving soon, why is she bothered about the monarchy?
Given how piss poor the Tory campaign has been so far, doesn't look good for their majority ambitions.